Radio 3Fourteen - Feminism as Psychological Warfare _ Harnessing Human Resources

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.

00:01:00.000 Feminism has been used as a tool for psychological warfare to divide and to conquer. 1.00

00:01:05.880 Welcome back, Lisa.

00:01:06.940 How have you been?

00:01:08.180 I've been well, Anna.

00:01:08.940 Thank you for inviting me.

00:01:10.460 And I should say also for your persistence and for your encouragement, because that was

00:01:16.700 the inspiration behind my gathering the courage to come back on the show and put myself out

00:01:23.200 there.

00:01:23.760 I'm glad to hear it.

00:01:24.620 Well, this is funny because Henrik just did an interview with Lennon Honor on the subject

00:01:28.180 of the male-female union, and both his and this interview kind of synced up unintentionally.

00:01:33.060 So see, that's what happens in the right relationship.

00:01:35.540 Absolutely.

00:01:36.200 That's like the history series that we're doing.

00:01:40.000 We recently released an episode on nonviolent communication and the trivium, and it was supposed

00:01:47.080 to be a couple of weeks early released, but we had so much going on that it didn't end

00:01:52.240 up going as planned as these things go.

00:01:55.020 And it just so happened that the week that we released it, Laura Lynn, the Unplugged Mom

00:02:02.740 podcast, she also released an episode on the very same subject, on nonviolent communication

00:02:08.020 and the trivium.

00:02:09.860 So it was just a little synchronicity.

00:02:11.800 And the universe just has a way of, you know, letting things work out if you can be like water

00:02:17.560 and, as they say, just go with the flow.

00:02:20.340 That's right.

00:02:20.700 Hey, by the way, I watched the premiere of the film State of Mind, The Psychology of Control

00:02:25.160 and Alex Jones, and you did a super job on the voiceover.

00:02:28.340 Well, thank you.

00:02:29.540 I appreciate that.

00:02:31.400 It was, as you know, sort of a last minute decision for me to do the narration.

00:02:38.480 It was just a situation where I had to, how do you say, step up to the plate and just do

00:02:44.080 what had to be done to get the film finished.

00:02:46.360 So I'm really proud of the end result.

00:02:50.500 And Deborah Stevens, who did the sound mastering, did just really a remarkable job.

00:02:57.060 It doesn't even really sound like me when I listen to it, but it sounds terrific.

00:03:01.740 It sounds like me.

00:03:03.140 So I think, too, it's excellent that Alex helped promote the film.

00:03:07.080 I could tell Alex really enjoyed meeting Richard.

00:03:09.320 So that's pretty good.

00:03:11.480 I'm glad to hear that.

00:03:12.200 It was really incredible to be there in the studios and the support.

00:03:19.240 And really, I mean, without that kind of a venue and a platform and the audience that

00:03:24.560 Alex has, I don't know where the film would be.

00:03:27.880 But right now, it's about the free version that's online has over 230,000 views.

00:03:34.220 So it looks like it could go viral.

00:03:36.180 And, you know, there's a lot of people out there that this information is relevant to.

00:03:42.460 And I think that it's really just it's wonderful.

00:03:48.280 And we are grateful that he provided that platform.

00:03:52.320 I think it's interesting, too, because some similar topics come up in that film that we

00:03:56.880 also touch upon in our next TV show.

00:03:58.620 But ours is a little different.

00:04:00.220 But it seems like a handful of elite freaks, I could say, keep coming up, you know, the

00:04:05.540 guys who planted the seeds of eugenics movement, psychology, modern science.

00:04:10.020 And if you look at photos of them, I mean, wow, I get chills from the soullessness in their

00:04:13.720 eyes.

00:04:14.080 You know what I mean?

00:04:15.160 It's really just history repeating.

00:04:16.860 It's all about social control.

00:04:19.180 And you see the strategies playing out over and over again, even in the conversation that

00:04:23.580 you and I are about to have today on the subject of feminism. 1.00

00:04:26.340 You see this divide and conquer strategy playing out.

00:04:30.740 And there is a small group of people that will plunder.

00:04:36.660 Their agenda is to plunder your production efficiently and effectively extracting your wealth.

00:04:42.960 So they really want to have a population of human resources.

00:04:48.500 And, you know, the feminist movement is part of that social engineering. 1.00

00:04:53.180 It's just one small, small part.

00:04:55.480 And I am by no means an expert.

00:04:58.220 I'm more interested in learning the history so that, you know, so that at some point,

00:05:03.200 you know, through possibly you and I sharing information, the work that we're all doing,

00:05:07.360 this can be something that's history.

00:05:11.000 And you're right.

00:05:11.640 The feminist movement is actually very politically motivated. 0.94

00:05:16.360 It's psychological warfare like you're going to talk about.

00:05:19.100 So I think a good place to begin is to define what feminism is. 1.00

00:05:22.900 Well, there's a number of definitions out there.

00:05:27.140 I went to Oxford, the Oxford English Dictionary, and they have there that feminism is the advocacy 0.96

00:05:35.100 of women's rights on the ground of equality of the sexes.

00:05:38.320 And it reads the issue of rights for women first became prominent during the French and American

00:05:44.320 revolutions in the late 18th century.

00:05:47.780 In Britain, it was not until the emergence of the suffragette movement in the late 19th century that there was 0.63

00:05:52.800 significant political change.

00:05:55.160 A, quote, second wave of feminism arose in the 1960s with an emphasis on unity and sisterhood. 0.99

00:06:02.140 Seminal figures included Betty Friedan and Germaine Greer.

00:06:06.520 I'm not actually familiar with either of those two individuals.

00:06:10.320 And then if you look it up on, you know, Webster or Wiki, it's just essentially the theory of the

00:06:15.820 political, economic and social equality of the sexes and the organized activity on behalf of

00:06:21.580 women's rights and interests. 0.96

00:06:24.180 You know, that's those are a couple of definitions.

00:06:26.740 By the way, Betty Friedan and Germaine Greer.

00:06:29.760 Betty Friedan was born.

00:06:32.240 Her last name's Goldstein.

00:06:33.260 She's actually Jewish.

00:06:34.600 And Betty and Germaine are both communists.

00:06:40.300 That's interesting.

00:06:41.820 Yeah.

00:06:42.140 Greer actually identified herself as an anarchist communist, which pisses me off because the

00:06:46.600 definition and philosophy of anarchy means society without state.

00:06:50.100 And without state, you don't have these issues that block people from doing what they want

00:06:53.500 to do.

00:06:53.860 Problem solved.

00:06:54.580 Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that they were communists.

00:06:58.760 And there's a book that that I wanted to discuss with you called, let's see, The Mighty

00:07:04.540 Wurlitzer, How the CIA Played America.

00:07:07.120 And it's written by Hugh Wilford, and it's published by Harvard University Press.

00:07:14.460 And in the chapter entitled, The Truth Shall Make You Free, on page 154, they discuss this

00:07:24.780 propaganda campaign that is being propagated by the women's movement funded through the CIA.

00:07:35.840 And we can get into the details of that later.

00:07:38.400 It reads,

00:07:39.360 The first of the committee's regular monthly newsletters, issued in April 1953, countered

00:07:45.800 communist exploitation of motherhood for propaganda purposes by accusing the Soviet government of

00:07:53.640 forcing women out to work so that it could exert, quote, absolute control over the child 1.00

00:07:59.820 with the opportunity to mold him into the pattern of well-disciplined little robots.

00:08:05.940 The notion that communist totalitarianism had invaded even that most private area of everyday

00:08:12.460 life, the home, became a perennial theme of Cold War Western propaganda.

00:08:18.840 It goes on, but it's just interesting because that's the way things were being framed out during

00:08:24.820 this time period in the 50s.

00:08:30.340 Oh, yeah.

