Radio 3Fourteen - How the Migrant Invasion Made Me Become a Trad Wife

00:00:00.000 Welcome. This is Lana and you're listening to 314 on the Red Ice Network. Joining me

00:00:19.340 is a talented singer-songwriter, Nicole Jorgensen. In 2008, she found her way to Heidelberg,

00:00:25.180 Germany, where she started her classical career as a soprano. We'll talk about her

00:00:29.240 experience in Germany, which led to her realization of current globalist politics,

00:00:33.820 causing her to return to North Dakota to start a family and live a simple life as her Norwegian 0.99

00:00:38.620 ancestors. The story of Nicole Jorgensen up next. Nicole Jorgensen, welcome. Thanks for being here.

00:00:45.200 Yeah, thanks for having me. All right, so you have Norwegian roots. So tell us about your

00:00:49.560 background, your Norwegian background. Yeah, sure. My family is fourth generation farmers

00:00:56.800 from Norway who emigrated to America in the beginning of the 20th century. We have roots

00:01:08.180 hailing from Bergen or Bergen on the southwest corner of Norway, but our family actually originates

00:01:19.200 from the Trondheim region and then further west into the island of Vickna.

00:01:23.380 It's beautiful up there. Yeah. Yes, it is. I was really fortunate to be able to

00:01:28.960 meet my family a few years ago during some traveling that kind of helped reconnect the family after

00:01:39.460 just about a hundred years since we emigrated. Oh, nice. So do you know the story of why they came

00:01:48.280 to America? Yeah. Um, my great grandfather Axel was, um, looking for, for land. Like I think a lot of

00:02:00.480 people were during that, uh, that great, um, immigration period. There was, uh, abundance of

00:02:11.360 property in the Dakotas. And, um, he came over with originally, uh, his, his two brothers and a sister.

00:02:22.980 And the Homestead Act in, in North Dakota particular gave people the opportunity to

00:02:32.480 homestead and build on a quarter of land. And if they were able to, uh, manage to endure the

00:02:42.100 hardships of the plains and the prairie, they were granted then that land. So he came back,

00:02:48.580 um, or he went back to Norway after, uh, a year and married my great grandmother. And, um,

00:02:58.420 they came with their firstborn. So Norwegian on both sides then. Yeah. Great. Yes. Yep. Uh-huh. Um, 1.00

00:03:07.220 and it's actually the family of the, of my great grandmother who's, so it's a maternal, um,

00:03:16.120 line that's, that's still well and living in Bergen, Norway. So then did you, is your husband

00:03:24.120 also Norwegian? Because it seems like there's pockets like Minnesota and the Dakotas where

00:03:28.340 different Scandinavian people went and they've been able to stay pretty Scandinavian in some of

00:03:32.080 those areas too. Yeah. Yes, he is. Um, he is, he has also a little bit of German background as do I.

00:03:41.220 Um, but mainly both of us, I believe are three quarters Norwegian. Um, and in the,

00:03:49.080 the city of Minot, North Dakota, there is an annual Norse Kustfest celebration every year. It's the

00:03:57.400 largest Scandinavian festival outside of Scandinavia in the world. Wow. I didn't know about that one.

00:04:04.320 Yeah. And what do they, what do they do at the festival? They celebrate our Norwegian heritage.

00:04:12.280 They celebrate, uh, different types of foods. There's a Viking reenactments, there's concerts.

00:04:19.560 I actually sang with the, the Norwegian, um, singer Sissel one year when she was visiting and it's just a

00:04:34.180 weekend celebration of, of our Scandinavian heritage. Amazingly enough. That's really cool. I love,

00:04:42.540 I love hearing that. So what is life like in the Dakotas? I know there's a lot of people who are

00:04:47.060 eyeing it because there's so much land and, uh, it's pretty white up there. So what is life like in

00:04:53.520 the Dakotas? Well, you know, I have to say both my husband and I were incredibly fortunate to grow up

00:05:02.280 in these tight knit, high trust, mainly white communities. Um, I'd really say that we grew up

00:05:12.380 in a bubble. I spent the last decade of my life overseas, um, living in abroad and large cities.

00:05:22.000 And I never realized how fortunate we were until I came back. Um, we all grew up,

00:05:36.340 nobody locked their houses, nobody locked their car doors. Luxury. Yeah. The guys would all go hunting

00:05:44.520 in the mornings and they'd drive to school with shotguns in their backs. Nobody, nobody cared or

00:05:53.480 had a worry about it. It was, uh, uh, type of accountability and, um, and trust that I just

00:06:04.120 took for granted. I thought that that's how everybody grew up.

00:06:07.980 Hmm. So then at what point did you get into singing because you're a classically trained

00:06:13.740 singer? So how did that happen? Yeah, that's, that's a interesting, um, journey. Well,

00:06:21.380 I always sang, I guess my parents tell me that I used to squeal in my crib and now that I have a son

00:06:28.680 of my own, I, I'm seeing a lot of the same tendencies. He will just, he will just call to me

00:06:35.580 from another room and really play and experiment with his voice as well. So, um, I was singing,

00:06:43.600 um, I think I had my first debut at the age of three in our little country church. And then

00:06:50.180 when I was five, I won my first country Western Jamboree. Um, and it just evolved from there.

00:06:58.420 There's actually a large culture of choral singing that goes along with, uh, a lot of the Protestant,

00:07:05.520 Norwegian Protestants that, uh, immigrated here. And that tradition, that rich tradition of,

00:07:13.200 of choral singing has been kept up in the communities. So all of our schools and, um,

00:07:20.860 a lot of churches and community in the communities still really celebrate choral singing. And so

00:07:27.840 throughout my, my adolescence and into my, um, teen years, I was, I was competing and,

00:07:37.260 and really able to, to explore some opportunities with that.

00:07:42.900 Yeah. Now you also went to Berkeley music school. I have a lot of friends that went there. They

00:07:48.360 weren't lefties before they went there. They became, they came out with, you know, just leftist

00:07:53.360 programming, you know, the Dakotas. I don't think there's a lot of lefties there. So how was that

00:07:58.440 transition when you left the Dakotas and went to Berkeley music school?

00:08:03.180 It was horrible. Yeah. Um, I got really lost, you know, I, I was so there,

00:08:12.460 I think it's worth mentioning. Um, there's a rootedness here. People are still connected to

00:08:21.140 the land and there's a respect for, um, mother nature. There's a respect for the, the cycles

00:08:31.680 and the seasons. Um, people understand that, you know, it's what you grow, you also eat. And

00:08:42.100 it's a very organic connection still. And when I moved to the cities, I was shocked at this,

00:08:49.780 uh, disconnection and I, I struggled incredibly. Um, I also struggled with the diversity and I was

00:08:58.520 the only, uh, student from the state of North Dakota struggling for a scholarship, but unable

00:09:05.520 in spite of a 4.0. Yeah. You're incredibly talented, but yeah, but your European roots,

00:09:13.540 you're not diverse enough for that scholarship, right? Yeah, exactly. It was a incredibly diverse

00:09:19.380 school. That was their agenda. I believe at the time that was when, um, Bush was invading Iraq and

00:09:29.160 I got swept up in that and was, uh, very, I remember protesting and marching in the streets of

00:09:37.360 Mass Ave in Boston. And wow, that feels like an, uh, another lifetime ago, but that, yeah,

00:09:45.780 that was the start of my, um, Marxist indoctrination in our, uh, university systems for sure.

