In this episode, Elizabeth talks about her journey back to Germanic Heathenism and her journey to find her spiritual roots. She shares her story of growing up in a Christian home and being introduced to the pagan religion.
00:29:20.260They are, because, you know, the thing about human beings is that, you know, naturally, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but naturally, we're magical thinkers.
00:29:30.880We think superstitiously, and we tend to believe what we're told.
00:29:35.680And, you know, a black cat crosses your path before you have a really bad day, and so the next day you think, well, I better not, you know, let that black cat cross my path again.
00:29:43.800Like, logic and critical thinking and reasoning skills are not necessarily something that comes naturally.
00:29:50.880You have to teach them to yourself or learn them in school.
00:29:54.420And we know that more and more they are not teaching people how to reason and how to think critically at all.
00:30:00.040They're just teaching people how to obey.
00:30:01.720And so even people who are in the alternative news community, it's just so much easier to just, you know, spout off what you've been told because it's so comforting than to actually receive anything someone says, no matter how absurd it might seem, and then dissect it with your logic.
00:30:19.360Look into it yourself and think, well, maybe that's appalling to me, but I'm going to do a little digging around and see, is there some truth to that?
00:30:28.120Exactly. It's like when you look into the Holocaust or slavery, it should be a good thing that if you find out as many people didn't die or as many people weren't slaves or that everyone was slaves and you weren't just singled out, it should be a good thing.
00:30:40.800But people want to hang on to that because they're using it as a political weapon.
00:31:05.280Yeah, I basically, I liken it to a shaman's path because, you know, for a shaman, although this would be healing yourself, in order to retrieve a part of your soul or a part of their client's soul, the person they're healing,
00:31:17.880they have to descend all the way down to the underworld to find that piece of soul and take on the sickness of their client who they're healing and then return back to the upper world.
00:31:27.900And so, you know, as a Christian, I took it as far as it could go.
00:31:32.380This is later in life, obviously, not when I was 12.
00:31:35.540I reverted to my Christian programming because when it's in there, you will revert.
00:31:40.440Because what will happen to you is you'll have something terrible happen to you, like you'll go through a breakup or you'll lose a job or you'll injure yourself.
00:31:48.740And it's burned in your consciousness, even if you've been practicing paganism for a while.
00:31:58.480And so I reverted back to Christianity for a long time.
00:32:02.080But what happened with that is I started doing research then, again, as an adult.
00:32:07.500And I started noticing all the inconsistencies and, you know, just the general embracing of ignorance that kind of typified the Christian community.
00:32:17.560And so I basically started searching for, like, where's the real Bible?
00:32:23.640You know, most fundamentalists, they will say all day long that the King James Version is the authoritative Bible, right?
00:32:30.780Well, the thing is that when I did the research on my ancestors who came over here, I found out that they didn't actually carry the King James Bible.
00:32:39.720They carried the Geneva Bible with them.
00:32:41.660So I looked into the Geneva Bible and what was the difference between that and the King James Bible.
00:32:47.600And basically, King James didn't like all of the anti-monarchy sentiment in the Geneva Bible.
00:32:54.180So he had it rewritten to serve his own purposes.
00:32:57.820And so that got me thinking, well, where's the real Bible?
00:33:02.500And I concluded, well, it must be in the Greek.
00:33:05.960And to make a long story short, I ended up looking into Greek Orthodoxy.
00:33:11.020I actually started going to a Greek Orthodox church.
00:33:13.840And from then on, I looked into, you know, really started studying it, learning all about Paul and what he taught and Jesus and what he taught.
00:33:23.120And then I started to notice that, wait, these two really conflicted with each other, Paul and Jesus.
00:34:19.740Yahweh was not the same thing as El, which any Jew or a very learned Christian knows that, you know, those are terms for God.
00:34:27.480And somewhere along the line, you know, if I were to just guess, I would say that it may have been kind of a patriarchal movement, maybe a movement towards consolidating male power and making sure that you know who, you know, the father of your child is so you can pass on your belongings to that child.
