Radio 3Fourteen - Liberals Are Modern Day Witch Hunters

00:00:00.000 Welcome, thanks for joining me, Lana, along with Rachel Summers, who's an author and holds

00:00:19.360 degrees in history, comparative religions, English, literature, and philosophy. In her

00:00:24.840 first ever interview, we'll talk about her novels and compare today's puritanical liberals

00:00:29.360 to the Inquisition and witch hunters of old. And Rachel points to the Nuremberg Trials as

00:00:34.480 another witch hunt that used torture as a confession method. When it comes to religion 0.54

00:00:39.760 and spirituality, pro-whites are a diverse bunch, with practices ranging from paganism

00:00:45.440 to Christians and atheists, transhumanists, and even Satanists and Luciferians. We'll

00:00:51.080 talk about some of these groups, so stick around. Welcome, Rachel Summers. Thanks for being here.

00:00:57.420 Thanks for having me.

00:00:58.220 Well, since you're a new face, tell us a bit about your background. Who are you?

00:01:03.380 I am attempting to be a writer. I guess you could call me a dropout philosopher. That's

00:01:09.300 what a lot of people have called me. I was supposed to get a PhD in philosophy. It didn't quite

00:01:14.840 work out that way. So I decided to write novels instead, and that's what I'm currently doing.

00:01:22.580 I also write for a couple of different websites.

00:01:24.280 Yeah, I also heard that your dissertation proposal was rejected, something that might

00:01:29.940 have caused a scandal. So tell us about what happened there.

00:01:33.460 I was negotiating with a couple of very prestigious institutions that I won't name because the

00:01:39.100 professors were actually really nice to me. And they told me that my dissertation proposal

00:01:44.940 would cause the check-signing alumni to sign less checks if they knew what I was up to.

00:01:50.680 So they tried to get me to change my mind and do all these other things with Professor

00:01:55.060 So-and-so is doing this. You could do your dissertation on that and whatnot. And I just,

00:02:00.120 I said, no, I'm going to do it my way. And I left and started writing books.

00:02:03.680 Now, what was the dissertation going to be about?

00:02:06.800 In a nutshell, witches, whores, heretics, dissenters, outlaws, and rebels, and how they 0.56

00:02:12.140 are the backbone of society, as opposed to, quote unquote, normal people. They didn't want to hear 0.94

00:02:18.960 it. So I left. And I actually went to a motorcycle mechanic school for a year and got a job in a Harley

00:02:24.420 shop. And that's where I wrote my first book.

00:02:26.480 Yeah. Was there other women working there? Or were you one of the few? 1.00

00:02:29.400 I was one of the few. There were a few girls in the clothing department, but I wasn't in 0.96

00:02:34.660 the clothing department. I was in the garage. So yeah, that was different.

00:02:37.980 So who are some of your favorite philosophers and thinkers?

00:02:42.180 How long do we have? Let's see. I guess I started with Nietzsche back in high school.

00:02:49.400 I went to a really small conservative Christian schools, and they told us not to read this guy

00:02:54.460 because he said God is dead. So of course, I'm like, I got to get all his books.

00:02:57.940 Of course.

00:02:58.920 And yeah. So I started with him and moved on to 20th century French existentialists.

00:03:07.160 And they're great writers. They have great stories, but their politics and their social

00:03:11.740 views, I don't quite agree with. But with any thinker, you have to take the good stuff and

00:03:16.220 just leave the rest and move on.

00:03:17.940 I guess the romantic Satanists are also an influence on me. You've got poets like Baudelaire,

00:03:25.760 Le Compte de l'Autremont, Barbouce, Rimbaud, et cetera.

00:03:29.920 And Percy and Shelley would also be in that group as well. Byron and Shelley, excuse me.

00:03:36.860 They were a big influence on me.

00:03:38.520 And moving into more modern times, Russell Jacobi, he's my go-to guy for academic criticism.

00:03:47.080 You got Spengler and Hayek, who did some rather prescient warnings to the Western world.

00:03:51.940 Those are great books.

00:03:53.840 David Irving, I like a lot. He's a very brave scholar. He's done a lot of World War II revisionism.

00:03:59.800 He's been a big influence on me.

00:04:01.800 Really, there's far too many people to name.

00:04:04.360 There are some good ones there, and I definitely want to get into the...

00:04:07.760 I have a large book collection.

00:04:09.540 Yeah, you've used the term ivory tower often, and you wrote a couple articles for the revolutionary

00:04:14.720 conservative Augustus' new website. So what do you mean by ivory tower?

00:04:19.280 That is a metaphor in general for academia and institutions of higher learning. It's just a

00:04:26.200 useful metaphor that you can picture an actual place that is a citadel or even a monastery,

00:04:32.240 if you will, a castle, a place where the elites are, where the rest of us are outside of it,

00:04:37.260 because they seem to have that sort of an attitude.

00:04:39.300 Now, you kind of have an interesting background, so I kind of want to get to a little bit about

00:04:42.640 your journey. So what has your political and social journey been to where you are today?

00:04:48.680 Oh, boy. I guess we could go back to the small Christian schools I went to as a child.

00:04:55.420 None of it made any sense to me. I was always a very questioning and questing kind of a person.

00:05:00.440 So I guess that turned me into a rebellious intellectual, and that theme continued all

00:05:07.300 through college. It wasn't until after my master's degree that I started getting political,

00:05:12.480 if you will. And basically, it's because the world started to lose its collective mind,

00:05:17.820 and I felt like I had to address that rather than hanging out with my medieval tomes and grimoires.

00:05:23.720 It seemed a little more important to deal with what was actually going on in the world.

00:05:27.200 And when you keep your head in a book like that, it's kind of the same as sticking your head in the

00:05:32.920 sand.

00:05:33.640 You had mentioned some Satanist writers. Do you think that some of your interest in some of that

00:05:38.920 is a rebellion from your Christian roots?

00:05:41.620 Oh, yeah. Absolutely it is. Yeah. That was my nickname in high school was Satan.

00:05:46.940 But you know what? Fine. Let's just go with it.

00:05:49.960 Just went with it. You know, it kept the annoying children away from me, so I kind of embraced it.

