Radio 3Fourteen - Benny Wills - Leaving The City, Overcoming Fear, What Is Freedom？

00:00:00.000 welcome ladies and gents i'm lana we are streaming live from idaho and i do have

00:00:10.860 entropy open so feel free to send a chat it does help take care of my super cool babysitter by the

00:00:16.240 way joining me is actor speaker comedian streamer former liberal and friend benny welcome back

00:00:23.940 uh happy to be back it's cool to finally catch up like this again after so many years oh my gosh

00:00:31.400 anyway oh yeah oh yeah and we're going to get into that of idaho and how things have intersected but

00:00:35.760 i know you co-hosted uh flashback friday recently with henrik which was really cool you came back

00:00:40.720 in the you came into the studio and stuff but i had you on last i went through the archives

00:00:45.280 in 2013 can you believe that nine years ago my oh my how things have changed huh

00:00:51.280 i yeah that's mind-blowing that was right at the beginning of um i guess my my journey as a

00:00:59.640 public presenter that was the first year of joy camp is when we we talked and man so much has

00:01:07.300 happened in the last nine years it's overwhelming really yeah for several years you and kevin who's

00:01:12.960 there next to you and other friends you guys produce these well-made skits on you know various

00:01:16.620 dark conspiracies under the name joy camp some of you guys might remember comedy awareness

00:01:21.120 was the term i think you were using and nine years ago we talked about how tyrant elites

00:01:25.680 they fear creativity and comedy if they can't use it for their manipulation and control fast forward to

00:01:32.660 a few years later and they're banning comedians musicians content creators like as we've been

00:01:39.260 banned and censored it's crazy isn't it just in that short period yeah it all just keeps unfolding

00:01:45.140 exactly the way we predict we're all prophets it's all we see it coming we point at it and then it

00:01:52.340 happens and then we're still called crazy for predicting the future oh yeah now i know that

00:01:57.540 you have cut well what did they say a prophet is never loved in his own town i think a prophet is

00:02:01.480 never loved in his own country at this point but um you know conspiracy just means people conspiring

00:02:06.900 to do something people do it every day i know you've covered all the big ones now looking back

00:02:11.060 after that period of your life and in terms of all the great conspiracies today what do you

00:02:16.340 think is the the biggest most important one nowadays that stands out the biggest most important

00:02:23.220 conspiracy yeah i know people talk about like the moon landing or gsk it's all over the place but

00:02:29.440 good question i think um i think i'm going to give a kind of a general answer i think that

00:02:35.960 everything that we're taught that's happened at any point in history needs to be questioned and

00:02:42.520 it's maybe that maybe that is the two a bit too broad but i've i've made a point now where it's the

00:02:48.300 conspiracy is so big everything i've ever learned from another person or some you know ethereal

00:02:56.220 authoritative figure i've come to question so i think the biggest conspiracy conspiracy of all is

00:03:03.480 that everything needs to be questioned everything is subject to uh more perspective

00:03:08.340 absolutely good answer absolutely you have to question everything question all authority question

00:03:15.220 everything we've been told and even that it makes you an extremist nowadays if you just simply question

00:03:20.920 basic things now how would you say you've changed the most since 2013 i was thinking about it

00:03:25.600 and for me i i've grown i've been forced to grow a thick skin and a strong stomach after all i've seen

00:03:32.000 and all the attacks that we've endured but how would you say that you've changed more in the last

00:03:37.020 nine years yeah well just looking at that joy camp page we uh we've had a lot of videos that they try

00:03:43.460 to take down in the past year i've been successful at getting them all back which is kind of cool i

00:03:48.020 don't think that's happens too often but i i always write back and say parody this is parody this is just

00:03:54.400 a parody it's a commentary and every single time youtube writes me back and apologizes and say they got

00:03:59.860 it wrong which has been really interesting to observe so only time we got a video taken down

00:04:05.360 is for copyright stuff but they've been trying to take video i mean once every couple months they'll

00:04:10.540 try to take a video down and i'll appeal it and so far 100 success which is an interesting thing to

00:04:17.420 uh acknowledge wow that's amazing uh that can't be said for us no yeah well my colleagues now are

00:04:24.980 off of youtube yeah and i mean we've certainly had some videos that have been taken down and never

00:04:31.200 come back but yeah i think they respond to my uh appeals which is fascinating it makes me wonder if

00:04:37.780 anyone's actually watching or is certain sort of ai algorithm bot situation i don't know so there's a

00:04:44.080 lot i want to dive into but first i want to get into idaho how how we both ended up in northern idaho

00:04:49.640 which is hilarious and i didn't know you were here uh you didn't know that we were here uh but

00:04:54.720 you were meeting up with a mutual friend rebecca actually your wife who i'm friends with your

00:04:59.280 beautiful wife was hanging out with rebecca and then we came up and it was like oh uh henrik and

00:05:04.720 lana also live in idaho now so how did you come to move here i know it's it's been surreal so many

00:05:13.120 people it's like it's like uh who's who of youtube castoffs but it's great i mean we've all been drawn

00:05:20.440 to the same place for i think very similar reasons i mean sonia and i we left california in 2018 we

00:05:26.500 didn't know we would end up in north idaho but we knew we wanted to end up someplace better than

00:05:32.740 los angeles and we just trusted the signs that we were getting so we somehow made it up here we

00:05:39.980 bought a property a year ago we've been building on it ever since and yeah it's it's strange and cool

00:05:47.440 that so many people that i know from the internet uh are here as well and you can hang out and meet up

00:05:56.560 now you grew up in los angeles right you're born in in california we're going to get into that later

00:06:02.700 you're you're acting and leaving and stuff but how is it being living somewhere that's more freedom

00:06:07.340 focused definitely more conservative if you know what i mean versus california what does it feel

00:06:12.220 like for you to be around that kind of energy i feel like i'm in a pocket reality i feel like we are

00:06:21.480 less uh influenced by some of the nonsense up here and it's it's interesting i mean we left california

00:06:32.960 before it was cool i mean i moved in idaho before it really became like i mean we bought our property

00:06:38.740 but a little over a year ago but then the real estate market really increased last year uh it's

00:06:45.180 fantastic first of all to be out of california i saw all of this coming i didn't know it was going

