Walter Russell was an American polymath and autodidactic who was a master horseman, master sculptor, master artist, master musician, master philosopher, and master scientist. He had a degree conferred upon him, a doctorate in science, and he worked knowingly with the creator, with God, which he considered to be the universal one.
00:03:12.140Walter Russell was an American polymath and autodidactic who was a master horseman, master sculptorist, master artist, master musician, master philosopher, a master scientist.
00:03:27.480He had a degree conferred upon him, a doctorate degree in science.
00:03:33.600All his life, he worked knowingly, as he called it, with the creator, with God, which he considered to be the universal one, which also happens to be the title of his first book.
00:03:48.160Just an interesting fellow in terms of his power to demonstrate his knowledge to the world.
00:03:57.940I have to also insert here, he was also an ice skater.
00:04:04.100And a master horseman, you know, Walter Cronkite quoted of him when he passed away or refolded, as the Russells used that term, instead of death or dying, that Leonardo da Vinci of the 20th century had died.
00:04:21.620So they considered him to be up on that par as an artist.
00:04:27.620Ironically, I was in a used bookstore, and this was probably around 2005 or so.
00:04:34.360And I kicked the book, The Secret of Light.
00:04:37.140It was on a bottom shelf, and I picked it up, really didn't think too much of it.
00:04:41.800I kind of figured it was a Masonic book of some sort.
00:04:44.960So it was two bucks, and I bought it, and it sat on the shelf for a few years.
00:04:50.000And until later, I got an interesting nudge out of the gate, if you will, kind of a suspicion to open it up and read it.
00:05:00.060And as soon as I read the first page or two, I was glued.
00:05:04.140And from that point, I've just basically consumed every single bit of this universal law, living philosophy, and natural science I could get my hands on.
00:05:12.780Well, I definitely want to focus on the more philosophical principles, but also I think we should briefly discuss his view on science.
00:05:20.540How are Walter's views of the universe different from, let's say, like quantum physics, the electric universe, there's the holographic universe, there's the morphogenetic field ideas.
00:05:32.100Well, his views, he basically, through his illumination, he was shown, which was a 39-day-long illumination.
00:05:38.880And that's where he gained the knowledge from the light of mind, as it's called, in mystic circles and these experiences of mystics and illuminates having this flash of light.
00:05:50.700His happened the last 39 days, where he was pretty much out of his body the entire time.
00:05:56.940He wrote down some 40,000 words and hundreds of charts and drawings, and having never studied science at all in his life, or chemistry, for that matter.
00:06:06.420I know his wife, Helen, at the time, called the authorities.
00:06:12.920Two friends of his came over to evaluate him, and they saw his writings, and they basically advised her to let him be, that he was doing something that was out whitmaning Walt Whitman.
00:06:25.800So they advised her just to let him go on with his illumination, and fortunately for us, that's the case, because today, anyone in that kind of state would probably immediately be thrown in a nuthouse.
00:06:37.900But basically what his science teaches is that this universe is a two-way, continuous motion universe, as opposed to a one-way Catholic universe, which I got to stress, the Catholic universe origin is the child of Monsignor Jesuit priest, Georges Lemaite.
00:07:00.600And Lemaite, ironically, after he had stated his theory, Pope Pius XII referred to the new theory of the origin of the universe as a scientific validation of the Catholic faith.
00:07:15.180And Walter just could not imagine that a universe could not first build itself up into solidity before just tearing itself apart.
00:07:23.160So it was a discontinuous, one-way, heat-death, exhalation-only universe, whereas all bodies in nature that we can experience and witness breathe in and out.
00:07:34.080And so he firmly disagreed with that, as well as disagreeing with Newton's law of gravity, which he said was only half right, because Newton didn't explain how the apple got up in the air in the first place.
00:07:46.960So it's just little things like that, in the science end of it, got me really interested in wanting to put this information out there, because it does call into question some of the things we refer to as laws.
00:08:01.400And I think it's a little bit premature in man's world to call things laws until we really, really get a good dissection of what it is we're referring to.
00:08:12.240Well, that's right. And you did a good job. You presented some videos on thesecretoflight.com that really shows detailed diagrams laying out his scientific theories, which is probably easier to understand looking at some diagrams versus talking about it on radio.
00:08:25.780Certainly, yeah. I recommend anyone go there for a more thorough breakdown.
00:08:29.880But, yeah, the philosophy, you know, is a beautiful part of it, too.
00:08:35.740And just the natural science, you know, it's basically men like Victor Schauberger, who also saw the vortices in nature.
00:08:47.100And most of these great men, what they presented to the world was, you know, just a gifted view using nature as their background.
00:08:55.320And I think what that does for mankind is it gives him a little more clarity when you base it on something we can understand, like nature, as opposed to theories that are kind of bizarre and out there that really are, you know, like string theory, for instance, is basically less than one-tenth of one percent of the entire human race can even understand string theory.
00:09:18.200And kind of got to be in the good old boys' club to really understand the universe from that perspective.
00:09:25.360But it is interesting that most of the chairs of the major universities in science are held by string theorists.
00:10:25.480This one can be – what's interesting is he seemed to lay it out in such a way that it aligns perfectly with nature.
