Radio 3Fourteen - John MacLugash - Globohomo Religion vs European Native Spirituality

00:00:00.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, you are watching 314, 314 being Pi Day, also my birthday, and

00:00:11.720 it also happens to be the day Karl Marx died. So sad, right? Joining me is John McLeugish,

00:00:17.540 hopefully I'm saying that right, author of The Return of the Solar King. Welcome, John,

00:00:22.120 how are you? I'm great. How are you today? Not too bad. I'm glad to have you here. I

00:00:27.460 really enjoyed this collection of essays that you wrote for the book, which are, it's really

00:00:32.260 all-encompassing, presenting a holistic picture of some of the big issues that we face today,

00:00:37.780 as well as some sensible solutions. So I really enjoyed it. Thank you. It was definitely

00:00:42.880 a work in the making. It was a combination of about six years of writing. I started a blog back in,

00:00:51.240 let's say, 2014, which was originally basically going to be a collection of sermons that I was

00:00:58.800 writing. I had just gotten ordained as a priest for it. It was essentially a New Age esoteric

00:01:05.340 Christian order. I can talk about that a little bit. But yeah, it was a collection. It was supposed

00:01:12.140 to be sermons, but it eventually turned into basically whatever, you know, sort of rabbit

00:01:17.900 holes I was going down or thoughts that I was having, you know, just write them down. And,

00:01:24.740 you know, it was basically tackling whatever issues were present and pertinent in my mind and

00:01:29.820 at the culture at the time. Yeah, it's great. I loved it. It's definitely been kind of a journey.

00:01:35.580 In your bio, you say you're passionate about mysticism, just so people know the cult. We love

00:01:39.520 all this stuff. Mythology, history, masculinity, wellness, self-improvement, as well as preserving

00:01:44.400 and advancing traditional European thought, culture, and identity. So I think a good place

00:01:49.220 to begin is you mentioned that you were a priest of this interesting esoteric sect. So let's get

00:01:53.720 into your background a little bit and then kind of, yeah, go from there. Okay. So I guess

00:02:01.880 background, background, I'm originally from rural Maine, moved out to Oregon. And, you know,

00:02:09.860 throughout that time, I want to say from my 20s, I got into shamanism, New Age stuff. And it really

00:02:19.440 was, I mean, as a kid, I was raised Catholic. So that definitely made an impact on my mind. I was

00:02:29.260 never confirmed. I didn't go through, I had an issue with the structure of the church and of the,

00:02:36.640 basically the, the, the Pope itself, um, that office. I just had problems with that as I got

00:02:42.400 older. Um, but I never lost, uh, you know, kind of a belief in the supernatural or belief in, in God

00:02:48.140 or a higher power or whatever you want to call it. Um, and as I got into my early 20s, I did what a lot

00:02:55.460 of people have done and experimented with psychedelics. And that kind of took me down a path where I

00:03:00.400 explored things like, uh, shamanism and, uh, basically that culminated me kind of going on my

00:03:06.800 own, uh, personal vision quest. I stayed out in the woods for about four days, uh, did some fasting

00:03:13.060 and meditation, um, something that I repeated here a couple of years ago. Um, and that they basically

00:03:20.160 prayed for, for guidance. And that essentially took me into doing martial arts and Taoism and Buddhism

00:03:27.900 and my sensei in my martial arts instructor at the time, he, uh, taught a class and he basically

00:03:35.200 covered a waterfront of, of things from Ken Wilber and Wayne Dyer to, to Chi Gong and Taoist

00:03:42.240 meditation and yoga and things like that. So, um, that kind of primed me to explore these sort

00:03:48.460 of new age ideas more. Um, and I eventually, when I ended up in Oregon, um, I, I was heavy

00:03:56.200 into Gnostic Christianity at that time and looking into that. Um, and I found, uh, a fellow

00:04:03.040 was on meetup group. He was doing classes and he was, uh, he had been part of a group. It's

00:04:11.560 called the Holy order of mans. And they were a group founded back in the sixties. It was

00:04:17.660 by a fellow named Earl Blighton, uh, who himself, he was an electrical engineer by trade, but had

00:04:23.580 also, he was a Rosa Crucian and a Mason. And I'm sure, you know, that'll set all the conspiracy

00:04:29.480 bells off. Um, and he, uh, he, he, his idea was that he felt that there were, uh, teachings

00:04:42.500 that shouldn't be kept secret. He, he was about kind of teaching small classes to the public

00:04:48.740 and he was down in San Francisco or moved down to San Francisco during the time. I won't

00:04:54.700 say it was the early sixties, right. As you know, the, the hippie movement and the kind

00:04:59.460 of new age stuff was really beginning to take off. He himself was from, uh, the new thought

00:05:04.700 tradition, um, which was kind of earlier, uh, 20th century, uh, you know, think of things

00:05:10.700 like, um, was it Christian science, um, science of mind, uh, things like that. This, you know,

00:05:17.820 the idea of, of healing through, through basically right living through right thinking and all of

00:05:24.520 that. Um, and he was into bringing that into, uh, he almost, he kind of made a, uh, a hybrid

00:05:32.960 of essentially new age and, you know, he had the dressings of, of traditional Christianity,

00:05:39.440 specifically Catholicism. And, uh, you'd perform a communion ritual that was similar to what was

00:05:48.880 the old Catholic communion before Vatican II in a way, as far as the priest with the back to the

00:05:54.860 audience and things like that. If the congregation, I should say, uh, for those familiar with that.

00:05:59.420 Um, so he started school essentially, and it turned into, uh, almost, it turned into an organization,

00:06:11.640 um, where, you know, he had folks that, that lived there, um, and they would go on missions across the

00:06:18.300 country and start new schools. Um, he would ordain people. Um, and my teacher came out of that and

00:06:26.500 he had, uh, the order itself, um, kind of fell apart after Father Paul, uh, passed. There were some

00:06:36.480 interesting circumstances around his passing. There was some controversy. Um, he was, you know,

00:06:44.200 like most of these, these leaders, uh, he was a checkered individual, um, you know, good and bad.

00:06:49.920 And definitely, uh, he, when he left, he basically transitioned, um, the people taking over, there

00:06:59.600 were some arguments about what to do with the organization that was right around the time, the

00:07:03.400 whole Jim, Jim Jones thing had happened. And, um, people were very wary of cults, uh, personally

00:07:10.360 looking back at the order and having heard the history and, and kind of the way they were, I

00:07:14.360 needed to do things like, you know, start the, uh, it's the Raphael house, uh, especially a woman's

00:07:20.300 shelter and things like that. I mean, they did do a lot of good stuff. Um, you know, I wouldn't say

00:07:25.680 there were necessarily a cult in the classical sense. I mean, it's unfortunately there is, you know,

00:07:32.740 a lot of baby boomers. It was, it was pretty much all baby boomers as it was, you know, the sixties.

00:07:37.880 So, I mean, there's, you know, the cult-like, uh, mentality that kind of came out of, you know,

00:07:43.580 some things in the sixties, um, it was inevitable, but, you know, and they sort of brought their,

00:07:48.700 their beliefs into, into the order. Um, you know, father Paul himself, uh, he was a bit more

00:07:56.420 conservative. He was, uh, definitely from what I've gathered, uh, kind of anti-communist,

00:08:02.340 um, but he was also kind of that classical, you know, liberal, um, he was very much a Mason in his

00:08:11.760 belief that, you know, he believed that America was, you know, that there should be some sort of

00:08:18.520 world democratic, uh, you know, order, you know, led by America, you know, whatever you want to,

00:08:25.980 you know, however that would look. Um, so yeah, definitely, you know, good and bad. It's all

00:08:32.620 checkered. Um, yeah, it's interesting how that, that new agey Christianity really, it's really

00:08:38.780 becoming more popular even today and it's merging with liberalism. I remember going to Europe and

00:08:45.400 learning about all these Christians that are actually very liberal. And I was like, what,

00:08:49.400 what is that? And we don't have that in America. Most of them are, you know, conservative right-wingers

00:08:53.780 and stuff. But now we see that changing even in America. Like there's a lot of liberal neo-Marxist

00:08:59.980 Christianity that's coming and it's really fusing with this kind of new age, universalist,

00:09:05.400 uh, globalist type of thing. So I wanted to get into, you know, the new age movement. I know we

00:09:10.620 shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater as they say. I want to get into some of the deceptions

00:09:14.640 of the new age movement versus some of the truths within it. Now we've done shows in the past about

00:09:19.400 how, well, Henrik has about the new age movement, which has been almost exclusively a liberal thing,

00:09:24.460 right? It's a lefty movement. It's become a new religion, I think, to really prevent people from