00:06:51.280 to be a virus that was going to be the catalyst for you know the new nonsense but i could definitely

00:06:57.260 see that there was that la wasn't the place for me and that being in the city wasn't a good thing so

00:07:02.400 being up here is really calming it's because it what's happening the last couple years is like uh

00:07:11.260 it's it presents like an existential sort of dread no matter where you are you still kind of are affected

00:07:17.440 by what's going on and living remotely living rurally makes it less uh i don't know depressing

00:07:28.500 yeah so it's we're we're we're so happy that we landed here and we're so happy that we landed here

00:07:34.300 before 2020 um and all everything that's happened since so yeah it's it's a i'm blown away still i'm

00:07:42.480 really blown away still this is where i live yeah it's surreal very relieved i feel like when we came

00:07:47.320 too it's kind of a reset period like you needed to just kind of get grounded again if you're coming

00:07:52.160 from a super lefty cesspit or in our case you know being doxed and harassed by people in the town and

00:07:58.380 journalists showing up and stuff there's this period of kind of washing it away and healing and recharging

00:08:03.960 and i don't know there's just something special about the land here and when you're around people

00:08:08.480 that you share something in common with like there's a true community it's a true brotherhood and a

00:08:12.640 sisterhood so many of us are finding that we uh that's been missing in our life you know so it's

00:08:17.980 definitely empowering absolutely yep well people seem to understand the idea of freedom here

00:08:22.960 generally and not only that but that freedom is something worth protecting i think most people

00:08:29.440 really don't know how to define freedom they think freedom comes from someone saying they have it

00:08:35.980 or they're allowed to have it but up here people know that you know freedom is important and that

00:08:42.660 it's worth protecting and it's a pretty it seems anyway like the area maybe maybe it's just north

00:08:50.180 idaho uh it's kind of hands off which i really appreciate especially in this county that we're in

00:08:55.680 we're in a county called bonner county and it's a little it's like the wild west i mean it's like

00:09:01.700 you don't even need a building permit you got to do i mean i can't think of many places where

00:09:05.740 you don't need a building permit it's pretty cool you know i heard someone complaining the

00:09:09.820 other day about how uh oh we built this nice house and then the person right next door to us

00:09:14.000 had an outhouse and they had to carry water and i was like well that's cool you know because they

00:09:18.880 can do whatever they want on their lands you know yeah and that comes with its own set of

00:09:24.300 challenges for the buyer of a property which we found out this past year since the previous

00:09:29.580 owners were just doing whatever they wanted to it was uh we there's been a lot of surprises

00:09:34.560 regarding the property and the house on it but you know it is what it is we're we're happy to

00:09:41.300 to fix those problems i'm glad that these are problems put it that way now you were a working

00:09:48.140 actor you were living in la la land let's talk about your experience in in hollywood uh maybe you

00:09:53.720 look at it differently now i don't know if you and also if you have any regrets or would you have done

00:09:59.060 anything differently well i mean i feel like everything happens for a reason and my path has

00:10:04.760 led me here so i can't i don't have any regrets about anything if i had to do it all over again i

00:10:09.360 would have never gone to hollywood i never would i never would have gone to college wouldn't have

00:10:12.300 gone to graduate school wouldn't have gotten in student loan debt would never pursued a career

00:10:16.340 as an actor at all so i would have done everything different had i known then what i know now

00:10:21.640 but you know it has given me it's made me who i am so i can't it all has worked out exactly right

00:10:28.540 but i've i've definitely it's been a sobering experience it was certainly a sobering experience

00:10:35.480 around 2017 or 18 when it really became clear that i had to leave los angeles and leave my career behind

00:10:45.380 because i didn't know what to do i mean i'd been orienting my life since i was four years old

00:10:50.320 towards being a professional actor and to know that that was no longer the path for me was scary

00:10:57.860 and it took me a little while to you know have the the balls to actually leave so

00:11:05.200 and yeah of course now looking back it's all very clear and i'm so really so happy to get out of there

00:11:11.980 but you know it was a it was a scary leap to make and good riddance i mean la is a la is a cesspool

00:11:19.040 it's a pit it's a pit of hell where the lost angels are so it's character building but

00:11:26.120 good riddance yeah i i remember you guys had a meeting with the comedy central right this was

00:11:32.060 years ago and they went through your videos and what did they say to you guys uh it was

00:11:38.100 we met with comedy central twice actually the first time and they rejected us both times obviously but

00:11:43.380 the first time they said it was too smart for comedy central those are exact words it was too

00:11:48.280 smart they want to dumb down dumb down comedy right just uh but look this is where this is this i think

00:11:54.220 it's a good snapshot of how things have changed in the last few years i mean we were pitching a joy

00:11:58.820 camp pilot all around hollywood in 2016 it's only a little over five years ago and it was almost picked

00:12:08.900 up but now because anything conspiracy is so demonized we would have no chance no i'm actually

00:12:16.100 really glad it didn't oops didn't get picked up when we were pitching it but the animosity and anger

00:12:23.080 and intolerance towards you know conspiratorial perspective has gotten so bad but a couple

00:12:30.840 years ago it wasn't i mean that that was when mr robot was the most popular show right i mean that's

00:12:35.200 when the guy was winning emmys for his role as a conspiracy theorist on tv and we were kind of trying

00:12:40.160 to ride those coattails uh and we almost did i mean we had meetings with the biggest agency in los

00:12:47.520 angeles william morris we were actually represented by them they were sending us out to meet with

00:12:52.200 people like comedy central and fx and mtv and tbs and they all watched our pilot which was

00:12:59.620 you know joy camp and they liked it and now try to get entertainment like that through i mean it's

00:13:06.020 just interesting to see how how things have changed so drastically in the last couple of years it almost

00:13:11.360 makes you wonder too and i hear i'm familiar with william morris too of course um if some of them

00:13:16.020 they're watching those videos and they're like oh shoot this is telling too much we know about these

00:13:20.180 things we can't have this come out right sometimes i wonder they wanted us to change who we what we

00:13:25.740 did and that was what always my concern i thought that if our show got picked up they would have

00:13:30.280 creative control and i no longer would which was a concern because i didn't want to you know i didn't

00:13:35.000 i had integrity uh so they kept wanting us to come back with more ideas they were like liked us

