Radio 3Fourteen - March 22, 2017


AltRight Territory in the Pacific Northwest


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58 minutes

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178.51218

Word Count

10,508

Sentence Count

732

Misogynist Sentences

35

Hate Speech Sentences

55


Summary

Cascadia is a group of white Americans who have had it with anti-white politics and social norms. Their goals include to promote a white consciousness in the Pacific Northwest, and to reverse the discriminatory policies enacted in opposition to whites in their own homelands. Encourage tradition by investing in traditional family values and stopping the degradation of white culture. Preventing foreign influence on white people. Stopping the continuation of non-white immigration into their communities and rebuilding their socio-cultural infrastructure.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello everyone, I'm Lana. Joining me are the founders and friends of Cascadia, the foremost
00:00:19.660 alt-right group in the Pacific Northwest. Basically, it's a quickly growing group of
00:00:24.360 white Americans who have had it with anti-white politics and social norms. Their goals include
00:00:29.800 to promote a white consciousness in the Pacific Northwest and prevent as well as reverse
00:00:34.600 the discriminatory policies enacted in opposition to whites in their own homelands. Encourage
00:00:40.800 tradition by investing in traditional family values and stopping the degradation of white
00:00:45.340 culture. Preventing foreign influence on white people. Stopping the continuation of non-white
00:00:50.740 immigration into their communities and rebuilding their socio-cultural infrastructure. We'll hear
00:00:56.220 all about Cascadia next. Welcome to the show. We have Cato, I'll say hello to you first.
00:01:02.960 Hey there.
00:01:03.760 And then also we have Jeffrey Fairwater. Hello, welcome.
00:01:07.080 Hi, how's it going?
00:01:08.160 And of course we have Heron Volk.
00:01:10.080 Howdy, thanks for having me on.
00:01:11.660 Okay, so I'm going to just open this up to all three of you guys, but who started Cascadia?
00:01:17.180 That would be me, Heron Volk, and one of our other coordinators for Seattle named Stronganon.
00:01:22.620 And we started that about a year or so ago up in Seattle, and it's just grown out of that.
00:01:30.780 Wow, cool. So what is your mission, if you can summarize it?
00:01:34.220 Well, we have a mission statement we can pull from the website really quick that summarizes it pretty well.
00:01:41.460 I have it up, actually.
00:01:43.160 Perfect, yes.
00:01:43.800 Our arc, the Cascadia mission statement, is to promote a white ethnic consciousness in the Pacific Northwest
00:01:49.220 and prevent, as well as reverse, the increasingly discriminatory policies enacted in opposition to whites in our own homelands.
00:01:56.540 Encourage traditionalism by investing in traditional family values and stopping the degradation of white culture.
00:02:02.580 Regain our sovereignty and prevent foreign influence on our people,
00:02:05.940 and stop the continuation of non-white immigration into our communities and rebuild our sociocultural infrastructure.
00:02:11.820 Sounds like a good mission. Now, how many locations do you guys have going?
00:02:16.500 Well, we're operating in, I believe, about four states now.
00:02:20.620 Our biggest presence is mostly in Oregon and Washington.
00:02:24.700 We branched into Idaho and Northern California as well, and are working on chapters in Alaska.
00:02:32.700 Oh, that's great.
00:02:33.360 Don't forget the Canadian guys, too.
00:02:35.040 Yeah, yeah.
00:02:35.720 Well, that's an entirely different country, so, yeah, we're really expanding territory there.
00:02:41.300 Well, that's great.
00:02:41.960 So, are some of these people that you've connected with that you already knew in the past,
00:02:45.880 or are they just new people that you're meeting as you go?
00:02:48.800 A lot are new people entirely.
00:02:50.980 There's quite a few that we know just through social media in general, and we realize, oh, you also live here, and that goes from there.
00:03:03.020 But a lot of people are just, they don't know a single soul in this movement, and they're reaching out to us for the first time to try to meet people in meatspace.
00:03:13.200 And they don't have any, don't have that connection to begin with.
00:03:17.700 Yeah, we heard that came from when we were just a forum group on TRS, but since we've separated from them and became our own employee functional group, it's pretty much been new people left and right.
00:03:32.900 Yeah, I always hear from people, too, that are just, they wake up to these things, and they're really starving for friends.
00:03:38.400 They feel so alone, even in these big cities, and we're always having people writing us.
00:03:42.640 Where's a meetup group, or where are people in my area?
00:03:45.060 So I think it's great that you guys are doing that.
00:03:46.540 I'd love to have, you know, a northwest group and a southeast group and a southern group.
00:03:51.240 I think we're kind of almost building networks that are kind of nations within a nation, which is kind of covert.
00:03:56.920 I like that idea.
00:03:58.440 Yeah, it's kind of a spiderweb, and it is happening.
00:04:00.760 You know, you've got to know where to look, but it is happening all over.
00:04:04.780 And we are actually helping a lot of these other groups across the nation follow our template, essentially, to be successful in their organization and recruiting efforts.
00:04:14.980 Now, tell us about your vetting process, and what are some of the concerns you have?
00:04:19.180 Initially, members usually reach out to us via email or some sort of social media, like Twitter or Facebook, something like that.
00:04:27.420 And they're giving an interview of sorts over the email.
00:04:30.740 We just ask them some general questions to make sure they're not, you know, black or Antifa or anything like that.
00:04:38.460 And once the, whichever coordinator that happens to be talking to them is convinced that the potential member is legitimate, then we set up an IRL meeting.
00:04:50.540 And the meetings usually last anywhere from two to six hours, as that makes it nearly impossible for any sort of infiltrator to just BS their way through an interview for that long.
00:05:03.160 Six hours?
00:05:03.740 Yeah, exactly.
00:05:05.200 That's smart.
00:05:05.980 And we, we usually plan out a lot of activities, like just recently over the weekend, myself, some of the other coordinators, we took a few new guys out.
00:05:15.540 And we went on some walks through some parks and played some Frisbee for, oh, I think like three or four hours at least.
00:05:22.560 And it was a ton of fun.
00:05:23.920 All of them had a really good time.
00:05:25.960 That's great.
00:05:26.540 So you guys get together to do things like hiking and probably have potlucks and all kinds of things, just building friends, right?
00:05:32.040 Yeah, building friends and just getting a feel for new guys in a social situation, seeing how they interact when they're basically in a room or a field full of nothing but fashigoys.
00:05:43.500 Yeah, that's when the, that's when the real vetting happens, because obviously we want to meet them one-on-one in a public setting to, you know, grill them basically and figure out they are who they say they are first.
00:05:55.620 But we really get to know who they are when we get to see them interact with other people.
00:05:59.320 So bringing them into these smaller group settings before they are fully cleared to, you know, go to our larger, larger pool parties is, it's been a very successful tactic.
00:06:11.160 So has it been people mostly in their 20s and 30s?
00:06:13.300 Because it seems like a very young movement that's happening in the alt-right.
00:06:17.600 I'd say mostly in our 20s and 30s are what people are.
00:06:22.080 But we do have some members that are 40s, 50s, I think even a couple that might be in their early 60s.
00:06:29.380 That's good. We need to have some elders too.
00:06:31.320 It's good to have some age diversity for experience and life experience, right?
00:06:36.680 Absolutely, yeah.
00:06:37.860 And, you know, it ranges anywhere from, you know, single men to full families that are involved in the group.
00:06:44.560 So it's really great because we want to be a family organization.
00:06:48.460 So having, you know, families be involved and have family-friendly events that really encourages the single guys to, you know, what they, gives them an example of what they're striving for.
00:06:59.380 Exactly. Exactly. That's good.
00:07:01.020 Well, I want to ask each one of you how you came to where you are politically today and a little bit about your political background.
00:07:07.780 I'm always curious to hear people's stories.
