Radio 3Fourteen - Femininity in the Modern World

00:00:00.000 Welcome, I'm Lana. This is a show on the subject of love and dating from an anti-feminist

00:00:20.620 perspective. If you missed the other show on this topic, be sure to watch it with Tara

00:00:24.620 and Melissa. Joining us for the first time is the talented Blonde Buttermaker who has a segment on

00:00:30.540 Red Ice TV. Also returning guests, Brie Fauché and Blonde in the Belly of the Beast. This show is

00:00:36.600 available in both audio and video format, available at redicemembers.com or redice.tv.

00:00:43.140 Elora, Brie, and Rebecca up next. Joining us for the first time, Elora, also known as Blonde

00:00:49.320 Buttermaker. I'm sure you've seen her segment on Red Ice TV. Say hello, Elora.

00:00:53.460 Hi, guys. Thank you so much for having me. These kind of talks are really needed today,

00:00:59.800 so thank you. And of course, Brie, who's also been on the show. So welcome, Brie. It's good to have

00:01:04.140 you back. Thank you for having me back. I love being on Red Ice. And then also Rebecca, known as

00:01:10.580 Blonde in the Belly of the Beast. Another blonde here, so say hello. Hello. Thanks for having me.

00:01:16.540 Now, Elora, off air, we were kind of chatting a little bit about, you know, you're very, very blonde

00:01:21.320 and very, very light. And you said that you got teased a lot in school. So tell us about this.

00:01:26.480 Oh, my gosh. I was teased so much. Like, I used to walk to school. And during the wintertime,

00:01:33.200 one time I was wearing a silver coat. And my hair, you know, is white. And it was snowing

00:01:40.860 really hard. And my friend's mom pulled up to pick me up and she didn't see me. And then she like

00:01:47.240 just drove away. And then like everyone was saying, oh, you just blend in with the snow. And then kids

00:01:53.560 used to throw snowballs at me and they would say, oh, it just blends in with your hair. You don't even

00:01:59.260 know it's there. And people would shout like old granny, you know, down the hallway. And they would

00:02:05.800 call me like albino werewolf. And everyone would be they would say a lot of mean things.

00:02:13.160 Well, just know that there's a lot of women that pay a lot of money to have hair that is your color.

00:02:17.500 So and I always remind people, people forget what truly natural, like pure platinum blonde looks like,

00:02:26.020 you know, they forget it. Well, I wanted to have you all on to kind of continue a series that I

00:02:31.720 started to talk about love, dating, courtship more from an ultra right perspective. This is a topic

00:02:37.780 that comes up a lot. I get a lot of requests for it. So I just kind of wanted to dive into it. And

00:02:41.420 we can talk about thoughts on modern day dating. So is courtship and romance lost? Who wants to go

00:02:49.380 first? I definitely don't think it's lost. I think it's just a matter of we've forgotten how to be

00:02:55.580 really romantic. And we're kind of having to relearn that in a little bit in some ways because

00:03:02.160 feminism really poisoned people's brains where a guy doesn't know if it's okay to pull out a chair

00:03:07.400 for a girl or if she's going to be like, I can do that myself. I can open a door myself. I can carry

00:03:11.720 my own suitcase. Whereas if a guy offers to do that for me, I think that's kind of romantic.

00:03:17.500 Yeah, sure. Take my bag. You're so sweet. But now we've made men afraid to do that kind of thing and

00:03:22.880 afraid to be romantic. I totally agree. I don't actually have much dating experience myself,

00:03:31.100 but I absolutely agree with Brie. Yeah, I think we're burdened by choice too. And I hear like a

00:03:37.680 lot of women like, well, I didn't like this guy for this small reason. And I hear this, you know,

00:03:41.700 from dudes too. They kind of like don't try on a relationship because of minor things. And I think

00:03:47.840 it's because of the availability of why everybody's so flippant. Yeah, it kind of makes us

00:03:52.680 exceedingly picky where we overlook the really good qualities of a person just because, oh,

00:03:58.680 maybe I can do better. It's this constant, maybe I can do better scenario to the point where we miss

00:04:04.520 out on somebody potentially great. Yeah. And the other thing is that, you know, when you're with

00:04:09.060 someone after a while, you grow together, you evolve together, you work on your weaknesses and

00:04:13.960 your strengths and you become a better person. At least that's what I found in my relationship. So you

00:04:19.220 have to give some people a chance. They might be rough around the edges, but you can kind of work

00:04:24.160 through some of those sometimes too. You know, true love really does change people. So let's get into

00:04:29.660 thoughts on, you know, advice for young women that are dating in the current year. What advice can you

00:04:35.720 offer them in this degenerate society that we're currently living in?

00:04:40.220 I have a good one that I really want to say is do not find your potential spouse at a bar.

00:04:47.260 You cannot be connected to your intuition or even your sense of smell or any primal instincts we have

00:04:54.980 if you're like totally drunk and at a bar and just don't do that.

00:05:01.360 I totally agree. That whole thing they say where men don't take the girl they meet at a bar home to

00:05:06.380 meet their family. That's true. It's completely true. You're not going to find your soulmate

00:05:11.540 in a bar or something. You're much better off going for match.com or something where you can

00:05:16.500 be very specific about your political ideology. Maybe go on several little coffee dates and keep

00:05:22.100 them to about a half hour and be straightforward. Tell them, I want to get married. I want to have

00:05:26.500 kids. I would like to be a stay-at-home mom. That way you're not wasting each other's time.

00:05:31.860 And a man that wants those same things isn't going to be afraid by you saying that.

00:05:36.380 That's true. Yeah. I definitely heard of people that have been together for like many, many years

00:05:41.400 and then they're like, we broke up after like 10 years because we decided or like one person didn't

00:05:45.540 want to have kids. It's like, didn't you know that when you started out dating? Wasn't that the first

00:05:49.500 thing you talked to each other about? I had a friend that did the exact same thing. They

00:05:53.080 dated for a year, lived together for a year, then were married for a year, and then they got a divorce

00:05:58.120 because one of them decided that it was just more fun to date around. And she would sit there

00:06:03.160 while she was still married going over OKCupid. Oh, this guy looks cute. I wish I could have an

00:06:08.620 OKCupid account in every single state. Why? Why would you want that? God. It's like, oh God,

00:06:15.660 no wonder the divorce rate's so high. I think too, a lot of times people nowadays, they don't take the

00:06:19.680 time to really get to know each other. I mean, getting to know each other nowadays and in our

00:06:23.960 modern era is what's your favorite color? What's your favorite band? Who did you vote for? They don't ask

00:06:29.560 the big, deep philosophical questions or what are your life goals? What are your desires? What makes

00:06:35.640 you tick? These are conversations that you need to have. And it's better to have it sooner than later

00:06:41.180 when you're dating so that you can filter it out and say, this person is wrong, doesn't check the

00:06:45.600 boxes that I need, doesn't match what I want in the long run. And for women, we can be picky. So I would

00:06:50.480 say it's a matter of saying no more often and weeding them out until you find the guys that are

00:06:56.500 actually right for you. And it has to be someone also that you can be good friends with because

00:07:00.940 you're not going to just be la, la, la, la in love all day long in a marriage. There's real practical

00:07:06.720 things that need to be done. Diapers that need to be changed, trash that needs to be taken out. So

00:07:11.740 it better be a good friend that you enjoy being with. Yeah, I definitely think that's like our culture

00:07:19.760 is dates are like going to the movies or going, you know, where your focus is not on the other

00:07:26.520 person. You're staring at a screen, but you're supposed to be forming this bond. So having going

00:07:33.760 for a hike or doing something more where you need to be having a conversation and connecting.

00:07:40.760 So what if a woman is over 30 and she's starting to freak out because she hasn't met Mr. Right? I've

00:07:47.120 heard from a few of those in the alt right. Words of advice for that lady. I would say don't panic.

00:07:56.380 Don't panic. And if you're at that place, you're in the right spot. If you're watching all of Lana's

00:08:03.340 videos, just take a deep breath and and watch all of these videos because you're in the right place

00:08:09.860 and you definitely have enough time to correct it. And don't be in a rush to make a bad decision

00:08:16.320 either. You still have a little bit of time to be picky. Don't get so panicked that you're oh my

00:08:20.480 God, I'm 30. I got to get married. I got to have kids. You still want to make sure you find the

00:08:24.080 right person because this is a lifetime commitment you're making here. And even if things do go a

00:08:30.020 little bit slowly and you find somebody after your fertile window kind of closes, there are lots of

00:08:35.580 white babies out there that need love as far as adoption. Yeah, that's true. Everyone wants to adopt

00:08:41.860 babies from overseas. But like, what about taking care of our own? Right. And they tell women and

00:08:48.840 men these days, you're more moral if you adopt a black baby or something. So, you know, there's lots

00:08:54.400 of white babies out there that need affection in the adoption system. Rebecca? I mean, my sister,

00:09:01.800 she had her first baby at 31. And even though we live in Seattle, she was still the youngest person by

00:09:06.180 several years in her birthing class. So I'm 29 and I have a boyfriend, but I'm not married yet. So I

00:09:10.980 understand this, this freaking out. Like it's like in the middle of your stomach, just like absolute

00:09:15.700 panic. Like what if I don't have a family? Oh my God. But you just have to, I need to take my own

00:09:19.920 advice on this one, but you have to control the panic and try to make good decisions through it.