00:13:40.260 like the talent that we possessed and our ability to make good content but they thought

00:13:44.920 you know it could be utilized in another direction and i just wasn't interested in doing anything but

00:13:49.960 joy camp so ultimately didn't work and thank god it didn't but uh just a yeah weird weird times

00:13:58.080 yeah i lived there too and i had uh some interesting experiences to say the least and and one of the

00:14:04.840 biggest questions i got i know this is going to sound anti-semitic one of the biggest questions i

00:14:09.260 always got though when i worked in music and film production was are you jewish and uh had i have

00:14:14.680 been jewish i know that i would have been catapulted to the top and could have done anything i wanted

00:14:19.140 to do there you know but i i i saw things i saw how things run i saw how horrible a lot of these people

00:14:26.700 are there and i wanted nothing to do with it either and no desire to be there whatsoever it really

00:14:31.020 is a sick and deranged place and i'm surprised you turned out so grounded being born in la because a lot

00:14:35.820 there's people that come they're not born in la but then they come there and then they just get

00:14:40.100 chewed up and in every which way and spat out right but most people most people even if they achieve

00:14:46.600 like you know celebrity fame they get chewed up and spit out i mean it's a it's a brutal business

00:14:52.580 that has no heart i mean that's one of the things i really learned about hollywood is that it's soulless

00:14:59.600 it doesn't care about anybody and it's only there to serve and serve agendas i mean it's it's and

00:15:05.240 it took me a while to really accept that because i didn't want to accept it i wanted to think that

00:15:08.700 there was there could be some integrity within that business and there simply cannot now more

00:15:14.820 than ever you if you have a country a contrary opinion you will not be heard they will not let

00:15:22.220 you succeed so it is on lockdown it is only there to prop up you know agendas and propaganda

00:15:29.660 that's right perpetuate propaganda it's a propaganda machine now you come from hippie liberal parents so

00:15:35.660 i wanted to get your experience boomer hippie liberal parents this whole thing i saw your you do

00:15:41.340 a meme monday show which you have to tell us about that but you got into the in the beginning about joe

00:15:46.480 rogan versus some of these boomer hippies like uh neil young and joanie mitchell and they were

00:15:51.840 complaining right to spotify they wanted spotify to remove all his music because he's pushing vaccine

00:15:57.500 disinfo and all of that right and then they removed their music in protest which is just

00:16:02.760 completely cringe i don't know tell us about your thoughts on this oh man well i actually didn't

00:16:07.480 know that joanie mitchell was on that train oh there's a lot of them a lot of and a lot of

00:16:11.060 women she's like she's someone i've been you know always happy to say i have a birthday with that's

00:16:17.120 really sad not anymore surprising unfortunately um yeah what a mess i mean well the hippie movement

00:16:24.080 is another one of those things that it helped me kind of understand that you could be that how do

00:16:32.180 i say this i like the anti-establishment aspect of the 60s movement you know when i was a kid and my

00:16:39.180 dad was telling me stories about his time in berkeley and stuff and watching whatever movies documentaries

00:16:45.280 about the time and listening to the music i was really inspired by it and i was really inspired by

00:16:50.440 the anti-establishment aspect only to find out you know in my 20s that all most if not all of what

00:16:59.440 people experienced in that movement was also at least somewhat of a psychological operation

00:17:06.440 uh was also disheartening but you know a good paradigm to crush um but yeah i mean no wonder these

00:17:15.000 people are are are changing like this because they they've always been a part of again another

00:17:21.220 propaganda machine pop music that music all of that has been there in now i'm trying to not i don't

00:17:27.580 want to sound cynical but it's hard to be mainstream during any era and have again integrity and actually

00:17:37.040 be on the on the side of truth so those people have been i mean neil young has been a part of a

00:17:42.160 disinformation campaign since the 60s oh absolutely yeah and yeah they're all we're anti-establishment

00:17:51.040 but then they're being propped up by the man in the system and the hollywood machine and all that

00:17:56.460 and it is funny how back then you know they're woodstock it's a free speech it's a anti-war it's

00:18:02.740 all peace and love and then fast you know fighting against the man fast forward to today it's big pharma

00:18:07.900 censorship and throw them in prison because they don't want the vaccine i mean it's really that is

00:18:12.900 such a boomer thing right there you know yeah one of my favorite memes is this one that's uh it says

00:18:18.820 the old left versus the new left and on the the the old left it's a you know a volkswagen van with

00:18:25.300 hippies in it and it's saying pro free speech and no censorship damn the man and then the new left is

00:18:31.500 do everything you're told trust authority censor censorship is good all that and it's just like

00:18:37.440 these two you know this is what's happened that's right this is how they've controlled they just used

00:18:42.160 free speech you know as a as a weapon to destroy free speech because at the time they weren't in

00:18:48.060 control so oh free speech free speech and then once they get control they crush free speech you know

00:18:52.420 but i think joe rogan i just have to say i'm not a not a fan of joe rogan but he's making a hundred

00:18:57.420 million dollars for spotify's contract so and i heard that the artists are getting they have to

00:19:03.180 get 350 plays to make a dollar so i don't think they really care about some of those musicians

00:19:09.460 leaving honestly yeah i mean it's just we're just watching i mean i don't know can i say the word

00:19:17.680 shit yeah we're watching a shit show it's a shit show i feel like we're watching the collapse of

00:19:21.720 you know society we're just watching it the schism has been the covid's like the splinter and we're

00:19:28.240 seeing this fracture now and there's no going back the people are you're either in not to speak

00:19:35.440 generally but it's like you either are on the side of illogic which is trust authority no matter what

00:19:43.360 or you're thinking and that's where it and the the the bridge is hard to uh gap the gap is hard to

00:19:52.880 bridge and you can't you can't speak logically with people who are thinking illogically so we have

00:19:58.980 this disconnect it's very strange it's very strange and you teach a course that gets into that

00:20:05.800 so i wanted to kind of get into that about communication now it's called parheesia right now

00:20:10.260 tell us what the word parheesia means i had to look it up because i didn't know this word yeah

00:20:14.760 well at first i thought it was a bird because i kept seeing you a word years ago and it literally

00:20:20.160 means free speech it means to speak boldly or freely freedom of speech so that's why i fell in love with

