Radio 3Fourteen - November 30, 2017


Debunking the Claim that Nationalism Is Hostile Towards Women


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In this episode, I sit down with a panel of women in their 30s to talk about nationalism, identitarianism, or whatever label you want to use, from a female perspective. We talk about what it means to be a woman in the 21st century and why it s so hard to get married at a young age.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, thanks for tuning in. I'm Lana and I'm back after a four month break taking care of our very
00:00:19.160 active baby. Still not getting much sleep, but of course babies bring so much joy to the house.
00:00:24.880 So for this show, I invited a few gals to talk about nationalism, identitarianism,
00:00:31.100 whatever label you want to use, from a female perspective. Because a press has been saying 1.00
00:00:35.820 that women such as myself are supporting a movement that is hostile to our own interests.
00:00:40.960 We'll talk about how they're absolutely wrong, so stick around. All right, I guess I'll skip the
00:00:45.800 long introductions because most people know everyone on the panel, except for Kirsten Lauren.
00:00:50.560 Kirsten Lauren, you're new, so say hello. Hi, I'm really excited to be here. I love red eyes.
00:00:57.880 Ayla, say hi. Ayla, and then Brie. Hey guys, thanks for having me back. And Philosopher Cats.
00:01:03.900 Hi, thanks for inviting me. There's actually several more, unfortunately, that they couldn't
00:01:07.900 join, but we'll just say hi, you're missed. So I want to do a quick demographic, you know,
00:01:12.340 poll of this roundtable. So say yes if you're in your 20s. In your 30s. I just aged myself.
00:01:18.160 In your 30s. Okay, so we're all in our 30s. It ended up on this panel. Okay, cool. So we're all
00:01:23.120 in our 30s, and then we have a teen in the mix, a 19-year-old. Say hi. Well, almost. Next month I'll
00:01:29.360 be 20. Oh, okay, you'll be 20. My mom was actually married at your age and having a child. That's
00:01:36.720 amazing, huh? Different times. Well, you know, I'm hoping that that might be in the future.
00:01:43.420 Well, that's great. You know, yeah, if you're lucky enough to meet someone, unfortunately,
00:01:47.760 you know, some of us have been getting married later. I know a lot of girls are getting married 1.00
00:01:52.220 at 28, 29. Lots of girls that are engaged right now, but it just seems like it takes 0.65
00:01:56.820 longer to meet the right guy. Do you guys have any reasons why you think that is?
00:02:02.940 Few reasons, I would say. I think for one, it has a lot to do with the lack of morality in society
00:02:10.440 these days, because we become an increasingly secular society. So we're not really raised with
00:02:15.940 these moral qualities. And then it also takes an incredible person to go against the current
00:02:22.220 of, you know, this degenerate MSM, you know, this sort of like degenerate culture, this state 0.95
00:02:30.720 that most people live in. And so I think that most people who are younger and married are either,
00:02:36.580 one, incredibly rebellious and have that sort of conviction, or they're just, you know,
00:02:43.700 it's not they're not really average anymore. So that's one reason I would say it's also seen as
00:02:47.980 like the not hip thing to do. If you guys notice that, like whenever I see kids getting married
00:02:53.160 early on, when I was younger, I would think why you got so many things to do out there,
00:02:57.500 you could go in the headliner for a company or something, go out and pursue a career. And I was also
00:03:04.880 told that lie that don't worry, you can wait, there's plenty of time, wait to your mid 30s,
00:03:09.120 you don't have to have kids right away. It's not necessary. It was just always put it off,
00:03:14.080 put it off, put it off. But as I got older, I realized, wow, I actually do have, my fertility
00:03:20.200 does have an expiration date, I need to get moving on things. So I was pretty much told from a young
00:03:25.860 age, just put it off, get a career, make sure you can take care of yourself before you try taking
00:03:29.940 care of anyone else. I think that one of the reasons I started my Twitter activism and my
00:03:34.740 YouTube was simply because younger girls aren't even being told they have that option. It's not
00:03:39.260 even an option that's on the table. Like when I was growing up, it was kind of like, well, you could
00:03:43.080 get married, but that's like the less desirable option, because you should have a career. And now
00:03:48.140 I really honestly run across girls that are from, you know, between 20 and 25, who were raised being
00:03:53.460 told that, you know, getting married, I mean, that wasn't even on the table as an option that was never
00:03:57.460 presented to them by their parents, but you know, by their single mother, usually, or by the school
00:04:02.160 system or anything that that they could even get married and have a family, let alone young, that
00:04:06.980 wasn't even considered an option. Yeah, and the thing is, like, you can get married, you can have kids,
00:04:11.280 you can do those things, if you're lucky enough to meet the right person young, but it doesn't mean
00:04:14.260 you still can't, you can't have an education, or you can't have other interests. It's just about
00:04:17.940 prioritizing and planning, I think, for that season of your life, what you need to do, right?
00:04:22.660 Yeah, that's true. I mean, I have a graduate degree, and I was married throughout my entire
00:04:26.880 college experience, so you don't have to, you know, you don't have to pick one or the other either.
00:04:33.040 Well, there were several other women that can join today who are, they're all engaged, you know, 0.94
00:04:38.000 so they're planning on having babies pretty soon. They're in their late 20s. I'm curious to see how
00:04:42.940 a lot of the content creators, the females in our circle, how it's really going to change once they
00:04:48.420 have babies. So any predictions? Brie, how do you think you're going to change once you have a baby?
00:04:52.640 Well, I could definitely see my output kind of declining a little bit, because once I start
00:04:57.560 having children, I do want them to be my entire focus, which I'm sure that will just be the demand
00:05:03.820 of the day, because they'll be crying and pooping and screaming. Yeah, they'll just need a ton of
00:05:09.380 attention. I've got plenty of friends who are mothers who tell me I won't have time to have my
00:05:13.340 own life anymore. I still want to maintain having a certain level of output. Maybe it'll just change to
00:05:18.760 one video a week or just a podcast, be a guest on this other person's podcast or something. I definitely
00:05:25.640 don't want to quit. I just might have to change how I do things in order to maintain a particular
00:05:31.460 kind of schedule where maybe all I can afford to do on a particular day is a blog post. Okay, today I have
00:05:38.600 a whole 10 minutes where I don't have barf on my shirt. I can do a quick little video about this thing
00:05:42.980 going on in the news. So it's really just about managing your time, I think, once you have kids,
00:05:47.860 because they do take up all your time. And I want my children and my family to be my main focus once
00:05:53.340 I get started on that. Ailyn, I was thinking, trust me, when you have that 10 minutes, you're going to
00:05:56.840 be wanting to take a nap. I thought that too, like in the beginning, like, oh, okay, when the baby's
00:06:04.400 sleeping, I can do this and that and that and that. And then I learned real quick, like, no, you can't do
00:06:07.800 that because you're going to collapse and be a zombie like all day. You have to sleep when the baby's
00:06:11.740 sleeping in the beginning, you know? Anyway, there was this Harper's Magazine cover story,
00:06:16.840 mentioned several of us. It was eight pages long. My gods. I just kind of skimmed, skimmed through it
00:06:23.140 because I couldn't really take a lot of the emanation about it. But the whole gist of it
00:06:26.600 basically is that women like us, we're supporting a movement that's hostile to our interests, right? 0.99
00:06:31.900 That is going to be bad for us in the end, which is laughable to me. So I kind of wanted to discuss
00:06:36.680 this and debunk this idea a little bit. Obviously, this article was picked up by
00:06:41.180 tons of other media outlets who basically they just say the same thing. They just rehash the
00:06:46.300 same thing. It was mostly hostile, kind of bitter leftist female journalists who are running with 1.00
00:06:51.080 this. Hey, these women support a movement that's hostile to their interests, which is funny because 1.00
00:06:55.520 a year ago they were saying that our movement had no women. But thanks to, you know, all of the
00:06:59.900 women like you, now they're forced to confront the fact that actually there is a lot of women in the 1.00
00:07:05.040 nationalist scene, the anti-leftist, anti-globalist scene. And we are fed up and we are
00:07:10.380 showing our faces now. But now they're really kind of trying to come out and say that, oh,
00:07:15.420 actually, they're really seek. They're actually feminists, but they don't realize that basically 1.00
00:07:19.940 all the success that we have, the only reason why we're able to be vocal and out there is because of
00:07:25.520 these feminists in the 1900s, because before that, women were oppressed. So what do you guys think of
00:07:29.700 that idea? The idea that the movement is hostile to women is something that's perpetuated by a fairly
00:07:36.180 vocal minority. Most men in the movement and out of the movement do have a lot of respect for women.
