Karissa & Sarah Dye - Pedophile Groomers & Motherhood in The Age of Insanity
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 11 minutes
Summary
In this episode, I sit down with the hosts of the podcast, Sarah and Carissa, to talk about their fight against the city of Dayton, Ohio and the antifas who harassed them at the Farmer's Market for being white.
Transcript
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Welcome, I'm Lana. Joining me is Sarah Dye and Carissa, who are the lovely ladies behind
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the Hearth and Helm podcast and blog that focuses on everything from pregnancy to child
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rearing, homeschooling, homesteading, diet, culture, spirituality, and politics. That's
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all the vital and good stuff that we should be discussing, especially now. So welcome to you
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both. Thank you. Thank you. I think we can only see one at a time too. There we go. There's the
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other one. Yeah. So last time I had you on, Sarah, was in 2019 and your family was being harassed by
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some local antifas at the farmer's market because basically you weren't hating yourself for being
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white and the city even shut down the farmer's market as a way just to keep you guys out to
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not be a part of it. And that was your first interview, actually, that you ever did was
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with me and we covered this topic and there was a lot of press surrounding this whole thing. So
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whatever came of the lawsuit, by the way, that followed? Oh, gosh. Well, when I first interviewed
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with you in July of 20 or in August of 2019, I believe it was, there were so many other things
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that transpired after that. From that interview, we were able to get an attorney, which was great
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because the city was pressuring us to come to this mediation, but there wasn't actually a mediator
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there. It was a meeting, like a private meeting where they were wanting to pressure us into moving
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our booth space and all these other ridiculous things. So we were able to get an attorney and then,
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yeah, there was this kind of long, it's a long saga. So I don't really, I don't know how much
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time you want me to take on it, but it went on for, I guess, what, a year and a half to like two years,
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two years, I guess, because it was only within the past couple of months that the case has
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finally been closed. And unfortunately, we did lose the case. The judge granted favor to the city for
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their motion for summary judgment. So while that was very disappointing, there were several other
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small victories along the way and just regarding the whole situation. So, you know, it's like you,
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you see the silver linings and, and kind of acknowledge that like, this is a very like long,
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this is a long process of our folk. And this was one situation, like what happened with our family was
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one microcosm in this, in this huge struggle. And, and within that microcosm, the lawsuit was
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one large aspect of the situation, but it wasn't the whole situation. So, you know, count, we got
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to count the victories where we can, we did lose the lawsuit. I mean, is it surprising? Like I looked
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into the judge. No, I mean, come on. It's all rigged at this point. And the city was, you know,
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full of a lot of these judges are Antifa. A lot of the local governments are Antifa. The Supreme Court
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is like stacked with Antifas now. So we're really not surprised about that. But it's important that
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you fought back and you got press surrounding it. And also that you can still be at the farmer's
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market and you can, right? Absolutely. We are still allowed to vend there. Our application,
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I turned it in this year, it was approved. And I can go to that market whenever I want. If I want
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to show up on a Saturday and sell vegetables, then, you know, maybe I'll just do that. So,
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yeah. Good. Now, Carissa, or I should say Lady Lazarus, I had you on in 2016. This is crazy. 2016
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for a, it was actually a podcast interview that we did. Also, I think this was your first. We
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weren't doing video regularly. Do you remember this one? I remember feminists, they were,
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they were writing about it. The title was a pro-white is pro-woman, feminism is anti-white. I think
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it was a classic. Yeah. Any updates? Yeah, it was. Any updates since then? I mean,
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yeah. I mean, I was kind of a baby then, it seems like. I mean, I didn't have children yet.
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So much has changed. You know, just becoming a mother throughout all that time. You know,
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we got docs within that time too, which is, you know, not surprising. It happens when you're,
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when you're in these circles and everything. I know in that interview, we talked a little bit
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about the folk school that I was a part of. I got unwelcomed from there after the doxing,
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which is here nor there. But yeah, just, I mean, just I've grown and evolved and, you know,
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eventually Sarah and I hooked up and, you know, decided to start Hearth and Helm and just have
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persevered forward. That's good. And of course, you know, since then I've been banned from just about
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everything. But you know what? The three of us, we're still here. We're talking to each other.
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We're reaching people and more people are agreeing with us now more than ever,
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which drives our haters mad. We're exposing more of their goals, even harder. And they're making
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that easier for us to do. And we're going to get into some of those things. But I did want to ask,
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since it's springtime, I know you both, well, Sarah's a farmer and I know you're getting into
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homesteading as well. How's the planting coming? I mean, big springtime traditions also for Easter.
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In our, at our little homestead, what we have going on right now is we've got arugula coming up,
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spinach, lettuces, radishes. I just had the first salad of the year today with arugula and it was
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so delicious. Yeah, really fun. And we're going to be planting potatoes here in the next few weeks.
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And, you know, all of the crops that we grow each year, that's all going really well. And we've got
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some chickens. We've downsized a lot. We no longer have sheep and goats at this time, but
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it's a little bit more manageable because my husband had to pick up some work off the farm
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just with everything that happened. You know, unfortunately, Schooner Creek Farm was not making
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us enough money, you know, to get by. So he's had to get a different job. But, you know, those are
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turning over a new leaf is good too. So the kids are helping me and it's just mom and the kids mostly
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out there putting the garden in. So I know Carissa's got fun stuff going on at her place
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too. Tell us about it, Carissa. I know I didn't even know that you were doing that kind of stuff,
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but were you? I don't think when we talked you were, I think you were thinking about it,
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but you hadn't really gone there yet. Not really. I mean, I've always,
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my dad was a huge gardener growing up. I grew up in South Florida and we had
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orange trees and grapefruit trees and lemon and lime and a huge garden and avocado tree. So that's
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always, I've always dabbled a little bit in gardening, but not to the extent I am now,
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just kind of trying to build on to everything. But I'm just getting my seed sown and getting
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ready to plant. We just had snow the other day, so I'm kind of holding off a little bit. But
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yeah, I mean, I've got chickens now and this year I'm trying to focus on getting bees to start
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being able to harvest some honey. And I just, every year I'm trying to add a little bit more
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onto things. So it's a little bit more manageable for just being realistic with having small children
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and a husband that works a lot away from the home as well and just taking it one step at a time.
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Yeah, that's right. And I want to get some tips on that. I know, Sarah, you've been doing this a
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while too, because we're hearing about, you know, coming food shortages. We're seeing costs rise,
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including the costs of animal feed, which is, it's all manufactured as we've been covering to
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further this great reset. These globalists are obsessed with creating ultimately a world of
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total control and dependence on this slave system. But there's a lot of people who see what's coming.
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They want to do the best that they can to try and get some land or use the land that they do have to
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start a garden, get chickens, whatever they can to make whatever food that they can just in case.
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Now, can you both give us some tips for some newbies starting out? Where's the best place to
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begin with to not take on too much too fast? Because as Carissa said, it is a lot of work and you can't
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just have tons of, you know, animals right away and just dive into it. So I guess, Carissa, how about
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we start with you? What do you think? If someone is just starting out, what's some of the things that
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they can do? Well, I think homesteading can take many forms. I think, you know, having a sourdough
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starter, for instance, is kind of a form of homesteading, getting familiar with just your local
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foliage, what you can forage, what edible mushrooms do you have, what edible plants do you have,
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like, you know, fruits that grow? I think that's, you know, a really great start, just finding out
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what's edible and what you can harvest in your own area. But I know for me, the big picture,
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and my husband has to constantly reel me in on this, is that I see, you know, people that have
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these huge established homesteads. I'm like, I want to be there and I want to do it all right now.
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And he has to constantly be like, well, no, those people got to that point over a period of time.
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So I think it's just tackling one thing. Like every year, I try to focus on one thing that I want to add
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on. And like I said, this year, my kind of focus is bees. Next year, I would like to add maybe some
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dairy onto our property with maybe goats. A dairy cow would come, I think, maybe a little bit later,
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maybe when my kids are a little bit older and can help a little bit. But I think just having
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realistic expectations too for your surroundings. I mean, you can do a small little greenhouse if
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you are in the city on a balcony. I did that when we lived in Chicago, just had a small little
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cheap little greenhouse that I'd gotten. I grew a few little things, you know, doing herbs in the
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window cells. You can do micro greens, stuff like that. But I think you can start off small
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and just get creative with what you might have. I know a lot of people are intimidated by sometimes
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the cost of things because usually when you start with anything, the cost can be the most intimidating
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thing. But I mean, like when I wanted chickens, I found a kid's playhouse on Facebook marketplace for
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like 30 bucks and made it into a chicken coop or, you know, using cedar fence posts for garden beds
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or cinder blocks. There's a lot of options to get started. But I would just focus on one thing for
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that year and just tackle it one thing at a time. Yeah, that's good advice. How about you?