00:05:55.440 I heard there's actually a whole group. I think it's called The Joy of Satan,

00:05:59.940 a big forum, and there's actually quite a few pro-whites in there. I just learned about this

00:06:05.220 not too long ago. Do you know anything about that?

00:06:08.000 Not much. I try to kind of keep to myself. I don't socialize a whole lot. So I've heard of it,

00:06:14.400 but I have not gotten involved at all.

00:06:16.740 Well, you've written three books. So you had... Tell us about what those titles are and share the

00:06:22.040 themes of these books. Well, I just happen to have them right here.

00:06:25.240 Great.

00:06:26.220 The first one is Condemnation. Let me see. Yeah, there it is. This one's about a modern-day

00:06:31.580 Joan of Arc. Her name is Joan Archer. And rather than riding her horse, she has a Harley. That's

00:06:38.340 when I started working at the Harley shop, so I could get to know the biker lingo and the biker world.

00:06:43.160 And she goes from Atlanta to New Orleans and basically stops a biker war. And her sidekick 0.99

00:06:51.660 is Bluebeard, because that's one of her generals, historically speaking. And they get in all sorts

00:06:58.260 of trouble. And then she ends up dead, of course. Spoiler alert, but we knew that already.

00:07:02.940 And he goes on a rampage. And rather than getting into necromancy, as he did in the 15th century,

00:07:08.680 he gets into voodoo. And the book ends with his execution as well. So it parallels the history

00:07:15.860 of Joan of Arc and Bluebeard, but it's set today. And that's the first one. The second

00:07:21.840 one is Godless. It's right here. And that's a spinoff of the first one. We've got this crazy

00:07:29.380 hand. There's a young girl at the end of Condemnation who is almost murdered by Bluebeard.

00:07:38.480 He tries to kill her. He fails. She survives. She ends up in a mental institution.

00:07:44.060 And she is reading about a 17th century witch trial where there was an entire convent of nuns

00:07:49.940 possessed. And the priest was put on trial and burned for their possession. And she gets her 0.56

00:07:55.920 inquisitors and her doctors confused. So it's like she gets the centuries mixed up, which

00:08:02.800 honestly, modern psychiatry is a whole lot like the Inquisition. That's kind of the point I made

00:08:07.960 of that book. And the third one that's out is The Twisted Rib. That one is also a spinoff

00:08:16.040 story. One of the girls who rides with the biker gang in the first book gets a job at a whorehouse 1.00

00:08:22.580 outside of New Orleans. Only it's not a regular whorehouse. It's kind of a mystical, holy kind

00:08:30.140 of a whorehouse. In Celtic mythology, you have a place known as the Hallows. It's the in-between 0.89

00:08:36.300 realms. And that's where the whorehouse is. So only people who are spiritually meant to be there 1.00

00:08:41.340 can find it. And the characters are the bad girls, if you will, from the Bible. It goes backwards from

00:08:48.120 Mary Magdalene to Lilith.

00:08:50.660 Yeah, you focus on a lot of female leads. So how do they really differ from a lot of the modern female 0.99

00:08:55.440 feminist-driven roles we see so much in movies and books today? 1.00

00:08:59.640 I guess my women are different in that they have this overarching sense of moral duty. Whether 1.00

00:09:07.320 it's spiritual, political, social, or whatever, it's beyond their personal selves. And a lot of

00:09:13.380 feminists I see today are very self-centered and selfish, childish. They don't think past one 1.00

00:09:18.320 generation, which is their own. And I don't think that's a good idea at all. So my characters are,

00:09:25.800 I guess, they have a mission from God, if you will. And that's what they're about. It's not about

00:09:33.480 them at all.

00:09:34.880 Now, what are your thoughts on feminism today? 1.00

00:09:41.680 Oh, God, that's just a horrible subject. I don't like it, honestly. There was a time when

00:09:48.680 feminism was very necessary because women, they should have choices. Women should have choices. 1.00

00:09:54.660 choices. And there was a time when they didn't. So there was a need for feminism. But it's gone 1.00

00:09:59.780 way, way, way too far. A personal story. A few years ago, an elderly woman whose husband had just

00:10:07.340 died pulled me aside and told me that she was relieved that he was dead. This woman has eight 0.51

00:10:14.080 children, several miscarriages, and she didn't want any of it. She wanted to go to college, and she

00:10:19.420 never had that choice. And she was happy that her husband was dead. She didn't want her family to

00:10:24.820 know. So I'm not going to say who it was. But that, that story tells you that we definitely needed

00:10:30.740 feminism. But to go from that to running around in the streets, waving dildos and screaming about 1.00

00:10:36.520 your vagina, and wearing a t shirt that says how many abortions you've had has just gone way, 1.00

00:10:41.260 way, way too far. 1.00

00:10:42.040 Yeah, well, in the case of that woman, then she should have just not got married or had kids. I 1.00

00:10:47.260 guess she could have not.

00:10:48.300 She shouldn't have. But that's where you get religious oppression. It was God's will. He

00:10:53.800 convinced her. Her husband said it was God's will that you have all these children. And she bought

00:10:57.760 into it. And that was the end of it for her.

00:11:00.860 So are you still in that Christian paradigm? Or did you actually break out of that?

00:11:04.280 No, no, no, I've never been in it.

00:11:06.360 Yeah, you just were, you just grew up in it.

00:11:08.600 My parents sent me to private school because the public schools were no good.

00:11:13.800 That was pretty much the only reason, but we never really went to church. So I was always an

00:11:18.280 outsider. And I appreciate that perspective. I got to know Christianity, I guess, from a perspective

00:11:25.900 where you could see what was really going on rather than being involved in it directly.

00:11:29.320 Now, thinking in terms of modern society, I know you're a critic. We share a lot of

00:11:36.060 similar views now. So what is your critique of modern society, things that you don't like?

