Radio 3Fourteen - August 21, 2013


Marxist Feminist Governments


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 4 minutes

Words per Minute

145.98701

Word Count

9,453

Sentence Count

633

Misogynist Sentences

64

Hate Speech Sentences

32


Summary

In this episode of the Red Ice Radio Network's Red Ice Talk podcast, I speak with the founder of AVoiceformen, Henrik Pongren, about feminism in Eastern Europe and its impact in the post-communist countries.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:00:30.000 This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.
00:01:00.000 We'll also talk about how these extreme feminist values translate into schools, government, and pop culture.
00:01:06.420 Welcome, Lucien. How are you this evening?
00:01:09.560 Hello. Thank you for having me here tonight. Well, I'm doing great.
00:01:14.580 It's a pleasure to have you. Also joining us is Henrik Pongren from Red Ice Radio.
00:01:18.500 I wanted to include a Swede in this conversation.
00:01:21.480 Yeah. Hi, Lana. And hi to you as well, Lucien. Good to talk to you.
00:01:24.900 Hello, Henrik. Great that you're here also.
00:01:27.820 Well, last time I spoke with Paul Elam, the founder of avoiceformen.com,
00:01:31.340 and I received many great comments from men and women after the interview.
00:01:34.700 However, I did receive a few upset, offended comments from women who, by the way,
00:01:40.080 didn't even listen to the interview the entire way.
00:01:42.920 And in the first 10 minutes, we actually spoke about self-empowerment and being responsible for personal choices.
00:01:48.320 So even that is offensive nowadays. What do you think about that?
00:01:51.060 Yes, it is offensive. And I can speak about Europe more than about other areas of the world.
00:01:59.020 But in Europe, in particular, we are cultivating a culture where personal accountability,
00:02:06.560 characterization by merit and individual responsibility are now, how do you say, anathema.
00:02:12.960 They're basically considered now to be extremist ideas.
00:02:16.640 And I think Henrik can confirm that in Sweden is now considered an extremist idea to even imply that men and women are different
00:02:24.600 and that human nature is now something that is, I don't know, a sin.
00:02:30.740 It's a heresy to talk about these kinds of issues, particularly in Scandinavian societies.
00:02:36.240 But now in many other European nations, such as Spain or Italy,
00:02:40.980 Italy now has what I call a gynocentric dictatorship, as a matter of fact.
00:02:45.140 In your bio, you talk about how you've seen a lot of ugly stuff growing up in Eastern Europe.
00:02:51.020 So let's talk about what you've seen growing up since it connects with your work to AVoiceForMen.com.
00:02:56.840 What do you want to know in particular?
00:02:59.760 What you've grown up seeing there in Eastern Europe, because it's much different growing up in America.
00:03:04.680 Yes, it is. Considering the fact that I am not that old.
00:03:08.440 But on the other hand, I live in a family, I grew up in a family where longevity is kind of like the norm, you know.
00:03:16.100 I mean, my great-grandmother lived through the end of the 19th century, the entire 20th century,
00:03:22.800 and the first 14 years of the 21st century.
00:03:25.860 So she got a lot of things to tell me about.
00:03:28.260 The problem that I have with what happened here is that it's now already being repeated through the European Union.
00:03:39.300 For instance, we've seen here in Eastern Europe exactly the steps that are now being taken both in the European Union and North America.
00:03:49.180 That is the nationalization of health care, the increasing involvement of the state in private businesses,
00:03:55.560 and including in private lives, that is regulating how people stay home to raise children and all the other things.
00:04:02.360 These kinds of things were kind of like the norm until the year of 1989 in Eastern Europe.
00:04:09.040 So let's talk about how Eastern Europe went from oppressive Marxist-lenist governments to oppressive progressive, as they say, Marxist-feminist governments.
00:04:19.660 Yeah, I'm laughing because the word progress appears literally everywhere, particularly when the European Union is talking.
00:04:29.060 I mean, if you want to understand how a document of the European Union works, it's basically progress, moving forward, and stuff like that, and nothing else.