00:20:27.760 it it's been lost from our lexicon it says a greek origin um but it's a beautiful word and i can see

00:20:35.080 why it's sort of been lost because it means freedom of speech um so yeah i mean i i i see the

00:20:43.400 the tactics at work divide and conquer i mean it is literally the oldest trick in the book

00:20:48.400 and i refuse to accept that i'm i can't talk to uh people anymore or have a different opinion than

00:20:57.080 someone anymore and not be able to get along still so i'm really trying to help people deal with

00:21:02.980 their fractured relationships and help people communicate more effectively with loved ones

00:21:10.200 or strangers or whoever who may be seeing things a little differently and how to handle yourself in

00:21:17.020 conversations or confrontations in a way that won't get you ostracized or labeled you know it's

00:21:24.820 fill in the blank conspiracy theorist alt-right crazy whatever how to avoid those landmines and

00:21:29.820 actually have a constructive conversation and it's no small task which is why i had to create a

00:21:34.440 a whole course about it but yeah it's been a it's been a really cool thing it's been going on for now

00:21:40.080 over a year and people really like it i'm in my third season and it's a it's a success now you got

00:21:47.000 to give us a little teaser you got to you got to share a few tips let's say someone has a family

00:21:51.220 member let's say they have liberal a hippie boomer parents and they want to have a conversation they're

00:21:56.120 they're more on our side of things they've woken up to things how do they even begin i mean because

00:22:00.180 that's a generational gap on top of it right and which is different probably than speaking to someone

00:22:04.220 in your generation i don't know but it's so it's so polarized and so difficult nowadays for me i've

00:22:10.180 just given up on on talking to a lot of people that are on the opposite side of the political

00:22:13.680 spectrum because i feel like it's beating a dead horse you know what i mean unless it's old friends

00:22:18.020 or family i think that that's that's more important you know you have something in common that you can

00:22:22.580 kind of get in there with but maybe you can share just a few tips for those people because there's

00:22:26.980 a lot of people that are in that situation well so this is where some of my very extensive acting

00:22:32.480 training has come in very handy because when you in acting school you learn that in order to make

00:22:38.320 a performance as a character believable you have to seem like you're that character you can't seem

00:22:43.900 like you're lying you have to be telling the truth but as a character so you have to understand

00:22:48.080 that character's motivations so your first job as an actor is to understand the intentions

00:22:53.220 of the person that you're playing understand what motivates them understand what their goals are

00:22:57.840 so i apply that to helping people in conversation understand your own motives first why are you saying

00:23:06.520 what you're saying what's it for what's your what's your goal what's your hope if you're gonna go to

00:23:11.700 you know thanksgiving dinner and try to talk about something controversial understand why

00:23:17.680 first so understand your own goals are you hoping to just stand up for truth no matter what are you

00:23:24.220 hoping to change their mind are you hoping that they'll just listen to you are you hoping they

00:23:28.180 won't think you're crazy like really understand what motivates you before you embark in some of

00:23:31.920 these difficult conversations and then once you're in it

00:23:36.820 once you're in it okay every every conversation every person is different so every encounter is

00:23:47.880 going to be slightly different and it's up to you to respond to what you're dealing with so

00:23:54.020 a lot of it is listening a lot of it is feeling the person out and a lot of it is just being subtle

00:24:01.080 and not too emotionally engaged because our emotions can get the better of us um and again

00:24:09.300 understand your motivation are you really trying to change their mind if that's your motivation to

00:24:14.180 change their mind about a topic you're probably going to be unsuccessful so maybe set a more realistic

00:24:19.360 intention i want to just mention something in a way that they can hear it that'll spark their interest

00:24:26.700 about this topic and then find your way in and you can find your way in with a person by appealing to

00:24:32.700 the victim nature in them we're dealing in a very victimized culture everyone feels like they're a

00:24:40.080 victim in some way that's your in like that's your in so enter through that point the victim part and

00:24:47.160 build a rapport get them to trust you show that you care about the same things this is a lot but it's

00:24:53.340 important build a rapport they have to know that they can trust you and not just think you're some

00:24:59.480 lunatic so establish trust establish rapport that you care about the same things then they're gonna be

00:25:08.100 more willing to hear what you have to say and then if you actually do say something that you know

00:25:15.700 is an idea that could lead to bigger understanding and they listen and they hear it and they don't reject

00:25:21.520 it outright immediately don't fire hose them with more this is this is like the hardest thing for

00:25:26.660 people people if someone gives them an inch they just avalanche all of their thoughts about

00:25:32.080 everything onto them without actually reading the room without letting it's letting themselves see how

00:25:38.580 it's landing you know it's it's a dance it's nuanced so anyway it's a lot i mean this is a 10 week

00:25:46.140 course oh yeah yeah oh yeah what what happens what happens if it turns ugly that you're in a

00:25:51.480 conversation with someone and let's say it's someone you know and it just a stranger you could

00:25:55.880 just walk away whatever i just i'm not gonna talk to you like someone that you know what if it turns

00:26:00.100 ugly that fire hose oh shit i you know pulled out the fire hose and this has gone bad no yeah you have

00:26:07.160 to be you have to be delicate especially when it comes to these issues that have been so

00:26:12.220 we they're they're they're polarizing they are and people are really they're willing to fight for

00:26:20.300 their ideas for their opinions and you have to be really delicate kids gloves and know that your facts

00:26:27.340 don't matter so it's a it's a really interesting time to try to bring perspective into a conversation

00:26:35.140 because there's a thousand landmines in between us uh so yeah i mean it's it's a lot but i think the

00:26:44.940 primary goal for me with the course is to get people feeling like they're representing themselves

00:26:52.160 well no matter what so no matter what the outcome of the encounter the conversation the confrontation

00:26:57.300 the presentation whatever it is they feel good about how they handle themselves and they're not walking

00:27:02.600 away thinking damn that could have gone better or i should have said this or oh if only you know

00:27:09.080 she had had this response and i could have said that you know so we don't think about how it could

00:27:13.860 have been different but we are feeling good about how we conducted ourselves and releasing expectation

00:27:21.200 yep i think too you you get into is it communicating boldly without self-doubt right freeing

