Hundredth Monkey_ Cultural Marxism _ The New Age
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Summary
Claire Randall is the author of Waking the Monkey, Becoming the 100th Monkey, and the founder of the Glastonbury scene in the UK. She is no stranger to the topics we discuss, however, she comes from a very different background.
Transcript
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This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.
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From metaphysics and philosophy, to conspiracy, to anarchism, to the war on whites, with
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all that encompasses, we've all traveled a different path to get to where we are today.
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And that's why we have to remember to be patient and persistent with those around us
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Not one listener in the past wrote me to wake me up about white genocide.
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I found out later that people were frustrated that we weren't going there, but not one of
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those people tried to reach out to us, gently persuading us.
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I wish someone sent me the memes and the proof years ago, but no one did.
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You can't be frustrated with people for not seeing something and not try to help them
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So my point is, do everything you can for your family and friends to help get them to see
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On another note, did you see my tweet that made several online publications surrounding
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It said, it's time to tell friends and family about Jewish supremacy.
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Oh wow, did I get lots of love and open-mindedness after that one.
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You see, when it comes to the J-tribe, any criticism of any sort is considered hate.
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So forget about pointing out how they are disproportionately represented in media, banking, entertainment, government,
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and so on, because they are in those positions simply from talent.
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You see, they can organize and hyperdrive for ethnic interests 24-7 because of the supposed
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But every possible attack on European goyim is welcome and even encouraged.
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Jews can be overrepresented without a second thought.
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America can even be concerned with Israel's borders more than America.
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But when whites are the majority in the country they built, and when they want a white country,
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Such white supremacy that whites cannot even have a white country, let alone a white student
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We're told we can't even have white neighborhoods anymore.
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If you talk about Jewish supremacy, kiss your political, professional, and social life
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That's how much power they have through the media.
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So of course we should be hammering this hypocrisy.
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They stand on lies and it will eventually crumble because each one of us who pricks that weak
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My guest today is no stranger to the topics we discuss, however, she comes from a very different
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I was encouraged to learn her story because European folks of all persuasions are waking
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up to folk consciousness, cultural Marxism, and the war on our people.
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She comes from the Glastonbury scene in the UK.
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Longtime listeners know Red Ice used to do plenty of shows on that scene.
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But as we woke up a bit deeper, we saw how left and how anti-white that scene really is.
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Sadly, many baby boomers have been in that scene for 30 plus years without pushing new
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Because they still don't look at the megaliths in their own backyard from a pro-European
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It was aliens or slaves or brown people or anyone but whites.
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They built the European and even international megaliths, right?
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Claire Randall has an honors degree in philosophy and psychology from Leeds University, a post-grad
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diploma in art therapy, and worked in psychiatry, mental health, personal development, and taught
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She is the author of the book, Waking the Monkey, Becoming the 100th Monkey.
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We'll talk about the 100th monkey and contorted new age ideas that are now part of mainstream
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This and much more with Claire Randall coming up.
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Thank you very much indeed for having me on your show.
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Well, this should be a lot of fun because you and I, we've already communicated quite a
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bit and you're also a longtime Red Ice listener and you have a very interesting journey to share,
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which I think can be helpful to others who have come from a similar path.
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So tell us about your eclectic background, which led to your book, Waking the Monkey.
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Well, I've had a lifelong interest in what you might call the esoteric.
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I bought my first book on the psychic sciences when I was about 14 or 15.
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It was just the kind of usual, you know, pulp that you would get back in those days.
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But when I was at university, I started doing meditation and pursued what you might call
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kind of a mystical edge of psychology, the philosophical end of philosophy of mind, comparative
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And I've also then qualified as an art therapist and I've worked in mental health and taught
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But perhaps I should say, having gone over that, this then led me in the mid-90s to become
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And it's kind of archetype of the new age, I suppose you could say.
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And I don't want your listeners to be turning off the moment they hear the word new age
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mentioned, because I think I've ended up with rather a new take on it or rather a different
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So there was this, the event, the 100th Monkey event, which was, as the organizer called it,
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an experiment in consciousness, working with the idea of morphic fields in the way that
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Sheldrake has suggested it, to try and work with morphic fields that would help resolve
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conflict in the world, which at the time seemed a pretty good idea for me.
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I was exploring absent healing areas related to remote viewing and spiritual healing and
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so forth in the early 90s, leading up to this event in 1995.
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And I had some quite, shall we say, catalytic experiences while I was at the camp, which
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eventually led me to consider that I should write a book about it.
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In fact, there were three camps altogether, but this book is just about the first.
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There was a chap by the name of Ken Keyes, not to be confused with Ken Keyes, who also comes
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into the story, but there was an animal behaviorist called Ken Keyes, who in about 1960 did some
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experiments with, well, just observational experiments on monkeys on the islands off the
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coast of Japan, where there are still troops of monkeys that live in the wild.
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And the story goes that he noticed that a young monkey started cleaning the sweet potatoes that
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the experimenters were leaving out for the monkeys in the salt water and thereby making
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them clean and better to eat without bits of grit and mud on them.