00:34:49.820And so, hence all the restrictive laws against, you know, sexual promiscuity and those kinds of things.
00:34:57.180Yeah, it seems to with evenry, there's no central authorities, there's no single organization.
00:35:04.020It's more for the anarchist types who believe in self-rule.
00:35:07.060And I think they had to put the kibosh on that at some point.
00:35:10.560Like, okay, we've got to push this other thing.
00:35:12.540So, you know, the New World Order is beginning a long time ago.
00:35:17.360And, you know, looking at it now, examining it now that I'm free of the bonds of Christianity, it appears to me that it was used by the Byzantine Empire and the Romans as the perfect way to inject this, you know, self-flagellating, you know, slave religion into these people.
00:35:37.120And then, you know, to basically appoint, you know, a priest to be by the side of every king.
00:35:44.160I mean, if you study history, you can see exactly how this works because the Byzantine and Roman Empire, well, Rome had fallen, but that was the new Roman Empire with the church.
00:35:53.880And they had so much power, and they would basically, you know, bribe these big, burly pagan kings and say, hey, you know, we'll play ball with you.
00:36:06.500But to do that, you have got to convert to Christianity and convert your people to Christianity.
00:36:11.400And here is our elected official, this priest, who will be by your side to influence, you know, all of your rulemaking and policies.
00:36:18.860And so slowly it spreads like this virus, you know, as they one by one abandon their traditions, and in a lot of cases with extreme bloodshed.
00:36:29.440You know, if you look at Charlemagne and the massive slaughtering of the Saxons that he committed when he was converting them to paganism.
00:36:37.560And then eventually it just becomes fear-based, you know.
00:36:40.760You know, no one would ever admit that they worship the old gods anymore, not after the slaughter, you know, all the slaughter and inquisition and everything.
00:36:49.420Even the witchcraft trials, I believe, were the last vestiges of paganism that they were trying to snuff out.
00:36:56.460And then here we are now where, you know, who knows how many Germanic heathens there are on the planet.
00:37:03.800But even now, I don't think a lot of people would feel comfortable standing up and saying that that's what they believe, because they would be completely ostracized and demonized for it.
00:37:11.520Yeah, I think there is a resurgence, I heard, in Eastern Europe, which I was glad to hear people are denouncing Christianity and going back into the old pre-Christian faith.
00:37:20.660And, yeah, to have that kind of revival would be pretty powerful among the European people, I think.
00:37:28.500I think, for me, I almost feel like that is the one element missing from the entire resistance I see happening now that would really unite people together is to, you know, part of it, you've got to shake off the shame.
00:37:44.600You've got to shake off the guilt that has been pounded into you that, you know, and really, in most cases, you do not deserve.
00:37:51.280I had an incident the other day in my personal life that was like that.
00:37:54.820And, you know, part of that is the Christian programming, you know, and part of it is realizing that, wait, you know, when you look into these traditions, they're so beautiful, they're so rich, and full of such fantastic, beautiful symbolism, you know, and that that comes from your people's soul.
00:38:17.120If they created that, that sprang from them, you know, and you're not having to superimpose some Middle Eastern cult of shame onto your soul, you know, like this fake thing anymore.
00:38:30.460Something happens to you when you read these myths.
00:38:32.300When you read Voluspa, which is how I got back, finally, and made the final break when I read The Prophecy of the Seerus and the Poetic Ada.
00:38:40.340When you read that, you can feel it resonate with you.
00:38:46.640I've got it right here, if you'd like me to read this answer or two.
00:38:50.640But what it is, is it's the opening of the Poetic Ada.
00:38:54.420The Poetic Ada, for anyone who doesn't know, is basically a collection of old heathen poems that were written down in Iceland.
00:39:03.140Iceland was the last nation to finally convert to Christianity in the year 1000 AD, and so they held on to these traditions at the forefront of their minds for a much longer time than a lot of other Germanic eathen people did.