00:09:24.820 That's all I can say about that. Yeah. I also think you have enough time. I have a large group of mom

00:09:29.960 friends and actually most of them are 35 to 37. And I think having children that late in life is better

00:09:39.120 than not having children at all. And if you've gotten this far without finding a spouse like that

00:09:46.560 and having children, you may have been operating under the masculine eyes feminine for too long.

00:09:53.040 And you should, you know, take a step back and ask yourself what areas of your life you need to

00:10:00.560 really reconsider and reevaluate. I heard Stefan Molyneux say this once, and I think it was very

00:10:06.440 powerful and it was very true. He said, when you start dating somebody and you really like them,

00:10:10.100 just be so great. They can't say no. Be so great. They can't say no. I think too, that there's a lot

00:10:16.300 of paranoia about like, oh my God, I'm 30. My fertility has plummeted. That's actually not true.

00:10:22.960 There's a huge baby boom among white women in their late thirties. If you stay healthy and you take

00:10:29.100 care of yourself, you can have babies later. It's not over. You're not dried up and old. Like

00:10:36.260 some people try and fear monger people into thinking. Fear mongering. Exactly. That's what

00:10:41.760 the medical community around pregnancy and birth is just complete fear mongering. I have a friend

00:10:47.560 who's 37 and she's had two home births and she was considered high risk and her OB didn't want to see

00:10:55.580 her because she knew she was having a home birth and he said he was too old. She was too old, but

00:11:00.460 she rocked it. She had two babies at home, completely healthy and perfectly fine.

00:11:05.180 Yep. There's a lot of women that are having babies, having their last kids at 45. I come from women

00:11:09.680 that had babies until they were 45. My grandma had my mom when she was 43 years old. So, yeah, I mean,

00:11:17.740 if you take care of yourself, I think that's another thing that all you girls know about is,

00:11:21.700 you know, the chemicals, what you're eating, what you expose yourself to. All these things affect

00:11:26.440 your fertility, your egg quality, just your overall health because there can be some girls that are

00:11:32.220 22 and have horrible egg quality because of their lifestyle choices and what they eat and the products

00:11:38.080 they use. And there could be a woman who's 35 who actually has better egg quality. So, these things

00:11:43.680 are also important. I would say that how you take care of your body now especially is going to affect

00:11:48.620 how it works 10 years from now. So, keep that in mind. And you also want to pass on

00:11:54.040 good genes and good health to your child. So, while you're pregnant, you want to make sure that

00:12:00.200 taking care of yourself is your number one priority. I know a lot of like the mentality when you're

00:12:06.820 pregnant, you're like, oh, I can eat whatever I want. I'm pregnant. But actually, it should be the

00:12:11.460 opposite. You should be really strict about what you eat because it's not only you. It's also your

00:12:16.080 child and then your child's child and so forth. It's your bloodline. You're taking care of it.

00:12:22.040 Your bloodline. Laura, I know you're a health nut like me. Were your pregnancies pretty easy?

00:12:28.200 Oh, my first pregnancy, I was before I knew anything about health. And my first pregnancy is

00:12:35.500 what drove me to this point in my life. Absolutely. And that pregnancy was a lot more difficult than my

00:12:41.940 second pregnancy. My second pregnancy, I always say like, besides morning sickness, but I always was

00:12:48.660 like, I don't even feel pregnant. Like I felt great. And that's when I was really health minded. And my

00:12:54.140 labor with my second was really fast, easy, not a problem. As opposed to my first, it was, it was

00:13:01.320 terrible. It was horrible. And I was eating like, cookies and sprudels and terrible with my first and my

00:13:09.560 second. I really strove to be better. And it was so much better. Yeah. And then you can make better

00:13:14.700 choices once you learn some of the crazy things that go on in hospitals. You know, once you learn

00:13:19.340 some of those things, I just did a show with Ayla and Jennifer. Listen to that because we talk about

00:13:23.640 some of the crazy things hospitals will try and do to your baby that you need to know about so that

00:13:28.140 you can be informed. So if you do decide to go have babies in a hospital, there's certain things that

00:13:32.460 you really need to say no to for the health of your baby. We want healthy, healthy little European

00:13:38.140 babies here, right? Healthy, not sickly, not. Yeah, that's a whole nother topic. Absolutely

00:13:44.020 agree. So on the subject of femininity, do you ladies think that women have lost their femininity,

00:13:51.980 their softness or the becoming more male brain? I think it's there underneath the skin. I think

00:14:00.060 it has been lost a little bit, but it can never be fully lost. And I think that's why so many

00:14:06.100 women today are on antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications is because they're feeling the

00:14:13.080 discord inside of themselves because they are not living a true feminine lifestyle and they're

00:14:18.840 feeling it. But today's medical society just wants to push it away and get a medication for that.

00:14:26.980 And, but it's, it's trying to reemerge and we should let it reemerge and not medicate it.

00:14:32.120 I was having this conversation with Brittany Pettibone a little while ago about the same

00:14:36.100 thing and she was telling me how she went into a mall and all the clothes for women just looked

00:14:40.680 so unbearably masculine. And I've noticed we've kind of glamorized things that are

00:14:46.040 just so masculine. Like I remember when I was a kid, yes, when I was a kid and I was watching

00:14:53.300 gymnastics and figure skating, I had this bias toward the girls with the long, beautiful, sensual

00:14:58.120 hair and all the gymnasts with the little pixie cut. I just thought they just look like boys.

00:15:04.000 Yeah.

00:15:04.360 So they just look like boys. So I've always kind of had a thing for long feminine hair. And I think

00:15:10.000 we need to bring that back and stop saying that girls with a half shade head are edgy.

00:15:14.400 They're not edgy.

00:15:15.440 I used to have a haircut like that when I was totally, totally.

00:15:19.640 We all do dumb things when we're young. Yes. I had purple hair saying a band long ago too.

00:15:25.780 So I did the blood red thing.

00:15:30.000 Oh, nice.

00:15:32.200 I think with women working that it's kind of a natural inclination to want to be more masculine

00:15:37.640 because you'll be rewarded financially if you are more decisive and more forthright about

00:15:43.440 wanting a raise, things like that. And so I think that that's probably where this guise

00:15:47.800 of masculinity is coming from. But I, you know, I worked on Wall Street for a little while

00:15:52.600 and historically until I started my YouTube channel, I've been a kind of a career woman.

00:15:56.340 And as soon as I stopped doing that, it's just been about embracing my femininity.

00:16:00.400 And so I think that it's really unnatural for women to be in that world.

00:16:04.620 And once they're removed from it, that they do kind of go back to their roots and their femininity.

00:16:11.500 Yeah. I think too much time working, too much time around politics, too much time, you know,

00:16:18.080 thinking about making lots of money. These are very male brain type of things. I know that if I'm

00:16:23.200 involved in that side too long, I feel miserable. I'm not happy like that. You know, it's much more

00:16:29.540 fun to be around the house, be with family, do, you know, do little things around the house. Like

00:16:35.700 for me, it's more cathartic and it kind of sets me right. Being outside and just to me, that's a good

00:16:41.440 example of, you know, sometimes when we try and work too much, work too hard, be too involved in

00:16:46.780 politics. It's a very masculine thing. And it's almost like we feel that on some level that we're

00:16:51.680 going against what our natural state, if you know what I mean.

00:16:56.260 I was always much happier in home economics classes than I was in any kind of male brain

00:17:00.500 algebra science kind of class. I just nailed my home economics classes. I love the cooking,

00:17:05.660 love the sewing. So I don't know. I think they kind of programmed that out of me by the time I got

00:17:10.880 to high school. And I was made fun of a lot for looking forward and going to sew in class and

00:17:16.600 making a stuffed animal in home economics and cooking pasta. And I really did feel as though

00:17:22.700 I was being told that that wasn't what a woman should really strive for. And that was for weak

00:17:27.360 women. Right. Yeah. I think it's about having a balance because we are left brain, right brain.