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So then they noticed that this behavior was then adopted by most, but not all, of the
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They noticed how the ones that were closest to the monkey were the first ones to pick
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it up, and then some of the older ones were the ones who never picked it up, and there
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But the most interesting thing was that, a short while later, this behavior was observed amongst
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So this is where the concept, obviously, we don't know how many monkeys it actually took,
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but the idea is that it's like an archetype or a seed crystal has been formed in the collective
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unconscious mind of, in this case, that monkey species, a monkey on the other island that
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A monkey that was ready somehow picked up or was inspired to do the same thing.
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And this is how one of the ways that ideas are spread.
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It's a famous story that Leibniz and Newton both invented forms of the calculus at almost
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And so it's an idea that the Sheldrakean morphic fields can be established and then transmitted
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Yeah, it's happening, whether people realize it or not.
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And when we say collective consciousness, I like to think of Jung.
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But many people think, ah, New Age, Hocus Pocus.
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But the collective consciousness is what shapes our politics, culture and everything, really.
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So how do you think the New Age movement has run with this, though?
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Well, yes, this is probably the point where I have to kind of go back and review my process
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of writing this, because when I started this, 2001, it was many years ago, and it took me
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It's fairly long at 470 pages, but it's not Proust, you know.
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I know a lot more about many of the things behind the history of this now than I did when
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I realized that there were two kind of embeddings going on here.
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One was the cultural embedding of the context of the camp, the 100th Monkey Camp.
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And second was the fact that there were certain cultural concepts embedded in my own mindset
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And I had to separate these out, because basically, I realized that, obviously, over the last couple
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of years, being a regular Red Ice listener, I've been fully educated on the subject of
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And coming back to my book, after having had this education, I realized that I'd been writing
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I'd been writing under a kind of veil of cultural, a miasma of cultural Marxism that was a kind
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So I was really, really glad that I had actually put it aside and gained all this extra information.
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So over the winter, when I did the final revision and edit, I had to be quite subtle about this,
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because I couldn't, it would have been dishonest to have removed, to have tried to remove the
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culturally Marxist context of the events that took place in the book.
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I was aware of political correctness, but I know more than in the most introductory and
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superficial way that most of us were 20 years ago.
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You know, it almost seemed like a good idea at the time.
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But I could lightly skim out my own projections into it that I had put in while writing.
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That's a big one, trying to discuss concepts of the New Age movement while pointing out
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cultural Marxism, especially because New Ageism is very left.
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Well, what I realized, looking back, actually, this is very much an outgrowth of, well, I mean,
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you can take it all the way back to Blavatsky in the 1890s and Crowley and stuff like that.
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But then we have the more modern, obviously, Huxley's, he's a bit ambiguous about this because
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Then also you've got some of the early influences, like I'm thinking about Wasson and Bates and
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the West Coast counterculture, astrology, new forms of psychology.
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And this all kind of coalesced in the 70s into what I've just been reading this fascinating book.
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There's this book, I've had it lying around for years, but I've only recently read it.
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And I don't think I should have read it before because you kind of need to have an understanding
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of the whole cultural Marxist re-education that's been going on to be able to understand
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this book, The Aquarian Conspiracy by Marilyn Ferguson, which was published in 1981.
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And it's a fascinating book because the thing is, I mean, I do believe that there are scientific
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advances and conceptual and consciousness advances that have taken place over the last lifetime
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or so, which really have created the possibility of opening what I call a new age.
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We're in a technological age, which has never been known before.
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There's all sorts of new ideas coming along in science, like Sheldrake's morphic fields.
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And then there's people like that chap who's barking on DMT, Rick Strassman, I think.
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And yet it's only recently that I've started putting a kind of what you might call culture
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of critique onto this, and I've realised that so much of it is very left-oriented.
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I'd never kind of realised this before because I myself was embedded in a cultural leftist,
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cultural Marxist milieu, worldview, network, community that didn't challenge these things.
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I mean, this is, I think this is the problem that so many people have with breaking out
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of their conditioning is that they don't even realise that it's conditioning.
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Yeah, they don't even see how a lot of these new age concepts have become politically correct
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Yeah, I can actually look back to the first 100th Monkey Camp, the one about which I've
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written the book, and in it I have my own kind of rite of passage, my own journey of awakening,
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whatever you call it, by facing challenges which were both within myself but which were
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triggered by external events impinging on me and pressing my buttons and forcing me to go
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through to deal with my own sense of empowerment, disempowerment, my own sense of victimhood.
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It wasn't really intended as any kind of critique of what you might call the New Age movement or such
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like, but nonetheless it's impossible to avoid the fact that in the book there is this counterpoint
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One thing I keep hearing people say on the internet, or I remember hearing Max Egan say this
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a couple of years ago, they're all saying, oh, what we really need is a bit of critical mass.
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If the world's looking for the 100th Monkey, well, I'm going to pitch this concept here for it
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because I think that where the New Age has kind of been diverted is the idea that we can spread
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memes, collective ideas, politically correct ways of behaviour.