00:09:55.220 So it got to you basically, you went there at a younger age and it seeped in there by the time

00:09:59.720 you graduated. Right. Well, I, I, I fortunately didn't graduate from there. I spent two years there

00:10:06.740 and my very, uh, logical, uh, down to earth parents said, listen, child, we'll give you two

00:10:15.780 years, but we're not going to let you get $180,000 into debt with a music degree. Yeah. I mean,

00:10:21.840 is it really worth it? Because I mean, I, like I said, I knew some musicians, I used to play in bands

00:10:26.380 and sing and stuff. They were some amazing musicians. They went to school there, they came

00:10:31.280 out and it was like that they became just formulaic musicians. They, I don't know, they lost something

00:10:36.720 that was special and unique before. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Um, I think that the study of music

00:10:44.220 can strip an artist of their, of the reason and the essence of their, of why they create,

00:10:55.520 if that makes sense, you know, it, it, it starts becoming like, yes, very formulaic and, and less, um,

00:11:03.040 less a part of the soul, unfortunately. Uh, and after two years, I was, I was very much so caught up in

00:11:15.220 the liberal agenda and trying to date a mixed race gentleman who happened to lie to me about his

00:11:24.380 entire identity. Oh, no. Oh, no. It was just like this incredibly, you know, innocent and ignorant

00:11:35.500 country girl gets, wow. The nice Scandinavian girl. Yep. Yeah. Oh, geez. So then I knew in, in 2008, 0.99

00:11:46.220 you went to Heidelberg, Germany, correct? And that's where you started your classical career as a

00:11:51.280 soprano, right? Yes, correct. Yeah. Um, that was, that was really a wonderful, uh, opportunity. I

00:11:59.860 started in the, the, um, uh, Staatsche Theater in Heidelberg as a soprano in the chorus, in the opera

00:12:09.360 chorus. Um, and I was also teaching on the, on the military base when I started out because I couldn't

00:12:15.740 speak German. Um, and as my career progressed in the opera, I, it became apparent I, I must speak this

00:12:24.600 language. And so I thought, you know, what better way to learn a culture and a people and about those

00:12:33.600 people and their language than, than by being able to speak their language. So I, I really took it to

00:12:39.660 heart and it, you know, I had incentive, you know, I needed, I needed to eat, I needed to work.

00:12:46.540 It's funny what, what you'll learn. Yeah, exactly. The incentive. So, um,

00:12:54.440 yeah, I remember in one of the rehearsals, our, our director giving, you know, conducting the,

00:13:04.460 the, the, the chorus and the, the, um, orchestra and I sang completely wrong in the wrong place.

00:13:14.940 Oh no. And it was so humiliating. Yeah, that is embarrassing.

00:13:20.540 And the Germans are so unforgiving. Oh no. That I thought, my God, I have got to learn this language. 0.86

00:13:27.780 So, um, I went, yeah, head first, headlong into that. And I just decided that's what I was going to

00:13:37.720 do. And within about, um, well also with, with the goal of wanting to get my master's in opera while I

00:13:44.900 was there and in order to obtain entry into their graduate programs, obviously you had to be a German

00:13:50.300 speaker. So the criteria for, uh, wanting work, wanting to study, wanting to be considered, um,

00:14:01.460 for, you know, possibly any, just, just wanting to be considered as a serious person. The Germans took 0.72

00:14:11.620 a lot of pride in, interestingly enough, a lot of pride in their language. So that's what I did.

00:14:20.140 I, I, I learned German, um, and it opened up quite a few doors for me initially. Um, I was,

00:14:28.280 I was able to move off of, uh, the military bases, which also was another completely new experience

00:14:34.880 for me. I had no idea what type of, uh, presence the U S still had.

00:14:40.360 Wait, you were on a military base?

00:14:42.100 I was teaching music.

00:14:44.040 Ah, okay. I see.

00:14:45.660 Yeah. Before I could speak German, I got work in addition to singing in the, in the opera,

00:14:52.740 teaching music on the military base. And there was about three or four just in the vicinity of

00:15:00.680 Heidelberg itself. So there was this incredibly strong American presence.

00:15:06.600 Which is weird, isn't it? Like, why are all these military bases just occupying Germany still to this

00:15:11.660 day? Yeah, absolutely. Yes. And that was really, I believe the beginning of my starting to ask those

00:15:19.220 types of questions. Now, when you were there, did you see lots of immigrants? Yeah. Tell us about this

00:15:24.000 process of how you started waking up to what was going on in Germany and Marxism and multiculturalism.

00:15:29.040 How did it happen for you?

00:15:30.040 Sure. Well, um, initially it was a slow indoctrination. Uh, in 2008, we'd had that crash in,

00:15:40.060 in the States. I had been farming with my brother and my father and, and made a nice little profit.

00:15:48.600 And then we had that economic crash at that time. I was flying overseas, um, to start this new

00:15:55.880 adventure. And at the time Heidelberg was also, is also a cultural hub. It's the university of

00:16:05.380 Heidelberg is, is Ivy league. It is the old, one of the oldest libraries in Europe. Um, there's an

00:16:12.880 incredible amount of, of academia and, um, the cancer research center is there. The Max Planck

00:16:22.600 Institute is there. It's, it's teeming with intellectuals. So coming from a farming community,

00:16:30.300 uh, that was also very, uh, intimidating. Yeah. I was very, I found it very interesting. Yeah. And

00:16:43.460 in 2008, it was more the Americans that were the, the main dominating presence there. As I,

00:16:56.160 as time went on, there became more and more talk of closing the bases, closing the bases. And

00:17:03.080 I was involved in, in the theater and doing a lot of work off base. So I had already

00:17:10.060 integrated relatively quickly into the German culture because of my desire to speak their

00:17:20.020 language and, um, my work in the theater. Well, as time went on, I know the Bürgermeister,

00:17:28.720 I can't remember who was the mayor at the time, started, um, sending out these plans of what they

00:17:37.740 would eventually want to do with the space that the Americans were taking up in these bases 0.82

00:17:43.620 if they, uh, closed. And I thought, okay, how interesting. Well, of course it's a university

00:17:50.120 town, so we could always, you know, use more housing for students and, and for young artists,

00:17:56.240 et cetera. And within a relatively short amount of time, I'd say from 2011 until

00:18:06.940 2015, they managed to close all of the bases, export all of the Americans. And all of a sudden, 0.69

00:18:20.300 there was an incredible amount of housing available at the same time that this refugee crisis.

00:18:31.200 Oh, what a coincidence, huh? Exactly. Exactly. And I almost couldn't believe what was happening

00:18:38.260 before my eyes. Um, I went from singing in, in Heidelberg, in Mannheim, and also then touring

00:18:49.620 and performing and performing with my own, um, ensemble in, in France and in, um, uh, Switzerland

00:18:58.240 and Austria. And, you know, with, with, uh, with a performing lifestyle, you work nights, you know?

00:19:08.460 Yeah. And never, ever did I fear for my safety being, uh, a blonde, blue-eyed Scandinavian woman. Um,

00:19:21.100 and slowly but surely as the, as this transition was made, um, in the last two years, I'd say that I

00:19:30.440 was there, I started to see a, a significant, a marked increase in, um, um, you know, peoples of

00:19:41.880 Northern African descent and a lot more, um, women wearing, um, uh, burqas and jobs. Yeah. A lot of 0.94

00:19:52.860 people said it felt like it was overnight, like someone just opened the doors and all of a sudden

00:19:57.060 there's all these people everywhere, you know, these non-Europeans everywhere. Yeah. It really 1.00

00:20:02.080 literally was. And, um, I also did martial arts with, uh, pretty serious, um, group of guys who

00:20:12.100 were like my brothers. And it was so strange that I started noticing these things and I really found

00:20:18.620 that it was only in small circles that one was able to discuss these, these dynamics. Um,

00:20:27.060 and in my martial arts circle was one of them. I, I was able to, and they encouraged it and said,

00:20:35.200 you be careful and you learn how to defend yourself because this isn't going away. And the

00:20:40.360 news isn't covering it. We don't know why, but there's mobs of, there had been an increase in

00:20:47.020 violence with Turkish, young Turkish mobs of men, um, attacking Germans. And that had already been

00:20:55.780 quite a hot item, political item with all of the Turks that had, um, come into Germany and were

00:21:03.260 unwilling to learn their language and still wanting to drain from their social system. And then what did 0.71

00:21:10.940 they do? They opened the floodgates and all of a sudden I was being stalked on the, um, on the

00:21:18.540 Straßenbahn on the street car and had to run into a pizzeria to tell the locals, please, this man is

00:21:28.440 following me. I'm frightened for my safety. Yeah. And now most of the pizzerias, at least in Sweden