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We, so it's funny because we did the opposite thing. Like when my husband and I bought this property,
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we did the complete opposite. We were like, all right, let's get the garden and let's get the
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chickens. I think we got like 25 or 30 chickens to start. And then the next year we added goats and
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then we added sheep. And, you know, we, we did a lot all at once. And yes, like you can do it that
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way. It's a little stressful and it has felt nice to kind of scale back. I mean, my first recommendation
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would be to start with just a vegetable garden and chickens, because with chickens, you know,
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you're, you're obviously you're getting the eggs. You can use those, those chickens for meat. If you
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want, as long as you have a rooster, you may get a broody hen each spring who will essentially, she
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starts wanting to sit on her eggs. And of course those that are fertilized. So that gets you right
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there, some resiliency and independence from the system in that you, you may have a new batch of
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chicks each year, or maybe more than once a year so that you won't necessarily be reliant on going to
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tractor supply and like buying chicks. So I think chickens are an excellent way to start. And here
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on our homestead, we have a huge emphasis on how the garden works with the chickens. They, they're very
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much in sync and working with one another. Like our chickens create our garden beds. They renovate old
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garden beds. We have a mobile fence that's powered by a small solar charger. So it's, you know, we don't
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need to plug it into electricity. We can plug it in wherever we want to on our little plot
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of three and a half acres that we have here. Um, we will take that role of fencing and place
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it around an area where we want to create a garden and then we'll let the chickens just
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live in that area. You know, they have shelter, they have a place to lay eggs. They eat the weeds
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in the grass. We are of course supplementing their feed with some nice non-GMO feed as long as we can
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buy that from the store. Right. Um, and so we're getting the eggs each day, but then they're
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depositing manure in the garden area. And then we add straw and like in the autumn, we'll put fall
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leaves on that area. So we're kind of layering these things with the manure. And then, um, you can
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then move the chickens off of that area to a new area. And then you have an instant, beautiful garden
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that's going to be, um, rich in fertility. And with the mulch that you've added, like, I don't mean
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mulch. I always have to add this disclaimer. I'm not talking about the kind of expensive landscape
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mulch you buy at a landscaping store. I'm talking about old hay or, um, straw, if you can get it for
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inexpensive fall leaves, this sort of thing. So that's like, that's, that's my probably top
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recommendation is to get started with chickens and a vegetable garden and learning how to, um, merge those
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two things so that you can kind of get some systems down. In my opinion, it's just an excellent,
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it's an excellent system because it's very low maintenance and, um, the, the, the mulch
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and stuff that you're putting down over that chicken area, it keeps the weeds down. So you
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see so many people, they want to, they want to till up this huge patch and they get all
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excited and they want to have this big vegetable garden. But then as soon as like July comes or
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August, it's just, the weeds have completely taken over and it's pretty overwhelming for almost
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anyone to deal with. So that's, that is how we do it. Now, if you're in an area that's just like
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terrible, rocky clay, um, I don't have a whole lot of experience with that. So, you know, you can
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still use this method, but you might have to kind of alter it just a little bit. Like maybe you do
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a combination of tilling, chickens, and mulching, you know, maybe you incorporate those three things,
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but. Yeah, it's great. It's a nice symbiotic relationship. Exactly. That's what I would think too,
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a garden and chickens. Yeah. I have some friends that bought a cow and people don't realize how
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much a cat, one cow can eat. It's like 30 pounds a day or something. And you have to milk them what
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two times a day. And it's a lot of, it's a lot of milk, right? Like three to four gallons per milking
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or is it three to four gallons a day? Yeah. They get per day. So one cow could easily take care of like
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10, 15 families. So I have a couple of friends here that are doing like a herd share for just their
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friends and family because one cow can provide so much. You know, think about that, like let's get
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a cow, but then you're out there milking all the time. The feed is expensive. Like there's things
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that you learn as you go that you wouldn't know. I think people maybe have a romantic idea about some
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of those things and then they realize how much work and also money and maintenance that it takes
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as well. Now, are you both concerned about how far elites might take a lot of these food shortages?
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I know you both listen to Ice Age Farmer as well. You know, and if you listen to him a lot,
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you think, oh my God, it's going to happen next week. I got to get food. I got to start,
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you know, but, or do you think that they're just going to keep up the bread and the circuses for a
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while? Because it is a risk for them to take away a man's food supply and what may unfold from there.
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I am certainly concerned about it. I think that either way it goes, it's going to be terrible
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because if you want to refer to it as, like you said, keeping up the bread and circuses or
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a slow bleed, essentially that's going to be just as bad, I think, as pulling a plug on everything
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at once. If you think about it, because we've already had so much with the, with this COVID crap
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and traumatizing people and, you know, stripping a lot of good, hardworking people of their ability
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to provide for their families, telling them that they cannot live and cannot, you know, be free
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and these things. So I think that people are already kind of mentally on the verge of, you know,
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just feeling to where they're getting to a point where they've had enough. And then combined with
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the inflation, the gas prices going up, you know, supply chain issues, it's hard to say. I don't see
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it slowing down so far. I suppose I can't predict the future, but I can certainly just observe. And what
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I'm observing is that it's, it's moving pretty quickly. And I haven't seen any signs of it
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improving at all. So the trajectory is certainly, you know, not looking very good.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's certainly, certainly scary to see what's going on. I think, I think they just kind of
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keep slowly testing to see or test the waters just to see how much they can get away with and for how
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long they can get away with it and how many people are going to, you know, fold with this and go along
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with it, who are going to fight back. And it's been a little disappointing, to be honest, to see
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collectively as a whole, not, not as many, not as much pushback as I would hope to see. But,
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you know, something else that I, that I kind of get concerned about with this too is,
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is if it's just another, through the shortages, it's another way to,
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you know, tinker with our food more, put more poisons and toxins into them to find these new
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innovative ways to, you know, combat the shortages to come up with like, kind of what they did with
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genetically modified foods to combat this mass production to end world hunger and everything.
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If it's just, they're going to come up with these new, new ways to do that stuff, just to make our
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stuff even more toxic and making people sicker and, and everything. So it's, it is, it is really
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troubling, but I, I've been over time, just kind of stocking up on a lot of staples, just
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for my own security, you're never, you're never going to not need it. I mean, you can just filter
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through it as you need it. And it doesn't hurt to have a security, an insurance policy or security
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blanket. Never does. Now, according to Facebook, though, if you're prepping, if you're prepared,
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you're an extremist. They put a warning out for that. Do you have a friend who's canning too much?
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You might want to report them to the thought police immediately. Well, all of these things
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are making motherhood today more challenging than ever, I feel, I think, because although we have
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the comforts and some of those are going to be taken away, we have to constantly deal with
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propaganda that's seeking to destroy our kids via all this gender madness. We have critical race theory
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lies. We have mass immigration. Now we have this, all this fat acceptance on top of the feminism and
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just basically all these forms of globo homo liberalism. And it's constantly coming at us
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and our children from literally every angle. It's like you can't isolate from it in the modern world.
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So how do you both deal with this as mothers, you know, raising kids in this trashy, freakish kind of
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fat neoliberal anti-white culture that's constantly seeking to turn our kids into these mutant freaks?
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So any tips on that? Larissa, we'll start with you. Big one, I know.
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Well, yeah, that is a loaded question in the sense that there's so many areas you can touch upon it.
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But I mean, homeschooling is definitely not negotiable at this point. I mean, even private
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schools are not safe. You know, I think people should be doing whatever they can in their power
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to homeschool to, I mean, that's probably the biggest, the biggest factor right there. But just
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being mindful of what their kids are consuming, what they're watching, what they're playing, who they
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are associating with, because they are very, they do adapt to, you know, their surroundings and who
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they're with and everything. And I think too, you know, we were talking about this a little bit
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before, you know, we started that I think, you know, my daughter is four now, and she's getting
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more curious and asking more questions and getting more intuitive and aware of her surroundings. And so
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it doesn't hurt to have these open and honest conversations with our children. Of course,
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there's an age appropriate time for certain conversations. But at some point, somebody is going to talk to them
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about it. And it might as well be you to introduce it. And you can, you know, just as they get older
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and more mature and have more of an understanding of things, have those, those conversations.