00:07:43.880 They treat women like people. But I think there's always kind of been this fringe element in the
00:07:49.640 movement that's been very hostile to women. However, are they really nationalist? If you hate half your
00:07:56.000 race, how can you say that you're pro-white? Yeah. And I've noticed that over the last, say, three or four 0.99
00:08:02.080 years, as our beliefs have started to become kind of more mainstream, these people are sort of falling
00:08:07.780 to the fringe of even our movement. And eventually, I think they're just going to have to go find
00:08:11.000 another soapbox to stand on, because I just don't see them. You're not going to gain any ground as a 1.00
00:08:17.000 nationalist by promoting hatred of half your race. I think that it's really ironic that the author of
00:08:22.420 this piece, one of the first things she does in the first couple paragraphs of this is dox my full
00:08:26.980 name. When I spoke with her, I was very clear that I didn't want my full name used, because
00:08:32.260 the combination is so easy to find me. And the first thing she does, I think it's on the second
00:08:38.440 paragraph down, is use my full name. And then she's going to assert in this article that I need to fear
00:08:44.460 the men in my own movement, when she's the one doxing me to the entire world. And, you know,
00:08:51.380 having people, you know, are now looking up my house and posting pictures online, and my kids can't go
00:08:56.140 outside and play. And then she's going to pretend like I'm the victim of my own people, when I'm 0.91
00:09:01.000 actually the victim of people like her. And I think one of the most important things to point
00:09:05.020 out from my point of view is, yeah, I've definitely had those kind of MGTOW, the men going their own 0.95
00:09:09.480 way sort of people that are on the very fringe of the old, right? And they've called me names or
00:09:13.760 whatever online. But I have never, ever once had them post my personal information. I've never had them
00:09:19.720 actually come to my house, or do anything like that. And the only people within,
00:09:25.600 within the movement that have that, that have posted my personal information without my
00:09:30.900 permission, were women. And especially on the left, this the leftist side, in our enemy side,
00:09:37.720 the people that have most viciously attacked me on that side have also and put my family the most
00:09:42.400 risk have also been women. Yeah, women have been the worst, all the most amount of hate that 1.00
00:09:47.640 women like us are getting are from these leftist women. It's outrageous. So obviously, 1.00
00:09:52.520 being a feminist is not about being pro woman, it's about being a globalist, a leftist, and just 1.00
00:09:59.580 pushing that filth constantly. And if you don't get in line, well, then we're coming after you. And I
00:10:03.860 had told this woman specifically, that the reason why a lot of women were, were, you know, afraid to
00:10:10.700 get involved in this movement is because of the violence is because of the doxing is because of
00:10:14.400 what it does to your reputation to come out and do these things. I mean, women like us do get 1.00
00:10:18.960 death threats, rape threats. I mean, these are leftist men, leftist women celebrating that. So I
00:10:25.020 mean, come on, they're not pro women. And they look at our movement. And it's just funny, because
00:10:29.140 they say that our movement is anti women, but they actually support communism, which is like 0.90
00:10:35.520 raped loss of women, there's been starvation, there's been murder. I mean, that's a whole can
00:10:40.960 of worms there. And then of course, Islam, where they literally stone women to death, and it's legal 1.00
00:10:45.160 to rape women, and they have to wear burqas. But they never go after those movements, do they? We 0.97
00:10:50.020 should go back a little bit, because we have new people coming on all the time. So it's good to
00:10:54.080 always go through the basics and kind of define things. So I want each one of you to just really
00:10:58.080 define what movement is it that you're a part of? What do you call the movements? Brie, we'll start
00:11:03.560 with you. To me, the movement in general is just what's most in line with reality. It's a movement
00:11:10.440 that's willing to discuss things like demographics, and human biodiversity, and gender roles and
00:11:16.000 traditionalism. It's everything in the world that has already been deemed sane. Therefore,
00:11:21.200 it's everything that the neocons and the leftists want to destroy, because it's about going after
00:11:26.220 things that are in balance with the world in order to create that chaos, to break down society,
00:11:32.540 to reform a new utopia that they think is going to magically appear after they get rid of all 0.96
00:11:38.420 the evil people, the wrongdoers, such as ourselves. So to me, this movement really is just everything
00:11:43.780 that's totally in line with nature, in line with science, in line with reality. And it wants to
00:11:51.200 get rid of these harmful aspects of egalitarianism that lie to women, consistently lie to women and
00:11:58.220 young boys, telling young women, you can put off having children, you can have it all, go ahead,
00:12:04.320 put your child in daycare, go ahead and work till you're 35, and then start looking for a man.
00:12:09.120 By the way, the wicked evil patriarchy must be brought down, even though the patriarchy has
00:12:13.760 provided for women for centuries. And there wouldn't be a roof to collapse if the men didn't
00:12:19.280 build that house for you in the first place. So to me, it's just a movement in general that is most
00:12:23.780 in line with reality and what has worked well to provide and protect women for centuries. 0.97
00:12:30.940 Philosophicate? How do you define this movement you're a part of?
00:12:34.320 Um, I really struggle to put a label on it, to be honest. First and foremost, I would just say
00:12:41.080 I'm, I'm pro white. So is this good for white people? That's the first question in my mind. 0.86
00:12:46.760 Everything else is secondary. I think an existential crisis, that's not really the time to arguing
00:12:53.520 about economic and social policy that may or may not happen in this ethno state we may or may not ever
00:12:59.700 get. So like, I don't mind the term identitarian, I suppose it's probably the one that I personally
00:13:07.040 most identify with. Um, but I don't really, I kind of see this as being like, this is just natural for
00:13:15.180 people to have this in-group preference. And it just seems so strange that we have to put this label
00:13:19.760 on it and call it a movement. This is how people have always behaved for thousands of years. And
00:13:25.760 then suddenly we're the weird ones and we're part of this counterculture movement. Yeah. I don't like
00:13:32.000 the idea of putting a label on it, to be honest. Yeah. I've become quite anti-labels myself simply
00:13:37.580 because the media twists, degrades, um, degrades those sorts of labels, but I would call myself a
00:13:44.100 traditionalist. And that to me just means the restoration and preservation of traditional values.
00:13:50.360 And that would include values that I think that, um, both Greene spoke about and also Vlasicat spoke
00:13:56.840 about, um, as far as being, you know, um, within harmony of the natural order, you know, backed up by
00:14:03.180 science, what common sense, what we know to be true. And also, um, for people who are white to,
00:14:08.740 you know, being pro white, well, obviously everybody to be pro their people, their family.
00:14:14.060 It's a little bit of a loaded question because I fear me going off on a tangent specifically
00:14:18.520 because I have not yet defined publicly. But if you, yeah, if you quickly could, you, you meet a
00:14:24.620 newcomer. What do you say? Okay. Um, I would say I'm a monarchist. I'm also somebody who, um,
00:14:31.360 I highly believe in tribalism, like in a layman's term, tribalism.
00:14:36.800 Okay. So let's, let's move on to the next thing. I mean, as women with our views, 0.99
00:14:40.520 what are our interests? We're told that we're supporting movement that's hostile to our
00:14:44.500 interests, but these women don't even really ask what our interests are, or they think that 1.00
00:14:49.260 being a housewife is some kind of oppression or something, right? So who wants to start, you know,
00:14:55.360 as a woman, what are your interests in this movement? Vlasicat, you want to start with you? 1.00
00:15:01.360 Yeah, sure. I, I don't see how our interests are that different from the men in our movement. I,
00:15:07.180 we, we all want to be happy. We all want to have security from having our homelands invaded. We,
00:15:13.920 we don't want to pay these high taxes that go to groups that are detrimental to our society.
00:15:19.100 We want self-determination. We want sovereignty. So if you love your nation, then the interests of
00:15:25.160 men and women, I think are pretty much the same. It's also in our interest not to face demographic 1.00
00:15:29.440 decline where we have hordes and hordes of migrants coming in. If I see a bunch of migrants coming over 1.00
00:15:35.140 our fence, I see a threat. So our best interest is to close the border. Our best interest is to
00:15:41.220 preserve our bloodline and to make sure that our genetics aren't lost in the tides of time.
00:15:45.840 And when I look at my ancestors and all they had to go through to get here, because I've done my
00:15:50.340 ancestry back to like the 10th century, I think to myself, I owe it to them to keep my line going.
00:15:56.420 That's in my family's best interest. And that's also going to keep me safe because it's going to
00:16:00.480 require me to make sacrifices where I don't always put myself first and I'm going to need to get a
00:16:05.200 loving husband and I'm going to need to have some babies. And that's what it's in my best interest to
00:16:10.360 protect myself and my future lineage. Yeah, I think as a mom of six, I mean, my best interest
00:16:15.880 and my thoughts immediately go to my children. And so I need a secure environment for my children.
