Dear Cucks_ Only One Kind of Nationalism Will Save the West
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Summary
Lauren Rose ( ) and Faith Goldie ( ) join host Lana to discuss why nationalism has failed, and what kind of nationalism should be in its place. Plus, a look at what it means to be a conservative red-pilled millennial.
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Hi, I'm Lana, and joining me is Lauren Rose, who's only 19 years old, which is really
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impressive, and former rebel journalist Faith Goldie, who was fired after attending the
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And since there's been a wave of popular voices denouncing civic nationalism, we'll discuss
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how it's failed and what kind of nationalism should be in its place.
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Lauren Rose, Faith Goldie, thanks for coming on the program.
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We'll say hi to you, Lauren, first, since you're brand new to most people.
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I'm a big fan of the show, and it's great to be here with you and Faith today, and I'm excited
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It feels like I've already known you for a long time for some reason.
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I guess it's like, people are like, I feel like I know you.
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Now, I was saying, off the record, if Wikipedia is correct, you are part Ukrainian and Italian,
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Yeah, I say that I'm Ukrainian during the year, because I go to Ukrainian church, and
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I'm Greek during the summers, because I oftentimes travel to Greece, but I've stopped that in
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recent years, because it's just turned into a giant Afghanistan.
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Yeah, you have the Eastern European bone structure, and then a little bit of the coloring of Greek,
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As far as I know, I am Irish, Anglo, and German.
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Probably about 50% Irish, though, and then the rest is split between that Anglo-Germanic.
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Now, of course, all the guys are going to want to know, are you ladies spoken for?
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Okay, okay, well, then it was some guy who wants to be engaged to you, because he was
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writing me about you and saying, she's my fiancé, we're going to have 10 kids, so, okay.
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Yeah, I get some email proposals, but I haven't gotten one good enough yet, so they just got
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Now, Lauren, you're only 19, so tell us, really, what inspired you to start making YouTube
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Well, I actually started out not as a nationalist.
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I was sort of this center libertarian in high school.
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I sort of went with the flow of everything that was regarded as acceptable opinions in
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But then I moved to New York City about two years ago now, and that's when everything
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There was a huge sort of culture shock, demographic shock, for sure.
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I grew up in a mostly white neighborhood, white community, so seeing the diversity here
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and experiencing the joys of diversity firsthand played a major role in red-pilling me, and
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ever since then, the past two years, I've just been reading, learning, following nationalists,
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and it's just sort of escalated since that point.
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And once you get into it, you sort of can't get out.
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A lot of people are red-pilled by life, as they say, through experience.
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Now, Faith, have you always been a conservative, or what's your background?
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No, I was a crypto-Marxist in my teenage years, and then I grew up.
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No, my mom revealed herself to be a hardcore right-winger, but she believed in critical
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thinking and free thinking, and so she just provided me with alternate arguments.
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But when I saw my best friend, my role model, my confidant being a conservative, well, then
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it opened up the whole can of worms that conservatives are people to, because the left is such a great
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job of dehumanizing the right, that when I was forced to deal with the most human person
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in my life being a right-winger, then all of a sudden I started listening to them and
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not just responding with tropes and jingles and platitudes, if you will, and began engaging
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And then I realized that their arguments were better than mine.
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And so I went from kind of this amazing evolution of, I never went through the libertarian phase,
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but really a social conservative was actually where I went to.
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And from there, in my journalistic profession, I've always been obsessed with the idea of immigration,
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partially because I have people who've worked in immigration in my family.
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And I've done everything from investigative reports to just cultural commentary.
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And then after Charlottesville, I basically was dealt a hand of cards where everyone said,
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I'm just going to be myself and say what I mean and mean what I say.
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And you'll become more popular than ever when you just rip off those shackles and you just
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let loose, you know, the universe and the truth will reward you.
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I have to ask, you were let go, I think, from Rebel because you attended, you know,
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Unite the Right, Charlottesville, you were interviewed by a certain podcast.
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And I have to say, no offense to this podcast, but I've never heard of them.
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Yeah, so I had never heard of them before that day either.
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I went there against my boss's wishes because I believed it was going to be the biggest national
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It was the biggest international story of the weekend.
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I mean, I don't know if you can use the C-U-C-K word on this station.
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And I was there just covering it, periscoping, doing my thing.
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And I what I noticed was that there was two sets of laws, one for right wingers and one
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for left wingers on the streets of Charlottesville that day.
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And so far as the Unite the Right folks, love them or hate them, were disallowed from hosting
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an event that they were not only constitutionally allowed to have, permitted to have, but also
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had a court injunction upholding all of those rights and freedoms.