00:27:27.220 freeing your speech and i have found that for me that has taken practice right and probably for you

00:27:32.380 too you just life practice right you become seasoned as you go and you go through experience and then

00:27:38.620 you're like oh that's who i am that's the seed of who i am that's uh this is my voice this is how i

00:27:45.140 speak i found my voice and it's a it's a journey so how do you help you know guide someone to they say i

00:27:51.480 want to find my voice i want to have confidence in the things that i am saying well again this is like

00:27:57.580 this is 10 weeks worth of tutelage but no for instance i actually tonight my class today i'm doing

00:28:04.080 a it's a whole presentation on self-doubt and how to handle it and basically making the point that

00:28:10.440 doubt is a killer fear is a killer and i think too many people get hung up on

00:28:20.780 trying to eradicate fear and self-doubt altogether and i think that's all i think that's an intention

00:28:28.120 a goal that is hard to reach and it can be so hard to reach that you give up on it so

00:28:35.760 the key is to

00:28:38.960 he's back let's see yeah like i said it's like a this is this is how rural we are it goes in a cycle

00:28:47.060 yes every now and then it pops out the pros and cons you were saying the key is and then you're

00:28:51.920 cut off figures of course well the key is to not let self-doubt get in your way of taking action

00:28:57.460 so even if you're nervous don't let the nerves keep you from doing the things you know you need

00:29:03.560 to do so i'm helping so with a self-doubt class like tonight i'm giving people tips on how to

00:29:08.980 take action in spite of themselves how to fake it till you make it essentially and to and the keys to

00:29:15.220 that are you know drawing on your own experience really start with your own experience what's a

00:29:21.980 time when you were so scared of a moment but you conquered it anyway and remember that because

00:29:27.820 you've already done this this isn't the first time you may have nerves will never go away but if you

00:29:33.040 get in the habit of being able to act in spite of yourself you may notice at some point the self-doubt

00:29:39.300 is gone but don't make self-conquering self-doubt the goal there's workarounds you know how to take

00:29:45.980 how to take nervous energy and turn it into real energy because it's all it is so how do you take

00:29:50.860 nerves and use them to your advantage um yeah and remember that every moment comes and goes the

00:29:59.860 the anxiety the regret is a worse feeling than having anxiety about a moment that's about to happen

00:30:11.360 so if you're nervous about the confrontation the conversation you're going to have or the thing

00:30:16.580 you that that's right in front of you that you're scared to do just know that if you don't do it the

00:30:21.300 regret is a worse feeling than the nervousness the self-doubt the anxiety you're feeling before the

00:30:28.280 moment and i contextualize it i mean i get people really thinking about their own successes already

00:30:33.980 because we've all we're all we're all still alive because of a certain level of success

00:30:37.960 so getting them feeling good about themselves really you know getting people to like shrug off

00:30:45.100 all the baggage that we build up over time and remember who they are yeah it's about also relaxing

00:30:51.720 and just kind of letting things go i think we're in a society now that i hear from so many people

00:30:56.800 have panic attacks and anxiety and it's just heightened with all these things going on i think

00:31:01.680 that they feel things real physical things but then there's you know spiritual things and then

00:31:05.900 who knows maybe 5g is even contributing but people are more anxious than ever and fearful and just they

00:31:11.700 can't it's hard for them to communicate and then they're on their devices all the time and it's these

00:31:15.920 twitter messages and so the art of communication has definitely been lost because people could just shout

00:31:21.440 and then delete and run away you know but what you were saying earlier about anxiety i think that

00:31:26.060 that's that's spoken true in my life from my experience too it's the the anxiety in the first few minutes

00:31:32.180 before something happens is worse than you actually doing the thing once you do it right it's kind of like

00:31:37.980 you have to play mind games with yourself because once you're actually in it it's not that bad it's

00:31:42.620 amazing how you you fear anxiety it's the craziest the movie version of reality the movie our imaginations

00:31:50.800 will make things far worse than they actually are yeah almost every single time you you get hung up

00:31:57.900 thinking about it and you visualize it and you watch it like a movie and you're terrified of that

00:32:02.440 outcome but then you actually go through it and you're like oh it wasn't so bad even if it was bad

00:32:05.620 you're like well it wasn't as bad as i thought it was gonna be um and that's life that's like

00:32:10.420 everything yeah and then the more you do it you kind of you you retrain your brain because i think

00:32:16.040 there's neural pathways that have to be reprogrammed once you're living in the state of fear and panic

00:32:21.120 and anxiety all the time which by the way uh are the people in control they love that because they

00:32:26.980 can manipulate that and steer you and you're in this fight or flight mode all the time and you're not

00:32:31.260 you're not thinking properly right yeah well even there you guys you have this smartphone addiction on

00:32:37.260 the screen he mentions you know social media and stuff i think social media is the reason why we

00:32:44.220 don't know how to communicate anymore i think that is the linchpin it's social media we have forgotten

00:32:48.260 how to communicate and talk to each other because of social media and i think the powers that be know

00:32:53.100 that i think is one of the reasons why we've been all geared towards you know typed messages you cannot

00:32:58.880 convey accurately an emotion in a type message you don't know you're you're also not experiencing

00:33:05.140 how you're saying is landing on the person you're not hearing them respond in real time

00:33:09.480 it's completely disjointed and it's disconnected us from each other we're more connected than ever

00:33:15.320 but we're more disconnected than ever and so the first thing i tell people if you're gonna have a

00:33:20.060 confrontation if you're gonna have a conversation a difficult conversation where you talk about a

00:33:24.100 difficult subject don't do it online don't ever do it online avoid online who's ever won an online

00:33:31.080 debate i mean i typed online debate that is you know it's it's you're just gonna waste your energy

00:33:37.220 and you're gonna end up not liking the person more too because you're not again you're not gonna have

00:33:40.720 the empathetic feel of a conversation yeah so get out from behind the screen and talk to the person in

00:33:46.280 real life yeah it's true we have all these new problems now because before it used to be i even

00:33:52.040 thinking in terms of you know republican and democrat used to be people could still go have

00:33:56.240 drinks together you have friends with different political views you can go go out and do things

00:34:00.740 it's really changed like since the you know the facebook's and the twitter's and and the media just