00:16:20.960 And that means, you know, both I need a house with, you know, heating and electricity and I need
00:16:26.800 medical, you know, access to medical care for my kids. But then I also need a safe environment and
00:16:31.200 I need to be able to send, you know, my kid to be able to walk to the library or something like this
00:16:36.340 without fear of them being assaulted and attacked because they have to walk through the quote
00:16:41.660 unquote bad neighborhood, which is usually full of immigrants and things like that. So, you know, 1.00
00:16:47.060 I would want a system that supports, you know, medical advances, technological advances that keep
00:16:54.540 my family secure in that sense. And then a system that would, you know, close the border and make sure
00:17:01.320 that we are physically safe and as well as economically safe, whatever economic system
00:17:06.180 that is in the time that, you know, the time period we are that benefits so that my husband has a job
00:17:11.680 so that I can raise boys that, you know, have a future to look towards and can, you know, build a
00:17:18.040 career and support their own family and support my grandchildren. You know, these are the systems
00:17:22.860 that are important to me and the, you know, the alt-right, alternative right, monarchy, you know,
00:17:29.700 neo-reactionary, all of these traditionalist movements we're talking about today. Those are the only ones
00:17:35.020 that represent those interests for me. I agree. And for me, retaining a white majority is my top 0.98
00:17:40.120 interest. Otherwise, Western, in other words, Western civilization. I think that white men are 0.87
00:17:45.820 the protectors and the providers of women. And I think what would it be like if we as white women 0.99
00:17:51.560 were a minority in a civilization that was ruled by Africans or Islamic men? I mean, we can look to
00:17:58.040 their cultures to see how women are actually treated. They're actually true rape cultures there. 1.00
00:18:02.740 So, number one, that is a big interest. I need a white majority. Also, as you were saying, Ayla, 0.98
00:18:08.280 you know, peace, safety, order, first world conditions. We want things to work. And then we
00:18:14.460 can actually have time to, you know, expand our minds and be carefree with our children when we
00:18:18.460 don't have to worry about violence and when we can have running water and electricity and first world
00:18:23.120 things. And these are things really that white men and white majority, Western civilization provides 0.54
00:18:30.060 for us. So that is a huge interest for us. And really, nationalism wants to secure those things.
00:18:36.800 Yeah, exactly. And I think historically, if we want to know what happens to white or Caucasian 0.58
00:18:40.860 women under Islamic rule, I mean, there are plenty of places in the Middle East, Egypt being one of 1.00
00:18:46.200 them, Syria being one of them, Turkey being one of them that used to be white countries or Caucasian
00:18:50.620 countries. And, you know, the Arabs took them over. And there aren't any white women left, 0.95
00:18:56.400 you know, they were all subjugated and raped and, you know, assimilated into that population. 0.99
00:19:03.040 That's right. And so really, when we look into it, why I'm saying nationalism is actually good for
00:19:07.440 women, it provides safety, order, peace, I think a sense of community, it values family,
00:19:15.140 there's a desire for, you know, excellence, there's a desire for beauty, some of the best, the finest art,
00:19:20.860 music, fashion has come from more nationalistic countries, there's a mission, there's a purpose,
00:19:26.900 there's a pursuit of truth and a spiritual experience, all these things that I feel
00:19:32.040 nationalism provides, whereas globalism is nothing. It's McDonald's and Gap and shopping. And also,
00:19:39.440 I want to add communism. Yeah, like I said earlier, it's been disastrous for women, if we're going to 1.00
00:19:42.920 compare systems. Look at all the women that were raped under communism, also, especially throughout
00:19:47.680 Germany, you know, when the commies came and invaded, starvation, there's been murder, 0.75
00:19:52.280 my family lived through it. Not a good system for women, okay? Not a good system. Islam, like we've 1.00
00:19:57.980 gone over. So what are some other ways that you ladies think nationalism is good for women and 0.99
00:20:02.360 benefits them? Well, I sort of am inclined to think that when you said the McDonald's of culture,
00:20:09.800 I was thinking like, hey, that sort of makes me think, what do we really need in life? What really
00:20:16.800 provides us with consolation? And that is home. And home is not a physical building. Home is sort of,
00:20:24.160 you know, you're surrounded by your own people. You know, when you mix culture together,
00:20:27.820 and you mix it, you know, and you try to say, oh, no, we're all the same. Well, what does that
00:20:32.540 really do? What does equality do to all those cultures? It waters them down. And it makes them 0.96
00:20:38.460 compromise. It makes them compromise the uniqueness, even in a European sense.
00:20:43.760 Yeah, great. It's very basic, but a lot of people don't get this very basic concept that actually
00:20:48.400 globalism kills diversity. Nationalism is trying to preserve it. It's really quite basic, but we have
00:20:54.220 to repeat this over and over again. So that's another plus to nationalism. So anyone else want
00:20:59.180 to chime in? What are some other ways that nationalism is good for us and women specifically, too?
00:21:03.900 I'd actually agree with that, you know, nationalism protects the integrity of our race. And we used to
00:21:10.560 have these geographical borders that would have been sufficient to protect us. And we don't have
00:21:15.520 that now. So I think we need to have that mindset that this is what we want to protect. So instead of
00:21:21.980 having, you know, our borders have been destroyed, essentially, we need to kind of have those internal
00:21:27.940 borders in our minds that this is something that's worth saving. And we we need to think about
00:21:32.300 this. Now, it's not just going to happen because we have a geographical barrier between us and them.
00:21:36.780 Mm hmm. Nationalism also gives us a sense of defense and situational awareness, where we know
00:21:43.740 what's going on outside our borders, where we'd actually have well constructed borders that turn
00:21:49.420 people away. We would know more, at least I would like to think about what's going on outside those
00:21:54.960 borders, because we'd hear maybe more about the crimes. And we'd see what's happening to cultures,
00:22:01.620 particularly post majority white cultures, like in South Africa, that let their borders be completely
00:22:07.480 disposed of. And they sought after equality. And now we have these farmers that are being brutally
00:22:13.800 murdered. So if we had those borders, I think we'd be more inclined to see what's what's happening
00:22:18.540 outside those borders, rather than just equivalize it all. And as you so rightly put before, just water
00:22:24.820 down everything and anything, it would give us a sense of pride, because we would see,
00:22:29.180 finally see how good we have it here in the West, as opposed to what's happening outside those
00:22:34.320 borders.
00:22:34.960 It's funny, because a lot of these writers, like Sayward, she had said something about,
00:22:40.360 well, what about world redistribution? And I said, well, that's communism, right? World wealth
00:22:44.900 redistribution. And she's like, uh-huh. She's like, literally, literally defending communism right at
00:22:51.700 that point. I'm like, okay, this is this is not gonna work, you know. But it's funny, because even the
00:22:56.000 communism that she's defending, if you go back, looking at Russia, or China, or, you know, North
00:23:01.560 Korea, they're still actually, a long time ago, and now they're still very nationalistic. They're
00:23:06.120 almost like ethno-state communists, you know what I mean? What's happening now has never happened
00:23:12.500 before. Well, I guess if it did happen before, and like, we can look at terms of like, civic
00:23:17.200 nationalism, did Rome become civic nationalist? Or did Greece become that? Egypt become that way? And
00:23:23.140 what happened? It all just fell apart, really. Well, how do we see ourselves, you know, just
00:23:28.320 thinking again, this attack on us, as women, because of our views, which are really quite
00:23:33.600 natural and normal. And as we've said, this is how it's been for since forever, really. How do we see
00:23:39.400 ourselves fitting into our ideal society? Oh, I've always said that my ideal society would be socially
00:23:46.880 quite a bit like the Amish. It would be very simple, humble families, large family groups, and we would
00:23:52.880 have a cohesive culture that that and race for the most part that bound us all together. Something
00:24:00.260 that we were working towards that encompassed not only what our ancestors had fought so hard to give
00:24:06.460 us, but also was something we were passing along to our children. But then also something that unlike
00:24:11.240 the Amish, it was not pacifist, something that's very militaristic, that is serious about protecting
00:24:17.560 the community from the outside threats of the world. And that had a strong military, some sort of
00:24:24.280 defense, a very strong one that kept up technologically with opposing forces in the world,
00:24:30.020 and was very unapologetic about putting the people that live within its population first,
00:24:35.820 and protecting them first and foremost, and then aiding other people outside of its borders,
00:24:41.400 you know, if and when possible, and when practical. And then as far as my fitting in in that society,
00:24:48.260 obviously, I would want to be a wife and a mother and eventually a grandmother and play my part as
00:24:55.080 that link in a chain of women that was really holding all of this together from the female side of 0.69
00:25:02.340 things. You know, the link from, you know, having been passed down from my mother to me, and then
00:25:06.820 passing that down to my daughters and granddaughters, and teaching them traditions and values, and a love
00:25:14.400 of self, as far as loving who they are, and how God made them, as well as their ancestors and their
00:25:21.320 future posterity as well.