00:11:44.220 There's a lot that I don't like. I guess it's going to sound hypocritical given what we're

00:11:48.880 doing. But technology is a huge problem, I think, for people. I went jogging downtown not too long

00:11:54.740 ago. I was in the business district. And it was like they were filming The Walking Dead or

00:11:59.980 something. I'm looking around. Everyone is, they're in their nice business clothes, but they

00:12:03.820 are all completely miserable. They're just shuffling around with a screen in their face 0.61

00:12:07.200 and giving me dirty looks because I'm out enjoying my life and I don't have a screen in my face.

00:12:12.740 And I thought, that's just really sad.

00:12:14.300 And I worked at a preschool when my kids were really young. And we would have the parents

00:12:21.280 complaining that they don't see their kids enough, which is true. But when you're driving

00:12:25.860 the Mercedes and you have two houses and you have a boat and you have all this and you're

00:12:29.460 complaining that you can't take care of your kids because you have to pay the bills, then you

00:12:32.840 might be a little too materialistic. And that's another huge problem with society. Everybody wants

00:12:39.180 the things. They want this, that, and the other. And they don't seem to understand how it affects

00:12:43.780 them emotionally.

00:12:45.680 Now, what about politically and thinking in terms of Trump and everything that's going

00:12:49.820 on? Are you a fan of that or not a fan of Trump?

00:12:54.540 I think he has the potential to do a lot of good. And I hope that he does. But the population

00:13:01.380 acting the way it is, I don't know that he's going to be allowed to do any good. Everyone

00:13:04.720 seems to be determined to sabotage him. And I hope that ends. He's only been the president

00:13:09.840 for, what, a few weeks now. I'm hoping things calm down, but I'm not sure. It could get worse

00:13:16.840 before it gets better. But I wish him all the best. He's inherited a gigantic mess.

00:13:22.080 Now, what do you think about the current state of Western society? Obviously, it's being

00:13:28.460 destroyed. What are some of the root causes you think we can point to for that?

00:13:34.420 The root cause? I would go all the way back to monotheism in general, in and of itself. I

00:13:40.980 would say that was a huge root cause of what's going on in the West. And it's just a giant 0.54

00:13:45.320 problem. If you read Genesis, just those first few chapters, it tells you that this planet

00:13:51.620 is yours. You can do what you please. Because guess what? You're temporary. This is a temporary

00:13:57.800 home and you get to go to heaven at some point. That is a recipe for disaster. And it's present

00:14:04.200 in all three of the monotheistic faiths. And I think that is a huge root problem of what's 0.96

00:14:09.100 going on in the world right now. And of course, that root has branched off in several different

00:14:14.240 directions. One of those directions leads from the Torah to the Talmud. And if you read

00:14:20.020 that, you read all sorts of not so pleasant things about not only owning the planet's natural

00:14:25.680 resources and everything here, you own the people who are not the same as you. There is

00:14:32.760 quite a bit of historical evidence that I won't get into right now that shows that a faction

00:14:38.020 of society took that to heart and has acted accordingly. A couple of examples might be

00:14:44.020 like the Frankfurt School of Cultural Marxism, that sort of thing. Another branch from that

00:14:49.300 same very rotten root is the masochism that is so obvious in Christianity. You get the I'm 0.99

00:14:57.420 not worthy, he's the whole forgive me and so on. It's absolute rubbish and it will destroy 0.99

00:15:01.920 Europe if we let it. In my opinion, that's just psyops and crowd control. 1.00

00:15:08.020 At its finest. And the result we see today is an emasculated society. We're ripe for conquest

00:15:15.020 if we don't, forgive me for saying, if we don't take our collective balls down from the cross 0.97

00:15:21.200 and stop acting so wimpy. But we're taught to be passive, to turn the other cheek and that 0.95

00:15:28.020 if you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Whereas conversely, Islam is taught that you do 1.00

00:15:35.020 do live by the sword. In fact, you convert by the sword. So in a very oversimplified nutshell,

00:15:42.020 you have Jewish politics that encourages Muslim immigration into very passive Christian lands 1.00

00:15:47.600 and bam, you have chaos. And I know it's infinitely more complicated than that. 0.87

00:15:53.580 It's a Gordian knot, actually, but maybe what we need is a pagan hero to come in and slice the whole 1.00

00:16:00.480 thing to bits. Who knows? Now, looking around in Europe today, most of them aren't Christians 1.00

00:16:06.580 anymore. Western Europe, Northern Europe. But do you think that Christian influence has still kind

00:16:11.040 of been there? It's infected liberalism. I think it's so ingrained in who we are that it's going

00:16:16.900 to take a few centuries to shake that off. It's also the whole white guilt idea, which builds off

00:16:23.400 of the Christian masochism. We were just ready for that sort of thing, which is unfortunate because 1.00

00:16:28.380 it's not earned. I guess one of the other negative things when comparing paganism versus

00:16:32.360 Christianity is that Christianity has been more global, right? Everyone can be a part of it,

00:16:38.420 whereas paganism was more based on tribes and kind of an ethno-religion, if you will.

00:16:44.200 Yes. And now we're taught that tribalism is bad, especially if you're white. You can't stick to your 0.88

00:16:49.560 own people. You can't help your own people or you get called a racist.

00:16:53.020 You're working on a presentation about witch hunts. And I also view, you know, liberals,

00:16:57.980 basically what they're doing today, how they're, you know, hunting white right-wingers is kind of

00:17:03.700 like a modern-day puritanical witch hunt. So do you see parallels between the Salem witch trials

00:17:09.520 with today's lefties? Absolutely. And I wouldn't just say Salem. I would say the witch trials in

00:17:15.520 general all across Europe and here in New England. What we have in this society now, as opposed to the 0.73

00:17:22.040 religious stupor that they had in the Middle Ages, is a pill popper society. Everybody seems to be on 1.00

00:17:27.520 something. And if they're not on actual medication, they're in some sort of tech slumber. People just

00:17:34.340 aren't clear. Their minds aren't clear. They're fuzzy, which means they're easily manipulated.

