Susan Kolb is a board-certified plastic surgeon and founding diplomat of the American Board of Integrative and Holistic Medicine. She is a specialist in plastic and reconstructive surgery and is extensively trained in holistic medicine. Her book, The Naked Truth About Breast Implants, From Harm to Healing, outlines the effects of chemical and biotoxicity related to breast implants, Dr. Kolb s treatment protocols, and a detailed history of the politics surrounding the breast implant controversy.
00:01:55.860We should not forget that we should nurture ourselves.
00:01:59.020Well, you have quite a story, graduating from med school at 24.
00:02:02.160Now you're a board-certified plastic surgeon and founding diplomat of the American Board of Integrative and Holistic Medicine.
00:02:07.780And in your book, you say you follow the path of the wounded healer.
00:02:10.460So let's begin with the events that steered you into becoming a holistic plastic surgeon.
00:02:14.420Well, basically, the first event that brought me on this path was I went with my family on vacation to Venice Beach, California,
00:02:24.860and I got this upper respiratory infection.
00:02:28.320I wasn't feeling well, so they went out, and I meditated, because a lot of times meditation helps raise your energy and helps you when you're ill.
00:02:36.380And in meditation, I heard very clearly to get Dow Corning silicone gel breast implants, which was odd, because we weren't using Dow Corning.
00:02:45.900We were actually using Mentor, a different form of breast implant.
00:02:50.460But because I was an active-duty major in the Air Force, and I could get free breast implants from my colleagues at Scott Air Force Base,
00:03:01.420so I flew to Scott Air Force Base and got the implants.
00:03:04.460And probably without the directive, I would not have done that.
00:03:08.500And because I listened specifically to the Dow Corning part, I ended up getting $25,000 from the Dow Corning settlement,
00:03:16.240which just wasn't available to the other manufacturers.
00:05:42.080So the next phase was when, in the early 90s, the FDA banned silicone except for, well, especially in primary augmentations or cosmetic procedures.
00:05:58.680So we switched to saline, and they had some valve problems.
00:06:03.920They had a posterior valve that didn't work well, and they have some other valve problems.
00:06:08.640But eventually, at least one company, Allergan, got a valve that was pretty good.
00:06:15.360So right now, probably the safest implant, in my opinion, would be a smooth shell.
00:06:23.640Textured are often associated with that lymphoma, that rare lymphoma.
00:06:27.740And they also flake off and get into the system and interact a lot more with the immune system.
00:06:31.860So I would avoid texturing, I would go with smooth saline, Allergan, because it has a better valve, and probably skip silicone gel unless you were a reconstruction.
00:06:45.160And the reason for that is if you're a reconstruction and you don't have much tissue, especially not much tissue after a mastectomy, saline can ripple and look very unnatural.
00:07:00.860So, yeah, I was reading there's 37 chemicals used in making the silicone implant gel.
00:07:09.100Yeah, that's what Dow Chemical and Dow Coining didn't want the doctors to know.
00:07:16.600There's a really, really good book that you should read, and your listeners should read, called The Dirt Committee.
00:07:21.440It's D-I-R-T, and it has to do with document, investigation, and retrieval something.
00:07:28.120But it basically was a committee within Dow Coining that was set up to destroy all of the documents that might be bad for the lawsuit, for the class action lawsuit.
00:07:40.360By the way, that Dow Coining class action lawsuit was the largest class action in history, just to give you an idea.
00:13:26.340Anyway, it means to go in, encounter the shell, dissect around the shell, and then try to get the whole thing out without rupturing it outside the shell.
00:13:35.540That doesn't work, by the way, if they have an extra capsule rupture because it's already ruptured through the cell.
00:13:39.920But we try to do this to prevent silicone from spilling.
00:13:45.400Then we'll make a small incision in the axilla and remove any silicone-laden abnormal lymph nodes.
00:13:52.240We don't do an axillary lymph node dissection, so there's not a risk of lymphedema.
00:13:57.640But we try to get out as much silicone as we can.
00:14:01.060And then the rest of it is gotten out through a silicone chemical and biotoxin detoxification protocol.
00:14:08.020This foreign body, by the way, is infected.
00:14:10.920It's infected with yeast, mold, and often bacteria.
00:14:14.760So we often have to treat with antibiotics and antifungals and do biotoxin detox because when you kill off a bunch of the fungus and the body can't get rid of the biotoxin, that's in about 25% of the population, then they get deathly ill.
00:14:31.140I mean, they won't die, but they feel like they're dying.
00:14:33.720Yeah, in your book, you told the story of a woman who had her implants removed and the saline water was actually black, which was consistent with fungus.
00:14:41.660Wow, I mean, that's pretty outrageous.
00:14:44.160I mean, what would your average plastic surgeon do if they saw that?
00:15:16.540If you're in, say, a hurricane and you evacuate and then you come back and sleep on a moldy mattress or in a moldy house, you'll breathe the mold in.