00:09:29.700 developing a deep understanding of natural law, which includes a lot of right-wing aspects like

00:09:34.460 masculinity, family, structure, you know, taking control of your destiny. It's incredibly passive,

00:09:41.440 right? Just let the universe take care of it. So instead of taking the reins and, you know,

00:09:45.940 taking control of things yourself, right? Uh, you just have your wishboards and your mantras,

00:09:50.420 right? So what do you, what can you say about the new age movement as far as there, because there

00:09:54.940 are some truths in there, right? But there's deceptions as well. Yeah. And that's, and that

00:10:00.380 is the tricky thing with it. I mean, you have to approach it with, with a high amount of discernment

00:10:07.040 and, you know, that, that, that, that awful words, discrimination. Um, you know, you have to,

00:10:12.840 you know, look at everything. Um, I came at it from, like I said, a background of traditional

00:10:19.040 religion, but also heavy into mythology and things like that. Um, but, you know, not to go off on a

00:10:26.100 tangent. Uh, so with the new age itself, um, yeah, there is a lot of tendency to kind of ignore the

00:10:34.040 bad, you know, you know, just, just think about light and love and, and, you know, ignore the fact

00:10:39.440 that there are, there are definitely dark forces there. Um, but as far as, you know, at the same

00:10:48.700 time, it, the new age borrows heavily from ancient pagan and, and mystery traditions. Um, but what it

00:10:57.300 tends to do is it discards, uh, the aspects that aren't compatible with, uh, you know, globalist,

00:11:05.140 capitalist, modernity, um, you know, I would say that, you know, a lot of it is, you know, I think

00:11:13.600 of, you know, folks would say the spiritual, not religious. Um, it's this idea that we, you know,

00:11:20.300 folks will want this kind of lovey-dovey experience and, and they, they want to feel all the love and

00:11:26.040 light, but they don't want, um, the things that are necessary in order to, to get to those places.

00:11:33.940 They don't want the, uh, the moral code. They don't want, um, any kind of restrictions or

00:11:41.440 constraints, um, that were inherent in spiritual discipline. It's, it's the, it's the discipline

00:11:47.880 part that is kind of moved away and, and, and kind of poo-pooed. Yeah, that's right. It's discipline

00:11:54.640 is like, it's, that's considered like fascism now, right? Any kind of structure and order and like

00:12:01.760 all of that's going out the window, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any, any kind of

00:12:07.660 constraint, um, you know, like the new age itself, I mean, you know, the idea of, of, of ages, uh, you

00:12:14.440 know, with the sun passing through the house of the zodiac, um, that's a, that's an ancient concept

00:12:21.560 and it's, it, it, there, there are forces that, that can be used for either good or, or ill.

00:12:29.160 Yeah. I mean, there's certain aspects of, you had said that the new age movement has borrowed from

00:12:33.960 older traditions and, and I agree. I mean, like the idea of a higher self, for instance, or meditation

00:12:39.900 or, uh, prayer and manifestation, maybe, uh, karma, archetypes, all those things that the new age

00:12:46.780 movement, uh, they've borrowed from, from older things. Right. But you have a chapter in your book

00:12:51.840 that says, uh, don't be a Jim Carrey, right? Tell us a little bit about that. Cause I mean, Jim Carrey

00:12:56.720 really went off, uh, went off the deep end, taking this, uh, new age a bit extreme.

00:13:02.800 Yeah. So Jim Carrey, if I remember correctly, I wrote that chapter that, that essay here a few years ago,

00:13:08.920 but I think he was basically talking about, you know, he, it was, he basically had, had gotten

00:13:18.540 rid of his, his ego and, you know, he was, he was above all that. And it reminded me of a while ago,

00:13:26.220 there was, it was when I, when I came into contact with the, uh, the ideas from the secret and this idea

00:13:32.440 of creative manifestation. And I had a coworker actually who introduced that particular, uh,

00:13:38.920 well, it was a film that I saw, but it was also based on a book, um, to me. And he was going

00:13:46.440 around work saying, I am God, you know, I am, you know, I am the divine. And it's, it is, again,

00:13:54.040 it's this idea of spiritual egotism. Um, it's this idea that, and they talk about this in hermetic

00:14:01.500 philosophy and in the Kabbalion, uh, you know, that there's a difference between, okay, we are,

00:14:08.160 uh, reflections and aspects of a divine force in the way that, you know, say, you know, one of the

00:14:18.820 characters of Dickens is an aspect of, of him. Um, you know, we are not God, the totality of the

00:14:28.380 universe, you know, whatever you want to, what to give that as far as a name. Um, we are aspects

00:14:34.840 of it and we are here to essentially fully realize ourselves, um, you know, come into wholeness

00:14:45.040 and unity internally, you know, to, to reconcile the disparate elements of ourselves, you know,

00:14:51.160 our light, our dark, um, you know, come to face to face with our fears, uh, cross our own internal

00:14:57.820 abyss and become fully actualized, uh, individuals. But, but it's not this idea that we're going to

00:15:06.320 become completely absorbed and lose all identity in some sort of, uh, mass blob of, of a hive mind or,

00:15:18.320 or, or something of that nature. And that seems to be a lot of, of what people in the new age are

00:15:23.820 kind of give for even my, you know, talking with my old mentor, um, at times, you know, he would kind

00:15:28.920 of talk about, you know, this idea that we're just going to, you know, it's all about, you know,

00:15:33.560 it's all about the one that's all about everything being connected. It's like, yes, everything is

00:15:38.300 connected, but we aren't meant to lose our identities in connection. And I think that's, that's,

00:15:44.440 that's something that, that a lot of that, that's, that's being sort of pushed.

00:15:49.620 Oh yeah, absolutely. Like with the globalists, I mean, that fits perfectly with their whole agenda,

00:15:55.560 right? We're all one. It's just this big brotherhood. And of course, sure, there's some

00:16:00.580 truth to that, but they just use this lingo, right? They use it to kind of dupe you into, uh,

00:16:05.840 basically not being a nationalist, basically like replacing, uh, white people in white countries,

00:16:11.940 you know, just, it's always open up and just trust and let it flow. And the forces with,

00:16:17.780 you know, this, this type of lingo to, to bring in this universalist idea where we are just a big

00:16:22.900 hive mind, but ultimately they control that hive mind. And I see they're ultimately using this type

00:16:28.440 of new age lingo to push this fourth industrial revolution, like you mentioned in your book. So

00:16:33.500 let's get a little bit into how and why they're using it.

00:16:37.680 Yeah, definitely. Um, so the new age itself, I mean, what a lot of people talk about is

00:16:46.380 this age of Aquarius and it's debatable when that has happened. You know, there are some folks,

00:16:54.320 I know the traditions that, uh, the, the fellow, uh, who founded the order that ultimately ordained me,

00:17:02.320 um, you know, they were talking about the age of Aquarius happening, you know, sometime around

00:17:08.000 the late 1800s, early 1900s, you know, the, the people that were in the order, the, you know,

00:17:14.320 the hippies had joined, um, they thought the age of Aquarius was in, in the sixties and, you know,

00:17:19.500 they're, they're singing that song. Um, it more than likely, you know, that happened probably sometime

00:17:28.600 now or between now and 2030, if I remember, I was looking at actual, you know, what the astrological,

00:17:34.240 you know, realities of that might actually be. Um, it's tough to say we are definitely, I mean,

00:17:41.200 by all metrics, we are in a transition point now for sure. Um, and what, you know, these, these oligarchs,

00:17:48.820 they, they look to do is, is direct distort and utilize, uh, what's, what's actually an organic

00:17:55.360 and unstoppable astrological and spiritual event and kind of, you know, Judah move it for their

00:18:02.120 own game. Um, you know, there's, uh, definitely a quickening occurring in the organic evolution

00:18:07.920 of humanity in the earth. And this evolution is being driven by the sun, our sun, um, which is,

00:18:15.820 you know, my mentor, he would always, you know, refer to it as the physical body of an, of an

00:18:22.640 invisible, of invisible God, um, ultimately a spiritual force. And it's a gateway to higher realms.

00:18:28.560 And it's, it's an initiative. It's, it's basically what's happening right now is an initiation process.