00:08:31.480 And I'm sure, and my point being, I'm sure that Betty Friedan and Jermaine Greer, you know,

00:08:37.380 would disagree.

00:08:38.820 Yeah.

00:08:40.760 Yeah, you mentioned Gloria Steinem as well.

00:08:44.340 And she's another communist, Jewish communist. 0.83

00:08:47.260 So, the question becomes, how does psychological warfare come into play in the feminist movement? 1.00

00:08:53.900 Because that's what we're talking about.

00:08:55.280 That's what this book is providing the factual account of the mighty Wurlitzer, how the CIA

00:09:04.180 played America.

00:09:05.200 And for anyone who's not familiar, a Wurlitzer is an organ.

00:09:07.740 So, he's saying, Hugh Wilford is saying, they're playing us like an organ, like an instrument.

00:09:16.240 And these organizations and someone like Gloria Steinem, I believe they get into this with

00:09:25.020 really noble intentions and they just become subject to psychological warfare.

00:09:31.600 Then, unwittingly, some and some wittingly are participating in it.

00:09:39.020 And Gloria Steinem specifically is covered in Chapter 6, the CIA on-campus students.

00:09:46.420 And if we go to page 141 through 143, we can read all about her recruitment by Clive S.

00:09:54.240 Gray, who was a former National Student Association, or NSA for short, president.

00:09:59.960 And he became a CIA agent.

00:10:04.180 Additionally, she was approached by Harry Lunn, who was also an NSA former president and a CIA agent.

00:10:12.740 She goes into active duty.

00:10:14.740 You can read all about it on page 142 through 147.

00:10:19.940 And it's just, it's really a fascinating account.

00:10:23.040 And you wonder, as you're reading through this, did she know, did she have any intimation?

00:10:28.420 And the answer, I don't think, is clear.

00:10:32.880 But she was director of the Independent Service for Information, or the ISI.

00:10:39.880 And if you read about the events that went on when she was organizing the Vienna World Festival

00:10:45.920 of Youth and Students, and I believe this is in the 1950s.

00:10:49.820 I'd have to reference the book for the exact date.

00:10:52.140 You read about her engagement with C.D. Jackson, who at the time is, it's, in times of war,

00:11:01.400 he's psychological warfare.

00:11:03.000 And during this time, we're not at war.

00:11:05.280 He is the head of Time Life.

00:11:07.580 And if you just give me a minute, I'll actually go to the page, because there's a really great quote.

00:11:10.960 A key contact for Steinem in her ISI publicity work was the former Cywar Supremo, Time Inc. executive,

00:11:20.260 C.D. Jackson, who had secretly volunteered to coordinate a massive anti-festival propaganda campaign

00:11:26.880 on the CIA's behalf, involving Radio Free Europe, Time reporters, and Austrian cabinet ministers.

00:11:34.260 The two first met in late January at Jackson's Rockefeller Center office, but only after Steinem

00:11:41.760 had been made to wait several hours.

00:11:44.340 She goes on to say, they're quoting her here, he was blustery, a name dropper, always talking

00:11:49.520 about how he wrote speeches for Eisenhower.

00:11:53.360 It goes on, let's see, the Vienna Youth Festival itself is an extremely important event in the

00:12:00.240 great game, C.D. Jackson wrote, the network's president, Frank Stanton, quoting Rudyard Kipling's

00:12:07.400 Kim, quote, this is the first time commies have held one of these shindigs on our side of the

00:12:13.600 Iron Curtain, end quote.

00:12:16.380 Stanton then saw Steinem in his office and assured Jackson that CBS would endeavor to broadcast

00:12:22.700 a half-hour documentary.

00:12:25.100 Quote, Gloria Steinem asked me to help out on this, and Frank Stanton came

00:12:30.220 through handsomely.

00:12:31.740 Jackson self-congratulatingly reported to Cord Meyer of the CIA.

00:12:38.220 So that gets into who is Cord Meyer.

00:12:47.520 And Cord Meyer, well, I'll ask you, do you know about Cord Meyer?

00:12:54.380 No, I don't.

00:12:55.520 Okay.

00:12:56.620 So when you look into Cord Meyer, his father is Eugene Meyer.

00:13:01.840 Eugene Meyer happens to have been the owner of the Washington Post.

00:13:07.060 He also, if memory recalls, served as Federal Reserve Chairman.

00:13:13.480 He was the first president of the World Bank.

00:13:16.660 And I believe he was also the owner of Honeywell Security.

00:13:23.340 So those are his interests.

00:13:26.060 That's why he owns the Washington Post.

00:13:29.220 His interests aren't investigative journalism.

00:13:33.360 His interests are protecting the empire.

00:13:36.340 In other words, social control of human resources.

00:13:43.120 So it's an interesting connection.

00:13:45.780 And now you see how, well, I'll let you just respond because I don't know where I was going with that.

00:13:52.180 Well, I think also we should go back even farther.

00:13:55.940 Like, let's look into when, I don't know if you've looked into this,

00:13:58.680 when the women's lib movement actually began.

00:14:01.300 What are the roots?

00:14:02.920 Where are they coming from?

00:14:03.780 And how has it evolved over the past century?

00:14:06.980 What has your research shown?

00:14:09.700 I mean, how far back do you want to go?

00:14:12.280 Well, my research has shown basically French revolutions.

00:14:15.320 You can trace a lot to the French all the time.

00:14:18.560 But then also Rockefeller helped fund the women's lib studies in America.

00:14:24.420 So that really got going here.

00:14:26.380 And then comes the birth control.

00:14:28.140 Then comes Margaret Sanger. 0.90

00:14:29.140 Then comes all these writers, right?

00:14:31.300 Right.

00:14:32.240 I guess what we're trying to get out of here, too,

00:14:33.900 is what were these women trying to accomplish to begin with? 1.00

00:14:37.180 What really spearheaded this movement?

00:14:39.920 Well, I think their intentions, as I said before, were noble.

00:14:43.680 They were looking for a voice.

00:14:47.120 They wanted to be represented.

00:14:48.720 Maybe you could say a seat at the table.

00:14:50.700 Equality, liberty, progress.

00:14:52.400 They would probably have said more of a balance of power, more influence.

00:14:56.500 And I think, from my perspective, they're trying to create a better world.

00:15:01.720 And then somewhere along the line, this became, as we call, identity politics.

00:15:07.200 So women are letting themselves be defined according to what someone else is defining feminism is. 1.00

00:15:13.620 Like you say, they're writing the script for you.

00:15:15.720 Right.

00:15:17.320 At some point, equality was redefined to mean go out and get a job and leave your home and leave raising your children and your family up to the state, to the government.

00:15:30.580 Equality is holding an equal job to a man. 0.98

00:15:34.800 And it's interesting because I think at the beginning of the conversation, I mentioned social engineering.

00:15:41.140 And the reason that you see this agenda being played out through the feminist movement is through the destruction of the family. 1.00

00:15:51.160 And it's really just business.

00:15:52.520 It's just about making money off of human resources.

00:15:55.340 Because when you can convince a woman that motherhood is degraded down to a form of slavery instead of the foundation of the family, the pillar of the family, and you just take away the sacredness, then you convince them to go out and get jobs and enter the workforce. 0.75

00:16:16.880 And it's really interesting because at some point, let's see, I have an article here that I printed off earlier about prohibition and the income tax and how these organizations had been formed by women all over the country.

00:16:38.640 And they were interested in alcohol prohibition, but at the time, prior to 1913, the bulk of the government's revenue was coming from, about a third of it was coming from the annual revenue through liquor taxes.

00:16:57.700 So this was something that was not going to happen, just purely because it was business.

00:17:05.300 And then through the passage of, you know, the laws that made income tax come into effect, through that and through using these women's organizations, these prohibition organizations, they were able to add income taxes. 0.71

00:17:24.700 So now, not only do you have everyone paying income taxes, but additionally, when you can convince these women to leave home and go out and get a job, now you're adding an additional income tax form per household. 0.93

00:17:41.620 So it's really, I think, just about generating revenue.