00:17:32.400 Everything is a balance. We do have some masculine aspects and we do have some feminine aspects and

00:17:36.640 it's about learning to balance them. I mean, look at us ladies. We talk about politics, we do videos,

00:17:40.880 we fight back. We're also kind of in a time of emergency, like I've talked about, you know,

00:17:44.580 shield means have to rise to the occasion when the town is being attacked. Right. And that's kind

00:17:49.020 of how I feel where we are. But it's about it's about a delicate balance. I know some days if I

00:17:53.620 work too hard, it's like, oh, shoot, you know, we have to take care of this and this and this. And

00:17:56.980 then I feel miserable that some things around the house have been like, oh, you know, so it's about

00:18:00.780 balancing your time and balancing. How do you do all three do it? Because you do videos,

00:18:05.320 you're involved in anti-white politics, you're fighting back. So how do you juggle things

00:18:09.800 at home, family, relationships, and fighting back against cultural Marxism, I guess, anti-white

00:18:17.180 politics? I think you definitely have to pick and choose. And I think that goes back to

00:18:24.060 when you're operating under true feminine nature, you have a better connection to your intuition.

00:18:32.780 And so, you know, OK, now is the good time for me to do a video. Now is a good time to take a break

00:18:39.400 more connected to be able to choose the time. And a good tip that I have if, you know, someone

00:18:46.600 watching has children and they feel really overwhelmed is to definitely invest in a mother's

00:18:53.100 helper, especially if you're going to be homeschooling and your kids won't be gone being programmed all

00:18:58.240 day, you know, and you're with them all day is to get a mother's helper who comes to your house

00:19:03.620 and watches your kids so that you could get a laptop, go upstairs, edit your videos, stuff like

00:19:10.940 that. Because traditionally, we didn't live in these little nuclear families like, you know,

00:19:17.480 separate. We had sisters, we had, you know, grandmothers and stuff helping all the women

00:19:24.620 helped. So if you have to pay for it, fine, but you need it. So do it.

00:19:29.020 Very good point. The village helped raise the kids. And I absolutely agree with that. You can

00:19:34.300 have babysitters come. You can have grandma come. Well, you know, mom needs to take time to go

00:19:39.400 do a battle to fight back against anti-white politics for her kids for her kids future.

00:19:44.500 And to me, you don't know what I'm doing upstairs. If you only knew. Right. And see, to me, this is kind

00:19:50.980 of this is the the ideal alt-right woman. I mean, she she has a good relationship. She keeps a little

00:19:56.820 fashy household, but she's also fighting back. You know, she's smart. She knows that she needs to

00:20:01.580 fight back. I mean, it would be nice to be able to just bake pretty cookies all day and pick out

00:20:06.520 curtains and stuff. But that's just not the times that we live in. We don't have that kind of luxury.

00:20:10.900 There's things that we have to do for the future of our children. So these times call for drastic

00:20:16.240 measures. So we actually have to be united with our husbands and fighting back as much as we can.

00:20:21.880 Correct. Yeah, absolutely. And even if you just do one thing a day, sometimes I barely managed to get

00:20:27.860 a blog post up and I just have to tell myself, OK, that blog post is enough. You don't need to do

00:20:32.520 more than that. And the one day I do filming, OK, you did a video. That's enough. And schedule it out

00:20:38.520 and remind yourself you're not superwoman. Just get one thing out a day to help out and don't set

00:20:44.340 unrealistic expectations for yourself that you have to do it all because you watch other people because

00:20:49.000 Blonde and I, I know I were talking about this before we went live, how every time I see her

00:20:53.260 get a video up, I'm like, oh, I'm behind. I need to do a video. I need to get caught up. My viewers

00:20:59.540 are waiting. But no, no, go at your own pace. You manage to get one thing done at a time and don't

00:21:05.260 set unrealistic expectations for yourself and you are helping out. That's true. And then when I'm feeling

00:21:10.980 discouraged or like I need to get a video out, sometimes it helps if I look at my entire body of

00:21:15.540 work. Then it makes me calm down. It's like, well, this is what I've accomplished in the last year.

00:21:19.400 So if it takes another week because I feel creatively depleted, it's just going to take

00:21:22.640 that much. And along those lines, you said like doing one thing every day. I think that's really,

00:21:26.660 really helpful. When I'm like working all day, I always try. It sounds like such a small thing,

00:21:30.880 but I always try to cook like a really nice dinner because then I feel like I'm contributing

00:21:35.460 something in my relationship, that I'm doing something for myself, that I'm building a skill

00:21:38.940 and it doesn't take a lot of brain power. And so that's kind of how every day I'm like,

00:21:43.040 all right, I've been doing this man stuff all day. So I kind of bring it back that way.

00:21:47.400 Yeah. I think also if you follow, you know, women naturally have a cycle of times where

00:21:54.300 they are really creative and they can put a lot out there and then you have, you know,

00:22:00.300 the opposite. You have times where you need to be introspective. And so if you can take advantage

00:22:05.760 of those two times, you can take the quiet time to plan and get it all set up and ready for the time

00:22:13.560 where you do have the energy to go out there and do and be inspired to enact things. So taking,

00:22:22.500 you know, knowing, like I was saying, the right time for each action.

00:22:26.520 Exactly. The part of being feminine is, you know, the masculine side of things. Men can,

00:22:31.240 they can just power through and they can do force and they can say, I need to get this done today

00:22:35.880 because that comes from a survival thing. They had to provide for their families or they would die.

00:22:40.420 You know, women, it's a different situation. We shouldn't be forcing it. It should flow. We're

00:22:45.720 feminine, we're water, we're all those things. So it needs to just flow. If there's days where you feel

00:22:51.740 that energy, then go with it. If there's days that you don't and you feel emotional and just need to

00:22:56.880 step away, step away. Right. Yeah. Listening to your body is something that I think feminists have

00:23:04.980 like just cast aside, but really you need to listen to yourself because yourself knows beyond all what

00:23:14.160 you've been programmed, you still have it inside. And be patient with yourself too. I had a day

00:23:20.040 yesterday when I was trying to film and the first take that I did, I had a piece of dust on the lens

00:23:25.040 that was like right here. I had to re-film it. And then my second take, my light fell onto my camera

00:23:30.740 and I nearly lost everything and it caused an avalanche. Some days it's just not meant to be.

00:23:35.740 Yeah. And just accept it. You can be here with yourself and you'll get another opportunity. And like

00:23:41.000 Blonde said, do something small for yourself, whether or not it's just cooking a meal for your family.

00:23:45.940 And that will give you a feeling of fulfillment. I always feel so good when I like have, have a dinner

00:23:52.800 ready and prepped. And I've, I really actually find chopping vegetables to be extremely therapeutic

00:24:00.200 and meditative. Yeah. Me too. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one. It's the thing about the control

00:24:07.980 of the knife. I don't know. There's a power to it. You're so in the moment. You don't have to think

00:24:12.420 about like, you know, all the problems of the world. You're just like, I'm going to chop off a finger.

00:24:18.100 Right. Exactly. When my sister gets stressed out, she makes pies. I like it.

00:24:24.420 Yeah. I mean, I wish we lived in a world where we had our ideal European society and we were just

00:24:32.020 focusing on high culture and progressing in ways that were actually important and making beautiful

00:24:37.640 art and beautiful architecture and, you know, like another renaissance. I wish that's the times that we

00:24:44.080 lived in. And I, I, I, I long for that, but unfortunately that's not the times that we live

00:24:48.580 in. So we're in a different generation, you know, we're kind of, our back is up against the wall.

00:24:53.360 So we're, we're forced to kind of step up in different ways where I think a lot of our, where

00:24:57.700 our mothers maybe should have, our grandparents maybe should have. So we have, we have a lot of

00:25:02.040 slack to make up for, for our children. And I feel it's our duty to do these things. It's not enough

00:25:08.140 just to, you know, feed your kids right. You also have to fight for them and, and teach them to

00:25:14.080 think right, show them the propaganda. These things are important. Yeah. It's our, it's our duty to

00:25:20.160 correct what went wrong in the future generation. Absolutely. And it also prepares them for the

00:25:27.760 harshness of this anti-white culture we're going through right now. And it teaches them how to defend

00:25:31.780 themselves. Yeah. Because generally, wasn't it always women thinking back of pagan societies and

00:25:36.960 whatnot. It was women that were in charge of educating the children, right? In the schools,

00:25:41.820 weren't they the school teachers? So in your mind, what is the ideal alt-right woman? What is she like?

00:25:52.320 Who wants to jump in there first? I never, I always say I don't like to idolize like the perfect

00:26:01.320 figure of what you ought to be because just, you're not them. They're not you. Have your own

00:26:06.700 expectations. It's good to have an archetype, maybe some goals to kind of strive for, right?

00:26:11.120 Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Of course. I would say the ideal alt-right woman takes care of her man

00:26:15.960 and he takes care of her. And they try to kind of try to strive for a traditional lifestyle of being,

00:26:22.180 the woman being at home with the kids and the man is the breadwinner. It doesn't always have to be the

00:26:27.000 case and can't always be the case these days because sometimes both couples have to work just out of

00:26:31.360 necessity with the economy, but definitely trying to give your children an education that's free of

00:26:37.080 cultural Marxism. I think it's a big feature that you should be idolizing.