00:18:34.560 Um, and it's a pass or fail kind of deal. Um, but there are forces and individuals that,

00:18:40.720 you know, aren't going to pass this initiation and evolve along with this

00:18:45.680 greater, higher organic spiritual impulse that is looking to take humanity up. Um, and they're not,

00:18:52.960 they're, you know, these people that have not taken the time to clean up their internal garbage and,

00:18:57.920 you know, just generation after generation of just degeneration and completely, uh,

00:19:06.080 just going completely against nature, completely against cosmic law. It's, it's ultimate, uh,

00:19:11.680 rebellion. And they've embraced lower nature and the archetypal forces of lower realms,

00:19:16.040 which is what a lot of people in the new age kind of get caught into, you know,

00:19:19.940 with the whole channeling and all that, you know, most people, you know, they're not communing with

00:19:25.060 these higher entities, you know, that are, you know, solar beings or, or beyond that, you know,

00:19:31.300 they're, they're looking at things that are, you know, for lack of a better word from the demonic

00:19:36.400 realms, they're lower, uh, sort of like fourth dimensional, um, sort of astral entities, um, as

00:19:43.480 opposed to, you know, angels or, or whatever you want to refer to him or, or the higher gods and

00:19:49.400 things like that. Even with the liberalism today, like Satanism is being pushed. Like even, there was

00:19:54.960 even a, a Satanist group that was trying to have a club for kids in this, in the school and they're,

00:20:00.100 oh, it was okay. We were just renting space in this grade school or whatever. But you see,

00:20:04.360 you see Satanism being defended now. So that's definitely interacting with some, uh, trying to

00:20:10.280 interact with some lower level G's, you know, anyway, go on. Yeah, no, definitely. I mean,

00:20:15.580 it's, and that's, I mean, especially, I mean, I don't know. So it's hard for me not to snicker at

00:20:20.980 some of this, this stuff, especially the, the Satanists, just how, at least the ones that get

00:20:26.500 attention on TV, how LARPing, how very showy it is. Yeah. I don't know. It's, I know.

00:20:34.360 But it's, it's not, it is very much, you know, it's, it is indicative of a larger issue in that,

00:20:43.060 you know, we are definitely, you know, those people that, that kind of steer and control the

00:20:48.700 media and the narrative and everything else are seeking to orient people's consciousness in a certain

00:20:56.420 way as, you know, they're essentially predatory and, you know, they need the mass of the population

00:21:02.620 to kind of go along with, with this very anti-natural, anti, you know, and all, and all

00:21:09.120 their, you know, philosophies and things they push are ultimately, you know, against any sort of real

00:21:15.540 definitive natural order. Nothing, nothing is defined. It's all, it's all subjective. It's all

00:21:21.880 ultimately, it's nothing. It's nothing. You know, it's what, and it really fits in with that.

00:21:26.420 I don't even call it the empire of nothing. Yeah. And it really fits in with that left-wing

00:21:30.720 agenda, like all of this perfectly, right? You can't know the truth or the, there is no definitive

00:21:37.240 truth on things, or we can be any gender we want to be, or, you know, it just goes on and on in this

00:21:43.960 kind of nebulous cloud of whatever you want it to be, as opposed to just the reality of things that

00:21:50.060 are really grounded in, in earth and truths and natural law and even true spiritual law, right?

00:21:57.120 Yep. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, this, this idea that, yeah, we can go ahead and, and be whatever

00:22:07.460 we want. You know, it's, there's, again, what they do is they take things that are, you know,

00:22:16.200 spiritual truths or they have some sort of grain of spiritual truth to them and they totally pervert

00:22:22.180 it. Um, you know, things like, like I said, the, the transgenderism thing. I mean, there is a,

00:22:30.400 see if I can find a, a quote here I'm looking for. Yeah. I mean, there's a quote from the

00:22:35.740 gospel of Thomas. It was, it's one of the older Gnostic gospels. And it says, uh, Jesus saying,

00:22:42.900 you know, when you make two one, when you make the inside as the outside, the outside is the inside,

00:22:48.580 the upper as the lower, and you make the male and the female into a single one so that the male is

00:22:53.960 not male and the female is not female. And when you make eyes in place of an eye and a hand in place

00:22:59.220 of a hand, foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you shall enter the kingdom.

00:23:03.420 Um, if you take that literally, um, you know, you can use that to justify, okay, well then I should,

00:23:12.740 I can be whatever sex or gender I, I want to be. Um, but that's not really how that's meant to be

00:23:20.000 taken. It's, it's, it's talking more about an internal process. It's, it's a process of that you

00:23:26.520 go through, through spiritual discipline and initiation where you seek to reconcile again,

00:23:32.940 the disparate, disparate elements of yourself. Um, it's not, you know, externalizing everything.

00:23:41.260 And again, it's, it's a, it's a materialistic ultimately approach to these things. And so it's a

00:23:46.980 way to really seek to evolve humanity without having to do the hard spiritual work that it takes

00:23:56.500 to do it right. That's what it is. Oh yeah, absolutely. Now, how do you think

00:24:01.740 this whole transhumanism thing comes into that? Cause it's all part of really ultimately this

00:24:06.840 trans agenda that it's going into something that's, uh, not human, that's not grounded in,

00:24:12.020 in natural law anymore. Yeah. I mean, transhumanism, you know, sits this elite vision of becoming gods

00:24:21.900 through, through technology rather than again, through, through spiritual discipline. It's,

00:24:26.760 it's, it's an attempt at a, at a shortcut because they can't get there the old fashioned way,

00:24:32.920 the way that's, that's meant to go the organic way, um, because they feel they're just too far gone.

00:24:39.360 Oh, they'll have to relinquish control. And it's something that's going to go horribly, horribly wrong.

00:24:44.440 Um, I remember, uh, a while ago, I, I listened to an interview with, uh, a remote viewer named Aaron

00:24:52.480 Donahue, who was very interesting character. And he was talking about, uh, he remote viewed, uh,

00:25:00.120 sometime into the future where we had gone into, you know, this idea that we're going to upload our

00:25:08.380 consciousness into, into the machine or into the hive or whatever it's going to be into AI. And that

00:25:15.160 essentially there was a virus and it had turned into a living hell. And, you know, I could definitely

00:25:20.760 see those kinds of scenarios possibly play out if we, you know, keep wanting to play, play God the way we

00:25:27.860 are. Um, one of the, the big influences on a lot of my work, um, and my, my perspective on,

00:25:36.340 on this kind of stuff comes from a guy named Rudolf Steiner, um, who spoke, uh, of, of things of the,

00:25:45.240 it's called the, the eighth sphere, um, which is this, uh, it's basically understood to kind of be

00:25:50.560 the, the hell realms that, that surround earth. It's really, you know, and I don't really like

00:25:55.700 the term hell at, you know, just because of all the sort of connotations it has, uh, with,

00:26:01.500 with people. I think it's really more of a garbage dump in a recycling plant. Um,

00:26:06.340 for lower energies to be processed. Um, but there are entities, uh, that, that live there.

00:26:13.240 And, you know, I, I'm one of those people, I think that, that AI, you know, like, like Elon Musk

00:26:18.560 say, we are unleashing the demon. I think, you know, transhumanism is a lot about attempting to,

00:26:24.680 to use AI as sort of a vessel for, for potentially these beings or, or, you know, in, in the same

00:26:31.680 time, allow these elites to become, you know, these, these God men, you know, ultimately

00:26:37.700 that's not going to work. Uh, it's, it's going to create a, a divergence in, in human beings.

00:26:44.700 And I think we are definitely at a time where there is a, there is a distinct fork in the

00:26:49.000 road, especially, you know, we have these MRNA injections and, and, you know, all these

00:26:54.120 other things that are, that are coming up and they're being pushed, you know, especially

00:26:57.480 with COVID has just been the great excuse to, to unleash all of this on a population that

00:27:04.460 was really kind of, you know, they weren't moving fast enough for, for the Davos crowd

00:27:09.840 liking. So they just had to, you know, looking to cram this down our throats. And I think

00:27:14.480 we are in the middle of the largest human experiment in history. And I am, you know, I, I try not

00:27:23.420 to hold too much fear in my heart because it doesn't really help me, but I can't help

00:27:28.420 to say that I'm a little terrified as to where this might go.

00:27:32.420 Yeah. Oh yeah. They're, they're going to push it. They're going to push it to very dark places,

00:27:37.420 but at the same time, there's always that, uh, a boomerang effect, right? That, that always

00:27:41.880 is going to happen. They, they're going to, they have a plan. They've set a plan. They think

00:27:45.480 it's going to go that way. They think they are gods now, right? That they can get away

00:27:49.360 with anything. But sometimes that's when, um, the big G's, you know, conjure up another

00:27:55.460 spirit, another force on the earth, another warrior spirit, which I see happening now

00:28:00.220 that will be a big backlash. It doesn't go just the way they want. And if they do plug

00:28:04.400 into these machines, I do hope that there's a virus that takes them to the equivalent of

00:28:08.680 hell where they can just like live out the rest of their days until they shrivel like a

00:28:13.520 raisin for all the crap that they've done. But yeah, let's talk about this, this global

00:28:17.140 religion, right? Being promoted by these Masons and these, uh, Talmudic, uh, you know, Talmudic

00:28:22.420 Judaism, uh, and Marxism, right, is helping to, to really reshape the image of man and think

00:28:28.620 themselves to be a god. You wrote a little bit about this.