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Yeah, I completely agree. You know, once upon a time years ago, I used to kind of say,
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oh, you know, your children pick up on anti-white stuff naturally and this sort of thing. But over the
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years, no, I've changed my mind on that. While they do pick up on some of it naturally,
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a lot of it does need explaining. And so like Carissa said, being able to have, you know,
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honest conversations and being prepared to answer some questions about things and also inoculating
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your children with positive information and stories, you know, from our folk, because I mean,
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we have like a huge well that we can draw upon, obviously. I mean, our people are full of heroes
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and, you know, epic, epic stories and, you know, just civilization, essentially like everything
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great, you know. So just homeschooling them and showing them all of that helps, I really feel like
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it helps kind of prepare them to be able to identify and recognize, you know, the anti-whiteism
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that's, you know, just becoming just so in your face and so prevalent. We also have to not be afraid
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to protect them and shelter them. And I know that like some people say, oh, exposing your children is
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better because, you know, somehow that's going to like make them more prepared. And I just completely
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disagree with that. I think that we have to shelter them from this degeneracy as much as
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possible. Why would we want to allow that, you know, into their beautiful, pure, sweet little souls
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and minds, like not allowing your children to have free, you know, use of YouTube, for instance,
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is just something so simple and seems like why, you know, like I don't know any, but very many people
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that do, but a lot of parents are still doing that. You know, they're letting their kids just be on
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YouTube and be on the internet and watch whatever they want. And they're getting shown horrible
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things, you know, pornography and just all sorts of other like terrible brainwashing, like, you know,
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traumatic imagery, even in like music videos and stuff like that, that are, that are common nowadays.
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And, and even modern films and movies, like even Disney, obviously like is total crap. And,
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and so many other sources, like, I know we've all, we've all said this many times,
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but Netflix and a lot of stuff coming out from Disney and even like Amazon, the Amazon stuff,
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it's almost all just such garbage. And if it's not like intentionally subversive and degenerate,
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it's just like horribly bleak and boring. Like the graphic art is so like basic and not creative.
00:22:24.740
And it's almost like, it's just designed to like hold their attention, but not without any,
00:22:30.160
you know, substance. You know what I mean? Like you see that even, even with the children's museum,
00:22:34.820
like I was telling you about the art experience at the children's museum.
00:22:37.940
Yeah. You told me, I was like, let me guess, lots of diversity posters. First thing, you know,
00:22:41.820
lots of that multiculturalism, blah, blah, blah, bad whitey, bad colonialism. Like, and it's,
00:22:48.060
that's what it is. That's what it is everywhere. Yeah. But it's different because we're as mothers,
00:22:53.200
we're equipped. So we know these things so we can arm our children with the truth. And you're right.
00:22:57.340
There's a period when it's too young to expose your kid to certain things. So like if they,
00:23:02.500
people think, Oh, you got to inoculate them, expose them to it before someone else does first.
00:23:06.080
Well, it's about the child's psyche and development and where they're at. A five-year-old shouldn't
00:23:10.480
be seeing this like pedophile drag queen story hour stuff, which we'll get into later because
00:23:15.140
it's way beyond drag queen story hour now. But I think that you have to call it out when you see
00:23:19.460
it and you have to nip it in the bud right there so that your kids know the score. You have to
00:23:24.240
explain. And we have the answers for them. We have the full, full, all encompassing explanation of why
00:23:30.820
some of these things are happening, what it really is. Some women don't have that, right?
00:23:35.880
At the same time, we can't be like a religious nut. We have to be balanced about it and talk about
00:23:41.120
these things in a cool way. You can call out all this liberal bullshit in a way that kids do find
00:23:46.300
funny because there's so much to laugh at about it. It's the cult of crazy. And if you get kids to see
00:23:54.260
it, I think it makes life so much easier for them and more fun in a good way that they're not going
00:24:00.500
to get all the usual peer pressure crap and stuff. I see this. I see how it empowers them because I
00:24:05.700
see all these kids who are homeschooled and just how on the level they are about stuff,
00:24:10.020
how cool they are. They're really centered and balanced, like some of the healthiest kids you'll
00:24:14.420
ever meet. And that's one of the approaches that I've seen, you know, parents take. I don't know if
00:24:20.560
you want to add anything to that. I did. I did actually want to add that I think it's really
00:24:24.200
great that you brought in the element of keeping the humor with it because if we don't do that for
00:24:29.580
our children, then it's far too blackpilling for them to handle, you know? So I love that. I love
00:24:35.740
that you mentioned that because it is, it is like really funny. Sometimes you just have to laugh
00:24:40.020
because it is so insane. It's a powerful tool, you know, and the other side knows that. So like if you
00:24:44.800
see, you know, the crazy purple haired tranny feminist or whatever, just conditioning of like
00:24:50.080
laughing at that, like that is not normal. That is not something I'm ever going to take seriously.
00:24:55.140
You know what I mean? It's just like, just laugh it off. And then I think it just unconsciously,
00:25:01.080
it goes in, well, very consciously, but like it sticks with them. I remember the good times I had
00:25:05.560
with mom laughing at that, you know, guy at the supermarket wearing high heels who thought he was
00:25:10.080
a girl or something, you know? And it's amazing some of the things that kids already see
00:25:13.800
because they're so close to their natural, raw, healthy state that they call out a lot of these
00:25:19.100
weird things when they see it. That's what I've noticed anyway. The kid things just fly out of
00:25:23.120
kids mouths and it's like, yeah, you're, you're right. You know, that's weird or it shouldn't be
00:25:27.400
that way. Carissa. It's so true. Yeah, I know. Carissa, anything you wanted to add to that?
00:25:35.620
No, I do think humor is a great thing to implement as well. My husband's really good at doing that.
00:25:40.240
Um, I, I do think too, just, it is a good, a good tool when, of course, when they're a little
00:25:46.500
bit older to show them to, you know, what we fight for, why we do this so that they can kind
00:25:51.340
of see what the alternative is too. I mean, more so the humor definitely is a better approach,
00:25:56.300
but also that just that realism of, you know, looking at this, this kind of abyss of degeneracy
00:26:02.100
is kind of the alternative. So, um, if we don't fight and we don't carry on a legacy and speak
00:26:08.420
out against this. That's right. Well, I want to talk about being a dissident mother. Now,
00:26:13.540
I know I told you both earlier that, you know, I think dissidents today, our views are normal and
00:26:19.680
healthy, but according to this like psychotic system right now, we're like the scary dissident
00:26:24.460
moms. You know, we, women like us get attacked for literally everything we do and how we do it.
00:26:29.780
It's all white supremacist and racist. You want chickens, you want happy kids, you're a racist.
00:26:34.780
You want to live somewhere clean and safe and be alone, you're a racist.
00:26:37.980
There isn't anything that hasn't been attacked. Uh, even the way that we housewife, I always like
00:26:42.740
to bring up the goodie from New York slimes piece a long time ago called the, the housewives of white
00:26:48.200
supremacy. It was a hilarious article. And the beginning starts out talking about this show
00:26:52.400
and was attacking, uh, my guests who considered herself a traditional wife. She had Norwegian roots,
00:26:58.120
right? Lives in the Dakotas. And she said that she wanted kids that looked like her. And they were
00:27:02.300
talking about, this is just the disgusting white supremacy. And they complained about, you know,
00:27:07.320
some of our other friends that we know, mutual friends who are YouTubers who were at the time,
00:27:11.600
who were, you know, pretty and soft spoken. And, uh, they talked about having lots of children and
00:27:17.280
like the horror of this. Right. And since then, all of these women have been banned because, well,
00:27:22.540
let's face it because they're white. They don't talk about this with anyone else. Um, but let's get
00:27:27.280
into this truth about trad wives. Okay. Because I did a video on this as well. And I always say
00:27:32.260
traditional, according to what, you know, what era, uh, what social class is a woman in? Does
00:27:37.200
she live in the city? Is she in the country? There's different ways to be a traditional woman,
00:27:41.660
which, uh, I don't obsess about. Like some people used to have a rule book for these things,
00:27:45.980
you know, at the end of the day, I think you have to do what's best for your family. Uh,
00:27:49.740
however that may look. So I wanted to get your opinion on a tradition, being a traditional woman,
00:27:55.000
Yeah. It's, there's so much to say there. I mean, it's, uh, well, the first and foremost,
00:28:01.540
obviously our enemies attack the, the housewives, the trad wives and whatnot so hard because, um,
00:28:10.460
they know how powerful it can be when women are speaking out about things because it attracts
00:28:16.180
other women. And, you know, when women get in groups, like they can, they can accomplish great
00:28:21.360
things. Right. And so that's obviously why they, they attack us so bad. And I know you've,
00:28:27.400
you've been on the, you've received the, the, the most of that over the years. It's just
00:28:32.700
unbelievable what they've done to you and other, other moms. But, um, yeah, I agree. I mean,
00:28:38.660
I feel like our people and this movement, and I mean, I know, like, I kind of hate to say this
00:28:44.240
movement because it's, it's such a diverse thing and there's a lot of different like factions,
00:28:48.880
but essentially when I say that I'm talking about just our folk who are waking up to our
00:28:53.960
identity, you know, as Europeans, as white people and, um, shedding, you know, the white
00:28:59.300
guilt essentially that we've all been like plagued with our entire lives. So that's what I mean
00:29:04.600
when I say this movement, this movement of people awakening, um, is, is a very mixed group
00:29:10.860
of people. Like we have a lot of different types of people in this. I have met so many people
00:29:17.040
over the years. And a lot of us, you know, we, we have just like different personalities,
00:29:22.720
different talents, different lifestyles. Like you were saying, some people are living in urban areas.