00:21:34.700 are, are owned by, uh, immigrants to pizzerias and kebab shops everywhere. Yeah. It's awful. 1.00

00:21:41.880 Yeah. And it's been, um, an ongoing conversation with friends of mine that are still there. Um,

00:21:48.360 especially women who, you know, we didn't, we didn't think twice about riding our bikes home 0.99

00:21:55.360 at night. You know, none of us had a car. It's Europe. I mean, it's this great, all these cities

00:22:01.600 were built before the automobile. So we were all riding our bikes or, um, taking walks and three

00:22:08.520 o'clock in the morning. And, um, you know, one of my girlfriends who is actually from South Africa

00:22:14.060 just went back to South Africa because she said she feels safer there. Oh no, that's amazing. I mean, 0.99

00:22:22.760 well, that's most dangerous countries in the world. Right. Yeah. Oh my God. She said, you know,

00:22:31.480 when you're walking through the airport and there's, um, a man, a drunken Arab screaming in 1.00

00:22:38.340 Arabic at the top of his lungs and you don't know what he's saying, you're, you don't feel very safe. 0.99

00:22:46.220 And it's just funny how they try and tell Germans who are, you know, such high culture in Germany and

00:22:51.800 they're just such innovative people who have brought us so many things. And then they say,

00:22:55.920 oh, well, they need cultural enrichment from these Africans and Muslims. I mean, it's just outrageous. 1.00

00:23:02.300 It's audacious, you know? Well, I mean, you were traveling in the circles, you know,

00:23:05.600 classical music scene tends to be, you know, some of the elites, some of the upper class. Now I have

00:23:11.180 friends that are also professional musicians, a friend who's probably listening and professional

00:23:15.760 violinist. And she always talks about how it's just tons of lefties now in the classical music

00:23:21.560 scene. Maybe it's always been that way. And some of these things she tries to talk to and she's, 0.75

00:23:25.580 she's pretty much all on her own when she tries to bring up some of these conversations.

00:23:29.060 Now, what did you find amongst the elite in Germany and were they talking or noticing any

00:23:35.400 of these things? I don't know how a lot of these upper class elites can feel good about seeing all

00:23:39.040 these third worlders in their town, you know? You know, that's a really interesting question to

00:23:45.360 bring up. There's a couple of different sides to that. In and of itself, I became disillusioned with

00:23:53.660 the, with the music industry. I just decided that, um, that wasn't necessarily what I thought it was

00:24:04.860 going to be. And I, I think for good measure, I, I loved the time I spent in, um, in classical music,

00:24:16.160 but I noticed that the productions were becoming more and more graphic. I noticed that the theater

00:24:23.460 was using more and more nudity and vulgarity. I noticed that the staging was similar from

00:24:31.820 Frankfurt to Heidelberg to Berlin. And I just could not get on board with, uh,

00:24:43.960 nudity on stage. I don't care what the, the, um, the rhetoric is, you know,

00:24:51.100 kind of more like a Weimar Republic. I don't know if you've looked into what was going on then or

00:24:56.440 just total degenerate art. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, like Berlin was the hodgepodge in the thirties.

00:25:04.960 And, um, and I said to myself, okay, if that's the price I need to pay to go on stage and to be a

00:25:13.680 leading act, then that isn't, um, worth it. That isn't worth it. I'm worth more than that.

00:25:21.360 A lot of the other experiences I had, um, were younger singers, um, being exploited by producers

00:25:30.020 or, you know, Hey, just whatever they could get away with. And, you know, so after I put my foot

00:25:38.040 down and I said, I won't be performing with, you know, under these and these circumstances,

00:25:43.180 then I kind of, I kind of, um, found myself out of work a little bit. And that's actually what led

00:25:52.440 me into the other direction of the healing arts and integrative medicine. Um, because I just was

00:26:00.160 unwilling to, uh, yeah, it's frightening when you realize that the arts is just completely

00:26:08.120 infiltrated and run by Marxists. I mean, it is, and we have to create our own arts. And that's

00:26:14.120 why I'm happy to see that amongst the alts, right? Meeting all kinds of talented people such as

00:26:17.720 yourself, which is good because we need a cultural, our own kind of resurgence of culture and high

00:26:23.120 culture. Again, the other thing I hear from, uh, friends that perform in the orchestra is that

00:26:28.580 they're saying white people aren't attending as much anymore to the symphony and the orchestra,

00:26:33.380 uh, and Asians are starting to attend and Asians are even starting to play in the orchestras. I don't 1.00

00:26:40.160 know if you've had any experience with that. Oh, yes. It was a huge problem in the chorus. Most of our

00:26:46.320 chorus was Korean. And I'm not sure if, well, this part of the bone structure of a singer's face

00:26:57.680 makes up for what they call the mask. Um, and the resonance and the vibrations of the mask of the,

00:27:04.420 the sinus cavities and of your different, um, facial bones create a different, um, brighter,

00:27:14.360 you can have a brighter mask, you have a darker mask, you know, depending on, on your technique

00:27:18.380 and, uh, a typical Korean, this is going to be so politically incorrect. 0.55

00:27:24.820 They have stumpy little noses and flatter faces.

00:27:29.680 They have, they have a larger head and there's more room for resonance there, but it isn't

00:27:35.760 necessarily that just because a person, um, can make a big sound doesn't mean it's more beautiful.

00:27:43.300 Yeah. And so one of the problems we were running into in the chorus is that we had these giant

00:27:49.240 voices that were, they were unable or they weren't used to, um, the finer, the refining their sound

00:28:02.760 to fit in with everyone else. It was like everybody was trying to be a solo act in a chorus,

00:28:07.980 if that makes sense. And that doesn't work. No, it doesn't. And what language would they

00:28:13.260 be singing in? Was it in English or German? These, the Koreans? Well, whatever, um, you know, 1.00

00:28:19.080 whatever work that we were performing at the time, if, if it was Verdi or, or Puccini or, you know,

00:28:25.980 Italian or, or German, just depended on the work that we were doing. And that normally wasn't an

00:28:31.200 issue, but it was an issue in the music schools because most German Musikhochschule only has so

00:28:40.560 many places available based upon how many, um, opera houses there are, which makes sense. There's 200

00:28:50.700 opera houses in, in Germany in comparison to what, I don't know, maybe 20 some in the U S.

00:28:58.540 Yeah. So they have their universities, at least there's a little bit of logic in that regard.

00:29:05.900 You know, here we just encourage kids to go and throw thousands of dollars into an education where

00:29:12.020 they are not guaranteed a job. And, um, there it was dependent upon the open seats or spots in the

00:29:20.760 opera houses. And most of them were being filled by Asians. 1.00

00:29:26.040 Oh, that's just so sad. So sad. And then, you know, if you go to San Francisco and you go to

00:29:32.520 the symphony, there's plenty of Asians performing. I'm like, how is that not cultural appropriation?

00:29:37.340 People are trying to deny that classical music is from Europeans now.

00:29:41.880 Right. Right.

00:29:44.200 Yeah. It's interesting. You brought up about the resonance and the face and singing and bone

00:29:49.040 structure. That must be why I heard a Barbra Streisand because she has a fairly large nose. 1.00

00:29:54.000 That's why she never wanted to get a nose job because it would completely change the sound. 0.99

00:29:58.740 Right. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, people will talk about that all the time. And

00:30:03.320 in pop music, one of the reasons why there has to be such a high turnover rate is because

00:30:09.220 the amount of the incredible amount of pressure and strain that's put not only on the vocal

00:30:14.500 chords, but on the on the on the schedules of the singers, I mean, from Adele to Keith Urban to I

00:30:23.980 mean, the list goes on and on of of those who have had to have surgery because there's just it's just

00:30:31.980 not natural. You're not supposed to be be performing that much.

00:30:35.080 Right. Exactly. They're expendable.

00:30:39.640 So and also you've done more of a modern song we're going to play later. Got to clear my head.

00:30:44.920 We'll end the show with that. So tell us about that music that you're doing now that's up on SoundCloud.