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These are certainly getting the 100th Monkey treatment, aren't they?
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The 100th Monkey doesn't always mean that it's a good thing that's catching on.
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And I found what sociologists call my own sense of agency.
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Now, what that means is that you realise that you have the power to change things.
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It might be only very small at first until you get more of a hang of it.
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But this, I believe, is the real thing that we should be focusing on for the 100th Monkey
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because if we're really looking for, you know, all these things that all these people have
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talked about, a revolution in consciousness and, you know, the 2012 date and all that,
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it's been diverted into nothing more than establishing social memes.
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Well, like so many things, you know, how the music industry has been subverted and controlled.
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I think this is a very similar thing because, really, what are we looking at?
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If you're really looking at, you know, what is this changing the world thing?
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I mean, they are really just words that anybody can use to be whatever they want them to.
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You know, there's too much of this enlightenment is all just about a kind of wishy-washy
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kind of roll over and lie down because, you know, I don't have the right to do anything
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to anybody else or even to claim my own identity.
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So, you know, I have to be, you know, loving and passive to everything, which, of course,
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well, you know, I think we know where that leads to.
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Yeah, I mean, if we look at the left today, they've really embraced a lot of these New
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They're so optimistic, they're in balance, they're, you know, peace and love for everyone,
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And, in fact, the final chapter in Marilyn Ferguson's book, The Aquarian Conspiracy, is
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called The Whole World, Whole Earth Conspiracy.
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There's all, you know, each chapter is some of this conspiracy, that conspiracy.
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And The Whole Earth Conspiracy is this idea, kind of where we're at now, that, I mean,
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she actually says at one point, there are no such thing as natural borders.
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Well, you know, I don't know about her, but perhaps she's never seen a coastline.
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I grew up next to a coastline, and that is a pretty solid natural border.
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Mountains, rivers, seas, impassable forests, deserts, chasms, you know, there are plenty
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of natural borders, and what the problem I see with The Aquarian Conspiracy is that it
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sees, it is blind to threats, hostility, psychopaths, you know, there was an excellent series that
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Henrik did a couple of years ago, I think, on psychopaths.
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And that was a real big part of my own kind of more recent drawing back of the curtains,
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It's all getting back down into, it's just collective means that people have to conform
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We have two completely different levels of evolutionary movement here.
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It's a dead ending into fixed thought structures, a behaviorist belief system.
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The other one is to get past this and get into the sense of agency.
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This is why, in a sense, I want to have this radical look at the New Age, because if the hundredth
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monkey is only about conforming to collective belief systems, then I think that the creative
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Yeah, the state of our collective consciousness right now is very, very unhealthy.
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You know, as you're talking, too, I'm thinking about a lot of these kind of New Age ideas springing
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But then also around the same time was the 1965 Immigration Act, which drastically started
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So I wonder if those two things kind of coincided and if from the start the intentions were globalism.
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I mean, I'm not, obviously I'm aware of the 1965 Immigration Act.
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I mean, it's not something I've particularly, you know, focused on in my own stream.
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Although there's another counterculture thing that was going on at the time, which I think
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was a PSYOP, but I think that it didn't always, the thing is, these PSYOPs don't always have
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quite the outcomes that the perpetrators want them to have.
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I mean, I mentioned earlier about Wasson and Bates and, sorry, Bateman, Gregory Bateman,
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Your listeners will know Ken Kesey is the author of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
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Because I think there was something going on here, which I'd like to throw in a different
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angle to what some of Henrik's guests a while back have suggested about this.
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There certainly is the case, and I certainly wouldn't wish to contradict any of the research
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that's been done into the, I think it's the MKUltra that Gregory Bateson carried out at
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the Palo Alto Veterans Hospital in the early 60s, about 60, 61, 62-ish.
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This was the way that they let the LSD kind of be leaked out into the community.
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Employing somebody like Ken Kesey as the janitor is kind of asking for trouble, if you don't
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But the thing is, I think what they were trying to do in the Palo Alto experiments in the San
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We're familiar with the very controlled culture of Laurel Canyon.
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A lot of work being done on those are all, you know, it made a lot of sense when, you know,
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Jim Morrison's father being the admiral who was responsible for the Tonkin incident and
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So, and the LA Laurel Canyon model, the birds, all that, was very much the popular alternative
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Whereas the San Francisco culture was this kind of, this kind of wild culture that they
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kind of, they let it have much wider parameters, you know what I mean?
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So, I think the thing here is that I would like to throw in a different point of view to
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what some people say about this, because obviously it's well known, Kesey, his bus ride and all
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the LSD that Kesey and Owsley and then the Grateful Dead were involved in and stuff.
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It's very easy to look back on this and paint a particular view of it.
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But first of all, we have to remember that the federal law against LSD was not actually
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Even in California, where it was, all the stuff was really happening, it wasn't until
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So, they were kind of, what was happening in the early 60s?