00:29:27.000
Some people are super into homesteading. You know, other people are really into computer
00:29:30.780
programming. Like we need all kinds. We need lawyers. We need people who know how to build websites.
00:29:35.600
We need people who are creating payment platforms and social media platforms and creating something
00:29:40.900
else, you know, for us. And so along with that is, you know, again, I'm kind of repeating myself,
00:29:46.260
but it just comes like, well, I guess we have true diversity in our movement as far as our folk go.
00:29:51.580
And, you know, some of, some of my trad way friends are like super into, um, the nostalgia of the 1950s.
00:29:58.420
And I can totally appreciate like a lot of that. You know, I, I like some of the dress styles. Like I,
00:30:03.680
I think it's super sweet, like that that's kind of where they're finding their identity. Um, you know,
00:30:08.740
other women are maybe a little bit louder and outspoken and are producing videos or content. Other
00:30:14.460
women are quietly writing blogs. Other women are not doing anything online at all. And they're just
00:30:19.060
in their local communities and just being at home, raising their children. And then some of us are
00:30:24.160
kind of doing a little bit of all of that. And, um, so I think, you know, there, there's certainly no
00:30:29.760
like cookie cutter, one size fits all for like a quote unquote trad wife. But what, what we really
00:30:35.460
support is just, um, well, what we promote is supporting each other, you know, as women who are
00:30:41.900
awakening and in the process of awakening out of this, you know, crap.
00:30:47.460
Very well said. And we need, and we need our sisterhood, you know, I'm surrounded by tons of
00:30:50.880
women right now. And it's awesome that you can have that to talk to you. And I feel like
00:30:54.040
a lot of white women in particular haven't had that for a long time. So it feels really powerful
00:30:58.800
when you can be around women that feel like your sisters, that you understand, you can talk about
00:31:03.040
anything. Like it's so important to have that, you know, absolutely. Carissa, what are your thoughts?
00:31:08.200
It really is. Yeah. I think, you know, nationalism and the nuclear family start at home and that's
00:31:13.640
with the women, the women are the foundations of the home. And, you know, I, I, it does like,
00:31:18.240
kind of like what Sarah said, it doesn't matter to me what, what, you know, period in history you,
00:31:22.560
you kind of relate to if it's, you know, the Valkyrie area, if it's the 1950s, it's whatever,
00:31:27.640
it's, it doesn't matter. I don't care if you channel, you know, Lily Munster or June Cleaver,
00:31:32.300
it's whatever, whatever works for you. I mean, we do need to be all over the place and in different
00:31:36.280
areas and, and just putting the stuff out there to inspire and uplift other women. And also just
00:31:41.720
going back to, you know, what we were just talking about earlier. I mean, being at home and with
00:31:46.180
nationalism, being at home and on the forefront, that is what is going to carry that, that torch
00:31:51.100
for the future. Absolutely. Well said. I also wanted to talk about balancing. It's a balancing
00:31:56.960
act between motherhood and the political social issues. I know you're both the podcasting and all
00:32:03.060
this. It's, it can be tough. You know, you're doing your mom, you're homesteading, and there's
00:32:08.020
all these duties that come with it. It's a balancing act. And some women handle the stress of it better
00:32:12.960
than others. But I wanted to get your take on how you both do it. Carissa, let's start with you.
00:32:19.240
I mean, it can be hard sometimes. I mean, Sarah and I talk about this all the time. You know,
00:32:23.380
some days you just kind of want to shut down and be like, man, is this, is this kind of worth it? And
00:32:27.360
then it's like, well, no, then, then the enemy would win. And, and it, it, it, it goes back to
00:32:32.860
that, you know, our family is most important. Like last year, we didn't put out a ton of content. I
00:32:37.100
had had a baby that year. We both just had a lot going on in our lives. And it just, for that period
00:32:41.380
and season of life for us, you know, our family was more important. And we, you know, this year,
00:32:45.320
we kind of revamped hearth and helm and got back on the horse. And I think there's just going to be
00:32:49.880
seasons of life with us, just as mothers, that that's going to happen where we are going to have to
00:32:54.060
take these breaks and come back. But for me, when I do feel that, that kind of black cloud,
00:32:59.620
I kind of have to just log off for a little bit, go outside, focus on my kids, watch my chickens and
00:33:04.200
just, you know, disconnect for a little bit and just focus on what really matters and kind of reclaim
00:33:09.540
and reground myself as to what I really am fighting for. What are, what are we doing with this
00:33:14.820
and everything just to get myself back to that baseline and then, you know, come back, make,
00:33:19.300
okay, I'm ready. I'm ready to get back on. In the same way. And yeah, it's important to just have
00:33:25.900
that, that balance because it, it can't be, you know, you can't be in it all the time because you
00:33:31.820
will, you will just drive yourself crazy. You have to just connect. I see it happen even with men,
00:33:36.900
although men are built to be in that all the time. They can be in those environments, you know,
00:33:40.920
and it always amazes me like with Henrik, he could probably stream every single day and be into
00:33:44.200
these topics hours a day, you know, because they're, they're built for it. But also not all men,
00:33:48.200
because I've seen some men also break down and lose their minds and all this stuff. But yeah,
00:33:52.900
it's, it's about taking a break when you know it's become too much and just step off and then
00:33:57.620
you get inspired again to, you know, get back on the horse. Like you said, absolutely. Sarah,
00:34:01.640
what about you? Yeah, I would say that, um, it's, uh, for me, it's just like making a list. I'm very
00:34:09.880
much a list maker. Me too. And so I will make a list of the priorities for the day and for the week.
00:34:16.960
And, um, you know, obviously you have to make sure that your priorities are in order. And so,
00:34:22.440
um, you know, tending to like family time and homeschooling and household and homesteading
00:34:29.720
type stuff, um, comes first. And then when there's spare time, which is not often,
00:34:35.420
then, um, then you can use it for something else. And like laying around and doing nothing,
00:34:40.660
like take a break to just lay, just lay down. Right. When does that happen?
00:34:46.880
No, I don't know that actually. I need to try that.
00:34:50.580
I'm like you too. I have lists and I'm constantly rewriting them and reprioritizing them. And I was
00:34:55.240
like, wait, I don't think this list ever going to happen of like big stuff. And it changes,
00:35:00.240
you know what I mean? It's constantly changing, but that's the other thing about doing things with,
00:35:04.660
and I know you ladies cover this. You had a guest on and you were talking about doing things with
00:35:08.340
intention, doing things with focus, right? You have to prioritize certain things and let some
00:35:13.360
other things slide. And as a mom, sometimes you have to let go of some of those, uh, you know,
00:35:18.220
some of us can have little OCD tendencies, little things that can irritate us or whatever. And Sarah,
00:35:22.860
I think you're like me that way about certain things. Okay. Let that go. Here's the big things,
00:35:27.660
prioritize that. And also for me, I noticed it's about slowing down because sometimes we can just,
00:35:33.100
women can get frazzled and we take on too much and we're, we're worrying about too much and then
00:35:37.860
we're just not happy. What do you think about that, Sarah? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I can relate to that,
00:35:44.040
uh, more than I'd like to admit, uh, definitely kind of the OCD thing. And then a terrible habit
00:35:49.880
that I've kind of developed since the 2019 stuff is like, um, insomnia and just like working on
00:35:55.680
projects far too late into the night, researching things far too late into the night. So I think it's
00:36:00.700
really important. Like you said, with that sisterhood, it's, it's nice. Like you said,
00:36:04.280
like having other women in your life to kind of remind you like, okay, you know, it's,
00:36:08.980
you need to take some time to be more intentional, slow down a little bit, like, you know, make sure
00:36:13.160
to get your sleep, get your rest. Those are probably things that I, I should be working on,
00:36:17.480
you know, going to bed earlier. I'm with you on that one too. Going to bed earlier. Everyone's always
00:36:22.620
like, you should sleep when the baby sleeps, for instance. And I, that was always hard. Like,
00:36:26.760
oh, I got to do all these things when the baby's asleep or napping or whatever. And now it's like,
00:36:31.140
okay, baby's going to sleep. Let's say, I don't know. I say baby, but kids like, oh,
00:36:34.980
they got to sleep nine 30, 10. You should be going to sleep then if you want the proper amount of
00:36:38.600
sleep, but it just doesn't work that way. Cause sometimes you're like, okay, I want a couple
00:36:41.100
hours for myself now. And then next thing, you know, I'm like, you're, oh, it's a one or two AM,
00:36:46.380
you know, constantly doing that. It's wild. It is wild. But, but I do think, like you said,
00:36:52.220
it has something to do with motherhood because when you have babies and especially like when
00:36:56.320
you're breastfeeding, you know, as any mother knows you are, you get used to having very odd
00:37:01.740
sleeping hours for sure. Being up through the night and that sort of thing. So, yeah. Yeah. No,
00:37:06.620
I definitely try to be mindful of my, my slow down culture. Cause I, I have a tendency. It's always
00:37:12.160
like, I guess, cause you're just in mom mode. You'll be like, okay, I'm doing this while I'm doing
00:37:17.000
dishes. Oh, I should have a load of laundry going. So by the time that's done, I can hang up my clothes
00:37:20.440
outside and you know, all of this. And I actually was thinking about this the other day. I did a
00:37:24.180
little post on Hearth and Helm about it, that I've gone back to, to kneading bread by hand instead of
00:37:28.920
putting it in my mixer, because it just took me, it, it brought me back to just appreciate the art
00:37:35.400
of kneading dough. And while I was doing that, I saw my children just really, really lovely playing
00:37:41.040
together and just taking in that moment where I would have probably missed that had I put the bread
00:37:45.700
in the mixer and just moved on to something else and just got flooded back to a lot of memories,
00:37:50.140
just watching them play. And just this intent of making this bread and that a machine never could
00:37:55.720
have done that for me. Had I put the dough in the, in the machine and it mixed and just that slow down
00:38:01.960
of just taking in all these like really precious moments that sometimes we miss just cause we
00:38:05.580
have some, we're always going so many different directions as mothers. And I think it's important
00:38:10.380
to, to do that. I mean, sometimes we, we have to kind of put something on the back burner in order to
00:38:15.560
just appreciate and savor those moments because they're only little ones and I want to take that
00:38:20.440
in. And I've just really tried to work on my slow down type of culture, I guess.