00:04:40.780 And the meaning of the word is rendered irrelevant, basically.
00:04:47.700 Basically, Romania was a special case.
00:04:50.800 In most of the other Eastern European nations, when the communism fell, it was something like a soft revolution.
00:04:58.460 That is to say, the public, when they say, okay, enough with this crap, get out of here.
00:05:05.580 And the transition was less harsh.
00:05:10.540 In Poland, for instance, even the communist authorities themselves decided, okay, let's move to a more capitalist society, to a more free society.
00:05:21.460 And they gathered a lot of, let's say, freedom-oriented individuals.
00:05:29.060 Like, I don't remember that guy's name.
00:05:34.420 There was an individual that changed the entire economy and basically took all the measures necessary.
00:05:40.700 And here we are today, Poland is the only country in the European Union that has never seen a recession, for instance.
00:05:47.420 But in Romania, things were entirely different than most of the other nations.
00:05:52.560 In here, violence was necessary to overthrow the Marxist-Leninist tyranny.
00:05:57.960 The Ceausescu government was unwilling to relinquish power.
00:06:04.180 After the fall of the Berlin War, most of the other, in fact, all the other socialist nations, except Romania, opened their borders and started opening themselves to freedom.
00:06:15.160 With one exception, Romania.
00:06:16.940 Romania refused to open their borders, refused to open themselves to anything.
00:06:21.480 And in here, it seemed that communism would last forever.
00:06:25.700 And then it came the moment of December 22nd, 1989, when shit hit the fan.
00:06:33.800 That would be the best description of what happened.
00:06:36.400 There are still a lot of things that are unknown with regards to who started everything.
00:06:43.520 And there are a lot of hypotheses going around the culture.
00:06:48.380 That is to say that there was some foreign involvement.
00:06:51.900 I'm not so sure about that.
00:06:53.660 But what matters is that after a week of violence in many cities of the nation, particularly in the capital and in the extreme west city of Timișoara,
00:07:04.680 eventually the government was thrown away.
00:07:08.820 And Nikolai Ceausescu and his wife Elena Ceausescu were executed in Tergoviste on December 25th, 1989.
00:07:16.180 And after that, unfortunately, however, in power got basically the second line of the Politburo.
00:07:25.440 And because the second line of the Politburo got in power, they were eventually thrown out in 1996, but they came back to power in 2000.
00:07:34.480 However, by the year 2000, that second line of the Politburo had reformed itself to what is now openly called in the European Union, socialism with a human face.
00:07:46.620 Yes, that's the open name, and I'm sure Henry can confirm in Sweden is openly called like that, socialism with a human face.
00:07:54.820 And because in the meantime, a lot of the old Bolsheviks have died and have been replaced by newer generations, the newer generations were more than in the socialist party and in the socialist oriented group of politicians were more than keen to adopt the ideas of the European Union, which are not that far away from the old Soviet Union.
00:08:19.700 And this is the reason why I sometimes call the EU as the EUSSR, because it's basically the same thing.
00:08:25.680 It is organized in the same manner.
00:08:27.700 The decision making process is incredibly similar to the old Soviet Union.
00:08:34.300 And the way it works, the corruption that is automatically built in within the apparatus of the European Union, a lot of things are incredibly similar to what it used to be in the Soviet Union.
00:08:45.180 Yeah, it's the same thing, just a different face.
00:08:47.220 And I also find it's interesting, too, most political feminist voices from the beginning of the movement were Marxists.
00:08:55.020 Yes and no.
00:08:56.600 There is an entire debate about that, of whether feminism originates from Marxism or the other way around, or if they are connected at all.
00:09:06.100 Sure, there were feminist-oriented individuals before Marxism, that's correct.
00:09:11.540 But in the present day, in 2013, militant political feminism is a part, basically, of Marxist militancy.
00:09:25.120 For instance, Lev Davidovich Bronstein, or how he is called in the English language circles, Leon Trotsky, once wrote during the Bolshevik Revolution and soon after, he said that in order to change the conditions of life, we must learn to see them through the eyes of women.