00:39:16.820And Voluspa is when the god Odin goes to the seer, who is, when you read it, it seems to be her name was probably Heidi, or she says, calls herself Hive.
00:39:30.480But he goes to the seer to ask her to please recount to him how the world was created and what is to come.
00:39:37.920And she starts speaking, and the one that I read is Lee Hollander's translation.
00:39:46.500And I read it in a moment where I had gone all the way through the path of Christianity to the path of Judaism, thinking, oh, well, if Christianity isn't real, then maybe Judaism is the answer.
00:40:54.560Like, I am finally just going to completely embrace and have the courage to make that leap and embrace the beliefs of my ancestors and the ways of my ancestors.
00:41:04.780And, you know, to hell with the fear of hell and all the fear and the sin and everything.
00:41:19.800And what's so funny about that is that, you know, even in, you know, hell, the concept of hell began with Christianity.
00:41:28.280If you really want to go back, it began with Zoroastrianism.
00:41:31.460But in Judaism, which Christianity came from, there is no concept of a fiery hell.
00:41:37.040They actually have a concept of the other world that's kind of similar to the Scandinavian hell that they called Sheol, which was a shadowy, kind of more dimly lit realm of the dead.
00:41:49.620And hell in the Scandinavian tradition, named after the goddess, who is one of Loki's children, who administers over it, is a place where those who die of old age and sickness go in between lives.
00:42:04.500That's before, and yes, our people did believe in reincarnation throughout their myths and their stories.
00:42:11.580But yeah, no, it was not a place of punishment by any means.
00:42:14.720If anything, it was a place of rest and healing for the soul in between your lives.
00:42:18.200I know there's many recovering Christians listening out there, but how did you finally break through your Christian programming?
00:42:23.920That is one thing that I've done a lot of thinking on, and I feel like I have a lot of experience with because I fought, had to fight so hard against it.
00:42:32.820An analogy that I use is that your soul, your psyche, is like a garden, and, you know, Christianity becomes like a weed in that garden or a vine that kind of overgrows everything.
00:42:49.600And so even though you hack away at a little bit of it, you know, and you think that you're free of it, and now you're this pagan, or even, you know, you're this atheist or something else, it still remains there.
00:43:16.580It appeals to the kind of child in you who wants a parent who's going to provide you with everything, and you don't have to do it yourself.
00:43:27.100So, you know, you have to think of that.
00:43:29.380You know, nobody wants to do more effort than is required for anything, right?
00:43:34.600And it's the same for spirituality, right?
00:43:37.340Christianity is comfortable because all you have to do is have faith and believe, repent when you sin, you know, read the Bible, have faith, convert others.
00:43:51.040But heathenry requires you to be strong.
00:43:54.460So, you know, first there's that, you know, realize that it's comforting for you because all the answers are provided.
00:44:00.760Also realize that fear is a huge part of it because, I mean, you go in any church and you're going to be lucky if you don't get away at some point with hearing about the threat of hell.
00:45:03.420You wake up, you're free, you don't feel demons whispering into your ear, you know, at any chance encouraging you to lust after people or steal something.
00:45:10.760You know, I think that one of the things that, it's funny that Christianity does to you, or Judaism, any kind of black and white thinking religion.
00:46:03.480And you only have to know any Christian or be a Christian to know it's impossible.
00:46:08.320And, you know, everything else becomes demonized.
00:46:10.360And then those things that normally would be natural drives, you know, they're not that bad.
00:46:14.640They have this weird attraction to them.
00:46:16.920So, they become, you create that reality.
00:46:19.160It does become a world filled with temptation, you know.
00:46:23.600I noticed when I became a pagan that that went away.
00:46:26.420I mean, I was like, why am I not feeling like I have to police my thoughts constantly, you know, to think happy, good, forgiving, loving thoughts about my enemies.
00:47:19.880And the thing is, is that they, you know, I think that that might be part of it, too, in that instance.