00:38:26.100
Yeah. That's a really important, especially today with, you know, social media and the kids are in
00:38:30.060
this, they're having this tick tock brain syndrome and those things can catch up to you. I even got the
00:38:35.020
blue light glasses, right. To put on at night. So you have the, the amber screen. So you start dumping
00:38:39.860
melatonin. It's, it's hard in this day and age, everything, it feels like it moves so fast,
00:38:44.780
but so slow at the same time. I feel like lately it's a really bizarre thing, but yeah, like you're
00:38:49.560
saying with, with the, the bread, sometimes you need something to really focus, focus in on just
00:38:55.460
to slow you down, to kind of just get yourself to relax. I noticed that, right. Just, just to focus
00:39:01.300
on one thing at a time instead of like with women, we have tendency to, and I think it's amplified
00:39:06.980
with technology, multitasking. Like I'm the queen of multitasking and a million different things and
00:39:11.620
lists and things to do. And then sometimes I can just spin myself crazy. Okay. Slow down and do,
00:39:17.600
do something that's just, just go outside and do nothing or just sit there and do nothing,
00:39:22.200
or just maybe you need to meditate for a second or just go take a walk and try to not think about
00:39:26.600
anything. I find like that's, that's harder in this day and age. Don't you think to just not
00:39:31.240
really focus on anything? Oh, sorry. You're shaking your head. You know what I'm talking about?
00:39:34.900
Oh, it is. I can relate to this so much actually. Like today, today I finally was just like, I,
00:39:41.680
I need to go walk around the farm. Like there's spring wildflowers coming up and I walked back
00:39:46.720
to the Creek just for like 10 minutes and like put my feet in the water. It was freezing cold. And I
00:39:50.920
was like, Oh my gosh, I haven't done this in so long. And yeah, it's, it's so important. Like you
00:39:55.060
said, just to kind of go out to the woods, get grounded, you know, be in touch with nature. I mean,
00:39:59.700
obviously I am out in the garden working and stuff, but yeah, setting aside the tasks and kind
00:40:05.280
of doing nothing is super important too. And actually I'm grateful for Carissa in my life
00:40:09.400
because I feel like you, you are always inspiring me to kind of take those moments to be more
00:40:14.660
intentional, you know? So I really appreciate that. Yeah. It's super sweet. I love that story you told
00:40:19.860
about your sourdough and the kids. All right. So now I want to transition and talk about
00:40:26.140
pedophiles. Yes. Pedophiles or groomers, whichever you choose. I like to use both or pedophiles and
00:40:31.860
their groomers. I know you've both been seeing all this LGBTQP total hysteria and now it's emboldened
00:40:37.460
these pedophiles to go after kids in all these unthinkable ways. And the establishment is just
00:40:41.800
glossing it over. In fact, there was this recent judge that was nominated, right? The black lady and
00:40:47.560
in every, in each and every pedophile case that she had, I think there was like eight cases.
00:40:53.000
She went light on the pedophiles and this even included baby sex torture. I couldn't believe
00:40:59.640
that when I heard that. This is the lady who's on the Supreme Court and all we're hearing about is,
00:41:03.360
oh, diversity and it's so amazing. And oh, but she's black and all this going light on pedophiles.
00:41:09.480
Like this is the system that we're in right now. And we've seen a big rise in pedophile teachers
00:41:13.900
getting caught. We've been covering this, the Disney workers being caught, TV, a movie grooming
00:41:19.800
content and stuff that's just totally inappropriate, right? The young kids shouldn't be exposed to.
00:41:25.380
We see this sex ed that's really just brainwashing by groomers who basically want to be able to have
00:41:31.040
sex with toddlers. And I feel like sex ed anymore is just gay. That's all it is. It's just like gay
00:41:36.960
stuff all the time. But yeah, it's really that horrific where things are at. And I know,
00:41:40.900
Sarah, before you had sent me a message about this, this recording, we showed a video of a teacher
00:41:48.400
in drag, giving a little dance to his students just because, you know, I think we have it so we
00:41:54.680
can play that. But what do you all think about this? What's what's there? I mean, just this whole
00:41:59.560
push all of a sudden this ramp up, Sarah, we'll get your thoughts first.
00:42:02.840
Oh, man. Well, I'm a little behind on the news cycle. So I had heard about this black
00:42:09.280
Supreme Court justice appointee. Is that what it is? Yeah. She's she's in now. She's on the
00:42:14.660
Supreme Court. She's a judge. Okay. Yeah. Wow. No, I didn't. I mean, it's I'm not surprised at all.
00:42:20.400
And I'm just absolutely like speechless. These are the types of things that I feel like as mothers and
00:42:27.920
as women, it's almost unbearable to think about or hear about. But it's also the world that we're
00:42:36.280
living in. And so, you know, we have to, we have to be honest about the fact that that's going on as
00:42:41.940
hard as it is to think about that stuff. I mean, I don't know, I don't even know where to begin.
00:42:48.700
Like, it's so horrible. It's so it's so white, Weimar, right? Like, it's it's Weimar tier,
00:42:53.760
we're to that point, we're to that level where the worst of the worst is being normalized. And
00:42:59.780
I mean, what has happened to our society? I mean, in, in this modern day,
00:43:06.120
men, men who once were the protectors and leaders of their clans and their tribes
00:43:13.380
have been completely suppressed and oppressed. And they're they're in so many ways helpless,
00:43:20.240
like, there's nothing that, you know, that they could do that they, they would have taken care of
00:43:25.520
things in a, in a way that made, you know, sense. Back in times of old, there were different systems
00:43:31.660
for dealing with criminals, you know, than there are now.
00:43:37.840
Yeah, now, now we see, you know, this criminal justice system that essentially just is,
00:43:44.060
it's, it's horrible. I mean, I don't, I'm just like at a loss, at a loss, to be honest,
00:43:49.220
I don't know, I'm just glad that like, we can homeschool our children and, and protect them
00:43:53.860
from this crap. I mean, I don't understand how people can be so blind to it. Like, pedophiles,
00:43:59.060
I will, I refuse to call, I'm going to refuse to call pedophiles groomers. But I will say that
00:44:04.280
pedophiles do engage in grooming, for sure. And so and so does the LGBTQ community. And I don't even
00:44:11.900
like to use those letters. I mean, they're homosexuals. And they're people who have mental
00:44:17.700
illnesses. And it is absolutely a fact that's been proven time and time again, that they do
00:44:23.360
prey on children. Like this is not some made up thing. It's, it's a, it's been known for a long
00:44:28.060
time. This is only in this very recent years that they've been trying to say that it's not. I mean,
00:44:34.460
we, we see, we see videos of children at pride festivals with, you know, the most degenerate,
00:44:40.460
horrific stuff going on that you could possibly imagine showing to children. And then you have parents
00:44:45.560
who are taking their children to see these things. I mean, this, this is not about homosexuals having
00:44:52.640
equal rights. This is absolutely about grooming children and converting children too, and, and,
00:45:00.300
and wanting them to question their own, you know, gender identity, wanting to instill with them,
00:45:05.880
you know, what is it, gender dysmorphia, or just where they're confused about their gender. That's a
00:45:12.980
phenomenon. That's, that was never a problem. Like when I was in school, that was not a problem.
00:45:17.580
You know, it wasn't going on. Nobody, nobody was gay. Nobody was homosexual.