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But then the footage that you're showing right here, lefties could get together and not a
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And of course, I captured just by by circumstance at the the the horrific attack on the streets
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And it became, I think, probably one of the clearest pictures of of the attack from that
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And and so I was talking to everyone that would hear me in the wake of the events of Charlottesville
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And so when the crypto report asked me to come on and relay what I had experienced, of
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And so I did that just thinking to myself, I knew it was an edgier podcast.
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I didn't think much else besides the fact that, hey, so long as I don't say anything that's
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stupid or troublesome and I just go there and do my job, which is telling people what I
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Apparently, who you talk to is incriminating enough.
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Well, the thing is, as a journalist, a good journalist does talk to everybody, right?
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Nothing should be off limits and no one should be off limits.
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I do not apologize for for what I did from a professional standpoint.
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It was completely in line with the way that I have always played my cards.
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I've been called every name under the book, right from homophobic, transphobic, Islamophobic.
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Now, you know, white supremacist, neo-Nazi are just the next evolution.
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But from a personal standpoint, I don't take any of it back because it has been one of the
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most fantastic evolutions from a personal standpoint when it comes to my own fortitude.
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And it's just helped me clarify what I think, what I believe and how committed I am to truth,
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even in the face of whatever anyone wants to call me.
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So, you know, their loss, their loss, their tanking hard now.
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And of course, you were also disinvited from a, yes, a free speech rally.
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So what went or not a rally, but it was a panel, right?
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So what went through your head then when you were disinvited?
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And because I didn't use my speech in a way that suited the sensibilities of those who were
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So I still love folks there, Jordan B. Peterson, Gad Saad, Dr. Orin Amitay.
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They all do great work, as is Rebel for that matter.
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But, you know, they saw me as too hot a property, as JVP said.
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But it wasn't lost on our audiences whatsoever, of which we have a large center part of the
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Venn diagram, Jordan B. Peterson, whether he likes it or not.
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And I think for them, they thought, well, this is a bit too much pragmatism and not enough
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And why the hell are we here if not for the principles that we apparently share?
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And I think Jordan's complaint was that you didn't ask them certain questions and you
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So I would ask them, OK, what questions would have made it OK that she should have asked?
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And how should she have acted with them to make it OK in their eyes?
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And also, I was the one who was being questioned.
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And I don't go around counter signaling everyone.
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You can sit here and we can start off the conversation.
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You say, Faith, you said this that we discovered.
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And like I said, I talked to the Crypto Report.
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You know, I'm seriously interested in sharing my worldview, my research, my experience and
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But, you know, I'm working through them in my head.
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I'm happy to hear other opinions and I'm happy to share them with whomever will hear me.
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Yeah, it's good to get out of your comfort zone, too.
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You don't want to just be an echo chamber all the time.
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You have to talk to other people and kind of sharpen your argument a little bit.
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And, yeah, sometimes you're going to have commonalities with people that seem a little
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You know, I'm sure you might have something in common with some serial killer, too, you
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So, I mean, it's interesting with Daily Stormer, though.
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I can't think of any other outlet like that has actually been censored off of the Internet.
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I mean, can you guys, ladies, think of anyone else where this has happened to?
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This might be a little bit grasping, but they're the Galileo of our time here.
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They're the most censored outlet right now, which only increases, frankly, their attractiveness.
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Where the more that you've labeled them taboo and outside of the realm of what we should
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be listening to, well, in today's politically correct climate, of course, there's going to
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be a hunger and thirst for that taboo and more people are going to seek them out.
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And I wouldn't doubt that England's numbers have probably gone up now since he's moved to
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this other part of the Internet, you know, webosphere.
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I'm sure that his numbers are doing even better for it.
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Now, lately, there's been a good trend, you know, amongst YouTubers, friends, allies who
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And you two ladies have been on board with that.
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He was realizing that demographics is everything for his goal of getting to a stateless society.
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We have my friend Blonde in the belly of the beast.
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So I want to ask you two ladies, what does it mean first for people that are newcomers?
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Well, first of all, I kind of want to, I have to neg civic nationalism a little bit because
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I think it should be called something rather like xenophilic nationalism.
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And the oxymoron becomes more apparent when you treat it like that.
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Civic nationalism perpetuates that it's okay to bring foreign people into your country
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as long as there are a bunch of tolerant egalitarians.
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It doesn't take anything else into consideration like religion, race, ethnic group.
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As long as you're tolerant and have egalitarian values, that seems to be okay, which we obviously
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see isn't working throughout Europe and the U.S. now as the demographics change.