00:17:45.500 And getting their children, of course.

00:17:47.100 Right. And it's hard to say at what point it was undermined or usurped because I think that it's just been happening all along.

00:17:56.140 It's just history repeating because, you know, the women who were involved in prohibition never really saw through to the agenda of, you know, the income tax. 0.77

00:18:10.600 They didn't understand that. And so, you know, they're unwitting to it.

00:18:15.020 And then you have someone like Edward Bernays who wants to, wants to get women smoking because, you know, tobacco is...

00:18:24.500 Yeah, what did he call them? Freedom torches?

00:18:27.660 Torches of liberty or torches of freedom.

00:18:30.200 More like cancer sticks.

00:18:31.320 Right. And how does he create this meme by having New York socialites during some big event, some parade, go down the street and, you know, make a big deal out of taking out their cigarette cases and lighting up in the middle of the street.

00:18:48.220 And there's a big torches of liberty or torches of freedom marketing campaign and media campaign and they're writing about it on the newspapers.

00:18:56.480 And the next thing you know, it's in vogue now. And not only that, but it is a sign of freedom.

00:19:02.900 And so now your freedom and your liberty has been degraded down to being able to light up a cigarette.

00:19:08.760 That's right.

00:19:09.220 Instead of, you know, some other agenda, let's say having that energy redirected towards stopping the child and women prostitution and slavery, 0.96

00:19:24.560 that that business, that black market, like, let's not redirect all of our energy towards these other things that are going on.

00:19:30.960 Let's just light up a torch of liberty and, you know, all is well in the world.

00:19:34.640 I think, too, they really played on, let's face it, I mean, there's a lot of unhealthy female-male relationships. 1.00

00:19:41.540 The balance is completely off in most people's relationships.

00:19:44.820 There's a lot of, as Lenin Honor has talked about, there's a lot of TV propaganda that keeps enforcing this, that keeps creating that war going.

00:19:52.800 So then they get to these women by pushing motherhood as misery and torture, and so is marriage. 0.83

00:19:59.500 And then they do shows like Desperate Housewives and Sex and the City, which is written by gay men and actually Candace Bushnell, who's also a socialist.

00:20:09.360 So then you're putting these ideas out there.

00:20:11.460 I mean, Edward Bernays, he had this to say about the video or motion pictures in his book, Propaganda.

00:20:16.400 He said, the American motion picture is the greatest unconscious carrier of propaganda in the world today.

00:20:22.200 It is a great distributor for ideas and opinions.

00:20:25.260 So they are putting that out there on purpose, this idea.

00:20:28.880 Marriage, torture, motherhood, misery. 0.90

00:20:30.840 Absolutely, the sexualization of young girls and children within the mainstream mass media, within those productions, within Hollywood films and television shows, and within the music industry.

00:20:42.720 Look at the role models that are out there.

00:20:44.740 And you talk about adult relationships.

00:20:47.840 This is the relationships that you're seeing played out on the television and in Hollywood films.

00:20:53.040 They're extended adolescents.

00:20:54.280 Those are children.

00:20:55.020 They're like little children who haven't yet figured out what life is all about.

00:20:59.700 And so what you see is competition.

00:21:01.760 You don't see cooperation.

00:21:03.940 You don't see two people coming together and making each other stronger.

00:21:07.360 Instead, there's all of this, all these games being played and people being hurt.

00:21:12.780 And it's the suppression of natural and loving and healthy relationships.

00:21:18.760 And why?

00:21:19.360 Because that's important to control people.

00:21:21.320 Because if, you know, you're distracted by the drama of your relationship and the drama of, you know, the children's, what do they see over and over on televisions?

00:21:32.800 Kids can't relate to parents.

00:21:34.000 Parents can't relate to kids.

00:21:35.060 This is a theme that's played out.

00:21:37.240 And so now children think, well, I can't learn anything from my parents.

00:21:41.780 They don't know anything.

00:21:42.920 And I can't learn anything from my grandparents.

00:21:45.180 And so now this is also part of the destruction of the family.

00:21:48.000 And you see the relationships that used to be these strong bonds traditionally.

00:21:53.000 And you still see this within families that have managed to hold it together despite the mass media entrainment.

00:22:01.120 Oh, yeah.

00:22:01.980 I think, too, the male-female relationship, it's, well, it's fundamental to our survival.

00:22:06.800 And there are so many sinister programs going to create a war, as we've just said.

00:22:10.820 But there's nothing more powerful to me than a man and a woman who are truly united and each other's counterpart.

00:22:17.260 There is a spiritual power in that and a physical power in that.

00:22:20.760 And that is why I think they're really trying to get in there and destroy what is feminine, what is masculine.

00:22:26.160 I think that is another reason why they're even using chemicals that are hormone disruptors.

00:22:31.280 Literally making people gay, making men feminine and women masculine. 0.82

00:22:35.100 And they want to upset this balance because they know that it is its power.

00:22:40.320 And that reminds me of that quote that I sent you from the article.

00:22:45.120 I believe it was a Vigilant Citizen article.

00:22:47.280 It was from his article on Eyes Wide Shut.

00:22:50.780 He writes, quote,

00:22:53.040 Also, more importantly, it is about the group that rules this modern world.

00:23:16.220 A secret elite that channels this struggle between the male and female principles in a specific and esoteric matter.

00:23:25.260 And then he goes on to say the movie, however, does not spell this out.

00:23:28.920 Like Paul Graydard, it's communicated, you know, you have to read between the lines.

00:23:33.980 But that's what you just reminded me of.

00:23:36.140 Yeah, well, Stalin also saw the power of cinema in Hollywood.

00:23:38.760 I mean, he infiltrated with his people.

00:23:40.240 I've been trying to do a program about it.

00:23:42.200 There's very few people speaking out about it.

00:23:43.740 But there there are some books and, you know, it's a typical communist tactic also to use to use humor as a technique to distribute propaganda.

00:23:53.120 I mean, the Soviets did it all the time.

00:23:55.140 They joked about things and then children grow up thinking, oh, you're supposed to laugh at things like that.

00:23:59.440 And so they learn what is socially acceptable and then they conform to it because you aren't cool unless you can laugh at whatever Jay Leno said.

00:24:06.120 And you see that happening right now, big time against the war against the family unit.

00:24:10.840 Like, oh, that's a social construct.

00:24:12.980 Oh, you're so yesterday, you know.

00:24:15.620 Right, right.

00:24:16.400 You have to have two moms to be cool now. 0.97

00:24:19.280 Well, you see this artificially created image of ideal beauty and the ideal female and in all of its various forms.

00:24:31.140 And you were talking about books, one book that I have not read through, but Kevin Cole, who's a researcher for Tragedy and Hope, he showed me this book, Globalizing Ideal Beauty by Denise Sutton.

00:24:43.840 And I only read through a few chapters of it, but she she shows you how this artificial image was created via mass marketing and mass media, public relations and just Hollywood propaganda campaigns.

00:25:01.720 And there's another book that's a little bit older by Ed Epstein called The Rise and Fall of Diamonds.

00:25:09.780 And I mentioned this book because it substantiates some of the things that I read in Denise Sutton's Globalizing Ideal Beauty.

00:25:17.940 She has this chapter on the J. Walter Thompson Company, which was one of the, and still may be, one of the largest PR and marketing firms in the world.

00:25:30.620 And they had the De Beers campaign.

00:25:33.260 And they're the ones that created the Diamonds Are Forever campaign.

00:25:38.760 So, Diamonds were not a girl's best friend. 0.73

00:25:42.660 Diamonds were not the automatic, you know, engagement symbol of, you know, fidelity and whatever else people associate it with.

00:25:53.960 It had nothing to do with that.