00:28:34.100 Yeah. Um, so yeah, this is kind of global religion. I mean, it's, we have the idea of

00:28:39.880 the Jewish idea of tikkunalom, um, you know, this, this notion that the, the, the world itself

00:28:45.660 is, is imperfect. And in certain interpretations, this also includes the natural world. And of

00:28:52.100 course, uh, you know, as we've experienced it, it also includes, uh, white Europeans and,

00:28:58.400 and our societies. Um, and, you know, there are some interpretations, you know, where this

00:29:05.220 kind of Jewish Gnostic idea of, of the Adam Kadman being the new man, um, that will be created

00:29:10.560 through this repairing of the world. You know, in, in the Talmud itself, um, we see a central theme

00:29:16.600 that the Jews, you know, see themselves to, to be basically God on earth. Um, you know, this belief

00:29:23.940 system is, you know, one for another, uh, present in both religious and secular cultural Judaism. Um,

00:29:32.320 you know, it's, you know, kind of, I'm going to do my, my little PC caveat, I guess, because I

00:29:38.260 definitely, you know, I've had friends that are, that are Jews and, and, you know, they're not all

00:29:42.880 like evil, wicked people or whatever, but as a, as a cultural and a social force, um, it just is what

00:29:50.400 it is. I, I, you know, sorry, it offends people. Um, definitely lost some friends over that. Uh, but,

00:29:57.920 you know, and this, this kind of idea would be mirrored in, in sort of later secular and humanist

00:30:04.360 philosophy that, that enculturated into the West and, you know, moving to Freemasonry, um,

00:30:12.840 you know, kind of skipping over the, the, the, the mythological origins or, you know, Solomon's temple,

00:30:19.360 um, which is, which is interesting in itself because, I mean, if you, Solomon himself was very much,

00:30:27.400 uh, you know, he basically invited, you know, what they call foreign gods, which, which basically

00:30:33.340 meant, uh, you know, he was making treaties with, with foreign powers to, to, so he could become,

00:30:40.200 you know, a globalist, you know, at that time, kind of globalist trading nation, just like everybody

00:30:45.160 else. Um, and, you know, he was thought of as the great, you know, figure in, in Masonry,

00:30:52.880 along with, you know, the architect Hiram Abiff, but, you know, back to historical Masonry, you know,

00:30:58.480 a lot of these folks were students or of Talmudic rabbis who around the time that Masonry came about,

00:31:05.860 um, had decided that it was okay to start, you know, letting the, the Gentiles and certain Goyim,

00:31:13.800 uh, know about their, you know, things like the Kabbalah, which, you know, again,

00:31:19.760 is another one of those things that can be looked at or utilized in positive and negative ways,

00:31:24.920 I guess. I've, I, I've never really been too big into practicing. The Kabbalahs just seemed too

00:31:30.800 foreign to me. Some people do it, but, you know, the Masons themselves, they were, you know,

00:31:37.980 they, they were about the cities, um, and they're, you know, and, and this is this kind of spirituality,

00:31:45.240 I guess you want to call it, that was largely, you know, almost antagonistic to the more agrarian

00:31:52.220 peasant forms of spirituality that, that existed. And much of the, the kind of modern world is based

00:31:58.280 on this, this war of these, of urban elitists against, uh, you know, rural traditions and rural

00:32:06.020 folk. Um, you know, again, not to say that these, uh, you know, all these philosophies and practices

00:32:12.260 are inherently evil, you know, things like alchemy and, and, you know, the hermetic texts that came

00:32:17.320 out of the Renaissance that were, they were founded, they were funded by, you know, folks like the

00:32:23.280 Medici's and, and banking clans because ultimately they found it served their self-interest. It was

00:32:31.380 able, they were able to use it as a solvent to break down traditional structures and break down

00:32:37.360 traditional orders. Um, it's kind of this, uh, sort of, uh, chthonic force, um, that was basically,

00:32:46.500 you know, you seek to, to level the old order, the old traditional orders that are there, uh, with

00:32:53.000 these forces so you can eventually remake it, uh, to, to more of your own liking. Um, but yeah,

00:33:00.820 no, be it, you know, it's Talmudic Jews or Masons, you know, it's even if their ideological ancestors,

00:33:09.180 like the Phoenicians and Babylonians, you know, all these groups, uh, had a culture kind of deer,

00:33:14.940 geared more towards the, the merchant, merchant, mercantile cast of society that, that's always kind

00:33:20.600 of been the perpetual outsider, uh, in, in the ancient medieval world. And, and so it's, it's

00:33:27.680 basically a victory of the merchant class and, you know, the, you know, the self-interest of these

00:33:33.740 merchant and banking cabals was, you know, the, the driving force behind Marxism as well. Um, you know,

00:33:40.160 it's also, you know, the French Revolution before it, um, and all these things were promoted and funded

00:33:47.080 by these, you know, wealthy oligarchs and groups to further their own self-interest. You have the,

00:33:53.500 you know, new Soviet man that, that was talked about in, in communist Marxist-Leninism, um, that was

00:34:00.320 supposed to arise out of this communist utopia, um, and all these things. It was, again, it's,

00:34:07.940 it's part of this recurring theme that we see where, you know, we have concepts that attempt to mirror a

00:34:12.980 spiritual quest for self-mastery, but doing so through inherently materialistic and, and anti-spiritual

00:34:19.640 methods and philosophies. That's right. And we see that today with, uh, their talk of ending racism,

00:34:25.620 right? So in order to end racism and all conflict and strife in the world, which this planet isn't

00:34:30.760 about that, right? Uh, one thing that we need to do is all blend into this new man, this new, uh,

00:34:36.180 global man where we're all mixed together and there's no countries, there's no borders or boundaries,

00:34:41.800 uh, you know, we don't care about our heritage and our history because then that will create

00:34:46.780 peace. I think that's another perversion that's taking that other Soviet new man to,

00:34:51.700 to this day and age, like their plans of what they want to do. And I, I think another thing too,

00:34:57.520 you mentioned of they're, they're using these things to benefit themselves, right? Some of this

00:35:02.280 occult knowledge. And one of those things is a hijacking really the, this divine feminine idea

00:35:07.500 and using, um, you know, the feminist movement, right? Leveling masculinity, right? To, to, to remake

00:35:14.800 it into basically these beta males that are easy to control, right? But we keep hearing about the

00:35:19.260 divine feminine in these new age circles, you know, it was, I was hearing about it for years. I was just

00:35:24.060 like, enough of it already, how we've shifted from this masculine rule to feminine. So let's talk

00:35:29.780 about this perversion of the masculine feminine balance and how both have been basically reduced,

00:35:34.620 as you say in the book is a caricatures of themselves. Yeah. I mean, they, they really

00:35:39.900 are. I mean, you know, masculine and feminine itself. I mean, we're, we're talking about polarities,

00:35:46.600 you know, like polarities, like the poles on a battery or, you know, I think the best it's like

00:35:52.040 yin and yang. Um, you know, each, each is, they compliment each other, but each are, are distinct and

00:35:58.440 they have their own characteristics in nature and, and they're meant to exist like that. Um,

00:36:07.640 and, but, you know, they need to coexist and they need to work together and they have specific,

00:36:13.540 you know, roles and functions and characteristics that need to be understood and respected. Um,

00:36:22.060 you know, I think of, you know, there is a Gnostic myth of, uh, Sophia, um, one of the, basically the,

00:36:31.360 the great goddess of, of Gnosticism and how she was basically attempted to create on her own without

00:36:42.380 the masculine counterpart. And she essentially, uh, made a monster, um, things like that. Uh, you know,

00:36:51.180 we have in ancient times, uh, let's say in, in Babylon and Phoenicia, there was the, the carnival of

00:36:59.040 Ishtar, um, where they would set aside certain, you know, a certain period of time for, for folks to

00:37:07.920 basically, you know, invert society or, well, there was basically, uh, it was, it was more of a, uh,

00:37:14.340 sort of a focused inversion, you know, it had its place, it had its time, but, you know, in larger

00:37:21.020 society, you know, they still maintain the, the masculine principles that were used to govern and

00:37:25.820 order. Um, you know, but now we're in a state of, of constant carnival and, and tearing down what's

00:37:33.000 left of the old institutions to rebuild the new world. You know, we don't have,

00:37:37.920 you know, this, this idea that there's, okay, there is this, this darker feminine force. Um,

00:37:44.820 and really what it is, it's, it's the, it's, you know, speaking from a, from a spiritual perspective,