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I think to suggest that, for instance, one of the most well-known people who were subject
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to the MKUltra LSD experience was Robert Hunter.
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Now, Robert Hunter, who became the songwriter for the Grateful Dead, he was only 19 when
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he first participated in the MKUltra experiments.
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So, my feeling is very much that to suggest that Robert Hunter is some kind of mastermind
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of the cultural Marxist world, it's a kind of hindsight thing which doesn't really kind
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I mean, the thing about Kesey and Hunter is they were both writers.
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Hunter, many people consider to be the greatest poet of the late 20th century in America.
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He's a transcendental metaphysical poet, really.
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And so, for him, you know, giving him LSD, it was like putting a child in a sweet shop.
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Now, we have people like Kesey and Hunter and then later the Grateful Dead.
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Now, these are people with very, you might call it, robust, adventurous mindsets.
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The government are kind of putting it out to the public almost like sweets, you know.
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But I think the very interesting thing is that while it certainly did create the kind of chaos
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and mayhem of the Hyde Ashbury scene and then that all went downhill and you ended up with
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Altamont, 1969, you know, that person murdered in the Rolling Stones gig and the Grateful Dead
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pulling out of the show and everything like that, that was a major turning point in the
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And that was the point at which the Grateful Dead very much turned away from that political
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And I think this is why they were able to survive.
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And in fact, when they recently had their 50th anniversary reunion show, President Obama
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actually sent them a congratulatory message, which I found quite amusing because it's kind
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of like they have been kind of in a way kind of outcasts for a long time because they certainly
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they certainly pushed envelopes and boundaries a lot.
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But the thing is, they were also, they had a very robust survival attitude.
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They didn't really fit the cultural Marxist model after they had moved away from the 60s
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It's very interesting when you get things like what I would call the wild culture that
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I think you get kind of what you might call mutant survivors.
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While I certainly don't think that it's very responsible for people like Bateson to be going
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around doing these kind of experiments, obviously, because they are literally they're social
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experiments and you have no idea what you're going to create.
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But I think also, to some extent, it also bounces back on them.
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Because, oh yes, because the there's something about the people who follow the Grateful Dead,
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there's something at the core of it, which is about community and self-reliance.
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And these are things which just somehow don't quite somehow fit into the cultural Marxist
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So I suppose that's the main thing I want to say about this is that these these cultures,
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whether it be the counterculture that there was, you know, created back there in the 60s
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or or the New Age culture, they don't always produce exactly what they're designed to.
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What do you think they were designed to MKUltra in the 60s?
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Or they're basically trying to bring about some kind of degeneracy or what were they trying
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I think they were trying to create a breakdown in society and create dependency and easily
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There's always people who just won't fit in, however much they're squashed.
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It's really important just to encourage people to say, you know, that you can, you know, you
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can find your own way and you can find that sense of empowerment and not be the passive
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I noticed, too, today it seems the West, we have this strange blend of like a hyper individualism
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mixed with this tyrannical collectivism, if you know what I mean.
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It's like a healthy collectivism is lacking and then we've embraced this really unhealthy
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And I think that it's, as with all the cultural Marxist things, everything is turned upside down
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So we want a healthy, empowered individualism that embraces agency.
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We get a kind of degenerate individuality, which is all about, you know, pink iPhones and micro
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And what we want from the collective side is we want cooperation amongst groups with shared
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identity and interests, cooperating for their own benefit, not to the detriment of others.
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But what we get is collectivism where the individuality is suppressed, but the collectivism is actually
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directed against identity groups because you have to eradicate the differences between identity groups
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Although at the same time, I mean, it's all very contradictory because, of course,
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only the minority identity groups somehow managed to.
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You can be anything you want to be unless you're white.
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And it's all about really just constraining people's thoughts, people's identities, bland washing,
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And so the New Age has been a perfect vehicle for this amongst those who are looking for some
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kind of spiritual pathway, but, you know, conventional religions and so forth, you know, don't cut
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Well, and let's face it, it's mostly Western white people that are into these ideas.
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I mean, other places are still into more of their native spirituality.
00:32:52.180
I mean, I'm kind of rather concerned to find that how keen some of the leading speakers
00:33:01.140
in New Age thought are actually to dissolve borders or allow infinite migration.
00:33:08.660
Because when we were doing the camps in the 90s, virtually none of this was kind of on my horizon
00:33:19.080
Now, this is this is quite a difficult thing to talk about this particular aspect here.
00:33:23.580
But I do think that whatever we might say about the diversion and dead ending of the New Age,
00:33:33.760
And I think doing events like the 100th Monkey Camp are great.
00:33:43.780
Unfortunately, the the main chap who organized the 100th Monkey Camp, a chap by the name of
00:33:52.320
Paldon Jenkins, he is a kind of rogue genius in a way.
00:34:05.120
And he's written lots about crop circles and stuff.
00:34:09.300
But he's also engaged with helping Palestinians.