00:30:50.820 Oh, sure. Yeah. So I guess I was always a little bit torn between this classical world and my.

00:30:59.080 My. You know, my American country ranching and cowboy upbringing, this this connection to the land has

00:31:12.640 has been such a gift. It's it's given me the ability to to stay grounded and to stay rooted in spite of all of

00:31:24.360 that. You know, the media can be so charming. They can be so persuasive with their messages.

00:31:34.440 I even when I went to Berkeley, I remember watching music videos for the first time and thinking.

00:31:43.420 No, you didn't miss much. Right. You know, and thinking that's how women acted. 1.00

00:31:50.440 Thinking that that was. The norm and that I didn't have any idea how to act around men.

00:31:59.600 And. Oh, it's it's just it's a.

00:32:04.400 It is so incredible that I was able to find my way back.

00:32:09.640 And I I give credit to my my rootedness and growing up on a farm and a ranch, working with my hands,

00:32:19.240 you know, working with my family alongside my family and riding horse and rounding up cattle and fun.

00:32:29.720 And, you know, yeah, I can ride, too. I used to do dressage and jumping, but I can't go after cattle.

00:32:37.040 Oh, I can't rope any cattle. You could probably rope cattle, right?

00:32:41.360 Yeah, I'm not the best roper, but my husband is is pretty handy with a rope.

00:32:46.400 And, you know, that's actually my first memory of him.

00:32:50.700 We we grew up not too terribly far apart from one another, but he went to a different school and I knew of him, but never really knew him.

00:33:02.500 And my first memory is maybe when I was 12 or 14 at a at a local neighbor's cattle branding.

00:33:11.020 And we were all rounding up their herd on the on the refuge.

00:33:15.020 And I remember this this pretty cute, shy guy on a horse and they were, you know, that was gosh, I don't want to date myself exactly.

00:33:29.320 But, you know, that was a while ago.

00:33:31.840 And to this day, he's still got that very calm, gentle hand with with a horse and and our dogs and now our son.

00:33:43.200 Yeah. Being outside, being in nature is so important.

00:33:45.880 I spend way too much time in front of the computer.

00:33:47.760 I think a lot of us do in this modern day kind of lifestyle now.

00:33:52.240 Yeah.

00:33:52.780 And the ultra ride taking part in propaganda wars and everyone's making videos.

00:33:56.620 We're inside so much, but it is good to get outside and maybe grow some food.

00:34:01.440 It's very healing.

00:34:02.460 I think that's the one thing that always sets me right when I feel down from everything else.

00:34:07.000 Just go outside and you always feel better in nature.

00:34:10.580 Yeah, absolutely.

00:34:11.700 And that leads me directly into the songwriting.

00:34:14.920 I think the poetry of the West and the.

00:34:20.200 You know, the history of American composers, Aaron Copeland, for instance,

00:34:28.320 is the American folk song is something that that is is slowly dying.

00:34:36.160 And I was fortunate to have a wonderful mentor in my youth in music that encouraged my my songwriting and my writing in general.

00:34:48.140 And also really, really loved the American folk song.

00:34:54.920 So I grew up singing and doing some competitions in American folk songs strictly in that category, learning the history and learning the heritage.

00:35:07.300 And so it was like a natural progression for me to write and on the prairies and in the in the Dakotas, especially the winters are so isolating and they're so brutal.

00:35:19.980 You have to figure out what you're going to do.

00:35:23.740 It's dark by four.

00:35:26.400 It's usually 30 below.

00:35:29.780 And, you know, you you're the wind is blowing most of the time.

00:35:35.700 So what a lot of families do is make music.

00:35:40.100 Yeah, because they're inside, they have to entertain each other.

00:35:43.560 And in the old days, they didn't have electricity that they did.

00:35:46.380 They told stories.

00:35:47.360 They sang.

00:35:48.700 Exactly.

00:35:49.840 Yeah, absolutely.

00:35:51.260 So, you know, I was always kind of my quest to to figure out or to find my niche.

00:35:59.560 You know, I had a lot of people say, well, you need to decide between classical.

00:36:02.700 You need to decide between country or you need to decide between folk.

00:36:06.240 And I had such a difficult time with that because they were all a part of me.

00:36:11.860 I mean, historically speaking, obviously, I was drawn to classical music.

00:36:18.360 That's a part of my ancestral heritage.

00:36:20.620 Yeah.

00:36:21.400 You know, and then even more recently, the the the folk singing and the the storytelling really what which is what.

00:36:33.540 American folk and country Western music is and is rooted in is also a part of my ancestry.

00:36:41.020 So it evolved into a sort of journey that that brought me to Europe and that brought me to to continue composing and to continue not being satisfied with the cultural norm.

00:37:08.460 I was never comfortable in that expendable, you know, pop entertainment industry.

00:37:19.900 Yeah, it's awful.

00:37:21.160 I've always just hated it ever since I was a young girl.

00:37:24.180 I never liked the pop music, the hip hop music. 0.96

00:37:27.300 It's all just trashy.

00:37:28.640 I don't like any of it.

00:37:29.840 And I, I really tried.

00:37:32.060 I really tried.

00:37:33.060 But I found myself so alienated and so alone and so.

00:37:37.880 I'm having a hard time finding, you know, a way to really put it into words.

00:37:46.420 I just it didn't fit.

00:37:48.800 And I tried to fit myself in to that mold and I was incredibly unhappy.

00:37:56.260 Yeah, it's awful.

00:37:56.820 So fortunately, I think that was some some kind of inner compass, an inner guide that just said, listen, you, you don't need to be that person.

00:38:09.620 Yeah, I went through that actually in my early 20s.

00:38:14.220 I was in L.A. and I always liked more alternative music or electronica.

00:38:18.800 My brother's a producer, mixer engineer.

00:38:20.820 So we did a lot of projects together.

00:38:22.400 And I when I was living in L.A., I knew a lot of people that were A&R people for a lot of the major labels.

00:38:27.780 Like they were my friends.

00:38:28.880 We hung out and they always tried to get me to do do projects and saying and I did a couple.

00:38:34.560 And then they'd say, oh, you know, you have to change your hair or you need to wear this or you need to sound like this or something like that.

00:38:41.240 It was miserable.

00:38:42.080 I hated it.

00:38:42.640 Just walked away from all that.

00:38:43.760 So I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:38:45.160 It's awful.

00:38:46.380 Yeah, that's it's really thanks.

00:38:48.320 That's really nice to have that reciprocated and hear that to be acknowledged because I also was on the voice of Germany before I left Germany.

00:38:56.940 Um, and I, I did the, you know, I was, I did the live audition and, um, just the amount of the expected degeneracy, you know, was shocking.

00:39:15.780 I, you know, overall, I have to say I'm, I'm, I'm grateful for the experience because it really woke what was part of my awakening in realizing that's not for me.

00:39:30.600 And I am too honest to be in that business.

00:39:35.480 One thing when it comes to music, I have to say, I think Europeans were the most diverse.

00:39:39.900 I mean, think of all the different styles that we've created, whereas when you go to Asia or Africa or the Middle East, it's, it's kind of, it's the same sound really.

00:39:48.460 Or you go to India, it's the same kind of sound.

00:39:50.960 You go to, you know, Europe and America, we've created so many different genres, haven't we?

00:39:57.200 Yeah.

00:39:58.080 Oh, absolutely.

00:39:59.100 Um, and that was really part of my, um, starting to feel like I was a part of something bigger was when I, I learned my, um, German, my native German language and got to know the, the thinking.

00:40:21.900 Because when you speak a different language, you think differently, you relate differently.

00:40:28.480 And we've become so far removed from our roots, from our rootedness, from our ancestors, from understanding that we're a part of a line.

00:40:37.680 We're part of a struggle.

00:40:39.860 We're part of a lot of, um, sacrifice that all of our forefathers and, and those that came before us endured in, in ways that we can't imagine.

00:40:54.380 You know, I, I still, when this last winter in North Dakota was incredibly hard.

00:41:00.320 We had more snowstorms, more snowfall, and, and more frigid temperatures than I think in the last 20 years.

