Radio 3Fourteen - December 08, 2017


Dear Cucks_ Only One Kind of Nationalism Will Save the West


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Lauren Rose ( ) and Faith Goldie ( ) join host Lana to discuss why nationalism has failed, and what kind of nationalism should be in its place. Plus, a look at what it means to be a conservative red-pilled millennial.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Lana, and joining me is Lauren Rose, who's only 19 years old, which is really
00:00:19.560 impressive, and former rebel journalist Faith Goldie, who was fired after attending the
00:00:24.500 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.
00:00:26.840 Yes, we'll talk about it.
00:00:28.160 And since there's been a wave of popular voices denouncing civic nationalism, we'll discuss
00:00:33.140 how it's failed and what kind of nationalism should be in its place.
00:00:36.940 So stick around.
00:00:38.240 Lauren Rose, Faith Goldie, thanks for coming on the program.
00:00:41.440 We'll say hi to you, Lauren, first, since you're brand new to most people.
00:00:45.200 Hi, thank you so much, Lana, for having me.
00:00:46.880 I'm a big fan of the show, and it's great to be here with you and Faith today, and I'm excited
00:00:50.280 for our talk.
00:00:51.760 Me too.
00:00:52.080 It's going to be a good one.
00:00:52.760 And hello, Faith.
00:00:53.860 Nice to meet you.
00:00:54.300 It feels like I've already known you for a long time for some reason.
00:00:56.760 I know, I'm like fangirling a little bit.
00:00:58.920 I guess it's like, people are like, I feel like I know you.
00:01:01.400 I've watched your stuff before.
00:01:02.980 Hi, I'm Faith.
00:01:04.240 So it's great to be here.
00:01:05.760 Thanks for having me on.
00:01:06.800 Now, I was saying, off the record, if Wikipedia is correct, you are part Ukrainian and Italian,
00:01:12.360 correct?
00:01:13.140 I'm Greek and Ukrainian.
00:01:14.320 Oh, Greek and Ukrainian.
00:01:15.180 Okay, I can definitely see that, actually.
00:01:18.140 Yeah, I say that I'm Ukrainian during the year, because I go to Ukrainian church, and
00:01:22.520 I'm Greek during the summers, because I oftentimes travel to Greece, but I've stopped that in
00:01:26.960 recent years, because it's just turned into a giant Afghanistan. 0.98
00:01:30.660 Yes, it has, unfortunately.
00:01:33.040 Yeah, you have the Eastern European bone structure, and then a little bit of the coloring of Greek,
00:01:38.580 so you really are a perfect blend.
00:01:40.020 And what about you, Lauren?
00:01:40.860 What's your background?
00:01:41.660 What's your ethnicity, if you will?
00:01:43.540 As far as I know, I am Irish, Anglo, and German.
00:01:47.220 Probably about 50% Irish, though, and then the rest is split between that Anglo-Germanic.
00:01:52.320 I'm not really sure about the details there.
00:01:54.200 Well, you have those great cheekbones.
00:01:55.600 I love your cheekbones, by the way.
00:01:57.200 Super cute.
00:01:58.300 Now, of course, all the guys are going to want to know, are you ladies spoken for? 1.00
00:02:02.020 I think you're both engaged, correct?
00:02:04.820 I am.
00:02:05.620 Yeah.
00:02:06.380 I am actually single, so...
00:02:08.080 Oh, okay.
00:02:08.740 Okay, okay, well, then it was some guy who wants to be engaged to you, because he was
00:02:12.680 writing me about you and saying, she's my fiancé, we're going to have 10 kids, so, okay.
00:02:17.320 Not really.
00:02:18.760 That was a mean line, good for you.
00:02:20.980 I was trolled, I fell for it.
00:02:22.460 Yeah, I get some email proposals, but I haven't gotten one good enough yet, so they just got
00:02:25.460 to keep trying, I guess.
00:02:27.560 Now, Lauren, you're only 19, so tell us, really, what inspired you to start making YouTube
00:02:31.800 videos and speaking about nationalism?
00:02:33.900 Well, I actually started out not as a nationalist.
00:02:39.360 I was sort of this center libertarian in high school.
00:02:43.620 I sort of went with the flow of everything that was regarded as acceptable opinions in
00:02:49.360 my school at the time.
00:02:50.260 But then I moved to New York City about two years ago now, and that's when everything
00:02:54.080 started to change.
00:02:55.000 There was a huge sort of culture shock, demographic shock, for sure.
00:02:59.800 I grew up in a mostly white neighborhood, white community, so seeing the diversity here
00:03:04.460 and experiencing the joys of diversity firsthand played a major role in red-pilling me, and
00:03:10.780 ever since then, the past two years, I've just been reading, learning, following nationalists,
00:03:15.540 and it's just sort of escalated since that point.
00:03:17.940 And once you get into it, you sort of can't get out.
00:03:20.480 As they say, there's no return.
00:03:22.320 There's no going back.
00:03:23.500 And that's what led me here.
00:03:24.900 It's true.
00:03:25.480 A lot of people are red-pilled by life, as they say, through experience.
00:03:28.820 Now, Faith, have you always been a conservative, or what's your background?
00:03:32.500 No, I was a crypto-Marxist in my teenage years, and then I grew up.
00:03:38.400 No, my mom revealed herself to be a hardcore right-winger, but she believed in critical
00:03:43.300 thinking and free thinking, and so she just provided me with alternate arguments.
00:03:47.380 But when I saw my best friend, my role model, my confidant being a conservative, well, then
00:03:53.300 it opened up the whole can of worms that conservatives are people to, because the left is such a great
00:03:58.040 job of dehumanizing the right, that when I was forced to deal with the most human person
00:04:02.140 in my life being a right-winger, then all of a sudden I started listening to them and
00:04:05.780 not just responding with tropes and jingles and platitudes, if you will, and began engaging
00:04:10.400 in serious debate.
00:04:11.460 And then I realized that their arguments were better than mine.
00:04:13.940 And so I went from kind of this amazing evolution of, I never went through the libertarian phase,
00:04:19.740 but really a social conservative was actually where I went to.
00:04:24.180 And from there, in my journalistic profession, I've always been obsessed with the idea of immigration,
00:04:32.460 partially because I have people who've worked in immigration in my family.
00:04:36.200 And I've done everything from investigative reports to just cultural commentary.
00:04:40.060 And then after Charlottesville, I basically was dealt a hand of cards where everyone said,
00:04:46.660 Faith, you're this, that, and the other thing.
00:04:48.060 And I thought, well, no better time.
00:04:49.740 I got nothing to lose.
00:04:50.540 I'm just going to be myself and say what I mean and mean what I say.
00:04:54.220 And you'll become more popular than ever when you just rip off those shackles and you just
00:04:58.160 let loose, you know, the universe and the truth will reward you.
00:05:01.920 So yeah, Faith, you brought it up.
00:05:03.780 I have to ask, you were let go, I think, from Rebel because you attended, you know,
00:05:08.480 Unite the Right, Charlottesville, you were interviewed by a certain podcast.
00:05:12.800 And I have to say, no offense to this podcast, but I've never heard of them.
00:05:15.820 I have no idea who they are.
00:05:17.200 A lot of us don't know.
00:05:18.340 So tell us what happened.
00:05:20.820 Yeah, so I had never heard of them before that day either.
00:05:24.160 And basically, I was on the ground.