00:07:09.700 So let's start with you, Kato.
00:07:12.040 Oh, boy.
00:07:13.640 So I'm still a pretty young guy.
00:07:15.500 There's not a long story here.
00:07:17.620 Basically, I've always been a bit of a centrist.
00:07:21.940 If I was a bit older, I would have probably had a libertarian phase at some point.
00:07:25.660 But it really all started in high school.
00:07:28.100 So I'm the Seattle coordinator.
00:07:31.740 So, you know, incredibly liberal place.
00:07:33.840 And when I was going to high school, I was basically surrounded by people who all had very similar liberal views.
00:07:38.620 And I was in a debate class where all of us were supposed to get in groups and debate on different topics.
00:07:45.880 And everyone pretty much had the same opinions and everything.
00:07:50.460 So I had to start playing devil's advocate just to get an actual debate forming.
00:07:55.160 And in doing that, I started looking into different, more right wing views.
00:08:01.100 And that eventually led me to research and empathize with a lot of the views.
00:08:06.280 And then I got tired of the debates that were going on there.
00:08:09.980 And I decided I wanted to do a bit of extracurricular activities and find someone on the Internet who was incredibly far right that I could actually debate these ideals with.
00:08:20.820 And that's how I stumbled onto pole.
00:08:23.840 And from there, the rest is kind of history.
00:08:26.440 That's how it is.
00:08:28.120 Once you find pole, I hear, it changes you forever.
00:08:31.720 And that's great, too, Kato, that you don't have all that baggage.
00:08:34.860 You know, you're fresh, you're young, and you've figured this out, and you have your whole life ahead of you.
00:08:39.120 So that's always a great story.
00:08:40.860 I love hearing that.
00:08:41.780 Now, what about you, Heron Volk?
00:08:44.220 I grew up in the South.
00:08:45.880 And so I always knew a bit about HBD, you know, as far as blacks and whites go, at least.
00:08:52.180 And then when I was in the Marines, I just had way too much time on my hands to do research about whatever I wanted to.
00:08:59.240 So I started getting into, like, conspiracy theories, started off with, like, 9-11 conspiracies.
00:09:05.000 And then YouTube, the Eternal Red Filler, put me on to some holohoax videos, some holocaust conspiracy videos.
00:09:14.240 So I watched those.
00:09:15.540 I ate up about every single one I could find.
00:09:17.360 And after being convinced that the National Socialists weren't the bad guys that I had been brainwashed into thinking they were, you know, I started doing some research into right-wing politics.
00:09:31.060 And I eventually found things like the Daily Stormer, TRS, and now I'm here.
00:09:37.260 Yeah, that's great.
00:09:37.760 We also started, you know, Red Ice.
00:09:39.500 We weren't always on this page.
00:09:41.160 Most people aren't just born knowing about the holohoax, you know.
00:09:44.400 You have to go through the process.
00:09:45.940 Right. I watched a lot of your videos as well.
00:09:48.740 Yeah, exactly.
00:09:49.460 I mean, we started down the conspiracy trail and geopolitics and mind control and analyzing propaganda.
00:09:55.040 And that was one of the things that we were doing.
00:09:56.580 And then we just started noticing, what is all this anti-white garbage everywhere just, you know, slamming white people like crazy?
00:10:03.180 And then the rest is history.
00:10:04.520 Just because I think if you're actually a truth seeker, you come to this, you come to the alt-right, you realize, like, there is a war on white people, right?
00:10:12.980 Right, if you're truly open-minded like the liberals say they are.
00:10:17.300 Now, what about you, Jeffrey Fairwater?
00:10:20.100 Yeah, so I grew up in Northern California in a kind of center-lefty family.
00:10:25.540 So I was kind of brought up with a kind of a, you know, leftist lean.
00:10:31.100 So it wasn't until high school that I found pole.
00:10:35.540 And, you know, I was more of an edutarian at that time.
00:10:38.820 I never really took the doctrines or the ideology too deep or really accepted it.
00:10:46.820 I just thought, you know, these Jew jokes are pretty funny.
00:10:49.320 And, you know, I definitely questioned the Holocaust, so that set me down the right page.
00:10:52.980 It wasn't really until I joined the Navy and got a taste for, you know, the real world outside of California and, you know, dealing with race realism firsthand that it really started to sink in.
00:11:04.360 And, you know, of course, I continued to browse pole and never really branched out from there until I decided to make myself a sock Twitter account to, you know, go troll some media figures.
00:11:13.800 That's what Twitter's for.
00:11:16.540 And from there, I saw the Echo meme, the parentheses, and I started asking people, like, what is this?
00:11:22.360 Where did this come from?
00:11:23.160 And they linked me to the Merchant Minute.
00:11:25.160 And from there, of course, I found the Daily Shoa.
00:11:27.560 And from the Daily Shoa, I made my own podcast, and now I'm on the TRS network, and that's how I found Cascadia.
00:11:34.800 So that's my story in a nutshell.
00:11:37.560 Now, were you shocked at first when you saw some of those Jew jokes, or were you just, eh, not really?
00:11:42.280 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:11:42.920 No, that was definitely my reaction at first, like, because, yeah, I mean, from being exposed, like, this is my first time, it was my first time really seeing, you know, the Nazis shown in a positive light, and I was really taken aback by it.
00:12:00.280 I'm like, are these people serious?
00:12:02.040 Is this ironic?
00:12:03.160 And, like, I slowly started to realize they were serious, and it was not ironic.
00:12:06.260 And it turned me off a little bit at first, but then, like, I was drawn back to it almost magnetically out of curiosity.
00:12:12.840 And, of course, then I started actually reading their arguments and points, and I was like, well, they really do have some good arguments and points.
00:12:20.480 So, yeah.
00:12:21.200 Yeah, that's what happens.
00:12:22.040 I mean, the truth is on our side.
00:12:23.400 That's why none of them want to debate us, because we actually have the winning argument, and we can put them in a corner really fast.
00:12:28.700 And that's why, too, they have to put away these, you know, Holocaust revisionists, historical revisionists.
00:12:34.060 They have to put them in prison in Europe.
00:12:36.720 Right, right.
00:12:37.320 What are you so afraid of?
00:12:38.580 Yeah.
00:12:39.180 The truths don't even have to be that extreme or that untouchable as the Holocaust.
00:12:44.200 Like, for instance, like Representative Steve King's statements about, you know, someone else's babies recently.
00:12:51.320 You know, that's definitely a truth, but the reaction to that was just reeing in, you know, the accusations of heresy.
00:13:01.800 Yeah, he was getting called a Nazi, right?
00:13:04.480 Yeah, he was just saying.
00:13:05.360 Yeah, but that's all they have.
00:13:06.540 They can't actually refute our truths.
00:13:08.900 Well, that's good, because it actually, it doesn't mean anything anymore.
00:13:11.460 I'm sorry.
00:13:11.800 Go on.
00:13:12.260 Oh, I was actually going to say the same thing.
00:13:13.840 That's the thing, is the word Nazi is becoming so overused that they're going to need to get a new way to shut us down pretty soon.
00:13:19.880 And it's also funny, because then, you know, true Nazis can actually just hide in all of that, because it doesn't mean anything anymore.
00:13:28.500 Oh, God.
00:13:29.300 So I want to know what's happening in the Northwest.
00:13:32.580 I haven't been there in a while.
00:13:33.940 I'm from there.
00:13:35.060 Tell us about the, you know, political, social state of the Northwest area.
00:13:39.300 What's going on up there?
00:13:40.180 Because I know it's very white, of course, but it's very leftist.
00:13:43.900 So, yeah, it's very white and very leftist.
00:13:46.500 Because you have liberals from all over the U.S. coming out here in a pilgrimage of sorts, because they see, you know, the television shows and all of that showing how nice and swipple and hipster the Northwest is.