00:25:22.940 Let's see, that's beautiful. What's wrong with that? Why do you get attacked for that? I mean,
00:25:26.960 this is insanity, people. Ayla is getting attacked as like a terrorist on Twitter. My God, she's got 0.96
00:25:33.500 pictures of baking cookies, and this is flagged for fascism, you know? I mean, this is the insanity
00:25:39.780 that we're dealing with here. It's outrageous.
00:25:42.520 I dare to say we should make more white babies, right? 1.00
00:25:44.680 I did. I know. It's so controversial. Yeah, I dare to say white people should have children. 0.98
00:25:50.820 And yeah, I'm basically on like the terror watch list now. 0.98
00:25:54.880 When whites date other whites, that's evil, right? We need to race mix, right? Otherwise... 0.99
00:25:59.500 Well, that's literally what they're saying, that the family unit... No, this is for reals, 0.96
00:26:04.000 folks. A lot of white feminists and Jewish and other anti-white feminists are writing that 1.00
00:26:08.980 literally the white family unit is supporting white supremacy, so the white family unit must 0.99
00:26:14.700 be destroyed. We're not talking about blacks, we're not talking about Asians, but white families 0.99
00:26:18.860 in particular. I mean, this is insanity. This is why we're out here. This is why we're fighting, 0.99
00:26:23.460 because this is insanity. And if we don't speak up against this now, it's going to come for
00:26:27.620 your children. And how are you going to feel about that when you say, I didn't do anything?
00:26:31.020 As a woman, I would love to be able to just, you know, do things around the house and feed 1.00
00:26:36.500 my other creative interests and spend time with children. But that's not the times that
00:26:40.080 we live in, because now we're all called. Now we're all called to say something against
00:26:43.520 the system and speak out and be loud about it, because it is a system that, you know, this
00:26:48.200 anti-white system that wants to come after our children, that wants to destroy their future. 0.99
00:26:51.960 Yeah, having white male children, I mean, my first three were white boys. And that was
00:26:57.880 really crucial to me. I think it opened my eyes more so than if my first had been girls,
00:27:03.020 because I watched our world and how they were treating white males and how there was just
00:27:08.620 absolutely, literally no place in society for them anymore. And that made me as a mother go,
00:27:13.960 I either have to speak up and recreate, you know, help be part of the movement that recreates a
00:27:19.120 place for my boys, or they're going to end up these lost boys that we see now committing suicide
00:27:24.400 on drugs, you know, in prison, all of these negative things that we see happening to our
00:27:30.860 young men. That is right. And we talked earlier about, you know, why we're doing this. And if we
00:27:37.180 have kids, we're going to back off a little bit. But I figure by doing this, and by having a teensy
00:27:41.820 bit of activism online, just by showing our faces out there and saying, yes, there are women in this
00:27:46.240 movement, movement, we're putting a footprint out there. So if things really do collapse in the
00:27:51.860 future, and the society just completely folds over, there's at least a sign out there that someone out
00:27:57.560 there spoke out against it, and tried to put a little bit of sanity back in the world. And that's
00:28:03.220 all that I really want. I just even if even if worst case scenario, we were to fail. I want there to be
00:28:08.340 some kind of footprint out there to show people know, some of us did see what was coming. And we did fight
00:28:14.040 for our children. Yeah, we have to keep it alive. Because right now, they're literally rewriting
00:28:19.520 history. And that's part of what happens when Islam takes over, but also communism, leftism, 0.96
00:28:24.400 all these ideologies that are a threat to us. They literally rewrite our history, we've seen them,
00:28:28.920 they're tearing down our statues, they're pulling down our churches, they're going online and erasing,
00:28:34.020 I know people who were pro white activists who, you know, a couple decades ago, and they're literally
00:28:38.240 going and taking down their Wikipedia page as these men get into their 80s and 90s and are dying,
00:28:42.340 because they don't want people to know they ever even spoke on these topics. They don't want that
00:28:47.220 information out there. And I think it's up to us to just continue to be speaking out and making sure
00:28:53.380 that that information stays in some form, because they're taking us down as much as they can and just
00:28:58.360 completely erasing it and rewriting everything that's ever happened. That's right. It's like you have
00:29:03.500 to keep archives within your family, like even all your shows, all your stuff you're doing, you have to pass
00:29:08.720 these down generation by generation, have your own history books, so they get the true story of what
00:29:14.060 actually happened. You're right, because the censorship is unprecedented. This has never happened
00:29:18.680 ever before. I mean, there hasn't been the internet like this. But our group specifically, every day I
00:29:24.040 hear about people that are censored or kicked off Twitter, and now they're really coming after us in
00:29:28.200 different ways. I mean, they are trying really, really hard to shut us down, ice us out and just
00:29:33.840 silence our voices completely. How do you ladies think that this is going to shake out?
00:29:38.660 I think that we're going to have to exile ourselves in a sense. And that doesn't necessarily mean not
00:29:46.440 fighting. I think we can't really we can't really exile and hide, though, because they'll come for
00:29:50.760 you. It's not the world that we live in anymore. You know, you have to really fight in the mainstream,
00:29:55.180 you have to band together. There requires a bit of collectivism here to fight this collective
00:30:01.960 that's anti white. That's I mean, they will definitely come for you, especially if you're 1.00
00:30:06.180 isolated by yourself on this little farm that is like sitting ducks, you know?
00:30:11.280 Well, I meant like more in a sense as learn how to defend your family, for example, learn how to
00:30:17.540 defend your people and intentionally create a environment for your children that transcends your 0.92
00:30:25.000 own life that's going to be sustaining. I think that's the most important thing you can do.
00:30:29.680 Yeah, I think having a foot in both places, you know, you have to raise your kids to know all the
00:30:35.440 dirt that's out there to be aware of, you know, cultural Marxism to show it to them and explain
00:30:40.540 it to them when it when it's there, right? So you can't just isolate them. But then also, I think
00:30:45.240 it is good to go back to nature to have those farms. We have to kind of have a foot in in two
00:30:49.980 places, I think is what it would be ideal. At least that's how I see it. Yep. Now, Brie,
00:30:54.320 I want to get back to you also, because you didn't get to answer that. Now, how do you see
00:30:57.960 yourselves fitting into our ideal society? Because I know, Philosophica, you're not really
00:31:03.700 much of a homemaker. So, you know, look, I don't have anything against doing the whole thing. But
00:31:10.940 it's, look, cooking and cleaning just doesn't really excite me that much. I do like, I do like
00:31:17.100 children. I have worked with children a lot. But I do find that it's very draining to be around
00:31:23.380 children for me all day. I do need a break. Um, that said, I, I would like to see a society where
00:31:29.360 women who want to have children and who want to be mothers are supported in doing that and that
00:31:33.300 they are, you know, they feel like they're making a good contribution to society because they're doing
00:31:38.440 that. But I also want there to be, I guess I'd like for there to be some acceptance as well,
00:31:46.760 of, you know, women who are, you know, exceptional and who want to make a significant contribution
00:31:52.260 outside of the home. I don't think that just because there are fewer women at like the genius 1.00
00:31:57.440 levels of IQ, that they should be excluded just because there's not very many of them. If they
00:32:03.940 wanted to go out there and make some significant contribution, cure some disease or discover some
00:32:08.180 amazing thing, they should be supported and appreciated for their contribution as well. So
00:32:13.600 I don't like this idea of boxing women into one thing or another. Like every woman needs to be a 1.00
00:32:19.980 homemaker and a mother or every woman needs to have a career. Like that's just communism, 0.96
00:32:23.360 putting people in a box and being like, this is your role and you just need to fulfill your role.
00:32:28.120 And we'd all be happier if everyone just played their role. You're there's always exceptions to the,
00:32:32.120 there's always exceptions to the rule. I think there's always exceptions and we're individual people.
00:32:36.820 We are not interchangeable cogs in a machine. We need to appreciate each other as individual people.