00:45:23.100
No. And now there's all this sex ed. We, we covered all the time every week. There's all these cases
00:45:27.740
now sex ed. It's always about like teaching five-year-olds about anal sex or blowjobs. Now,
00:45:33.220
like that is what has become. And I don't know how you can misconstrue that, how you can explain that
00:45:38.060
away. But this is, this is, this is pedophiles. And this is grooming kids to think that this kind
00:45:43.760
of behavior is normal to engage in these things with this, with these freaks, you know, uh, Carissa,
00:45:48.720
what are your thoughts? Yeah, it starts at such a young age too. Like I, when I go just to different
00:45:55.080
retail stores from such a young age, you're seeing rainbows on everything for kids. And I think a lot
00:45:59.780
of it is to start normalizing that symbol. It means something totally different from when all of us were
00:46:04.680
growing up. It was, there's, there's a whole monopoly on it. And I, I a hundred percent think
00:46:08.300
it's just for kids to, to normalize that. And it seems more appealing to them when they do get into
00:46:11.920
more of the subverse and degenerate things. And it is just, it's really sickening. And it just shows
00:46:17.300
that what happens, how far it goes when people don't take a stand for it. I mean, we've gone so far
00:46:22.560
beyond what people do in their own bedroom, what you consenting adults do. None of my business. No,
00:46:27.020
that never should have. People should have been like, no, that it, it, it's disgusting. Cause it's,
00:46:31.660
they are going after our children. And I hate to say it, but a lot of people innocently
00:46:36.060
promoted in their own way. Um, people share way too much of their children on the internet,
00:46:41.760
on social media. They think that just because their stuff is private, that it still doesn't
00:46:47.100
get out there. Like when you tag your stuff at, tag your, your, you know, children at places that
00:46:52.360
all is public on the, if you're at a park, for instance, that becomes like public to the park and
00:46:56.920
it's on the internet. And I, I mean, I have like family members that'll like post videos of their
00:47:01.360
kids like in their underwear dancing and they think it's cute and everything. I'm like, no,
00:47:04.120
that's disgusting. Like, why are you putting that on the internet? I would be absolutely mortified and,
00:47:09.180
and second, if I, you know, 10 years from now, I was that kid and saw that my parents put that on
00:47:14.540
there thinking it was cute. Like that's something that stays just, you know, like that you just have
00:47:19.920
like, Oh, this was funny that you did when you were younger, but it's, it's amazing what people
00:47:23.960
are putting out there that are feeding into that. And they don't really realize that they're feeding
00:47:27.940
into it. Yeah. It's a different day and age. So, and these people are emboldened. Exactly.
00:47:32.660
It's a slippery slope. We used to think that too, just, just leave them alone. It's fine. You want
00:47:36.640
to be gay in the privacy of your own home and all that. And just, okay, sure. You want to be treated
00:47:41.740
equal. And now it's just teaching a four-year-old about blow jobs with a 40 year old man in gay sex.
00:47:48.520
I mean, that's literally what it is. I was just covering too, um, Weekend Warrior. There's this
00:47:52.340
family sex show, this new sex ed theater show that's coming out in the UK and they're trying
00:47:58.740
to get kids to come watch it. And the whole family can come learn about, uh, porn and, uh,
00:48:03.960
self-pleasuring and see these naked people, naked grownups on stage talking about their body parts.
00:48:11.140
And then of course they interweave all the global homo talking points into it, like all every
00:48:16.420
degenerate thing you can think of. And they recommend, uh, well, any age is welcome, but starting
00:48:21.060
at five, cause at five years old, you need to expose your kids to like all this really
00:48:25.320
inappropriate stuff. And again, most of them are gay. And a lot of times if they're not
00:48:30.780
gay, then you have to question, okay, is, is this a pedophile? Cause any normal rational
00:48:35.340
adults would not want to talk to these things about these, as Sarah, you said these pure,
00:48:40.540
innocent, sweet little souls. Like why do they even need to learn about these things? Why
00:48:44.860
are you trying to put it into their consciousness? Like just ramming that into their heads right
00:48:49.320
away. Obviously there's an agenda and it is, it is grooming kids, getting them to think
00:48:53.720
that this is normal. So then when some old gross person approaches you for some of these
00:48:58.360
sick, disgusting things, it's, Oh, it's normal. I went to the family sex show. They talked about
00:49:04.100
Oh yeah. Yeah. It's, it's just unbelievable. I mean, it's, it's always like this, they do
00:49:09.480
it right in front of your face, but then when you, when you say, when you point at it and
00:49:13.760
you're like, no, I, I'm not okay with this. Then they say that like, Oh, you're crazy.
00:49:17.160
You're imagining things like that. We're not doing that. It's like, no, you definitely
00:49:20.160
are like you, you just did that. And I saw it with my own eyes and you know, our experiences
00:49:25.240
don't count. What we see doesn't count to, you know, these people. I remember so nearby
00:49:30.960
where I live, which is well known, which is a near Bloomington, Indiana, there's the Kinsey
00:49:35.340
Institute, which I think that you and Henrik maybe have covered in a couple of past episodes
00:49:39.420
recently, super crazy, horrible, horrible stuff that went on there. And, um, and in
00:49:46.640
that town they had for pride festival, uh, a couple of years ago, I was kind of looking
00:49:51.980
through to see what the activities that they were doing that week were to like, just, you
00:49:56.140
know, dissect it and kind of see what, what are they doing over there. And there was a class
00:50:01.740
that was being held at the public library for pride festival on, um, consent. And the
00:50:11.180
class was a hands-on class for, um, children and caregivers on consent. And I mean, this
00:50:19.820
is at the public library, you know, and then, um, like Carissa was saying with the children's
00:50:25.200
clothing and this sort of thing, it's, it's obvious that they prey on children too, with
00:50:28.820
like this happy, like it's just sparkly unicorns, children, children are so loving. They are
00:50:34.640
so like, they want to give everybody a hug, you know? And that's another thing. Like you
00:50:37.980
have to kind of teach your children, like you don't just go sit up on a stranger's lap or
00:50:41.980
hug a stranger. Unfortunately, like we don't live in, you know, tight knit, you know, close
00:50:46.580
communities anymore for the most part where you can let your children do those sorts of
00:50:49.860
things, but they totally prey on the children with like hearts and like, Oh, love is love.
00:50:54.300
Love is love and rainbows and unicorns. And these are all things that are like fun for kids.
00:50:58.760
And sparkly and seemingly innocent. And that's, and that's where it starts. You know, that
00:51:03.060
is exactly where it starts. And, and, um, the, the thing is, is that we, as, um, as traditional,
00:51:11.660
normal, normal people, we don't have any rights anymore. So once upon a time, you know, they
00:51:18.480
started pushing this crap because it was like, Oh, well they, they wanted rights. And so it's
00:51:22.380
like a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. Well, now it's to the point where they have
00:51:25.740
all the rights and we have no rights. So if my children are at a little league baseball game
00:51:30.960
and there is a lesbian couple groping each other and making out in the bleachers, which
00:51:37.300
by the way, no straight parents ever do that at little league. Like this is only the type
00:51:42.180
of thing that, um, homosexuals would do because they're always attention seeking and they want
00:51:46.920
to be the center of attention. Do I, as a parent have any right to prevent the five-year-olds
00:51:52.760
on the team from, you know, witnessing this? Yeah. What about your five-year-old consent?
00:51:56.720
Okay. Did you get the consent from the kids to, to watch this? Right. Sorry. Go on.
00:52:01.980
And also like, do the coaches and the people who operate the baseball team? No, they have
00:52:06.820
no rights. Like, could you imagine the, um, the lawsuits that would ensue if they were to
00:52:11.500
say a single word to people who are doing this sort of thing? Um, you know, businesses
00:52:16.480
absolutely can't, um, they, like they have to do business with, they have to bake the cake,
00:52:21.300
right? Like it's a meme. We have, they have to, you have to bake the cake and you know,
00:52:24.560
you're going to like it basically. So we're the ones with no rights and you know, it's
00:52:29.580
like this in so many different areas, but it's certainly like this.
00:52:32.820
They're like literally there. I mean, not to get graphic, but they're literally like shoving
00:52:36.340
dicks in your face and they're like, you're not homophobic. Are you? It's like, you're just
00:52:40.420
annoying and disgusting and inappropriate. And I just don't want to look at you. And I certainly
00:52:44.820
don't want my kids to be looking at you. Anyway, Carissa, I saw you wanted to add something
00:52:48.840
there. No, it is. It's just, I mean, they just subtly add in these things too. It's,
00:52:54.380
it's, it's unreal. Like even just, you know, children's books, you have to be mindful of
00:52:58.520
too. Just there, there'll be a lot of subtle things in there that when you bring it to people's
00:53:03.540
attention, they kind of will say, Oh, you're just being paranoid or no, it's just, it's
00:53:06.500
just a rainbow. It's just like, you know, like Sarah was saying, it's just this or that.