00:17:38.460 They're easily controlled and they're pliable. And that's the kind of citizens that a lot of people

00:17:43.340 on the left seem to want. The crowds aren't pointing and screaming witch anymore. They're

00:17:48.040 pointing and screaming Nazi or fascist, racist, bigot. Pick the label. It doesn't really matter. 0.99

00:17:53.300 Either way, the crowd just seems to need a victim. And that translates well into the Nuremberg trials,

00:18:00.880 which I've been reading a lot about lately. It was an absolute farce of a trial. And you could

00:18:05.740 easily compare it to the most notorious witch burnings. Today, of course, it isn't about some

00:18:10.740 17th century priest that allegedly causes a convent possession. I mean, today we would laugh about that.

00:18:15.900 But now what we have, it's probably even worse what we have now. We have thought crimes that are

00:18:22.420 manifesting as flesh and blood assaults. The more you scream racist, the more racism you create.

00:18:30.340 And I don't think people realize that. But that's definitely what I see going on around me. Very

00:18:36.420 passive people have become almost violent because they feel like they have to defend themselves from 0.96

00:18:42.960 these ridiculous accusations. It reminds me of a passage I read in a book called Gods of War. It's

00:18:50.000 written by a former SS soldier. And he was in a denazification camp after the war. And one of the

00:18:57.740 guys he was with was a pilot. And this pilot was not a Nazi. He was not a member of a National Socialist

00:19:04.140 Party. He was not an SS soldier. He was just some guy who got drafted into the war. But of course,

00:19:10.480 they're interrogating him every day. Are you a Nazi? Are you a Nazi? Are you a Nazi? Over and over

00:19:15.420 again. And he finally said, I'm not a Nazi, but I am becoming one right now. Yeah. And that's kind

00:19:20.940 of how I feel. Yeah. You know, when people yell Nazi at you, like, no, but maybe that's a good idea. 1.00

00:19:27.140 Yeah. I mean, I hear people saying it all the time. It's ridiculous.

00:19:30.680 The left is creating Nazis. Yeah. They don't seem to even know what the word means. 1.00

00:19:38.260 But we know a lot more about Nuremberg and the trials and World War II in general now. And that

00:19:44.480 knowledge, I think, is our power. Because we can disarm those words that they throw against us

00:19:52.060 constantly. Do you think by people being called fascist and Nazi nonstop that maybe more people are

00:19:58.540 going to begin to actually look in that period of history and be curious about, well, what actually

00:20:03.300 was a Nazi fascist? Right. I think that they already have. I've noticed just I sell books. That's what 0.75

00:20:12.220 I do. I work at a bookstore and I get a lot of the publishing insider magazines. It's interesting,

00:20:18.960 the books that have gone up in sales tremendously since Trump was elected. And there's a lot about

00:20:24.600 fascism, a lot about World War II, a lot about totalitarianism. It's very interesting to see

00:20:29.720 what's going on just from a book buyer's perspective. And I noticed fascism, too, is one of those terms

00:20:36.320 that's been very hard for people to define. And a lot of times you see these cucks on the ride who

00:20:41.920 use it just to call out these, you know, Antifa protesters. They call them fascists. And it's like, 0.86

00:20:46.720 no, they're actually the exact opposite of fascists. You know, communists and fascists are like mortal

00:20:52.360 enemies here. True. Very true. If you'd like, I can read a little bit out of the next book that

00:20:58.300 I'm working on. This is going to be a very political book for me. The other ones were more

00:21:03.100 philosophical. But quite frankly, I'm mad. And I changed the tone of this book when I started.

00:21:08.760 It was originally supposed to be about the fine line between a saint and a witch.

00:21:12.880 And I had two late medieval examples that I was going to talk about. But given all that's going on

00:21:18.240 in the world right now, I kind of turned it into a very prolonged tantrum. But the character

00:21:24.360 is going on a road trip. She was actually friends with Joan Archer in the first book. And after Joan

00:21:31.280 dies, she goes on a road trip. And this book that I'm working on now is her road trip. So it's a novel,

00:21:38.040 but it's also just simply her interactions with people. And a lot of these interactions have

00:21:43.920 been mine. Just because I go out on foot. I don't even have a car. I'm out on foot all the time.

00:21:49.200 I talk to people. So a lot of the stories and interactions that she has with people in here

00:21:54.840 actually happened to me. So I thought, well, you know what, I may as well just turn that into a

00:21:59.080 book with everything that's going on in the world right now. It might be time for it.

00:22:02.920 But she kind of had a little tantrum about the Nuremberg trials that I could read to you if you'd like.

00:22:07.580 Yeah, go for it. Let's hear it.

00:22:08.800 Okay. The witch hunts were absolute horrors and the trials a travesty of justice. But we know that

00:22:14.800 now. At Nuremberg, when will we classify that farce as a show trial? Nothing more. Soon,

00:22:20.980 for one can only push down the truth for so long. It always surfaces even if downstream.

00:22:26.400 We know the Nazi defendants were tortured, even permanently maimed to extract confessions.

00:22:31.540 We also know that confessions obtained under torture are not reliable. We know documents were

00:22:36.760 forged. We know defense attorneys weren't allowed to admit mountains of evidence. We know a certain

00:22:42.000 narrative had to be fed to a hungry public, and so it was. Perhaps the most glaring truths are the

00:22:47.380 war crimes committed by the Allies, swept under a proverbial rug by every 1950s housewife. With time,

00:22:54.120 all those rotting German corpses have begun to stink and can be hidden no longer. As many historians have

00:22:59.780 said, the truth will out. These historians, of course, are rejected, even fined, and arrested. But why?

00:23:06.760 So many questions, and they had the nerve to ask them. That's why. When it's a crime to even ask

00:23:12.000 a question about a historical event, as any historian would any other historical event,

00:23:16.880 one should be suspicious. What is so disconcerting about the understory of World War II that we must

00:23:22.800 forever leave these events shrouded in a sacrosanct darkness? Are the horrors of Auschwitz really so

00:23:28.320 terrible to contemplate? Perhaps the reverse is true. Perhaps the horrors weren't so horrible.

00:23:33.800 When it's bad news that less people were killed, something is amiss. And so there are questions.

00:23:40.320 So many questions. We were supposed to find answers at Nuremberg, and we did. But only those

00:23:45.840 answers that fit a preconceived narrative. All else was inadmissible. Archives have been open to

00:23:52.080 the public since the trial, and the Inquisitive can now trace the motives of these Allied investigators.