00:26:41.740 Yeah. I think also the ideal woman would also be connected to nature. Like just, that's a good way

00:26:51.640 to help recenter yourself and calm yourself. Like just go outside for a little while and touch the earth

00:26:59.200 with your skin. And, um, I think that would really help women to learn how to balance,

00:27:05.080 balance themselves. Yeah. And, and along that, that thread to have a wide variety of, uh, skills,

00:27:12.840 like a huge breadth and skillset. So like, you know, be able to change a diaper and to cook and to do all

00:27:18.240 the domestic stuff, but also have some like basic handyman skills, be some, be somewhat independent.

00:27:23.640 Um, I think that's important for, for all women. I mean, for me, I'm lucky because I was always

00:27:28.560 surrounded by a Renaissance men, my father, my brother, they could cook, they can do things around

00:27:33.900 the house, but they were gentlemen. And I was lucky enough to marry someone like that because for me

00:27:38.760 it was, and I think it is for a lot of women, it is a turnoff when a guy can't boil an egg or help

00:27:44.680 change the baby's diaper or something. And that's where I think alt-right couples, couples are different

00:27:49.400 and alt-right men are different. It's not just the old traditional where the woman cooks every

00:27:53.320 single meal and the guy never helps and he doesn't know how to do anything. And that's how a lot of

00:27:57.440 the leftist media is trying to portray women like us and, uh, being anti-feminist that we're just

00:28:02.580 serving our husbands and that our husbands can't do anything for themselves and they don't help for

00:28:06.820 themselves. That's going to wear out so quickly. They're just feeding a dead horse with that.

00:28:11.600 And hopefully we're showing them that that's, that is like, stop using that because it's,

00:28:17.480 and also because I think the fastest way, you know, talking about dating, the fastest way to

00:28:23.720 like, uh, kill sex drive in a relationship is to like, is if your man is like, if you're just

00:28:32.520 picking up after him and you're the maid, you know, just like, yeah, I, I, I love when my husband comes

00:28:39.220 home from work and I have a good meal. I feel so proud and I feel like I'm helping him to do better,

00:28:44.820 um, in supporting me, but also, you know, men should pick up after themselves and stuff like

00:28:51.500 that because you don't want to be their mother or, you know, they're made, you want to be their

00:28:56.880 partner and you guys work together. And I also think that women shouldn't, I see like a lot of

00:29:02.580 women being afraid to make a change. Like they're, they're stuck in their ways they were taught to be

00:29:09.160 and, and they just, it's scary and it is scary. It's scary to make a change and to, to do something

00:29:15.760 different, really different to, you know, if your pediatrician is hounding you about something you

00:29:22.100 don't want to do, then get a different pediatrician. You have to go out there and make a change and not

00:29:28.720 be afraid of it. Yeah. To pick up also on what Bree said, it's true. There's a lot of different

00:29:33.820 couples, alt-right couples that found themselves in different situations. They've all waken up in different

00:29:38.520 ways. I mean, I know some couples where the woman actually makes more money and the guy knows how to

00:29:43.780 cook. So there is all kinds of different combos, you know, it's not always so rigid and there are

00:29:48.100 exceptions to the rule. So we always have to keep that in mind, but, and overall they share the big

00:29:54.100 picture, the future of our people, the future of our children, politics, and those are the most

00:29:59.340 important things. And I always like to draw inspiration back from the pagan societies when men and women

00:30:04.760 worked together as a unit to get things, get things done. And sometimes there was some crossover

00:30:10.020 in different places, right? In times when it had to be. I was having a conversation with a journalist

00:30:15.980 the other day and she was acting like prior to feminism and the suffrage movement, women were just

00:30:20.680 oppressed and weren't part of anything and had no freedom. And I'm like, Greece, Rome, Norse. I mean,

00:30:28.340 women were making things in the workplace. They were philosophers. They were very active. So it's just

00:30:33.880 bullshit that we were just oppressed and like changed to the stove. Stoves didn't even exist

00:30:38.640 in those times, right? Right. Well, that's why they like to make homemaking out to be like a

00:30:45.160 pointless, awful thing when actually it's like setting your culture up for success.

00:30:51.940 Yeah. And I heard it said, I just watched this movie for the first time a few days ago. I think

00:30:55.320 it was my big fat Greek wedding. There was this one line in there that really stuck out to me when she

00:30:59.260 said, in a relationship, the man is the head and the woman is the neck. But remember,

00:31:04.100 the neck can move the head any way it wants. So just remember that it can be a power play,

00:31:11.000 but you can both complement each other really well. Absolutely. Women, we have the ability to

00:31:15.960 inspire and that is what we do. You know, usually beauty women are known for, you know, being beautiful

00:31:21.460 and we inspire. It's not about demanding. Yeah. Why do they go to battle? They have the picture

00:31:27.040 of their woman in their head. That's why they do it. Yeah, of course. Exactly. Everything they do

00:31:32.380 is for women. And I always remind people that too, the whole Western civilization and the whole reason

00:31:37.340 to bring us art and drama and paintings and beautiful clothes. It's European men who have made

00:31:43.980 all these things. And when you really get down to it, it's about wooing the woman. You know,

00:31:47.620 it's like how the male bird shakes the tail feather and he has to have some bling to get the female

00:31:55.060 bird to mate. All of it has been one big romantic dance that I see that men have built this civilization

00:32:00.720 for us and for the reason of procreating and for our children and for them to be able to prosper and

00:32:06.360 to be safe. That's why they built these societies for us. The left likes to have like the monopoly on

00:32:12.540 the word love, you know, but, but their definition of love is just so like incorrect. It's ridiculous.

00:32:21.220 And they like to paint the alt-right and traditional women as women who are just cleaning diapers and

00:32:27.280 doing the cooking and doing the sewing and cleaning the house. Like that's all there. That's, that's

00:32:31.540 what the alt-right wants. That's what traditionalists people want. They just want to go back to the old

00:32:35.800 way of doing things as if we don't have any ideas incorporated from the now, which bothers me because

00:32:42.720 it turns people off of traditionalism. If they think of women in the 1910s or something, and they

00:32:48.620 tell them that women then were oppressed when in fact that helped to lead to a really good nation and

00:32:53.820 a really good society and a feeling of unity. And they just think we want to go back to the 1950s.

00:32:58.800 No, no, we appreciate a lot of the aspects of the 1950s. And we admire that the family was much

00:33:05.380 stronger back then. Women were in much stronger relationships back then. There was less degradation

00:33:10.840 and promiscuity back then, but we're not wanting to re-chain women to the stove.

00:33:16.580 Right, right. And I love getting this argument on my channel too, or like seeing it on, on Lana's.

00:33:20.500 It's like, we are in masculine type careers right now. Like, how can you, how can you say that? This is

00:33:26.580 that we're so stereotypical when we're doing something that is socially alienating us, like

00:33:30.700 as we speak, you know, that's hard on women. Yeah. Women, what about us? Yeah. Women have a hard time

00:33:35.900 taking criticism, taking the hits and women like us are out there and we are taking the hits. And it

00:33:41.640 does require putting on kind of a masculine shield at times to be able to withstand some of those hits.

00:33:47.860 But I think that it's important for other women. And I've seen that since a lot of ladies like you

00:33:52.880 are out there doing this, it's drawn in a lot more women. And that's why the left is, they're getting

00:33:57.740 really worried about that. And I've said this many times, but when women get involved, it becomes

00:34:02.580 serious because matches are made. There's also a way that women have of delivering things and kind of

00:34:08.320 being a spokesmodels, if you will, for the movement. A little more palatable coming from a, from a chick,

00:34:14.080 I think. Exactly. Exactly. And it draws in more people. They're more curious because, you know,

00:34:18.960 we have a softness and we can say hard things and be soft, especially a beautiful woman. She can get

00:34:23.860 away with saying a lot of hard things. And I think that that's one of the reasons why they're freaking

00:34:28.880 out about the alt-right, kind of normalizing a lot of our ideas for other women. Like it's okay to think

00:34:34.920 like us. And if you do, there's this whole tribe here that you can join of girls that actually have

00:34:39.580 your back for the first time in your life, because a lot of white women haven't had that. A lot of girls

00:34:45.140 that I talk to, like all of you, we all had tons of guy friends because women were generally catty

00:34:51.140 bitches. And I think that they were programmed to be that way through a lot of Marxist TV shows and

00:34:56.500 rhetoric. There has been a covert agenda to get white women to be at each other's throats. Would you agree

00:35:02.100 with that? Oh yeah. Especially with the cartoons these days that kids watch. Just, I pretty, I monitor

00:35:10.000 what my daughters watch very much, but that first initial time we watch it, I make sure I like to

00:35:17.820 watch it too. It's like all these shows, I just, I can't even listen to it because it's, they're just

00:35:24.160 all bickering, bickering, bickering. And you know, that weird sarcasm rudeness and like the stomping and

00:35:33.540 like, I don't want my daughters to pick that up at all and being catty like that. Yeah. Just look

00:35:39.640 at shows like Gossip Girl and how those girls treat one another. And you get a big lesson in what our

00:35:44.780 kids are going to be potentially seeing as far as how to treat kids at school and just the lack of

00:35:49.620 respect for one another. Oh, we were so mean to each other, the girls and I, we used to sit in a circle

00:35:54.400 and I might've talked a lot about this before, but we would sit in a circle and take turns telling each

00:35:58.480 other what was wrong with the other one. We were in like sixth or seventh grade. But I look back up

00:36:03.100 on that now, it was like a totally normal game for us. But I'm like, oh my God, the self-esteem damage

00:36:08.180 that we were doing to one another is going to last for the rest of our lives. Everybody involved in

00:36:12.340 that. And we're like, la, la, la, la, this is so fun. I mean, it's one thing for constructive

00:36:16.320 criticism. I appreciate that. I think good friends could be able to tell you things in a nice kind way.