00:15:27.200And if it's a certain pathological mold, it'll get in your bloodstream and it lands on foreign bodies.
00:15:34.240There was an article in the British literature where mold was found both inside the implant.
00:15:40.480These are saline implants, not silicone.
00:16:07.180Yeah, you know, if a woman doesn't have a good support system, health insurance, a husband that just doesn't decide to divorce her because she doesn't work and she loses interest in sex because her testosterone is like nothing.
00:16:21.460I mean, one of the things that happens is your entire endocrine system gets wiped out.
00:16:25.220So you have thyroid problems, so you have your hair falling out, you're constipated, you have dry skin, you have a lack of ADH, which leads to you drinking and peeing all the time.
00:16:36.380And if it's bad enough, it can lead to retinal detachment and can also lead to you bleeding in surgery.
00:16:42.040And plenty of surgeons, very few surgeons know that you may have to give desmopressin during surgery to prevent bleeding if they're bleeding.
00:16:50.340I mean, if you see somebody bleeding like aspirin bleeding and they weren't on aspirin, then you need desmopressin in order to make it so you don't have a large blood loss and maybe a hematoma.
00:17:01.180So, and then the sex hormones go away.
00:17:05.300I went into a premature menopause, which makes it interesting now because I probably still have eggs.
00:18:12.360One of the cytokines is tumor necrosis factor.
00:18:14.920One of the reasons these women have so much chest wall pain is because of massive release of cytokines.
00:18:20.240When the macrophage, which is a cell that eats things, tries to eat the silicone, silicone's toxic, breaks open the macrophages, and there's high interleukin-2 tumor necrosis factor.
00:18:31.800So it's kind of weird, but there's less breast cancer.
00:18:35.180Oh, well, I was going to ask about that because some ladies, they go, you know, it's a cruel process.
00:18:39.920They remove their breast and then they put some other foreign body in there.
00:18:43.140I wondered if that was going to create cancer again, but I guess not.
00:19:28.920So do you think, speaking on a spiritual side, do you think that maybe also the health of the soul of a woman could be making symptoms worse
00:19:34.780and then she's developing this breast implant disease?
00:19:37.480Well, I think more than anything, the pattern that I see is that women, the small, still voice,
00:19:48.000which is probably most likely coming from the soul or guides or angels, is telling them not to get breast implants.
00:20:32.360You know, I mean, if you look at people that ride motorcycles, you know, there's some really bad things that happen to people on motorcycles
00:20:40.020because people in cars don't see them.
00:20:41.680And they really get to use their intuition a lot.
00:21:56.920So, you know, but, you know, I obviously got that disease so that I wouldn't, my breast buds would get radiated so that I would get implants
00:22:06.440because I don't think I would have just without having no breasts.
00:22:10.000And, you know, I think my path is that of helping discover what this disease is, how you treat it, how you prevent it,
00:22:21.400and, you know, being the voice that women need to hear to get well.
00:22:28.020Other doctors really don't have a clue about this.
00:22:30.880And the only doctors that might be able to understand it would be integrative holistic physicians who were certified in that branch of medicine.
00:22:40.000Because they're the only ones that understand functional medicine, detoxification, and toxicology, you know, how things are poisoned.
00:22:50.700You know, I do radio shows similar to what you do, and I interview a lot of toxicologists, rheumatologists, you know,
00:22:58.540environmental doctors who are experts on mold, and all of these things.
00:23:03.580Because I wouldn't have been able to write the book without the input from all of these various subspecialists.
00:23:11.960Well, it's also interesting because it seems like candida is really taking over and all these other bacterial infections just in humanity at large.
00:23:19.960I don't know if it's the diet, the environmental stressors, but something's going on.
00:23:24.500I think we have an immune issue, and I personally believe it's from the GMO.
00:23:34.360I believe that especially soy GMO depresses the immune system because I saw it do that myself and some other people.
00:23:40.300I think the majority of soy is GMO, so be careful ordering soy, you know, at the Chinese restaurant.
00:23:50.500Now, if you go to Whole Foods, and you can be pretty sure that, although Whole Foods recently said they can't guarantee that there won't be GMO in their foods, which is interesting and true.
00:24:01.680So, you know, I understand why they said that, but, you know, if you had a source of soy that was not GMO, then I wouldn't be opposed to it.
00:24:11.060But if you're drinking soy milk, you might want to instead drink almond milk.
00:24:17.240Almond milk has small doses of cyanide in it.
00:24:24.320Almond milk will probably start killing cancer cells in your body, you know, the stray cancer cells, and soy will not, you know, as you know, soy can depress your thyroid.
00:24:34.840So if you have hypothyroidism, subclinical hypothyroidism, which a huge number of people seem to have, probably from the plastics acting as endocrine disruptors.
00:24:47.180So soy is not necessarily your friend if you have these things.