00:41:09.860 And I think to myself, look at all of the amenities we have, the internet, the connection, the, the radio programs, you know, the internet connection.

00:41:25.140 The pioneers had none of that.

00:41:27.460 And when they left on a ship, they maybe got a letter.

00:41:32.940 Maybe they had a chest from home and they survived.

00:41:36.880 And I think, how important is it for us to remember the type of strength in that lineage?

00:41:45.440 That is right.

00:41:46.220 They were, they were tough people.

00:41:47.900 And we have to remember too, that many of the settlers that came to America, it was, um, upwards of half died trying to settle, settle this land.

00:41:57.500 Half.

00:41:57.880 So there was no white privilege.

00:41:59.380 No one just gave them anything.

00:42:01.200 They had to do everything from scratch, created everything from scratch, or they would die.

00:42:05.920 No one helped them.

00:42:07.180 Right.

00:42:07.860 Absolutely.

00:42:08.560 I cannot imagine getting through a winter in, under those circumstances and having to build shelter and find water and, and food.

00:42:20.100 And, um, that has been also a big part of my, just, rejection of, um, the left.

00:42:32.380 Because nobody gave our ancestors, and my ancestors in particular, any handouts.

00:42:38.800 They fought and struggled and prevailed.

00:42:42.000 And I think that we have a right to be proud of that and be proud of that, um, history.

00:42:49.980 It's interesting too.

00:42:51.000 It makes sense now why we know that socialism arose in the Nordic countries, because it really stems from an old survival thing, helping each other survive those long, harsh winters.

00:43:00.260 And everyone had the same kind of work ethic.

00:43:02.660 They, they thought the same way.

00:43:04.020 They had a, the same mentality.

00:43:05.860 So it actually worked.

00:43:07.740 Mm-hmm.

00:43:08.400 Mm-hmm.

00:43:09.220 Exactly.

00:43:10.040 Absolutely.

00:43:10.420 I still, you know, um, since moving back home to the States from Germany, I'm still getting used to that, um, that jovial spirit, that, uh, willingness to help.

00:43:25.960 You know, if somebody is broke down on the highway, people will still stop here and ask if they can help.

00:43:31.360 Or, you know, I was snowed in, and I called my neighbor, and he came over with his tractor to blow out my driveway.

00:43:36.680 And, and then I baked a banana bread and brought it over for coffee.

00:43:41.180 Oh, that's sweet.

00:43:43.040 That's just still really a part of the culture here.

00:43:46.120 And, um, unfortunately, because of the influx of, um, not influx, the, the overtake of the German country by foreigners, people are too afraid to look you in the eye.

00:44:02.080 And, and, and I noticed that when I was there, too, it's actually several European countries recently where it's, people don't even interact with each other anymore.

00:44:09.880 That's what multiculturalism does.

00:44:11.780 It, and people cut off because things become sketchy.

00:44:15.640 People don't interact the same way anymore.

00:44:18.120 Yeah, it's, it's a, it's sad to see that happen.

00:44:20.420 It is, and it's, it's very isolating.

00:44:23.280 And, interestingly enough, what I find so, I, it makes me laugh.

00:44:31.300 People, um, segregate naturally.

00:44:36.100 And in Heidelberg, there were sections that were Turkish.

00:44:40.760 There were sections and enclaves that were Russian.

00:44:44.080 There were sections that were Persian.

00:44:46.940 Um, and there was nothing wrong with that.

00:44:51.640 Nobody had, uh, uh, a problem with that.

00:44:56.400 It's, it's how people naturally want to gravitate towards their own.

00:45:03.100 That's right.

00:45:04.180 Um, but if that would be reported or, or even just touched upon in any kind of a positive manner,

00:45:12.100 I've just, I've just, I've just had to, had to learn to take everything with a grain of salt

00:45:18.460 because, um, that kind of natural, uh, segregation is, is blown out of proportion.

00:45:26.600 And, you know, after moving back home to the Dakotas, where we have a strong populate,

00:45:32.560 native population.

00:45:33.560 And I, um, moved back for, for a teaching position on the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation

00:45:42.400 to a school that's segregated in 1975.

00:45:48.620 It was a hundred percent native.

00:45:51.400 Yeah.

00:45:51.680 They're allowed to have that, aren't they?

00:45:53.660 Yeah, exactly.

00:45:55.020 And I was floored, uh, because the, the story surrounding it is just as interesting.

00:46:01.920 The majority of the native community didn't want the segregation.

00:46:06.820 There was a few families that were for it when AIM, the American Indian movement came in,

00:46:11.540 trying to convince them that they needed to be liberated and have their own, in their own school.

00:46:18.560 Uh, the farming communities and the, the primarily Northern European, uh, farmers in that area

00:46:28.960 all had gone to that school pre, prior to 1975.

00:46:32.980 It was a very successful, um, community.

00:46:38.660 And once that decision was made, the natives, the, the elders still talked and said,

00:46:46.800 we fought and told them this will set us back a hundred years.

00:46:50.320 Interesting. So they didn't, they didn't, they wanted to be blended in with everyone else.

00:46:56.920 Huh? Oh, interesting. Cause usually most of the Indians that I've encountered, you know, 1.00

00:47:00.420 growing up in Oregon, there's lots of Indian reservations.

00:47:02.860 They're, they're kind of hostile towards white people.

00:47:05.560 You know, they don't like them around. 0.81

00:47:07.340 They don't want to live with them.

00:47:08.600 So, you know, sounds like they're different up there.

00:47:10.820 Well, Arikara, the Arikara tribe was very, one of the most, um, generous and gracious tribes.

00:47:18.880 Uh, it's, it's pretty well documented.

00:47:21.220 And, um, that the Saanish nation or the Arikara nation was, was a very gentle and gracious, um, hospitable tribe.

00:47:31.360 They ended up having to band together, um, with the Mandana and Hidatsa because they were being,

00:47:38.900 they were being hunted and slaughtered so mercilessly by the Sioux.

00:47:45.480 That's just it.

00:47:46.640 These Indians were slaughtering each other long before we showed up. 1.00

00:47:50.620 Right. Um, that they were close to the brink of extinction, um, before the, before General Custer and, um,

00:48:04.220 the American Calvary came in.

00:48:06.740 And so, yeah, there, there is that narrative now with this Dakota Access Pipeline,

00:48:14.400 things have blown out, been completely blown out of proportion.

00:48:17.740 Yeah, I don't know much about that.

00:48:19.020 What can you tell us about it?

00:48:20.160 It makes me incredibly angry and sad.

00:48:31.620 And I have to say the year that I spent teaching on the reservation was, was eye-opening and,

00:48:43.020 um, heartbreaking, all in one.

00:48:49.080 I had no idea what was going on in my own backyard, so to speak.

00:48:54.140 I mean, the reservation is, what, an hour and a half, two hours away from where I grew up.

00:48:59.000 So, the, the alcoholism, the abuse, the neglect, the drug addiction, the, the utter, um, waste, wastefulness.

00:49:13.320 I was, I was shocked.

00:49:16.420 I absolutely adored the children, but those children were being raised by children.

00:49:22.660 These, um, the addiction is so rampant and the sexual abuse is so high.

00:49:30.940 It's crippling. 0.69

00:49:32.480 I just, I know, and white people get blamed for that a lot of the time, you know, you know,

00:49:40.140 and I just, yeah, I, I, I didn't understand when I went in.

00:49:44.160 I was really looked on with a lot of suspicion, but for me, you know, I was still living in

00:49:51.040 my little liberal leftist bubble thinking that I, you know, was just colorless, you know,

00:49:57.560 and that they were just gonna love me for who I was, and it was a harsh reality.

00:50:07.420 I did love those kids and tried to just be there for them because they didn't have any

00:50:13.220 adults that were positive role models.

00:50:15.780 They didn't have anybody that was, wasn't, uh, drunk and that wasn't not only on drinking

00:50:27.060 alcohol, but also using.

00:50:29.400 And so I had not only a lot of fetal alcohol children, but a lot of children that had been

00:50:35.740 born, um, while their parents were taking meth.