00:14:03.420 But what's really funny is a lot of these white liberals who move here, like the Pacific Northwest, for the same reasons we do, they have the swipple culture, and it's safe.
00:14:16.040 And both of those things are inherently white.
00:14:19.460 It's safe because there's no diversity here, or a very small amount of diversity.
00:14:24.000 And everything that goes along with swipple culture is just traditional white culture.
00:14:30.400 So we're hoping we can convince a lot of these people to come over to our side, because without a white majority, swipple culture will not survive.
00:14:41.180 Did anyone else want to add anything to that?
00:14:42.800 Well, in terms of the climate, so where I'm from, at least, it's, like I said, incredibly lefty.
00:14:50.300 There are a lot of socialist groups operating out of Seattle.
00:14:54.600 I mean, we, this city was basically Bernie's, one of his, like, home bases during the campaign.
00:15:01.440 With that being said, it actually makes it surprisingly easy to find dissatisfied people within the city, and there are lots of them.
00:15:10.220 I would actually say that I owe the liberal climate here to part of my red-pilling experience, just because being around so much political correctness and just paused culture really sort of drove it all home for me early on.
00:15:27.580 Yeah, you can only walk across so many rainbow crosswalks before you start to get a little triggered yourself.
00:15:34.680 Yeah, are they starting to turn on each other at all? Do you guys see that?
00:15:37.200 Well, there is one instance, I think you actually hosted the video that we recorded, of one of their own getting shot by one of their own at a rally recently.
00:15:49.260 Oh, that was your video. Nice.
00:15:51.320 Yeah, exactly. And tell us a story about that, in case people don't know what that was.
00:15:54.740 I was, well, I didn't actually see the person get shot, but I mean, what I thought it was, I haven't followed the story too much, was an Antifa actually attacked a Trump supporter.
00:16:07.520 It was an Asian Trump supporter, though, and the Trump supporter basically just reacted in self-defense, and there was a ton of different videos from a ton of different angles that show this Antifa guy assaulting the Asian man,
00:16:19.540 the Asian man backing off, and then he keeps pursuing and gets a bullet in the stomach.
00:16:24.940 Okay, I guess I misheard. I thought the Asian guy was also a leftist.
00:16:29.700 Yeah, I thought he had a tattoo that was a big Antifa tattoo also.
00:16:35.140 Oh no, that was, so that was the guy who got shot, but the shooter, I believe, I'm like 90% sure, was a Trump supporter actually.
00:16:43.120 Oh, there's a doggy back there. It's okay.
00:16:46.880 Yeah, he's on every podcast.
00:16:48.540 I said there's a dog back there. I heard a car horn, too, in the back there somewhere, too.
00:16:52.900 That might have been mine.
00:16:54.680 With that being said, though, I have noticed some interesting trends where, like, there's now a difference between white feminism and quote-unquote feminism,
00:17:05.520 and gay men are now being put in the same bag as all men when it comes to feminist arguments that all men are the devil and all that stuff.
00:17:14.720 So I have noticed that as they go deeper and deeper into their identity politics,
00:17:18.440 they're becoming more and more exclusive to the point where pretty soon any man or anyone who was formerly a man probably won't be allowed in their secret clubhouses any longer.
00:17:28.580 And I had just seen some feminists complaining on other feminists who weren't supporting these, you know, men who transitioned to women who basically cut their balls off and took some hormones
00:17:39.280 that we now have to also uphold them as women, and they get to march as women, too, and don't forget the transsexuals.
00:17:46.420 So it's just all over the place.
00:17:48.220 It's really fun to attack those fracture points, too, and inflame them.
00:17:52.200 So it's easy to do.
00:17:55.180 You just use the leftist arguments and their talking points against them, and it's so easy just to fracture them that much further.
00:18:02.400 Now, Heron Voke, you came from the South, so was there any kind of a culture shock for you when you went up to the Northwest?
00:18:08.620 Only that there are so many liberals.
00:18:10.520 I mean, in the South, everyone is conservative to some extent.
00:18:15.260 You might have your Baptist churches that are more liberal than one another, but they're at least still churches.
00:18:21.440 Up here, that doesn't lie as much.
00:18:24.040 The only churches you're going to find are things like universalist churches that have rainbow flags and Black Lives Matter hanging outside.
00:18:32.040 So I guess that was a bit of a culture shock, for sure.
00:18:35.140 Oh, don't get me started on the BLM churches.
00:18:38.700 Like every church I pass by, they have the huge Black Lives Matter banner on top.
00:18:43.380 Yeah, a lot of the churches are just, they're cucked nowadays.
00:18:46.680 Yeah, exactly.
00:18:47.320 And in the South, too, I mean, people always say, oh, they're so racist down there.
00:18:51.180 I never met a racist white person in the South, did you?
00:18:54.640 Well, I don't think anyone was, I didn't mean too many people that were openly racist, but there were a lot of people who would, you know, treat Blacks nicely.
00:19:05.180 But then once they walked away, they'd be like, oh, I hate dealing with that nigger or whatever.
00:19:11.300 You know, but I think people up here, or sorry, people up here act the same way, but they're just not quite as open about it.
00:19:21.460 Now, how many minorities are we talking about up in your guys' area, Washington, Oregon, Idaho?
00:19:27.400 I know they're also shipping in some refugees into Idaho and Montana.
00:19:32.020 So how many are we looking at over there these days?
00:19:35.920 Well, in the major city centers, it's as you'd expect in any major city.
00:19:40.400 As you get outside of those major population and urban centers, it's almost unnoticeable from what I can see.
00:19:49.460 Even out here where I am, I'm across the Puget Sound in Kitsap County Peninsula, and it's very, very white.
00:20:00.020 And it's almost just going across the water becomes very rural, very fast.
00:20:04.920 And the rural feel and attitude is much different.
00:20:09.320 But yeah, there's not much more minority population outside of, say, Seattle and Portland, from what I can tell.
00:20:16.480 Yeah, and I think I looked up the statistics a while ago.
00:20:20.080 In Washington, we only have something like 7% of our population is black.
00:20:25.640 I'd honestly wager that the Asian minority is much bigger than the black minority here.
00:20:31.480 And we also are getting a lot of Indians because, of course, the tech giants like Microsoft and Amazon love their H1B1 slave labor.
00:20:40.000 Oh, God.
00:20:41.000 Yeah, I mean, I hear from people in the IT world quite often from white guys, and they say that, yeah, exactly, it's being taken over by Indians.
00:20:48.820 Like, there's not many white guys doing those jobs anymore.
00:20:51.580 What do you guys know about that?
00:20:53.020 I mean, because Seattle is a very techie area, right?
00:20:56.380 Well, what I've heard from some of the people actually in Cascadia who work in the tech industry is that they are pretty much taking all the grunt work or what would normally be entry-level positions.
00:21:07.220 I would almost, again, I'm going by what I've heard.
00:21:11.300 I would almost say that there's a sort of caste system in a lot of these different companies where you have the Indians doing the grunt work and writing the baser levels of the code.
00:21:20.480 Then you have white guys higher up whose job it is to piece together all this code and fix any errors.
00:21:26.740 So that's pretty much how it's going.
00:21:28.860 I know it's different.
00:21:29.680 You know, the cities are different than the small towns.
00:21:31.640 I don't know how much you guys travel, but are people in the smaller towns, are they more open to our message or are they still cucked?
00:21:39.500 Are they liberals?
00:21:40.360 What are they?
00:21:41.080 And is there any hope to reach those people that are out in the countryside?
00:21:44.920 Well, they're not liberals.
00:21:45.900 I'd say there's a large contingent of libertarians for sure and your, you know, classic boomer cuck-servatives.
00:21:54.340 But there's actually, there's a huge support for Trump, at least up here in Washington, outside of Seattle, you know, King County and these super, super blue centers.