00:47:25.180And, you know, here we're talking about, I assume, kind of the concept of grooming, right, which is this practice that these men will do, where they will look around for naive young girls and kind of, you know, seduce them and then take advantage of them.
00:47:45.100And it's kind of like on a female, you know, individual level what's happening when I talk about adopting the Abrahamic religions.
00:47:52.700So, on the one hand, you have, you know, these poor men, these European men are constantly inundated with this propaganda, right, filled, you know, constantly told that they're not allowed to say anything or they're racist, you know, cut off from any knowledge of their heroic and wonderful past, not encouraged to be that way anymore.
00:48:12.280And so, they're walking around not knowing what to do.
00:48:14.800And then you have these women who naturally, naturally women are attracted to powerful men, right, who will provide for their needs, you know, fight for them, defend them.
00:48:24.020And here come these men from a very patriarchal culture who carry themselves, I'm sure, with amazing, you know, confidence.
00:48:32.220Well, isn't that a blow in the face to the Swedish feminists?
00:51:02.760And we learn from them patterns of behavior.
00:51:05.140So, you know, when you're a child, you don't even know yet, you know, how you're going to lean later.
00:51:09.660Of course, these things are going to influence you, especially if every pop star is like, you know, this slutty, crazy, you know, wearing a meat suit, you know, making out with everybody.
00:51:18.600Like, you're going to want to be like her, you know.
00:51:58.180And I actually had someone kind of present that to me the other day as if they, because their child was, you know, of mixed heritage, that they were somehow doing some great noble thing and making the world better.
00:52:10.060And the thing is, is that, you know, I'm not against that, you know.
00:52:14.360I mean, love is a mysterious force that can touch anyone at any time.
00:52:19.160You can fall in love with who knows what, you know, who knows, you know, whether it's the same gender, the opposite.
00:52:24.520You know, that happens, you know, it might be someone from a completely different culture.
00:52:36.800That's, that's where I have a problem with it, especially when it's a political agenda to, you know, use, using the concept of love to brainwash people into, you know, leaning a certain way.
00:52:48.540Because behind the scenes, the real motivation is to wipe out this culture, which through the ages has shown to be the most threatening to your machinations, you know.
00:53:14.500They want to homogenize everyone into completely non-individualized units, like the true battery of the matrix, so that you have no roots to a culture, to anything that distinguishes you.
00:53:26.920You have no connection to either gender.
00:53:29.240You can go whichever way is required at the time.
00:53:31.560And imagine, if you were this, you know, psychopathic emperor who wanted to come up with the best way to rule people, that's exactly how you would do it, you know.
00:53:41.760So, I mean, when I was a kid, I remember we would have an international day, you know, where everybody would pick a country.
00:53:49.180And they would make a dish and dress up in a traditional costume and, you know, present their country and talk about all the beautiful traditions of that country and what makes them so unique.
00:53:58.360And I thought, wow, I took away from that that we live in such a beautiful world because we really do have so many different traditions that give each of us strength, you know.
00:54:08.360And now I look and I see that there's obviously an agenda to destroy that, not just with white Europeans, but with everybody.
00:54:17.600Because if you look at it, you know, that may be the most obvious now, but everybody is a target.
00:54:24.140And, you know, the culture that they want to give us is their perfect packaged, you know, corporate consumer culture.
00:54:30.380So your culture now is, you know, the ad that comes on with the little xylophone in the background and the lady singing la, la, la, la, la.
00:54:37.400Oh, God, yeah. I think I know the commercial.
00:54:40.360Yeah, and having an iPod, you know, and it's like, you know, this hipster, weird, kind of vapid, empty, plastic culture.
00:54:47.220You know, that's what they want everybody to think.
00:54:49.400I think now, even though Christianity, I'm sure there's some old stuff embedded in there, but even now that stands in the way because it still carries some old mythology.
00:54:58.840So even that has to be destroyed now. Don't you notice now they want to bring in this egalitarianistic religion?
00:55:04.980Oh, yeah, yeah, they are attacking that.