00:36:22.080 Hey, you know, maybe you can improve in that. I appreciate it when people do that with me,

00:36:25.340 but then there's this awful way of doing it.

00:36:28.480 Yeah. My friends are, are, I have like a, a big group of friends and we're all really close and

00:36:35.220 you guys know me and how, you know, crazy natural I, I am. And I can like, we have a group text and

00:36:43.460 I'm always thinking like, okay, all my friends are probably rolling their eyes right now, but I'm

00:36:48.160 going to say it, you know, like I'm going to constructive criticism. Yeah. And the other thing is if you look

00:36:55.220 at a lot of the TV shows and this has been happening, God, since the seventies and the eighties,

00:36:59.960 when you go back and look at a lot of those movies, the evil girl in school is always the

00:37:04.360 pretty blonde girl, right? She's the bad one. She's the bitchy one. She's the trouble one. She's the

00:37:10.620 privileged one. And even today you see that it's the pack of white girls, the pretty white girls that

00:37:15.600 are the problem. And it's the mixed race or the multicultural or the lefty ugly girl with her

00:37:20.440 little cat glasses and purple hair. Those are, that are the good ones, right?

00:37:25.940 Just look at mean girls and the very, the girls that got along and hailed themselves as being

00:37:30.240 good people. They were the outcasts. Like what was that one girl's name? I can't even remember.

00:37:33.980 She had like raccoon eyeliner and the goth hair and she was supposed to be the real friend and

00:37:39.720 the, the plastics where all the pretty girls were, were just enemy number one.

00:37:45.340 They're always the underdog and, you know, like celebrating weakness.

00:37:50.680 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I mean, I've said this many times, but I mean, liberalism,

00:37:56.920 what's happening to us, attacks on the alt-right is a war on beauty. Would you all agree with that?

00:38:03.940 Well, yeah, absolutely. Just look at all the, the comments on my YouTube videos. I, I want to like

00:38:09.760 put together like a, like a screenshot of all the times someone has asked me like, where are your

00:38:16.340 eyebrows? What's up with this? Like, I have like, like a list and it's like hilarious. Like,

00:38:22.920 okay, I don't bleach my hair. My hair is, I have eyebrows guys and they're actually quite hairy and

00:38:29.160 I get them waxed. And everyone's like, oh, the comments. Yeah.

00:38:36.040 Don't read your comments. I've gotten to the point where I almost never read them.

00:38:39.720 Yeah. A lot of times don't forget there's a lot of lefty agitators and GIDF type groups that are

00:38:45.720 out there and just commenting away, you know, trying to make the, make the movement look bad

00:38:49.960 and trying to attack women. I noticed a lot of the worst comments will be directed towards women.

00:38:54.120 And I don't think that they're coming from our people. I really don't. And it's always a comment

00:38:58.860 about how you look or how you sound. It's never, I don't have any about your argument or what you're

00:39:04.520 saying. I'm like, come on, somebody get me going here. Like stop talking about the way I look like

00:39:11.100 challenge me. I want to get like, it used to bother me so much. But then one time I went to the Daily

00:39:17.620 Mail or something stupid. And I was looking in the comment section of this beautiful actress,

00:39:21.820 Margot Robbie, who, who's like perfect looking. Yeah, she's gorgeous. And I was looking at the

00:39:25.500 comments. Beautiful. Yeah. I was looking at the comments and like, there was one that was hugely

00:39:29.040 upvoted that was like this fat old bitch. I was like, all right, if, if Margot Robbie is getting

00:39:33.760 this, then I can give myself a break here and stop reading my comment section all the time.

00:39:38.060 Yeah. For me, it's always my voice. People always want to say something about my voice. And my voice

00:39:42.180 is actually a disability for me. I was born premature and my vocal cords don't like open the whole way.

00:39:46.560 But I always try to look at it as a positive, like a Demi Moore, Marilyn Monroe kind of voice.

00:39:51.840 Like maybe it's an extra feature, but oh my God, people are brutal in the comments about my voice.

00:39:57.840 So it always comes, it comes down to the way you look or the way you sound. A lot of the time,

00:40:03.160 they don't actually counter your argument. And why do they want to accept like,

00:40:08.340 you know, the, the saying I was born this way, but it doesn't apply to like me,

00:40:13.120 a white person with really white hair. I was born this way. My eyebrows are white. It's okay.

00:40:20.440 Yeah. I think that's another reason so many women get into liberalism is that liberals think they

00:40:24.160 have a monopoly on acceptance and beauty. So you're beautiful just the way you are. You don't need to

00:40:28.960 lose weight. You're beautiful with that electric blue hair. That's about this long.

00:40:35.160 You're beautiful wearing those combat boots and a trench coat. You're, you're fine just the way you

00:40:40.400 are. And they think they have a monopoly on beauty by accepting all forms of degeneracy as beauty.

00:40:46.060 Of course you're, you're fine the way you are. And we accept everybody. Unless if you're, uh,

00:40:51.220 let's see, national socialist, fascist, all to right, traditionalist, Christian. I mean,

00:40:57.220 the list just goes on and on. Right.

00:40:58.760 We're just, why are we the ones losing friends? Like when we've tolerated all,

00:41:04.900 all of it and we still want our accepting of our leftist friends, but it's them that just want to

00:41:12.160 shut us out. That's true. I, I lost a friendship back in January pretty brutally where, uh, a friend

00:41:18.540 called me up in tears, just sobbing to pieces because I had written a couple of blog posts on

00:41:24.000 race realism. She said, we couldn't be friends anymore. I was just so racist and so intolerant.

00:41:28.480 And she hoped I healed from this very hateful period of my life. And it's not the way to be.

00:41:33.620 And I'm just going, I tolerated your far, far, far left feminist friends for the last three years

00:41:39.700 and went to your breakfast parties where you were pretty much trashing the men that you were with

00:41:45.860 on a constant basis.

00:41:47.280 Were they vegan breakfast parties?

00:41:48.640 Independent women. Pardon?

00:41:50.480 I said, were they vegan breakfast parties? Were they having soy patties?

00:41:53.420 No, I mean, I have a picture of me with all of them. And I was like the tiniest one in the group.

00:41:57.380 They were all overweight.

00:41:59.520 This is why they want to try and redefine beauty so that it can include all the ugly girls. It's

00:42:03.860 always the ugly girls saying beauty is old fashioned. There, there is no ideal beauty. And

00:42:09.240 it's like, uh, there is a golden ratio that exists when a beautiful woman walks in the room. Everyone

00:42:14.120 knows she is a beautiful woman. There is no denying it. Same goes with men. You know, like that is a

00:42:19.840 handsome, good looking man. You're never going to take that away.

00:42:22.960 And that is something I will say of the right is that it's just, we're just better looking. We're just

00:42:26.580 better looking than the left. Like when I look at feminists in Seattle, I'm like, man, this

00:42:30.280 acceptance thing has really allowed you to stop doing baseline maintenance on yourself.

00:42:35.540 I'm not, I'm not talking like, I'm talking like, don't cover yourself in tattoos and gain a hundred

00:42:39.980 pounds. That's baseline maintenance in Seattle. These women, they really don't care. They're like,

00:42:44.480 you're going to love me no matter what.

00:42:45.740 Yeah. The bar is really low on the left as far as who they will accept.

00:42:52.060 Well, you, you guys brought up a good point. Losing friends now have a lot of you lost friends,

00:42:57.820 uh, girlfriends specifically, or do you still have leftist friends? What's going on in that front?