00:24:54.800So also, most likely, there must be a chemical reaction happening with the chemicals we use in and on our bodies and around us and the environment, creating some kind of new monster diseases that are unclassified by modern medicine, wouldn't you say?
00:25:07.860Yeah, you would be surprised how much silicone is in, like, fabric softener, skin care products.
00:25:58.880And actually, you need to avoid plastics in general, especially heated or frozen plastics, because that can also be an endocrine disruptor.
00:26:25.900I've had a number of patients working in an enclosed space spraying things, and they didn't realize that they really should read the bottle that says don't use an enclosed space.
00:26:34.840And silicon was in the spray, and, of course, they breathed it in and got, you know, some pulmonary complications.
00:26:44.500So how do you find out if someone is struggling with biotoxins?
00:26:50.900We use a visual contrast sensitivity test, which is an eye test that is really very, as long as you don't have something wrong with your eye, like you're blind in an eye or something, is very sensitive test.
00:27:03.120If a woman only has mold in her left breast implant, only her left eye will be abnormal.
00:27:22.220She had silicone implants that her visual contrast sensitivity was normal.
00:27:28.000She had really amazing neurological symptoms that were just really flagrant neurological symptoms and very debilitating.
00:27:35.940And on cursory view, you might think they're biotoxin symptoms, but with a normal visual contrast sensitivity test, and it's actually silicone, not saline, I started asking her about aspartame.
00:27:48.080She denied using aspartame, but I said, there's something you're doing every day.
00:28:25.060Well, the silicone and also the biofilm gets into the capsule, the scar tissue around.
00:28:32.480And so, and if you leave it in, it can get fluid in it, and it can cause all sorts of problems.
00:28:38.660The peer-reviewed literature and the plastic surgery literature recommends taking it out because of all these complications that can occur if you leave it in.
00:28:52.960So we really think that it's important to get the scar tissue out.
00:28:57.280And so that, not all surgeons take it out.
00:29:00.620And so a lot of people end up having two surgeries.
00:29:04.100And if your surgeon isn't treating with antifungals around the time of surgery, they don't understand the disease you have because everybody has either yeast or mold that needs to be treated.
00:29:14.460It's a big part of what the illness is.
00:30:21.960Now, tell us about Morgellons disease in patients with silicone implant disease.
00:30:28.500Well, Morgellons, I've found five of my patients with Morgellons who are eating a lot of lunch meat, like lunch meat every day.
00:30:35.960And Dr. Hildegard Stanninger, who's a toxicologist, had discovered that the fibers coming out of the Morgellons patients were silicone and high-density polyethylene.
00:30:47.900And the lunch meats were being sprayed with high-density polyethylene.
00:30:50.640So this is an example of eating, well, eating one plastic and having another plastic in your body because your implants are ruptured,
00:30:58.120and then possibly causing a problem that could lead to fibers coming out of your body.
00:44:56.540I don't remember his name, but the book is 2012 Create Your Own Shift.
00:45:01.580And it was very interesting information from all sorts of venues on what the ascension is and what the changes are that we're going through now.
00:45:14.160And I just think we're in a very unique time period where a lot of the deceit and deception and secrets and all of the negative things are going to be revealed.
00:45:28.940I think they're going to come to light.
00:45:31.160I think the people are going to wake up and understand things that they never understood before.
00:45:37.620And I even see a time when the mainstream media comes out from underneath its grip from the powers that be.
00:45:46.540I think that things are going to get a lot better and people are going to get a lot smarter.
00:45:53.740But we have to protect our energy field because all these things are chipping away at it.
00:45:58.100It's like if we're multidimensional beings, that first part right here needs to be whole to make the rest of it function, don't you think?
00:46:05.180True, but I think that with the energies coming in from the Galactic Center and with some of the things that your guests and my guests teach you about your energy field, I think we can do that.
00:46:58.660This is edited by Stephanie Marone and published by Dawson Church, who you may have interviewed as well.
00:47:06.360And it's a book about being optimistic.
00:47:10.040And I think that that is a great book to read whenever you feel yourself being sucked down the negative energy funnel, which many of us might be.
00:48:06.960Tell us more about what you were working on.
00:48:09.780Well, I was reading Matrix Deciphered.
00:48:13.260And it's an expose by a former CIA and DARPA contractor who claims that, I think, in 2004, 2005, he was actually – they tried to knock him off.
00:48:32.400And how they did it, what he – because he was an insider, he had a lot of inside information about what was going on.
00:48:39.460And so that's something that you can – it's a little light reading.
00:48:45.680So – but it gives you an idea of what's possible and how prevalent it might be that the agencies or at least some individuals and agencies are misusing the power.
00:49:02.060And then you have people now saying that maybe there are some whistleblowers that are put there to actually distract the alternative media movement.
00:49:19.920And I never really understood Stephen's statement that many of the alien abductions were actually done by the CIA until I read Matrix Deciphered.
00:49:30.740And then I got the mechanism by which they were done.