00:50:38.920 What do you think is the root cause for all of this?

00:50:41.400 You know, cause a lot of times people want to blame the white people that came over, but

00:50:45.440 we know, uh, the history of America is much more complex over who was here first.

00:50:50.220 I mean, we can debate that for, uh, for a long time, but why didn't the Indians open 1.00

00:50:54.680 their arms to multiculturalism, right?

00:50:56.660 A lot of white people say that it was wrong back then for whites to migrate over here.

00:51:00.420 But then today when the same thing's being done to us, all of a sudden it's okay.

00:51:04.800 But what do you think is the root cause of what's affecting a lot of Indians with their

00:51:09.260 addiction and abuse?

00:51:11.040 Where does it stem from?

00:51:12.020 Look, any, any, in the history of the world, you know, in Rome, in any civilization that

00:51:22.180 has been invaded, normally, um, those people, A, aren't allowed to live or they assimilate. 1.00

00:51:30.920 But it's never been the case that, uh, a major, um, civilization has gone in and conquered and

00:51:40.480 just said, Hey, you're going to let, be able to live the way you were able to before.

00:51:46.580 Never in the history of the world has that been the case.

00:51:50.220 History is full of stories of conquest and invasion.

00:51:53.100 Yes.

00:51:54.020 Right.

00:51:54.420 And I believe that is a natural, um, that is, that is a natural part of man.

00:52:01.760 We have tried to separate ourselves from that, but we just have ongoing, uh, uh, virtual warfare

00:52:10.860 that's excruciating and nothing ever really gets completed.

00:52:15.520 Um, in this instance, these people carry incredible generational scars.

00:52:23.100 Unfortunately, they've been made, um, they, they've been enabled by our federal government

00:52:32.660 to continue this dialect of victimhood.

00:52:38.000 And this, this dialect of victimhood has done nothing but breed helplessness, breed blaming,

00:52:48.280 and breed, uh, sense of, um, not wanting to take responsibility.

00:52:57.980 Yeah.

00:52:58.480 It's basically, they get a, a, what is it?

00:53:00.980 A basic guaranteed income.

00:53:02.960 I know a lot of Indians get that from the government and it's actually been a downfall in a lot of 1.00

00:53:06.760 ways.

00:53:06.980 This welfare means the same thing as we've seen in, in the black community. 1.00

00:53:10.020 It's the exact same thing.

00:53:10.940 So it's interesting though, that we get to called all these names when usually in the

00:53:14.860 past people invaded exactly, they would just full on genocide or destroy people that didn't

00:53:19.620 assimilate.

00:53:20.140 And here we are, we, you're giving, we're giving them money and trying to prop them up

00:53:24.960 and give them land.

00:53:25.920 And it's still not working.

00:53:27.900 Right.

00:53:28.280 It's a modern day, uh, experiment in socialism that has failed.

00:53:33.940 That has failed so miserably that these, these people's children's children are still unable

00:53:42.860 to function outside of the reservation and inside the reservation.

00:53:47.960 Anybody that does become successful is usually beaten up or robbed or, um, you know, wants,

00:53:55.220 wanted, they want to tear them down or they just simply have to leave.

00:54:00.220 Yep.

00:54:00.560 And this is, this is a good lesson of why multiculturalism fails. 0.96

00:54:03.940 Right.

00:54:04.280 We all try to live together.

00:54:05.700 We all try to make everyone live in the same way.

00:54:08.160 And it's failed.

00:54:09.280 This is what happens when, I mean, the Indians have lost touch with their roots.

00:54:12.480 They don't even know how to do things that their ancestors used to do.

00:54:15.100 They probably don't even know some of the stories anymore.

00:54:17.460 We kind of have these mythical ideas, you know, a lot of white people will go to these Indian 0.99

00:54:21.820 reservations and smoke peyote and try and go for this, like I'm finding enlightenment

00:54:26.740 and stuff, but it isn't that romantic on most Indian reservations today, unfortunately.

00:54:31.740 Once you get a good look at all of the trash and the garbage and the, the holes and car

00:54:40.120 windows and the, I remember, um, a few of the newer houses that had been put up on regular

00:54:49.660 basis.

00:54:50.060 There's some new houses that are, that are brought onto the reservation.

00:54:53.660 And, um, one of them had a hole cut in the wall with the bathtub filled up.

00:55:01.240 So the horse could stick his head in to have a drink.

00:55:05.820 There you go.

00:55:07.720 The other thing that I find sad is it's a lot of the Indians or, uh, even Mexicans that come, 1.00

00:55:17.700 it doesn't matter where, where they come from.

00:55:19.080 They always gravitate to rap music too.

00:55:22.040 Like that African rap, hip hop music. 0.97

00:55:26.400 It's just, what is that?

00:55:27.860 Very much so.

00:55:29.700 I think, I think it's, uh, grasping for, um, some type of acceptance, some type of identity.

00:55:39.200 Everybody wants to feel a part of something, right?

00:55:43.520 Everybody wants to feel a part of a group.

00:55:45.920 And that's one of the downfalls, unfortunately, of this multicultural agenda. 1.00

00:55:50.380 People are rootless.

00:55:53.680 They aren't associating with their group or, or with, um, having any, growing up with any

00:56:00.500 knowledge of their ancestral lines.

00:56:04.300 So, you know, well, what, which group looks more, most like me?

00:56:09.100 Well, I guess that group does.

00:56:10.500 So I'm going to try and listen to their music.

00:56:12.720 Yeah, that's what I should do.

00:56:14.180 Cause that's hip.

00:56:16.600 I think too, it's kind of something tribal about it.

00:56:19.380 They're looking for some kind of tribe and it's very base level.

00:56:23.300 Hip hop music is very simple.

00:56:24.960 It's works on kind of the lower chakra, if you will.

00:56:28.620 You know, it's really basic.

00:56:30.980 Right.

00:56:31.660 Yeah, absolutely.

00:56:32.980 You know, and there's, there's a lot of, um, there are quite a few, uh, powwows and powwow

00:56:40.680 music is really celebrated.

00:56:41.980 And I, you know, go for it.

00:56:44.160 Everybody that can celebrate their own tribe and, in a, in a way that is, um, you know,

00:56:52.360 individual and specific to them.

00:56:54.120 I am all for that.

00:56:56.380 Unfortunately, a lot of the times what happens at powwows is people end up just throwing all

00:57:02.120 their trash and garbage on the ground and for it being in order, it doesn't coincide with

00:57:09.180 that whole, um, this is sacred, holy ground when everybody's throwing all their garbage 0.84

00:57:15.400 and trash.

00:57:16.520 Yeah. 0.96

00:57:18.040 Jeez.

00:57:19.200 No, are you, go ahead.

00:57:21.320 Are you guys getting an influx of refugees in the Dakotas?

00:57:24.760 Cause I'm hearing reports from Idaho and a lot of those other, you know, uh, pockets

00:57:29.120 that are, that are very white and rural that they're getting refugees.

00:57:34.540 Yes.

00:57:35.860 Yes.

00:57:36.560 And then we're being targeted in unprecedented ways.

00:57:42.260 And in the last two to five years, I would say the Lutheran social services has done its

00:57:52.000 absolute best to import, uh, Somalians and North Africans into, um, into the Dakotas. 0.83

00:58:03.560 And it's, as far as I know, Fargo, which is our largest city, the crime rate went up 25%

00:58:12.460 in one year.

00:58:14.020 Um, and now going into Walmart, um, I, last time I checked was one of two white people.

00:58:25.380 Oh, geez.

00:58:26.780 And I thought to myself, you've got to be kidding.

00:58:30.580 And I have married, uh, a man of Scandinavian heritage and we now have a son and, um, we're

00:58:38.960 all fair and have blue eyes and every single person cannot leave that baby alone and comments

00:58:48.520 on his eyes and how beautiful and, oh my goodness.

00:58:51.720 And I think to myself, okay, thank you.

00:58:55.460 First of all, you know, thanks.

00:58:57.600 Yes.