00:34:12.800
And so in this in this field, we have somebody like this who's tremendously gifted and quite
00:34:17.260
influential in this kind of New Age, kind of Glastonbury kind of oriented kind of field.
00:34:22.940
But I was I was very disappointed to to find when I actually saw him speak at the Glastonbury
00:34:30.940
My view is that he's too far too collectivist about this.
00:34:36.120
And I think this is this is a great failing in the whole Aquarian kind of New Age movement.
00:34:44.460
It's collectivism and looking down on your own people is missing the whole point.
00:34:52.040
There was a superb interview in the archives on Red Eye.
00:34:57.420
So I would recommend subscribers to go back and listen to it.
00:35:01.100
And if you're not a subscriber, then sign up because there's one Stephen Ruback in I think
00:35:08.360
it's December 2007 was talking about the upside and the downside of the the Aquarian age or
00:35:15.260
rather the transition from Piscean forms into Aquarian forms.
00:35:20.340
Now, whereas Marilyn Ferguson, the author of The Aquarian Conspiracy, characterizes the Aquarian
00:35:33.040
Whereas Stephen Ruback back in 2007 was saying, well, we have the Piscean age, Lord Master,
00:35:48.420
Compared to the Aquarian age where it's like, OK, there's a problem here.
00:35:59.200
So this is the the Aquarian age fits in with the responsibility, empowerment, agency model,
00:36:10.480
Whereas what the EU presently is doing with regard to these hundreds of thousands of people coming
00:36:21.980
across from Africa is that we are I don't like to say we that people like Merkel are playing
00:36:29.340
out this kind of well, she's kind of playing out a victim and a savior at the same time.
00:36:34.020
You know, well, we are we have to be the savior for these people.
00:36:37.480
But, you know, we are willing to make ourselves a victim and not to deal with these issues in a
00:36:46.980
One of the one of the things that I find very, very unfortunate about a lot of new age thought
00:36:53.580
is that they think that with their memes of transformation, it's all about transformation,
00:37:01.960
that they can leave behind basic scientific principles.
00:37:10.820
Now, systems theory, I was very fortunate when I was an undergraduate to actually see a guest
00:37:15.180
lecture by George Miller, who was one of the kind of gargantuan statuesque figures of psychology
00:37:21.600
who set up this theory and that is kind of one of the underlying foundation to to properly
00:37:27.500
understand in the way psychology works, because and life and biology, it's about systems have
00:37:33.540
to be systems have to have boundaries, they have to have inputs, they have to have outputs,
00:37:38.280
they have to have and this is you can look at a cell.
00:37:41.540
You can see, you know, cell has a guiding principle as controlling structures inside there.
00:37:47.120
It absorbs energy, it expels energy and it has a defined cell wall and every functional
00:37:54.340
system has to have a defined boundary where it can have, you know, ionic exchanges or people
00:38:05.360
Now, any system, any group, any cell, any collection of cells that ceases to control the ionic transfer
00:38:18.540
of molecules through its cell wall will cease to exist.
00:38:23.280
You put, you allow an amoeba to have too much salt, then it just pops, ex-amoeba, you know.
00:38:32.760
And under the pretext of no boundaries, all this, the new age is the people who have really
00:38:44.700
kind of almost unbeknownst to them kind of been infected with this, because it seems like
00:38:48.460
in a way that the whole of Western civilization in a way is is infected with this, or at least
00:38:54.440
It's like it's, you know, hypnotized by a cobra or something.
00:38:59.460
I wanted to know, too, how, you know, you've been exposed to these concepts of the new right
00:39:06.700
So how has it changed your spirituality and your view on things like astrology, meditation,
00:39:16.300
Well, I've had a very interesting journey with that over recent times, Lana.
00:39:20.500
I've always, you know, had a kind of spiritual inclination and...
00:39:28.600
Well, one of the things that's evolved in the last few years is that about, it was in
00:39:33.600
2012, this is kind of one of those reasons why I think there are things about, you know,
00:39:39.780
In 2012, I started becoming aware of and thinking about the local landscape here where I live.
00:39:46.880
It's a suburb of Leeds called Headingley in Yorkshire.
00:39:51.820
It's quite well known for a famous international cricket ground we have here.
00:39:56.560
But we're also just about a mile from the medieval Kirkstall Abbey, which is a Cistercian Abbey,
00:40:04.980
which was immensely powerful here for, oh, 300 years or so in the Middle Ages.
00:40:09.760
And I just started getting interested in the historical landscape, what I call the mythic
00:40:19.120
And then a local planning inquiry, which has not yet been resolved, but it would have...
00:40:27.480
It threatens, basically, to cut down many hundreds of mature trees, many of which would
00:40:43.500
It's like a series of dominoes, because Professor J.R.R. Tolkien happened to be a professor of
00:40:51.340
English here at Leeds University for a short period after the First World War, before he
00:40:56.920
got his position at Oxford, which was obviously what he wanted.
00:41:05.380
And I started looking at trees and thinking, would Tolkien have known that tree?
00:41:11.160
And it was like a kind of doorway into history.