00:53:09.540
And it's like, no, there, there's a, there's more of an agenda behind that. I mean, they
00:53:13.200
start by normalizing these things and, and whatnot. And it's just, I don't understand
00:53:17.840
where there's this point at why do you understand? I mean, obviously it's more of a rhetorical
00:53:20.860
thing, but when you have like Wells Fargo backing you and Amazon corporations. Yeah. When they're
00:53:27.820
like changing their logos to rainbows and everything like, no, I mean, it's, you're not
00:53:32.820
a press. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. One thing. Sorry, go on. What, one thing that I think that has happened
00:53:39.600
to with all of this symbolism, because we know how powerful symbolism is. Right. And what I think
00:53:45.800
has happened to a lot of like, of, of adults who maybe aren't politically aligned on the
00:53:51.080
far left or the left necessarily, but it's like, they have forgotten what homosexuality
00:53:56.560
actually is. It's like, they literally don't even process through their mind that we're talking
00:54:01.300
about like sodomy. Like this is sodomy. This is AIDS. This is a hookup culture. Anybody who
00:54:08.140
has spent any amount of time with people who identify in that way and who behave that way can
00:54:14.240
tell you with a half a second, the truth about it. It's, it's, it's often drug. Oh my God,
00:54:20.100
the drugs, the AIDS, like the disease, the STDs, the hookup culture, like it's, you know,
00:54:26.260
and then, and then of course there was this whole, the, the gay marriage thing. I mean, this, I don't
00:54:31.800
know how, if somebody could access the statistics, but I remember a long time ago reading about this
00:54:36.880
and the divorces, like the divorce rate. I mean, how many, like, how many times have you heard
00:54:42.040
about like a homosexual couple, like in your town or your community, they're always getting
00:54:46.120
divorced. Like the relationships do not last. It's, it's an absolute like disgrace to the
00:54:51.700
sanctity of marriage. It's, it's just ridiculous. And, um, and then of course they're adopting
00:54:57.500
children, which should not be allowed. That should absolutely be outlawed. Um, it's just,
00:55:02.780
it's just beyond like this, the situation is, is beyond. And then you see like drag queens doing
00:55:07.200
these presentations for school children in public schools. Every single parent should be at that
00:55:12.580
school right now, withdrawing their child and homeschooling them. Just take them out. Don't,
00:55:16.840
like, don't even bother, you know, protesting or writing letters. Just take them out of school.
00:55:21.440
That's right. And drag queen culture is, is stripper culture. You're right. It's drugs. It's
00:55:26.080
all these inappropriate things where kids don't belong. It's, they don't belong in this environment
00:55:30.000
or exposed to these people. It's this degenerate at night, uh, seedy culture, you know? Yeah. It's just,
00:55:35.820
and the pride festivals generally have always been just like really raunchy and disgusting and in
00:55:41.360
your face, not appropriate for kids. And a lot of these young kids that do get exposed to that,
00:55:45.500
they get convinced, they're trying to convince kids that they're trans. Like you see that it
00:55:48.700
happened. You can convince little kids of anything when they're three, four, five years old, but
00:55:53.140
they're, Oh, are you sure you're not gay? Are you sure you're not trans? Are you sure you're not a
00:55:56.180
boy or not? It's like, they keep trying to do this. Right. And then what happens here? We're looking at
00:56:01.020
Desmond is amazing here. It will turn into this. And I'll be surprised if this boy lives to be
00:56:05.500
14. He already looks like he's on drugs and he's like doing the whole like, uh, pride trans,
00:56:11.660
who knows what thing. And so I just keep thinking, what, what is their end game? And I feel that their
00:56:17.060
end game is destroy the family units, destroy the ability for people to procreate. Right. Um,
00:56:23.960
starting with white countries, of course, it's the trans human agenda. It's destroying what makes us men
00:56:29.460
and women. And also it's a war on procreation, a war on the family unit. That's the thing that
00:56:34.440
makes us the, the healthiest and the strongest as part of the depopulation agenda. Uh, what do you
00:56:40.940
think about that? I, I think that you're right. And another, another thing I wanted to add really
00:56:47.360
quickly about it is that you see this a lot with like white children and let's take a look at what's
00:56:53.280
happened to white children over the past, you know, several decades, like slowly, but surely,
00:56:57.740
and more recently, very quickly, they have been completely broken down. I mean, starting in
00:57:03.460
kindergarten, they are subjected to this anti-white curricula that is just blasting like Anne Frank
00:57:09.620
and Martin Luther King in their faces every year, year after year to make sure that like, they will
00:57:15.140
always remember, you know, how horrible their ancestors were. And on top of that, they're told
00:57:20.500
that they have no culture, um, that their people are, you know, have always just been essentially
00:57:25.400
genocidal maniacs, all of these lies, these absolute lies. This is subversion. It is intentional.
00:57:31.760
It is, it is, it's psychologically traumatizing. And so you would see a lot of these children,
00:57:37.920
they're coming into, you know, like higher grades in school. And then they're coming out and saying,
00:57:42.140
oh, well, I'm, you know, um, trans or like, I have this like weird gender identity or I'm queer.
00:57:48.240
Well, it's because they're told that those are the good kids, that those are the special kids
00:57:52.840
and that they're interesting and that they get put on a pedestal. And so of course,
00:57:56.980
when you have children who've been subjected to all of this deracination and completely stripped
00:58:02.820
down of all of their identity and any sense of natural pride that should naturally exist,
00:58:08.160
then a lot of them as being the young children that they are not knowing any better, will start
00:58:13.220
to adopt these identities. But then our enemies want to tell us that it's always been this way,
00:58:18.420
that this large population of children has always been trans. It's just that now they're free to,
00:58:25.260
you know, kids are like, it's, it's safer for them to like come out now. And it's like, no,
00:58:29.140
I call absolute BS. Like we all know that that is a lie and it's absolute evil. It's just, it's
00:58:37.400
so sad. It is. They want to destroy them. They want to completely break them down. And I think what
00:58:44.140
they want here is that the children are the next generation, you know, and why people, yeah,
00:58:47.780
we've been hit hardest with this Frankfurt, Schooley and Weimar propaganda, because we stand
00:58:52.740
in the way ultimately of total domination. I think if they can completely break these kids down and
00:58:58.840
mold them, that's what they want for this great reset. And then they think that they can have it
00:59:03.240
in the bag, right? You know, agenda 2030, they want us in the city gulag pods, eating the bugs,
00:59:09.340
hooked up to, to this, you know, VR. And I think really having no genitals, having no genitals so
00:59:15.880
that you can't procreate, you just have no, no sex whatsoever, no biological sex and no actual
00:59:20.840
healthy sex. And also just no mind to think with anymore. I mean, I just don't know where,
00:59:26.020
where else, where else is this going? That's what I feel. It's just total death. Now,
00:59:32.880
No, it just, it needs to go back to being considered a mental illness. I mean,
00:59:36.140
because that's exactly what it is. And they've removed that from the textbooks, as we know.
00:59:39.820
But it's also just sad that they, they kind of, you know, pry on these just moments that
00:59:44.320
throughout childhood, you know, like there was something I saw, it was just a stupid meme that
00:59:47.960
said something like, shout out to my mom for not putting me on hormone blockers when I went through
00:59:52.380
a tomboy phase or something. And it's true. Like, I mean, I went through a little tomboy phase,
00:59:56.900
but like nowhere was my mom were like, Oh, do you think, do you think, you know, do you identify as a
01:00:00.260
male or anything like that? It was just like, well, no, I was in the sports and just, you know,
01:00:04.260
eventually you get a little bit more feminine and everything as time goes on. But it's just,
01:00:07.280
it is, it's, it's insane that they, they kind of capitalize on just these, these, you know,
01:00:11.260
things that you go through as you're an adolescent and growing up and, and just finding yourself and
01:00:15.700
everything. But it's just immediately like, Oh, okay, well, this is our, this is our time to,
01:00:19.440
to, to swoop in there and just, you know, totally derail.
01:00:25.060
Destroy their body and mind. The other thing that really gets me too, is that, yeah, like you said,
01:00:29.600
little kids, adolescent stuff, they explore, they're going to explore different parts of their body,
01:00:33.680
and they might even touch them and look at them. It doesn't mean that they're sexual. Like this is
01:00:38.200
what it's become for these pedophile groom. Oh, see, they're thinking about sex because he touched
01:00:42.520
his peepee and he's a toddler. It's just like, this is crazy talk. It used to be things that are
01:00:47.700
just innocent and natural and normal things that humans go through that they're just trying to make
01:00:52.440
everything sexual with kids now. And it's disgusting. We have to put our foot down and
01:00:56.900
shame these people. So yeah, call them pedophiles, call them groomers. Like this is,
01:01:01.380
this is a serious thing. I mean, I, it's, it's, it's a nightmare and everyone should be concerned.