00:05:26.220 I went there against my boss's wishes because I believed it was going to be the biggest national
00:05:31.340 story.
00:05:31.920 And I was wrong.
00:05:32.780 It was the biggest international story of the weekend.
00:05:35.220 I mean, I don't know if you can use the C-U-C-K word on this station. 1.00
00:05:38.960 Can I do that?
00:05:40.300 It cucked North Korea for headlines.
00:05:43.180 OK, so so it was indeed a massive story.
00:05:47.080 And I was there just covering it, periscoping, doing my thing.
00:05:50.360 And I what I noticed was that there was two sets of laws, one for right wingers and one
00:05:55.600 for left wingers on the streets of Charlottesville that day.
00:05:58.080 And so far as the Unite the Right folks, love them or hate them, were disallowed from hosting
00:06:04.140 an event that they were not only constitutionally allowed to have, permitted to have, but also
00:06:08.360 had a court injunction upholding all of those rights and freedoms.
00:06:12.780 And all that was shut down.
00:06:14.280 But then the footage that you're showing right here, lefties could get together and not a
00:06:18.860 single officer was to be found.
00:06:20.220 And of course, I captured just by by circumstance at the the the horrific attack on the streets
00:06:28.580 that day.
00:06:29.200 And my cameras just sort of followed my eyes.
00:06:31.960 And it became, I think, probably one of the clearest pictures of of the attack from that
00:06:37.740 day.
00:06:38.020 And and so I was talking to everyone that would hear me in the wake of the events of Charlottesville
00:06:45.420 that day.
00:06:46.060 I was I would talk to anyone.
00:06:48.200 And so when the crypto report asked me to come on and relay what I had experienced, of
00:06:52.960 course, for sure.
00:06:54.100 I mean, I was in the thick of it.
00:06:55.220 And so I did that just thinking to myself, I knew it was an edgier podcast.
00:06:59.340 I didn't think much else besides the fact that, hey, so long as I don't say anything that's 0.91
00:07:05.620 stupid or troublesome and I just go there and do my job, which is telling people what I 0.95
00:07:10.680 think and what I saw, then I'll be good. 0.99
00:07:13.320 But I was wrong.
00:07:14.360 I was wrong.
00:07:15.040 Apparently, who you talk to is incriminating enough.
00:07:18.240 So, yeah.
00:07:19.440 Well, the thing is, as a journalist, a good journalist does talk to everybody, right?
00:07:24.860 Yeah.
00:07:25.360 Nothing should be off limits and no one should be off limits.
00:07:29.300 Yeah, I agree.
00:07:30.400 And that's that's I still hold that today.
00:07:32.360 I do not apologize for for what I did from a professional standpoint.
00:07:37.180 It was completely in line with the way that I have always played my cards.
00:07:40.900 I've been called every name under the book, right from homophobic, transphobic, Islamophobic. 0.96
00:07:46.360 Now, you know, white supremacist, neo-Nazi are just the next evolution.
00:07:49.960 But from a personal standpoint, I don't take any of it back because it has been one of the
00:07:54.320 most fantastic evolutions from a personal standpoint when it comes to my own fortitude.
00:08:03.280 And it's just helped me clarify what I think, what I believe and how committed I am to truth,
00:08:11.200 even in the face of whatever anyone wants to call me.
00:08:15.440 Yeah, well, you were the best thing at Rebel.
00:08:18.220 So, you know, their loss, their loss, their tanking hard now.
00:08:21.860 And of course, you were also disinvited from a, yes, a free speech rally.
00:08:27.580 So what went or not a rally, but it was a panel, right?
00:08:30.100 It was a panel at some university.
00:08:31.740 So what went through your head then when you were disinvited?
00:08:35.340 I thought this is a bit meta.
00:08:38.040 We're having a free speech rally.
00:08:40.600 And because I didn't use my speech in a way that suited the sensibilities of those who were
00:08:46.960 otherwise on the panel, I was disinvited.
00:08:49.780 So I still love folks there, Jordan B. Peterson, Gad Saad, Dr. Orin Amitay.
00:08:54.780 They all do great work, as is Rebel for that matter.
00:08:57.640 But, you know, they saw me as too hot a property, as JVP said.
00:09:03.420 And so they disinvited me.
00:09:06.060 But it wasn't lost on our audiences whatsoever, of which we have a large center part of the
00:09:10.900 Venn diagram, Jordan B. Peterson, whether he likes it or not.
00:09:13.580 Some of our audience is indeed shared.
00:09:15.200 And I think for them, they thought, well, this is a bit too much pragmatism and not enough
00:09:19.660 principle.
00:09:20.360 And why the hell are we here if not for the principles that we apparently share?
00:09:23.640 And I think Jordan's complaint was that you didn't ask them certain questions and you
00:09:28.640 weren't hard enough.
00:09:29.960 So I would ask them, OK, what questions would have made it OK that she should have asked?
00:09:35.000 And how should she have acted with them to make it OK in their eyes?
00:09:39.280 And also, I was the one who was being questioned.
00:09:41.680 And I don't go around counter signaling everyone.
00:09:44.820 I actually want to get involved in debate.
00:09:47.460 You can sit here and we can start off the conversation.
00:09:49.880 You say, Faith, you said this that we discovered.
00:09:51.680 We're just going to waste time.
00:09:53.120 Let's talk about what we want to.
00:09:54.460 Let's get involved in debate now.
00:09:56.360 And like I said, I talked to the Crypto Report.
00:09:59.300 I'm talking to Red Eyes.
00:10:00.140 Hell, I'll talk to Antifa.
00:10:01.680 They'll have me on.
00:10:02.620 You know, I'm seriously interested in sharing my worldview, my research, my experience and
00:10:08.480 hearing others.
00:10:09.400 And then maybe I'm wrong on certain issues.
00:10:11.740 But, you know, I'm working through them in my head.
00:10:13.800 I'm happy to hear other opinions and I'm happy to share them with whomever will hear me.
00:10:18.120 Yeah, it's good to get out of your comfort zone, too.
00:10:19.880 You don't want to just be an echo chamber all the time.
00:10:21.700 You have to talk to other people and kind of sharpen your argument a little bit.
00:10:25.280 And, yeah, sometimes you're going to have commonalities with people that seem a little
00:10:29.200 spooky.
00:10:29.820 You know, I'm sure you might have something in common with some serial killer, too, you
00:10:33.180 know.
00:10:33.440 So, I mean, it's interesting with Daily Stormer, though.
00:10:36.540 I can't think of any other outlet like that has actually been censored off of the Internet.
00:10:43.180 I mean, can you guys, ladies, think of anyone else where this has happened to?
00:10:48.060 This might be a little bit grasping, but they're the Galileo of our time here.
00:10:54.260 They're the most censored outlet right now, which only increases, frankly, their attractiveness.
00:11:02.220 It's a stress in effect, right?
00:11:03.640 Where the more that you've labeled them taboo and outside of the realm of what we should
00:11:08.100 be listening to, well, in today's politically correct climate, of course, there's going to
00:11:11.180 be a hunger and thirst for that taboo and more people are going to seek them out.
00:11:14.080 And I wouldn't doubt that England's numbers have probably gone up now since he's moved to
00:11:17.920 this other part of the Internet, you know, webosphere.
00:11:21.320 I'm sure that his numbers are doing even better for it.