00:25:56.140 That is, well, if we want to get into the history, that is the legacy of Cecil Rhodes.

00:26:01.040 And there's recently a couple of episodes of our history series that Rich recorded with Kevin Cole and Jan Irvin of Gnostic Media.

00:26:13.400 Specifically, the last will and testament of Cecil Rhodes in the Anglo-American establishment, which we just released.

00:26:18.700 And then there's another that has to do with the conversation that you and I have been having.

00:26:22.900 That is the origins of the intelligence community.

00:26:25.580 And you see how through Hollywood films and through media publication, advertising and media publications, and just a constant bombardment of this meme, this message.

00:26:43.460 Now, today, all these years later, this is the automatic thing that guys do.

00:26:50.060 There are all these rules about it, and everyone knows about it, right?

00:26:55.020 Mm-hmm.

00:26:56.840 We talk about that in State of Mind, the psychology of control also.

00:27:01.580 There's a little section that covers that.

00:27:03.500 But I was fascinated to learn that because I just thought that that was a tradition. 0.98

00:27:08.640 And most of the time, it's probably dirty old male pigs that are setting this image of beauty worldwide. 0.98

00:27:16.580 You're not hot unless you're this and that. 0.98

00:27:18.200 So what do they have to gain by reinforcing this image of beauty and making women self-conscious? 0.84

00:27:25.020 And this unattainable ideal beauty leaves, I think, all of us.

00:27:32.080 I mean, I don't want to speak for all women, but many of the women I know, I think, can relate to this.

00:27:37.880 It leaves us perpetually reaching for something that we really can't attain.

00:27:43.800 And they want to define ideal beauty for us so that we can't define it for ourselves.

00:27:53.860 Why?

00:27:54.460 Because they want to create insecurity and self-loathing, and they want to have women trying to mold themselves into this ideal beauty that they're being sold. 0.90

00:28:09.060 And I think that it comes down to, again, control.

00:28:15.000 The control of the individual.

00:28:17.940 They want to control your mind, your body, your spirit, so that you can be harnessed and utilized as a human resource in their agenda. 0.73

00:28:26.960 If they have you distracted again by this, you know, these images in the magazines and what you're seeing on television and in these films and always have you reaching for something else.

00:28:40.620 If you're a brunette, you want to be blonde. 1.00

00:28:42.660 If you're blonde, you want to be a brunette. 1.00

00:28:44.040 No matter what it is, the grass is greener.

00:28:46.020 And, you know, at this point, they have women mutilating themselves. 1.00

00:28:51.060 I mean, literally, I read a few months back about this new plastic surgery that involves the surgeon cutting off the little toe so that women's feet are more slender and fit.

00:29:06.080 And they fit into prettier shoes.

00:29:08.700 They did that in Japan, the geishas. 0.99

00:29:11.100 They made them wear these really tiny shoes.

00:29:12.980 They would bind.

00:29:13.760 It was called foot binding, I believe.

00:29:16.580 Oh.

00:29:17.420 Yeah.

00:29:17.840 So it's just, it's control.

00:29:21.520 Well, and then the other thing is they want to get you in that consumer cycle. 0.98

00:29:25.020 So then you buy all the crap you don't need. 0.98

00:29:27.040 You know, all the poison, basically. 1.00

00:29:29.200 Makeup, synthetic fabrics, all these toxins.

00:29:31.760 And then you're going to get cancer.

00:29:32.940 Then you're going to need a mastectomy. 1.00

00:29:34.200 Then you're going to need implants.

00:29:35.720 So it puts you on a cycle so they can milk some money out of you while you're dying, basically.

00:29:41.460 Yeah.

00:29:42.660 They get us to deprive ourselves of our own uniqueness and our individuality and our inner beauty.

00:29:49.500 And they subvert our potential and our creative energy.

00:29:55.100 They redirect it into nonsense and competitiveness and irrationality.

00:30:01.820 And they get us in these loops of destructive and not very constructive agendas.

00:30:09.660 And people fall for it.

00:30:11.540 I've heard people put out this idea before, but is there some kind of ancient archetype,

00:30:16.260 some ideal woman and man that maybe these elite know about?

00:30:20.600 They know that it works.

00:30:21.520 And so they put that out there.

00:30:22.760 I really don't know.

00:30:25.840 Like maybe Lilith was a feminist, you know? 1.00

00:30:29.880 I mean, it's just what is beautiful, you know?

00:30:33.140 I mean, what is beautiful?

00:30:34.640 Because in reality, each individual, each of us is uniquely beautiful.

00:30:39.320 And we're all uniquely loved by other individuals in our life.

00:30:43.160 And at the end of the day, what matters isn't, you know, how much you weigh or what you look

00:30:49.100 like or what color your hair is.

00:30:50.600 It's the people in your life.

00:30:52.180 It's the relationships you have.

00:30:54.540 I mean, that's it.

00:30:56.780 That's what it's all about.

00:30:58.640 It's amazing, though, that women fall for it. 1.00

00:31:00.700 So do guys.

00:31:01.800 It works.

00:31:02.980 It's a low-level consciousness state of mind.

00:31:05.780 It does work.

00:31:06.960 And it's interesting because, you know, some of the things that we've gone off on a few

00:31:13.120 different tangents and some of the things we've talked about, I mean, I'm trying to imagine

00:31:17.460 myself just listening to this conversation thinking, well, I don't know.

00:31:20.480 That sounds a little bit like, you know, conspiracy or, you know, some conspiracy theories or what

00:31:25.480 have you.

00:31:26.660 But, you know, G. Edward Griffin said a couple of weeks ago when we interviewed him for our

00:31:33.520 history series, I think he put it really well.

00:31:36.000 He said, conspiracies are the engine of history.

00:31:39.420 And, you know, that is news to some people.

00:31:44.220 I don't know why, but it is.

00:31:46.160 And so, you know, I would urge them to read some history books and, you know, to check out some of, you know, to check out State of Mind, for instance, because it's all there.

00:31:59.780 This book that I have, the one that I reread this morning, a couple of chapters, The Mighty

00:32:05.320 Wurlitzer, How the CIA Played America, I think this should be a must read for everyone.

00:32:11.380 There's some other books that Rich put out on the desk for me this morning that I haven't

00:32:16.120 read yet that are in my, they're in my list.

00:32:19.760 First, let's see, Compromised Campus, which was published by Oxford, and let's see, Universities

00:32:30.700 and Empire, Money and Politics in the Social Sciences During the Cold War, which it says is edited by

00:32:39.700 Christopher Simpson.

00:32:41.600 And one other is Imperial Brain Trust, the Council on Foreign Relations and United States Foreign

00:32:48.440 Policy.

00:32:49.760 And the reason that I suggest these books, you and I haven't really talked about a lot of the

00:32:55.360 connections that I made this morning in reviewing Wilford's book, but as I'm reviewing his book,

00:33:02.560 which is, again, published by Harvard, I'm trying to find sources, additional sources, other than what

00:33:09.180 he's providing.

00:33:10.360 And these are the books that came up in Rich's Brain Model.

00:33:14.180 So there's, there are all these connections that we haven't even touched on.

00:33:17.660 We got into a little bit Gloria Steinem, but that's really just the tip of the iceberg.

00:33:23.460 That's actually in the chapter before how the CIA influenced feminism. 0.66

00:33:28.920 That's in the chapter on students and the CIA on campus.

00:33:33.600 So it's, it's really interesting.

00:33:35.400 And I would suggest that people try and either find these books online or get yourself a copy.

00:33:42.320 I think they're really affordable as used books.

00:33:45.080 We got all of our copies used.

00:33:47.400 Well, you bring up a good point to the campuses.

00:33:49.580 It always begins in the school.

00:33:53.040 Always.

00:33:54.380 Right.

00:33:55.160 Right.