00:09:43.260 And there was also Inessa Armand, who was the first leader of the women's department in the 1917 Russian Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution.
00:09:52.180 She made an observation during one of her speeches saying that if women's liberation is unthinkable without communism, then communism is unthinkable without women's liberation.
00:10:02.120 So, basically, in the 20th century, and particularly in the 21st century, feminism is more than Marxist-oriented, is an intrinsic part of Marxist militancy.
00:10:17.180 However, there are also a lot of other issues that are less known.
00:10:22.920 For instance, in 1974, here in Bucharest, it took place, the World Population Council of the United Nations, and at that time, there was a Brazilian doctor, for instance, saying that he has an idea of how to develop a male contraceptive pill.
00:10:43.700 And he requested funding from the United Nations to do that, and the most relevant opposition to this idea basically came from Marxist-feminist women who shouted no male pill throughout the conference, and eventually the Brazilian doctor was denied funding.
00:11:08.060 And we can see that in the last 40 years, particularly in this area of the world, this kind of anti-male policies are usually coming from Marxist-oriented politicians.
00:11:25.400 Well, I'm amazing that male lawmakers are also voting in favor of this too, though, right?
00:11:31.280 Mm-hmm.
00:11:32.780 It's not really amazing once you get to understand human nature, however.
00:11:36.560 Because a friend of mine was saying that, you know, there are these, how do you call them, these crooks in human nature.
00:11:45.620 The human population is basically accustomed, I have no idea if it's biological or learned, a learned behavior, but it is there.
00:11:55.820 It is accustomed to basically protect women.
00:11:59.080 Women first and the fuck with everyone else.
00:12:01.280 Mm-hmm.
00:12:01.880 It's just how things work.
00:12:03.640 And I'm pretty sure that this will not go away anytime soon.
00:12:09.380 Well, it's funny because just the other day I was telling Henrik too, I was watching a documentary about beehives and insects and ant colonies.
00:12:16.600 And it's all, I mean, it's a great metaphor for Marxism or collectivism, but it's built mostly by the large population of sterile females.
00:12:23.780 Yeah, they have a few male drone workers, but everything is to support the queen bee who lays the eggs.
00:12:29.860 Mm-hmm.
00:12:30.260 And you kind of see that happening in a collectivist society, right?
00:12:33.520 It's all about the children.
00:12:34.880 It's all about the women.
00:12:35.980 It's all about the health care for the children, right?
00:12:38.180 Yes, well, this thing about it's all about the children has, it also has a socialist flavor, but a national socialist one.
00:12:48.060 You know, Hitler himself was the one who said that if you can convince the overwhelming majority of the population that the state has the best interests of the children in mind,
00:12:57.780 you can literally do anything and the population will applaud.
00:13:02.700 And in the case of national socialist dictatorship, it kind of worked.
00:13:07.880 And unfortunately, it's still working.
00:13:10.640 We see, and I've recently read about a bad, not a bad one, but rather a sad story from Sweden where the state literally kidnapped the children of a family
00:13:25.000 because that family said, we're going to homeschool the child.
00:13:28.300 Henrik has interviewed that couple.
00:13:29.400 Yeah, we had Kisti Johansson with us and talked about the abduction of their child, Dominik Johansson, by Swedish Social Services.
00:13:35.440 It's one of these horrible cases where they have fallen between the cracks.
00:13:39.040 It was just at the time when they made it illegal to homeschool in Sweden.
00:13:42.900 And despite this, they had gotten the approval by one end of the government, but the local city or county government did not approve of it.
00:13:49.180 And they ended up stealing their child from them when they were attempting to leave the country, pretty much.
00:13:53.960 And this is yet to be resolved.
00:13:56.320 This case is still going.
00:13:58.860 These are the things that Europe is quite accustomed to, this kind of egregious level of statism.