00:58:57.960 I love my son and I think he's beautiful too, but everybody wants to talk about there not

00:59:04.440 being a preference and we're all colorblind and this and that, and there, it not being

00:59:09.680 any type of, of, um, preferred beauty.

00:59:14.880 Yeah.

00:59:15.060 Ideal beauties. 0.52

00:59:15.940 Yeah.

00:59:16.660 And I just, it's just blatantly not the case.

00:59:21.340 It's interesting too, how you, you travel, I'm well-traveled.

00:59:24.840 I know you are too.

00:59:25.600 You go to other countries where, you know, the majority of the world is not white. 0.90

00:59:30.200 The majority of the world has brown eyes.

00:59:32.800 So for that sake, you know, Europeans are unique because of what, what we have, what

00:59:37.560 we're rare because you don't find blonde and blue all around the world.

00:59:41.080 That's why I think it's coveted and people are so fascinated by it because it's, it's

00:59:45.220 rare.

00:59:45.700 It's special.

00:59:46.400 And then here we are, you know, we're getting hit with this anti-white propaganda that white 0.98

00:59:51.480 is boring. 0.99

00:59:52.820 Blonde is boring. 1.00

00:59:54.380 We need to be spicy. 0.93

00:59:55.960 We need to mix it out.

00:59:57.380 Right.

00:59:57.580 You know, it's like, there's people across the world who covet blonde and blue.

01:00:02.600 They would love to have that.

01:00:04.240 And then our own people who are that are hating themselves and wanting to, to lose that and

01:00:10.160 blend in just to look like everybody else.

01:00:12.740 Yeah, absolutely.

01:00:14.020 And I mean, I even had students on the reservation who were using blue contacts and wanting blue

01:00:23.100 eyes.

01:00:23.860 And I, myself personally didn't ever understand why I had such feelings of, um, you know, self

01:00:33.580 loathing, not understanding why, even though I knew that I was an attractive female, I felt

01:00:41.940 bad that I was attractive.

01:00:43.480 That made sense.

01:00:45.380 Yeah.

01:00:45.860 Right.

01:00:46.140 And I did, I would do my hair and my makeup and, and in, in early, I had, uh, a very difficult

01:00:56.820 time accepting my own beauty because I felt like I was somehow, and I didn't understand

01:01:04.960 why, you know, this went on throughout my teens and my twenties, um, why I felt ashamed that

01:01:13.620 I was, uh, white, Northern European, female, and attractive.

01:01:21.680 Jeez.

01:01:22.200 Yeah.

01:01:23.480 Yeah.

01:01:23.700 Yeah.

01:01:24.060 Marxism, I think it really is a war on beauty.

01:01:27.340 They've targeted groups that are, that are beautiful, that are intelligent, that are capable

01:01:32.180 and trying to guilt them, guilt them, you know, to feel bad for being and having what they have

01:01:38.540 so that they want to surrender to this kind of, this blob, this melting pot, you know, and

01:01:45.500 just give everything away.

01:01:47.540 It's, it's awful.

01:01:49.020 Absolutely.

01:01:49.460 And I, unfortunately, you know, the mentor that I talked about that helped foster so much

01:01:55.540 of my musical development was unfortunately, um, an incredible liberal feminist and was so, 0.95

01:02:08.620 uh, derogatory and, and, um, demeaning to my development as, uh, as a woman.

01:02:19.460 As a proud and healthy young woman, I struggled incredibly in my twenties and almost lost to

01:02:29.880 the, the, the cultural Marxist war and agenda.

01:02:35.720 Um, I really tried to do everything I could, you know, to fit in and to be more spicy and

01:02:41.780 to, you know, tan my skin darker and to listen to more, um, diversified.

01:02:49.460 And, um, you know, really swallowed that whole rhetoric that I had, um, never had the, the

01:03:01.180 opportunities that men had and I was being discriminated against.

01:03:05.700 I really believed that for a long time, you know, and it wasn't until I, um, I met my husband

01:03:12.580 and we, gosh, are of the same background and had the same struggles and really started opening

01:03:23.900 my eyes to, wow, I've never been happier with somebody that's like me.

01:03:31.360 And it's, it's okay to be around, um, and to celebrate my, my ethnic heritage to continue,

01:03:41.920 to want to continue my family line.

01:03:44.700 I always wanted children that looked like me.

01:03:48.360 I didn't ever understand that, but I used to say, you know, yeah, I'd really love blonde

01:03:54.060 haired, blue eyed babies.

01:03:55.040 Of course.

01:03:56.120 And I'd kind of have to say it under my breath because I felt bad.

01:04:01.220 It was, you know, come on, it's, it's in all of our, um, all of our education system is

01:04:08.080 just riddled with this rhetoric.

01:04:09.800 Yeah.

01:04:09.960 And that is proof right there of an anti-white agenda when they're literally trying to make

01:04:14.360 white women such as yourself guilty for wanting to procreate and duplicate yourself. 1.00

01:04:19.960 Exactly. 0.88

01:04:21.740 You know, and I look at how close I came to it almost working and I see myself as a success

01:04:30.480 story.

01:04:31.360 Absolutely.

01:04:32.180 And I have never been happier or felt more fulfilled, more grounded and rooted as I do

01:04:39.980 now with my heterosexual white husband.

01:04:46.440 Yeah, exactly.

01:04:47.340 And you guys came from same blood, you know, I mean, it ties you together.

01:04:52.380 It feels like family when you come from the same tribe, if you will, the same people, the

01:04:57.000 same lineage, the same land.

01:04:59.220 It's, it's powerful.

01:04:59.920 It's going to ground you too for the rest of your life.

01:05:02.780 You won't be divorced.

01:05:04.520 Absolutely.

01:05:05.540 And, you know, going on then and starting our family and having our first child and seeing

01:05:11.240 every ethnic background praise and, and just swoon over, over the, um, the characteristics

01:05:25.320 of our son.

01:05:26.200 I think what a joke, what a joke.

01:05:30.180 They just keep trying to tell everyone it doesn't matter.

01:05:33.840 That's not beautiful.

01:05:36.360 Every single, I don't care if it's been Hispanic, black, mulatto, Indian, Native American, everyone

01:05:45.260 has said we have never seen such intensity and such beautiful, um, blue eyes as we have

01:05:51.820 in your child.

01:05:52.440 And I think, you know what?

01:05:54.300 That's right.

01:05:55.360 We did that on purpose.

01:05:58.460 Yeah, that's great.

01:05:59.700 Wonderful.

01:06:00.380 You got to say the, maybe you got to stop shopping at Walmart.

01:06:03.320 I can't support that corporation.

01:06:05.400 I think they're pretty anti.

01:06:06.440 You got, you got to order online.

01:06:08.460 I think there's a lot of good mom and pop shops too.

01:06:11.100 Yeah, that's so true.

01:06:12.860 Amazon Prime has been great, but unfortunately sometimes we've just had to bite the bullet and

01:06:18.320 go in there.

01:06:19.600 Yeah.

01:06:20.080 When you, cause you're so isolated, there isn't much up there.

01:06:22.540 Yeah, yes.

01:06:25.420 That's been a harsh reality.

01:06:29.240 Last question for you.

01:06:30.640 I'm curious.

01:06:31.220 How did you stumble upon the alt-right and people like us, red ice?

01:06:36.680 Um, you know, I really came across it through my husband when we were first starting to date

01:06:45.200 and get acquainted.

01:06:46.480 You know, he had some ideas that were really unbelievable to me.

01:06:52.140 And I, I, I'm a hard one anyway, but in the sense that I have to ask questions.

01:07:01.100 And I thought to myself, look, Nicole, if you're going to ask and be so critical of him,

01:07:07.880 then you better be willing to listen to what he has to say.

01:07:11.460 And because of his life experiences and him being so well-traveled and also having the same

01:07:18.000 background as me, um, he started introducing me to some of his ideologies and, you know,

01:07:25.400 we really, um, were gridlocked for a while.

01:07:28.160 I wasn't quite sure if we were going to make it, but, um, in, in the, um, you know, in this

01:07:39.920 discovery of, of what he was presenting to me, I started noticing some similarities.