00:11:25.000 Now, lately, there's been a good trend, you know, amongst YouTubers, friends, allies who
00:11:30.140 have been denouncing civic nationalism.
00:11:33.360 And you two ladies have been on board with that. 0.98
00:11:37.240 Molyneux actually came out.
00:11:38.680 He was realizing that demographics is everything for his goal of getting to a stateless society.
00:11:43.280 We have my friend Blonde in the belly of the beast. 1.00
00:11:45.920 Lots of people.
00:11:46.580 So I want to ask you two ladies, what does it mean first for people that are newcomers?
00:11:51.240 They have never heard this term.
00:11:52.320 What does it mean to be a civic nationalist?
00:11:54.960 Lauren, I'll start with you.
00:11:57.020 Well, first of all, I kind of want to, I have to neg civic nationalism a little bit because
00:12:01.020 I think it's really an oxymoron.
00:12:03.020 I think it should be called something rather like xenophilic nationalism.
00:12:06.780 It's really not nationalism at all.
00:12:08.380 And the oxymoron becomes more apparent when you treat it like that.
00:12:11.220 Civic nationalism perpetuates that it's okay to bring foreign people into your country 0.99
00:12:16.020 as long as there are a bunch of tolerant egalitarians.
00:12:18.840 That's how I see it personally.
00:12:21.380 It doesn't take anything else into consideration like religion, race, ethnic group.
00:12:26.860 As long as you're tolerant and have egalitarian values, that seems to be okay, which we obviously
00:12:31.420 see isn't working throughout Europe and the U.S. now as the demographics change.
00:12:35.140 And people see, well, people like Faith and I and Blonde and others who are making this
00:12:39.080 jump, that that is not the correct answer, that demographics matter.
00:12:43.040 When you replace the founding stock of a nation, you replace the entire nation.
00:12:47.120 And nationalists, what we want to do is preserve our homelands, preserve the nation.
00:12:52.480 Absolutely.
00:12:53.080 Faith?
00:12:53.980 Yeah.
00:12:54.600 So I've actually extracted a quote, if you don't mind, and you'll indulge me for a moment,
00:12:58.460 because one of the leading thinkers when it came to popularizing this concept of civic
00:13:03.040 nationalism was actually Michael Ignatius, a Canadian who ran for prime minister in this
00:13:08.040 country.
00:13:08.320 I want to quote him on what civic nationalism is, and then your audience and the world can
00:13:13.800 decide whether or not this is an achievable goal and indeed what we're seeing play out
00:13:17.760 in these civic nationalist experiment petri dish countries like my own home country of
00:13:23.260 Canada.
00:13:23.960 It is a community of equal, rights-bearing citizens, united in patriotic attachment to a
00:13:30.320 shared set of political practices and values.
00:13:33.880 So we're all about values over here.
00:13:35.620 So one more time, it's a community of equal.
00:13:38.560 Is it really equal, or are some people more equal than others?
00:13:41.660 Think about things like affirmative action.
00:13:43.560 Think about things like anti-discrimination laws, which say that myself as a European-Canadian,
00:13:49.060 this is how I'm to operate my business.
00:13:51.520 This is how I am to rent out my property.
00:13:53.800 Rights-bearing citizens, united in patriotic attachment.
00:13:57.400 Are we all about the same patriotic attachment?
00:14:00.500 Because I like that statue over there.
00:14:02.400 But some other groups don't like it.
00:14:04.500 And a shared set of political practices, well, Sharia law is coming to my country, quite literally. 0.63
00:14:09.380 It's been ushered in the federal legislature.
00:14:11.160 And values.
00:14:12.200 What the hell values do we have in these multi-culti, civic-nationalistic experiments?
00:14:18.420 We can't agree anymore, because that's a byproduct of the cultural Marxism and cultural relativism
00:14:24.120 that we've ushered in at the same time, saying that we're all about this civic nationalism.
00:14:28.320 For me, the idea of having values without an identity is incongruent.
00:14:35.640 It cannot happen.
00:14:36.900 And imbued into all of this debate about this civic nation is the question of immigration.
00:14:43.280 And when you're looking at the question of immigration, you have to ask yourself, how can this work?
00:14:48.280 Only one answer.
00:14:49.400 It's assimilation. 0.62
00:14:50.760 And so how are you going to achieve assimilation?
00:14:52.720 You have to ask yourself two questions.
00:14:54.340 Who are we bringing in?
00:14:56.220 And more and more than ever, we're bringing more and more people from non-traditional sources
00:15:00.680 of immigration.
00:15:01.780 And number two, what are we asking them to assimilate to?
00:15:04.700 In post-1965 America, post-1965 Canada, we can't answer that question anymore, because
00:15:10.640 we don't have a moral civic consensus anymore.
00:15:14.240 We don't have a cultural consensus anymore.
00:15:17.040 So this is a doomed cultural experiment.
00:15:20.300 And when you look at the civic nationalism, well, why did we invent this?
00:15:25.600 Why did we invent this?
00:15:26.580 It was an answer to ethno-nationalism.
00:15:28.960 And I don't care what anyone thinks about ethno-nationalism.
00:15:31.840 You have not properly studied history unless you can accept the fact that throughout the 20th
00:15:37.060 century, more so than communism, more so than capitalism, more so than democracy, ethno-nationalism
00:15:43.500 was the greatest propeller of human history when determining the maker or breaker of empire,
00:15:51.080 of civilization.
00:15:52.360 This is what rallies men and gets them moving it.
00:15:54.420 Even in these civic nationalistic little petri dishes, guess what's happened?
00:15:59.720 There's a balkanization that's occurring.
00:16:01.540 These ethnic lines are already forming.
00:16:03.840 Otherwise, why would BLM exist?
00:16:06.000 Why is there a Chinatown? 1.00
00:16:07.400 Why is there a little Arabia in my own hometown? 1.00
00:16:10.480 The cultural enclaves, this balkanization is already happening.
00:16:14.300 And so it is a natural tribal instinct for human communities to go with their own.
00:16:20.960 So the question is, are we going to continue to work against nature and try to rise above
00:16:27.120 it, even though we're 40, 50, 60 years into this experiment and those partitions are only
00:16:31.540 becoming more distinguished and identifiable?
00:16:35.100 Or are we going to say, maybe it's time to disaggregate?
00:16:38.860 Maybe it's time that we reconsider how we've treated our borders to date.
00:16:42.640 Yep, that's right.
00:16:43.860 So if you can summarize that, you know, civic nationalists, they think that all these very
00:16:47.800 diverse groups of people from all around the world can come and be united by these abstract
00:16:52.340 ideas or something like the Constitution, and that they'll never align based on any ethnic
00:16:58.500 loyalties or have any ethnic interests.
00:17:00.760 And as we've seen, it's a complete failure.
00:17:02.720 Because if you look at Canada and America before 1965, when the demographics was mostly
00:17:07.720 European, we didn't have the kind of division that we have now.
00:17:11.340 So when people say people like us are trying to divide everyone, no, it's actually the other
00:17:15.460 way around.
00:17:16.060 It's these globalists who have divided us.
00:17:18.240 We were actually quite unified before this happened.
00:17:21.380 But I think it's really funny that a lot of these civic nationalists that we hear popping
00:17:24.920 up that they claim to be more on the right side.
00:17:27.440 It's only white people talking like that.