00:43:02.600 I pushed my last leftist friend. Sorry. Go ahead, go ahead. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead,

00:43:07.200 blonde. I wasn't doing too great in the female friends department before I started my channel. So

00:43:11.420 I haven't like lost too many friends. I, I kind of cut the fat, but, um, it's caused some problems in

00:43:16.800 my existing interpersonal relationships. And like my parents aren't, aren't super happy about some of

00:43:22.640 the stuff I've said. Um, yeah. Same here that I had to break to the family that I was touching on a few

00:43:30.020 subjects that they were kind of like, Oh, I prefer if you didn't, but it's, it's your life. It's your

00:43:35.740 channel. Do what you want. And like I said, I had a massive backlash with that one friend and all her

00:43:41.420 like 20 friends unfurtered me on Facebook overnight. So it was kind of a chain, kind of like a chain

00:43:46.300 reaction thing. You really did cut the fat. Yeah. Like overnight and afterwards I kind of felt like

00:43:51.540 2000 pounds of fat. I felt pretty good afterwards, actually. Like now I can really let loose because

00:43:58.640 I'm not trying to protect anybody. Yeah. What about you, Elora? You know, I'm not yet, but I feel

00:44:06.060 like it's coming. It could be coming. Um, so not yet though. Well now look out because they're

00:44:13.800 relating, uh, homemaking, cooking, a lot of the things that you do with, uh, fascism. Look at man

00:44:19.700 in the high castle, the, the, yeah, the, the woman that's pretty and keeps things nice and cooks and

00:44:25.960 it's orderly fascists, right? That's trouble. I mean, literally these are things that they're

00:44:30.780 saying. Our friend Ayla was recently attacked in the press as you saw. I mean, she's just a cute

00:44:36.880 little housewife who's just gentle and kind and speaks. I know. And she just has a Twitter and a

00:44:42.420 small channel. It's like, why is this news? Why is this on daily mail, New York post, some Salt Lake

00:44:47.800 city, um, you know, tribune or something like that. It's like it got picked up probably by five or six

00:44:52.700 pretty big media outlets. Set her as an example, basically to shame. They want to, they want to

00:44:57.920 shame women who are like that, who talk like that, make an example. So if you're like Ayla and you

00:45:03.140 even think about these things, you never know. The daily mail might do a paper, might do a story on

00:45:08.940 you and all your family and friends are going to freak out and lose you. And it's an intimidation

00:45:13.700 tactic. Yeah. And it's Chris, daily mail used to consider, be considered conservative, right? They're

00:45:18.400 always talking about mass immigration and the white low birth rate. And then they attack Ayla,

00:45:23.320 who's offering a solution. Well, have more babies. That's how you know that we are really making

00:45:29.080 strides is when they have to resort to that. They're afraid and they should be.

00:45:34.740 Yeah, they ought to be because more and more women are waking up to how feminism has poisoned them and

00:45:39.840 they want to find men and they want to find a good home life. And the more that we do this and wake

00:45:44.320 people up, the more that doxing isn't going to work. Right.

00:45:48.400 We have to network now where we can just rally the troops and people will get behind you if that

00:45:53.300 kind of thing happens. Yeah. And you have to think about why they found Ayla offensive or threatening.

00:45:59.800 They probably found her threatening. And it's because she exudes happiness. And you can tell

00:46:03.300 that she has achieved genuine lifelong happiness from her traditionalism. And she's a former feminist,

00:46:09.220 which makes her all the more powerful. Her opinion is all the more powerful.

00:46:12.120 Yeah. I mean, she had a degree in a female spirituality for crying out loud.

00:46:17.080 Like a higher degree. I think it was a master's degree. And she lived in San Francisco for a

00:46:20.620 decade. There's no way you're not going to be afflicted after that.

00:46:23.780 Well, do you guys think that women or ladies, I don't know why I'm saying guys,

00:46:28.060 are women more egalitarian by nature? What do you all think?

00:46:32.820 I think no to that front. Because if you look at like medieval times and Renaissance days,

00:46:38.140 women were pretty cutthroat. You can't marry that guy. He's not on the right station.

00:46:42.120 People in the royal court were pretty vicious. Oh, that woman lost her honor. You can't associate

00:46:46.800 with her. She had a baby out of wedlock or whatever. So I do think this egalitarian stuff

00:46:51.700 is rather recent, like with Lenin and communism and Trotsky and the Frankfurt School and all that.

00:46:58.480 I think that is a recent development that kind of caters to women as far as their sensitivities

00:47:04.660 and wanting to be empathetic with other people because we do come from issues from a very emotional

00:47:11.220 level the majority of the time. But I don't think it was always that way. You can just watch an

00:47:15.560 episode of Downton Abbey and see how they were saying, oh, you can't take that girl. She's above

00:47:20.140 your station. How dare you? You can't even sit with their family because I think the cab driver

00:47:24.660 married a girl of the family that they were serving and it was the biggest gossip around the town.

00:47:29.620 So I don't think they were naturally egalitarian in the past.

00:47:34.620 I definitely agree. And even though it's anecdotal, like I've had a few different

00:47:38.180 relationship types, like where I'm more dominant and then in the next relationship,

00:47:43.040 I'll try to be more submissive. And consistently, my relationships are of better quality when I'm

00:47:48.700 more submissive and when I follow the lead of the man I'm in the relationship with.

00:47:52.520 And so I think that that is, you know, I'm kind of an alpha woman. I think that that's probably

00:47:55.640 the natural state of even strong-willed women is they want to be with a stronger-willed man

00:48:00.860 to lead them and to guide them. And that's where they're most comfortable. And women don't want

00:48:05.640 to hear this. Like if you tell this to like a feminist, like, oh, they just do not want to hear it.

00:48:11.780 Yeah. But it's not necessarily that you're not strong. You just want to be with somebody that's

00:48:15.440 stronger. I don't think that we're natural egalitarians at all. Not at all. No.

00:48:20.700 I also think that women, like, they're, I always, I'm talking about intuition, but it's,

00:48:27.700 it's so true. Like, we deep down know who should get our attention and shoot and who shouldn't. Like,

00:48:35.220 like, we, we know that we can't make everyone happy. Okay. And we need to pick and choose

00:48:41.060 who's going to have our backs and who is not.

00:48:44.680 Yeah. I'd say that women are more competitive than anything. Exactly. We're not, we're not

00:48:48.800 egalitarian. What woman wants to be equal? She wants to be the best one in the room.

00:48:52.920 She wants to be above all the other girls. And this is based on a evolutionary thing. They want

00:48:57.580 to be the prettiest, the best woman in the room to attract the best man for people to look at her.

00:49:04.440 I mean, that's just a fact. So this whole egalitarianism thing is just fake. And if women

00:49:08.940 support that, honestly, they're just lying to themselves. So I wanted to get some thoughts on

00:49:14.740 why do you think the divorce rate is so high?

00:49:18.800 I definitely think it's because, because you have the masculine, you have the feminine,

00:49:25.420 and they're just like, trying to be what they're not. And if you have two, like a broken feminist,

00:49:32.800 feminine, femininity, and broken masculine, like two wrongs don't make a right. And they could be

00:49:39.060 together. But eventually, it's not going to work out. We need, we need one and we need the other

00:49:45.680 because we work together that way instead of, um, you know.

00:49:51.580 I think also women are getting increasingly fickle. I think women, I account for 70% of

00:49:56.640 initiations for divorces these days. I think I heard blonde saying that actually somewhere.

00:50:00.700 And, uh, you look at, look at what we're showed. Look at shows like Sex and the City where the men

00:50:06.760 are completely disposable. Oh, he did this. Oh, we'll just get rid of him. You can do better than

00:50:11.640 him. And they sit around the table and gossip about their men and pretty much come up with

00:50:16.660 reasons as to why they're not good enough for them. And then we have people like Elizabeth Gilbert

00:50:20.740 writing novels like Eat, Pray, Love. I remember back when I was a liberal and I thought that was the best book

00:50:25.220 in the world. And now I'm like, ew. Because it convinced a lot of women in their middle ages to

00:50:31.800 up and leave their spouse and that they can make it on their own and you're an independent woman.

00:50:37.160 So I think women, not all, but I think a lot of women are largely to blame just for making men

00:50:42.740 disposable. I would agree. Yeah. And that's what I was going to say. I hear people that are divorced

00:50:47.920 say like, oh, I fell out of love. I'm like, so? Work on it. Yeah. Figure it out. Like you have

00:50:54.940 kids. What do you mean you fell out of love? I don't even think that that matters. That's not

00:50:58.420 a basis for a divorce. When that happens in a relationship and you're married and you have

00:51:02.280 kids, especially like you just, you just got to work through it. You just got to find a way to

00:51:06.280 love the person that you've chosen because you've already built a life with them. But I see baby

00:51:10.280 boomers, like a lot of my friends' parents were divorced. I would say, I don't know, 70% growing up.

00:51:15.960 But I lived in like a really affluent area. That shouldn't be the case. And it's always

00:51:19.820 like, I just fell out of love with the person. I just couldn't do it.

00:51:22.820 I don't even know how that's possible. And that means that they didn't even love them to

00:51:25.540 begin with. I mean, there's different kinds of love. It's not always a goo goo gaga head

00:51:29.800 over heels all the time, but they're underneath that. It should be a love between like, this

00:51:34.860 is my best friend. This is someone I relate to. It's become a feeling of family. So I don't

00:51:39.360 understand how you could just fall out of love. I think too, a lot of women nowadays are

00:51:43.300 more in love with the wedding than the actual marriage. I mean, look at how many wedding

00:51:49.040 movies there are and how much money they make out of it. They're more obsessed with that

00:51:53.520 than the guy. They almost want to show off to their friends and they want to have the

00:51:57.340 big rock, you know?