00:10:32.380So I tend myself not to necessarily think of what he delivered as a theory, more or less an actual working model of creation that we see.
00:10:42.980And I must clarify that his reference to God – and I know God is a very loaded term, but that's what they spoke in the 40s and 50s.
00:10:51.680Which they pretty much – they would also refer to it as the creator.
00:10:56.020I think just right off the flip for the listeners, the word God, according to Russell, is sexless, stillness, and silence.
00:11:05.200And this is where the entire theory of the wave mechanics of Rousselian science come from, is the unfolding of stillness into motion and then the return of motion to stillness.
00:11:18.760And basically this is what we see in all through nature, from the atom up to the galaxy.
00:11:50.880If it's a thought wave universe, which I tend to side with that, basically the two differences between mystic science –
00:11:58.220or the one difference between the science of the mystic and the science of the materialist rests upon an assumption,
00:12:04.440where the materialist assumes that mind is an effect of matter, but generally the mystic throughout all the ages has known mind to be the cause of matter.
00:12:15.060So therein lies, I think, the fundamental difference in the way that mysticism works versus materialism.
00:12:24.280And if you can look at the universe, I guess what happens with thoughts is pretty much –
00:12:33.060if you need an experiment to see that thought is the creation or is the impetus for the creation of man's ideas,
00:12:41.900then simply remove any concepts that man's ever had, and all of man's creations would disappear with it.
00:12:48.580Because any body that we make, whether it be a poem, a radio interview, a painting, a song, is first an idea in the mind.
00:12:59.680And so in like fashion, that's how the creator creates its universe.
00:13:04.940And what ideas are, the reason they're bulletproof is because they don't exist in this three-dimensional reality.
00:13:12.240What happens is we build bodies for our ideas.
00:13:15.680So these bodies are the representative pieces of our mind.
00:13:21.260And only as good as your body is built, whatever body that be, according to your ideas, is how much time it'll last.
00:13:31.000So the better you build it, the more perfect it is, the more it has the rhythms of creation in it,
00:13:36.540the more it can inspire your fellow men.
00:13:39.140And Beethoven's a good example for that is Moonlight Sonata or various artists who are able – like Alex Gray, for instance –
00:13:49.020just able to transmit their knowing onto canvas or into composition.
00:13:54.280And the better and more in the light you were when you brought this idea to the forefront,
00:14:01.000the more potent it is and the more of an effect it has on the masses.
00:14:06.440That's right, because then your formed body, if you will, it has a soul as opposed to like a godless creation
00:14:12.500where it's just bankrupt and empty, kind of like Top 40 music today, you know, or some bad Hollywood movie.
00:14:17.920Well, pretty much anything coming from the music industry in Hollywood, I kind of look at it with a grain of salt.
00:14:23.760It's just unappealing and very uninspiring.
00:14:26.520It's de-inspiring, and I think it's meant to steal your energy and basically depolarize your body into a state of decay.
00:14:33.660Mm-hmm. I also like, too, that he said to learn to work with God, you know, not having God work for us,
00:14:40.180like so many religious people kind of – they look at Jesus or God as a sugar daddy, you know, or God is like –
00:16:24.620I think what that really means is basically decentrating is sending your thoughts out into space, unwinding, you know, the wound-up condition of concentration.
00:16:36.400Things, heat and cool, but there's basically two polarities to everything and are two different kinds of states of being.
00:16:49.300And we live in a very – it's a sexed universe.
00:16:53.420You know, male and female are the pairs of opposite creations that we have to deal with.
00:17:00.180And basically, Walter's idea of meditation was that you need to zero your thoughts, still your thoughts, still your mind.
00:17:08.240And at that point in decentration, when you become the zero or become still in your mind, that's where you can harness the great ideas.
00:17:18.600That's where you can formulate through that light of knowing within yourself.
00:17:24.680And in a waking state, he also talked about being able to wakingly meditate.
00:17:33.560So as he would be, you know, creating something, he said this in a writing somewhere, there are times his mind would start thinking about money or something or troubles with whatever.
00:17:45.820And he would open the door of his studio and let himself out and then slam the door and go back to work.
00:17:51.040So let out that part of yourself that constantly nags in the back of your mind.
00:17:56.720Or, you know, it's hard to get control of that.
00:17:58.820Eckhart Tolle said you had to arrest your thoughts, and I think that's a good way of looking at it.
00:18:04.860You know, just finding that – the ability to become still in your mind so that you can harness the power of mind idea.
00:18:35.340I think once you do it enough, though, I mean, I'm starting to notice in my own self an ability to kind of – you know.
00:18:41.940I think we do it a lot when we drive, if you drive a lot.
00:18:45.920It's almost like driving is secondary.
00:18:48.300When you're actually imagining all these things that have nothing to do with driving, your body just kind of automatically does what it needs to to get where it needs to go.
00:18:56.240But it's sort of that ability to be wakingly meditative that you can carry this kind of thought process into your daily activities and make them much more enjoyable because you kind of have a more – more of a centered balancing piece about the whole process of living.
00:19:35.180I guess the question we should ask is what is it that separates a genius from an ordinary man?
00:19:40.100And I think what Walter noticed right off the bat was that genius never tires.
00:19:46.460Genius, it's always interested and generally is not ruined by school.