00:34:07.680 really just spinning things out of control it is so hard to just be friends with or have a conversation

00:34:13.780 with somebody who is your political opposite and i think actually it's people more like us that are

00:34:18.820 more willing to have those conversations and branch out and and be willing to just speak freely but i find

00:34:24.700 a lot of the times it's uh people on the other side of things they're the ones who are just unwilling

00:34:30.000 because they see you know articles like we were showing earlier like just don't talk to conspiracy

00:34:34.680 theorists or just don't talk to us so-called you know white supremacist or whatever insert whatever you

00:34:40.140 want there you know it's like they're encouraging people to not do any critical thinking and debate with

00:34:46.720 people or have free and open conversations i mean we're living in the time of censorship and banning

00:34:51.920 you don't like it just censor it or ban it and delete it and block it you know yeah so then how

00:34:58.060 about use your voice to find the people like you which is kind of the more important thing anyway

00:35:02.820 how do you use your utilize your voice in a way that draws the right people to you because i think

00:35:08.380 that's ultimately more important i mean like i said this this society is so fractured now

00:35:13.580 and certain powers at b are going to do everything they can to pull their plans through to the end

00:35:21.360 zone so we have to you know make plans accordingly and that comes from we solve problems by putting

00:35:29.540 our heads together so i think you know well there is a there is it is important to try to bridge the

00:35:35.700 gap between people you have established relationships and already love but use your voice in a way that

00:35:41.680 attracts people to you who live near you who are around you build a community have a support system

00:35:48.240 have a you know your own think tank where you can come up with solutions together and make the system

00:35:54.400 obsolete that's right yeah and you had a video you said who is they and it doesn't really matter who

00:36:01.740 they is that is fighting against you because the the solution is us right i mean i think it's good to

00:36:07.000 identify the captains but at the end of the day it's about uh just non-compliance and saying no

00:36:12.580 and realizing that we do need the those bigger collective numbers now i know people in our scene for a

00:36:18.460 long time you were like that too we were oh we can't be collectivists right uh for a long time we were

00:36:23.220 talking like that uh but the term it was it was shunned by by many of us but now we know that we need a lot

00:36:28.880 of good people to come as a collective or to collectivize to to have influence and power and

00:36:34.560 numbers right absolutely yeah and the more you are surrounded by people that are like you you know

00:36:43.240 not that you need to be on the same page with what every single thing with every person you're around

00:36:47.040 i think that actually gets kind of boring but when you're around people like you you don't feel so

00:36:52.560 alone you don't feel so crazy you feel motivated you feel sane again you feel like things are possible

00:36:57.480 it's good to have friends so using your voice in a way that can get you new friends and not just

00:37:05.800 hung up on the people that are taking the bait um is really important because those people taking

00:37:12.160 the bait while it's it's heartbreakingly frustrating man they're the low-hanging fruit like

00:37:18.620 they got it bad i mean blue being blue-pilled right now is a pretty horrific nightmarish scenario

00:37:24.920 and i don't envy them at all so i'm mad to an extent because it's their compliance that's sort

00:37:30.520 of perpetuating this nonsense but at the same time like they're in hell and i'm not and i'm very

00:37:37.620 grateful for that so i have to disagree with you on one thing i think it's a whole lot of fun hanging

00:37:42.840 out with people that think like us and i think it's very boring hanging out with people that don't

00:37:47.160 think like us every time i try and bring in some like you or i mean more like normie tier you know

00:37:53.560 i mean there's a there's different levels of you know things that we can have in common and stuff but

00:37:57.820 anytime i'm like sure i'll give it a shot i'll hang out with this normie person i'm always just bored

00:38:02.380 i'm like i don't need to do this i have so many friends that are cool to talk with you know

00:38:06.520 wait i'm sorry well who are you saying is or boring to hang out with oh people that don't think like

00:38:11.780 us we don't have anything i don't like hanging out with them either oh we're on the same page i

00:38:16.240 don't want to i mean that's the thing like have those conversations when you need to have them if

00:38:19.840 it's like your mom or your your son or your brother you know any of these relationships that you because

00:38:25.560 you care you don't want them to be swallowed up by the system um but to hang out with them oh i mean

00:38:31.200 come on that's not fun anymore i don't want to talk about garbage television or netflix or or the

00:38:38.440 or the latest variant omicron i'm pretty sure i just had that by the way and i'm still alive

00:38:44.420 still alive i wanted to play one of your videos uh about freedom because freedom is a conversation

00:38:49.680 that's been coming up a lot it's a good question many of us are asking like we didn't before

00:38:53.800 um people think freedom is like you know good old patriots and you know all that kind of stuff

00:38:58.740 but no we're we're rethinking what it means to be free these days but i want to play this uh good

00:39:03.220 little video that you made looks like you shot this in idaho true

00:39:07.660 is true freedom possible

00:39:18.220 if so how bad do you want it

00:39:24.080 would you work for it would you fight for it would you lay down your life for it

00:39:31.860 how important is freedom to you what if it meant throwing away your television forever never

00:39:44.480 watching another movie again what if it meant turning off your cell phone permanently not temporarily

00:39:52.840 from time to time or now and then could you sacrifice text messages could you move without

00:40:03.400 without gps could you give away everything you own or possess could you shut down your computer

00:40:13.960 and never turn it back on could you let go of your email and let it stay gone could you surrender free shipping

00:40:24.520 from amazon what if what if true freedom were contingent

00:40:35.080 upon you leaving the grid

00:40:37.640 saying goodbye to electricity and everything that it did once and for all and back to the land for going career

00:40:45.640 and a 401 plan would you do it would you go through with it how far would you go to be free

00:41:00.200 what is freedom is it having sex as much as you want with whoever whenever for fun or

00:41:08.200 or is it refraining and abstaining from sexual urges until marriage when flesh becomes one

00:41:18.680 is freedom doing whatever you please self-serving your interests for pleasure

00:41:24.200 or is it achieved through selflessly serving where deeds aren't rewarded with treasures

00:41:31.400 i'm honestly asking what freedom is and what does it mean to you is it government taxation or forced vaccination

00:41:44.360 or is it the freedom to choose

00:41:49.880 how do we untangle this knot that we're in how do we emerge from our fog of subjective morality despotic