00:23:57.140 What we see is not flattering. There are even records stating that all the records should be

00:24:02.620 destroyed. When purveyors of justice have sufficient motive for destroying records, something is amiss.

00:24:09.720 On December 10, 1948, the United Nations declared that the retroactive application of criminal law was

00:24:15.960 a violation of human rights. In other words, if the law did not yet exist at the time of a crime,

00:24:21.300 one could not be prosecuted under that law. Such a tenet seems so glaringly obvious, but it wasn't

00:24:27.500 at Nuremberg, where defendants were handpicked, then laws drafted, that the chosen criminals were

00:24:32.540 condemned for breaking. This was unjust at best, but it was politics as usual in the upper echelons of

00:24:37.980 corruption. When new laws are written solely to create criminals deemed guilty before a trial begins,

00:24:44.020 something is amiss. Yes, something was amiss at Nuremberg. It was a mistrial, a miscarriage of justice,

00:24:50.200 a mistake. To the Allies staging the trial, it was appeasement, empty calories fed to a hungry

00:24:55.880 public who knew only that unspeakable things had happened and someone had to pay. What an eager

00:25:01.320 audience this public was, laughing up propaganda like well-trained dogs. Are we any different now?

00:25:07.920 That was her rant about that. It goes on and on, but I'll spare you.

00:25:11.300 Yeah, I mean, I've seen footage from the trials, and it's just unbelievable what happens there.

00:25:17.260 It really is. It's a joke. If people haven't seen it, they actually need to watch that. It's very

00:25:22.260 telling, and some people were forced to recant under threat. They were threatening to, you know,

00:25:27.220 kill families. No, they were tortured, like really sincerely tortured, and anybody who's studying the

00:25:34.660 witch trials knows that you can't, you can only torture somebody so much, they're going to tell you 1.00

00:25:38.380 anything you want to hear. And what about their evidence? What evidence did they present?

00:25:43.460 They didn't really have any. No, they didn't.

00:25:47.740 They had forged documents that we know were forged. They had hearsay. They had gossip. They had the

00:25:53.840 confessions extracted under torture. None of that would be admissible in just say an average murder

00:25:58.960 trial today. It just wouldn't fly. Now, this period of history, though, is just so ingrained in people's

00:26:06.840 heads. It's like they don't even go to look in that period of history anymore. They're almost,

00:26:13.020 it's already, their mind's already made up. There's a smoke screen.

00:26:16.120 But there's a lot of people like you and I, and I'm meeting people left and right all the time who

00:26:21.220 are researching this period of history and are like, wow, I had no idea all these things, and

00:26:26.160 it's coming out. Do you think that it's even possible that something like this can seep into the

00:26:30.940 mainstream, considering all the anti-Nazi, anti-Hitler propaganda that's forced into us from

00:26:37.500 a young age? I mean, we all learn about the Holocaust around the world, basically.

00:26:42.340 Right. I think it's possible, and I think it's happening, and perhaps that's part of the reason

00:26:46.820 for the backlash, is people know that the truth is slowly leaking out, and they're panicking.

00:26:51.980 But maybe that's an overly optimistic view of things, but I definitely think that you can't hide

00:26:56.560 the truth forever. It's going to come out. It's going to surface. Yeah, and a good thing to tell

00:27:01.220 people who are normies who are, you know, against looking into this period of history is like, okay,

00:27:05.840 well, why does the truth have to be protected by law, and why do people go to prison for questioning

00:27:11.080 this particular event? That should be a huge red flag. I mean, that's what got me to question and

00:27:16.180 look into it. Oh, why can't, why are people going to prison for questioning and looking into this

00:27:21.520 period of history? Why is there so much, you know, no taboo around this area? So of course it's going

00:27:27.900 to make more people want to go look into it. Definitely. Absolutely. So what do you think

00:27:33.360 can be done to fight back against a lot of these modern-day witch hunts? Because it's back. The

00:27:38.400 Inquisition is back, and there are lefties that are, you know, trannies and gays and feminists and 1.00

00:27:44.760 people preaching about diversity, but they're an Inquisition. 0.97

00:27:48.060 Oh, absolutely. I think, building on what we talked about before, when you know the past,

00:27:55.560 when you know, when you have that knowledge, that is your power. For example, if you know beforehand

00:28:00.180 that someone is about to tell you a lie, you're obviously not going to fall for it. You're not

00:28:03.480 going to believe them. So if someone throws down a victim card and says, you can't say, think, or do

00:28:10.420 this or that because of event X. Well, but you know, their so-called event X was actually more

00:28:18.520 of an event Y. They have lost their power. So simply knowing what really happened stops a lot

00:28:25.980 of arguments. And also, if you take these words and just turn them back around on them,

00:28:31.900 they can't use them against you. So if you don't care if somebody calls you a racist or a Nazi,

00:28:37.560 they're going to stop eventually. One would hope.

00:28:41.360 Yeah, it just, it loses its power. It loses its grip.

00:28:44.260 It absolutely loses its power.

00:28:45.280 And right now, basically, the left calls everybody a Nazi. They call Trump a Nazi for crying out loud.

00:28:51.520 I've been called a Nazi.

00:28:52.220 Yeah, I mean...

00:28:53.080 Why?

00:28:53.500 Pretty much any standard Republican now is being called a Nazi. So it's just, it's losing its meaning

00:29:00.140 altogether.

00:29:00.940 It loses its meaning, but I also think we can add to the, to add to its demise, if you will,

00:29:06.100 by just simply redefining the word. And there's concrete historical examples. I'm going to,

00:29:13.360 I'm going to read a little more of the book to you. We must ask, what does it mean to be a Nazi?

00:29:18.520 The Nazis saw themselves as a shield between Bolshevism and the rest of Europe. Remember,

00:29:23.160 before the Iron Curtain and the Cold War, we were allies with the Red Monster and didn't fully 0.97

00:29:27.720 understand the extent of the communist crimes. Germany did. They were nearly taken over themselves 0.66

00:29:33.300 and saw firsthand what the Russian had been reduced to under the Bolshevik boot. Europe could not fall

00:29:38.880 to this fore, and so the Nazi put himself between the Red Terror and the rest of the Western world.