01:07:48.420 And, you know, back to further or into our, um, earlier in our conversation, when you were

01:07:54.620 asking me about how the elites in Germany were, um, if this was ever coming up in conversations

01:08:00.100 in those circles, yes, it was.

01:08:03.440 In one of my very dear friends in the, um, integrative medical clinic that I worked at,

01:08:10.940 a doctor, a medical doctor had, um, who's actually the descendant of a figure in German history,

01:08:19.380 um, Karl Dönitz, uh, the general or admiral of the naval, um, naval, um, department of the

01:08:32.480 Third Reich, he had sort of introduced me to some of these ideas and I thought he was the 0.99

01:08:39.380 most racist bastard. Um, I hated him for it. We were the closest of friends, but he could never 0.99

01:08:47.140 bring up a single thing. And then I found out that actually his family name was a part of German

01:08:52.640 history and I was so suspicious of him. I thought, you, Nazi. Yeah. And, you know,

01:09:02.480 here he was actually opening the door for an entire new, a brave new world. There we go.

01:09:15.620 And it wasn't until, you know, fast forward four or five years later that I met my husband-to-be

01:09:20.980 that these same types of ideas kept coming up. And I was so, I was so disenchanted.

01:09:32.460 by the, you know, I think the television and, and entertainment industry in and of itself

01:09:37.740 had, you know, kind of just chewed me up and spit me out. And I was left reeling,

01:09:45.100 wondering, you know, what, how to make sense of this world, how to, um, deal with these feelings

01:09:54.320 and sense of alienation and, and, um, not being able to connect with most people around me and

01:10:03.440 being fortunate enough to find, uh, my, my spouse and him having dealt with that as well.

01:10:09.880 And then diving into some deep philosophy, uh, Kant, Nietzsche, um, a lot of, um, very hard

01:10:22.480 questions, you know, because I, I, I speak fluent in German. Then I started actually reading Karl

01:10:30.840 Marx. I started really reading what was said and I just slowly, but surely, um, also realized

01:10:43.460 what had happened to me in Germany. And the fact of the matter is, is that, you know, a well,

01:10:48.800 I was a, I was a well-educated, um, fluent speaking, um, single woman with, with work experience

01:11:00.240 and the German, the Germans kicked me out. Unbelievable. I mean, I'm a, you know, and it wasn't

01:11:12.180 just me. It was, I had, uh, a work contract that was open-ended. My, um, professor and, uh,

01:11:22.520 boss at the medical clinic that I was working at endorsed me and wrote three different letters

01:11:29.740 to the foreigner's office begging them for me to stay. It didn't work. It worked to a point 0.99

01:11:38.020 and I was able to stay for two more years. And after that worker's visa was up, um, and

01:11:48.620 I was unemployed, I, I said, okay, you know what? Because I'm an honest person, I'll go

01:11:55.580 on unemployment. I was offered eight months of unemployment after having worked two and

01:11:59.580 a half years and contributing to the system. I said, okay, you know what? I'm okay with that.

01:12:03.180 So I gave myself eight months and I said, at the end of that, if I haven't found, you know,

01:12:09.120 another, um, steady position, I'm going to head home.

01:12:15.980 It's a good thing that happened because then you were able to go home and get married and

01:12:21.200 have a kid.

01:12:22.060 Exactly. Right. And it was just about that time that that influx of, um, refugees took over 1.00

01:12:30.180 the country. And I just said, geez, what more does this country want? I mean, a person of

01:12:38.680 Northern European and specifically German heritage.

01:12:43.280 No, they don't want those.

01:12:45.120 Yeah. Marxists don't want their language. What else do they want? And it wasn't until another

01:12:51.000 one of my girlfriends who worked with me at the medical clinic, multiple degrees, fluent in German.

01:12:57.980 Actually, she was born from South Africa, grew up speaking German at home and her visa wasn't

01:13:06.780 renewed as well. She was outrageous. Meanwhile, these Africans just scale the walls and come 1.00

01:13:11.700 right in and get free everything. It's unbelievable. 0.84

01:13:15.160 And most of the Germans couldn't understand why I was so angry. That was the real turning 0.62

01:13:20.980 point where I, I was just watching this all unfold before my eyes and I wasn't being offered

01:13:26.040 any type of work that I could live and have a sustainable, um, any type of enjoyable life

01:13:33.860 from. I just had to look at the quality of life and I was like, that's it. I'm done trying

01:13:40.720 to fight for a space here. You know, if that's the type of people that they want there, then 0.97

01:13:50.440 go for it. And unfortunately I've just had to kind of extend that, the invitation to friends

01:13:56.020 and, um, my martial arts colleagues. I've said, Hey guys, when it gets too bad, we've

01:14:00.760 got a spot for you here in North Dakota.

01:14:04.700 Yeah. Well, we might drop by there and visit. I know a lot of people are kind of eyeing it

01:14:08.220 up there and around those parts. So you never know. I might drop by. Well, Nicole, it was

01:14:12.980 a pleasure meeting you. Thank you so much for your time and sharing your story. I always

01:14:16.820 love hearing how people come to the alt right, how they find us, how they wake up. And thanks

01:14:21.640 to that German fellow who planted seeds, I think is important to always remember to drop 1.00

01:14:26.000 little seeds and everybody that we meet because eventually they do bloom and you would bloomed

01:14:30.620 later and you recognize some of those things when your husband said them. So it's important

01:14:34.540 to be doing that. And for the listeners, why don't you give out your website and let people

01:14:38.920 know how they can find your music. I'm going to end the show with a song called gotta clear

01:14:42.660 my head by you. Sure. My website is just njorgensen.wixsite.com and then it's forward

01:14:51.660 slash Nicole minus Jorgensen. All right. It's kind of a long one. It's okay. We'll share

01:14:57.300 the link anyway. But thanks again. It's been a pleasure. Yeah. Thank you. Every day I receive

01:15:02.340 moving messages from people sharing their story of how they found red eyes and the alt right.

01:15:07.160 Even from housewives in North Dakota who grasp the current reality better than anyone on Maine's

01:15:12.640 dream media. We are a rapidly growing demographic and no amount of anti-white propaganda is going to

01:15:18.660 stop it. We may not get that border wall, but in our hearts and minds, it exists protecting what we

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01:15:48.780 couple in Russia who will comment on the russ phobia in America, claims of Putin hacking the election,

01:15:54.240 the alt right and much more. We'll talk again soon.

01:15:57.420 Got to clear my head. Got to clear my mind. Something's running all the time.

01:16:10.300 Where it's gonna lead. I'm just trying to believe.

01:16:24.980 In what I can't see.

01:16:35.320 I gotta clear my head inside. From what keeps it running.

01:17:05.300 Give me a chance to be. Give me a chance to be. Just where I can breathe. Where I can see.

01:17:35.300 Sunshine. It ain't hard to find. It's just waiting for us outside.

01:17:50.300 Sometimes we can just unwind. When we remember to take the time. Why don't we go back to peace of mind.

01:18:10.300 I gotta clear my mind.

01:18:17.300 I gotta clear my head. Gotta clear my mind.

01:18:34.300 From it all I'm drawing the line

01:18:41.740 Where we all want to reach

01:18:50.280 Is some place that's free

01:18:56.040 Where we all can dream

01:19:05.700 Sunshine, we can design one

01:19:16.040 Where we remember to take the time

01:19:23.040 Sunshine, it ain't hard to find

01:19:30.220 It's just waiting for us outside

01:19:35.940 And sometimes we can just unwind

01:19:44.000 Where we remember to take the time

01:19:51.040 And sunshine, it ain't hard to find

01:19:57.540 It's just waiting for us outside

01:20:03.040 Why don't we go back to a peace of mind

01:20:10.500 And let ourselves unwind

01:20:17.000 Let's just go back to

01:20:22.500 A peace of mind

01:20:29.000 I'm just waiting for you

01:20:39.560 You

Radio 3Fourteen - April 19, 2017

How the Migrant Invasion Made Me Become a Trad Wife

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