00:32:41.960 I love that there are women out there who want to go and be mothers and homemakers. And if that's 1.00
00:32:46.000 what makes them happy, then I hope that they do that. And I hope that they feel that the community
00:32:51.120 supports them. Likewise, if there are women who don't want children or who want children, but also
00:32:56.420 want to do other things, they should, they should feel part of our community as well.
00:33:00.360 Of course. And the other thing is just because we're nationalist women and we think that women
00:33:05.940 are happier, maybe having families and children's and marriages. I'm not saying you can't hire a nanny
00:33:10.880 or a maid to help you around the house. We're not saying that you have to like be scrubbing pots
00:33:16.180 and pans all day in order to be a nationalist woman. I mean, then that's, this is just a straw man
00:33:20.980 argument. You know, we're not saying being a nationalist woman means cooking and cleaning
00:33:25.400 and changing diapers all day. I mean, there's other things involved, obviously, you know, right?
00:33:30.380 Absolutely not. And you know, if, if you want women to have children, then women need to be happy 0.99
00:33:35.420 because miserable women don't have children and miserable women who have children thinking it 1.00
00:33:39.780 will make them happy, don't have more children. So support women to be happy people and you will 0.98
00:33:45.260 see the fertility rate rise. I think there's always going to be a small section of women who, 0.99
00:33:50.220 who don't have children or who can't have children or they miss the boat. And you know,
00:33:55.880 that's okay. There's always, there's always been that through history. There is a small percentile of
00:33:59.540 that. And they obviously they're, they're still welcome. They're still welcome with what we're
00:34:03.760 doing here. I think it's awful to just say, Oh, because you don't, you don't have any children
00:34:07.540 or whatever. You can't be a part of this movement. I disagree with that. No, we shouldn't, we shouldn't
00:34:12.220 tie people's worth as individuals to whether or not they've had X number of children or they have a
00:34:18.200 certain type of career. Um, you're, you're valuable because you're part of our race. You're part of our
00:34:23.980 community. Um, whatever your unique talents are, whatever, wherever your interests lie. And I don't
00:34:30.420 think that it's good for our community to start trying to exclude people or push them into boxes.
00:34:35.800 And as I said, that's communist thinking because you're just treating people like
00:34:38.740 interchangeable cogs, not as individuals. Anyone want to add anything to that?
00:34:44.820 I echo that completely. I don't want it to become very authoritarian where women need to have babies or
00:34:50.680 else they're completely valueless. I, in my ideal society would want to be able to pursue what I
00:34:56.820 want to pursue. And I know that kind of sounds like the feminist thing. The feminists kind of 1.00
00:35:01.040 taken that root over. It sounds like a Western civilization, ancient European thing, honestly.
00:35:07.120 Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like a Renaissance type of thing to me, but, um, mostly we hear the feminists 1.00
00:35:11.840 saying that these days, meanwhile, they're always crapping on women who want to have a traditional life.
00:35:16.160 So to me in the ideal society, we'd be able to pursue what we want to pursue, but we would
00:35:21.900 hopefully at least be realistic about it and know that our bodies have a biological clock and that
00:35:27.360 the good men kind of get scooped up rather quickly. Same with the women, the lady, the good women 0.98
00:35:31.800 get scooped up really quick. And I want men to be aware of that as well as women. But in my ideal
00:35:37.820 society, it would be very much like philosophic had said, we wouldn't be put into boxes. We would just
00:35:42.740 have this civilization where we could pursue what we wanted to pursue, but with realistic goals in
00:35:48.420 mind and not telling women that they can have it all. And the fact is, there is going to be some 0.96
00:35:52.280 women who come around who are just simply brilliant and really good at something. And, you know, and
00:35:57.300 they're going to have a talent that's amazing and they should be supported for that talent, you know?
00:36:02.620 And at the same time, I think that some women, if we structure the right kind of society, 1.00
00:36:07.320 we would support them as mothers, but then also as geniuses or for whatever talent that they had, 0.81
00:36:13.640 you know? So we're not saying you can't have other interests. I mean, look at me. I work with my
00:36:18.940 husband and my husband, he challenges me. He propels me. That's why I laugh all the time when
00:36:23.300 like these articles are like, how long before this movement clips her wings? I'm like, hello,
00:36:28.000 all of us women are out there. We're being supported by men. Duh. 1.00
00:36:30.860 Most of my followers are men. I look at the demographics of my channel and my analytics
00:36:35.380 and it's like 90% men. So the women out there saying that we're going to be held back and they
00:36:40.600 don't want women in this movement and it's really sexist. Most of the people who donate to me,
00:36:45.620 most of the people who support me and are firing off in my comment section and telling me to keep
00:36:49.700 going are men. So clearly that's not true. And like Ayla said, the women who are trying to push me 0.82
00:36:56.900 down a lot of the time, well, yeah, they're women. They're women telling me that I'm a 1.00
00:37:00.840 a movement that's sexist and misogynistic and doesn't want me. My analytics tell me otherwise.
00:37:06.380 I think that in a sense, it's just, we're living in a time where we just need to be sort of
00:37:12.720 rebellious. Like the most moral thing to do is to be rebellious. And that means not rebellious in the
00:37:18.360 sort of degenerate sense. That means rebellious in the, I'm going to stand up for what's right,
00:37:22.840 no matter who says what. I think we just need to learn how to defend ourselves and learn how to,
00:37:29.260 while we defend ourselves, do what is inherently benevolent. And so maybe that just means don't
00:37:35.300 listen to the media. Maybe that means, you know, and like, like I said, you know, teaching your kids
00:37:40.960 right. And, but that also means supporting friends, supporting women and men who are.
00:37:47.180 Yeah. Well, and that's one thing I would say, I think, uh, globalism, you know, excuse my language,
00:37:51.860 but I mean, a lot of lefties are a bunch of catty bitches. Okay. I mean, I'm serious. They are, 1.00
00:37:57.620 but like all the nationalist women I've met have been more warm. They're genuine. They're
00:38:03.540 supportive because they're seeing a bigger goal, you know, because they know it's about your,
00:38:08.820 your tribe, you know, you love your tribe, you support your tribe. So, I mean, the best girlfriends
00:38:13.220 I have ever had in my life. And I've always had a lot of friends. I've known a lot of people
00:38:16.480 has been out of this scene. The most supportive women friends I've ever had have been out of this
00:38:21.660 particular scene, which speaks volumes to me about also the, the quality of women that are 0.98
00:38:26.040 attracted to these things, you know? Yeah. The women that I've met since being in this movement
00:38:29.700 are a lot stronger than any of the women I had who were liberal friends and they stick by each
00:38:33.900 other. We're in various chat groups and we're always, every single day, talking to each other
00:38:38.580 about various things going on in everyday life. I think the women who are nationalists have a much
00:38:43.020 stronger sense of protecting one another and being there for one another. It's funny because
00:38:47.880 feminists always have to talk about, oh, strengthen women and be strong, be bold, 1.00
00:38:52.280 be brave. And it's just like, you know what kind of women talk like that? Weak women. Weak women who 1.00
00:38:57.200 have accomplished nothing and have nothing and are miserable. Because if you're actually strong 1.00
00:39:00.940 and you're actually confident, you just are. You don't need to sit there and talk about it and
00:39:05.180 tell the world about it and be validated for being so bold and brave and wonderful because you have a 1.00
00:39:10.240 vagina, you know? It's just like so ridiculous. Yeah. It's, it's like, for one, it's confirmation bias. 1.00
00:39:15.860 And then the other thing is that, like, just whenever somebody is saying something, and this is
00:39:19.720 obviously something that I tell people who are in need of consolation for that reason,
00:39:24.240 like somebody offended them or somebody said something that wasn't kind. I think it's like,
00:39:28.560 well, you know, take it with a grain of salt or judge who's saying it. Like, who is it coming from?
00:39:35.440 Are they a reputable person or do they have a good character at the end of the day? Do you know them?
00:39:40.560 Would you trust them with your, you know, with your own flesh and blood? It's, it's, it's really,
00:39:45.880 you have to think about all these things.
00:39:47.360 So my husband just brought to my attention, Melania Trump, I didn't know, but she's being
00:39:50.660 viciously attacked for her, was it Christmas decorations or the way she's decorating the
00:39:56.440 White House? Or, I mean.
00:39:59.280 We all knew they were going to come after Christmas next. Come on. They came after Thanksgiving,
00:40:02.960 calling it white supremacy and YouTube.
00:40:04.560 But do you see how they attack?
00:40:05.820 They're knocking over the dinner.