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And people see, well, people like Faith and I and Blonde and others who are making this
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jump, that that is not the correct answer, that demographics matter.
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When you replace the founding stock of a nation, you replace the entire nation.
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And nationalists, what we want to do is preserve our homelands, preserve the nation.
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So I've actually extracted a quote, if you don't mind, and you'll indulge me for a moment,
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because one of the leading thinkers when it came to popularizing this concept of civic
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nationalism was actually Michael Ignatius, a Canadian who ran for prime minister in this
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I want to quote him on what civic nationalism is, and then your audience and the world can
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decide whether or not this is an achievable goal and indeed what we're seeing play out
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in these civic nationalist experiment petri dish countries like my own home country of
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It is a community of equal, rights-bearing citizens, united in patriotic attachment to a
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Is it really equal, or are some people more equal than others?
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Think about things like anti-discrimination laws, which say that myself as a European-Canadian,
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Rights-bearing citizens, united in patriotic attachment.
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Are we all about the same patriotic attachment?
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And a shared set of political practices, well, Sharia law is coming to my country, quite literally.
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What the hell values do we have in these multi-culti, civic-nationalistic experiments?
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We can't agree anymore, because that's a byproduct of the cultural Marxism and cultural relativism
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that we've ushered in at the same time, saying that we're all about this civic nationalism.
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For me, the idea of having values without an identity is incongruent.
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And imbued into all of this debate about this civic nation is the question of immigration.
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And when you're looking at the question of immigration, you have to ask yourself, how can this work?
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And so how are you going to achieve assimilation?
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And more and more than ever, we're bringing more and more people from non-traditional sources
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And number two, what are we asking them to assimilate to?
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In post-1965 America, post-1965 Canada, we can't answer that question anymore, because
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And when you look at the civic nationalism, well, why did we invent this?
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And I don't care what anyone thinks about ethno-nationalism.
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You have not properly studied history unless you can accept the fact that throughout the 20th
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century, more so than communism, more so than capitalism, more so than democracy, ethno-nationalism
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was the greatest propeller of human history when determining the maker or breaker of empire,
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This is what rallies men and gets them moving it.
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Even in these civic nationalistic little petri dishes, guess what's happened?
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Why is there a little Arabia in my own hometown?
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The cultural enclaves, this balkanization is already happening.
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And so it is a natural tribal instinct for human communities to go with their own.
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So the question is, are we going to continue to work against nature and try to rise above
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it, even though we're 40, 50, 60 years into this experiment and those partitions are only
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Or are we going to say, maybe it's time to disaggregate?
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Maybe it's time that we reconsider how we've treated our borders to date.
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So if you can summarize that, you know, civic nationalists, they think that all these very
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diverse groups of people from all around the world can come and be united by these abstract
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ideas or something like the Constitution, and that they'll never align based on any ethnic
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Because if you look at Canada and America before 1965, when the demographics was mostly
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European, we didn't have the kind of division that we have now.
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So when people say people like us are trying to divide everyone, no, it's actually the other
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We were actually quite unified before this happened.
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But I think it's really funny that a lot of these civic nationalists that we hear popping
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up that they claim to be more on the right side.
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Sure, you might have a few, you know, blacks or Latinos here and there, but it's like
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You know, what's going to happen when they're a minority?
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So, so with respect to it, if I understand your argument correctly, that basically white,
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you know, pencil necks are the ones who are pushing this idea of civic nationalism, correct?
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So in Coming Apart, a great Charles Murray book, he talks about this establishment of
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almost like this, this high IQ, upper echelon of society superclass with the way that basically
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marital patterns have worked out among the well-educated class in America.
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You don't just have the high IQ man that is only now marrying the beautiful girl next door
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He's going to marry another lawyer within his legal practice, what have you.
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And so what this has done is it's created households within the super elite where people
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And based on Jordan B. Peterson's research, high IQ people tend to have a much higher characteristic
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And so you see them being very open to these ideas, et cetera.
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So it's so interesting because we are literally leading to our own demise.
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If you couple this with the enlightenment value of individualism, et cetera, we literally are
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We, by we, I mean middle-aged, middle-class white men, okay, are the only contingent of society
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that are dying at a higher rate as opposed to those mortality rates going down because
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And when you've become essentially strangers in our own backyard, it's a lethal mix.
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And it's only the pencil necks at the very, very top who are saying this is a good idea.
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But for Joe Sixpack, white Joe Sixpack at home, this is not good.
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And his ER rates are going up by 300% because he's ODing on bloody opioids.