00:19:53.940So the greatest men in our world have a common thread and that's nature.
00:19:59.240And in your realizations and your oneness with nature, your imaginings, your inspirations, the beauty that you see in the world, the knowledge that you possess within yourself is brought to the forefront.
00:20:12.600And the masters among us, the geniuses, men and women, are those who can create bodies of work that endure.
00:20:22.060And they endure because they have inspiration in them.
00:20:26.800And the inspiration can re-inspire millions upon millions of people.
00:20:31.240Even sports figures can get into the zone.
00:20:33.560And like Michael Jordan had just a miraculous season back in the late 80s that people talked about the zone.
00:20:39.800Well, I would say that the zone is a form of self-mastery of the body, even if it is from an athletic point of view.
00:20:46.840But the zone is sort of like a mini illumination.
00:20:50.760It's mastery of what you're doing in the moment.
00:20:54.540And what geniuses do is they are able to do this almost daily.
00:20:59.880They just have this mastery of life that is, for one thing, it's kind of scary to some folks.
00:21:07.940I think, you know, J.P. Morgan, when he decided not to fund Tesla after his idea of free power, was one of a fear, you know, fear for his own bank account.
00:21:19.160His reaction basically to free energy was, you mean all I can make money on is these lousy antennas, Tesla?
00:21:25.200So we saw what should have been a wireless power generation system disappear 100 years ago.
00:21:32.780But basically what genius does is it outperforms all other men, and for a reason, because they're able to translate their ideas into bodies that have a higher amount of concentration in it, of pure thought and awareness and inspiration.
00:21:48.280It's interesting you bring up school, too, because school doesn't teach knowledge or inspiration.
00:21:53.900It's just repetition and regurgitation.
00:21:57.140Yeah, remembering and repeating is not knowledge.
00:22:00.220And that's how we grade the students the best.
00:22:02.840Those who remember and repeat the best get the highest grade.
00:22:06.440And so what you're doing is, and that's, you know, Charlotte Thompson Iserby wrote in their Dumbing Down of America,
00:22:12.740that's kind of the direction that school was going, you know, that the curriculums were beginning to, you know,
00:22:21.160the loss of the trivium and quadrivium and just things of teaching, you know, ability to critically think and reason in our school systems is all but gone.
00:22:32.520So Russell said one of the two greatest things that ever happened to him was leaving school in an early age before it ruined him.
00:22:43.800Well, he also was against technique, Walter was saying, because anyone can acquire that.
00:22:48.600But inspiration is something that you have to be awakened.
00:22:51.700You have to kind of work for it a bit.
00:22:53.320And when it's inspired, then you can put out amazing things versus technique just making kind of mediocre things.
00:23:00.120Yeah, I think, you know, he's pretty much understood that if you need to practice a technique like a pianist,
00:23:07.440or you need to practice your brushstroke and painting or whatever technique that you can acquire techniques through the light of mind and save yourself some time.
00:23:18.560But if you need to, he was definitely against experimenting in science.
00:23:22.740He was so complete on his knowledge of universal function and natural law that I think he found it really strange and bizarre when he began to research science books after his illumination.
00:23:36.740He was quoted as saying, the language in which science spoke was so utterly complex and it reminded him of, you know, these bizarre academic guesses reminded him of the four elephants theory holding up the corners of the earth, that it was that archaic.
00:23:56.580So he had to learn the language of science from 1921 until about 1927 when he released his book to 1,000 prominent scientists around the world.
00:24:08.960And I think one of the only ones to respond to the book, The Universal One, was Nikola Tesla.
00:24:14.180And Nikola told him to lock it up in the Smithsonian for 1,000 years because mankind was not ready for this knowledge.
00:24:20.860And Leo came along later in his life in 1947 or so and she told him that the world doesn't have 1,000 years and we need to get this stuff out now and release it to the world.
00:24:33.540And if it wasn't for her, there'd be no, probably no mention of Walter Russell in the history books.
00:24:42.340So for all co-creators and part of God, isn't it also true that there might be some level of clashing creations, especially right now?
00:24:48.740I mean, I see a clash between the God forms with the God-less forms.
00:24:52.020So how would Walter say to look at it?
00:24:55.140Well, I think he would point out that there's a difference in views of a person who's mindful and aware of their creative side versus those who live in a materialistic, externalist kind of life.
00:25:10.900Unfortunately, at this time, materialistic science is king of the road, has been for 300 years.
00:25:19.260And at least to me, myself, science has gone down the wrong road by removing the creator from its creation.
00:25:28.180In other words, to remove the mind force as being causal has proved to be colossally damaging, in my opinion.
00:25:37.460And I think Russell, everything he did, he operated from a modality of being connected to source at all times.
00:25:45.920And he thought really along the lines that any man who is a genius, what he does different than other men is he demonstrates his mind power in his ability to create his creations.
00:25:57.140And what we're seeing today is an extremely materialistic society who is outwardly defined through the ego, culturally inept, because basically culture is now being handed to you from Hollywood, music industry, and the sports industry.
00:26:15.000And so a lot of people are really lost in the external world, don't have much of a connection to their inner selves.
00:26:23.500And I hear a lot of people all the time say, I wish I could do that, or I wish I could do this.