00:17:29.060 Sure, you might have a few, you know, blacks or Latinos here and there, but it's like 0.79
00:17:32.260 it's a white ideal.
00:17:34.200 You know, what's going to happen when they're a minority? 1.00
00:17:36.540 And they're, seriously, you know?
00:17:38.200 I know.
00:17:38.620 I think they're so right.
00:17:39.760 So, so, I'm sorry, Lauren.
00:17:41.140 Go ahead.
00:17:42.280 No, it's okay.
00:17:43.820 Because I'm going to jump in on something.
00:17:45.500 Yeah, perfect.
00:17:45.900 So, so with respect to it, if I understand your argument correctly, that basically white,
00:17:50.400 you know, pencil necks are the ones who are pushing this idea of civic nationalism, correct?
00:17:55.480 Yeah.
00:17:56.080 Right.
00:17:56.420 So in Coming Apart, a great Charles Murray book, he talks about this establishment of
00:18:01.300 almost like this, this high IQ, upper echelon of society superclass with the way that basically
00:18:08.960 marital patterns have worked out among the well-educated class in America.
00:18:14.400 It's led to high IQ, now marrying high IQ. 0.76
00:18:17.320 You don't just have the high IQ man that is only now marrying the beautiful girl next door
00:18:21.820 or whatever.
00:18:22.220 He's going to marry another lawyer within his legal practice, what have you.
00:18:25.940 And so what this has done is it's created households within the super elite where people
00:18:31.480 have very, very high IQ.
00:18:33.080 And based on Jordan B. Peterson's research, high IQ people tend to have a much higher characteristic
00:18:38.940 and personality trait of openness.
00:18:40.840 And so you see them being very open to these ideas, et cetera.
00:18:44.720 So it's so interesting because we are literally leading to our own demise.
00:18:48.800 If you couple this with the enlightenment value of individualism, et cetera, we literally are
00:18:55.100 committing suicide, deaths of despair.
00:18:57.940 We, by we, I mean middle-aged, middle-class white men, okay, are the only contingent of society
00:19:04.880 that are dying at a higher rate as opposed to those mortality rates going down because
00:19:09.400 we've become so atomized.
00:19:10.720 And when you've become essentially strangers in our own backyard, it's a lethal mix.
00:19:15.340 And it's only the pencil necks at the very, very top who are saying this is a good idea.
00:19:19.400 But for Joe Sixpack, white Joe Sixpack at home, this is not good.
00:19:23.040 And his ER rates are going up by 300% because he's ODing on bloody opioids.
00:19:28.160 Yeah, exactly.
00:19:29.340 Gee, and they wonder why some of the white guys are kind of mad right now when they're 1.00
00:19:33.660 literally on the shit list. 1.00
00:19:35.780 They're last in line for schools, for loans, for jobs, for grants. 1.00
00:19:39.960 They're blamed for all the problems in the world.
00:19:41.800 They can't be in politics.
00:19:42.980 I mean, we're talking about, you know, I have a son. 0.99
00:19:45.500 I don't want him to grow up in that kind of world where he's on the shit list and then 0.99
00:19:48.320 later on he's a minority. 0.98
00:19:49.720 Like, how do you think that they're going to be treated when that happens, when tables are
00:19:53.060 turned after Marxists have worked these people up to look at us and blame us for all the
00:19:57.220 problems, that we're evil, we're wicked.
00:19:59.080 Our DNA is an abomination that was literally published in a newspaper article at a college
00:20:03.300 recently.
00:20:04.180 I mean, you ladies, do you think about that?
00:20:06.920 You and your children as a minority, how do you think that's going to be if that happens?
00:20:13.520 Well, absolutely.
00:20:14.180 I think white men are obviously the most under attack group right now.
00:20:17.380 But I especially wanted to mention, I think people really underestimate, I used to a couple
00:20:22.640 years ago, the power of identity.
00:20:24.920 It is not something that can be overcome.
00:20:26.840 It is human nature.
00:20:28.440 People like to, especially on the right, when they debate about civic nationalism or ethnic
00:20:32.320 nationalism, they always like to bring up IQ and then debate race and IQ and topics like
00:20:36.940 that.
00:20:37.780 Honestly, I think that's sort of missing the point.
00:20:39.740 When you're talking about values and IQ, if a similar group has a similar set of values,
00:20:45.100 similar IQ, even then, but they have a different ethnic identity, that's still a barrier that
00:20:50.280 can't be overcome because values to an extent are fluid.
00:20:54.280 They're at least more fluid than identity is.
00:20:56.160 Identity you're born with.
00:20:57.340 It is not something you can change.
00:20:59.080 You know, you can be born in a horse stable.
00:21:00.940 It doesn't make you a horse.
00:21:02.600 I think a lot of people don't really understand that.
00:21:04.720 But I mean, starting with 1965 legislation, the immigration shifted from Europe to the third
00:21:11.120 world.
00:21:11.620 Prior to this, it was overtly European immigration with some Chinese taking the long journey over,
00:21:16.260 right?
00:21:16.940 And we all know the third world votes for larger government, more services, and the
00:21:21.600 left, this ensures their future, ensures their power to keep bringing in individuals from
00:21:25.760 the third world.
00:21:26.400 So they'll do anything they can to push this.
00:21:28.420 I mean, how does importing more Democrat voters sound to Democrats?
00:21:31.720 It sounds great.
00:21:32.620 You know, keep them coming in.
00:21:33.900 And non-Hispanic whites are going to become a minority by 2050, you know, within the next 30
00:21:39.500 to 40 years.
00:21:40.480 And that is within less than a century of the legislation in 1965.
00:21:44.160 Whites are going from this vast majority of our nation, the face, the founding stock of 1.00
00:21:49.020 our countries, and are now going to become minorities in less than a century.
00:21:52.420 And people think that this is all going to be okay because we're all tolerant, right?
00:21:55.980 I mean, no one would blame any other group besides ethnic Europeans for being wary of this 0.78
00:22:03.580 change, the fundamental change in the face of their nation.
00:22:06.340 The only people who aren't allowed to worry about this are ethnic Europeans. 0.90
00:22:09.240 Why is that?
00:22:09.760 Because whites are privileged because they hold positions of power in their own countries. 1.00
00:22:14.720 That's ridiculous. 0.99
00:22:16.120 I think we should take whites and we should move to a foreign nation and start voting as 1.00
00:22:22.100 voters and voting for our own interests.
00:22:24.700 And then their government will start to benefit whites rather than the natives.
00:22:28.020 And then when they start complaining that their new system is now benefiting us and not the
00:22:32.080 natives, we can call them privileged bigots. 1.00
00:22:34.280 I think that's a really good plan. 0.98
00:22:35.880 Funny how this only happens in white countries, that only white people allow this kind of thing 0.99
00:22:40.040 to happen.
00:22:40.620 Well, it's funny that you brought up high IQ because as Faith knows, in Canada, you have
00:22:44.480 Indians, you have Chinese coming in. 1.00
00:22:46.680 They have high IQ.
00:22:47.820 And how is that working out?
00:22:49.460 Has that been any better?
00:22:50.880 All of our doctors are Indians and Chinese.
00:22:55.500 That's how it's working out.
00:22:56.540 And you just implemented the RAISE Act over there.
00:22:58.480 So you're going to have similar things.
00:22:59.900 And look, I'm all for everyone helping their countries.