00:22:08.040 Just driving around the west side of Washington, around the Olympic mountains, all along the road on private property facing the highway are these giant, you know, homemade Trump signs, like almost every, every mile, huge, huge supporting of it.
00:22:25.300 So I'm not sure how receptive they would be to our stance, but, you know, they are definitely not the enemy.
00:22:33.240 That's for sure.
00:22:33.920 I was going to say, Heron Volk, you actually have a pretty white-pilling story about the countryside putting up some posters, didn't you?
00:22:40.560 I just remember you telling me, you put up some of our posters that in the city would get torn down within like a day somewhere out in the country in Oregon, and you drove by the same place a month later, and all of them were still up.
00:22:54.620 Oh, yeah, right.
00:22:55.340 That's down in a town close to where I live.
00:22:57.460 There's a major university there, but the university isn't quite as liberal as most.
00:23:02.580 It's more of like a farm school where people go to learn about, you know, cow farming, CAFOs, things like that.
00:23:12.260 So it's definitely much more conservative than most schools.
00:23:15.920 But anyway, we put up quite a few posters here in town, and while these posters would normally be torn down within a matter of hours or days in Seattle or Portland, they remained up for months.
00:23:30.660 And it's definitely not for lack of people seeing them because this is the main street where there is the farmer's market.
00:23:38.220 So they're definitely getting views.
00:23:39.780 I think people just don't care that much down here.
00:23:43.260 I mean, they don't have anything to be scared of because it's totally white.
00:23:48.860 Yeah, it's funny, too, that it didn't make the news because nowadays you just have to put up one poster and it makes the news everywhere.
00:23:55.420 Anytime Nathan and Identity Europa put up some what we think is a harmless flyer, it always makes the news.
00:24:02.920 Well, that's the funny thing about the Pacific Northwest is that, you know, all of the citizens in these major cities are liberal.
00:24:09.840 The people in the town councils, the police, all of them are liberal.
00:24:14.160 The people who run the schools here, they're liberal.
00:24:18.300 So when we put up posters, and these are definitely a bit more inflammatory than the IE posters, they get very little coverage.
00:24:27.120 And I think it's because they know that they can starve us of attention.
00:24:33.940 And I mean, that's a very smart move on their part, but we've got to find ways to get around that.
00:24:41.240 Now, are you guys being attacked by antifas at all for Cascadia?
00:24:44.540 Are people trying to dox you what's happening?
00:24:46.860 Because I hear that Seattle has quite an antifa presence.
00:24:49.480 But when I see pictures of them, they look quite pathetic.
00:24:53.260 Oh, that's because they are.
00:24:56.040 They're completely impotent.
00:24:57.660 I have something to definitely say about that.
00:25:00.860 I have several times now gone out in public to, like, the greater Seattle area, plain clothes, just how I would dress when I'm getting off of work.
00:25:10.700 And I've gone out with a glass scraper, which is one of those little scrapers with a razor blade.
00:25:15.240 And I've just gone up and down street after street, scraping off all of their stuff and replacing it with Cascadia stuff.
00:25:24.120 And we're talking, like, for three hours at a time, three or four hours here, doing this in front of bus stops where there's 20 people waiting.
00:25:33.540 No one has said anything.
00:25:34.760 No one's even taken my picture.
00:25:37.060 I've looked behind me.
00:25:38.040 No one follows me.
00:25:39.100 And these are in places where they have those Antifa-controlled zone posters or, like, anti-racist zone.
00:25:45.880 So I don't know about other places, but for me personally, Antifa is not doing anything.
00:25:51.400 They are a joke in this area.
00:25:53.500 They step in, put up a few of these anti-racist zone posters, and then just leave and never come back again.
00:26:00.680 And they are just, they're absolutely pathetic, in all honesty.
00:26:07.200 And I know some of them are going to be...
00:26:08.460 Well, it's hard to find the fascists when you're lying in the gutter on drugs.
00:26:11.780 Oh, yeah.
00:26:12.600 Yeah.
00:26:13.280 And I hope some of them hear that, too.
00:26:15.540 They're trying to pump themselves up like they have this huge presence, and we've got Seattle and lockdown, and nothing's happening.
00:26:22.320 Oh, not even close.
00:26:23.360 Yeah.
00:26:24.080 They'll talk a big game online, but they're most likely holed up at the local state-run injection center.
00:26:31.760 Just needle-taking heroin.
00:26:33.620 Did they have those in Seattle now?
00:26:35.760 Oh, yeah.
00:26:36.280 You think he's memeing.
00:26:37.960 No.
00:26:38.740 I know.
00:26:39.580 They're putting those in.
00:26:40.640 They have them in Canada.
00:26:41.680 They're putting them in New York.
00:26:42.720 So they have one in Seattle, huh?
00:26:44.000 Have you guys driven by there and checked out the crowds going in?
00:26:47.300 Oh, yeah.
00:26:47.800 They are the scum of the earth and also Antifa.
00:26:51.120 So not the best people.
00:26:53.860 They're not sending their best.
00:26:54.680 Yeah.
00:26:54.860 So for people who don't know, you guys tell people what are these injection centers that the government has built.
00:27:00.920 Fill us in.
00:27:01.660 Oh, boy.
00:27:02.640 So they are places right now in Seattle, we only have needle exchanges, which are where these degenerates can go and turn in their old used bloody heroin needles for new clean needles because something, something stopping the spread of disease.
00:27:19.140 And a lot of these places, I recently found out, also give out meth and crack pipes on the side.
00:27:25.360 Same reason, because you don't want to get herpes from smoking out of someone else's pipe or something.
00:27:29.820 Now, what they are going to do and what just recently got approved is a safe injection site where they're taking it one step further and saying that these degenerates can come in this building and lay down on a nice bed and have a professional volunteer nurse inject them with heroin that is kept on site because they figure it's safer than letting them do it themselves.
00:27:54.280 It'll reduce overdoses or whatever, which is complete bullshit because when they tried it in Canada, it's actually very funny.
00:28:01.360 The amount of overdoses across the country went down, but the amount of overdoses in that particular city, and unfortunately, I forget which city it is now, skyrocketed, surprisingly enough.
00:28:12.300 And we pay for this, right? The taxpayers pay for these drugs, for these druggies.
00:28:18.720 Oh, yeah. That is taxpayer heroin right there.
00:28:21.180 Oh, jeez. God, I can't believe that's happening.
00:28:25.640 Yeah, and see, and this is why some people in the alt-right are like, that's it.
00:28:29.700 I just want to, you know, flee to the mountains and have my community.
00:28:33.660 But, you know, there's a lot of alt-right people that want to stay in urban communities and keep a presence.
00:28:38.060 So where do you guys, you know, fall into the mix?
00:28:41.320 Do you guys want to start communities that are kind of out in rural areas or be in the city?
00:28:46.400 Tell me.
00:28:47.760 Well, we're trying to strike a balance.
00:28:49.980 Right. Instead of concentrating on one place, we're trying to change this degenerate cultural milieu we live in
00:28:56.140 to something that everyone's going to want to live in and raise their kids.
00:29:01.040 So instead of focusing on the cities or moving out into the forest and starting up farms or anything like that,
00:29:08.640 we just want to change the culture and do some culture jamming.
00:29:13.600 Yeah, I always say I think that we should do a little bit of everything.
00:29:16.520 We should be in the cities and have a presence, but then it's also good to have, you know,
00:29:20.320 other people out in the countryside who know how to farm and know how to do things.
00:29:23.920 So, I mean, if shit does hit the fan, we have networks of, you know, farmers that know how to grow food
00:29:28.380 or we know where to get clean water or we have places that we can go to or safe houses.
00:29:32.580 If someone gets in trouble with the law and needs to hide, you know, we need to have options.
00:29:37.440 I think we should have a variety.
00:29:40.200 Exactly.
00:29:40.760 Diversity is our strength.
00:29:43.800 Yeah, we certainly have all these things.