00:55:08.940And, yeah, I mean, I could be wrong, but I think that most, like, really, I mean, you may be on a list if you're a very fervent and fundamental Christian.
00:55:19.700Like, you know, I mean, there's a demonization of that, too, because I think that, you know, America as a nation, you know, has such a strong tradition to Christianity if you go back far enough.
00:55:31.340And I don't think that they want to encourage, I don't think that the people running things across the globe, I'm not speaking out against the American government per se, but they don't want to encourage anything that would make people passionate about the way things used to be and return to that.
00:55:47.880They want to kind of, my feeling is they want everybody to kind of have this fatigue and malaise about the past and be looking to them to give them, like, the hope for the future, which is, as you say, this egalitarian, you know, kind of new religion.
00:56:02.820Yeah. Culture stands in the way. Race stands in the way from this utopia oneness that, of course, we know will never exist.
00:56:10.680No. Yeah, it will never exist, unfortunately.
00:56:14.800And the only way it would ever exist is if you actually, well, geez, you'd have to get rid of the entire concept of corporations having anything to do with rulemaking of any kind and have, you know, free energy and actually use the technology we have to create this utopian world, which it appears is entirely possible if the people were actually in control.
00:56:35.120Well, that's the only way we would have it. And even then, I mean, the human nature will always have that darker side to it.
00:56:42.640You're always going to have, you know, crime against one another, skirmishes, wars of some kind. It's just part of the human position.
00:56:51.060Yeah. So how would you see integrating paganism into our modern world? Because a lot of people think that when we talk about that, we're talking about returning back to living like peasants.
00:57:02.180I was saying we could still trade and enjoy technology, etc. We don't have to go back to, you know, the Stone Age.
00:57:08.340No, yeah, we don't need to go back to the Stone Age, you know. And one way to look at it is to take a very ancient religion that existed, you know, at the same time, even, you know, that these Germanic and Celtic traditions evolved and actually has similar roots to the Indo-European traditions that has survived into modern times without much intervention, which would be Hinduism, you know.
00:57:32.720And if you look at ancient Hinduism, you know, they had their Vedic fire rites that they held on mountaintops and, you know, long recitation of chants.
00:57:43.240And now you take your modern Hindu and, you know, they will have a little household shrine of their own, you know, where they might burn a little incense or pray a little bit to their god.
00:57:53.380Like, it doesn't have to be a return to, you know, the return to the groves, you know, and, like, you know, making blood runes and doing all this reenactment stuff.
00:58:04.420It doesn't have to be that. And it shouldn't really be that, you know, that the past is the past. We should evolve as a people.
00:58:10.700And what I imagine would be a wonderful way to see it is I think that people should learn about, you know, all the beautiful mythology from the past and also learn how to make it current.
00:58:25.000So, for example, you just think of the people in your family who have passed on, who you love, who are dear to you, and you can even start that simply.
00:58:32.820You just, you know, take a picture of grandpa and grandma, you know, and light. It's very simple.
00:58:38.960You know, you just light a couple candles, put out a nice bowl and maybe some greenery or, you know, a rock that has meaning to you, something to connect you to the natural world.
00:58:49.500And just from the heart, you know, take that time to, you know, speak to them, to do what our ancestors traditionally did, which was to offer a little bit of food or a little bit of, you know, ale or mead or even cream and milk in a lot of cases was used.
00:59:05.840Or their favorite beverage, if grandma would love tea, you know, offer some tea and, you know, just to recover those traditions.
00:59:12.680You know, even Jacob Grimm in his German mythology, which is a four-volume tone that I just began reading, he covers these traditions of the people and how that really is the simplest way.
00:59:25.260They didn't always have a huge temple they would go to, like in the Vikings, although that was beautiful, to go see, you know, Odin and Frey and Thor as these huge gods and do this crazy huge ritual.
00:59:35.720Often it was just something done in the house, you know, just to recognize your connection to your family, connection to nature, and to honor your connection to your people.
00:59:46.400Yeah, I mean, I'm big on tradition, but now I see that word being demonized to you.