00:51:59.360 And they're basically like little girls when they go into these marriages too. They're

00:52:04.240 not committed. They don't want to do hard work. And a lot of liberalism has made people

00:52:07.780 like children. They want that princess day where every girl can feel like a princess.

00:52:13.520 And I flat out told my boyfriend, I don't need a big wedding. I'd be fine with something

00:52:17.760 small. I already have the dress I bought at a vintage shop five years ago because it was

00:52:22.140 cheap and I thought it was pretty. I don't need this whole big shebang because I don't

00:52:26.960 like what it symbolizes that you need that sort of thing. I guess that's just the minimalist

00:52:31.140 in me. But yeah, I've never liked that whole huge wedding thing. I think it's kind of

00:52:37.220 like you're seeing a doomsday thing take place before you when you go to a huge wedding

00:52:42.160 because I noticed a lot of people who put more effort into that than they do the actual

00:52:46.820 marriage.

00:52:48.380 Yeah. There are studies that support that. People that spend more money on their wedding

00:52:52.520 tend to have higher rates of divorce, but that probably is a symptom of them being financially

00:52:57.720 irresponsible. I mean, you are spending tens and tens of thousands of dollars for a single

00:53:02.180 day. I used to work at a bridal shop and this woman came in and she spent 30,000,

00:53:07.220 30,000 dollars just on two dresses. And I was just thinking like, oh my God, like you

00:53:12.060 could travel the world for years with what you're spending on your wedding. Why would

00:53:16.480 you ever spend that much money? And it's just because you want to show people that you're

00:53:20.220 rich. I can't think of another reason.

00:53:21.820 Yeah. Just showing off basically.

00:53:24.460 Oh boy.

00:53:26.260 Well, I also wanted to ask, we talked about egalitarianism, but do you think that women

00:53:30.380 are generally conformist and afraid to take risks? Because look at us, we're obviously

00:53:36.420 not conformist and we're not afraid to take risks.

00:53:40.020 I think that we're an anomaly, not really the norm, because most women, they like having

00:53:44.920 their pack and they feel that they kind of seek validation through their friends and they

00:53:49.340 receive it emotionally through their friends. And when they lose that, they almost feel like

00:53:53.840 they lose a part of themselves. And I've known quite a few women over the years that they could

00:53:58.660 not not have a boyfriend. They always had to have a boyfriend. I knew a girl by the next

00:54:03.900 day, she would have a new boyfriend. So I think there is a quality to women that feel

00:54:09.380 more validated and more secure when they have a pack. I've always felt more validated by knowing

00:54:14.920 that I could survive on my own, which is I think why I can make videos and kind of be ostracized

00:54:20.860 a little bit by some individuals out there and not really feel anything about it. But I don't

00:54:25.200 think that's a normal quality.

00:54:27.440 I think also society is promoting laziness and not taking chances. And like, if I wouldn't

00:54:37.560 have taken a chance and had a voice to speak out, I would still, I would still be one of

00:54:44.460 the people you think is a housewife and just stays home. But I took a chance and I, I had

00:54:50.240 passion. I had passion in my life that I wanted to carry out. And I think that a lot of women

00:54:55.900 just through the foods we eat and the chemicals we're exposed to, we're just kind of like blah.

00:55:03.860 And that's what they want you to be is to be conformist, but we're not conformist by nature.

00:55:10.260 Yeah, that's a good point you made there. And with high risk comes big reward. All of us women

00:55:15.140 have taken risks here and we've been rewarded in different ways in our life. Some of us have met

00:55:20.160 love. Some of us have made great friends. Some of us are finding fulfillment and having a creative

00:55:27.040 outlet or letting the passion flow in a way, feeling more complete. So yeah, we're risk takers. Us

00:55:33.840 women are risk takers. And I'm always wondering what makes, what makes us women so different? Because

00:55:38.840 a lot of these liberal women, they're not risk takers. I mean, that's the sole conformity that even

00:55:43.220 though they have piercings and blue hair, there's no risk involved in that or swinging or saying

00:55:47.940 you're bisexual. There's no risk at all. What we do, what we do, what the things that we talk about,

00:55:53.420 that is a high risk area. I don't think it can get any more high risk. Yeah, we broke free of those.

00:55:59.580 We broke free of those chains, like saying, just stay on the couch, just stay down. You know,

00:56:05.900 we broke free of that. But I do kind of feel like I'm always fighting the need to conform. Like it's

00:56:12.280 still unnatural for me to take some of the positions that I do, which makes me think that

00:56:16.720 innately women do want to conform, that we want to be taken care of by our in-group, that we don't

00:56:22.140 want to be socially alienated. And I think that things in my life have prepared me for this alienation

00:56:28.460 in ways that are unique to me. But for the average woman, this would probably be a really awful

00:56:34.980 experience, I think. I think that it'd be overwhelming and stressful. But you ladies seem the same

00:56:40.240 way. I mean, do you feel like you want to take a position of conformity ever just to make your

00:56:45.560 life easier? I did for a while. I mean, the way I started making videos, I kind of plunged in head

00:56:51.720 first blind. I made my diversity in books video and the entire publishing industry came after me.

00:56:58.020 And it actually felt kind of freeing because I did feel the need to conform before then. And I wanted

00:57:01.940 maybe to be traditionally published one day. And after I realized that's never going to happen

00:57:07.380 because it's all predominantly leftist and Marxist and it wasn't the cool club I thought it was at

00:57:12.500 all, it was quite freeing. So from that adversity of undergoing a 360 SJW attack, I came out stronger

00:57:21.080 feeling like I can say whatever I want now. I can let her rip. So I'm going to let her rip.

00:57:25.600 And there's a certain level of freedom that you get from that. It's scary when it happens.

00:57:31.100 But later. Yeah. But later. Oh, my God. You feel so much stronger and tougher. And I go back and see

00:57:38.460 some of the other people that I used to associate with. And I'm sorry, those other ladies are weak.

00:57:43.500 You come out so much stronger than everyone else.

00:57:46.600 It does feel good to have, you know, found you ladies to know that you're not alone also.

00:57:52.020 And the other question, the other important question is conforming to what?

00:57:55.280 Yeah. I'm OK conforming to things like ethno-nationalism, you know, but I'm not OK conforming

00:58:02.340 to communism, for instance. So what are we conforming to is the most important thing to me. I want to

00:58:07.620 conform to the natural order of natural human states, the natural female state, how nature has

00:58:14.520 made me. I want to be in line with what nature made. And what we're being asked to conform to now

00:58:19.640 is something that's completely unnatural. You know, so for me, that made me made me miserable.

00:58:25.020 I think I picked up on it unconsciously. But I've always been the dreamer. I'm an artist. I've

00:58:30.260 always been a Pisces. So I've always kind of been more on the fringes. So for me, it was kind of a

00:58:36.240 natural transition when I met my husband and then we went into these things, you know. But I also have

00:58:40.400 a good support system. I have a family who thinks like I do in many ways. And I also have a husband

00:58:47.220 that's very supportive. And I think that that's really important. And I've made a lot of girlfriends

00:58:51.360 and friends. So having a support system, a tribe, a village makes that transition so much easier.

00:58:57.960 And I think that that's what we're doing here, ladies. We're building our tribe, you know.

00:59:02.700 And that's very, very important.

00:59:03.320 And don't be afraid to reach out to other right-wing women as well. I reached out to Blonde

00:59:06.720 thinking, oh my God, this girl's so cool. I want to be friends. Don't be afraid to reach out to

00:59:11.540 other right-wing women out there so you can have an outlet.

00:59:13.720 Yeah, this is how we build communities. Go ahead. Oh, this is how we build communities. And I don't

00:59:20.320 know if, I don't know about you guys, but like when I meet other women like me and like when I

00:59:24.340 do Red Ice and when I did Virtue of the West with Tara McCarthy and Brittany Pettibone, it gives me

00:59:29.880 like a sense of camaraderie and it emboldens me. And it makes me feel like there are other women who

00:59:34.580 are, you know, normal and well-rounded and beautiful. And they're doing this too with great success.

00:59:39.720 And it makes me feel like I'm part of something much bigger. And that, that, that's empowering.

00:59:44.500 Yeah. I was just going to say like finding, making friends when you're adult is, it can

00:59:50.720 be like sometimes a little awkward and you feel like you're dating again. You're like, hi,

00:59:56.400 I see we have this thing in common. You want to talk? Like, what? I don't know.

01:00:03.780 It's so much harder as you get older to make friends.