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Gee, and they wonder why some of the white guys are kind of mad right now when they're
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They're last in line for schools, for loans, for jobs, for grants.
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They're blamed for all the problems in the world.
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I mean, we're talking about, you know, I have a son.
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I don't want him to grow up in that kind of world where he's on the shit list and then
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Like, how do you think that they're going to be treated when that happens, when tables are
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turned after Marxists have worked these people up to look at us and blame us for all the
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Our DNA is an abomination that was literally published in a newspaper article at a college
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You and your children as a minority, how do you think that's going to be if that happens?
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I think white men are obviously the most under attack group right now.
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But I especially wanted to mention, I think people really underestimate, I used to a couple
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People like to, especially on the right, when they debate about civic nationalism or ethnic
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nationalism, they always like to bring up IQ and then debate race and IQ and topics like
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Honestly, I think that's sort of missing the point.
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When you're talking about values and IQ, if a similar group has a similar set of values,
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similar IQ, even then, but they have a different ethnic identity, that's still a barrier that
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can't be overcome because values to an extent are fluid.
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I think a lot of people don't really understand that.
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But I mean, starting with 1965 legislation, the immigration shifted from Europe to the third
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Prior to this, it was overtly European immigration with some Chinese taking the long journey over,
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And we all know the third world votes for larger government, more services, and the
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left, this ensures their future, ensures their power to keep bringing in individuals from
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I mean, how does importing more Democrat voters sound to Democrats?
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And non-Hispanic whites are going to become a minority by 2050, you know, within the next 30
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And that is within less than a century of the legislation in 1965.
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Whites are going from this vast majority of our nation, the face, the founding stock of
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our countries, and are now going to become minorities in less than a century.
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And people think that this is all going to be okay because we're all tolerant, right?
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I mean, no one would blame any other group besides ethnic Europeans for being wary of this
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change, the fundamental change in the face of their nation.
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The only people who aren't allowed to worry about this are ethnic Europeans.
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Because whites are privileged because they hold positions of power in their own countries.
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I think we should take whites and we should move to a foreign nation and start voting as
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And then their government will start to benefit whites rather than the natives.
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And then when they start complaining that their new system is now benefiting us and not the
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Funny how this only happens in white countries, that only white people allow this kind of thing
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Well, it's funny that you brought up high IQ because as Faith knows, in Canada, you have
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And you just implemented the RAISE Act over there.
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And look, I'm all for everyone helping their countries.
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And what we've essentially done is we've facilitated a brain drain of nations that are
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most in need of their highest IQ populace to get them, lift them out of just poverty in
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I was there this time last year and I'm like, well, we've got a lot of really smart Indian
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Maybe they could help sort out like this rabid poverty that you have over here.
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But you're so right, Lauren, in what you've said about voting interests, et cetera.
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And, you know, I recently posted two videos to my YouTube channel and I've had a lot of
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friends reach out to me who are within the political class in this country, some of whom
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are, you know, racially, you know, biracial, what have you.
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And they've taken a lot of umbrage with my videos.
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And I said, whether you like my angles or you don't, can you just admit the fact that
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there's been a huge demographic change and no one has talked to the local population,
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So you're telling me that I'm supposed to base my immigration policy off of what foreigners
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want, their will, not what my neighbors want at home, the people who've been paying
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taxes for so long, who have been living this way.
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But, but, Lana, just circling back to what you mentioned about this, you know, do we
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worry about our offspring, et cetera, et cetera.
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My closest friend in the city over here, I know this business of red-pilling by experience,
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she doesn't give a damn about anything that I talk about.
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She's a mother and she, she works in real estate.
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And she's had two experiences that she's come up and kind of confessed to me about.
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And I think it's something that, that is on, it's on the deep dark corners in the
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And they're the ones who are starting to come out and talk to me about this.
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Cause they're like, Oh no, this is taboo, but I'm, I'm seeing it.
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Her kid goes to kind of like, um, it's like a playtime for, for, for children.
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And the majority of the people that are young children, he's two years old, that are his
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peers are, um, of, of various different races, et cetera.
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And she said, faith, every single time the instructor gets up and the parents are there for,
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like they're there for the whole thing, every single time that the instructor gets up and
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She says, my son is the first one who gets there.
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And she said, he, the teacher who is of herself a different ethnicity, um, waits to give him
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She said, do you think maybe it's, it's almost like she's making him wait for it.
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Cause she doesn't want him to, you know, experience any white privilege.
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And she says, you know, I'm selling, I'm selling houses.
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There's one question that every single buyer asks me.
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She said, what kind of people live in this neighborhood?