00:14:05.220 And it's not only Sweden.
00:14:06.420 Now, the German government, for instance, is petitioning the United States government to extradite a couple of Germans with their kids that are now living in Texas, if I'm not mistaken,
00:14:18.600 because they fled Germany for the simple reason that the state was forcing them to put the kids through sex ed courses and other things that the parents disagreed.
00:14:30.600 And they said, the hell with it, and we're going to move to the United States.
00:14:34.000 And now the German government is petitioning the U.S. government to extradite them back.
00:14:38.100 And it's likely that the United States government will say yes.
00:14:41.680 It's yet to be resolved, but I have little doubt that the United States will say no.
00:14:48.040 Now, Lucien, let me ask you this.
00:14:49.180 Do you believe that the welfare of the children and what, you know, the taking care of the children is the primary sentiment?
00:14:55.700 Or is that just an excuse so that they can use the kids for political purposes?
00:15:01.460 There is a little bit of both.
00:15:03.240 Yes, there is a true sentiment in it.
00:15:05.740 Again, because of these crooks in human nature that most of individuals, most of human individuals have, that is to protect women at all costs.
00:15:15.460 So there is a genuine sentiment in this.
00:15:19.280 But the ideologues that usually run the business of a state, of a particular state, are, of course, using it to advance political goals.
00:15:28.460 Yes.
00:15:29.080 So it's a little bit of both.
00:15:31.280 And how do we see feminist version of equality translating into European schools?
00:15:36.600 Oh, boy.
00:15:38.400 An entire library could be written about this.
00:15:40.820 First of all, you have to understand that at least now the European Union still doesn't have the authority to impose this in the entire European Union upon all the 28 unfortunate nations that are part of this club.
00:15:59.240 However, there are a lot of countries that have already taken steps to implement these kinds of things.
00:16:06.340 Because Croatia and Sweden are basically the leaders in this progress thing.
00:16:14.740 But Italy, Spain, the United Kingdom, Norway, even though Norway is not part of the EU, but still are also not far off behind.
00:16:24.120 What I found the most egregious part in this kind of business was a case in Croatia where there are basically feminist organizations invited into the schools to preach to 10-year-olds to 8-year-olds that all men are rapists.
00:16:42.420 And that the male sexuality is inherently oppressive and stuff like that that are basically from the manual of militant feminism.
00:16:55.860 And Sweden also put out, what is it, Scum, the Scum video, which is a radical feminist manifesto.
00:17:01.060 Yes, the Society for Cutting Up Men, yes.
00:17:02.960 And it's amazing because Sweden is so anti-gun and yet in the video they're shooting a guy, no problem, dancing around happy.
00:17:08.980 I would argue that Sweden is not necessarily anti-gun in itself as Romania is, for instance.
00:17:16.160 We have the toughest laws regarding guns in the world.
00:17:19.260 Even China is freer in this regard.
00:17:21.280 Really?
00:17:21.900 Really, yes.
00:17:23.440 So I wouldn't say that Sweden is necessarily anti-gun, but rather anti-people that we don't like to own gun.
00:17:31.300 That is, all the people that are not into this progress business.
00:17:35.520 Because in Sweden, a hunter, for instance, can still get licensing permits for a lethal gun and things like that.
00:17:43.920 Sure.
00:17:44.120 But if that hunter proves to be, let's say, an MRA or a non-leftist, well, that permit can be easily suspended.
00:17:55.300 That didn't happen in recent years.
00:17:58.540 And I'm pretty sure it…
00:17:59.620 Plus, Sweden makes arms too.
00:18:01.520 They make them and sell them.
00:18:02.660 Yeah, but they prefer to sell them in third world nations, also for advancing progress.
00:18:11.580 Now, I've seen two or three Swedish feminists now preaching in Kenya, in the Kenyan parliament,
00:18:20.320 where they eventually passed a law in which it said that if a man and a woman cohabitate more than three months,
00:18:27.100 the man should be held liable for vagina money and things like that.
00:18:34.360 Was that the wording they used?
00:18:36.140 No, they used alimony, but I always use vagina money for the simple reason that's exactly what it is.