00:29:43.800 Is that what it means to be a Nazi? You can say things like that when they call you a Nazi,

00:29:48.420 and it really throws people off. But just keep going. Who qualifies as a Nazi? What about the

00:29:54.100 lost little boy wandering the war-ravaged countryside with his four-year-old sister begging

00:29:58.680 Americans for food? When asked about his family, he mumbly replied that grandma and grandpa were dead

00:30:05.060 and mommy was lost. Was daddy a dead Nazi blown to bits somewhere nearby? Is the whole family guilty

00:30:11.900 of the heil? Maybe they were all Nazis. Maybe those lost and hungry children got what they deserved. 0.84

00:30:16.760 What about both the German soldier and civilian fighting to the bitter end on the brutal Eastern

00:30:22.400 Front? Everywhere stained with rape, torture, and murder encouraged by commissars who were largely 0.55

00:30:28.180 Jewish as well as propaganda fed to them by the hate monger Ilya Ehrenberg screaming kill kill kill 1.00

00:30:34.920 take the German woman as your lawful booty. Is it all right to rape a woman to death if she qualifies 1.00

00:30:40.660 as a Nazi? The Fuhrer didn't think so, and he ranted and raved in desperation to stop the 0.99

00:30:46.620 terror from raping all of Europe. Hitler vowed to protect the dignity of the West. Is that what 0.78

00:30:51.700 it means to be a Nazi? Maybe the soldiers were all Nazis. These were young men drafted into a war

00:30:58.180 beyond their control, captured, jailed, and tortured. They were beaten severely, starved, dehydrated,

00:31:04.280 chained, and forced to stand until they collapsed. Cigarettes were put out in their mouths, which they

00:31:08.980 then had to eat. They were pressed against burning radiators, crowded into small cells, kept at extremely

00:31:14.360 high temperatures. So they were always fed sparingly foods, highly spiced with salt, pepper, and mustard

00:31:21.160 to make their thirst unbearable, and they were not allowed to sleep for days. This is the condition

00:31:26.960 they were brought to trial in. This is what they were due to before the question, are you a Nazi?

00:31:32.140 Many said yes to stop the torture. Is that what it means to be a Nazi? So the next time somebody

00:31:38.300 tells you a Nazi, ask them what they mean by that, and maybe throw down some historical examples of

00:31:42.780 the not-so-bad Nazis. 0.87

00:31:45.580 And also when they say you're a Nazi, and you're a communist, so what's your point? We can't get

00:31:49.880 along.

00:31:51.060 Why?

00:31:51.700 You know, we're mortal enemies here, so let's just separate. But they don't want that, do they?

00:31:56.500 They don't want to separate. They want to be in our space dictating, telling us what to do,

00:32:00.980 mass murdering so-called Nazis. I mean, right? They don't want to separate.

00:32:04.320 No. Absolutely not. It's, um, I guess I would call it hypocrisy at its finest. They do exactly

00:32:13.440 what they accuse others of doing, and it's almost like, hey, look over there, don't watch us,

00:32:20.120 because we're doing what we're accusing you of doing. We don't want you to know. It's all very

00:32:25.000 bizarre what's going on right now.

00:32:26.760 Well, thinking in terms of mindset, what is the best mindset, the best approach,

00:32:30.500 do you think, to combat leftist totalitarianism? What's the best tactic?

00:32:36.160 You know, when I think about that, I can't help but think, my son's going to kill me.

00:32:41.140 I think of him, he's on a rugby team, and he's a very big boy, and I've seen him run with two or

00:32:47.300 three other guys just hanging off of him. And that's kind of what you have to do with these

00:32:52.360 leftists who want to insult you, is just keep going. Just keep going. Just plow through them and

00:32:58.480 keep going. Do what you have to do. And if they, you know, just get the score. Get the touchdown.

00:33:05.040 Let them try to drag you down, but they can't.

00:33:08.500 Well, also, switching subject, I know that there's a large sect of pro-whites who are

00:33:12.920 in the occult and the left-hand path, Luciferianism, but then we also have a large group of, you know,

00:33:19.060 pagans and Christians and atheists. We really are a truly diverse bunch when it comes to

00:33:24.320 spiritual interests, which I think is good. It's good that we're actually tolerant of that. We

00:33:29.700 even have transhumanists in the mix. I don't even know what that means.

00:33:34.020 So where do you fit into the mix?

00:33:38.180 You know, I'm honestly not sure. I guess I kind of got on the left-hand path, so to speak,

00:33:44.580 because no one else would have me. The Satanists and such are the only people I don't seem to scare

00:33:50.820 to death. So that's kind of how I ended up there, but I don't identify as a Satanist,

00:33:56.800 a Luciferian, or anything like that. I guess if I had to define myself, I would be a very informal

00:34:03.780 pagan. I don't necessarily do the rituals the way they say you're supposed to. I don't necessarily

00:34:09.260 even do rituals. That kind of goes back to the whole antinomian idea that I have in my author bio.

00:34:18.120 It's antinomian means against the law. And what that meant for a medieval mystic, for instance,

00:34:25.120 was you didn't have to follow the laws of the church. You could kind of do your own thing.

00:34:29.420 A lot of these saints and even some of the heretics that were burned for it felt like they were on a

00:34:35.440 mission. They had this job to do. They were here just to accomplish this or that, and they didn't

00:34:41.080 have to follow the church rules. They were going to talk to God themselves, say, instead of getting the

00:34:45.620 priests to do it for them. And that's kind of the idea with my religiosity. I guess you could say I

00:34:52.180 don't really follow the rules because I have work to do. A lot of it's quite silly, honestly. 0.80

00:34:58.580 When it comes to Satanism, though, it's still in the same paradigm, though, really, of monotheism 0.82

00:35:02.400 and Christianity, right, of the Abrahamic religions.

00:35:05.820 LeVean Satanism is. LeVean Satanism is atheistic, but like any religion, Satanism splintered.

00:35:12.860 People started fighting. And so there's a whole variety of Satanists out there now.