00:26:28.120I think that's really a fundamental difference in approaches to life, and that's what is probably responsible for this clash, because the materialists want to basically create this scientific technocracy, this through plutocracy, and basically control the rest of humanity as some sort of farm animal.
00:26:51.940Whereas genius has never been able to be controlled, so Russell often spoke that some of his famous quotes, one of being, genius is self-bestowed, mediocrity is self-inflicted.
00:27:07.960I love that one, I was actually going to read that in the end.
00:27:14.220No, no, it's an excellent one, I love that.
00:27:16.200Oh, he's got so many, I could just go on and on.
00:27:18.860Well, if nature doesn't allow for imbalance, maybe eventually all this mess and all these big power structures and ideas are going to crumble.
00:29:17.040And as soon as they got together, they began to formulate plans.
00:29:19.860And he was president of the Arts and Sciences Society in New York and started the Twilight Club through a grant from Andrew Carnegie.
00:29:31.220Ironically, a lot of the luminaries of the day attended this club, from Mark Twain to Ralph Waldo Emerson to Walt Whitman to just multitudes of genius men.
00:29:43.940And their whole purpose was to get together to create organizations that would uplift and build character in man because as Edwin Markham and others who were attendees of this Twilight Club saw that mankind was headed for a disaster and a total collapse of civilization if they didn't do something.
00:30:05.560So out of the Twilight Club came such things as the Lions Clubs, the Boy Scouts of America, the Better Business Bureau, and all these things that were designed initially to help instill character in men, integrity.
00:30:21.460And basically what we're seeing now is the warnings of all these people coming true that there is a grave lack of integrity in our leaders.
00:30:32.220There's a grave lack of integrity in the hidden hand and the power structures of this world.
00:30:38.980And I think that's a sign of what happens when you lose touch with the inner light within you and become enamored by the external world and the desire for worldly things instead of the treasures of the soul.
00:31:27.660And there's a lot of different authors who have written about it.
00:31:31.440For instance, Daniel Quinn wrote Ishmael about a gorilla who would talk to this guy about how the takers are ruining the planet.
00:31:40.980And it's basically this taking mentality is the external man, which is coming to an end.
00:31:46.640And what external man is so good at is taking and creating an imbalance, which taking does not create the will or the inspiration to re-give.
00:31:56.940It just creates the will to take more.
00:32:02.500To where we have an entire civilization who is materialistic, especially in the States here.
00:32:09.280I think that it's obvious when you see people on Black Friday lined up at a Walmart stomping each other to death to get to useless crap they don't even need.
00:32:19.220I mean, that's the peak example of materialism.
00:32:23.280And nature's law is giving for equal re-giving.
00:32:26.580And I think when man lives that principle, he benefits and extends balance to his own surrounding, which I liken that to really being the change you seek.
00:32:36.300Because what Gandhi knew was that you can't use evil to defeat evil unless you become that which you're fighting.
00:32:45.220So, the whole approach of the mystic is really to give to his fellow men his creations from within himself.
00:33:29.640I mean, I don't think lions take all the gazelle out of the fields.
00:33:34.400They just take one enough to sustain themselves.
00:33:37.160So, in that, I would say there's a balanced action and reaction there.
00:33:41.400But what man does is he takes more than he can even use and hoards it and stuffs it into vaults.
00:33:48.180And, you know, like William Randolph Hearst, for instance, having held at one time one quarter of the world's art, which wasn't even on display.
00:33:57.620I mean, what good is it, you know, if it's all in warehouses and crates?
00:34:02.760But, yeah, the animal kingdom is, to me, a measure of balance.
00:34:06.960I mean, if we could learn to live more like nature, you know, and take life with, you know, a sense of awareness.
00:34:18.740Like when you take the life of an animal or before you eat a hamburger, have a sense of awareness of what it is you're doing so that you can kind of, you know, pay a little respect to the spirit that gave its life for us to, you know.
00:34:31.580It's just this rampant taking that has no regard for others is a chronic illness, and I think it's a part of a psychopathy.
00:34:41.160And I know Michael Tassarion, I've heard him on Red Eye several times talk about that kind of, you know, lack of responsibility in man that allows him to become that kind of creature.
00:34:54.900I think, too, though, the majority of people, I don't know, do you think the majority of people would be that way, or is it just a small percentile that are just absolutely so greedy and hoarding and wasteful?
00:35:05.800Because most of the people I know and associate with are more respectful and don't hoard, you know, and they wouldn't even if they had a billion dollars, you know.
00:35:13.920Certainly, yeah. It is endemic. I mean, there's, you know, the original industrialists, most of them, you know, like Andrew Carnegie and others, were not trying to control the world.
00:35:30.060I think they, you know, Ford was one of the men who said, give the workers good living conditions and good food and good neighborhoods and they'll do better work for you.
00:35:40.040And I think it's the children of these industrialists who pretty much have gone off the deep end with materialism because they were born with a silver spoon.
00:35:50.020They, you know, they were handed everything and they don't know the value of hard work.
00:35:54.860I think that stems back to Leo's God will work with you but not for you.
00:35:58.500I mean, when everything's handed to you and you don't have to work to get anything and you're just to assume control of somebody else's idea, be it your father's or whoever, then you just kind of fit right into that position and you become an extension of that idea.