00:18:43.820 I mean, except the United States, I don't know any case outside of the United States where a woman pays alimony.
00:18:50.200 It just doesn't happen.
00:18:51.460 So, what are the long-term goals of these Marxist feminists?
00:18:54.820 What are they after?
00:18:57.280 Well, that's a tough question because there are…
00:19:01.420 One can read Das Kapital and the work of Engels, particularly the work regarding family and property.
00:19:11.280 There was a book written by Friedrich Engels about family and property.
00:19:22.220 I can't remember its name.
00:19:23.640 Screw it.
00:19:24.860 So, if one reads the work of Engels regarding family and property and one reads Das Kapital,
00:19:30.320 one can get an idea about what they're after.
00:19:33.080 However, we have to understand that this kind of Marxism that we see today in the European Union
00:19:37.840 is, in many respects, a little bit different than the original Marxist-Leninist flavor that ruled over Eastern Europe.
00:19:46.380 It was coined by a few Marxist dissenters, starting with Antonio Gramsci and Georgi Lukács,
00:19:53.320 and then in the United States, Herbert Marcuse.
00:19:55.800 This is the reason why you will hear some people referring to this as cultural Marxism
00:20:01.360 because it's not necessarily about economics, but it's about the entire culture to be revolutionized
00:20:09.520 as they use the terminology.
00:20:13.160 So, it's hard for one to make a definite assertion as to what they are about.
00:20:18.140 I mean, what is the end game?
00:20:20.600 One can guess and can make an educated guess.
00:20:23.900 My educated guess would be that the end goal would be definitely to crash the society
00:20:32.440 and crash capitalism because that's the first point in any communist manifesto that respects itself.
00:20:39.720 If we go back to Sweden again, I wanted to ask you specifically about the case of Julian Assange
00:20:45.360 so we can get a flavor of what happened there and what happened to him
00:20:49.600 with rape allegations made against him and everything else.
00:20:53.020 He described Sweden as the Saudi Arabia of feminism.
00:20:57.600 Others call it state feminism.
00:20:59.300 But can you talk about Assange and how you see that whole situation?
00:21:03.120 Well, I always had mixed feelings about this individual because there are a lot of things that are unknown.
00:21:12.480 What I do know for sure is that the accusations against Julian Assange were dropped
00:21:19.720 and it was more than obvious to most of the prosecutors that there was nothing to prosecute.
00:21:26.520 And then suddenly the state decided to turn around and, okay, let's still do it just because potato.
00:21:34.340 Now, one can speculate that there was some pressure from the U.S. government
00:21:39.560 or other kinds of pressures exerted on the Swedish prosecutors.
00:21:44.200 I don't know.
00:21:44.920 I don't have evidence to support these kinds of claims.
00:21:47.880 But what it is sure is that the case has been used to increase the numbers of alleged rapes happening in Sweden
00:21:58.660 and it is still being used as a weapon in debates as in to say,
00:22:05.660 look, Sweden is still not in progress enough.
00:22:08.300 Look, we still haven't prosecuted a legitimate case of rape and things like that.
00:22:13.040 So in these kinds of respects, the feminists have definitely used this case in particular
00:22:19.640 because it was high profile.
00:22:22.320 Just like they used the case with Dominique Strauss-Kahn, for instance, the former head of the IMF.
00:22:28.200 I mean, in that case, I'm not a very good fan of the IMF myself.
00:22:33.020 However, to think that an old guy that was 40 centimeters shorter than the big woman that he allegedly attacked
00:22:43.700 and to think that he attacked her that bad and that all of that story that was obviously made up happened,
00:22:52.420 it's just ludicrous.
00:22:54.540 And of course, he was obviously found not guilty at the end of the day,
00:22:58.800 but his political career was entirely destroyed and solely because of an allegation of rape.
00:23:05.220 And this is an issue.
00:23:08.500 The false allegations of rape are creating an enormous damage to individual men and to society at large.
00:23:15.360 Does it show how this can be used for politicians or others for blackmail purposes?