00:29:45.740 I mean, the biggest weapon that the left uses against us just for thinking the way we do is essentially starving us.
00:29:54.260 You know, if if we get doxed, we'll get we'll lose our jobs, which is taking food out of our mouths and out of our families mouths.
00:30:03.200 And the only way to prevent that is to have a network of people just like us who are willing and able to support us.
00:30:10.860 So we need to, you know, create a micro economy just within our own ranks, within the alt-right,
00:30:17.920 where we can be as self-sufficient as possible and not have to rely on the, you know, the actual economy.
00:30:25.800 Exactly.
00:30:26.300 Having businesses where we can buy from each other and hire each other.
00:30:29.480 So when someone says, I'm going to call your boss and get you fired and then, you know, your boss answers and tells him, you know what?
00:30:35.680 Fuck off.
00:30:36.260 I mean, yeah, we need those.
00:30:38.900 That's the dream.
00:30:39.420 Yeah, I mean, we need those kinds of networks.
00:30:41.440 I think about that all the time.
00:30:42.720 And I mean, there's so many companies now that you just can't buy from because you don't want to support them.
00:30:47.460 And it's like where you can go to is a very small list anymore.
00:30:51.700 At least it is for me.
00:30:52.640 Yeah, we're we're definitely yeah, we're definitely doing that already.
00:30:55.860 And it's it's growing very rapidly.
00:30:57.420 We have people in every sector I can think of of, you know, we have people in the tech industry.
00:31:03.800 We have farmers, we have people in the medical profession, this you name it.
00:31:09.860 We've got Cascadians who are experts in that field.
00:31:13.660 And, you know, that's that's what we want to do above all else is ultimately infiltrate all aspects of society here in the Pacific Northwest.
00:31:23.680 You know, we want we want to basically be a, you know, a shadow government where look underneath any given rock and there's a Cascadian pulling strings and making the Pacific Northwest better for white people.
00:31:38.360 I like that secret societies.
00:31:39.860 It's funny.
00:31:40.220 We used to do a lot of shows.
00:31:41.280 Henrik did on secret society networks and stuff.
00:31:43.940 And now here we are.
00:31:45.620 I mean, we know that they exist.
00:31:47.500 So why not become one that is benevolent to whites?
00:31:51.580 Exactly.
00:31:52.760 I totally agree.
00:31:54.120 Now, long term, what do you guys see for the future of America?
00:31:57.200 How do you think things are going to go down if, you know, multiculturalism is just continuing?
00:32:02.000 Mass immigration is continuing.
00:32:03.960 All this anti-white rhetoric is ramping up.
00:32:06.620 I don't know how much Trump's actually going to do.
00:32:09.280 What do you guys see long term for the future of America?
00:32:12.120 All I can.
00:32:13.120 All of you guys jump in here.
00:32:15.340 Balkanization.
00:32:15.880 Honestly, Balkanization.
00:32:19.440 So how would that go down?
00:32:21.140 Oh, geez.
00:32:22.080 I mean, it's hard to start speculating.
00:32:25.720 There are infinite possibilities, really, I think.
00:32:29.060 Yeah.
00:32:29.300 All we can do, it doesn't help to really speculate.
00:32:32.520 It helps to be prepared in all aspects.
00:32:35.980 Ultimately, what we would want is the most peaceful resolution possible.
00:32:42.280 Most likely, the left's not going to make that a possibility.
00:32:45.880 But, you know, it doesn't hurt to hope for it.
00:32:50.080 Nonetheless, you know, we want to be prepared in all ways.
00:32:53.800 And we don't want to come across as crazy preppers or anything because there's such a bad connotation that goes with that.
00:32:59.220 But it is, you know, traditionalism is being prepared for for anything.
00:33:06.640 Right.
00:33:07.200 And luckily, these people that we would probably eventually be fighting are the same people who are going to these government funded injection sites and have shitty Antifa street tattoos on them.
00:33:18.900 So minimal preparation preparation will get you a long way.
00:33:22.440 Yeah.
00:33:22.620 A few smart guys can can take care of, you know, thousands of idiots.
00:33:27.280 Right.
00:33:28.060 Right.
00:33:28.600 Right.
00:33:29.500 That's the general goal is really just general preparedness.
00:33:33.260 We don't know how things are going to go down or when.
00:33:35.560 But we want to make sure that when it does happen, we have a good, solid network and we have plenty of fallback points.
00:33:41.620 Very smart.
00:33:42.160 I think it's interesting, too, how whenever we talk about, you know, separating, they hate white people and say, OK, well, if you hate white people, then just don't live with them.
00:33:49.060 Just let them have their own area and then you don't have to live with white people.
00:33:52.320 But they don't want that either, do they?
00:33:54.020 They just kind of want to be in our space and hound us and, you know, suck money from us, don't they?
00:34:00.860 Of course.
00:34:01.340 Right.
00:34:01.500 White people have the money and the nice things and they want the money and the nice things.
00:34:06.120 We're just mean for not giving it to them.
00:34:07.800 And I wonder how that would go down if the government was because the government is, let's face it, it is against us.
00:34:13.920 And how would that go down if there was a group of people like us who legally tried to separate and have their own territory?
00:34:21.100 I don't know how that would go down.
00:34:22.260 Maybe it's going to work.
00:34:23.060 We'll see what happens with California collects it.
00:34:25.240 I really hope that happens.
00:34:26.720 Yeah, we'll see if California can pull it off and then that will set a good precedent.
00:34:31.140 The South will probably be the next to follow.
00:34:33.540 And then, you know, hopefully by the time the Pacific Northwest does it, there will be a good template in place to do it the right way.
00:34:41.800 So what are ways you think in which we can prepare now?
00:34:44.940 I know we've been talking about this, though, unlike our parents, you know, for what's coming in the future.
00:34:49.720 What are some things we need to do to make things better for our children?
00:34:53.800 Because our parents just dropped the ball, didn't they?
00:34:56.420 Yeah.
00:34:56.820 Well, first of all, we need to reestablish traditional families and traditional communities, which the community is built on the family.
00:35:04.880 So really, that's the most important thing.
00:35:07.060 You need men and women in traditional mindsets who are going to commit to marriage, to raising their children the right way, and to protecting their community from degeneracy.
00:35:16.080 Right, pass on tradition.
00:35:18.740 So many people nowadays are, I mean, that's half of the Swipple culture that we've been talking about is all these whites who had baby boomer parents that never taught them anything, trying to grasp out or grab out and find some tradition from their families.
00:35:36.080 You know, before, your dad used to be a carpenter, and he would pass that down to you, or your mother was great at knitting and sewing, and she would pass that down to you.
00:35:43.720 But nowadays, we have none of that, so we're just stuck with, you know, video games and porn and drinking in bars.
00:35:52.200 You know, we have no tradition like our ancestors used to.
00:35:56.360 Yeah, I think it's worse, too, in America, because you go to Europe, and I always say this, in Europe, they don't have to say white nationalists.
00:36:03.620 They're just Swedish nationalists, Polish nationalists, German nationalists, right?
00:36:07.460 Yeah, they have an ethnic consciousness.
00:36:09.360 Exactly, and they still have those traditions and that history, and they're connected to the land, but it's even harder for us because we're so far away from where we came from, right?
00:36:20.900 Well, right, unlike in Europe, where people still have very real roots.
00:36:26.000 I mean, you might live on land that your ancestors lived on, you know, for the past thousand or so years.
00:36:32.340 Here in America, we are already racists because colonists came to this land, and then we're racist because we killed the Indians, and then we're racist because we had slaves.
00:36:41.980 And after children are taught that for, you know, 20-plus years all throughout school, these kids are left with nothing but popular culture as their tradition.
00:36:52.240 Now, what are some things you guys are doing for your kids as they grow up to teach them about their European roots?