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She said, and would you believe that none of them actually show satisfaction in my answer
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until I tell them the ethnicity, like the majority ethnicity of the people around there?
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I said, what, what is the answer that they're looking for?
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So, so it's so interesting just to see this, like you said, like it's a red peeling by
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experience and people are seeing it everywhere.
00:26:10.180
And it's just a matter of there's this, I think it's like guys or awakening that's occurring,
00:26:17.560
We tried not having this conversation and we see that there are natural ethnic tribal divisions
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And there's only one group that is, that is barred from having the conversation.
00:26:29.480
And my goal, my goal, ladies, is not to, to fragment or fringe or push these, frankly,
00:26:38.460
I would like to air out these grievances and talk about it in a healthy way.
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And to make it very clear, I'm not looking, I'm not looking for violence.
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I'm not looking to, I have no qualms with my neighbors.
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What I have a qualm with is, is, is for myself being barred from advancing my interests because
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I have an issue with the fact that my children might be put at a disadvantage because I was
00:27:07.500
So, so I'm very interested in having a conversation and basically airing out some of these grievances,
00:27:12.400
frankly, before it becomes too late because the demographics are against us.
00:27:19.940
We're, we're talking about a real kind of nationalism.
00:27:23.040
So, you know, there's a lot of myths out there about what it is and isn't.
00:27:26.500
But to you, ladies, what kind of nationalism do you want?
00:27:36.760
Well, that's actually a really difficult question because I think the first step is obviously
00:27:41.140
recognizing the problem, which is what many people are doing now.
00:27:43.880
They're realizing that civic nationalism isn't exactly going to work.
00:27:48.100
Even if you get over the values and group, in group preference is extremely strong.
00:27:52.900
Like Faith said, people ask who lives in this neighborhood where I live.
00:28:00.460
When I go to the store, they speak Chinese and Hispanic.
00:28:02.600
And sometimes they'll speak English to me when I check out if, uh, if they're feeling nice
00:28:09.720
And I think we need to bring it into the mainstream, get talking about identity.
00:28:14.500
Like Faith said, we're not looking for violence.
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We just need to recognize that this change has come so quickly.
00:28:20.120
And I think a lot of Americans, especially in the Midwest, who tend to actually be more
00:28:24.520
right-wing, they haven't even experienced it firsthand, some of them.
00:28:28.000
And they don't want to, um, from my own experience, um, I want to, with my channel, especially I'm
00:28:35.080
trying to focus on, I guess you could say, ethno-nationalism, bringing identity into the
00:28:40.420
It is such a taboo thing to talk about identity, race, ethnicity.
00:28:46.120
Well, I do understand why, but I think if we want to get anything done, the first step
00:28:54.780
There are many possibilities, but I don't like to look that far ahead, especially, you
00:28:58.640
know, I'm 19, I'm just getting started, but I do recognize that the conversation is the
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most important step and the first step that I want to get going.
00:29:08.200
So for me, I'll, I'll be honest with respect to Europe.
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I think there was a permanent migration crisis there and I wouldn't want to prescribe.
00:29:15.360
I'm much more familiar with the Canadian and American case.
00:29:18.240
And here, um, I, I'm interested in participating at the ballot box, which is saying this demographics
00:29:23.980
are still going to be in our favor for basically the next 20 years, which is to say there is
00:29:29.840
And I think that any sort of movement that we have going forward has to appeal to that
00:29:33.980
majority as Donald Trump did implicitly, whether he wants to admit it or not, but he
00:29:38.660
And if you look at the racial breakdown between the vote differences between himself and Hillary
00:29:43.460
Clinton, while it looked like just a few percentages, when he looked at, you know, the
00:29:46.380
multi-culti vote versus the white vote, it was a landslide in either direction.
00:29:52.020
And I don't know if honestly talking about ethno-nationalism is going to do it for the
00:29:56.180
people in an explicit way, but I think we can do so in an implicit way.
00:30:01.460
I think that we definitely need to have a conversation about, frankly, closing down
00:30:05.900
If in Canada, recent polling shows that there is very little objection to actually shutting
00:30:10.680
down our immigration altogether, then I'm sure in America it would be even
00:30:13.980
stronger, frankly, in favor of such a national conversation.
00:30:17.360
And then looking at rerouting where we're actually planning on getting any of our immigrants
00:30:22.260
Outside of that, we need, I mean, as a Christian, I think we need a St. Paul more than we do
00:30:28.420
So we need to look at reinvigorating our moral civic consensus in these two countries.
00:30:34.420
And that starts with the family and with the male bond.