00:41:15.260
And I started finding a lot of locations around here, which bear strong resemblance to places
00:41:24.740
And there was an old shire oak that was still here when he was here.
00:41:44.220
And there are several things about this which kind of creep into the Lord of the Rings, because
00:41:51.560
I think this is where he got his idea of treebeard, the ent, from, because in the book he describes
00:42:00.860
Well, this shire oak that he saw at the end of his street when he first came here was a 14-foot
00:42:06.400
stump of oak, and he will have passed this every day on his way to the university.
00:42:21.420
But at the same time, it brought me into a deeper understanding of the mythic and historical
00:42:35.960
In fact, just the other day, I had a little meeting with Odinists within a few feet of
00:42:44.420
And it was a very interesting experience to feel that we were in some way connecting with
00:42:51.140
that ancient meeting place and the ancient meeting that these people will have had a
00:42:57.540
thousand years ago when they were, you know, having their old thingy or their weapon take
00:43:06.220
It's very interesting to try and it's kind of like some kind of mystical exercise to, you
00:43:13.280
know, if you have a place where things have happened before and people have been of interest,
00:43:19.680
then you can, you know, it's kind of getting in touch with that morphic field, that resonance,
00:43:26.600
Yeah, I wonder if there is this interplay between morphic fields and politics, if there's
00:43:33.100
some kind of imprinting that happens in which way that that goes.
00:43:42.140
We know a lot about neurolinguistic programming now, the way that language, words can be tweaked,
00:43:50.040
said in certain ways, structured, developed and presented in such a way as to shape.
00:44:00.400
And I think this is what cultural Marxism is about, isn't it?
00:44:03.100
It's about grabbing your attention, about grabbing your thought and directing you in a particular
00:44:10.900
Now, one of the things I think that this particularly applies to is that when they see some evolutionary
00:44:18.640
development coming along, such as agency and empowerment, it has to be hijacked so that a genuine
00:44:29.040
human evolutionary drive can be replaced with nothing but a linguistic meme.
00:44:39.860
So I think it's designed to redirect us away from our own sense of empowerment.
00:44:47.940
I mean, you get this in, you know, in the alternative research movement, you know, you'll find people
00:44:54.400
attacking other people, wasting energy, getting lost in distractions, all these things, rather
00:45:02.140
than just, you know, simply just getting on with the creative and productive.
00:45:08.700
I don't know if you've read the Dune, any of the Dune books, Lana.
00:45:14.020
Well, I'm an immense, I'm an immense fan of the Dune series.
00:45:21.840
And I think some of the ideas that Frank Herbert put in there are absolutely classic.
00:45:27.240
And for instance, the character of Duncan Idaho, in the first book, he's killed.
00:45:40.580
There's all this stuff about this in Dune, readers will know.
00:45:42.820
So, and then, but as we know, the reanimated Gola, as they're called, do not have any memory
00:45:51.860
They're just a kind of living automata that does what it's told.
00:45:59.000
So, Duncan Idaho is still an excellent bodyguard, but he doesn't remember anything.
00:46:02.980
However, when he is put in a position where he has been programmed by his new masters to
00:46:11.400
assassinate the Emperor Palmud Dib, this creates such a cognitive conflict in his mind that it
00:46:27.140
And I think that we're in a kind of situation like that at the moment.
00:46:30.340
And in the Vedic texts, they talk about the diamond body, which is, if one thinks about
00:46:39.240
the metaphor of a diamond, a diamond is carbon that's been compressed under heat to the point
00:46:46.960
where it fuses into a perfectly ordered lattice and you can't, you know, it's virtually indestructible.
00:46:53.640
And this is the idea of the truly awakened being is that they have, I think there's
00:47:00.320
all this, you know, meditating under a bow tree until you achieve enlightenment.
00:47:05.020
I just don't see where that gets you, you know, because it's just doing nothing, isn't
00:47:10.280
You know, to me, the real enlightenment is facing a really difficult conflict and realizing
00:47:17.900
that you have to do something about it and taking responsibility and agency for it.
00:47:23.020
And not being endlessly compassionate until you're just destroyed and sacrificed altogether.
00:47:29.780
I mean, one of my favorite stories from the Bhagavad Gita is, well, basically, it's the
00:47:36.600
When Arjuna is, the night before the Battle of Kuruksetra, Arjuna is sitting beside the campfire
00:47:47.060
with Krishna and he says to Krishna, look, my relatives, I think it's the Kaurava, are going
00:47:54.460
to all come and kill me and my family in the morning.