00:23:03.360 And what we've essentially done is we've facilitated a brain drain of nations that are 0.52
00:23:07.460 most in need of their highest IQ populace to get them, lift them out of just poverty in
00:23:13.820 many cases.
00:23:14.460 I mean, India is a mess. 1.00
00:23:15.580 I was there this time last year and I'm like, well, we've got a lot of really smart Indian
00:23:19.480 people in Canada.
00:23:20.460 Maybe they could help sort out like this rabid poverty that you have over here.
00:23:24.820 But you're so right, Lauren, in what you've said about voting interests, et cetera.
00:23:29.420 And, you know, I recently posted two videos to my YouTube channel and I've had a lot of
00:23:33.520 friends reach out to me who are within the political class in this country, some of whom
00:23:37.600 are, you know, racially, you know, biracial, what have you.
00:23:41.720 And they've taken a lot of umbrage with my videos.
00:23:45.120 And I said, whether you like my angles or you don't, can you just admit the fact that
00:23:51.960 there's been a huge demographic change and no one has talked to the local population,
00:23:57.720 the national population?
00:23:59.440 Well, it's not our fault, Faith.
00:24:00.940 These people want to come to your country. 1.00
00:24:02.640 So you're telling me that I'm supposed to base my immigration policy off of what foreigners 0.82
00:24:07.800 want, their will, not what my neighbors want at home, the people who've been paying
00:24:12.420 taxes for so long, who have been living this way.
00:24:14.980 It's a bit much.
00:24:15.820 But, but, Lana, just circling back to what you mentioned about this, you know, do we
00:24:19.060 worry about our offspring, et cetera, et cetera.
00:24:21.180 It's been really fantastic.
00:24:22.160 My closest friend in the city over here, I know this business of red-pilling by experience,
00:24:25.580 she doesn't give a damn about anything that I talk about.
00:24:27.880 She doesn't care about politics. 0.99
00:24:29.280 She's a mother and she, she works in real estate. 1.00
00:24:31.820 And she's had two experiences that she's come up and kind of confessed to me about.
00:24:35.140 And I think it's something that, that is on, it's on the deep dark corners in the
00:24:39.020 back of so many European Canadians here.
00:24:41.880 And they're the ones who are starting to come out and talk to me about this.
00:24:44.600 Cause they're like, Oh no, this is taboo, but I'm, I'm seeing it.
00:24:47.220 So I'll give you an example.
00:24:48.260 Her kid goes to kind of like, um, it's like a playtime for, for, for children.
00:24:52.360 And he's blonde hair and blue eyed.
00:24:54.160 And the majority of the people that are young children, he's two years old, that are his
00:24:58.460 peers are, um, of, of various different races, et cetera.
00:25:02.680 And she said, faith, every single time the instructor gets up and the parents are there for,
00:25:06.560 like they're there for the whole thing, every single time that the instructor gets up and
00:25:10.040 says, okay, who wants to play with the ball?
00:25:12.380 She says, my son is the first one who gets there.
00:25:14.120 He's very responsive.
00:25:14.900 He's very sharp for his age.
00:25:16.500 And she said, he, the teacher who is of herself a different ethnicity, um, waits to give him
00:25:22.040 the ball last.
00:25:23.300 And I find that so strange.
00:25:25.060 And I said, Hmm, okay, well that's different.
00:25:26.780 She said, do you think maybe it's, it's almost like she's making him wait for it.
00:25:30.320 Cause she doesn't want him to, you know, experience any white privilege.
00:25:33.600 I was like, well, I don't know.
00:25:34.600 And this woman also works in real estate. 1.00
00:25:37.100 So this is her second story.
00:25:38.400 And she says, you know, I'm selling, I'm selling houses.
00:25:41.420 I'm selling houses.
00:25:42.140 There's one question that every single buyer asks me.
00:25:45.760 So what is it?
00:25:46.440 She said, what kind of people live in this neighborhood?
00:25:49.020 She said, and would you believe that none of them actually show satisfaction in my answer
00:25:53.600 until I tell them the ethnicity, like the majority ethnicity of the people around there?
00:25:58.700 And I said, oh yeah.
00:25:59.380 I said, what, what is the answer that they're looking for?
00:26:01.460 She said, people who are like them.
00:26:03.760 Of course.
00:26:04.280 So, so it's so interesting just to see this, like you said, like it's a red peeling by
00:26:08.260 experience and people are seeing it everywhere.
00:26:10.180 And it's just a matter of there's this, I think it's like guys or awakening that's occurring,
00:26:14.100 occurring right now.
00:26:15.420 You know, guys, we, we tried it your way.
00:26:17.560 We tried not having this conversation and we see that there are natural ethnic tribal divisions
00:26:23.480 that are manifesting.
00:26:24.600 And there's only one group that is, that is barred from having the conversation.
00:26:29.480 And my goal, my goal, ladies, is not to, to fragment or fringe or push these, frankly,
00:26:37.260 white men to the gutter. 0.73
00:26:38.460 I would like to air out these grievances and talk about it in a healthy way. 0.98
00:26:42.000 And to make it very clear, I'm not looking, I'm not looking for violence.
00:26:45.760 I'm not looking to, I have no qualms with my neighbors.
00:26:49.100 What I have a qualm with is, is, is for myself being barred from advancing my interests because
00:26:56.600 someone's calling me a name for doing so.
00:26:59.000 That's what I have an issue.
00:27:00.480 I have an issue with the fact that my children might be put at a disadvantage because I was
00:27:05.840 too afraid to speak up.
00:27:07.500 So, so I'm very interested in having a conversation and basically airing out some of these grievances,
00:27:12.400 frankly, before it becomes too late because the demographics are against us.
00:27:16.400 Yeah, so I want to get into the solution more.
00:27:19.940 We're, we're talking about a real kind of nationalism.
00:27:23.040 So, you know, there's a lot of myths out there about what it is and isn't.
00:27:26.500 But to you, ladies, what kind of nationalism do you want?
00:27:30.660 Ethno-nationalism?
00:27:31.780 So what, what does that mean to you?
00:27:34.640 Lauren, do you want to go first?
00:27:36.760 Well, that's actually a really difficult question because I think the first step is obviously
00:27:41.140 recognizing the problem, which is what many people are doing now.
00:27:43.880 They're realizing that civic nationalism isn't exactly going to work.
00:27:47.120 Identity is important.
00:27:48.100 Even if you get over the values and group, in group preference is extremely strong.
00:27:52.900 Like Faith said, people ask who lives in this neighborhood where I live.
00:27:56.440 I'm in a Chinese and Hispanic neighborhood.
00:27:58.240 You can imagine that.
00:27:59.300 I hear Chinese and Hispanic.
00:28:00.460 When I go to the store, they speak Chinese and Hispanic.
00:28:02.600 And sometimes they'll speak English to me when I check out if, uh, if they're feeling nice
00:28:06.440 that day.
00:28:07.060 So identity is very powerful.
00:28:09.720 And I think we need to bring it into the mainstream, get talking about identity.
00:28:14.500 Like Faith said, we're not looking for violence.
00:28:16.340 We just need to recognize that this change has come so quickly.
00:28:20.120 And I think a lot of Americans, especially in the Midwest, who tend to actually be more
00:28:24.520 right-wing, they haven't even experienced it firsthand, some of them.
00:28:28.000 And they don't want to, um, from my own experience, um, I want to, with my channel, especially I'm
00:28:35.080 trying to focus on, I guess you could say, ethno-nationalism, bringing identity into the
00:28:40.000 mainstream.