00:33:55.520 Virginia Woolf, who everyone has to study in school.

00:33:59.480 She's another communist feminism, by the way. 1.00

00:34:02.960 Her stories always mock the individual pursuit of freedom.

00:34:06.180 Like, oh, it's about the collective, not the individual.

00:34:11.340 And really, it's about individuals coming together.

00:34:14.860 It's about people who are responsible for themselves, who are independent thinkers, who

00:34:19.880 have intellectual self-defense coming together volitionally and saying, you know, we have common

00:34:25.220 ground.

00:34:25.780 We recognize that.

00:34:26.780 We have common needs as human beings.

00:34:28.420 And in order to get our needs met, right now, our needs are not being met.

00:34:32.940 And in order to do so, in order to effectively resist, you know, we need to come together and

00:34:39.120 organize, but not as collectivists.

00:34:41.900 Yeah.

00:34:42.200 As individuals.

00:34:43.200 Exactly.

00:34:45.160 There's a difference, people.

00:34:48.080 There is a difference.

00:34:49.120 And you mentioned, you mentioned education and the school.

00:34:53.240 And I would just mention the ultimate history lesson, a weekend with John Taylor Gatto, which

00:35:00.660 is available online for free.

00:35:02.980 And it gives a lot of additional context on the underground history, the history that we're

00:35:08.640 not being taught in school of American education, how it was modeled off of the Prussian system

00:35:14.720 for social control and to instill essentially absolute fealty to authority in children while

00:35:20.740 they're young and they lack intellectual self-defense in order to make them into human resources to

00:35:27.460 serve this elite ruling class.

00:35:29.300 This is, you know, nothing new.

00:35:32.140 John discovered it.

00:35:33.540 And in his book, The Underground History of American Education, a lot are a lot of the

00:35:38.260 resources.

00:35:39.260 And you could also read a book like Tragedy and Hope, a history of the world in our time

00:35:43.660 written by Georgetown professor Carol Quigley.

00:35:46.440 And, you know, it's just, it's all there.

00:35:49.940 It's all there.

00:35:50.640 If you take the time and, you know, maybe redirect an hour or so a week and just check some of

00:35:57.240 these things out, read a few pages, you know, in the evening before you go to bed, just find

00:36:02.620 the time.

00:36:04.340 I think another area we should get into, I wanted to just define this to bring it out

00:36:08.500 for a second because I said Marxist feminism.

00:36:10.320 So the definition is, is a subtype of feminist theory, which focuses on the social institutions 0.98

00:36:16.120 of private property and capitalism to explain and criticize gender inequality and oppression.

00:36:22.460 Can you believe that?

00:36:23.300 These people just blame capitalism for everything.

00:36:27.100 It just cracks me up.

00:36:28.920 And then you go somewhere like communist Sweden and it's not any better.

00:36:33.960 You know, sorry, I just want to get this in here real quick.

00:36:35.940 The women, they're raised to basically hate men. 1.00

00:36:40.140 They treat them like crap. 1.00

00:36:41.600 The men are emasculated. 1.00

00:36:43.200 The women are not soft anymore. 1.00

00:36:45.380 They're not classy anymore.

00:36:46.900 They get mad when a guy opens a door for them.

00:36:49.180 It's a whole other kind of slavery, a mental slavery.

00:36:53.840 And again, it's that divide and conquer agenda.

00:36:56.520 And in terms of, you know, blaming capitalism or this or that, it's they just want us all

00:37:02.420 whacking at the branches and never getting to the root cause, never understanding the

00:37:07.920 root cause, because if you don't understand the root cause of the problem, then you aren't

00:37:11.060 going to be able to solve it.

00:37:12.560 You're not going to resolve anything for yourself.

00:37:14.220 And you're going to continue to have your energy redirected into someone else's agenda

00:37:19.660 into instead of into an agenda that benefits you and your family.

00:37:24.380 And like you said, again, it's like all of these identity politics movements are trying

00:37:30.880 to get you corralled up into a specific form of collectivism.

00:37:34.720 And then you're easy.

00:37:35.580 Then they got you.

00:37:36.540 It's easy.

00:37:37.680 Right.

00:37:38.340 It's easy to control people who are under the influence of illusions, under false impressions

00:37:47.380 that have blind spots.

00:37:49.240 We all have that.

00:37:50.260 We all have blind spots.

00:37:51.320 We all have beliefs that still remain unchecked.

00:37:53.460 I come across some every day.

00:37:55.380 But, you know, the answer to that is learning.

00:37:58.480 That's the solution.

00:37:59.620 It's learning and then sharing what you've learned.

00:38:03.060 And then you just sort of repeat that process.

00:38:04.700 I mean, and it's a really simple process.

00:38:07.440 We all do it naturally, maybe just not consistently and deliberately.

00:38:11.660 But we can practice.

00:38:12.940 I practice every day.

00:38:14.680 And it's really simple.

00:38:15.980 It's just observation, identification, organization, removal of some contradictions and some fallacies.

00:38:22.640 And then that leads to an understanding.

00:38:24.540 And then you communicate in a meaningful way, in a compassionate way with other human beings

00:38:29.880 so that you can validate what you've come to know and understand.

00:38:33.260 And then you can all make more informed decisions and take more informed actions and not have

00:38:38.960 any regrets, but have some happiness and serenity.

00:38:42.180 And I think everyone could use a little bit more of that.

00:38:44.360 I know I could.

00:38:45.140 So it's about being an individual, having self-responsibility, and being the change that we want to see

00:38:54.840 because that's the only way, again, that we're going to effectively resist tyranny

00:38:59.240 is for enough people to come together and recognize our common ground, relate to one another,

00:39:05.560 start communicating and organizing volitionally.

00:39:09.060 Because we can, we have the ability to create a better world.

00:39:12.420 That's right.

00:39:12.720 It's just that our imagination has been turned off for the most part.

00:39:16.200 Sure has.

00:39:16.560 It snuffed out.

00:39:18.960 Well, me as a woman, when I look at all these things and I zoom way out, I see that one of 0.88

00:39:25.200 the obstacles for the control system is men that still have balls, men that fight, men that say no. 0.92

00:39:32.280 So there is a war against the men and they want to use the women to emasculate them. 1.00

00:39:38.460 Well, that's the relation.

00:39:40.160 Those are the relationships that you see.

00:39:42.340 Those are the themes you see being played out every night on television.

00:39:45.720 And not only that, but I remember not too long ago, Alex Jones came on the radio one day and he was

00:39:52.760 just furious because he had been out the evening before and he was at some restaurant where he and

00:39:59.980 his family were going to have a meal and he walked in and the entire bar was full of men and this

00:40:06.100 football game was on.

00:40:07.200 And they were just all, they had so much energy and there was so much passion in that room and he was

00:40:13.540 like, wow, I wish I could channel that energy and get these guys for one hour a week that interested

00:40:20.520 and excited in the world around them and figuring out how to solve the problems that we're, that we're all

00:40:29.080 facing, that we're all facing because things are not getting better with the economy.

00:40:33.560 Our food is not getting healthier.

00:40:36.180 GMOs are in 70%.

00:40:38.640 And that's what they're saying of the food in our grocery stores.

00:40:43.320 I don't even know anymore if it's just processed foods.

00:40:45.540 I think it's fruit and vegetables too.

00:40:47.640 It's still unclear because we don't have labeling.

00:40:50.560 And how in the world can people not be irate over the fact that the food in their grocery store

00:40:58.760 is not labeled, whether or not it's genetically modified?

00:41:02.280 How can this be?

00:41:03.680 Well, it's because they don't know.

00:41:05.660 So thank God for people like Alex Jones and thank God for you guys and for, for tragedy and

00:41:12.400 hoping for everyone who's out there trying to just, you know, work together and help each other to

00:41:17.860 inform the rest of the people who need to be informed so that we can actually make a bigger

00:41:23.600 splash than they do.