00:37:52.080 it's, it's the, it's what's known as the abyss or it's, it's kind of like the, like a black mirror

00:37:59.340 and it reflects everything inside of you and everything inside of humanity that need, it's,

00:38:07.260 it's all, it shows you all your monsters, but your monsters are there for you to overcome and cross

00:38:12.420 over the abyss and you go into, into the light of the solar sun. Um, and again, it's this idea that

00:38:21.280 the dark feminine is there to test us and to help us cross over into the, into the solar. Um, but again,

00:38:32.920 this is being used, you know, things like feminism. Um, you know, it's, it's, it's this inverted feminism,

00:38:38.300 I'm this inverted feminine and it, it's, it's socially, it's been used to really fool women

00:38:44.660 into thinking that motherhood is oppressive and that working as wage slaves is freedom, which is

00:38:51.020 baffling when you really think about, but that's, that's what it is. It's, and, you know,

00:38:57.380 it's very anti-feminine, isn't it? You know, we have these, these, um, kind of weakened,

00:39:04.880 emasculated, uh, really now toxic men, because it's, you know, it's not that masculinity itself

00:39:12.240 is, is toxic. It's, it's that it's been made toxic by a world that wants to destroy it. It's,

00:39:20.320 you know, men, men as men are inherently dangerous to any sort of overarching system of control. Um,

00:39:32.180 so we need to be broken down as well. Um, and it, it, again, it, it manifests either as,

00:39:39.160 you know, super weak, super effeminate or men who overcompensate and basically just act like

00:39:45.920 children. You know, we are in a world of adult children. Um, you know, that, that is unfortunately

00:39:52.640 what it is. Um, you know, we, you know, people don't want responsibilities. They, they, they just

00:40:00.280 want to, you know, they want freedom without the responsibility of having it. And, and freedom

00:40:05.380 in, in the modern sense is just, I want to be able to do whatever I want. And, you know, it's,

00:40:11.800 it's, again, all of this is used against us. It is used, uh, basically to break down, you know,

00:40:20.940 whatever's left of, of things like, you know, traditional society, you know, the family,

00:40:25.920 you know, the tribe, you know, all these organic, you know, organic ways of, of living and being,

00:40:33.380 um, you know, that's, you know, unfortunately it's doing a lot of damage to, to people, to men,

00:40:41.480 women, and, and frankly, children, it's, it's, it's destroying the way kids are growing up now.

00:40:46.780 Um, and yes, I mean, I'm, I myself am, and somebody who came from, uh, a divorced home and, and, you

00:40:54.700 know, didn't have, you know, definitely, I did have a father figure, but definitely didn't grow up

00:41:01.220 with a, uh, you know, a father in the traditional sense. And, you know, it's one of those things where

00:41:05.480 I've had to spend my adult life working to discipline myself and working to discover, you know,

00:41:12.820 that true masculine force within me and what that means, um, as opposed to having somebody guide me

00:41:19.320 through that and seek out initiations on my own. Wow. Yeah, I know. And there's a lot of guys in

00:41:25.200 that situation too, unfortunately, it's like, it used to be the older generations, they would teach

00:41:30.040 what it is to be a man, you know, they go through their initiations or, or being a woman, like how

00:41:34.260 important it is a family and having children and all those things. That's all gone out the window

00:41:38.740 through all this, uh, programming and, and equality is one of the things I want to get into this,

00:41:43.620 this obsession, uh, with equity and equality. It's just like, it's insane. It's like people are

00:41:50.980 just psychotic about it. So I want to talk about where that stems from, because you had a chapter

00:41:55.000 where you were basically talking about, uh, Indo-Aryan humanitarianism and kind of, uh, some of the

00:42:01.680 roots of where the stems from. And I found that to be really interesting. So maybe you could give us

00:42:05.440 just like a brief summary of that. Yeah, I mean, that was, uh, honestly, first and foremost,

00:42:14.460 I think, you know, I, I came across that idea, uh, from a fellow who's also a fellow, uh, Arctos

00:42:21.300 author, I'm sure a lot of people know, uh, Jason Residore Johnny, um, and his work and his lectures

00:42:27.000 and writings on, on Persia and its role in, and ancient, uh, and in development of, you know,

00:42:32.480 Europe as well. Um, there are a lot of your, your, you know, viewers and listeners will know that,

00:42:39.100 you know, ancient Persia, um, they, you know, were, most of them were, you know, of Indo-European

00:42:47.120 stock, uh, which, you know, similar to those of us, uh, you know, from Europe, uh, European descent,

00:42:52.960 uh, Western Europe and Eastern Europe. Um, but, you know, it was this idea that, you know,

00:42:59.380 spiritual principles, uh, needed to be embodied in, in earthly law, uh, to create a just society.

00:43:07.380 Um, and that to orient the society in that manner would, would help it to, to reach, uh, godliness.

00:43:14.660 Um, I think it was, uh, called Senta Manu. Um, you know, obviously a problem with, with, with anything,

00:43:22.020 you know, like that, you know, is, is it can have trappings of, uh, you know, utopianism in, in that

00:43:31.780 we can, you know, if we're looking to mirror the divine, we can potentially do it in a perverse,

00:43:38.420 materialistic way and ultimately lose, um, what we were looking to do. But I think the,

00:43:44.580 the, you know, this idea of, you know, cause Cyrus the Great, he was, uh, definitely about,

00:43:53.460 as I said, looking to, to create this, this sort of, uh, uh, divine kingdom. Um, and,

00:44:01.860 you know, we have, uh, in, in our traditions, in, in Western European traditions, in, in, as a,

00:44:07.780 in general, you know, we look at, you know, ancient Germanic law and the positions of, of women

00:44:12.180 and Celtic and Germanic culture. Um, I, myself, I, in my blog, especially, I didn't talk too much

00:44:20.980 about it in the book because it's something that warrants its own. And eventually I might get to

00:44:25.380 writing a book on this. Um, I was always fascinated or I've been fascinated for several years, uh, by,

00:44:31.380 uh, the Oralinda book. Um, I think you've also had, uh, Jan Ott on your show a couple of times here,

00:44:38.180 and they really speak of, uh, you know, an ancient, uh, your proto, it would be basically

00:44:45.540 considered a proto-Indo-European, uh, culture, um, where it was very much about, you know,

00:44:53.060 a just society, uh, freedom, but, but, you know, responsibility, uh, for those freedoms. It was

00:45:00.020 about having, you know, people having, uh, equality under the law. Yeah, that's different. That's a

00:45:06.340 different thing. Yeah. I'd say equality. I would say, yeah, that's, that's a different thing.

00:45:11.620 Equality under the law, this is a great thing, right? We, we do want true justice and, and being

00:45:16.020 treated equal under the law, but what there, what we're seeing today is just a total perversion,

00:45:20.100 right? It's a totally gone mad when it comes to equality, but anyway, go on.

00:45:26.180 Yeah, no, it's, it definitely, cause it's, you know, equality under the law does not mean,

00:45:30.020 you know, we're all equal in, you know, every facet, you know, this idea that we need, you know,

00:45:36.660 everybody needs to be made the same. Um, you know, all you're going to do, all you do is create a race

00:45:42.420 to the bottom, you know, it's, it's just appealing to the lowest common denominator rather than,

00:45:47.940 you know, on the one hand, seeking to raise people up, uh, you know, not just through, you know,

00:45:54.660 providing basic needs and things like that, but creating a culture that, that seeks to drive

00:46:00.340 them to strive to be the best that they are, the best that they can be and, and manifest out of

00:46:05.460 themselves, um, instead of doing that, because that's too hard, you know, in that, in that empowered,

00:46:12.020 and, and, you know, in, in modern sense, you know, the terms of the, the ruling elite we have,

00:46:16.260 that would empower people too much. Um, so instead we need something that's, that's basically

00:46:22.900 create the society of, again, grown children whining because the other kid has a toy that they don't.

00:46:33.300 Pretty much.

00:46:34.020 That's unfortunately where we're at.

00:46:36.260 And now it's become real victim culture. You had a chapter on why I no longer fight for

00:46:40.020 social justice. And you talk about how these groups are, they aren't in it fighting against

00:46:44.340 the man, right? Really. It's really about power and it's about money. And you said,

00:46:49.140 while it's appealing to the part of ourselves that identifies with the victim,

00:46:52.340 this critical theory, social justice belief system is just that a belief system. You said

00:46:56.660 it's low hanging fruit to those who are actually on the path of spiritual development. So let's get

00:47:01.460 into this, uh, social justice movement a bit and your thoughts.