00:28:40.420 It is such a taboo thing to talk about identity, race, ethnicity.
00:28:44.840 And I don't understand.
00:28:46.120 Well, I do understand why, but I think if we want to get anything done, the first step
00:28:50.360 is to normalize the conversation.
00:28:52.320 What comes after that?
00:28:54.780 There are many possibilities, but I don't like to look that far ahead, especially, you
00:28:58.640 know, I'm 19, I'm just getting started, but I do recognize that the conversation is the
00:29:02.340 most important step and the first step that I want to get going.
00:29:04.960 I'm not sure about Faith, but.
00:29:07.260 Yeah.
00:29:07.720 Um, okay.
00:29:08.200 So for me, I'll, I'll be honest with respect to Europe.
00:29:10.540 I think it is largely lost.
00:29:12.380 I think there was a permanent migration crisis there and I wouldn't want to prescribe.
00:29:15.360 I'm much more familiar with the Canadian and American case.
00:29:18.240 And here, um, I, I'm interested in participating at the ballot box, which is saying this demographics
00:29:23.980 are still going to be in our favor for basically the next 20 years, which is to say there is
00:29:28.540 still a white majority.
00:29:29.840 And I think that any sort of movement that we have going forward has to appeal to that
00:29:33.980 majority as Donald Trump did implicitly, whether he wants to admit it or not, but he
00:29:38.380 did.
00:29:38.660 And if you look at the racial breakdown between the vote differences between himself and Hillary
00:29:43.460 Clinton, while it looked like just a few percentages, when he looked at, you know, the
00:29:46.380 multi-culti vote versus the white vote, it was a landslide in either direction.
00:29:50.160 So we want to definitely mobilize that force.
00:29:52.020 And I don't know if honestly talking about ethno-nationalism is going to do it for the
00:29:56.180 people in an explicit way, but I think we can do so in an implicit way.
00:30:00.020 So what does that mean?
00:30:00.760 What does that look like?
00:30:01.460 I think that we definitely need to have a conversation about, frankly, closing down
00:30:04.400 our borders.
00:30:05.080 And there is an appetite.
00:30:05.900 If in Canada, recent polling shows that there is very little objection to actually shutting
00:30:10.680 down our immigration altogether, then I'm sure in America it would be even 1.00
00:30:13.980 stronger, frankly, in favor of such a national conversation.
00:30:17.360 And then looking at rerouting where we're actually planning on getting any of our immigrants
00:30:21.280 from.
00:30:22.260 Outside of that, we need, I mean, as a Christian, I think we need a St. Paul more than we do
00:30:27.160 a Ronald Reagan.
00:30:28.420 So we need to look at reinvigorating our moral civic consensus in these two countries.
00:30:34.420 And that starts with the family and with the male bond.
00:30:38.380 I think that we need to reinvigorate marriage rates by making family planning and pro-natal 0.99
00:30:46.560 policies, which help push people to have children, to make families more affordable.
00:30:51.800 And that can take form in many different ways.
00:30:55.760 I could stay here all day and talk about them, but I won't.
00:30:58.320 And working on getting that divorce rate down as well. 0.89
00:31:02.280 We have to also work on trade.
00:31:05.540 We need to make sure that, frankly, white men are employed and not sitting at home in 0.98
00:31:09.860 middle America and fooling around with opioids.
00:31:12.620 And I think part of what you do is make a very nationalist economic plan.
00:31:17.820 And that would look like, you know, a 30 percent tax on manufactured goods coming in and an
00:31:23.940 elimination of corporate taxes at home to make sure that people are building in your own
00:31:27.720 backyard.
00:31:28.660 And I think that all of this is doable and we can do it without being explicitly ethno-nationalist.
00:31:34.420 I don't think, frankly, and I don't mean to be Debbie Downer here, I don't think that
00:31:38.540 the masses are ready for that yet.
00:31:40.680 No, I agree.
00:31:41.480 Faith, I think you're absolutely right.
00:31:42.780 It's hard to come out and just say, oh, ethno-nationalism, it's going to scare people
00:31:46.580 away, even though ethno-nationalism, the concept of it is ancient.
00:31:50.000 You know, when you think of Japan, it's Japanese.
00:31:52.000 Ethnicity is tied to the country. 0.92
00:31:53.820 You don't have to say ethno-nationalism.
00:31:55.320 You just have to say country.
00:31:56.840 But unfortunately, nowadays, too, even nationalism scares people away because there's been such a
00:32:01.540 number down on people about, you know, Nazis, right?
00:32:04.240 The Nazis talked about that.
00:32:06.780 It's interesting, though, you have brought up, too, before how ethno-nationalism seems,
00:32:12.820 oh, it's a no-no, it's a no-no.
00:32:14.260 But Israel is allowed to be that way. 0.97
00:32:16.400 Basically, everyone around the world is allowed to be an ethnic majority in their own country, 0.86
00:32:21.680 but we're only the ones charged for it when we want it.
00:32:25.400 Right, ladies? 1.00
00:32:26.540 Yep, absolutely.
00:32:27.300 I couldn't agree more.
00:32:28.640 I've often said that, you know, Israel is a religious ethno-state, and I'd love to have
00:32:33.420 the same thick borders as they do in deporting whomever, you know, decides to illegally cross
00:32:37.680 into us.
00:32:38.340 And frankly, I recall being in the West Bank, and I remember saying, you know, Israel's 1.00
00:32:42.320 obviously a superior democracy to the way the West Bank is run.
00:32:46.240 Why don't you naturalize everyone in the West Bank and give them voting rights and then bring 1.00
00:32:51.300 these enemies in as your friends?
00:32:52.760 And I was a member of the Knesset that I was speaking to, and he said, Faith, you don't 0.99
00:32:56.460 get it.
00:32:56.760 Within 15 years, the Arab population that we had just naturalized would outnumber us, and 1.00
00:33:02.320 our Knesset, our parliament, basically, would become majority Arab, and we don't want to 1.00
00:33:08.000 be run by Arabs.
00:33:08.900 And I thought, based.
00:33:10.300 Okay, I get that.
00:33:11.280 Thanks for describing that to me.
00:33:13.260 And I totally agree with you, but I would say this.
00:33:17.140 Ethno-nationalism is on the rise again. 0.88
00:33:20.280 It's just being marketed as something else, quite outside of recent movements, same places
00:33:24.560 like Bolivia, et cetera.
00:33:25.600 If you look at what's happened across Europe with Sebastian Kurz in Australia, the AFD, with
00:33:32.760 the National Front, with even Brexit to a lesser degree.
00:33:37.160 But if you look at those three movements, and what's happened in the Czech Republic as
00:33:40.540 well, these are all ethno-nationalist movements that have come forward.
00:33:45.000 Czech Republic for the Czech people, right?
00:33:47.140 Austria for the Austrians, and ethno-nationalism, much like nationalism just by itself.
00:33:53.420 And I think that it's, like, I use those two terms interchangeably almost, but these
00:33:59.140 are the greatest roadblocks to globalism and the globalist state.
00:34:04.240 And so we are indeed seeing a movement towards it.
00:34:07.140 I think it's just folks in the Far West, in America, which I think has still this hangover 0.98
00:34:13.540 of, you know, the pre-civil rights America, the KKK, you know, the skid mark on their history,
00:34:19.680 that they're worried that all of a sudden you're saying, oh, we're going to, you know, create
00:34:22.780 a genocide.