00:41:24.720 Because right now, Monsanto is paying off all the government agencies so that they can go on

00:41:30.640 undetected.

00:41:31.220 Yeah, you make a really good point about, yeah, Alex going into that bar.

00:41:37.580 And I've heard Hendrick say something like that before too.

00:41:39.680 It's just amazing.

00:41:40.780 And same thing with the women. 1.00

00:41:42.160 It's like, get your act together. 1.00

00:41:44.040 Pull your head out of your ass, you know? 1.00

00:41:46.300 Things are happening. 1.00

00:41:48.440 And they have, women have the power. 1.00

00:41:51.020 We're not weaklings.

00:41:52.140 No one holds a gun to our head and makes us stay at home or makes us do anything.

00:41:56.300 We can do whatever we want to.

00:41:58.160 So, right.

00:42:00.380 Absolutely.

00:42:01.080 And you bring up a good point.

00:42:04.420 It makes me think about women's relationships with each other and how these relationships 1.00

00:42:09.940 also, it's not just men and women.

00:42:11.920 The relationships that we see, the themes playing out again through Hollywood and television

00:42:17.020 and et cetera.

00:42:18.240 It's about women competing with one another. 1.00

00:42:20.900 Oh, yeah.

00:42:21.720 And tearing each other down.

00:42:23.180 And you mentioned that Desperate Housewives.

00:42:26.720 I don't watch that, but I have seen it.

00:42:29.420 I've seen, you know, the commercials for it.

00:42:31.440 I've probably seen it on The Soup, that show that makes fun of all the reality TV, et cetera.

00:42:36.200 But that's exactly what you see.

00:42:38.100 These women aren't coming together and making each other stronger and empowering each other, 1.00

00:42:42.420 you know, as mothers, as wives, as sisters, just as women, as human beings.

00:42:48.540 They're not coming together.

00:42:50.140 Instead, what you see is this really unhealthy and destructive competition.

00:42:56.280 Oh, and liberation means I can go make out with a woman. 1.00

00:42:59.540 I'm liberated.

00:43:01.140 That's the extent of it.

00:43:02.060 Well, whatever it means for you, as long as that's true to you.

00:43:04.120 But I don't think people are really playing out roles that they're creating for themselves.

00:43:09.840 I don't think they're writing their own script.

00:43:11.500 I think like 70% of the people out there, maybe more, I don't know, maybe 90.

00:43:15.060 But a lot of people out there are playing out roles that they've seen their whole lives.

00:43:21.880 Whether it's, let's see, Joy Camp.

00:43:25.120 You interviewed those guys, Benny and Kevin, a couple weeks ago.

00:43:29.800 And I'm sure you saw the princess intervention video.

00:43:33.480 Oh, yeah.

00:43:34.500 What did you think of that?

00:43:36.200 It's hysterical.

00:43:37.240 I mean, we are raising little girls who all want to be princesses.

00:43:40.500 Like, why are we doing this?

00:43:42.300 Why are we perpetuating these ideas, these ideals to our children?

00:43:47.980 Why is Barbie still every little girl's favorite doll?

00:43:53.400 That and American Girl. 0.92

00:43:54.480 Like, these are just not healthy images.

00:43:58.280 I mean, sure, it's not a big deal.

00:44:00.380 But those are the main images.

00:44:02.580 There's really no balance.

00:44:05.300 The real women are not being represented. 0.96

00:44:08.720 No, you're absolutely right.

00:44:10.240 But in healthy friendships, healthy relationships, whether it be between two women, two men, a man and a woman, black, white, whatever.

00:44:19.980 Two adults, you know, coming together in a loving relationship.

00:44:25.340 If that's what those two individuals, if that's their path, that's their path.

00:44:30.300 Yeah.

00:44:30.520 It's really none of my business.

00:44:33.160 They're not violating my volition in any way.

00:44:35.140 Sure, of course.

00:44:35.540 I can be whoever I want to be.

00:44:38.340 But those aren't, it's not really healthy images that are, it's not loving relationships.

00:44:43.180 It's really just a strange brew of debauchery.

00:44:48.320 I don't know.

00:44:48.700 What's the word, Lana?

00:44:50.400 Yeah, I know.

00:44:51.380 What do you call this?

00:44:52.960 What do you call it?

00:44:54.140 Jeez.

00:44:54.340 Well, there's another aspect to this.

00:44:57.140 Speaking of feminism, Greer, who you brought up, she argued in her book, it's called The Female Eunuch, that women don't realize how much men hate them. 1.00

00:45:05.700 And this is something that you hear a lot of the famous feminists saying a lot of times. 1.00

00:45:10.020 I mean, they're man haters, some of them.

00:45:12.080 And it's like, speak for yourself, lady.

00:45:13.440 That's your experience.

00:45:14.300 I've had great experiences with men.

00:45:16.640 Again, right.

00:45:17.480 It's all individuals.

00:45:18.360 You can't generalize in that way.

00:45:21.020 With any one group, you just can't.

00:45:23.860 And sure, there are men out there who have had experiences in life who lead them to, you know, very unhealthy relationships with women.

00:45:32.800 And then there are men out there who are the opposite of that, who are supportive and loving.

00:45:38.960 And it's just, again, individuals.

00:45:42.140 And so this platform, it seems to me, not being familiar with her, but from what you've said, it seems to me, again, it's being used to divide and conquer.

00:45:52.820 That's right.

00:45:53.420 There's this quote I heard a long time ago, that which the gods would destroy, first they defied.

00:45:58.760 And that is true.

00:46:00.240 It is such an old strategy.

00:46:01.820 It is so obvious to me.

00:46:03.160 I see it everywhere.

00:46:04.660 I see it everywhere.

00:46:05.640 And, you know, these things that we all get hung up on, these illusions of differences, of separateness, it's really sad.

00:46:17.700 It's tragic.

00:46:18.920 Because we have so much more in common.

00:46:21.340 Yep.

00:46:22.460 More divide and conquer strategies, the promotion of, I think you said this earlier, unhealthy sex. 0.99

00:46:27.860 And I also think that sex is a powerful thing between two people and they can channel that energy.

00:46:34.660 People have known this for centuries.

00:46:36.700 And they want to meddle with that as well.

00:46:39.240 They want to mess up that lower chakra, your base chakra, and take advantage of it and control it.

00:46:45.920 Right.

00:46:46.560 They want to redirect your energy towards their ends, their agendas, and their interests.

00:46:52.920 And their interests are not the same as ours. 0.98

00:46:56.460 For the most part, from what I can understand, they're psychopaths. 0.99

00:47:02.480 Oh, yeah. 0.90

00:47:02.820 So we don't have a lot in common with them.

00:47:05.040 And yet, you know, they're running just about everything that affects us every day.

00:47:12.920 You know, again, get back to the GMOs in Monsanto because this really, it really bothers me that more people don't even understand this.

00:47:20.580 But the FDA and our government, our representatives, the people that are allegedly out there to protect us on our, you know, they're working on our behalf.

00:47:32.680 They're giving them free reign to essentially just experiment on us.

00:47:37.380 Yeah.

00:47:37.520 They're like, go ahead, put it out there.

00:47:39.320 The Americans aren't onto it like some of the people over in Europe where it's outlawed.

00:47:43.060 That's why I'm like, why aren't the Europeans louder? 1.00

00:47:46.800 Like, hello, America.

00:47:47.660 Or maybe they are, but then the press just blocks them.

00:47:50.980 And I tell people that here all the time, you know, a very small percentage of Europe has fluoride in their water and they've banned GMOs.

00:47:59.920 So, hello, you know.

00:48:01.460 It's like people are so brainwashed that they just think, no, FDA doesn't lie.

00:48:06.100 No, they're not bought and sold.

00:48:07.720 No, government never lies to me.