00:36:13.100But, you know, do they have the same value system or the same morality?
00:36:18.760Is there more of a, because I was raised rich, you have a different kind of outlook on people.
00:36:28.340I'm kind of glad I never was rich and that I don't have a lot of money because I'd probably think like them.
00:36:34.860And then you hear some rich people that are, they have so much money and you hear them talking the talk like about, oh, well, free energy or they're even getting involved in like alternative media and things.
00:36:45.960But they don't actually help fund certain things that could really make a difference while they have millions of dollars.
00:37:08.760And, you know, there's so much going on with, you know, I think what the beauty of the science in that respect to free energy is, is that when man starts thinking of his universe as a two-way motion continuous universe instead of a heat death dying universe, then he'll begin to understand nature more because it's based on natural law.
00:37:28.320And as science is taught in universities now, the second law of thermodynamics forbids perpetual motion and you can't break the law.
00:37:38.140So, really, we're stuck in the university system teaching children and young adults about a dysfunctional science that's once they learn and begin to believe that there's no chance for perpetual motion, then they kind of get locked in that sense-based reality of the world.
00:37:58.160But my question is, show me anything that isn't in perpetual motion.
00:38:02.220The entire universe is moving at enormous velocity and it's all perpetual motion.
00:38:08.400It's just when we learn to copy nature, the way nature uses energy, Victor Schauberger said of nature that she didn't need to blow things up in order to do her work.
00:38:18.620But yet, man is the only creature in the world that explodes things in order to get work out of it.
00:38:24.640And I think that comes from this big bang kind of outlook on the universe.
00:38:31.800It's a discontinuous one-way heat death dying exhalation only universe, compliments of the Catholic Church.
00:38:37.860And I tend to think, you know, when I look at and have been researching into LeMate lately, that this may be a leap for some people.
00:38:47.740But to me, I believe LeMate was Einstein's handler and for a lot of reasons because the dysfunctional theory taught by Einstein, you know, which is not even really likely.
00:38:59.240But to me, that's just becoming more and more obvious that there's a certain element that wants people to be locked into this false explosion-based use of energy.
00:39:14.800And what we need is a complete upheaval of the current theories that stand in all our universities.
00:39:21.280We need, you know, just for instance, take the opposites of track law that Colm put out there.
00:39:28.060Nothing could be further from the truth because you take a bar magnet, if opposites attract it, then north and south would reside in the middle of the magnet.
00:39:54.500So, he was commanded by the creation or the creator, if you will, at least what it was to him, to write down these words which would give man a true-to-nature understanding in science and understanding of his universe.
00:40:11.960I haven't read through all the lessons yet, but I caught a couple lines where he said God had a reason for limiting the senses of reality so we'd believe this simulation.
00:40:21.420Well, I would think it's for the play.
00:40:25.620I mean, this is the drama of creation.
00:40:27.640And if we were to have been created knowing everything, then there'd be no need for a play.
00:40:37.280So, I guess it's just sort of the life drama must happen.
00:40:41.840And man goes through eons of consciousness unfolding.
00:40:44.880And so, you know, eventually, this may, if we can get through this stage of our crevolution, as I like to say, then perhaps we have a chance at building a world full of geniuses where we won't need armies and militaries.
00:41:01.480So, also, he talked about the dawn of the cosmic age and the seed of the cosmic man.
00:41:09.360Well, the cosmic age is the electric age.
00:41:12.120I mean, it's where man is learning that he's becoming co-creator with creation.
00:41:18.040And when we – 100 years ago, we didn't have electricity.
00:41:22.660And so, it ties in with what people at that time called the New Thought Movement, which was being led by the best among us in civilization, the great poets, the great writers, the great musicians.
00:41:36.240And it was a real chance and a real opportunity for man to enter into a New Thought Movement, a New Thought Age.
00:41:46.240What ended up happening, obviously, is the greed of man, the barbaristic, jungle-like behaviors that we have carried with us for thousands of years won the day.
00:41:56.760I mean, so the law of giving and re-giving was violated.
00:41:59.820And ever since that violation, we've seen these wars.
00:42:03.980We've seen scarcity, manufactured scarcity.
00:42:07.640We have just all these different things that troubles with society.
00:42:13.120And I like to often say that if we could have done the past 100 years the opposite of what we've been doing, in other words, funding the arts and pulling the kids out of school who are staring out the window and going,
00:42:27.780and what were you thinking of, oh, you want to be an artist?
00:42:30.220Let's give you this and help you develop that skill.
00:42:33.480I mean, think of the different world we'd have.
00:42:42.560And this is the kind of civilization that fear creates.
00:42:45.660And there are all too many willing to take the reins of this and lead it off the cliff.
00:42:52.000Only if we're going to turn it around, we have to disconnect from it and basically come at it all from a different angle.
00:42:59.880I mean, be no part of the world if you're in it, but we do have to deal with it.
00:43:05.040So I think if we offer our own creations and be the change we seek, then through that law of balance, we can extend that balance to our homes first and then to our neighborhoods and then, you know, so on and so forth.
00:43:20.260I think we should also talk about the mind self versus the brain, because I know he mentioned the brain is, you know, an electrical machine, basically a servant to the mind.