00:34:23.280 It's like, no, that's no, we're talking about people.
00:34:26.240 We're talking about defending our interests and paving a reasonable future for our country
00:34:32.240 and our people.
00:34:32.980 It's funny, because I talk to people from other countries around the world that write
00:34:36.400 me all the time, people that aren't of European descent, and they write me and say, we support
00:34:40.860 you, you know, you have a right to exist.
00:34:42.760 Of course, this is absurd that you guys are being attacked this way, only you're being
00:34:46.860 attacked this way. 0.79
00:34:47.760 And it's also bad when you know that in our own countries, when there's non-whites that 1.00
00:34:51.580 are like, oh, shoot, I don't want whites to be a minority because all these things that
00:34:54.800 I enjoy, I probably also won't have.
00:34:57.480 Like ideas of equality and human rights and all these wonderful things is things that
00:35:03.180 actually European men have brought to the world, right? 0.78
00:35:08.340 Mm-hmm.
00:35:08.980 Right.
00:35:09.320 And I agree with Faith.
00:35:10.660 I think ethno-nationalism, I don't really like to say that term because I just believe
00:35:15.040 it's synonymous with nationalism.
00:35:16.240 I call myself a nationalist.
00:35:17.660 I don't really like to get into the whole ethno-nationalism term.
00:35:19.880 But other countries like Japan, I think in the last six months, they took in not 300,
00:35:25.040 not 30, three immigrants.
00:35:27.640 They understand.
00:35:28.980 One thing that I say about Japan, like nationalist countries, they understand that in-house problems 0.95
00:35:34.080 are far preferable every time to the problems that an outgroup will bring to you.
00:35:39.440 Every time.
00:35:40.840 That's how I feel about it.
00:35:42.520 Yeah.
00:35:42.780 I mean, there's different flavors of nationalism around the world, but the most successful
00:35:46.380 ones obviously are based on ancestry and then, you know, culture and then religion is another
00:35:51.700 unifying force.
00:35:52.880 You know, my husband and I were talking about examples of, I guess, what you could say civic
00:35:56.740 nationalism.
00:35:57.240 We were looking at Egypt and Rome, although it started off as one ethnicity, it kind of
00:36:02.280 became a civic nationalism in a way, became multicultural.
00:36:05.840 They had to really rule the population through forced coercion, but eventually it failed because
00:36:11.020 it became multicultural.
00:36:12.620 Ancient Greece, the same thing.
00:36:14.340 Russia, though, however, was founded by Nordic Vikings, right?
00:36:18.480 But, you know, that lasted because the Slavic majority was still in place and also they were 0.68
00:36:22.920 united by the Orthodox faith.
00:36:25.220 So religion is another huge unifying force, right?
00:36:29.140 And we've lost that across the Western world right now.
00:36:32.320 Our church rates have fallen like rocks.
00:36:35.140 So we have no moral civic consensus anymore.
00:36:38.200 We have no just plain civic consensus anymore because of this suicide squad of multi-culties 1.00
00:36:44.740 everywhere.
00:36:45.800 And what this has literally led to is a type of ethnocide.
00:36:48.800 And there are people who are pissed off about it, frankly.
00:36:52.540 They lament the fact that we're trying to erase our heritage and sever our future from our past.
00:36:59.120 I can't recall which book it was in, but it might have been Patrick Buchanan's Death of the West.
00:37:05.320 But he talks about how the fall of Rome was not when the barbarians were at the gate.
00:37:10.500 It was actually 500 years before when Caesar became emperor and that regular subjects lamented the loss of their
00:37:23.700 previous regime, their republic, which had then turned into an empire.
00:37:27.840 And despite the fact that Rome continued to be successful, i.e. materially.
00:37:32.420 So America is still materially successful.
00:37:35.880 There were people that were pissed off and truly lamented the loss of their heritage, which was a republic in that sense.
00:37:41.860 And so the civic national says that this nation is a rational attachment alone.
00:37:50.580 I'm a Burkian conservative.
00:37:52.000 The nation is about more than just a rational attachment.
00:37:56.160 It is imbued into it as an idea of heritage, of ancestry, and of awe, right?
00:38:03.000 I don't want a bunch of brutalist, non-nothing monuments around symbolizing nothingness.
00:38:10.620 I want to see my father of confederation as I walk down Canada's Champs-Élysées, which is University Avenue over here, you know.
00:38:18.700 And there's going to be a hunger and thirst for the beautiful and this idea that is transcendent, that connects us to our past and pave some sort of a way for our future.
00:38:29.700 We are not atomized creatures, as the individualists and the civic nationalists would have you believe.
00:38:35.860 And it will lead to an identity crisis.
00:38:38.160 And indeed, that's what we're seeing happen.
00:38:40.220 That's right.
00:38:40.660 And demographics matter.
00:38:41.940 You brought up the statues.
00:38:43.200 You know, you always hear, oh, don't worry, guys.
00:38:45.800 You know, nothing's going to change if you're a minority. 1.00
00:38:47.860 Don't worry, you know, meanwhile, your statues are coming down, Shakespeare's being attacked, the signs are in a different language.
00:38:56.320 It changes everything.
00:38:57.860 I can't believe people don't understand that demographics is everything.
00:39:02.680 It will change everything.
00:39:04.960 The other thing, too, as we're talking about nationalism, there's this misconception that if we're talking about an ethnic-based or ancestral-based nationalism, that there won't be some kind of minorities there.
00:39:16.680 Of course there are.
00:39:17.700 And we're not talking about, oh, we're going to just go round them up and deport them now. 0.96
00:39:20.460 No, but we want the natives to be the majority.
00:39:24.140 There will be some people that aren't of that, you know, native stock, but they need to be a smaller percentage of the population.
00:39:30.400 Correct? Right?
00:39:31.860 Yeah, I don't think it's unreasonable.
00:39:34.260 And like you adequately pointed out, it's allowed for every other country.
00:39:39.600 You know what I mean?
00:39:40.320 So I just I don't see why this is a controversial idea.
00:39:44.220 For me, I put it very, very plainly, just a simple majority.
00:39:47.460 Let's start there.
00:39:48.220 We'd like to remain a simple majority because if all immigration stops right now, whites are still going to be Europeans, as I like to say, frankly, a minority in America within a generation, essentially. 0.92
00:39:59.260 In Canada, I mean, I did a video about this some time ago when I was back at The Rebel, but white Europeans in Canada are going to be less than 20 percent in just 80 years.
00:40:11.260 And that's according to Statistics Canada and international demographers.
00:40:14.760 That's not some, you know, LARPy right wing site.
00:40:17.020 Like, those are official numbers.
00:40:19.000 And so you say, well, a population that is now 75 percent is going to be reduced to somewhere between 12 to 20 percent.
00:40:28.460 You tell me that their interests will be protected.
00:40:32.580 You tell me that things are going to continue on the regular trend.
00:40:36.600 They won't.
00:40:37.200 And look no further than California to see what happens.
00:40:40.220 Look no further than Texas.
00:40:42.520 Texas is not always going to be remaining red.
00:40:44.660 It's going to be shifting blue within the next basically a generation as well. 0.98
00:40:49.280 And and we'd be fools.