00:35:18.240 And you never know what you're dealing with. You just kind of have to ask them.

00:35:21.360 And then how do they differ from the Luciferians?

00:35:24.700 I think the Luciferians, I would say, are a little more on the philosophical side of things,

00:35:29.800 in that Lucifer is almost a Promethean figure. So he's bringing knowledge to humans,

00:35:37.980 and hence has the bad reputation that he has. But Satanists are a little more, I guess,

00:35:46.600 mainstream and out there in the public view. Luciferians tend to be a lot more quiet and

00:35:52.220 keep to themselves.

00:35:54.040 Any Satanists I've come across have actually all been liberals.

00:35:56.940 You know, they're still, like, into diversity.

00:36:00.520 Yeah, they're pretty liberal, and they like to get attention. 0.61

00:36:05.780 I don't know. I think it's...

00:36:07.400 Luciferians aren't quite like that, I don't think. But that's, you know, I've had a limited

00:36:11.540 experience because I tend to stay in my room and write books.

00:36:16.760 Now, you mentioned the left-hand path. So for people that have never heard that,

00:36:20.400 what does that mean? What is the left-hand path?

00:36:22.500 I guess, funny enough, a very good definition of what the left-hand path is can be found in

00:36:29.100 the Gospel of Matthew, of all places. It's that verse, I don't know the exact way it's

00:36:34.920 worded, but there's thousands of translations at this point, so it doesn't really matter.

00:36:39.520 He talks about the way to salvation being narrow and difficult and arduous, but the way to damnation

00:36:48.880 is wide open and comfortable. I kind of see that in a similar light with the left-hand path. It's

00:36:55.700 going to be a little more narrow and difficult, whereas your right-hand people, like Christianity, 0.97

00:37:01.260 the big three religions, even though the love and light pagan group is going to be on the wide,

00:37:05.900 comfortable path. It's more mainstream. It's more accepted by society. It's a little easier to get

00:37:12.540 along.

00:37:12.920 Now, there are a lot of people like us that think like us, a lot of pro-whites that call

00:37:17.940 themselves pagan, and there's a lot of people that have, there's a lot of misunderstandings about

00:37:21.640 what they think that is. They think, you know, the term LARPing comes into play. They think we go

00:37:25.840 dress up and role play. So what does it mean to you when you say, I'm a pagan?

00:37:33.320 It means I would adhere to older gods, and I don't like monotheism. I think it's very bad for

00:37:41.900 people, very bad for the planet. I am not a formal pagan, and then I don't stick to this one

00:37:48.880 pantheon as opposed to another pantheon. My degree is actually in religious studies, so I just,

00:37:54.460 I like religion. I like studying different gods, and some of them I like more than others. It's

00:37:59.420 pretty much that simple.

00:38:01.280 Yeah, the other aspect of paganism and thinking in terms of Europe and in Scandinavia and Eastern

00:38:07.020 Europe, it's about being in touch with the earth's natural cycles and honoring, you know, fertility and

00:38:12.740 the change in season. It's as grounded as you can be, I think. It's not just a fairy tale guy in the

00:38:19.940 sky all the time. It's very grounded. It's based on blood and soil and land, right?

00:38:23.840 And that kind of brings it back to the whole left-hand path idea, where people that are on

00:38:28.880 the left-hand path don't have a problem with the darker side of religion. You have destruction as

00:38:35.360 well as creation. You have to have both. You have to have winter. You have to have summer. You have

00:38:39.000 dark. You have light. You have good. You have bad. You have male and female. It's about balance,

00:38:44.060 and a lot of the more mainstream religions don't want to acknowledge the darker side of things,

00:38:51.020 but I think a healthier view is to acknowledge the beast within, if you will, and that's just a

00:38:58.660 much healthier attitude to have. You can't just focus all on the happy stuff and pretend the bad

00:39:03.840 stuff isn't there. That's right. That's right. And also, I think ritual is important. Europeans need 1.00

00:39:08.760 that. We need to remember some of the old rituals. I did a video on Christmas and the, you know,

00:39:14.260 Nordic origins, actually. So, I mean, so people are doing these rituals without knowing it. It's

00:39:20.120 important to know where these rituals came from, and I think resurrect even some old ones. I mean,

00:39:24.400 Easter's another one, for instance. You know, Halloween. All these things actually do come from

00:39:29.680 pagan aspects of European culture, so it's good to know what those actually are and honor them for

00:39:35.380 what they are because that's what our ancestors did. So, you get more in touch with them when you

00:39:39.580 go through these rituals, through these motions, I think. Ritual and tradition is good so long as you

00:39:45.200 are conscious of what you are doing. So many people fall into the trap where they're just,

00:39:50.980 with their rosaries, they're just mindlessly going through the motions. They're not actually

00:39:55.500 thinking about what they're doing. They're just doing it. It's repetitious. So, I think if you're

00:40:01.300 going to get into rituals and traditions, you need to be conscious of what you are doing and

00:40:05.960 actually be present in it and not just zone out.

00:40:09.000 Also, you're a mother, so are you raising your kids kind of with some pagan aspects or

00:40:13.420 how are you raising them? Are you teaching them about things in the world right now?

00:40:18.140 Funny enough, their grandpa, my ex-father-in-law, is a pastor. He's a Seventh-day Adventist pastor and

00:40:25.680 he's constantly trying to get them to get baptized and they're constantly telling him to go away.

00:40:31.740 It's been kind of awkward, but it's kind of funny at the same time. I hate to say that,

00:40:36.100 but I didn't raise them to be this, that, or the other. I raised them to think for themselves

00:40:41.000 and I exposed them to several different sources, different books they've been reading since they

00:40:47.880 were tiny, tiny little things. I want them to know that they have a mind of their own and they

00:40:54.320 can make up their own mind. Now, what are you doing to help them remember or know what their

00:41:00.760 European culture is, your ancestry or that we came from Europe? What are some things that you do for

00:41:05.640 your children so that they are rooted in their European past?