00:43:53.060He considered knowing to be the omniscience of creation or the universal mind of the one.
00:43:59.500And this universal mind in and of itself is complete.
00:44:06.400And all of us are basically units in the universal mind.
00:44:10.660And we borrow all power from the stillness and return to it.
00:44:16.300And all of our creations come from mind.
00:44:20.300First their concepts and then we build bodies for them and then they exist.
00:44:24.220Basically, materialistic science, you know, probably biology and anatomy would seem to certainly say to the senses that, you know, knowing comes from the brain.
00:44:36.460But in Russell's view, the brain is just a recorder of electric sensation.
00:44:41.080It has no more intelligence than a record player or a record does.
00:44:44.740But yet, you know, certain things you learn, sense-based acquisition of knowledge is all stored there.
00:44:56.260And that's the difference between knowing and thinking is that you can know your universe that you live in if you try to understand it through the knowing mind of yourself.
00:45:05.140And that's basically the kingdom of heaven being within.
00:45:09.020And those who realize that more than others can bring out greater and greater creations than people that don't realize that.
00:45:16.460Well, he talked about the body, you know, sensing things.
00:45:20.400It senses when there's enough clothes in there and how much water needs to be filled up.
00:45:25.280I oftentimes wonder if the chakra system in our body is also part of a sensory body thing.
00:45:31.400So when people do yoga, for instance, they kind of get this high, but that it's not necessarily a spiritual high, but that it's more of a body high.
00:45:57.780So if we're thinking in terms of depolarizing thoughts, like that's one of the reasons I don't listen to Alex Jones anymore because it's just too depolarizing for me.
00:46:09.400And any kind of depolarized condition builds up toxicity in the body.
00:46:13.940So it's important to be polarized toward life instead of discharging and depolarizing toward death.
00:46:21.940So I think, you know, yoga is certainly one of the aspects that you can unwind the tensions of the body.
00:46:27.820But it's also, you know, there are different kinds of yoga.
00:46:31.380And a friend of mine, Daniel Alva, who's one of the narrators for some of our units, he's a yoga master.
00:46:38.280And he often talks about the spiritual side of yoga.
00:46:42.500So it does have benefits, I think, in both realms.
00:46:50.000Good tune-up, oil change every once in a while, you know.
00:46:53.220So if this physical experience is basically an extension of a thought form that's in a body, do you think eventually it's going to collapse?
00:47:02.660If basically, let's say the physical body is kind of an extension of an idea, it's where a thought's made physical, where a form, do you think eventually it's going to collapse, this physical experience, and it's going to turn into something else?
00:47:20.100I mean, obviously the bodies, this is one of the reasons I kind of just take a frown on certain ideas like time travel or interplanetary travel.
00:47:29.980Because the pressure conditions on any other planet are quite different than the pressure conditions here.
00:47:36.800I mean, you couldn't survive on Mars, I don't believe, any more than you could go to the bottom of the ocean without some sort of a system surrounding you to keep the pressure like it should be.
00:47:48.960We hear Russell's stated before that if you were to take a giant machine and lasso Uranus and pull it to where the Earth is and then release it suddenly, it would zoom right back out to where it was because that's its light pressure potential.
00:48:07.860And part of his science teaching was that pressure potentials determine where things end up.
00:48:12.960And that's why man's – basically the whole misconception of the gravity theory was that what the apples sought in the Earth was like pressure potential, which is rest.
00:48:25.080Everything comes from a state of rest.
00:48:26.800Rest is the omnipresent condition of the universe.
00:48:30.620And basically what we see in solidity and form is a disturbance in rest.
00:48:37.320But all things that have form must eventually return to rest.
00:48:41.920And just for instance, if you throw a stone into a pond, eventually it will return to a state of rest.
00:48:48.600If you chime a bell and look at the waveform, it starts in stillness, vibrates for a while, and then returns to stillness.
00:48:56.760If you strike the E string on a guitar, it will vibrate from stillness and then return to stillness.
00:49:05.920So this is fundamental to understanding the Rossellian science and that everything begins from stillness and ends in stillness.
00:49:14.380I think that's kind of where he wanted to teach man that he had a different – that there is actually something more happening than what our senses see.
00:49:27.160And that's the problem with the senses is that the senses only pick up on things that vibrate.
00:49:32.500The senses cannot see stillness and it can't hear silence.
00:49:40.420So if the Creator's abode is one of silence and stillness, then that certainly explains why science can't find it.
00:50:12.720And, you know, I had read much of David Icke's work in 2004, 2005, around there.
00:50:18.200And I find that his interpretations of, you know, the five-sense prison are dead on accurate.
00:50:26.060You know, and I think, you know, just the whole mindwave universe, the greatest men among us have all said this.
00:50:34.280It's not like it's one guy out of, you know, just, you know, basically it's a few people, maybe 30 people in the entire world have ever had a full illumination where they saw the reality of the universe.
00:50:47.200But I'd rather take their word for it than the word of a bunch of people that haven't, you know, because what they have to say seems to be more in line with reality being an illusion than that, you know, the other side, which is that we're just, you know, happen to be the result of primordial ooze that crawled out of a pond 8 billion years ago or something.
00:51:14.200That's what people believe, you know, it's amazing.