00:59:50.600Now people think it's some conservative right-wing idea.
01:01:52.520And the thing is, is that now we're backed into a corner.
01:01:56.400It's to a point where you look and you realize that the person that, you know, the force that has been doing this to you is actually your enemy.
01:02:03.540And has your annihilation right at hand.
01:02:09.840Yeah, I think that if you stay quiet, the force will not reward you.
01:02:14.320It will end up at your door and you're going to have to fight it one way or another.
01:02:17.380But if you're bold and you step out and you start speaking and you start living how you want to live and say what you want to say, the force will be with you.
01:02:26.580I mean, I'm just so amazed, really, that I mean, I only started speaking up about these things in my own personal life and community very recently.
01:02:36.020And the reaction I get is so emotional and angry and dismissive that it does, it makes me ever more determined to talk about it more.
01:02:45.820Because, you know, I had no idea that basically the feeling that I get is, you know, as long as you, you know, and I'm getting racial here because that's what we're talking about.
01:02:57.280It's like, okay, little white person, as long as you sit in your seat quietly and hang your head sheepishly and know your place, then you're fine and we'll play along with you and you're accepted.
01:03:08.540But the minute that you don't know your place and you dare to not adhere to all of these PC rules that, you know, we've laid down for you to follow, then it's like it's on.
01:03:19.720I've noticed that as soon as you start saying anything.
01:03:47.000And, you know, there's a lot of challenges with that because the first instinct when you're back into a corner, like, think about this, right?
01:03:54.840You know, everybody's very civil when there's nothing to be fought over.
01:03:58.760You know, everybody's friends, everybody's very civil.
01:04:00.900But, you know, in any time of war, the moment that, you know, war is at hand and you face the enemy, it's instinctive to immediately dehumanize the enemy, right?
01:04:10.900To demonize them, make them out to be something, you know, really terrible because it makes it easier for you to deal with the grim reality of fighting against them.
01:04:21.920And it's strength is your anger is a strengthening force.
01:04:24.380And one thing that I think is a challenge is that once you start looking towards ideas of European identity, you know, or dare I say nationalism, things like that, you're going to find a lot of people who, you know, they are so fed up and so angry that it's very easy to fall into the black hole of, you know, really embracing the sense of actual real authentic racism.
01:04:49.840Where, you know, you start, because you're so fired up about it that you start thinking, well, maybe all the old racial slurs and beliefs about, you know, everybody, you know, and then you start getting into the realm of, you know, white supremacy and stuff like that.
01:05:05.100And, you know, for me personally, I feel like that's a really dark path.
01:05:08.880It's like what we want to do is be an example to other people who know that they're struggling with the same issues, to be an example on how to preserve and maintain your roots, recover your traditions without threatening others, you know, without denigrating others so that they can do the same.
01:05:28.980I mean, the only people that you really need to turn your fuel, your full fury and wrath against are those who really are perpetuating this war against you because they deserve it.
01:05:38.140Yep. And when I say resistance, it doesn't mean violence, but it means standing up and not taking the crap anymore, just calling a spade a spade.
01:05:46.120And I have to say, after I interviewed Tim Murdoch and a whole new crowd contacted me and they are some of the coolest people I have ever met.
01:05:55.060They're not violent. They're very well-rounded and cool and they see what's going on.
01:05:59.780So they're definitely not white supremacists like people try and say.
01:06:02.980They just want to be left alone. They want everyone to be left alone, in fact.
01:06:06.560I know. I know. That was such an amazing interview.
01:06:11.520And, yeah, that's kind of what led me into finding out what was really going on.
01:06:16.520That, combined with Henrik's presentation on Sweden, really opened my eyes.
01:06:22.800And I was aware initially, the first time I ever even heard about any of this, was the nation of Greece and what they've been through.
01:06:30.220Yeah. And that was just horrifying to really see what has been done to those people.
01:06:35.600Yeah. And then, you know, hearing about Sweden and then I started thinking, well, wait, what about all the other countries?