01:00:06.080 You got to, you got to push yourself to say hi. Yeah. Yeah. And right wingers are some of

01:00:10.520 the most accepting people I've ever met in my life. They, they, they really, they're the tolerant

01:00:17.300 ones. I have to say they really, they look out for one another in a way that I've never seen the

01:00:22.120 left do. The left eat their own. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think really the best way to reach a lot of

01:00:28.540 lefty women to kind of undo their brainwashing is through entrainment. And then I think it would

01:00:33.240 be being exposed to women like us who have a group who have a good time together, who are free women

01:00:40.040 that are attractive women that other women want to be like, if they see that, then they're, they,

01:00:44.680 they want to, they want to be in there. They want to be a part of that. They want to kind of be let

01:00:48.860 in on that. So a lot of it is just turning our back on those lefty women. And you know how women

01:00:53.280 are, as soon as you turn your back on them, then they like want to go in there and they want to be

01:00:56.340 in there. They want to be in the center. So a lot of it is just ignoring them and walking away from

01:01:00.600 them and just kind of looking, looking down on them. I think that will drive them more nuts than

01:01:04.720 anything. So last question for you. A lot of guys ask this. I've heard all kinds of takes here.

01:01:11.400 Best way for men to red pill their girlfriends and wives. Oh boy.

01:01:19.020 My husband definitely like red pilled me. And I'm, so I was trying to think of like what made him

01:01:27.980 successful at it. I'm not sure, but it just took time. And my husband's a very bold person and he

01:01:36.760 really sticks up for what he believes in. And that's something I admire about him. And I think

01:01:41.680 we have such a good relationship that I, I trust what he has to say. And I'm like, okay, you know,

01:01:47.480 I'll look into it. And it, it took me maybe several months, a year, but slowly he just, you know,

01:01:54.320 kept working at me and I was like, okay. And, you know, and it's not like I'm just conforming to my

01:02:00.680 husband. You know, I have my own personality and thoughts and I looked into it and I was like,

01:02:05.360 wow, I, this goes along with what I have been working at, you know, freeing yourself from

01:02:10.800 chemicals and terrible foods. And, you know, it's, it went along with what I was already set into motion.

01:02:17.680 Also, I know this is going to sound really harsh, but the sooner you can let your girlfriend know

01:02:24.840 that her lefty friends don't have her best interest at heart, the better. I mean, I would

01:02:30.580 never say like completely disown your lefty friends and you're not allowed to see them,

01:02:34.380 but a lot of them have the ear of their best friends. Their best friend has their ear. So just

01:02:41.140 kind of let them know that maybe some of their very liberal friends don't always have their best

01:02:46.540 interest at heart because they're all about, oh, you don't need ham. You can do better. You can do

01:02:51.180 better. And then also like Lon was saying before, women tend to listen to other women. So send her

01:02:57.860 one of Blonde's videos. That's a great way to start and just kind of give them little, little teeny

01:03:03.280 red pills. And that can give you a foundation for a discussion that you can have, which can give you

01:03:08.620 a stronger relationship. Definitely. That's exactly what I was going to say. Incremental approach,

01:03:12.700 which I think is, is key. If you're in a pre-existing relationship, if you're meeting somebody new,

01:03:17.400 um, I would just say to draw hard lines about like, you know, this is what I believe. If you

01:03:22.400 have a problem with any of these things, then it's not going to work out as a couple. But if you're in

01:03:26.280 a relationship with somebody, um, incremental approach, plant those seeds, plant those seeds.

01:03:30.920 And if they can't, if they can't be red-pilled and they give you, they, they

01:03:33.480 cut you back really hard. That's a sign that that's not going to be a relationship.

01:03:37.960 Yeah. It might not be the right relationship. Right. Right. Exactly. You have to find women

01:03:41.580 too, that are kind of on the fence that you can sway. Cause like I say, a lot of women are not

01:03:46.080 politically inclined really one way or the other. They're not really truly convinced. So I think

01:03:51.740 there can be a level of persuasion and getting women to see things. I know when I met Henrik,

01:03:57.060 you know, being the flighty Pisces at the time, I didn't think of things of like covert warfare and

01:04:03.280 propaganda and, and, you know, sly things that are swaying the public. I mean, cause that's

01:04:08.480 generally a masculine brain thing. So a man can kind of teach a woman how to think and analyze and

01:04:14.000 even through basic little stupid TV shows, like why are they making all these anti-white comments

01:04:18.020 or why this or why that? I found that like stupid TV shows have actually been, been really good.

01:04:22.960 But Laura, like you were saying too, there's a lot of girls that are on that truth seeking path.

01:04:28.400 You know, we come from the conspiratorial angle too. And I think the natural progression,

01:04:32.600 when you're truth seeking is that you come to these topics that we're talking about now. So

01:04:37.340 you kind of have to find where a woman is at and her level of truth and her politics. And then

01:04:41.800 like Blonde is saying incrementally. Yeah. And talking about gender dynamics. I know that like

01:04:48.220 in my personal relationships, once I realized that I needed to be the submissive one,

01:04:52.540 it was largely a relief. I'm like, oh great. I don't have to wear the pants anymore. This is a very

01:04:56.900 unnatural position for me to be in. And I think that if you're redpilling your girlfriend,

01:05:00.720 that, that she'll probably discover that some of the more masculine positions

01:05:05.460 that she was taking with her feminism are, are unnatural and she might fall into a more

01:05:11.020 comfortable role. And that's how she'll know you're right.

01:05:14.800 And also once you start seeing some of the stuff, you can't unsee it. So once you point out-

01:05:19.160 Oh yeah. Oh, that's so true. Yeah.

01:05:20.200 Once you start pointing out some of the anti-white rhetoric going out there and she actually goes

01:05:24.480 out into the world and start seeing it and she goes to the mall. Cause like the mall near me,

01:05:29.220 it's all like Middle Eastern people and Indians working in the booths. Like they don't hire white

01:05:34.180 people, their diversity quota. Once she actually starts seeing that stuff out in the real world,

01:05:39.660 she'll take you more seriously.

01:05:40.700 And the other thing is you have to be a man that she just can't resist.

01:05:45.680 Look well, be well, talk well, be successful. And then she'll just kind of fall, fall in line

01:05:52.240 because she wants to be with you. She wants to make you happy and please you. And she doesn't

01:05:57.360 want to let you go. But I think the power of a man to persuade a woman, guys shouldn't,

01:06:04.340 shouldn't poo poo that because they actually have a great power to persuade a woman. So that's great.

01:06:09.880 Well, as we close here, I think everyone needs to share their YouTubes and their Twitters. So

01:06:15.120 Laura, since you're new, we'll start with you.

01:06:18.480 Okay. You can find me on Twitter. I couldn't get like my exact name. So you'll have to find

01:06:24.380 at, at, okay. It's at TBB maker, the blonde butter maker. And you can also find me the blonde

01:06:33.020 butter maker, my Instagram. That's where I kind of started out. And my YouTube channel is also

01:06:39.300 the blonde butter maker. Oh, and I also have a WordPress that is the blonde butter maker.

01:06:44.540 Great. Perfect. And Brie, what about you?

01:06:47.880 You can find me on YouTube just under Brie Fauché, B-R-E-F-A-U-C-H-A-U-X. And you can find

01:06:54.320 me on Gab and Twitter at Brie underscore Fauché. And then there's also my blog where I really

01:06:59.660 just let her rip. And that's BrieFauché.wordpress.com.

01:07:02.860 And of course, Rebecca.

01:07:06.500 I am Blonde in the Belly of the Beast on YouTube. I am Liptard America on Twitter. And I just

01:07:12.420 started a Minds account. I swear one day I'm going to start posting on it. And you can email

01:07:16.480 me at Blonde in the Belly of the Beast at gmail.com.

01:07:20.320 I have a Minds as well that I just started.

01:07:22.060 This has been a lot of fun. I always say it's fun to talk to alt-right women because we can

01:07:26.740 talk about girly things like makeup. We can talk about cooking. But then we can also talk about

01:07:31.740 anti-white politics and Marxism. We are truly diverse and we actually are very diverse in

01:07:37.720 terms of our spirituality. We can talk to atheists and Christians and pagans. So we have all the

01:07:44.660 diversity that we need between us in the alt-right. And I think that we should hang on to that. I think

01:07:49.940 it's good. We shouldn't all be exactly the same because we contribute different things. And

01:07:54.120 it's wonderful having you ladies here and meeting you. And we're building great friendships. And

01:07:59.160 I'm looking forward to what the future holds. And I think 10 years from now, some of the things that

01:08:03.320 we talk about aren't going to be very extreme. They're actually going to be quite mainstream

01:08:06.900 because of the work that people like you are doing. So thank you very much, everyone, for

01:08:10.440 coming on the show today. Thank you.

01:08:12.720 Thanks for having us on.

01:08:13.440 Yes. Thanks for having us on. Yes.

01:08:19.940 Thanks for having us on. Yes.

01:08:49.940 Thanks for having us on. Yes.

01:09:13.320 Thank you.

01:09:14.740 Thank you.

01:09:17.120 Bye-bye.

01:09:17.540 Bye-bye.

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Radio 3Fourteen - April 10, 2017

Femininity in the Modern World

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