00:47:06.260 Social justice. Um, yeah, I see the, the, the trigger for me. I mean, part of, part of the,

00:47:13.700 the impetus for me writing that and writing about social justice and things like that so much was

00:47:17.860 because I used to professionally work in that, in that, that environment. I, that was how I came to

00:47:26.340 be where I am was originally taking a job, uh, with, uh, organized labor at the time, uh, seems like

00:47:33.860 another lifetime ago. Um, and, and at this point, all my, uh, my former friends or associates there have

00:47:41.380 definitely, uh, uh, uh, I'm on the blacklist, we'll say. Um, but it's, yeah, I mean, you know,

00:47:49.540 these, these groups, these organizations, you know, like the one I worked for, like, you know,

00:47:54.340 black lives matter organization, all that, you know, first and foremost, they're, they're ultimately

00:47:58.980 self-serving. Um, they, if, if, if, if the problems that they fight for went away, then they wouldn't

00:48:08.260 exist. They wouldn't be getting their money. They wouldn't be getting their prestige or whatever else,

00:48:13.540 you know, that justifies their existence. Um, and ultimately, you know, if you're, you're not a rebel,

00:48:22.020 if you're, if you're getting a paycheck from an organization that's supposedly fighting the power

00:48:29.780 structure, meanwhile, they're putting in candidates that are part of the power structure, you know,

00:48:36.260 I, I was basically just, just working to, to get Democrats in office. That's, that's really what it

00:48:41.300 was about. You know, we kind of laughed about it at the time, but it's, it's, you know, that's what it

00:48:45.140 was, you know, they're just used to advance the, the neoliberal power structure itself and kind of

00:48:51.860 corral any sort of folks that, that might actually want to rebel into these approved, approved camps

00:49:01.940 into these, you know, approved, approved outlets, you know, like a, like a, like a steam valve or

00:49:07.140 something like that to, you know, so it helps people feel like, oh, they belong, you know,

00:49:12.900 they feel like they belong to something. Everybody likes to belong to stuff. And, you know, that's really

00:49:18.100 what it was. I gotta ask, what changed, what changed your mind then? What pulled you out of

00:49:21.700 that whole scene of the social justice warrior? Um, well, it was funny because I guess I was always

00:49:30.740 kind of at a dichot, a bit of a dissonance, I guess, you know, I came in to being politically

00:49:40.180 involved from my, my old sensei who also was the one who got me and, you know, looked at the new age

00:49:46.580 stuff. Um, he introduced me to Ron Paul and Alex Jones of all things. Nice. So I would go out

00:49:53.700 canvassing, knocking on the door, talking about, you know, healthcare reform or whatever kind of,

00:49:59.620 kind of BS we were talking about at the time. And, you know, I was listening to info wars on my lunch

00:50:05.220 spree. Um, so that's kind of where years ago. So obviously that kind of distance couldn't hold.

00:50:12.900 Yeah, exactly. And it was just, I would, you know, hear, you know, the kind of talking points like

00:50:19.620 this idea that, oh, you know, these tea party people, you know, that was the thing at the time,

00:50:24.900 just back 2010, 2011, 2012, um, these tea party people, they're, they're all racist. And that's kind

00:50:30.900 of why they do things. And it's just like, no, it's, it's really, it's really not what it's about.

00:50:38.180 It's, it's again, it's, it's a, uh, a car, you know, and anyone from, from the left and liberalism

00:50:45.940 in general, they only know right wing thought of any kind. And I mean, you know, the whole Alice

00:50:53.380 Jones libertarian thing, that's, you can argue that's even a really right wing. I mean, you can argue

00:50:58.820 if American conservatism is really right, right wing, but you know, these folks, they only know,

00:51:04.900 the average liberal only knows the right from the writings of their enemies. You know, they know them

00:51:10.980 and they know us caricature, uh, and it's, it makes things, it's easier that way. And it's also easier

00:51:17.780 to demonize people when you don't really know the complexities or the ins and outs of what they are

00:51:23.700 actually standing for, what they actually believe or want and all of this.

00:51:27.140 Yeah. It gets them out of having to debate them because there's some big things that need to be

00:51:31.300 answered there. And it's easy to corner those people with just a simple line of questioning.

00:51:36.500 I wanted to get your opinion on why the attack on European people, white people, if you will,

00:51:41.860 in terms of, um, physical, but also the spiritual aspects. Why is it, why the obsession to war against

00:51:49.940 our people right now?

00:51:54.340 Well, um, so there, there's the, what I would say, you know, might be somewhat obvious answer. And

00:52:01.140 there is a, a very long standing, uh, grudge, uh, from, I don't know, that's from a certain tribe of

00:52:09.380 people. You know, there, there's definitely a long standing Jewish grudge against white Europeans and,

00:52:15.860 and traditional, you know, European Christians. And it's historical and it, it, it has, you know,

00:52:22.500 it has its roots, you know, far back, uh, you know, you have, you know, this, you know, back to,

00:52:29.700 to Rome and, and, you know, Phoenicia and, and older than that, um, you know, where it come from

00:52:37.060 or, or, or why, you know, we can, you know, I guess, going back to the middle ages, you know,

00:52:42.820 there was definitely, you know, this idea that, that Jews or Talmudic Jews in particular, um, you

00:52:49.700 know, who's, again, were, were protesters and ancestors and then of the new age movement and are

00:52:58.820 particularly with Kabbalah and are still very much, uh, involved now, uh, you know, it's, you know,

00:53:05.780 Jewish people are, are speckled throughout the new age movement, you know, they can, you go from,

00:53:10.900 you know, the integral stuff to, you know, they're Buddhist people and teachers and, and,

00:53:18.580 you know, channelers and all this kind of stuff. Um, and, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's ultimately

00:53:24.900 a grudge of resentment, uh, I, I would say, um, they, but there also could be other aspects of it.

00:53:33.540 Like I said, I've, you know, talking about the, the Aura Linda book, um, it definitely does talk

00:53:38.740 about, um, ancient, almost kind of, uh, racial type grudges that are going on, um, and things like

00:53:47.220 that, you know, there's, there have been people like, I want to say, Miguel Serrano and, and others

00:53:54.180 kind of in the more right-wing sort of, uh, new age, uh, that, that was, you know, there around the

00:53:59.780 turn of the century and, and just after the, uh, World War II, um, talking about the sort of,

00:54:05.860 you know, you know, Jewish being, you know, Jews being the, the agents of the archons and, and these

00:54:13.140 kind of forces, um, you know, I don't know. It could be something that, that is an inherent

00:54:21.780 archetypal drive. Um, you know, I, I, I believe, you know, ultimately it's, it's, it serves a role

00:54:29.540 in, in forging us as far as through opposition, through adversaries. So, I mean, it's definitely,

00:54:35.860 I guess, helpful in that way. Um, but, you know, I will say, I know, you know, white Europeans

00:54:44.100 in general, uh, we have, uh, a long history and, again, even going back to the, the, the idea of

00:54:52.820 the Oralinda book, if you think about it as a potential history of, of, you know, pre-Indo-Europeans,

00:54:59.060 um, or proto-Indo-Europeans, I should say, uh, they were very much opposed to slavery, uh, and,

00:55:05.540 you know, it's, it's something that we've had a, had a tradition of, you know, we have always demanded,

00:55:10.660 uh, more justice. We, we have high justice, you know, societies, you know, we, we are very big into

00:55:18.100 law, you know, we have our breed on law, the common law, um, you know, of course, the

00:55:24.020 constitution, which, you know, has its issues, but is definitely, you know, stems from that,

00:55:30.100 particularly the, the bill of rights, which was from the anti-federalists who were actually

00:55:33.620 vehemently opposed to the constitution, but I think they were the best part of it.

00:55:36.980 Um, and, and us being, having these standards, uh, is troublesome for a global oligarchy that's

00:55:45.060 bent on totalitarian control of all aspects of human life.

00:55:48.260 Oh yeah. And look at us. We're the one demographic that's

00:55:51.220 largely standing up against, uh, vaccines and this globalist regime and all these horrible things that

00:55:56.820 we're trying to push against us. We're the loudest ones, right? I mean, that's why they just call it

00:56:00.900 basically this, uh, anti-COVID jab movement. They call it a far right extremist, racist,

00:56:06.660 white supremacist movement. Oh, it is. Um, definitely, I don't think, uh, one of my favorite, uh,

00:56:13.780 developments, honestly, out of the whole COVID thing has been, you know, the talk of, or this,

00:56:20.980 this kind of move against what's called like kind of conspireality, conspirituality culture.