00:30:38.380
I think that we need to reinvigorate marriage rates by making family planning and pro-natal
00:30:46.560
policies, which help push people to have children, to make families more affordable.
00:30:55.760
I could stay here all day and talk about them, but I won't.
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And working on getting that divorce rate down as well.
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We need to make sure that, frankly, white men are employed and not sitting at home in
00:31:09.860
middle America and fooling around with opioids.
00:31:12.620
And I think part of what you do is make a very nationalist economic plan.
00:31:17.820
And that would look like, you know, a 30 percent tax on manufactured goods coming in and an
00:31:23.940
elimination of corporate taxes at home to make sure that people are building in your own
00:31:28.660
And I think that all of this is doable and we can do it without being explicitly ethno-nationalist.
00:31:34.420
I don't think, frankly, and I don't mean to be Debbie Downer here, I don't think that
00:31:42.780
It's hard to come out and just say, oh, ethno-nationalism, it's going to scare people
00:31:46.580
away, even though ethno-nationalism, the concept of it is ancient.
00:31:50.000
You know, when you think of Japan, it's Japanese.
00:31:56.840
But unfortunately, nowadays, too, even nationalism scares people away because there's been such a
00:32:01.540
number down on people about, you know, Nazis, right?
00:32:06.780
It's interesting, though, you have brought up, too, before how ethno-nationalism seems,
00:32:16.400
Basically, everyone around the world is allowed to be an ethnic majority in their own country,
00:32:21.680
but we're only the ones charged for it when we want it.
00:32:28.640
I've often said that, you know, Israel is a religious ethno-state, and I'd love to have
00:32:33.420
the same thick borders as they do in deporting whomever, you know, decides to illegally cross
00:32:38.340
And frankly, I recall being in the West Bank, and I remember saying, you know, Israel's
00:32:42.320
obviously a superior democracy to the way the West Bank is run.
00:32:46.240
Why don't you naturalize everyone in the West Bank and give them voting rights and then bring
00:32:52.760
And I was a member of the Knesset that I was speaking to, and he said, Faith, you don't
00:32:56.760
Within 15 years, the Arab population that we had just naturalized would outnumber us, and
00:33:02.320
our Knesset, our parliament, basically, would become majority Arab, and we don't want to
00:33:13.260
And I totally agree with you, but I would say this.
00:33:20.280
It's just being marketed as something else, quite outside of recent movements, same places
00:33:25.600
If you look at what's happened across Europe with Sebastian Kurz in Australia, the AFD, with
00:33:32.760
the National Front, with even Brexit to a lesser degree.
00:33:37.160
But if you look at those three movements, and what's happened in the Czech Republic as
00:33:40.540
well, these are all ethno-nationalist movements that have come forward.
00:33:47.140
Austria for the Austrians, and ethno-nationalism, much like nationalism just by itself.
00:33:53.420
And I think that it's, like, I use those two terms interchangeably almost, but these
00:33:59.140
are the greatest roadblocks to globalism and the globalist state.
00:34:04.240
And so we are indeed seeing a movement towards it.
00:34:07.140
I think it's just folks in the Far West, in America, which I think has still this hangover
00:34:13.540
of, you know, the pre-civil rights America, the KKK, you know, the skid mark on their history,
00:34:19.680
that they're worried that all of a sudden you're saying, oh, we're going to, you know, create
00:34:23.280
It's like, no, that's no, we're talking about people.
00:34:26.240
We're talking about defending our interests and paving a reasonable future for our country
00:34:32.980
It's funny, because I talk to people from other countries around the world that write
00:34:36.400
me all the time, people that aren't of European descent, and they write me and say, we support
00:34:42.760
Of course, this is absurd that you guys are being attacked this way, only you're being
00:34:47.760
And it's also bad when you know that in our own countries, when there's non-whites that
00:34:51.580
are like, oh, shoot, I don't want whites to be a minority because all these things that
00:34:57.480
Like ideas of equality and human rights and all these wonderful things is things that
00:35:03.180
actually European men have brought to the world, right?
00:35:10.660
I think ethno-nationalism, I don't really like to say that term because I just believe
00:35:17.660
I don't really like to get into the whole ethno-nationalism term.
00:35:19.880
But other countries like Japan, I think in the last six months, they took in not 300,
00:35:28.980
One thing that I say about Japan, like nationalist countries, they understand that in-house problems
00:35:34.080
are far preferable every time to the problems that an outgroup will bring to you.