00:23:20.440 You know, how these false accusations can be used to end people's careers, etc.?
00:23:25.940 Yes, they can be used and they have been used.
00:23:30.360 The Dominique Strauss-Kahn case is the most obvious instance of that happening.
00:23:36.800 It has happened in lower levels, but I guess the DSK case is the most high profile
00:23:42.540 where a false allegation was used to terminate someone's career.
00:23:46.760 Why do you think that people automatically side against the accused?
00:23:50.780 This seems to happen by default, right?
00:23:54.040 That's why it's such a powerful tool to take someone out.
00:23:58.320 Yes, people tend to side automatically with the accuser, regardless of evidence.
00:24:04.680 I already said that there are these crooks in human nature where we tend to favor women.
00:24:10.720 We tend to believe women, especially when they claim harm has been done to them.
00:24:18.280 And on top of these crooks in human nature, there is the feminist culture that always says us
00:24:28.540 that all men are rapists and that tells us that women are oppressed in Europe and North America.
00:24:34.760 Of course, they're not, but the truth is something that's not really necessary in modern-day political debates.
00:24:43.380 But basically, it's human nature plus feminist culture.
00:24:46.720 Well, soon these men-hating feminists will say that men's sexual desire is unnatural
00:24:51.360 and should be treated by psychiatrists.
00:24:53.160 Well, it doesn't surprise me at all that feminist ideologues rally against human nature
00:25:03.160 because, again, their Marxist allegiance commands them to do that.
00:25:09.620 Even the classical Marxist-Leninist one was also raging against human nature
00:25:15.180 and were saying that it is unnatural for a highly qualified person to take the job of a university professor.
00:25:23.160 So they introduced the concept of healthy origin, for instance,
00:25:27.140 which basically meant that as long as you are an illiterate peasant,
00:25:32.020 you get more chance of being a university professor
00:25:35.420 than an individual that has studied throughout his or her own life.
00:25:40.280 Well, that's fair.
00:25:41.660 Yeah, exactly.
00:25:42.300 Yeah, this kind of fairness, I mean, we will have enough fairness that we can stomach
00:25:49.220 and then we'll have some more, whether we like it or not.
00:25:53.360 Yeah, you also talked about in an article about the new feminist chastity,
00:25:58.680 the new puritism and the image bans that are going on.
00:26:01.940 So basically any imagery of like a sexy woman on a champagne bottle or something
00:26:07.320 that there's feminists complaining about it and wanting it banned.
00:26:10.220 So are they in favor of the burqa then, I guess?
00:26:13.100 I mean, what do they want?
00:26:14.960 Because no one's forcing that model to take that photo.
00:26:17.560 She's doing it because she wants to do it, right?
00:26:19.740 Of course, of course.
00:26:20.960 Now, since you brought the burqa, then it makes the comparison with Saudi Arabia feminism even more appropriate.
00:26:28.000 Yeah, in that article I translated an intervention of a Danish anthropologist against the Swedish feminist culture.
00:26:38.560 And he brought up that example.
00:26:40.620 I merely translated it.
00:26:42.200 Yes, there is this kind of thing.
00:26:46.600 And the Swedish feminists in particular have a habit of interfering into someone else's business.
00:26:52.440 That whole scandal started because the Danish television made a show.
00:26:58.660 It wasn't quite a great show.
00:27:03.080 But still, it was a show that was appreciated by a significant number of people
00:27:06.980 in which basically two men were staying there and were watching at a woman
00:27:11.540 and then making talks about her and then about the state of men in society and things like that.
00:27:19.100 The show wasn't...
00:27:20.080 I mean, I'm not a great fan of that show.
00:27:22.160 I watched a couple of episodes.
00:27:23.360 It's not necessarily a great show, but that doesn't mean that Swedish feminists get the right to chastise an entire country
00:27:32.180 for daring to make that objectifying show.
00:27:35.680 I mean, really, those people are paid to do that and people are watching and paying to see that.
00:27:41.200 So what's your problem?
00:27:43.920 Yeah, I guess their objection was that because everything is government subsidized, right?
00:27:47.920 They take people's money and pay for the channel.