00:48:10.200 And I don't, right.

00:48:11.720 And I don't want to say, hey, believe me, GMOs are bad or believe me, fluoride is bad.

00:48:17.180 I would just love to see an open debate and discussion about these things in the public.

00:48:25.040 I would like for people to just have discussions about this, look at the research that's out there.

00:48:31.980 There are so many resources available to us.

00:48:34.780 We have scientists and, you know, intellectuals all over the place that should be looking at this and figuring out, hey, let's just answer the question.

00:48:43.940 Is fluoride safe or is it not?

00:48:46.480 And lay out the evidence for all of us laymen so that we can understand it.

00:48:50.120 Once you understand it, you should be able to lay it out for us so that in a simple way that we can understand it.

00:48:55.740 You know, not being a scientist or a physicist or what have you, an expert.

00:49:00.020 And, you know, this is just not happening.

00:49:02.780 It's all, you know, polarized.

00:49:05.620 Either it's bad or it's good and there's nothing in between and there's no discussion about it.

00:49:10.140 People just go out there and protest for or protest against. 0.93

00:49:12.680 It's just, it's silly. 0.88

00:49:14.580 It's childish. 0.80

00:49:15.340 I saw Mercola sent a newsletter.

00:49:18.040 I got it today.

00:49:18.480 I didn't read it yet.

00:49:19.120 But it was something about mainstream news is finally admitting that GMOs are bad.

00:49:23.980 I'm going to read it and see what it says.

00:49:25.600 But did you come across that article today?

00:49:27.820 No, I did not come across it today.

00:49:31.860 Well, I also wonder if there's a, well, duh, ding dong. 0.91

00:49:35.440 All these eugenics talk about it.

00:49:36.720 But a depopulation agenda.

00:49:39.040 Then I see these shows that keep emphasizing that a woman, once she's 40, she's pretty much over and done with. 0.85

00:49:45.700 You know, that's it for you. 0.99

00:49:47.360 Then I saw a stupid magazine the other day that read, life after 30. 1.00

00:49:54.020 Can you imagine that? 1.00

00:49:55.260 Soon it will read, life after 20.

00:49:58.240 Is there one, can there be life after 20?

00:50:03.000 Oh my God.

00:50:03.660 Can there be life, can there be life after 40?

00:50:06.200 I don't know.

00:50:07.220 But that is a meme that's out there and it's been out there for a really long time.

00:50:10.720 And again, it's just, I think it's really just dividing the population and also taking away the self-confidence and self-esteem of women and men alike.

00:50:20.480 Just taking away the self-confidence and self-esteem of individuals so that they are susceptible to authorities that are telling them what to eat, what to drink, what to think, what to look like, how to be, how to act in a relationship.

00:50:36.160 How to, you know, how to speak to one another, how to communicate or not communicate, etc.

00:50:41.360 We don't need that.

00:50:43.580 We can think for ourselves.

00:50:45.420 We just have to realize that, you know, these systems of control were there when we were born.

00:50:53.580 You're born into this system of slavery or indentured servitude.

00:50:58.840 You'd call it whatever you want, but you're born into these systems.

00:51:03.040 And before you have the opportunity to have intellectual self-defense, before your mind even develops, you're being pushed through.

00:51:11.040 And you're being shown images, whether it be Barbie or, you know, teenagers with Lady Gaga and Miley Cyrus, whatever.

00:51:22.360 It's all, it's psychological warfare.

00:51:28.840 And it's happening when we're children.

00:51:30.740 So we have to just realize that it's out there and it happened to us and we're all at various stages.

00:51:37.420 But if we're cognizant of it, if we're aware of it, then we can defend ourselves against it.

00:51:43.740 And we can teach other people that it's out there.

00:51:46.460 We can show them.

00:51:47.240 They can see it for themselves and then they can protect themselves against it.

00:51:51.460 You've probably heard Henrik talking about this, but in Sweden, in the schools, right away at a young age,

00:51:57.260 they're trying to do away with terms like he and she.

00:52:02.060 And they're having books where there's no family unit pictures in the stories.

00:52:09.200 It's like a giraffe and an elephant or anything but a man and a woman together having a kid.

00:52:14.380 I've heard something about this.

00:52:17.160 There's going to be no longer be, quote, mother or father, but instead partner.

00:52:23.740 So it's this sort of like androgynous thing. 0.58

00:52:26.580 Like we're partners.

00:52:28.240 Yep.

00:52:28.600 We're not husband and wife or mother and father.

00:52:32.960 We're just these robots.

00:52:36.560 Don't you think that's going to mess with kids?

00:52:38.080 I mean, we're meddling with the very forces of nature and we fight it with needles and syringes.

00:52:44.460 Again, I do not understand why we are letting people define these terms for us and define how we label ourselves.

00:52:51.640 And I'm not even sure why we're all so interested in labeling ourselves so quickly before we even figure out some things here.

00:52:57.840 You know, so it's again, it's about giving away your power, giving away your decision making and your choice in your life.

00:53:06.060 And when you do that, you're not living your life.

00:53:09.680 Well, what do you think about nature?

00:53:11.260 I mean, we're children of the earth.

00:53:13.000 We're made of the earth.

00:53:14.220 So didn't nature already define some of the roles of what's masculine and feminine?

00:53:18.820 Isn't it hardwired into us?

00:53:21.040 Well, possibly, yes.

00:53:22.360 And also there may be variations of that.

00:53:25.780 I mean, who am I to judge what any individual feels or wants to express through their journey in this world?

00:53:33.360 But I think that naturally we want to be individuals and we want to be volitionally living our lives.

00:53:42.540 We fear what?

00:53:44.520 We fear death.

00:53:45.440 We fear predators.

00:53:47.460 We fear things that take away our volition, that take away our right to choice and to live our lives however we want to here.

00:53:55.200 So long as we're not hurting anyone or violating anyone else's volition.

00:53:59.660 I think that's a very natural thing.

00:54:02.460 Now, sure, there are some people who are predators here or, as Rich would say, intraspecific kleptoparasites.

00:54:11.480 People, you know, of the same species preying on one another.

00:54:14.500 Yeah, there are predators.

00:54:15.400 But I think that 99% of the people here are just, as someone else I know would say, just salt of the earth, good people.

00:54:23.680 And I believe that.

00:54:25.240 That has been my experience.

00:54:27.060 Yeah, me too.

00:54:28.160 Even look in America after the time of some kind of crisis or hurricane.

00:54:31.500 Look at how many people actually help.

00:54:33.860 It's a very small percentage that are trying to go steal color TVs.

00:54:36.660 Right, and it's very small.

00:54:40.300 And then a lot of that also is propaganda because during Katrina, you saw images of certain people with supplies and that was looting.

00:54:51.540 And then you saw images of other people with supplies and that was just called doing what you had to do to survive.

00:54:57.660 So, again, why are we letting people label things for us?

00:55:01.400 Why aren't we doing our own thinking?

00:55:03.080 And, you know, it's important to understand the neglected aspects, some of the things that you and I have been discussing that, you know, we didn't learn in school, that wasn't in the textbooks.

00:55:15.420 But we managed to find our way through some history books and other resources because the psychological warfare is being purveyed largely through good-intentioned individuals under the guise of these things like feminism or whatever.

00:55:33.080 Whatever other ism you want to put on it, you know, we have the ability to think for ourselves so that these things can be a plague of the past instead of an ailment of the present that festers into the future.

00:55:48.420 Yeah, I hate that.

00:55:50.400 I like bacon and eggs, but Edward Bernays is responsible for Mr. Bacon and Eggs.

00:55:56.380 I'm like, ah, you know, just the other day I was like, ah, I don't want it because of him, you know.

00:56:00.900 Well, maybe it's not all bad because bacon and eggs are good for you.

00:56:05.080 You know, it's the essential fatty acids and all the good fats that give you that boost of energy, that slow-burning energy.