00:41:58.200 brutality imbalance at home and abroad

00:42:05.240 freedom literally means not being enslaved by men women or ourselves

00:42:14.760 in my opinion opinions can enslave us habits and routines can as well allowances can devour us

00:42:25.000 us blind spots can bind us comforts can keep us in hell

00:42:34.760 so what is freedom and how bad do you want it what path are you willing to take

00:42:41.480 the one with the pavement and led street lights

00:42:45.080 or the uncertain one the dirt one that's narrow alongside the lake

00:42:54.360 it's funny many because even when you're being serious i still find you funny

00:43:04.760 even though i know i'm like yes this is all deep and this is good but i'm still i like i still chuckle

00:43:11.000 just cool i like that that was always one of my one of my strength as an actor too i mean when i was

00:43:16.200 doing theater for you know over 10 years of my life no matter what the role was i'd always be able

00:43:21.640 to get laughs whenever whatever character i was playing that's why well that's why i turned to

00:43:26.120 comedy i mean yeah i was a classically trained theater actor and then i ended up doing sketch comedy

00:43:30.600 so but yet what you say here is incredibly deep you know what is freedom and everyone is rethinking

00:43:37.400 that and everyone has different answers to that like you say too is it getting the vaccine isn't

00:43:42.920 being able to not get the vaccine you know what i mean it's just a it's a matter of who you ask

00:43:47.720 and a lot of times i wonder like if this planet is even meant to be you know just peace and love

00:43:53.400 and freedom it's it's hell a lot of the times and i think that's for a reason i think uh well one it's

00:43:59.800 about uh learning to overcome weaknesses and come as close to to the gauze as we can i think through

00:44:04.760 going through the the path right on the path through the fire but for me i was thinking about

00:44:09.640 this and what what is freedom for me and it's really just the simple things like to be left

00:44:13.320 alone to have my family and and do the work that i love and be with the friends that i love and and

00:44:18.760 just do the simple things without someone always wanting something from me or trying to control me

00:44:23.720 or trying to manipulate me or force me to do things i don't want to do you know right exactly well

00:44:30.040 that i mean that poem is an on it really is an honest contemplation of the word freedom and

00:44:36.440 yeah i mean same thing for me i think that freedom for me is just being left alone like let me i'll be

00:44:44.520 let me figure it out myself and as long as i have a strong moral center and i know when i'm hurting

00:44:51.480 someone or helping someone uh i'll be you know i i don't need anyone else to make decisions for me

00:44:58.680 i think that's what freedom means to me being you know i like uh consent based reality

00:45:06.760 yeah exactly to me it's not uh i guess the patriot version i would say they they think freedom is uh

00:45:12.360 limited government and still being able to go to your football games without being vaccinated it's

00:45:17.080 a bit deeper for me on those questions you know i think for a lot of us well i know yeah there's a

00:45:23.720 exactly well that's why i'm posing the question because it's been it's on the line right now and

00:45:32.200 people have different interpretations and different ideas and different definitions and

00:45:35.640 i'm i've really been contemplating it well what is freedom what does it mean to me what does it mean

00:45:39.400 to you what is what is it i know that i don't want anyone else dictating my you know making decisions

00:45:48.280 that i can't make for myself or thinking that they have a better interest at heart like i don't

00:45:52.920 i'm not cool with that and it's a it's a dire time i've noticed a lot of people are realizing that

00:45:57.640 this all the stuff with the vaccine and the covet stuff we're seeing the trucker convoy which is

00:46:02.040 great like if we don't put our foot down now it's just going to get far worse and all and then we'll

00:46:07.640 be looking back and remember the freedoms that we had when we can sit and talk about blah blah blah you

00:46:12.280 know even that even that is going to be gone right yeah they're making it harder and harder i mean

00:46:18.680 it's there's no representation this is this is obviously the problem like there is no

00:46:25.160 representation uh from anyone who has a contradicting point of view in the mainstream

00:46:31.000 that just doesn't happen anymore you're not allowed to if you do you get demonized you're discredited you

00:46:35.400 are you know you're well you're treated like what they're trying to do with joe rogan like i i'm with

00:46:39.640 you i'm not the biggest fan of joe rogan but what's happening is obnoxious like he's he just had a it was

00:46:46.680 i think it's because of the malone interview right but yeah you're not allowed to have any

00:46:50.920 other point of view now i mean we're at a place now literally i was telling my friend on the phone

00:46:55.000 this today where i could tell if i got the if i got the vaccine and then the next day i had bell's

00:47:01.400 palsy and half my body and i were to tell somebody that who believes in the science and trusts the

00:47:07.080 science and believes the vaccine is a savior they wouldn't believe me they'd be like well it wasn't

00:47:12.120 the vaccine like no look look at my face it's it's hanging off it's hanging off my head i got

00:47:17.480 the vaccine yesterday they'd be like it's not the vaccine like that's where we're at people think

00:47:21.640 that omicron is not that bad because they have three vaccines like we're dealing with absolute

00:47:29.080 nonsense yeah i know what wild times and one of the things that all of us keep talking about

00:47:35.320 as we're seeing where this is going is a community building tribe building village

00:47:40.600 building your village an alternative um economy if you will write a parallel structure of some kind

00:47:47.320 just in case just in case things start getting bad well they already prepare for the worst they are

00:47:52.040 yeah exactly they already are getting bad and one of those things that's important is parenting and

00:47:57.320 raising kids which is very is very difficult in these in this day and age i look back and think of

00:48:02.920 when i grew up in portland oregon i was born in portland oregon and it was so different like i was a

00:48:07.720 teenager running around the streets with my older brother we could go to grunge shows and there wasn't

00:48:11.800 squatters and these like communists on the street killing cops and it's like man things have changed

00:48:17.240 so fast you know i worry about the future for our children and one of those things that's so important

00:48:21.400 right now is parenting a lot of people say oh it's bad times you shouldn't have kids no in bad times

00:48:26.040 it's when good people need to have a lot of kids i think in terms of also my my grandparents and

00:48:31.400 my great-grandparents you know fleeing the bolshevik revolution and stuff they did it with six seven

00:48:35.400 kids you know and some bad things happened to a couple of them but thank god that they had all

00:48:41.160 those kids that they did because then they're still alive today you know our generation continues