00:36:59.180 Or is there new traditions you're trying to create to kind of break the cycle of this rootlessness?
00:37:04.900 I'd say homeschooling is probably the biggest thing.
00:37:07.860 Taking your kids out of public school and these brainwashing centers and controlling what's going into their heads is probably the first and foremost thing you can do.
00:37:17.100 And also, reading them the actual stories of our ancestors, not this paused bullcrap about how Columbus was horrible, we're all just slavers and all that.
00:37:28.580 Read them empowering stories that show them why being a European is pretty much the greatest thing on Earth.
00:37:35.340 Right, yeah.
00:37:36.600 And, you know, there's so many things that you can just not do that'll set your kids up for success.
00:37:41.640 Like, rather than taking them to go see a Jewish movie, take them to a national park to, you know, take a walk in nature, things like that.
00:37:48.740 It's just so simple to do, yet people really overlook their value.
00:37:53.760 I'm glad you brought up homeschool.
00:37:55.220 You know, in Sweden, homeschooling is illegal.
00:37:57.720 I don't know if you guys know that.
00:37:59.160 Wow.
00:38:00.000 I'm not surprised.
00:38:00.820 You can only do it under extremely special circumstances.
00:38:05.780 And I looked at what those were and it's pretty much impossible.
00:38:08.660 You, like, you can't get it.
00:38:10.100 You know, it doesn't matter what your situation is.
00:38:13.180 But these Muslims, they can have these, you know, schools where it's just all Muslims, of course.
00:38:17.740 But if they do let you under these special circumstances, the government comes and checks what you're doing and how you're teaching your kid and they want to give you the curriculum.
00:38:29.380 So you're teaching them the same stuff just at home.
00:38:32.000 It's pretty crazy.
00:38:32.920 That's really depressing to hear.
00:38:34.400 I know.
00:38:34.840 It's awful.
00:38:35.380 So the idea of homeschool networks is good, too.
00:38:37.880 Is that something you guys are talking about doing?
00:38:40.540 So that the kids can feel like they have a school so they're with other kids and not just stuck with mom and dad all day, you know?
00:38:46.260 Yeah, that's definitely a good goal to work towards.
00:38:49.760 And I think we've discussed things like that.
00:38:52.040 The thing about, you know, being in the Pacific Northwest and having it be such a leftist swipple area, they do some things right.
00:39:00.840 And in one of those ways is homeschooling.
00:39:03.180 Like there's a it's very, very easy to homeschool your kid in the Pacific Northwest, Washington particularly.
00:39:10.900 The programs in place are fantastic.
00:39:14.640 And that can be totally used to our advantage, even though it's a leftist institution, essentially.
00:39:22.760 Yeah, that's great here.
00:39:23.320 Well, another thing I do like about some of those lefty areas, and we have to reclaim this because this is really comes back to, you know, rightist mentality.
00:39:30.500 But, you know, I'm big in organics.
00:39:32.900 I don't like GMOs.
00:39:34.440 I don't like chemicals.
00:39:35.420 And that's something those swipple areas, you know, you have more of that.
00:39:38.340 You have more whole foods in those areas and farmers markets and organic farms and stuff, don't you?
00:39:43.500 Yeah, we do.
00:39:44.840 And we actually we're pretty proud of it.
00:39:46.940 And, you know, we don't we we don't shy away from it at all.
00:39:51.820 It's, you know, agreeing with lefties for the right reasons and because they do have some things right.
00:39:58.620 And we do agree with them in a lot of ways with their, you know, environmentalism, their their health foods and all that good stuff.
00:40:06.940 Like we definitely do not shy away from that.
00:40:10.840 Now, being nationalists, we like things that are that are good for the nation.
00:40:15.160 So whether or not it's it falls on one side of the spectrum of politics or another doesn't really matter to us as long as it's objectively good.
00:40:23.680 I find that a lot of lefties get thrown off, too, with the alt-right because it's it's not your typical, you know, conservatives.
00:40:29.860 We're not freaked out of words like socialism.
00:40:33.440 And so they're like, who are these people?
00:40:35.680 What is this?
00:40:36.220 It just totally flusters them.
00:40:37.860 Have you noticed that?
00:40:39.340 Yeah, yeah.
00:40:40.160 I mean, I'm I'm fine with certain types of welfare and socialism as long as it's for white people.
00:40:46.580 But that's the part that they don't like.
00:40:48.400 Yeah, I know.
00:40:49.660 Lefties already have a hard enough time pinning down conservative views.
00:40:53.240 But when looking at the alt-right, it's just a complete mystery to them, I think.
00:40:58.740 They want socialism for the world, not just the nation.
00:41:03.260 So basically they want communism, right?
00:41:05.960 Right.
00:41:06.520 Yeah.
00:41:06.720 OK, we're also bringing on Paige, Heron Volk's wife.
00:41:10.740 So hello, Paige.
00:41:11.640 Thanks for joining us.
00:41:13.160 Hi, thanks for having me.
00:41:14.680 So you're also part of Cascadia, of course, and you have a women's group going.
00:41:18.460 So tell us about what you're doing.
00:41:20.920 Yeah, it's truly exciting.
00:41:23.700 And the one thing that I would like to leave listeners with is hope and optimism for the future.
00:41:31.640 We we have a girls group.
00:41:33.340 It's parallel to our guys group.
00:41:35.320 Uh, it started, uh, about the same time with a couple wives and it's just grown exponentially
00:41:42.580 from there.
00:41:43.520 And we focus on traditionalism and like you were talking earlier, homeschool networks,
00:41:49.340 uh, traditional crafts like knitting and cooking.
00:41:53.200 We babysit, uh, for events so the guys can go off and be men.
00:41:58.700 Um, so it's truly been, uh, a really rewarding process.
00:42:03.220 Uh, and I think how we're doing it is the most sustainable way for the future.
00:42:08.180 I've, I've been the ladies coordinator for other organizations or other servers with women
00:42:13.140 and it quickly devolves into chaos.
00:42:15.900 So I'm really proud of our structure and standards, um, that have made this such a rewarding process.
00:42:23.160 I find alt-right women.
00:42:24.800 I've been, I've had more, I have more women friends now than ever in my life because I found
00:42:30.380 that women were always, you know, quite catty and bitchy in the past, you know, so I was
00:42:34.500 always stuck surrounded by, you know, all the guys always, you know, but I find that the
00:42:38.860 alt-right women, they're more, they don't have that kind of stuff because they know that
00:42:42.320 this is our survival at stake here.
00:42:44.180 They're, they're over that kind of BS and they're thinking of bigger, important goals.
00:42:47.840 They're thinking of tribe, they're thinking of nation.
00:42:50.220 They've left that kind of extreme individualism and, and the materialistic aspects of, you
00:42:56.500 know, what has been pushed on white women really.
00:42:59.420 Right.
00:43:00.340 Yeah.
00:43:00.900 And if you, and that's kind of what our structure is there for our women in the group are, um,
00:43:06.180 married or in very long-term stable relationships with the men in our group, which I think really
00:43:11.660 is key because I mean, a single woman can't help but to be attention seeking.
00:43:17.040 It's, it's not her fault.
00:43:18.200 She's looking for a mate.
00:43:19.740 And we found that kind of behavior to be damaging, not only to the women's group as they don't
00:43:25.360 want to participate as much in building female relationships, um, but also to the men's group.
00:43:30.640 And so like our, our chats, um, are segregated and we're really focused on building female
00:43:36.140 community around traditionalism.
00:43:38.980 Um, so like I said, uh, it's been very rewarding and I'm encouraged by the girls group as well as
00:43:44.440 Cascadia for pushing past that magic drinking buddies number that a lot of groups tend to
00:43:50.280 get stuck in like between five and 20.
00:43:52.460 Like we have our, our drinking buds, like we have our friendship, we have our community,
00:43:56.260 like we don't need to grow anymore.