00:56:13.580 I mean, that's what Dave Asprey and the Bulletproof Diet and all of that is based on, or at least that's one of the foundations of it.

00:56:21.640 But, you know, so it's not all bad.

00:56:23.620 Again, we have to think for ourselves.

00:56:25.160 If they're pushing something on you like bacon and eggs, go and do your own research.

00:56:29.260 Is this good?

00:56:30.380 And then if they're pushing something like cornflakes and you do the research and you find out that, oh, that's what they did with like whatever the extra corn, they had it pressed into flakes and they used it at psychiatry hospitals and all of these institutions, you know.

00:56:43.400 And then you look at the ingredients and you say, wait a minute, this isn't healthy.

00:56:46.620 Again, just do your own thinking.

00:56:48.520 Be responsible.

00:56:49.000 Oh yeah, eggs and bacon is totally demonized in America, you know. 1.00

00:56:52.220 Yeah, well, there are a lot of things.

00:56:54.000 Yeah, there are a lot of things that are being purveyed and it's just really up to us.

00:56:58.760 And it's not easy, which is why we need to come together because we can't all be experts in every area of our lives, you know.

00:57:05.420 But some of us are, you know, have expertise in various areas.

00:57:11.980 And if we come together, we can do this thing called learning and communicating and find our way through.

00:57:17.020 Hey, I know you're not big on the New Age movement either, but another area where feminism comes up is in the New Age movement. 0.98

00:57:23.800 I've been hearing it a lot.

00:57:26.280 Basically, ladies saying, this is the time of the female. 1.00

00:57:30.200 What are your thoughts on that?

00:57:31.580 Because a lot of these women also feel like they kind of harbor some secret resentment towards men.

00:57:35.180 Well, I haven't done much research on the New Age movement, but I will mention that Mark Passio recently did a seven-hour presentation at his Free Your Mind conference that someone suggested to me, and I haven't listened to it yet, but I will.

00:57:54.160 And it's all about the New Age movement and how it's really this new religion for intellectuals and people who, again, are good-intentioned, but they've really stopped thinking for themselves.

00:58:12.000 And they become part of this thing that is a collective and doesn't necessarily have their best interests in mind.

00:58:18.500 So that's all I can really say about it, which I guess isn't much, but I would suggest Mark Passio's presentation, since it was suggested to me by someone who usually has a good sense about these things, and maybe learn more.

00:58:34.000 Yeah, I'd say, why can't it be the time of the male and female together?

00:58:39.160 You know, again, another divide-and-conquer thing.

00:58:41.580 Like, yeah, we all have something to contribute.

00:58:44.400 We just need to be symbiotic and put down the competitiveness and, you know, figure out how our energy is being redirected into all these things and just take it back ourselves and say, here's, you know, again, there's a balance.

00:59:00.640 I think there is a natural balance in the world, and we can all make each other stronger instead of whittling each other down and taking away.

00:59:11.580 Because all that's doing is defeating ourselves and feeding in to this other agenda that is destructive.

00:59:19.260 So I would just say that, again, the antidote to this social control, to the divide-and-conquer, the antidote is to learn our way out and to start thinking for ourselves and to then come together.

00:59:35.940 Because that's the only way that we can effectively resist and create the world that we want to live in.

00:59:44.760 Definitely. 1.00

00:59:45.960 And on one more note, since we're talking about women in divide-and-conquer, there's also, I've been seeing a lot of anti-white women propaganda in TV that the white blondes are always bigots, racist, arrogant, rude, stupid, selfish, bad moms, and bad wives. 1.00

01:00:02.500 And that's another area that's really being attacked right now. 1.00

01:00:05.900 And it's just, it's the same themes.

01:00:07.980 And the brunette is shy and smart and awkward and doesn't get the best-looking guy according to this ideal, you know, feminine and masculine beauty. 1.00

01:00:19.780 And it's just, again, the same things played over and over for us.

01:00:23.800 And so then when you see people acting out these roles, then, you know, you have to realize that that's why.

01:00:30.460 It's not their fault.

01:00:31.800 They just started emulating the adults around them before they realized they could think for themselves.

01:00:38.380 Yeah, that's right.

01:00:40.120 And then it's reinforced our whole lives.

01:00:42.040 So you find yourself, you know, 20-something, 30-something, 40-something with this theme of I'm not good enough.

01:00:49.520 This theme in your life of I'm not good enough.

01:00:52.440 I have to be different.

01:00:53.220 I have to change.

01:00:54.560 And not only that, but these labels, I'm blonde, I'm ditzy, I'm brunette, I'm smart, whatever they are.

01:01:02.500 And if we don't realize that, then we're going to be suffering as a result of it.

01:01:10.760 I know I personally suffered through that I'm not good enough thing most of my life.

01:01:16.840 And it wasn't until I started realizing these things and how my perception of myself, my self-image, my self-confidence, my role as a woman, as a sister, whatever it was, had been predefined for me.

01:01:35.180 I never gave it any thought.

01:01:37.440 I just sort of became.

01:01:39.180 Yeah, that's really key.

01:01:41.180 Yeah, we learn from the other people who come here before us.

01:01:45.960 And if we've all been born into slavery and subject to the same system of control, then, you know, we can't really pass on wisdom that is going to allow people to break free of that.

01:02:01.740 And so we have to disrupt this pattern that's being played out generation over generation and put some learning into the equation and some nonviolent or I like to call it compassionate communication into the equation and figure out how to get things done, you know, together as individuals.

01:02:23.500 I have to keep saying that because I know people say that's collective.

01:02:25.960 Yeah, we have to break the cycle and sometimes we've learned bad things from our moms to our moms and our dads and that's a hard process.

01:02:35.800 I mean, I talk to girlfriends now that are still dealing with things from their childhood at, you know, 30 and 40, but it must be done to break the cycle.

01:02:43.820 Right. And again, it happens a lot when you're a child and you don't have the intellectual self-defense because your brain is not yet fully developed.

01:02:52.940 And so these things happen to you and you feel that you cause them.

01:02:56.420 It's your fault, et cetera, et cetera.

01:02:58.120 And that, again, is just this this self-loathing, self-destructive path.

01:03:04.200 And as an adult, you almost get into that same childlike mindset of this is my fault.

01:03:10.540 Or as Mark Passio said at one point that this woman had said to him, there are no bad experiences.

01:03:17.560 There are just experiences.

01:03:19.860 And that is not true.

01:03:20.740 He's like, tell that to someone who has been abused or tortured in any number of ways, the things that are going on right now around the planet.

01:03:30.980 You can't say that that is not true.

01:03:33.080 But what they have to realize is that at any point in your life, you know, what happened happened and you can move forward.

01:03:39.780 You can work through that and you can take responsibility and say that, hey, that happened.

01:03:46.200 I am who I am because of it.

01:03:47.640 And you can move forward.

01:03:49.220 You can live your life.

01:03:51.140 You have the other choice of being a victim.

01:03:55.480 But I think it's, you know, and again, I can't speak for everyone.

01:04:00.720 But personally, I feel that I'm stronger because of everything that happened in my life, for better or worse.

01:04:08.040 And, you know, at some point, you just have to say, I'm responsible for my happiness.

01:04:13.800 That's right.

01:04:14.620 I think that's a good place to wrap up, Lisa.

01:04:16.580 It's always a pleasure speaking with you.

01:04:18.400 I'm very thankful for your time this afternoon.

01:04:20.740 Thanks, Lana.

01:04:21.480 I really appreciate your time also.

01:04:23.480 And again, I appreciate your persistence in getting me back on the show.

01:04:28.780 You're worth it.

01:04:30.620 Tragedyandhope.com is the website.

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Radio 3Fourteen - July 24, 2013

Feminism as Psychological Warfare _ Harnessing Human Resources

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