00:35:42.780
I mean, there's different flavors of nationalism around the world, but the most successful
00:35:46.380
ones obviously are based on ancestry and then, you know, culture and then religion is another
00:35:52.880
You know, my husband and I were talking about examples of, I guess, what you could say civic
00:35:57.240
We were looking at Egypt and Rome, although it started off as one ethnicity, it kind of
00:36:02.280
became a civic nationalism in a way, became multicultural.
00:36:05.840
They had to really rule the population through forced coercion, but eventually it failed because
00:36:14.340
Russia, though, however, was founded by Nordic Vikings, right?
00:36:18.480
But, you know, that lasted because the Slavic majority was still in place and also they were
00:36:25.220
So religion is another huge unifying force, right?
00:36:29.140
And we've lost that across the Western world right now.
00:36:38.200
We have no just plain civic consensus anymore because of this suicide squad of multi-culties
00:36:45.800
And what this has literally led to is a type of ethnocide.
00:36:48.800
And there are people who are pissed off about it, frankly.
00:36:52.540
They lament the fact that we're trying to erase our heritage and sever our future from our past.
00:36:59.120
I can't recall which book it was in, but it might have been Patrick Buchanan's Death of the West.
00:37:05.320
But he talks about how the fall of Rome was not when the barbarians were at the gate.
00:37:10.500
It was actually 500 years before when Caesar became emperor and that regular subjects lamented the loss of their
00:37:23.700
previous regime, their republic, which had then turned into an empire.
00:37:27.840
And despite the fact that Rome continued to be successful, i.e. materially.
00:37:35.880
There were people that were pissed off and truly lamented the loss of their heritage, which was a republic in that sense.
00:37:41.860
And so the civic national says that this nation is a rational attachment alone.
00:37:52.000
The nation is about more than just a rational attachment.
00:37:56.160
It is imbued into it as an idea of heritage, of ancestry, and of awe, right?
00:38:03.000
I don't want a bunch of brutalist, non-nothing monuments around symbolizing nothingness.
00:38:10.620
I want to see my father of confederation as I walk down Canada's Champs-Élysées, which is University Avenue over here, you know.
00:38:18.700
And there's going to be a hunger and thirst for the beautiful and this idea that is transcendent, that connects us to our past and pave some sort of a way for our future.
00:38:29.700
We are not atomized creatures, as the individualists and the civic nationalists would have you believe.
00:38:43.200
You know, you always hear, oh, don't worry, guys.
00:38:45.800
You know, nothing's going to change if you're a minority.
00:38:47.860
Don't worry, you know, meanwhile, your statues are coming down, Shakespeare's being attacked, the signs are in a different language.
00:38:57.860
I can't believe people don't understand that demographics is everything.
00:39:04.960
The other thing, too, as we're talking about nationalism, there's this misconception that if we're talking about an ethnic-based or ancestral-based nationalism, that there won't be some kind of minorities there.
00:39:17.700
And we're not talking about, oh, we're going to just go round them up and deport them now.
00:39:20.460
No, but we want the natives to be the majority.
00:39:24.140
There will be some people that aren't of that, you know, native stock, but they need to be a smaller percentage of the population.
00:39:34.260
And like you adequately pointed out, it's allowed for every other country.
00:39:40.320
So I just I don't see why this is a controversial idea.
00:39:44.220
For me, I put it very, very plainly, just a simple majority.
00:39:48.220
We'd like to remain a simple majority because if all immigration stops right now, whites are still going to be Europeans, as I like to say, frankly, a minority in America within a generation, essentially.
00:39:59.260
In Canada, I mean, I did a video about this some time ago when I was back at The Rebel, but white Europeans in Canada are going to be less than 20 percent in just 80 years.
00:40:11.260
And that's according to Statistics Canada and international demographers.
00:40:14.760
That's not some, you know, LARPy right wing site.
00:40:19.000
And so you say, well, a population that is now 75 percent is going to be reduced to somewhere between 12 to 20 percent.
00:40:28.460
You tell me that their interests will be protected.
00:40:32.580
You tell me that things are going to continue on the regular trend.
00:40:37.200
And look no further than California to see what happens.
00:40:44.660
It's going to be shifting blue within the next basically a generation as well.
00:40:50.840
And I think conservative Inc. are the ones who really need to get the wake up call and hop on top of the nationalism, the true nationalism train right now, because you're civic, you're civic hucking, as Lauren has coined the term.
00:41:06.380
It's demographic suicide for Republicans to continue to think that their party is going to have any sort of relevance in 30 years from now.
00:41:16.280
They're going to be voted out of office, as are the liberal.
00:41:19.280
It's ours of the conservatives north of the 49th here.