00:40:07.220 Oh yeah. But do you see that the way that they attack Melania Trump like crazy and it's
00:40:11.140 mostly these, you know, lefty bitches. What do you all think about that? 1.00
00:40:14.680 Yeah. I was absolutely shocked at the leftist reaction to the, the White House Christmas
00:40:21.720 decorations because, you know, they weren't, there was no politicizing of them. You know,
00:40:27.580 aside from the fact that it was, her theme was honoring our traditions, which I thought was
00:40:33.800 a lovely theme for the Christmas decorations, but it wasn't overtly like, you know, trying to
00:40:39.000 shove anything in the lefty's face. Yet they were absolutely outraged about the woman's Christmas
00:40:44.900 decorations. And I think that this shows how unbelievably petty that they are on the left,
00:40:50.940 particularly other women. And I actually, even on my Facebook page, which I don't even have that
00:40:54.420 many followers. I had people on there commenting about how ugly her, you know, her stupid Christmas 1.00
00:40:59.080 crap was. And I was just baffled. And to read some of these articles, they actually put words in 1.00
00:41:04.560 Melania's mouth. They say, you know, she probably looked at the ballerinas and thought, oh, you've 0.92
00:41:09.900 made four mistakes. Like these aren't even quotes from her, but they're thinking they're, they're
00:41:14.180 actually writing these quotes saying Melania probably thinks this about this situation. It's
00:41:21.060 so far removed from reality. Um, I don't understand how this is passing any editor's desk. I mean,
00:41:27.240 why are they even printing this? It's disgusting. Well, it's Vox. So yeah, I got one. But I mean, 0.76
00:41:34.220 this, this is just, it's like leftist projection though. They're like, oh, she must be thinking
00:41:38.080 this. And it's like, um, we can all just hear you guys sitting there thinking these nasty bitchy 1.00
00:41:43.740 little thoughts about everybody else. But just because you do that doesn't mean everyone else
00:41:47.460 does. Yeah, it's really ridiculous. I'm getting tired of these lefty women. I'm sorry. And that's 1.00
00:41:51.900 another good reason why it's up to us to like come out and have some balance here because a lot of
00:41:57.700 guys tend to think that that's the only kind of women that are out there now because they're being 1.00
00:42:00.920 pushed everywhere. Every TV show, female leads and they're feminists. Every journalist, everywhere I 1.00
00:42:07.180 look now, it's dominated by these leftist females, you know, it's just absurd. And they attack us more 1.00
00:42:12.560 like no other. This brings me to my next point though, going back to that Harper's article, they were
00:42:17.080 claiming, you know, and we had said this before, it's a matter of time before the men, you know,
00:42:20.900 clip our wings from soaring. They basically claim that it's feminist for women to be vocal, that 1.00
00:42:26.080 the only reason why we could be vocal today and speak out is because of a few spinsters and feminists 1.00
00:42:31.900 in the in the 1900s. It's only because of them that we're able to speak out and be vocal, right? So
00:42:38.240 what do you all think about that? Ayla, I'll start with you. Oh, I was gonna say historically,
00:42:43.820 it's just false. I mean, you know, we had Queen Elizabeth I, Amelia Earhart, Joan of Arc. I
00:42:50.800 mean, there's been lots of strong women. And now women, naturally, in general, most women are not 0.99
00:42:56.860 going to take strong leadership roles, like being a monarch or being the commander of the military.
00:43:02.400 But there are occasionally those women that do. And historically, there's not really been anything
00:43:08.160 done in Western European culture to stop that. If there is a woman who has a scientific talent or 1.00
00:43:13.860 advancement, she's coming up with medical cures or discovering something new about chemistry. 0.67
00:43:18.220 By and large, no, there's no men that have like, you know, systematically tried to keep her down.
00:43:24.500 It's just an absolutely false narrative. We have lots of women to look at through history 1.00
00:43:29.280 who have done wonderful things. And the only reason I've been able to speak up in general is
00:43:34.940 because the things that men have built for me, having a nice house and being able to get an
00:43:39.460 education and having a university to go to, having a Logitech webcam and a gaming laptop and a
00:43:44.880 microphone. Those are things that men built for me. So that claim is completely disingenuous when
00:43:51.020 they're saying that these women that caused a stir in the 1920s or something are the only reason 0.88
00:43:55.940 I can enforce my thoughts and have a platform. I can do that because of all this technology that men 1.00
00:44:01.920 built for me.
00:44:02.660 Also, Western civilization, ancient European civilizations and cultures, women have, 1.00
00:44:07.900 they were active in the marketplace, they own businesses, they were philosophers. I mean,
00:44:12.640 this is, this is old, you know, we're not talking about just because the 1920s came and these women 1.00
00:44:17.840 are like, women should vote that now we can have our voice today. Philosophicette, what do you want 1.00
00:44:22.380 to add to that?
00:44:24.680 I think it's interesting that the leftists have this conception that women used to just never have
00:44:31.160 a voice. Maybe that we weren't always allowed to vote. But you know, a lot of men weren't allowed
00:44:36.700 to vote in the past either, unless they own property, or paid taxes in some form. So they're
00:44:43.320 kind of pushing this, this idea that isn't really very historically accurate. And I think they're
00:44:47.940 kind of just looking at this period of say, like the 1950s and 60s, where women were kind of being
00:44:52.440 forced back into the home. But if you go back to previous to, say, World War Two, all the all the
00:44:59.880 major women's magazines were constantly running articles promoting the idea of women being heroines,
00:45:05.300 and them falling in love and getting married, you know, or maybe they did that in a story,
00:45:08.780 or maybe they didn't. But it was never like the main point of the story. They were going out and
00:45:13.000 doing amazing things. And they were whole people. They were well rounded people. And they're actually
00:45:19.540 just they're kind of buying into their own lives when they when they promote this idea. I don't see
00:45:26.140 men in this movement by and large trying to clip our wings. And I think the ones who are trying to do
00:45:31.920 that are the ones that I mentioned previously, this vocal minority that actually doesn't really
00:45:36.560 have women's best interests at heart. They don't really like women. Some of them are very bitter 0.99
00:45:40.440 towards women. But I think all of us in this call, at least probably have men in our life,
00:45:46.400 whether it's fathers, husbands, brothers, friends, boyfriends, whatever, who are supporting us.
00:45:51.760 And I like Brie, I mean, my analysts also told me that most of my supporters are men.
00:45:56.840 Yep. The same thing. Yep.
00:45:59.500 I do think that my philosophy is that men and women are nothing without each other. They're
00:46:05.300 contrasts. It's like day and night, in a sense, black and white. So I think that it's very strange
00:46:10.920 that gender so polarized these days. And of course, it's, it's, you know, whatever you want to call it, 0.99
00:46:15.640 globalist agenda, you know, statism, whatever, all of these terms are valid. It is, it is modernity,
00:46:23.200 unfortunately. And I think this is very unfortunate, because men do things women can't and women do 0.99
00:46:27.920 things men can't. That's right. And women like us get that we want to be at work as a team, I would 0.87
00:46:33.720 say I would summarize our movement isn't just about men or just about women. It's about families. It's
00:46:38.080 about marriages. It's about partnerships, friendships, your extended race or ethnicity is your family. I
00:46:44.200 mean, that's really what it's about. But I wanted to go back to this whole ridiculous thing about, 0.66
00:46:47.980 you know, two women weren't allowed to own property. As Ayla said, hello, we've had queens 1.00
00:46:51.840 who have waged war and owned lots of land. And but I was talking with Henrik about this earlier,
00:46:57.220 like, what timeframe are you talking about? Where? Which class of people? Did you say women
00:47:02.640 couldn't own property? Like, what are you actually talking about? Actually define where you're talking
00:47:07.380 about? Because, like I said earlier, plenty of women did own businesses, they inherited land, 1.00
00:47:11.660 right? When their husbands died. I mean, there's a lot of guys that didn't own property, too. But
00:47:16.520 there must have been an alien, you probably know this, but probably selected cases of when, you know,
00:47:21.520 land went to males only, you know, if there was times when land just went to the males and didn't
00:47:28.540 go to women, I think that they didn't do it. It wasn't an act of like oppressing women or women are 0.53
00:47:33.320 stupid. I think that it was more of a some kind of a protective measure. And those times maybe women 1.00
00:47:37.900 didn't want responsibility or something of tending to certain types of property. Who knows? But this
00:47:42.100 property thing and the right to vote always comes up. And I just saw an article some purple haired
00:47:47.540 gay feminist had written about me saying that I basically want to take away women's right to vote 0.98
00:47:52.600 and own property. And it's just like such BS. Like, where have I ever said that, you know? And like 0.98
00:47:58.340 that's ever going to happen. Like, you have the right to vote, but look at look at what these leftist
00:48:02.400 women have done with it, you know? And but it is quite funny, because you know, who got Trump elected?