01:01:06.940
It amazes me that there's these liberal moms who are like, Oh, relax, calm down. Like this is one of
01:01:12.500
the biggest things you should be concerned about as a mother. It's just outrageous. Anything you ladies
01:01:17.760
want to add? Well, yeah, I, I remember years ago, actually listening to a red ice interview that you
01:01:26.480
guys had, you had this person on who it was a, a transgender person. And you know, this, this person
01:01:33.400
was talking about how like they, uh, or I don't know if they were transgender. I'm sorry. Maybe
01:01:39.140
they were, they were like homosexual, but they were talking out about it. They were talking about how
01:01:44.600
the origins of a lot of this is in pedophilia, that children who have been abused end up adopting
01:01:51.220
this identity later. And also the suicide rates were, were discussed during this episode. And
01:01:57.000
that's something that is completely suppressed is the actual like scientific data there. You know,
01:02:02.220
if there are studies out there, we're not allowed to see them, but we know that it's true. The suicide
01:02:06.820
rates are high among these people. There's remorse and regret. And, and just the fact that it's even
01:02:13.480
allowed to put children on hormone blockers is almost like beyond, it's almost like beyond my
01:02:22.400
ability, like beyond my ability to conceive, like to conceive the, of the concept. I just like,
01:02:27.880
It's medical malpractice and child abuse. I was just looking into that the other day of,
01:02:31.840
of all the harm that these puberty blockers cause to kids physically. I'm sure you can imagine from bone
01:02:37.380
density to cardio problems, to brain problems, to IQ problems, not to mention emotional and
01:02:43.300
social problems. So we don't know what the long term effects of this are. They're on these puberty
01:02:47.120
blockers. And then afterwards, they go on to all these other hormones. So they're basically slaves
01:02:51.540
to big pharma forever. And like, I'm liberated, I found myself, but I can't be myself without these
01:02:57.140
drugs for the rest of my life. And, and that life will probably be really short to taking all these
01:03:02.940
drugs. It's outrageous. So I know these things are really black pilling. One of the last things to talk
01:03:09.240
about is on the importance of not getting black pilled and staying positive, no matter what it
01:03:14.640
looks like, no matter how hard it is some days, because a lot of times people say, well, why are,
01:03:19.380
why are you bringing attention to these things? We have to know how bad it is. We have to know the
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things that are going on to be equipped to be able to fight back because eventually you might not
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want to fight back or speak out against these things or be concerned about it, but it will find its
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way to your doorstep, your, your kids' minds, your, the school, the place that you work,
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like it's unavoidable. So we have to tackle these things. We have to know what's going on.
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But I say not to be black pilled because so many people are coming awake to these things. They're
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putting their foot down. I think that there's a lot of good, healthy, normal people still.
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We're just getting hit with a lot of the mainstream conditioning in certain circles and media. So we
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think that it's like a lot more people are into these things than, than it really is. They're,
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they're trying to hoodwink us to believe that this is the norm when it really isn't the norm.
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So, uh, Carissa, what are your thoughts on not being black?
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Well, yeah, they definitely, I mean, they want you to be a black pill. They want you to feel
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alone and isolated in these thoughts. And that's why it is important to, to have these conversations
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with people, uh, cause people are waking up. You can find something with people that they will
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agree on, have it be, you know, the mandates or the mask mandates or vaccines or something that's,
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you know, kind of just hits, you know, a little bit of the tip of the iceberg. You know,
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you can, you can start talking about that with people to, to, you know, open those doors a little
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but because like you said, eventually it will, you know, I tell people that all the time that
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eventually this might not be something that's, that's important to you, but eventually it will
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come down to something that is really important to you. And I have seen that happen time and time
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again with people. So I think it's, it's just important to not, to not let it get to you.
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And like we were talking about earlier, just when you do feel that to kind of take that reset time
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to, you know, just get back to your baseline and to just recharge and then get back on the
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horse and, and keep going. I mean, cause it's, you don't want them to win. Cause like I said,
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that that's our main goal is for you to feel isolated and alone and that nobody else thinks
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the way that we do when that's not the case. So a lot more people think the way that we do than
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you, than you might think. Sarah, anything? Yeah. I mean, for me, I feel very fortunate that I have
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children and, you know, an awesome husband who, I mean, we've been together 17 years. We are best
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friends. We've been through so much together. I, that's what keeps me from not getting too
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black-pilled is my family. And, you know, also again, you know, I feel blessed to live in a place
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where it's, you know, nature all around me. So I can go outside. I can be in the sunshine. I can hear
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the birds singing anytime that we're connecting with nature. That is so healing. It's so therapeutic
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and it's so important. It's, um, it's as important as eating a healthy diet and getting exercised,
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you know, just being outside, um, is great. Also a connection with, with our ancestors. I mean,
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Carissa and I are both pagan. I know I'm pretty sure that you are as well, if I'm not mistaken.
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And so we have a strong, um, emphasis on ancestor veneration. And so for me, sometimes just giving
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a little offering, you know, just pouring a glass of wine, you know, for my ancestors, it can help me
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feel connected with them or placing something on the altar, like, um, food that I've cooked and just
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kind of say a little prayer, um, connect with them and, and feel that, you know, your blood is,
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is the same blood of your ancestors and that our people have survived forever and we're going to
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win, but you know, um, there's going to be losses and wins along the way, and it's not always going
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to be winning. Um, like they say, hard times make strong men. Um, we will get through this. The,
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the harder that our enemies push, the more our people wake up and the quicker our people wake up
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and they are awakening. I have encountered, you know, quote unquote normies more recently,
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more so ever, more so than ever recently, excuse me. Um, who are, you know, talking about the things
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that we need to be talking about. So yeah, like you can, you can, uh, you can take the black pills,
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but, um, don't just don't get too black filled. There's really no reason to, because there's going
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to be things in life that are beyond our control. Um, you know, maybe, maybe getting active is a
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solution, you know, becoming an activist, also having a network of friends, not just on the
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internet, but IRL. There's so much going on right now in our movement. There are so many opportunities
01:07:34.280
for meeting other people and forming networks and communities, getting together for picnics
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and being able to talk to people face to face about what's going on is so important. And, um,
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so I guess that would, that would be my advice. Absolutely. Yeah. Camaraderie. You need people
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around you because I noticed a lot of the most black pill people I know are also some of the most
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isolated people that I know. I mean, you have to let out some steam. You have to be able to laugh
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with people. You have to remember, like, there's still a lot of good in this world and go out into
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nature and there's still a lot of happy, healthy families who are completely sane. And actually,
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even when you think of the greater planet, a lot of people agree with us on a lot of things. You
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know, we're just getting hit really hard with this kind of crap in the West and there's just a loud
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vocal minority and sure they're trying to pull kinds of stuff, but in the end, tyranny, yeah,
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sure they can win in the short term, but in the long term, people want to be free. You know,
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they want to be free and they will fight back for that. So anyway, ladies, it's been great having you
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here and connecting with you. It's, it's always a pleasure. It feels like, it feels like yesterday to me,
01:08:38.820
even though it's like several years can go by, but that's how it is when we, we have that,
01:08:42.700
we have that connection, you know? So I want to know where people can find your stuff. Let people
01:08:46.500
know. I know you're on Telegram and Subscribestar, YouTube, DLive, correct? Let us know, Sarah.
01:08:51.280
Yes. Telegram is where we're at daily. We post content there daily, mostly original content,
01:08:59.540
but we also share other channels that we like. So that's definitely the place to find us. You can
01:09:03.960
join the chat and comment on things there if you want. We also have a YouTube channel and a BitChute
01:09:09.640
channel. We are working on getting an Odyssey set up, but not quite there yet. We do have a
01:09:15.260
Subscribestar where we post blogs. So if you want to check that out, you're welcome to.
01:09:19.820
We are also on the old, the old enemy archaic spot. So Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.
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All right. Use it however long you can. Yeah. We don't post there very often,
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but we are there. So there's, you know, ways to reach out, ways to get in touch. So yeah.
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Carissa, anything you want to add there? No, no. She covered. I mean, everywhere you can find us.
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That's right. Are you on Twitter or no? Because I went to go look at your old Twitter from the old
01:09:47.260
show and that was long gone. So. Oh, really? Did you post some naughty things? Yeah.
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Yeah. I got off it a long time ago. I just, I don't know. I never found much use with it. I
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didn't, I didn't really care for it much. So yeah, I just got off of it. Not really for any
01:10:02.840
particular reason. Just didn't. It's kind of boring. Just kind of over it. It's amazing how much
01:10:06.480
time you can waste. I always say I wouldn't be, I don't think I'd be on social media if I wasn't doing
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this. But some days I'm like, ah, it's a hassle. I gotta go post something there. And there's some
01:10:15.460
people that are just like addicted to it. It's amazing how if you just, if you just don't have
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a Twitter, how much more time you can have. Anyway, thank you for coming on. It's been a blast.
01:10:25.480
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01:10:33.440
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01:10:37.780
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