00:56:28.100 Um, and, uh, there's several articles that have come out here in the last, uh, year or so,

00:56:33.380 you know, lamenting about, well, all the, the normally, you know, kind of lefty

00:56:39.700 wagey sort of wellness movement has, has, has joined with, with, with, with Q and, and these far

00:56:47.140 right Nazis. I'm like, you know, I'm just kind of thinking back. It's like, oh, cool. I've been doing

00:56:51.700 this for a while, but it's, it's, it's refreshing. It's refreshing to see. And I think, you know,

00:56:57.940 it's, that's something that I have a lot of, a lot of hope for. Yeah, me too. Definitely.

00:57:02.020 It's, it's a plus. Wellness is a huge thing. That's right. It's a plus. There's always going

00:57:05.220 to be that boomerang effect, right? So there's always going to be a reaction. I also wanted to

00:57:10.100 get into, um, cause time is ticking. So, so many things in your book I wanted to get into, but, uh,

00:57:14.740 blood and soil, the importance of ancestors and all that. And part of that is tribalism. Now,

00:57:20.020 a lot of times I hear conservatives are always down on tribalism, right? They, they lump tribalism

00:57:24.340 in with negative actions like greed and fear, but everything is tribal. Everyone is tribal. Everyone

00:57:29.860 is guilty of it. You even say, whether you're in a sewing club or military or political group,

00:57:34.660 that's all tribalism, right? You're, you're coming together with people that you, you agree with and

00:57:40.180 you have common interests with and you're, you're fighting for something, right? And in our case,

00:57:45.780 yeah, yeah. And it's not this bad thing. And then of course they have the, uh, globalist elitists,

00:57:49.860 you know, sure. They're, they're a tribe, if you will, even though there's lots of infighting and

00:57:53.700 they're doing their things, but why is it important? Uh, tribalism and blood and soil,

00:58:00.580 you get into like the blood of our ancestors. That's important because there's a tribal component

00:58:05.300 that's genetic. And then there's a tribal component of, of people that just have some shared, you know,

00:58:10.740 interests, but we're never going to get away from this tribalism thing. And it's, it's going more,

00:58:16.180 more down that path, which, uh, which I support because this idea of these big countries and these

00:58:21.140 big regions, it's just things are too divided and too chaotic. So now people are thinking more in

00:58:26.420 terms of small, smaller locally, finding, finding your tribe, finding your village. And I feel like

00:58:32.100 that's a step in the right direction to be able to weather some things that may be potentially coming.

00:58:36.900 Yeah. I mean, you know, this idea or this belief that, that there could be some kind of post tribal

00:58:47.460 human or, or, or, or, you know, this, this attempt to make, you know, to, to atomize us and to make us

00:58:53.700 these completely deracinated roots, rootless cogs in a machine, really, you know, that's, that's,

00:58:58.740 that's what it's about, you know, meant to be, you know, replaceable cogs in a machine that,

00:59:03.380 that, you know, have no origin and just have the history that is written for us on, you know,

00:59:10.820 whatever, whatever day, you know, the media decides to say this story is for that story is true.

00:59:16.340 Um, but it's, it's ultimately, you know, you're not going to make a human, uh, not tribal anymore

00:59:22.980 than you're going to make a dog or, or, or wolf that doesn't want to run in packs or a bee that

00:59:28.420 doesn't want to be part of a hive or something like that. It's, it's natural. It's, it's, it's

00:59:34.100 part of the, the, the fabric of, of our nature. And I believe that, you know, nature itself is

00:59:42.660 intelligent and, you know, the, the nature that we see on earth is a reflection of, of higher cosmic

00:59:48.660 law and order and realities. And, you know, speaking of, of, you know, talking about ancestry,

00:59:54.580 um, you know, I believe that, you know, we need to fully actualize ourselves and, and our ancestry is

01:00:03.460 a big part of that. Um, they literally made us, they are the chain that, that created us and,

01:00:10.180 you know, on our, in many ways and there's strength and wisdom there. And I think it'd be foolish not to

01:00:16.580 utilize it. I know in my own practice, um, I have a little shrine to my, my ancestors and some

01:00:24.340 grandparents and great grandparents and great, great grandparents up there. And I, you know, I

01:00:31.060 seek to honor them and, you know, ask them for their, their strength and their guidance. And if I'm

01:00:35.700 doing a communion, I'll, I'll invite them to come in and come into communion with me. Um, and it's,

01:00:42.660 you know, I think it's, it's, it's something that it's, it's part of, part of who we are and

01:00:50.020 the idea that we need to, you know, discard who we are, we need to pretend that it doesn't exist or

01:00:58.420 pretend that it does, that it isn't important, um, is, is, is not good. And it's not, not healthy,

01:01:05.380 you know, to, for us to live in, in these kinds of societies that we live in that, that, that sees

01:01:11.460 these things as, as a negative or don't really value them. I mean, even, you know, I came from,

01:01:17.460 from rural Maine and even there, um, you know, we were, you know, we're white, but we didn't really

01:01:26.020 think about our, you know, the deeper, what that means. And I mean, yes, it, you know, this is my,

01:01:30.900 my skin color. It's, it's part of who I am and it's, and it's a representative of, of my ancestry and

01:01:36.580 who I am, but you know, there's, there's more to that. Like there's more to, you know, I, I like to

01:01:41.460 learn about my ancestors. I've had been fortunate enough to walk on the grounds in Scotland where my

01:01:48.180 ancestors lived, uh, long before I even knew that they, that they were actually there. That was where

01:01:54.180 my, my clan was from. Cool. Um, and it's, it adds a, it adds a richness, uh, to, to your life and,

01:02:02.500 and, and, you know, in my own shamanic practices that I've, that I would do years ago. Um, I would

01:02:09.700 always kind of find myself coming into contact with these sort of, uh, ancestral sort of Northern

01:02:15.540 European archetypes and they would, they would always pop up and, you know, there's, again, there,

01:02:20.500 there's wisdom and there's, there's, there's things there to be gleaned that I think is, is,

01:02:26.020 would be wrong for us not to take advantage of them. Wrong for us not to honor these people that,

01:02:31.380 that, you know, we're foundational to, to who we are and be grateful for them and the sacrifices

01:02:36.340 they made. It's almost a way of, I think of almost reincarnation because we are all those that have gone

01:02:42.580 before us, right? People talk about ancestral blood memories or, uh, Stephen McNallan talking about,

01:02:47.380 you know, tribal genetic memories or, uh, chains of, uh, ancestral connections. There's a lot of folk

01:02:53.780 wisdom there, right? That that's imparted that you tap into. And that's why it's so important,

01:02:59.140 I think, to get in touch with, as they say, blood and soil, right? Because with that comes all this

01:03:05.140 other knowledge and self-actualization. And I think that's why they're so terrified of European people,

01:03:11.460 like getting back in touch with that, being growing up in America, me too, growing up in Oregon,

01:03:15.780 like you didn't, Oh, I'm, I'm white or whatever. I knew I was Russian though. So I had a whole

01:03:20.100 heritage and history there, but I didn't know how far deep it was. You know, there was all these

01:03:25.300 things I didn't learn about because no one tells you about these things, or you just learn about

01:03:30.020 just like basic tier American history. But as an American, you don't think of yourself as European

01:03:35.140 and that there's this old rich tribal culture and heritage there and folk religions. And I mean,

01:03:40.820 that's really life changing, I think, for, for especially growing up in America, when you've

01:03:45.220 learned some of those things, and then it makes you want to dive into the history of where your

01:03:49.060 people were, what did they do? And am I kind of following in their legacy, you know? And some

01:03:54.260 of those things I've unconsciously picked up on. It was like, Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Some of my,

01:03:59.380 my great grandparents and stuff, they were, they were on Bolshevik lists, you know, they were hunted down

01:04:04.740 back then. And so I'm just basically following in the line of those who have gone before me,

01:04:09.140 but it's a, it's a pretty cool realization when you tap into that. And I think there's a lot of

01:04:13.060 power and strength that you can draw upon there. Like you said, that you will call out to them

01:04:17.620 when you're doing things. And, and I do that too, if I, if I'm meditating or praying and like,

01:04:21.620 I could feel, you feel them with you, you know, you feel them watching over you. And that's,

01:04:26.260 that's very important.