00:47:59.100
And, well, I'm kind of paraphrasing Krishna here a bit, but basically Krishna says, well,
00:48:05.180
you could always let them kill you, you know, whereas Arjuna kind of realizes that all this
00:48:14.580
stuff that Krishna has been telling him about, you have to maintain the body and, you know,
00:48:20.220
you have to constantly fight against decay, which is the same as the Egyptian, you know,
00:48:26.800
battle between Osiris and Set, you know, it's a never-ending battle, it's never-ending decay
00:48:35.660
This is the cycle of life, you know, death and rebirth that is found in, well, you know,
00:48:44.520
it permeates most religions, but what we really need to do is not see it as some remote God
00:48:52.000
figure who's doing this, but actually that is taking place within us, that we need to
00:48:59.280
face this, face these conflicts and not capitulate, because that is, you know, it's back to the
00:49:14.640
I don't know if you know about it, in the shape of a kolovrat or a spinning wheel, it's
00:49:18.600
kind of a swastika-like ancient European symbol, did you see that?
00:49:21.800
I did see that, I didn't know what to make of it, I mean...
00:49:25.120
It's almost like an imprinting of our European consciousness right now, because this is such
00:49:29.940
a big topic and I almost felt like the earth was saying, I'm with you, I support you.
00:49:35.400
I've been in, I've been in them, I don't think it's two guys with a board, I don't think
00:49:39.120
it's aliens, I think it's some kind of phenomena that's happening on earth and it's probably
00:49:44.980
I think you're right, and this one that you've just suggested kind of may cause us to have
00:49:50.440
to revise, that the original idea was that this is aliens trying to send us messages.
00:50:00.060
It's as likely to be something that's being produced by our own collective mind.
00:50:07.420
Touching on my art therapy background, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if this was some kind
00:50:14.880
of hundredth monkey externalization of a, some kind of forming, coalescing archetype.
00:50:24.640
Which is funny because the crop circle community was very quiet about interpreting this one.
00:50:33.800
And well, I think we have to look at these things.
00:50:37.440
And I mean, this whole area is something that's very, very difficult for the New Age, you know,
00:50:47.280
But I think that it is perfectly summed up by those, you know, what Stephen Rubach said, you know,
00:50:56.520
eight years ago about Piscean rescuing versus Aquarian taking responsibility.
00:51:06.720
Yes, I've got a little story actually from, in the very first art therapy workshop I ever did,
00:51:12.560
or it was a week-long course, but in the final workshop we did a group painting.
00:51:16.140
We all had different sections on this large sheet of paper, and then there were various
00:51:21.020
different adventures from one person's territory into another.
00:51:24.860
So you can see it's like a kind of, people are kind of putting out, you know, claiming territory,
00:51:32.160
defining boundaries, all that kind of stuff, which is easily understandable in terms of
00:51:41.100
And then somebody started taking the tubes of coloured paint and make it, putting them
00:51:48.080
all, put it, squeezing them all into the centre and then turning it into a spiral.
00:51:57.900
But I think you can probably see where it went.
00:52:00.440
Because if you kept, and I remember, I don't know if it was me or somebody said,
00:52:04.160
oh, don't keep stirring it because it'll all turn into mud.
00:52:10.900
So this beautiful spiral of all these different colours got turned into just one brown muddy colour.
00:52:19.420
And, well, the very, very controversial thing that I should probably say or not say about it
00:52:26.840
was that the person who did that was the only non-European person in the group.
00:52:30.820
And I'll tell you what, now that was 35 years ago, and I hadn't thought about it
00:52:38.440
until last year when this subject started coming up a lot.
00:52:44.920
You take all these people, you smoosh them together, you tell them to have children together
00:52:49.360
and bring their culture together, and then it becomes a whole lot of just nothing, basically.
00:52:59.300
I'm definitely still with some kind of concept of New Age, but I think it's something that has to be properly re-envisioned
00:53:09.560
because I think there are indeed historical changes that are happening on the world.
00:53:17.720
You know, obviously, the technology that's come along in the last 50 years or so, the new ideas.
00:53:25.240
I mean, I'm very encouraged by there was a fundamental quantum particle called an amplituhedron
00:53:32.780
has just been discovered, and I'm kind of thinking, well, maybe this is kind of can be analogous
00:53:41.140
to finding some kind of hitting bottom so we can get back, so we can find that irreducible centre,
00:53:49.600
that irreducible core that, I dare say, the deconstructionists will say doesn't exist.
00:53:56.020
I think we have to work with our own core sense of identity and not let them be deconstructed endlessly.
00:54:06.020
I mean, it's a bit like that example in Bertrand Russell's Problems of Philosophy.
00:54:10.540
Right at the beginning, he says, we have here a brown table, but of course, it's not really a brown table.
00:54:17.540
It's really trillions of whirling electrons and stuff.
00:54:21.600
But of course, I think that it's really misleading to say that because it is both the brown table
00:54:29.260
and the whirling electrons, and we shouldn't get into this complete reductionist thing
00:54:34.920
where we get away from the level of consciousness and conceptualisation and feeling we have
00:54:42.480
because otherwise we are in danger of this cultural Marxist deconstruction.
00:54:48.300
You're nothing but this, you're nothing but that, blah, blah, blah, without remembering that we are a great deal more than that.
00:55:00.820
And I just really am concerned about, you know, the future where if we carry on with this just thinking everything can be deconstructed
00:55:13.500
or everything can be dealt with on linguistic levels, then it is not survival adaptive.