00:41:26.420
Well, one other thing, you know, some have said to, well, you know, the colonies, America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, that they're not allowed to retain a European majority because they're newer countries, which is kind of funny because when we talk about Israel, but in South Sudan, Eritrea, there's a lot of new countries where their ethnicity is still the majority.
00:41:46.020
So what do you think about that, that, oh, we can't be a majority because we're a newer country?
00:41:51.580
Well, this country was founded by and for Europeans, and I refuse to feel sorry for it, to feel sorry about being a nationalist.
00:41:58.400
And I do agree with faith that we need to make our voices heard at the ballot box.
00:42:02.100
But personally, that's not what I'm going to be doing.
00:42:04.540
I'm not planning on becoming a politician or anything.
00:42:06.820
I just want to spread the message of nationalism.
00:42:09.000
And I think that question of, oh, well, it's a new country is one of these questions that is asked in bad faith, similarly to the question, what is white?
00:42:18.120
Because that's what they always ask when you say we need to preserve.
00:42:24.200
No, you don't ask if I'm white when you're deciding if I'm going to get benefits for affirmative action.
00:42:28.060
You don't ask if I'm white when they're doing a, when they're deciding who's white in prison or not and doing demographics there.
00:42:33.540
But all of a sudden, when it's we need to preserve our countries, it's, oh, yeah, what even is white?
00:42:38.040
You're going to look at me and say, I can't tell.
00:42:43.280
And I really, I have no idea what's going on there.
00:42:46.020
People tell me I'm really Asian because I'm of Russian heritage.
00:42:53.820
Yeah, no, with respect to the newer argument, I think it's a load of crock because, of course, all of the foundings of our nations by European settlers and great European men was rooted in heritage.
00:43:06.500
And a heritage that was adopted and transcended from older nations and already formed people.
00:43:15.380
And we should recall the fact that all of the founding fathers, and again, I'm much more acquainted with the American and Canadian histories, had a vision as to how these countries would play out.
00:43:27.580
And that includes their values and their virtues, but include also the character of their nation.
00:43:33.400
And they were unabashed about how strict their immigration policy would look, specifically to preserve the character of our nation.
00:43:44.220
And in a relatively recent timeline, when you look at the overall trajectory and history of our countries, and it was all done without any sort of conversation nationally.
00:43:58.620
It was done in many cases with foreign interests and influence affecting all of these decisions.
00:44:06.960
And at the end of the day, it's been injected into our nation.
00:44:10.560
And it's had a headstand effect on how things are going to go going forward.
00:44:15.940
And so I think it's insane for us to pretend that this multi-culti, mavalius illustration of how the nation should be is one that is in any way true to the essence of our nations.
00:44:29.900
This was a blueprint that was inflicted on a non-multicultural, a rather homogenous peoples, and without any sort of consensus or consent.
00:44:49.680
And I'd like to at least open up the floodgates to having some conversation, because I think a lot of folks would be surprised at the fact that, frankly, the majority are with us and not the civicox.
00:45:02.820
And it's because of ladies like you that are vocal about it and saying, it's okay to think like us.
00:45:07.680
You'll be supported because there's millions of us that think like that.
00:45:12.920
This is what we're doing, and this is what it's going to be moving forward.
00:45:15.660
So I want to thank you both for your hard work.
00:45:19.560
But before I let you go, I want to hear about your future plans and what you have going on.
00:45:32.360
And there may or may not be one of myself and Lauren soon.
00:45:37.380
And you can find me on Twitter, at Faith Goldie as well.
00:45:40.380
I'm going to be doing some investigative work while I'm there as well.
00:45:43.380
But for the next couple of videos, it's probably going to be some more political philosophy stuff,
00:45:49.600
And so I just want to kind of air out any of my intellectual laundry before moving forward
00:45:52.960
in a here and now way to make sure that we keep our dogma alive with facts that are relevant
00:46:05.900
You can find me on my channel at Lauren Rose and definitely keep an eye out for a possible
00:46:15.180
I'm actually just finishing up my semester here at school.
00:46:20.240
But, you know, there's that nice winter break and I'm going to get to put out a lot more
00:46:25.020
Just more and more content promoting nationalism.
00:46:28.860
I'm currently in business, but I may or may not be changing that very soon.
00:46:37.840
It's been a blast and we'll have to do it again sometime in the near future.
00:46:46.160
It already rightfully exists for non-European peoples across the globe.
00:46:49.560
And it will exist again for European peoples, too.
00:46:52.420
No matter how much globalists force the multi-cult in our face, it won't stick because nothing
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00:47:04.520
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