00:48:08.260 White women. All of a sudden, maybe they don't want women voting. 0.99
00:48:16.180 Now, what do you all think of the Me Too campaign? All the stuff going on with Harvey Weinstein, all these
00:48:23.740 cases of sexual harassment going on by mostly leftist men? Thoughts on that?
00:48:28.700 I say let it burn as far as Hollywood. No, it's okay.
00:48:32.980 Brie, go for it. 1.00
00:48:34.860 No, maybe it's a little bit dark of me, but I just say let it burn as far as Hollywood, because they
00:48:40.460 are the ones who have been perpetuating all these lies and lying to our children and lied to me growing
00:48:46.260 up made me think a lot of these falsehoods were truths. And I love seeing some of these people who
00:48:51.560 have been so arrogant and conceited, trying to tell us what's what, trying to tell us we must vote for 0.99
00:48:57.160 Hillary, telling us that these flyover states are dumbass states and such. I'm just enjoying it 1.00
00:49:04.060 with immense glee.
00:49:04.980 And it's not just Hollywood. It's not just Hollywood, but it's politicians. It's all kinds of
00:49:10.420 people. And the funny thing is, it's like, duh, we're just now realizing that Hollywood and politics
00:49:16.120 is full of like, incestuous, you know, disgusting perverts, and that there's sexual harassment. I mean, 0.99
00:49:21.440 come on. Seriously.
00:49:22.700 It's been going on since like Earl Flynn. Wasn't he nearly convicted of raping minors? And look at 0.66
00:49:28.200 Roman Polanski. These people are just disgusting perverts. And I think a lot of people have known 1.00
00:49:34.560 that for a while. They just didn't dare want to speak up. And the Me Too hashtag thing going around
00:49:40.060 and these women coming out saying they were abused or molested or raped or what have you. Honestly,
00:49:45.380 sometimes that makes me angry because, okay, you're coming out now, 20, 10, five years after
00:49:51.720 the fact, and saying maybe you're too scared at the time. But when you do that, you allow your abuser
00:49:57.980 to go out and still continue to be a predator and go after other women. So you trying to protect your
00:50:04.160 own career as a model or what have you or an actress created more victims. And yeah, I'm sure that
00:50:10.320 a lot of people who come out with this type of thing do get ostracized. I've heard various cases
00:50:15.820 of like, I think Elijah Wood tried to come out saying that Hollywood had a huge pedophile problem
00:50:20.540 and he was blacklisted because of that. But me personally, I would rather be able to put my head
00:50:24.920 on the pillow at night knowing that I spoke up about it rather than come out in a hashtag saying,
00:50:30.120 yeah, it happened to me too. How cowardly. Why don't you go after the man who abused you and make 0.92
00:50:35.500 sure he can't make victims out of more young women out there? Yeah. And I guess that's the thing,
00:50:41.200 like at the end of the day, not saying something that you know, like being complacent towards inherent
00:50:47.220 evil or intrinsic evil. It seems immoral by proxy. Like, I couldn't sleep with myself if I knew,
00:50:54.860 you know, I had a friend who was being, you know, something was bad was happening to her, him or her,
00:51:01.420 whatever. Or, you know, if I knew of something that was bad, like I, I'm not the type to compromise
00:51:08.200 for cash or I'm not the type to, I just wouldn't be able to sleep with myself. And I wouldn't be
00:51:14.580 able to go to bed. I wouldn't be able to relax. I would be in my mind until I was able to tell
00:51:19.060 somebody because I think that the fact that all these women have been hiding it and not just women, 0.96
00:51:24.040 like everyone's been. Do you guys think that they're all telling the truth? I think it's a mixed bag.
00:51:28.360 I think there are some telling the truth. And I think that there are some, they're just kind of
00:51:31.260 capitalizing on it to launch their acting career or whatever. But it's kind of funny how it's a lot
00:51:36.240 of these actresses in Hollywood and there's so many more that don't want to come out and say anything 1.00
00:51:39.840 because they have to admit that they, you know, maybe touch that dirty guy's peepee to get into 0.99
00:51:44.280 that movie. You know what I mean? It's just disgusting. Well, yeah. I mean, are they proud of it? 0.99
00:51:48.340 That's the thing. Like, are you, because it seems like a lot of, maybe are they, maybe they're
00:51:52.140 saying, oh, you know, I'm proud of it. Hey, he did this 20 years ago and I'm going to,
00:51:56.700 I'm going to get him because, you know, it's convenient for me.
00:52:00.340 Yeah. The last of a cat, you had something out there.
00:52:02.680 I think the Me Too campaign is really exemplary of the left's elevation of victimhood to a status
00:52:10.240 symbol. What kind of crazy society do we live in where being a victim is a badge of honor?
00:52:15.040 I know. It's amazing.
00:52:16.660 Or we're admitting that you knew about this open secret in Hollywood that this guy was a pervert 0.68
00:52:22.040 and you still willingly went into a hotel room with him. And now you want to play the victim 0.63
00:52:26.100 part?
00:52:26.540 Yeah, I know. I know.
00:52:28.700 And you can't say anything because you're victim blaming, right? If you speak up against this woman?
00:52:33.860 Hey, look, there's a difference between blame and responsibility. He's like, I don't victim blame,
00:52:38.220 but you're still responsible if you chose to go in the hotel room.
00:52:41.060 That is true.
00:52:41.620 If you knew about it in advance, if everybody knows about this guy, you're responsible for
00:52:46.860 your own safety. If you chose to do things that put yourself at risk and then something bad happened
00:52:51.660 to you, well, it's not your fault that a guy did something to you that he shouldn't have,
00:52:55.020 but you are responsible for having put yourself in a situation.
00:52:57.980 I mean, come on. We all know, like, would business meetings happen in hotel rooms in Hollywood,
00:53:02.960 you know, for movie parts? Hmm. Casting couch much, you know?
00:53:08.560 Yeah. I think we have to be really careful about what's happening also to men when we've elevated
00:53:14.720 this, these sexual assault allegations to a badge of honor for these women. And we know that a lot
00:53:20.560 of women are not honest. And now we're seeing these rapid firings, like Matt Lauer was fired very
00:53:25.520 quickly. Garrison Keillor, I read just before we started recording, was fired. And I'm like,
00:53:30.680 oh my gosh, not Prairie Home Companion, like Garrison Keillor, what is happening? But what I want now,
00:53:36.200 honestly, if they're predators, and they really committed some sexual acts, of course, 0.91
00:53:40.620 I want them fired. But what I'm becoming really concerned with is the speed at which I'm seeing
00:53:45.540 these men taken down. And I think it really, the ball started rolling with, with Bill O'Reilly,
00:53:49.860 and I'm no fan of his. But I thought that that was a little, like, they didn't really have a strong
00:53:56.100 case there. But then all of a sudden, he was losing his job. And I'm like, wait a minute, I think we
00:53:59.920 should, the people that are accusing him of this should have some pretty solid proof. And all of a sudden,
00:54:05.400 we're seeing all of these guys lose their jobs. Yeah, no, that's, that's a good point. And like
00:54:08.800 Roy Moore, too, it's really convenient. And turns out there's a lot of fishy things going on there
00:54:13.480 with the women's stories. There was some, some fraudulent signature in the yearbook there. And
00:54:18.980 so it's like, it could be convenient to get certain guys out when they're, you know, right wingers
00:54:23.560 anyway. But it's true. You're right, a girl could just say, he touched me. There's no trial,
00:54:27.980 there's no investigation. And everyone just takes it for 100% fact.
00:54:32.100 Yeah, particularly if we make it the cool thing, if it's the cool thing to say,
00:54:36.860 me too, me too, I got, you know, I was touched too, or whatever, then all of a sudden, you know,
00:54:41.700 a guy had asked you out or asked you for your phone number 10 years ago, and now he's gonna lose his
00:54:45.400 job. I mean, we have to make it not cool. That's number one.
00:54:48.920 These accusations make it very dangerous for men to want to approach women anyway. And if you're a man,
00:54:56.040 you don't know if a woman's crazy or not, you don't know if she's going to be the kind of person 1.00
00:54:59.440 who's going to accuse you of raping her. So you cannot you can understand why some men go the MGTOW 0.97
00:55:05.640 way. It's like self, it's kind of self preservation, in a way. So it is really a shame that this is
00:55:13.540 running so rampant. And I think it's important that, you know, other women kind of speak out against it.