01:04:30.500 Yeah. I mean, it's, like I said, I'm like, again, like, like you're saying, I'm, you know,

01:04:36.260 learning about my ancestors and, you know, again, learning to be, to be grateful for them,

01:04:42.500 I think is, is again, so, so important. And, you know, as far as, uh, you know, the reincarnation,

01:04:49.860 I mean, that's, that's definitely, you know, there's, you know, blood memory and things like

01:04:54.100 that. There are indigenous tribes all over the world that, that do still talk about that. You know,

01:04:58.900 we, as, as Europeans, we've been gone through such a, such a process to, to sort of purge all this,

01:05:07.380 all this from us and all this kind of, you know, traditional, you know, ways of thinking and being

01:05:12.980 and doing. And it's, it's, it's been a process that's happened over, over centuries now. And,

01:05:18.020 you know, even, even with America, that was also another state stage in, in that kind of us

01:05:22.980 becoming very, very rootless, you know, but, you know, I think, you know, we need to be,

01:05:31.140 you know, as, as physical and spiritual beings, we need to be like trees. Yes, we have our, our

01:05:36.420 branches extended towards, towards heaven and the divine and cosmic and all that. We also need to

01:05:41.140 be rooted in here, uh, rooted in, in, in what we are and where we come from. And I think that's,

01:05:47.940 that's, that's important. And it's something that's just being, you know, completely under

01:05:52.260 attacked by a system that just wants to erase all distinctions and all boundaries, you know,

01:05:58.580 I mean, on the, on the base surface level, you know, because, you know, racing any sort of

01:06:04.020 boundaries and sovereignty, you know, makes things easier for global commerce. Uh, but there's,

01:06:10.420 you know, definitely a spiritual component to that too. Um, in that you're just, you know,

01:06:17.060 it's an attempt to, it's paved over nature. It's, it's, it's an attempt to, to replace nature with,

01:06:23.460 with an, with, with an artifice. And again, you know, this all goes back to the transhumanism

01:06:28.500 things. I mean, it all kind of is interconnected. This is sort of impulse to, to, to do what's,

01:06:35.620 what's being done, um, is, is very, very deep. And, you know, spiritually speaking, you know,

01:06:44.820 through our blood, you know, we are, we are connected to our ancestors and they do live on

01:06:50.900 through us. And I do believe in the spiritual component of the blood and how it is a medium,

01:06:57.540 again, for, for divine impulses to come through and to be manifest and made whole through us.

01:07:02.980 Yeah. You also get into Jungian psychology. Now I love Jung too, uh, a lot. And basically like

01:07:09.940 looking into the shadow and the collective unconscious, and it feels like we're really

01:07:13.540 in that period right now as a people, specifically Europeans, where we're, we're experiencing,

01:07:18.740 we're really taking a hard look at the shadow self, right? A lot of the weaknesses and the dark

01:07:22.900 spots and we're dealing with that. So really it's a spiritual alchemical kind of great work that we're

01:07:28.740 going through this, uh, transformation process, right? Not like the Barbara Spector one, but the,

01:07:33.380 the true and deep, like spiritual thing. So what do you think that we are fighting,

01:07:39.700 fighting for like, uh, physically, I know this is huge, uh, physically, spiritually, like

01:07:45.860 our mission is, is it perfection? Are we trying to find our way somewhere else? Like,

01:07:50.900 what do you think is going on here? I know we could speculate all day long on that, but.

01:07:54.580 Yeah. I mean, we can definitely speculate. I mean, I know, you know, there is this idea of,

01:08:01.220 I mean, it's, it's talked about in the Bible and in, you know, in other ways, in other places,

01:08:07.700 um, you know, it's new heaven and new earth, this idea that we are, you know, ultimately seeking to

01:08:14.100 ascend and transmute ourselves, uh, and, and at the same time, while the earth is being transmuted

01:08:22.580 into a higher form of ourselves and itself, because us and the earth, we're, we're, we're,

01:08:29.380 we're together. This is this idea that there's going to be some, some post human earth. I, I don't

01:08:36.020 buy into that for a second. I think, I think that's, it's like where we are part of it. We are,

01:08:41.700 you know, we can't be separated from it. Um, and so I think that we are ultimately looking to,

01:08:50.740 uh, embody these, these higher spiritual forces within ourselves. Um, and you know,

01:08:56.660 this kind of gets into the, uh, the kind of solar king, uh, Christ or logos figure, you know,

01:09:01.620 the logos itself being the, the ordering principle of nature and, and the force of the, of the sun,

01:09:06.820 uh, physically and spiritually and the spiritual aspects of the sun. Um, and you know, this kind

01:09:14.100 of solar king figure acting, you know, ultimately as a mediator or transformer and it sort of steps

01:09:20.100 down these, these higher cosmic energies. So it can be used by us and help to evolve us while at the

01:09:26.740 same time, you know, these mediators will help step it down. So, because you know, these higher cosmic

01:09:32.740 forces, uh, without being mediated can also potentially destroy physically and, and psychologically,

01:09:39.540 that's, you know, also a danger in any kind of occult practice or anything like that. If,

01:09:45.220 you know, if you're not ready, if you have not done the internal work, um, you start monkeying around

01:09:51.300 with stuff, you know, you can, it can have, uh, issues. It can have, uh, consequences on your,

01:09:57.940 on your mental, emotional health. Um, I know in my communion ritual that I do, um, I seek myself to

01:10:08.020 kind of, in turn, act as a mediator and trans transformer for the, the kind of Christ and solar

01:10:14.340 power in myself. And as well as, you know, kind of a prayer that, you know, bringing my ancestors and,

01:10:19.700 and, you know, really for, for the entirety of humanity. I mean, first, you know, when I pray first

01:10:25.940 and foremost, it's, it's for those that I love, those that are closest to me, um, you know, my tribe,

01:10:32.580 so to speak. And, you know, those around me that, that have been brought into my life. I believe

01:10:38.980 everybody that's, that's in my life is there for a specific reason. And that I have, you know, some

01:10:44.740 kind of ties and obligation there. Um, I pray for my people, my folk, um, you know, those from the

01:10:51.220 European and, you know, I call the, the, the children of Fria and I then will pray for, you know,

01:10:57.620 the folks of, of other races and, you know, the other beings and animals and, and the earth, but,

01:11:03.700 you know, it's, I think it's definitely important, you know, when we're doing prayer or any kind of

01:11:10.100 service, you know, to have, you know, we need to keep our priorities in order and, you know, those,

01:11:19.460 you know, those of us who are closest to us in our lives, you know, they need to be what we're

01:11:23.940 thinking of first and, you know, kind of go on from there. But, you know, the idea that the sun

01:11:31.540 sacrifices itself, uh, literally and mythologically, you know, kind of going back to the whole Jungian

01:11:36.660 aspect of, of these archetypes and the, the solar king archetype and the king archetype in general,

01:11:43.860 um, it's, it's ancient and it's, you know, this idea that, you know, the king in ancient times

01:11:51.940 was thought to embody, um, thought to be, be a god or specifically a lot of time was, was embodying the,

01:11:58.580 the, the, the solar forces or solar spirits and would seek again, it's like this idea of the,

01:12:07.220 the Indo-Aryan, uh, spirituality and humanitarianism. The chapter there is talking about, you know,

01:12:13.540 seeking to bring the divine down into the earth, uh, speaking, seeking to bring it into society,

01:12:21.700 um, but always having that connection to the divine, you know, never, not this idea that we're

01:12:27.220 looking to do now is kind of this, this secular, uh, humanism utopia where we're just going to use

01:12:34.660 our own, you know, idea of economics, politics, statecraft, and science, you know, which is really,

01:12:41.620 you know, applied science, technology, um, to make the world a better place as opposed to,

01:12:48.980 again, looking to connect and bring ourselves into alignment with these higher spiritual forces.

01:12:55.940 I love that. The return of the solar king, we, we definitely need the return of the solar king,

01:13:01.140 and I think that we are making that happen now, right? We're all calling upon the return of the

01:13:05.380 solar king. So I wanted to ask you, where can people buy the book? I know Arctos, right?

01:13:09.700 Arctos, uh, definitely .com is definitely the, the best place to go.

01:13:15.700 Um, I know you can get it on Amazon as well. Uh, you know, I think it's, I think it's available in

01:13:22.740 all the formats there. Last I checked, uh, digital format, a hard cover and the soft cover,

01:13:29.300 and I think Barnes and Nobles, uh, too, as well. Um, but yeah, definitely, definitely. If you're going

01:13:35.620 to get it, uh, go to, go to Arctos. And I would say, even though it's more expensive, uh, buy the

01:13:41.780 hard copy. Um, that was one of the main reasons I wanted to do this is because I've always wanted to

01:13:46.340 have something in a physical book. I love physical books. I mean, yeah, I do a blog, but, but really,

01:13:52.180 you know, blogs and, and, and things on the internet, they can be memory hold pretty quick,

01:13:57.220 but, uh, but a physical book you have in your hands, you can give to, to other people,

01:14:01.060 or you can hand it down. Um, you know, it's, that's, I think that's the best.

01:14:05.220 And when the power goes out, you can still read it. You know what I mean?

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Radio 3Fourteen - February 10, 2022

John MacLugash - Globohomo Religion vs European Native Spirituality

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