00:51:17.780So what did Walter say about E.T., if anything?
00:51:22.680Him and Leo wrote in some correspondences.
00:51:26.600They thought that that was one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated on mankind.
00:51:32.640And, you know, I don't know exactly why they may have said that, but I know that she was against channeling and she felt that really what people were doing was just making up, you know, names for their own inner mind.
00:51:44.180Which, you know, I kind of agree with that because, you know, if you're not used to your innermost self, basically, you know, what Walter would call walking and talking with God is just the great realization of yourself as an extension of the one whole.
00:52:00.540And I think that's one way to define oneness much better than what we hear a lot of this new age, you know, kind of flaky, hokey pokey definitions of, you know, we're all going to turn into light beings and float away.
00:52:15.680I think that man is the result of a mind conception of universal mind itself and that universal mind being God or the creator or the supreme being or the architect, you know, that it unfolds into male and female pairs and it lives for a period of time and then rests from action.
00:52:37.220And that seems to be right in line with the way everything works in the universe.
00:52:41.280Well, then in a way, we're always channeling information then if we're all unified, right?
00:52:48.080I think the difference between, again, this can go to genius and mediocrity.
00:52:53.880Genius interprets the rhythms of light within the mind to a greater degree that the average person does who's not even aware of it.
00:53:01.400So to the degree that you are aware of the genius within you and the divinity within you is to the degree that you can express that divinity to the rest of the world.
00:53:09.980And that's what separates a master from a common man.
00:53:32.340I just say that if you do get inspiration, it's best to act on it as soon as you can because inspiration is a very fleeting thing, especially in the masses.
00:53:43.620The sense-based masses love flashing lights.
00:55:07.220But then you listen to something like X-Files, and it's kind of more – it's kind of subdued, and it's kind of a silent music, you know what I mean?
00:55:15.600Well, sometimes the space between the notes seems to have more importance.
00:55:21.040And that's just the – you know, the universal heartbeat is the one-two of creation.
00:55:26.000It's the beginning of music, and Walter, having been a musical master, you know, he depicted the universe as a series of nine octaves.
00:55:36.560And basically, the elements are octave locking positions of light.
00:55:41.080There's only one substance in the universe, and that's light.
00:55:43.820And what we call the elements are simply different pressure conditions of that one substance.
00:55:48.880And he drew an elemental chart that's just beautiful.
00:55:51.580It's a spiral chart, and that was – actually, he was the father of the discovery of several of the transuranium series of elements that he was not given credit for, but did actually file the patents for them.
00:56:07.600So there are some provable things that, you know, were taken from him that came from this vision, you know, having not read a school book ever on science and dropped out, you know, in sixth grade or so.
00:56:20.260I mean, there is something, too, that man can bring back from the silence into this motion picture universe and create these bodies of just incredible imaginings.
00:56:32.260And that seems to be the very powerful part of what geniuses do, and they just do it to a greater degree than the average guy who, instead of bringing forth simulations for his own ideas, he's working for somebody else's idea.
00:57:37.040And I think a lot of the problem with what you say right there, the reason people aren't is because the systems that we're involved in.
00:57:45.360I mean, growing up in school, they're putting more kids on these, you know, imagination-destroying drugs than ever.
00:57:52.660And that's a huge reason for the lack of creativity in society.
00:57:57.300And I think they're trying to corner the market on human imagination.
00:58:01.260And if they create a system where we take all our cues, we look at all the creations that are approved by the machine.
00:58:09.940You know, Hollywood's a perfect example.
00:58:11.740You know, it's rare that an inspirational movie comes out anymore.
00:58:15.880And I think you just have to dig for it.
00:58:19.540But there are those people out there who, you know, save for the system, have managed to escape it and are offering, you know, themselves back to the world.
00:58:30.080So I think we can build upon those things and inspire our fellow men.
00:58:34.140Being the change we seek, then we can certainly see a better civilization on the horizon.
00:58:39.260And as long as we believe the bull crap coming from the authoritarians, then, you know, there's always going to be that friction, I guess, until enough of us come together and can create enough of a movement toward being co-creators as well.
00:58:57.920Yeah, raising the bar, because right now it's pretty low in the name of equality and fairness.
00:59:06.540You know, the human race is slowly falling down into the pit of despair.
00:59:12.520Yeah, and Walter and Leia warned of that.
00:59:15.480You know, they said it takes eight, nine hundred, a thousand years to build up a civilization, but it only takes a few to destroy it.
00:59:23.120And that destruction comes from, you know, taking, basically, breaking the law of giving, which is the law of nature.
00:59:31.420You know, and it's just a man does this to himself.
00:59:34.480He hurts himself and calls it sin, calls it evil.
00:59:37.900You know, Russell was adamantly against devils and any kind of hell or any of that stuff.
00:59:43.280He really thought and felt, as well as men of his time that he ran with, the luminaries, as I said of that day, they felt that man was on the verge of, you know, self-destruction if something wasn't done soon.
00:59:57.460And unfortunately, the powers that be, I like to call them the powers that were, because they're just on their way out.
01:00:06.060It's a violation of universal law, and it doesn't matter what they think about it.