00:48:47.160 but thinking in terms of kids you have another baby on the way so how was the first one was it a

00:48:52.680 shock for you because everyone's always like i'm having my first baby and i know the first baby is

00:48:56.520 always more shocking and everyone always tells me once you add them on right this after the third

00:49:00.680 and the fourth is actually more shocking in the first but uh first of all i just want to say i

00:49:04.200 agree with everything you said i think that the if and i say this i i say this i've said this actually

00:49:10.920 in front of crowds when i've given performances about the significance of having kids and you know

00:49:15.720 not to say that having a kid is not for everybody so that's not what i'm saying but if people decide

00:49:21.880 to not have kids because they think the world is too messed up then i think they're playing right

00:49:27.480 into the hand of the enemy and the enemy has them exactly where they want them um because show me a

00:49:34.280 time when things aren't challenging i mean that's part of this experience i think is it's that you know

00:49:38.680 we have to persevere and there's always going to be evil there's always going to be adversity and we

00:49:42.760 have to you know work around it uh in spite of it so i'm all about having kids i i don't know how

00:49:51.640 many we'll have but we have one who's a year and a half and we have another one coming in april and

00:49:56.360 the first one was planned i mean we didn't know exactly when it would happen but we definitely were

00:50:02.360 open to it happening to our son being born and the second one was more of a shock but we are very

00:50:09.560 excited now and yeah i think having kids is one of the best defenses one of the best things you can do to

00:50:17.880 counter the agendas uh and yeah it's challenging and i think about it all the time i think about

00:50:28.440 what it means for me to have a kid and like the selflessness that it's sort of had to bring out in

00:50:33.560 me and i don't know i've been it's it feels like my story is now not as important as his story my son's

00:50:40.520 story and my uh my next son's story so it's it's been a real uh there's been growing pains i mean

00:50:47.160 i've been i've been forced to become more of a man in the past year and a half and that's a good thing

00:50:54.280 but it's also been hard it's it's been again it's a it's a it's a ongoing lesson in patience and

00:51:01.720 selflessness and yeah i mean taking it one day at a time and nothing holds up a mirror like getting

00:51:10.840 married and having kids it's a big mirror reflecting at you and you you see your your weaknesses you see

00:51:17.400 your strengths you know so if you really are on the the path if you will of you know self-development

00:51:24.360 having kids and having a family having a husband and a wife is definitely going to speed that along

00:51:30.040 you know but it's the most fulfilling i can't it makes so much sense to me like it's so obvious

00:51:34.920 that a kid needs a mother and a father you know and that's something that our society has definitely

00:51:40.520 tried to make it seem like is you know just to it can be that way but it also doesn't have to be that

00:51:45.800 way and it's actually maybe even better if it's not that way sometimes and it's ridiculous like i think

00:51:51.160 a healthy family is a mother and a father and kids and you because there's a balance the man has

00:51:58.360 certain strengths and the woman has certain strengths and certain things that the other

00:52:01.720 one can't do and provide and it creates this balance for the child that is necessary for their

00:52:10.280 development um yeah and i also i also don't understand how anyone would want to have a kid to

00:52:16.600 try to like save a relationship that to me was just seemed like a death sentence because it's a challenging

00:52:23.480 thing for a relationship i mean it's certainly you know it takes your relationship to the next level

00:52:29.400 to a place you can't even really fathom until you experience it and it really tests your teamwork

00:52:36.200 and tests your ability to navigate through surprising challenges that are popping up all the time and

00:52:44.120 it's uh i i couldn't have done it with anybody else like i had it had to be my wife who you're who you

00:52:51.080 know yeah it had to be her and it couldn't have been anyone else because i couldn't i wouldn't have

00:52:54.600 been able to handle it with anyone else it has to be your teammate and someone you really love

00:53:01.000 i mean with all your heart absolutely and i love her and you guys are definitely soulmates

00:53:07.080 the other thing it's made me realize i know we're going to wrap up here soon but traditionalism

00:53:10.840 and older times versus now i always say i think when we hear the word traditional or traditional

00:53:16.120 i always say in what era right are we talking about like pre-christian viking times are we

00:53:21.080 talking about 30s 40s 50s 60s 80s it's just it's very different and i think it kind of needs a little

00:53:27.560 bit of a tweaking or updating right now to to fit our current problems because not everyone has the

00:53:32.680 kind of luxuries that they had let's say like the 1950s housewife for instance we're dealing with new

00:53:37.960 battles and new stuff and new stresses and it's a harder time but the most important thing is having that

00:53:43.560 masculine and that that feminine that that's there for the family and you just kind of naturally fall

00:53:48.840 into some of those roles but it doesn't mean that benny isn't gonna cook a dinner sometimes because

00:53:52.600 i know you're a good cook right yeah there's about i mean yeah you you you scratch each other's bag you

00:53:58.360 pick up the slack for the other one sometimes and you find yourself in certain roles and it's okay to

00:54:05.000 not be so married to some of those every i don't know you know you find a flow and

00:54:09.400 yeah i mean i think that we're dealing with let me say how do i get this right progressivism like

00:54:18.280 that is the problem progressivism that the the the ideology of the mindset that everything always

00:54:26.040 needs to change because what's what is or what has been is flawed or outdated or whatever misogynistic

00:54:33.000 homophobic and we always be progressing towards the future which is really just a trick to think

00:54:38.600 trick people into uh wanting big government the government will solve all the problems of the

00:54:43.400 previous you know outdated situation nope it's up to us as you say well benny tell us about all your

00:54:51.560 websites and what you have going on and where people can find you and take your course and all that

00:54:56.280 sure well my course is called parhisia the art of communication it's actually in week one

00:55:01.960 right now like i'm i had my introductory prologue presentation last week in my first meet and greet

00:55:08.600 workshop with students but tonight's the first presentation so if someone's interested who's

00:55:13.400 listening uh you can go to the website that's on the screen right now and sign up just know that only

00:55:18.760 the standard tier the least expensive tier is still available and the other two are sold out but if

00:55:24.920 you want in now's a good time because we're just getting started and you won't be behind

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Radio 3Fourteen - February 01, 2022

Benny Wills - Leaving The City, Overcoming Fear, What Is Freedom？

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