00:41:10.540 Well, you just mentioned all the Yule and Christmas traditions. That wasn't too long ago. We

00:41:16.820 actually looked up some old Scandinavian recipes. We made some cookies. We talked about the way they

00:41:24.020 used to decorate and where different Christmas traditions that we call a Christian now actually

00:41:28.660 came from. I pretty much do that with every holiday. Every holiday, we end up in the kitchen,

00:41:34.200 of course, but that's a good way to teach your kids about where they come from. We also do just

00:41:40.400 as far as local history goes, we go on history hikes. I don't live too far from Kennesaw Mountain

00:41:46.000 and there was a huge civil war battle there. So I will take, it probably drives them crazy,

00:41:52.700 but I'll take notes with us and read them stories of what actually happened while we were there in the

00:41:57.760 place where it happened. Nice. And it just so happens that their uncle, their great uncle on my mother's

00:42:03.680 side was the general at that battle. So we kind of have a personal interest in it as well. Very nice.

00:42:09.280 But we go all over Atlanta and we say, okay, what happened here in this spot? This is where your uncle

00:42:14.980 watched Atlanta burn. So it's kind of cool to stand in the same place.

00:42:18.800 Now, has your family been in America for a long time?

00:42:20.820 I believe it was sometime in the 1600s that the first ancestor came over from northern Spain. He

00:42:29.140 was a criminal. He escaped from some prison and stowed away on a cargo ship. I come from criminals. 0.95

00:42:39.620 That's my mom's side of the family. My dad's side was a little different. They were largely

00:42:44.360 indentured servants. Northern European indentured servants.

00:42:47.960 Oh, really? Well, that's good. Your family passes down that memory. Yeah. Indentured servants

00:42:52.460 lived in worse conditions than slaves. People listening should check out the Red Ice interview 0.86

00:42:57.080 with Michael Hoffman. It was called The Untold History of the Enslavement of Whites in Early

00:43:02.200 America. It's a really good one. We've heard from a lot of listeners who say that their families were

00:43:06.600 slaves. I think it's important to pass down this history to remember what your ancestors went through

00:43:11.080 to get here. Yeah, they passed down stories. My grandfather told me when he was just a baby,

00:43:18.880 his mother actually raised some of the black kids because their mother died giving birth and she had

00:43:26.460 given birth like the same week. So she nursed their babies and they were all ridiculously poor 0.97

00:43:30.960 on the same farm together. And he had this wonderful saying, it didn't matter what color your skin was.

00:43:38.060 The only color that mattered was green. That was the green in your pocket and the green in your

00:43:41.680 fields. That's really the only color that ever mattered to them. Yeah, that's just it.

00:43:46.800 So when people scream racism, I'm like, you don't even know what you're talking about.

00:43:50.580 Yeah, slavery was all about the money. They didn't care what color people were. 0.90

00:43:55.680 No, it just so happened that Africans were a hell of a lot tougher than Irish people when you put them 1.00

00:44:01.100 in the sun. In a very, very sunny environment like the American South or even the Caribbean.

00:44:05.660 Yeah. White people were just dropping like flies. Because the Irish slaves, they burned. That's where 0.99

00:44:10.880 a lot of the redneck term comes from, actually, was put down to slaves. How do you get a redneck? 0.64

00:44:16.520 You're bent over working. Yeah. Oh, geez. Awful. Well, tell us about the work you're doing at

00:44:22.020 Revolutionary Conservative. What does Augustus have going on over there? I know you've been doing some

00:44:26.900 articles. Right. We've got a lot going on there. I'm writing articles for the Federal Reserve Division,

00:44:34.560 education, and immigration. Within immigration, I mainly focus on multiculturalism, because I think

00:44:41.720 that's a lot of nonsense. But we just got the site started. So there's not a whole lot up just yet,

00:44:47.920 but it's building every day and it's getting better and better. And I urge you to go and check it out.

00:44:52.180 Now, we've got some interesting projects coming up. Actually, some people are heading over to Europe

00:44:58.520 to document what's going on over there. And you can go to our website and donate to that. And

00:45:04.000 there's a lot of good reading to be had. There's several authors, not just me. We all are on this

00:45:10.120 sinking ship together and we need to try to do something about it before it's too late.

00:45:13.960 And tell people how they can get a hold of your book. I think it's just on Amazon at this point,

00:45:17.900 right? It is on Amazon. I'm self-published. But you can check it out there. And it's Rachel Summers.

00:45:27.720 There's another Rachel Summers that writes these horrible romance novels. 1.00

00:45:30.700 Yeah, there's a lot of Rachel Summers on Amazon. 0.89

00:45:32.460 I'm not happy about that at all. But I've got the three books that I showed you. And hopefully the

00:45:39.500 fourth one will be out. I'm shooting for the fall equinox.

00:45:42.800 All right. Well, thank you, Rachel, for being a guest. I appreciate it.

00:45:45.620 You're welcome. Thank you for having me. It was good to talk to you.

00:45:48.900 Thanks for listening, everyone. We have many more new and interesting guests lined up. So be sure

00:45:53.120 to check redice.tv for the latest. If you like this show and other shows we produce,

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00:46:03.220 miss our live TV show on Saturdays called Weekend Warrior. It starts at 5 p.m. Eastern Time,

00:46:09.220 11 p.m. Central European Time, available for Red Ice members. That's it for now. So until next time,

00:46:15.400 have a good night.

00:46:16.100 Have a good night.

00:46:45.400 For little,

00:46:46.840 never look at,

00:46:47.800 I mean,

00:46:48.040 you know where You are now.

00:46:50.740 Try your house. 0.99

00:46:51.740 It starts at 5 p.m. Now I want to die.

00:46:54.020 Anyway,

00:46:55.580 we have a good night.

00:46:57.340 Yeah.

00:46:58.300 We'll see you.

00:47:00.340 Wait are you.

00:47:02.880 I wonder what you just need.

00:47:05.860 I wonder what

00:47:07.540 about the being.

00:47:08.500 Oh,

00:47:10.180 I wonder if you're forever.

00:47:10.860 Thank you.

00:47:40.860 Thank you.

00:48:10.860 Thank you.

00:48:40.860 Thank you.

00:49:10.860 Thank you.

Radio 3Fourteen - February 15, 2017

Liberals Are Modern Day Witch Hunters

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