00:40:50.840 And I think conservative Inc. are the ones who really need to get the wake up call and hop on top of the nationalism, the true nationalism train right now, because you're civic, you're civic hucking, as Lauren has coined the term.
00:41:03.080 And I love it.
00:41:03.640 The civic hucks.
00:41:04.780 The civic hucks are going.
00:41:06.380 It's demographic suicide for Republicans to continue to think that their party is going to have any sort of relevance in 30 years from now.
00:41:15.840 They're not.
00:41:16.280 They're going to be voted out of office, as are the liberal.
00:41:19.280 It's ours of the conservatives north of the 49th here.
00:41:21.400 Yep, it's it's alarming.
00:41:24.380 Yeah.
00:41:24.560 Get on the nationalist train, people.
00:41:26.420 Well, one other thing, you know, some have said to, well, you know, the colonies, America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, that they're not allowed to retain a European majority because they're newer countries, which is kind of funny because when we talk about Israel, but in South Sudan, Eritrea, there's a lot of new countries where their ethnicity is still the majority.
00:41:46.020 So what do you think about that, that, oh, we can't be a majority because we're a newer country?
00:41:51.580 Well, this country was founded by and for Europeans, and I refuse to feel sorry for it, to feel sorry about being a nationalist.
00:41:58.400 And I do agree with faith that we need to make our voices heard at the ballot box.
00:42:02.100 But personally, that's not what I'm going to be doing.
00:42:04.540 I'm not planning on becoming a politician or anything.
00:42:06.820 I just want to spread the message of nationalism.
00:42:09.000 And I think that question of, oh, well, it's a new country is one of these questions that is asked in bad faith, similarly to the question, what is white?
00:42:18.120 Because that's what they always ask when you say we need to preserve.
00:42:21.400 Lauren looks pretty white to me. 0.98
00:42:23.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:42:24.200 No, you don't ask if I'm white when you're deciding if I'm going to get benefits for affirmative action.
00:42:28.060 You don't ask if I'm white when they're doing a, when they're deciding who's white in prison or not and doing demographics there.
00:42:33.540 But all of a sudden, when it's we need to preserve our countries, it's, oh, yeah, what even is white? 0.97
00:42:37.160 Yeah, exactly.
00:42:38.040 You're going to look at me and say, I can't tell.
00:42:40.220 Yeah, I just, I just, I don't know.
00:42:41.880 I'm looking at faith in Lana right now.
00:42:43.280 And I really, I have no idea what's going on there.
00:42:45.080 No, I'm really Asian.
00:42:46.020 People tell me I'm really Asian because I'm of Russian heritage.
00:42:48.880 Like, oh, really?
00:42:49.860 Okay.
00:42:53.820 Yeah, no, with respect to the newer argument, I think it's a load of crock because, of course, all of the foundings of our nations by European settlers and great European men was rooted in heritage.
00:43:06.500 And a heritage that was adopted and transcended from older nations and already formed people.
00:43:13.500 So I think that's a load of hogwash.
00:43:15.380 And we should recall the fact that all of the founding fathers, and again, I'm much more acquainted with the American and Canadian histories, had a vision as to how these countries would play out.
00:43:27.580 And that includes their values and their virtues, but include also the character of their nation.
00:43:33.400 And they were unabashed about how strict their immigration policy would look, specifically to preserve the character of our nation.
00:43:42.360 Now, all of that has been undone.
00:43:44.220 And in a relatively recent timeline, when you look at the overall trajectory and history of our countries, and it was all done without any sort of conversation nationally.
00:43:57.040 It was done from an elite.
00:43:58.620 It was done in many cases with foreign interests and influence affecting all of these decisions.
00:44:06.960 And at the end of the day, it's been injected into our nation.
00:44:10.560 And it's had a headstand effect on how things are going to go going forward.
00:44:15.940 And so I think it's insane for us to pretend that this multi-culti, mavalius illustration of how the nation should be is one that is in any way true to the essence of our nations.
00:44:29.900 This was a blueprint that was inflicted on a non-multicultural, a rather homogenous peoples, and without any sort of consensus or consent. 1.00
00:44:44.940 Namely, electoral mandates.
00:44:47.360 So it was done undemocratically.
00:44:49.680 And I'd like to at least open up the floodgates to having some conversation, because I think a lot of folks would be surprised at the fact that, frankly, the majority are with us and not the civicox.
00:44:58.900 That's just it.
00:44:59.600 A lot of people harbor our views quietly.
00:45:02.820 And it's because of ladies like you that are vocal about it and saying, it's okay to think like us. 1.00
00:45:06.860 We're here.
00:45:07.680 You'll be supported because there's millions of us that think like that.
00:45:11.300 This is what it's about.
00:45:12.920 This is what we're doing, and this is what it's going to be moving forward.
00:45:15.660 So I want to thank you both for your hard work.
00:45:18.020 Thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:45:19.560 But before I let you go, I want to hear about your future plans and what you have going on.
00:45:23.860 Faith, we'll start with you.
00:45:25.340 Yeah, sure.
00:45:26.140 So I've just launched my own YouTube channel.
00:45:27.860 You can find me, Faith J. Goldie.
00:45:29.820 And yeah, I'll be posting videos over there.
00:45:32.360 And there may or may not be one of myself and Lauren soon.
00:45:35.720 I don't know.
00:45:36.480 Who knows?
00:45:37.380 And you can find me on Twitter, at Faith Goldie as well.
00:45:39.820 It's exciting.
00:45:40.380 I'm going to be doing some investigative work while I'm there as well.
00:45:43.380 But for the next couple of videos, it's probably going to be some more political philosophy stuff,
00:45:46.940 just because I've had a couple months off.
00:45:48.560 I've been doing a lot of thinking.
00:45:49.600 And so I just want to kind of air out any of my intellectual laundry before moving forward
00:45:52.960 in a here and now way to make sure that we keep our dogma alive with facts that are relevant
00:45:59.960 and grounded into contemporary news events.
00:46:02.320 Well, you do a great job and you're very well.
00:46:03.980 Thank you.
00:46:04.860 Lauren, what about you?
00:46:05.900 You can find me on my channel at Lauren Rose and definitely keep an eye out for a possible
00:46:11.640 collaboration with Faith and I.
00:46:13.260 I plan on continuing doing videos.
00:46:15.180 I'm actually just finishing up my semester here at school.
00:46:18.680 So I've been very busy.
00:46:20.240 But, you know, there's that nice winter break and I'm going to get to put out a lot more
00:46:23.300 content.
00:46:23.760 And that's my goal moving forward.
00:46:25.020 Just more and more content promoting nationalism.
00:46:27.440 Now, curious, what are you majoring in?
00:46:28.860 I'm currently in business, but I may or may not be changing that very soon.
00:46:34.600 So stay tuned for that.
00:46:36.520 All right.
00:46:37.020 Well, thank you so much.
00:46:37.840 It's been a blast and we'll have to do it again sometime in the near future.
00:46:41.320 Oh, of course.
00:46:41.860 Thanks, ma'am.
00:46:42.740 There's no way around it.
00:46:44.240 Nationalism is the future.
00:46:46.160 It already rightfully exists for non-European peoples across the globe. 0.98
00:46:49.560 And it will exist again for European peoples, too.
00:46:52.420 No matter how much globalists force the multi-cult in our face, it won't stick because nothing
00:46:57.400 is stronger than ethnic bonds.
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