01:06:43.060So all I did is I started searching on every traditionally European country and the issue of immigration that I could find.
01:06:49.820And one after another, I saw that the exact same thing is happening in every nation.
01:06:54.400And just, you know, watching these videos of these cities completely overrun with people from, you know, that do not, I mean, they're from a completely different world and culture.
01:07:06.580And, you know, hearing about that women in Sweden have to dye their hair to try to, you know, I mean.
01:07:45.100I mean, didn't they use that as the, it's like, whatever serves their purpose, you know, they use that at first to justify all this war, right?
01:07:56.420But then now we're being called to switch gears, right?
01:07:59.740Open your hearts and, you know, like I said earlier, sorry to be vulgar, but open your hearts and lift up your skirts and, you know, welcome Islam.
01:08:23.600And the only sense that it makes is if it's not an actual ideology springing out of, you know, intelligence, logic, and wisdom, but instead it's just a propaganda tool construct used to manipulate people.
01:08:35.640Like, then that's the only way it makes sense.
01:09:03.060And, you know, cities throughout the globe have always, in all times, they've always been multicultural.
01:09:08.120Usually not slanted as badly as London and Oslo, you know, and places like that have become now, but, you know, those big cities are where trade is done, you know, and actually, traditionally, we're a more agrarian, you know, people connected to the land.
01:09:24.120So, you know, like you say, no, it makes sense for us to lead the cities in the future.
01:09:29.100I mean, I think that, you know, I watched something recently, it was a convention with Nick Griffin talking.
01:09:36.680It was like some kind of nationalist convention.
01:09:39.460And what's funny is to see these people who are so demonized and called neo-Nazis and they're so terrible talking together about a brotherhood of European nations, you know.
01:09:50.320And that, to me, harkened back to that international day when I was in sixth grade.
01:09:54.260And I thought, wow, that sounds really beautiful.
01:09:56.460So, you're all recognizing your separate beautiful traditions and willing to fight for the right to have, you know, a Greek Greece, you know, a British England, a French France, and, you know, unite to preserve these traditions.
01:10:17.660And, yeah, it's just, gosh, I'm just, it's so disheartening to see what's going on, but it's so uplifting when you start seeing that people are waking up.
01:10:30.400You know, people are realizing that people are not as silent as the media would like us to believe.
01:10:36.680And, as you say, it is inevitable, you know.
01:10:40.280And I think that it can be done in a way, hopefully, that does not require bloodshed and, you know, firing in the streets.
01:10:49.420I mean, just looking at how Greece is leaning more and more towards, you know, getting away from the EU is one example.
01:10:57.120Yeah, I think this is going to push us to a good place collectively as Europeans.
01:11:01.300I think we're going to walk away from our corrupt governments.
01:11:04.260Some people probably are going to need to be dealt with, though.
01:11:07.260So we'll have to take back control of the military and the technology, and then we're going to have to dismantle into smaller colonies from there.
01:11:36.200I'd rather be out somewhere in the country with people I like and hold the fort and protect the land than have to deal with what I'm dealing with now with government and all this multicultural madness and violence.
01:11:49.940I know people have forgotten what real culture is.
01:11:52.680You know, everybody's so exhausted with the world and the state of things.
01:11:56.500And they just, they go to their jobs and they get, you know, if they have one.
01:12:00.320And they come home, they engage in whatever kind of mind-numbing behavior they can and hope for the best.
01:12:05.340And, you know, it's just, you know, they listen to their pop music and, you know, which is ever more robotic, creepily.
01:12:12.100And, you know, watch their propaganda movies and everything.
01:12:16.000And they forget that, you know, real culture involves, you know, gathering around a bonfire and everybody singing songs, pulling out a few instruments, you know, and sharing stories, you know.
01:12:39.220But, you know, we would not lose anything if we just completely snubbed all of the mass media entertainment and came up with our own entertainment.
01:12:49.940So are there any sources you can recommend for people who want to look more back into evenism?