00:43:57.540 And they just stay there stagnant.
00:43:59.740 Um, which is really such a disservice to your fellow white people around you, um, who you
00:44:06.680 could offer this beautiful community to and your structure.
00:44:09.560 Um, so really proud of our group in that respect.
00:44:11.880 I think too, that a lot of, a lot of white guys, they miss the, having a gang, you know,
00:44:17.000 having a true brotherhood.
00:44:18.240 I think that's kind of been robbed from them.
00:44:20.060 And that's such a part of our psyche, you know, tribalism and same with women.
00:44:23.480 I've been saying this a lot too, of like the sisterhood.
00:44:26.220 I don't mean this in a feminist or a witchy way, but anytime I say that, that's what people
00:44:29.940 think.
00:44:30.260 They think of some feminist crap or some like Wiccan witch group or something.
00:44:34.800 But I mean, we need a sisterhood of white women, a white gang.
00:44:38.680 I think that that's been robbed from us through a lot of propaganda.
00:44:41.520 If you look at all the movies and the TV shows, they always show these white girls just being
00:44:45.960 awful to each other, don't they?
00:44:47.640 And I think a lot of women, the white girls, they, they crave that.
00:44:51.360 They want to have those good friendships.
00:44:54.320 Oh, absolutely.
00:44:55.260 Absolutely.
00:44:55.780 I think, um, feminism has robbed women of our traditional female tribe and it's tried
00:45:01.800 to turn us into men, um, and told us that we need to compete with one another and throw
00:45:06.340 each other under the bus.
00:45:07.180 Like, Hey ladies, the men's world is cutthroat and that's what you have to do to survive.
00:45:11.480 So they've just wrecked havoc on us.
00:45:13.700 And so the girls that we're getting, it's kind of a unique challenge to our girls group.
00:45:18.160 Um, since we're getting wives and long-term girlfriends, um, all these girls are either
00:45:24.400 newly reformed liberals or still at least partially liberal.
00:45:28.360 And so our process is kind of like bringing them the rest of the way towards us and our
00:45:34.780 transition period or our prospect period can last years if need be.
00:45:39.620 Um, and kind of like that, that healing process, like, don't worry.
00:45:43.740 It's okay to hang out with other women.
00:45:45.740 Um, we aren't catty.
00:45:47.480 We're honest with one another.
00:45:48.940 We have high standards, but we'll encourage you and help you get there.
00:45:52.440 Um, it's, that's all right.
00:45:53.880 And so we, we just had a member who had a baby recently.
00:45:58.940 And so we, we got together and we all like, we cooked food and we brought over baby toys
00:46:03.780 and we went there and just showered them with love and affection and community and just celebrated
00:46:08.360 the birth of this new child.
00:46:09.600 And that's what this is truly about to supporting one another.
00:46:14.020 That's great.
00:46:14.380 Yeah.
00:46:14.480 That's what it takes as showing acts of kindness.
00:46:17.080 I know golden Dawn, they do that.
00:46:18.540 They go around and they just help people that are in need.
00:46:22.080 And because of that, they win people over through their kindness.
00:46:24.840 I think that that's excellent.
00:46:26.080 Also, when you're talking and kind of reminds me of, you know, we always say that liberalism
00:46:29.720 is like a cult.
00:46:30.640 So you're dealing with these girls who are basically like, they've just left the cult,
00:46:34.680 but the cult still has a little, little hook in them.
00:46:37.680 They're like ex cult members that need to be deprogrammed.
00:46:41.160 That's basically, I mean, that's kind of how I felt when I came out of this stuff.
00:46:44.340 Like, what did I just go through?
00:46:45.800 You know, I have to reprogram everything that I learned.
00:46:49.280 So yeah, I mean, and I think women can gently do that and help other women.
00:46:53.300 And one thing is they learn through conditioning through the group, don't they?
00:46:58.240 Oh, absolutely.
00:46:59.500 And I think because women are so tribal, the biggest thing that prevents women from jumping
00:47:04.720 over into the alt-right is, well, I have this liberal peer group behind me.
00:47:09.520 If I adopt these views, even if I'm just a regular garden variety Trump supporter, they're
00:47:14.240 going to ostracize me.
00:47:15.860 And back in the day, that would have meant death.
00:47:17.980 You would have gotten left out in the wilderness.
00:47:20.100 You would have died.
00:47:21.220 So why, why the hell would they ever say something against the group and risk that?
00:47:27.060 But what we do is we say, don't worry.
00:47:30.060 We have a new tribe for you to land on.
00:47:33.300 It's okay to take that jump.
00:47:34.980 And look, look, we're normal people.
00:47:36.580 Our first double dates that we go on with these, these women, they're always shocked to
00:47:40.960 see that we don't have like swastikas on their face, on our faces.
00:47:44.220 We're normal.
00:47:45.480 We're sweets, kind women, just like they think their liberal peer group is.
00:47:51.660 So we make the transition very easy.
00:47:54.080 Yeah, we're not Nazis from the trailer park and we're not from the wacky church, right?
00:47:59.380 Like they try and show that we are all the time.
00:48:01.400 Exactly.
00:48:01.960 Yes, that's the expectation.
00:48:03.540 Also, the other one I see that comes up too, when you say traditionalism and you're talking
00:48:07.980 about these things, people automatically think like Mormon women, no offense to Ayla.
00:48:12.540 I love Ayla, a good friend of mine, Mormon, but you know, they automatically think that
00:48:16.740 it's like some kind of church cult or something, don't they?
00:48:20.580 Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:48:22.360 And so we try, we focus on the positive that we are, I say we're like archaeologists.
00:48:29.200 What we're really doing is just digging up and retaking our culture and our traditions
00:48:35.480 back, like my husband was saying, like knitting and sewing, looking after our children.
00:48:41.660 And I think once women hang around the others who have kids or have a kid themselves, they
00:48:47.040 realize that for the first time in their life, they're truly happy.
00:48:50.480 I've never been this happy in my entire life and I've never had friends that were girls
00:48:54.200 before.
00:48:55.080 And so I was truly scared at first.
00:48:57.020 I wanted to be a diplomat and give microloans to third worlders.
00:49:01.340 And I thought I was going to be happy doing that.
00:49:04.780 And I was so miserable.
00:49:06.400 And, but now I feel like I, I found my family.
00:49:09.840 And so, yes, that is their concern at first.
00:49:11.780 It always is something that we have to deal with, but it's quickly washed away by the overwhelming
00:49:18.300 positivity they see in the group.
00:49:20.540 I think it's good too, for these other younger women to see other young women with babies,
00:49:24.580 because a lot of times when you go into the city, you know, going to LA, I remember
00:49:28.320 there not too long ago, it's like, where's all the children?
00:49:31.500 I don't see any babies anywhere, you know?
00:49:33.900 And then they're constantly pushing all this propaganda.
00:49:36.720 I just saw another one, I think it was a CNN spread or something about how babies kill
00:49:41.420 your romance life and your sex life.
00:49:43.660 And of course, it's like a picture of these white people on the cover, you know, they're
00:49:47.740 always pushing this to girls.
00:49:49.180 So it's good for them to see that.
00:49:50.480 And I think it also, different kind of hormones kick on.
00:49:54.000 Some other biological function comes on just when women are surrounded by kids and then
00:49:57.680 they kind of have that desire to like, yeah, I want to have kids too.
00:50:00.060 Plus, it's more fun when you have girlfriends and you can raise the kids together, isn't
00:50:03.540 it?
00:50:04.420 Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:50:05.700 Baby fever is at like insane levels right now in the group.
00:50:09.780 I feel like I can't concentrate on anything.
00:50:12.040 My baby fever is so bad.
00:50:13.680 What's nice about Oregon is there are so many white families around here.
00:50:18.100 Like my husband is saying, it's such a hipster culture, such a white culture.
00:50:21.880 There's such low levels of diversity.