00:55:19.880 I just want to add real quick, you mentioned MGTOW. And I noticed that the press keeps trying to tie
00:55:24.820 them into our movement or nationalist movement. MGTOW is not a nationalist movement. There are
00:55:30.760 some guys that have come from there that have come to our scene, but it's its own thing, because
00:55:34.820 you can't have a future. You can't be pro-white without women. So I mean, that's absurd. 0.99
00:55:42.040 Go on.
00:55:42.640 Sorry. I think we've kind of lost control of what it means to be alt-right ever since Hillary Clinton
00:55:47.260 kind of made her speech talking about the alt-right. It has sort of become this umbrella term for
00:55:51.860 everyone that the left doesn't like. And that has included MGTOWs. But yeah, we do need to make 1.00
00:55:56.500 the distinction that they're not nationalists, because they they hate women, for the most part.
00:56:00.340 So how can you be nationalist if you hate half your race? And yeah, some of them do end up coming to 0.89
00:56:05.680 nationalism. But I still question whether or not that they are really pro-white, because first and 0.61
00:56:11.060 foremost, they do still tend to be MGTOWs. And I think we kind of need to start, we either need to 1.00
00:56:17.660 ditch this term alt-right, or we need to redefine what it means and take control.
00:56:21.100 Yeah, I'm kind of in the camp of like, I think it needs to be ditched after Charlottesville 2.0.
00:56:26.100 There's a kind of a little messy there, you know, and there's probably some feds, and it's just out
00:56:30.420 of control. So that's, that's done, I think. So there's two men in particular that always come up
00:56:35.280 as being proof that our movement is anti-female. The first one is Andrew England. Now, Andrew England
00:56:41.980 is notorious for just writing stuff that's over the top, but he knows is going to agitate leftists. He does a
00:56:47.300 lot of parody. He just really just hams it up because he knows he pisses off leftists. He gets
00:56:52.320 a lot of hits. Obviously, look at all the attention that he's gotten. It's kind of also been a steam
00:56:57.440 valve for some of the young kids. He's got a lot of young boys, apparently like 14 and 15 year olds
00:57:02.420 that go to his site. It's kind of like a steam valve, you know, it's naughty. So, you know,
00:57:06.360 the press always points to England as being anti-female. And I think that a lot of his
00:57:11.900 sentiments are just, you know, fun and jokes and whatever. But if they are real, he's always
00:57:16.580 shared my stuff. I haven't, he's never attacked me. He's always shared my content on his website
00:57:22.460 and other females as well. So there's that, I wanted to say. The second one is the press 0.99
00:57:27.480 always points to comments online. You don't know who these people are. Anyone can just go comment
00:57:32.000 in some like chat room or a Facebook post. But these press, they use that as proof that
00:57:37.780 our movement is anti-female. Okay, that could be anyone doing that for crying out loud. It could
00:57:41.700 be these leftist female journalists, you know. The third thing is, go to my screen, Richard Spencer
00:57:47.360 questions whether women should have the right to vote. This always comes up. Now, Richard has been
00:57:52.080 kind to me, supportive, you know. It's like no problems there. But what do you guys think about
00:57:58.140 this statement here? When we were just talking, I was saying that I support a household vote. I
00:58:03.880 think that there shouldn't be restrictions. Ayla, also you, tell us what you think about this.
00:58:09.120 Well, I think that there should be a household vote. I think that it should be somebody who's
00:58:13.420 a net taxpayer. So it can't be anybody on welfare or somebody who's not paying any taxes. You kind
00:58:18.360 of have to have some skin in the game. My husband and I talk about this a lot. We kind of also favor
00:58:22.840 maybe people that have children or, I mean, I don't want to exclude people who can't have
00:58:26.840 children necessarily. But you have to have some kind of, yeah, basically some skin in the game
00:58:33.000 as far as where our nation is going. And you have to be self-sustaining and self-supporting
00:58:38.300 within this nation in order to have a vote. But I'm very pro-family vote.
00:58:43.640 I completely agree. I just think we need to crack down as far as, this is ridiculous that we can have 0.68
00:58:48.740 illegals voting. This is getting insane with the amount of illegals who are allowed to vote. 1.00
00:58:53.740 And maybe I'm in a class by myself here, but I don't really like the idea of immigrants being 1.00
00:59:00.180 able to come here and vote after just a couple of years because a lot of them are here just for the
00:59:05.020 welfare state or what have you. And they don't, as you said, Ayla, have skin in the game where they 1.00
00:59:09.920 care about the longevity of our country. I would completely get behind an idea of maybe
00:59:14.480 one house, one vote. I don't think people who don't pay taxes should be allowed to vote at all 1.00
00:59:19.680 because, especially with people on welfare, they have their own interests in keeping that
00:59:24.820 big government going because they want that money. I think if you lobby for anybody who's not the USA,
00:59:30.900 you shouldn't be allowed to vote. So yeah, maybe I'm a little extreme in some of those cases, but
00:59:36.580 a free-for-all anybody, especially people who have interests who are antithetical
00:59:40.860 to any kind of nationalist pride or the longevity of our nation, I don't feel very sympathetic to
00:59:47.500 them and I don't think they should be able to vote.
00:59:48.920 And I think before I go to you, Philosophicat and Kirsten, I mean, as far as a household vote,
00:59:53.600 my husband and I think the same politically. Why would you want to be with a guy that you 1.00
00:59:57.540 fight over politics with? I mean, it's no problem for us, like one household vote. It's a no-brainer,
01:00:02.940 of course, you know. I mean, talk about being divided if, you know, letting women and men vote
01:00:10.160 separately. I think back then it was a way to create some kind of unity within society and the
01:00:14.380 household. But Philosophicat, let's go to you next. I actually agree mostly with what Ayla has said.
01:00:21.500 I don't know about a household vote because then I think you're weighting it disproportionately for
01:00:25.400 people who have no children versus people who might have 10 children. But I do agree with this idea
01:00:31.200 that you need to have skin in the game, whether it's owning property, having children, not being
01:00:36.580 a net loss on society, or I would even extend that to anybody who's eligible for the draft.
01:00:41.780 Because I think if you're eligible to be drafted into a war, you should have a vote on whether or
01:00:46.260 not you go to war. But on the whole, I actually don't like voting at all. I'm definitely not in
01:00:52.820 favor of democracy. So I think it's probably okay with nobody having a vote.
01:00:56.760 Or at least like not stupid people. Like, can we put an IQ cut off? 1.00
01:01:03.120 Yeah, exactly.
01:01:04.680 I have no problem with like an education test, a bar, there should be a bar there.
01:01:09.000 And no offense to Kirsten, because you're still a teenager. But I mean, seriously, 18? What do you
01:01:13.300 know at 18? And you're voting on the future of the country? You're a child, you know?
01:01:17.860 Yeah, I mean, I'm only a teenager for like a month more. But the funny thing is that I really like that
01:01:22.140 you mentioned, Lana mentioned you and your husband. I've always thought that was so weird
01:01:27.880 when I met people who like, Oh, we've been married for so many years, but we have nothing
01:01:32.540 in common. Yeah, it's absurd. Morally, those mixed faith couples too. I like totally don't get 1.00
01:01:39.200 that. Like the Jew and the Muslim? Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Sorry, it blows my blood. But the thing 1.00
01:01:46.360 is that I don't, I don't know. I'm also in agreeance with philosophy. I'm not a big fan
01:01:52.960 of democracy, which is something that people don't like to hear. But the reason is because
01:01:57.100 that I feel weird that somebody like me has the same power as somebody who's an elder in
01:02:03.400 a sense, like an old person who's like lived for a very long time.
01:02:07.620 Yeah, democracy is a failure. My democracy and we're going to foreign countries and bombing
01:02:12.120 them to bring them freedom and democracy. You know, it's ridiculous. And they say, 0.98
01:02:16.360 they say that nationalism is pro war. That's a bunch of bull. Globalists are the ones who
01:02:21.740 are invading other countries and destroying and toppling governments. It's not people like
01:02:26.660 us. We're actually the true anti war people, really. And that should be added here. Well,
01:02:31.060 ladies, I really want to thank you. This is this has been really insightful. I think it's
01:02:34.680 a good summary of kind of some of our views from a female perspective, because we have to 1.00
01:02:39.080 combat a lot of this propaganda that's working against us. Let's face it, there's millions,
01:02:43.980 billions of dollars right now, working against people with our views. I mean, there's government
01:02:49.360 groups now that are watching what we're doing and studying and sending in moles and censoring.
01:02:55.560 I mean, this this is serious what we're involved in, you know, and this this could get dangerous.
01:03:00.060 So I know it takes true your true bold women. The feminists always say you're so brave and you're 1.00
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