00:55:22.820
We have to look at things in terms of evolutionary psychological survival adaptation with these things.
00:55:31.340
And all this cultural Marxist memes deconstruction.
00:55:36.240
What is the survival adaptive value of knowing that a table is made of millions of electrons?
00:55:43.440
Not nearly as much, at least immediately, as it is of knowing it's a useful thing to put things on.
00:55:55.280
You just kind of lose you and take you away from reality.
00:55:58.720
I think there is the potential, you know, in parts of the New Age movement to recognise this
00:56:05.860
because it has arisen out of genuine historical events and genuine historical trends.
00:56:13.060
It's just that certain schools of thought have tried to always misdirect it away from where we should really be going with it.
00:56:19.200
I wanted to ask you one more thing as we begin to wind down here.
00:56:22.520
I know you get into, in your book, and I think it's something we all unconsciously take part in,
00:56:27.920
but it's about the archetypal, the rite of passage journey.
00:56:31.200
And then, of course, in Europeans, we always have our hero's journey, which is so important.
00:56:37.500
We understood the importance of having this kind of rite of passage.
00:56:48.020
I mean, when I was a child, we used to be able to go out hunting for tadpoles in ditches and things like this.
00:56:56.540
And children went through kind of micro rites of passage all the time
00:57:01.300
because they were allowed to explore and develop.
00:57:04.500
And then, of course, there would be the major rites of passage into adulthood.
00:57:08.340
A 13 or 14-year-old would be, you know, left out in the wild to survive or whatever overnight.
00:57:19.640
And what we have in the modern world was they're so protected.
00:57:24.120
There is no chance of people ever really facing these challenges because this is what it's about.
00:57:30.560
Basically, you know, life is a series of challenges.
00:57:35.880
And if you meet those challenges, then you will grow and you will ascend and you will move on and develop.
00:57:41.300
If you're protected from ever experiencing danger or conflict or challenges,
00:57:49.560
then you will remain a kind of fearful child who's constantly wanting to be protected and rescued by the parent.
00:58:00.580
And so you're back into that Piscean savior victim kind of mentality.
00:58:05.400
We have to have some kind of managed rites of passage, you know, as humans developed, you know,
00:58:17.080
One of the first things I imagine would have been to learn how to train those,
00:58:25.740
to train the younger members of the clan in the kind of experiences
00:58:31.900
which would enable them to grow and become future, you know, leaders of the tribe.
00:58:44.840
I was hoping you can share your websites and let everyone know about your book
00:58:53.220
Lulu.com, I think it's probably forward slash waking the monkey,
00:58:56.480
or you can search for me on lulu.com, either waking the monkey or Claire A. Randall, R-A-E.
00:59:08.980
I try to keep them separate because they have different kind of subject matters.
00:59:13.560
There's the waking the monkey blog and the website of that is just wakingthemonkey.blogspot.co.uk.
00:59:20.220
I also have a blog I started recently called PC Newspeak Deconstruction,
00:59:32.820
and I talk in that about politically correct newspeak
00:59:38.440
and how there's quite a long post there about gender studies,
00:59:45.000
You're very diverse and you can talk and we want to definitely have you back
00:59:49.960
to discuss gender studies and transsexuals and intersexuals.
01:00:00.560
And then there's also my other blog that I haven't put in much recently,
01:00:11.620
Yes, and if anybody would like to get in touch with me,
01:00:31.680
I'd encourage listeners to go into the Red Ice Radio archives
01:00:35.620
and listen to Mark Passio's two shows on New Age pacification
01:00:39.780
versus self-preservation and the New Age deception,
01:00:43.700
because these exact same principles apply to leftist liberal thought today.
01:00:51.200
I hear liberal atheists talking like New Age pacifists.
01:01:02.440
is straight out of the hippy-dippy San Francisco,
01:01:10.940
but now we hear these exact same concepts in mainstream politics.
01:01:16.220
one love only applies in the globalist anti-white sense.
01:01:26.420
I do think the concepts of the hundredth monkey morphic field
01:01:33.480
but they've been grossly contorted and misapplied to all of humanity
01:01:40.940
It's clear that each racial family has its own morphic field
01:01:46.960
because look at the evolution and progression of each race through the ages.
01:01:51.460
Whites up north came into the same ideas with other whites way down south,
01:01:57.880
Each race possesses its own unified consciousness that is shared through thousands,
01:02:08.920
Look at how each people prefers to be with their own.
01:02:18.320
The formation of different biological expressions is miraculous,
01:02:22.360
and each race possesses a racial soul that is unique to our genetics,
01:02:26.600
a soul that has been created over millions of years.
01:02:36.100
the metaphysical dimension of racial awareness to hear a deeper analysis on this.
01:02:42.280
to the Glastonbury listeners who pay homage to the sacred sites of Europe,
01:02:47.060
who will preserve and guard these sites if whites are no longer around?
01:02:53.820
Because incoming people who have no connection to these sites don't give a damn.
01:03:20.980
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