00:50:23.620 It's really safe.
00:50:24.360 It's really encouraging to see all these white, normal, liberal parents with tons of
00:50:29.540 kids.
00:50:29.820 I always make it a point to go over and compliment them.
00:50:34.160 But truly, being around so many families makes you want to have kids too.
00:50:38.000 And we've been fortunate to have a lot of older women coming into Cascadia now that have
00:50:44.520 like three or four kids.
00:50:46.440 Because obviously, I've never had a child.
00:50:48.920 I don't have kids yet.
00:50:49.800 And a lot of these younger girls don't either.
00:50:52.660 And there's a lot of fear behind it.
00:50:55.000 Like, am I going to be able to afford this?
00:50:57.760 Childbirth sounds so terrifying.
00:51:00.100 And to have them hold their hand through the entire process, don't worry.
00:51:04.440 That rash is normal.
00:51:06.320 Your baby's not going to die.
00:51:07.660 You're going to be fine.
00:51:08.840 Or don't worry.
00:51:10.480 Birth isn't that scary.
00:51:11.880 Here's what to expect.
00:51:13.420 It's been so encouraging.
00:51:16.140 It's really helped me with a lot of my fears.
00:51:18.440 And I can't wait to have my own kids in this community with them.
00:51:21.280 You'll be a great mom, I know.
00:51:22.760 But last question.
00:51:23.660 So how are you finding women?
00:51:25.880 How are they finding you, rather?
00:51:28.220 It's been a very...
00:51:30.200 Because it's a healing process for myself as well.
00:51:32.380 I met my husband in the Marines.
00:51:34.280 And so I came out of the Marines a little bit more assertive.
00:51:39.320 And learning how to reintegrate into female communities has been hard for me, just as it
00:51:46.980 is for these women as well.
00:51:49.160 And just relearning women's psychology and how we work well together.
00:51:53.520 For instance, I think it's very important to encourage investment in the ladies' group
00:51:59.560 with participation.
00:52:01.300 And to individually reach out to these girls and find where they're at and what they're
00:52:05.580 proud of, what their pedestal is.
00:52:07.260 And to put them on that pedestal, we have a girl who's really, really good at knitting.
00:52:11.720 And so to reach out to her and say, hey, I think it's really important.
00:52:17.100 And I think it's great that you know how to do this.
00:52:19.180 Come out and teach the other girls.
00:52:20.820 Or, hey, you're really good at writing.
00:52:23.360 Would you like to submit some pieces for our website in the future?
00:52:27.400 So really reaching out to them, encouraging investment in our community.
00:52:31.140 Because it's really human capital that we're investing in.
00:52:34.320 And whenever we invest in each other and participate, even in daily chats with baby posting or food
00:52:40.660 posting, we're investing in this community long term.
00:52:43.680 And we can't say it enough.
00:52:44.700 We've probably said it dozens of times already.
00:52:46.840 But community, community, community, community.
00:52:49.800 At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether we do activism or any of this other stuff.
00:52:54.200 If we do not have community, then we will not be sustainable.
00:52:58.000 We will not stand the test of time.
00:52:59.980 And we will fail in the long run.
00:53:02.060 Human relationships and our white community is the greatest thing that we have to offer
00:53:07.580 our brothers and sisters.
00:53:09.180 And I think that's really what sets Cascadia apart.
00:53:12.280 And that we look at a holistic view of a community.
00:53:14.660 It's not just for the men and their drinking buddies.
00:53:18.160 It's for white women and white children.
00:53:20.520 Because you can't have, you can't save the white race without white women and white children.
00:53:25.240 It needs to encompass everything.
00:53:26.860 So that's a last note of great encouragements to these groups to go out there.
00:53:34.500 And don't be afraid to start a women's community.
00:53:37.480 Well, thank you, Paige.
00:53:38.280 That's great.
00:53:39.160 I'm so glad that we've connected.
00:53:40.320 We'll have to talk more off air.
00:53:42.100 But lastly, guys, I want to know, how can people reach out to you guys if they want to
00:53:47.080 hook up with you?
00:53:47.580 Because I know we have a lot of listeners in the Northwest.
00:53:49.560 And if you're listening to this, be sure that you heard this show.
00:53:52.800 How can they get a hold of you guys?
00:53:55.040 Their website is the best way.
00:53:56.440 Our website is truecascadia.com, T-R-U-E, Cascadia.com.
00:54:03.180 And it's very, very easy to follow.
00:54:05.920 If you just scroll down on the main page, there is a little grid of different geographical
00:54:11.200 areas in Cascadia.
00:54:13.480 Just click on the one that corresponds with where you live or if you're moving here, where
00:54:18.040 you're going to be living.
00:54:19.000 And that links you to our email for that area and the coordinator who runs that area.
00:54:24.960 And we try to be as responsive as possible.
00:54:28.000 So we should get back to you within, what did you say, Cato, like a couple days at worst?
00:54:33.860 Yeah.
00:54:34.480 We are actually already getting a lot of people interested.
00:54:38.580 So it'd probably be a couple days at worst for working through them as fast as we can.
00:54:44.020 But we're only so many people, you know?
00:54:47.020 Yeah.
00:54:47.400 The biggest thing is don't be scared to reach out to us.
00:54:51.300 We're not going to bite.
00:54:52.300 We want to help you.
00:54:53.440 And if you are genuine and you want to be part of the community and part of the tribe,
00:54:59.820 reach out to us and we will do our best to meet you and find a place for you in Cascadia.
00:55:06.880 Well, it's so encouraging that you guys are having a lot of people reach you.
00:55:09.820 I love hearing that.
00:55:10.600 Nathan says that with Identity Europa, too.
00:55:12.480 I hear that from some other groups and people are starving for this right now.
00:55:16.320 So it's great that you guys are taking the initiative to create these networks.
00:55:21.480 So amazing, important work.
00:55:23.180 Thank you, guys.
00:55:23.860 Any closing thoughts?
00:55:25.620 If you're scared about doing anything, just go out and do it.
00:55:28.700 If you don't think you're doing everything you could possibly be doing for the movement,
00:55:33.700 change that.
00:55:34.980 Go out and do more.
00:55:36.180 Everyone else can do it if you just apply yourself.
00:55:40.220 That's right.
00:55:40.460 There's a place for everyone, right?
00:55:41.580 You just have to know what your talents are and put them to use.
00:55:45.080 Yeah.
00:55:45.580 With enough agency, everything is possible.
00:55:47.800 That's kind of my catchphrase and it's absolutely true.
00:55:51.080 But yeah, my closing thought is create the white society that you want to live in.
00:55:56.080 Oh, they pretty much encapsulated it all.
00:55:59.080 If I could reach out to all the guys all across America, though, you know, if there isn't an
00:56:04.060 area, if there isn't a group around your area, maybe you should be the one to start it.
00:56:08.900 You know, like they're saying, take that initiative.
00:56:10.840 Make the world you want.
00:56:12.740 That is how we got this whole thing started is we were a bunch of guys with enough agency
00:56:16.720 to look at a world we didn't like and say, you know what?
00:56:19.860 We're going to change this.
00:56:20.820 All right.
00:56:21.800 It's fantastic, guys.
00:56:23.040 Thanks, Cato, Jeffrey, Fairwater, Aaron Voke, and Paige.
00:56:27.180 I really appreciate your time.
00:56:28.780 It's been fantastic.
00:56:29.760 Thanks.
00:56:30.560 Thank you.
00:56:31.240 Thank you.
00:56:32.060 Yeah.
00:56:32.360 Thank you very much.
00:56:33.680 If you haven't connected with an alt-right group in your area, do it.
00:56:37.220 If you're in your 20s, Identity Europa also has a network across the country.
00:56:41.300 And if you don't know of one in your area, start one yourself.
00:56:44.220 But of course, be strict on the vetting process.
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