01:00:09.660I mean, again, you know, the science that we have is, just to bring this in, if I may, I think it's an important point, but the whole idea of gravity being an inward pulling force was the reason why we have this flawed nuclear theory of the atom.
01:00:27.820And basically, the nuclear theory of the atom says that, you know, it's an inward pulling force that holds the nucleus together.
01:00:34.860Russell disagreed with that totally, said that compression, the cold compression of space, winds up the vacuity of space into solidity and then unwinds.
01:00:44.980And I think Buckminster Fuller called that centropy was the uphill flow instead of just a downward hill flow.
01:00:52.840And so, if that's true, if this motion universe is two-way, which Walter asserted that it was, especially through inspiration and his own knowing, then that means that everything from Newton that was built upon the law of gravity, the nuclear theory of the atom, quantum physics, all of it is wrong.
01:01:20.500Well, Henrik and I were just saying, I think it was yesterday, because we listened to so much material, check out so much material, then there's a point when you're like, I don't know anything anymore.
01:01:31.200You know, I don't know what's real anymore.
01:01:37.320If you tried to cram any of this stuff in yesterday, it's like, you know, it's like taking a crash course in Chinese because you literally, I had to unlearn, being an electrician by trade,
01:01:46.240I had to unlearn all the things I thought that were laws of nature that man supposedly discovered just to find out through my own confirmation that what I had learned was wrong.
01:01:57.800And there's an excellent book, actually, that people can go check out.
01:02:01.300It's called The Case Against the Nuclear Atom, written by Dewey B. Larson.
01:02:05.740And he just demolishes and debunks the whole nuke atom theory.
01:02:10.580And, you know, again, the indoctrination is so strong.
01:02:13.740You know, when I was raised, I remember that movie, Walt Disney's, you know, what was that called?
01:02:21.100The Nuclear Atom little cartoon, you know.
01:02:23.860So, you know, just the indoctrination of science is incredibly strong.
01:02:30.100I mean, it's, science is not free, as people want to, as much as they want to believe.
01:02:34.720It's like, no, please don't take my science away from me.
01:02:37.440But there are absolutely incredible men who have put forth a very balanced science, which, you know, Walter Russell is one of those men.
01:02:47.520You know, they knew that at the heart of all motion was these vortices.
01:02:52.180And Russell drew them as twin opposing vortices, which he considered to be the lights of creation, the red and blue light, red being male, blue being female.
01:03:02.900And in our world, we're taught backwards that boys are blue and girls are pink or red.
01:03:07.980So I just found that interesting, too.
01:03:10.400But there's so much to this, and it's such an in-depth science.
01:03:14.340And it really takes what needs to happen in order to get into studying it is first you have to basically agree to unlearn everything that you know and then just begin again.
01:03:47.640Well, anything else we should know and missed regarding Walter?
01:03:51.600Well, there's a million things I could tell you.
01:03:53.620But I guess ultimately is that I personally think I'm very motivated and have a great, a strong conviction to share this knowledge with people on their behalf.
01:04:07.240As far as what it has done for me personally, I'm a completely changed individual.
01:04:13.420I think the change came from basic realizations that in myself is this kingdom of heaven, which having grown up at a young age, being indoctrinated into the Catholic religion and just certain modes of view, I always knew in my mind that there is this something more.
01:04:33.800And I think what Russell did for me personally was gave me a blueprint of how to unfold myself in a way that was just an absolute demonstration of the power within you.
01:04:46.800And in order to go within, you have to find the quiet solitude and peace of aloneness.
01:04:56.480A lot of people are lonely and then there's those who love being alone because that's where you really garner the power to create those enduring bodies of work.
01:05:08.280And I think that just the ability to express yourself through inspiration and utilize your inspiration instead of wasting it on going to the carnival or something.
01:05:21.820You know, people get inspired and they, oh, I'll go to Coney Island, buy a hot dog and ride the ride instead of, you know, I say get your art kit out and as Terrence McKenna said, put your art pedal to the metal and see what you can come up with.
01:05:34.940And I think the more of us that do this and bring our true selves out to the forefront at a much needed time when humanity could absolutely use the inspiration and the more that we can hopefully steer ourselves in a different direction instead of going off the cliff as it seems to be heading toward now.
01:06:08.860I just sometimes I wonder to myself if we're even going to make it out of this mess.
01:06:12.920But I'm doing my part as best I can to try to better the world around me.
01:06:19.120And if enough of us do that, perhaps that will inspire enough people and legions and legions of people to try to make this world a better place.
01:06:45.120And it's just great to know there's other authentic people in the world who have a serious concern about the direction that we're all taking and who aren't afraid to do something about it.
01:06:58.720The Secret of Light.com is the website that centers around Walter and Leo Russell and their collective work of some 30 books and the home study course and the teaching of universal law, natural science and living philosophy.
01:07:12.680My personal website is mattpresti.com, M-A-T-T-P-R-E-S-T-I.com.
01:07:19.960And there you can find some interviews of my Exploration of Consciousness show that I did for a while and also all my music for free on players for whoever's interested.
01:07:30.740And as a backup site for Rossellian Science and Victor Schauberger, you can visit feandft.com.
01:07:40.300That's my co-producer, Robert Otey's website.
01:07:43.140And that's all about free energy and free thinking.