00:27:50.160 So it must represent everybody's contradictory opinions.
00:27:53.360 I don't remember entirely what was the first line of the Swedish feminists when they object to that.
00:27:59.980 I know only the scandal between Dan and Dennis Nermark, the Danish anthropologist that had that dialogue
00:28:07.460 that was surprisingly published in Verdensgang in Sweden, which is a surprise
00:28:12.100 because you rarely see something in Verdensgang that goes against the feminist narrative.
00:28:18.220 That's in Norway, though, isn't it?
00:28:20.280 There is also a newspaper in Swedish that's called Verdensgang.
00:28:28.020 Well, there you go.
00:28:28.500 Then you know more about Sweden than I do.
00:28:31.520 Yeah.
00:28:32.100 And it shows how much I pay attention to the mainstream media as well, by the way.
00:28:35.540 Anyway, go ahead.
00:28:36.060 And their objection was basically that that particular show objectifies women.
00:28:42.440 That was the main objection.
00:28:44.480 What they failed to realize is that those women that were allegedly objectified
00:28:49.680 were paid huge amounts of money to be part of that show.
00:28:54.280 And the ratings of that show were fairly decent.
00:28:57.200 And at the end of the day, the TV station won a lot more money than it powered in from that show.
00:29:04.120 So it was a successful show.
00:29:05.580 Now, you can have a problem with it, fine.
00:29:09.880 But from that and to start chastising people for watching it is a whole different thing.
00:29:16.620 And one more thing, even if it was government subsidized,
00:29:19.980 it was subsidized by the government of Denmark, not the government of Sweden.
00:29:24.320 So again, it's not the Swedish feminist business what the Danes do in their own country.
00:29:30.420 But Marxism is internationalism, though.
00:29:32.900 So I guess they feel that they are in the right, the proper context.
00:29:37.340 Yes.
00:29:37.960 And this is basically the main difference between communism and Nazism,
00:29:43.100 which is basically national socialism.
00:29:45.240 Communism is international socialism.
00:29:47.880 That's the very thin line between them.
00:29:51.340 They're not opposite ideologies.
00:29:53.760 They're rather complementary.
00:29:55.220 And because international socialism won after the victory of USSR in the World War II,
00:30:02.940 now we're all left with international socialism, particularly in Europe.
00:30:06.800 Yes.
00:30:07.580 It's very annoying.
00:30:08.200 These commies, they run around and they don't like something.
00:30:10.460 They want to ban it all the time.
00:30:12.020 They're just they're complete wimps.
00:30:13.520 That's why they don't want a free enterprise.
00:30:14.820 They really can't handle the competition or handle any kind of variety.
00:30:18.860 They don't know how to keep their mouth shut and just let other people have what they want to have.
00:30:22.800 I have an example on that in terms of Sweden.
00:30:25.160 It's kind of a minor story, but it's very symbolically significant.
00:30:28.740 It was when a number of women joined the military in Sweden.
00:30:31.460 And we had this one insignia with a lion on it that had a, you know, a pair of balls on it.
00:30:36.820 And I remember that they petitioned and lobbied for that to get basically,
00:30:39.760 well, the basic of the lion, the symbol of the lion, to get castrated because it was offensive.
00:30:44.680 Because it's a weapon.
00:30:45.800 It had two, you know, balls hanging off of it.
00:30:47.860 So just, I mean, what do you say about that?
00:30:49.760 Well, the extreme laughter is my usual comment when I read the story from Sweden.
00:30:59.500 And I don't want people to take this the wrong way.
00:31:03.820 But seriously, I mean, the military is about one thing.
00:31:09.080 It's not about the image from some uniform or whatever.
00:31:13.180 You go there to defend your country.
00:31:16.920 You don't go there to play victim and play offensive.
00:31:21.080 I mean, if you can't stand a lion with some balls, then how will you be able to deal with the issues in actual wars?
00:31:30.360 Sure, yeah.
00:31:31.540 And sorry, Lana, I want to make a comment about that thing you said that these commies are annoying.
00:31:37.200 Well, we have to understand that most of the people who would have referred themselves as liberal or left-wing
00:31:45.800 now prefer the term progressive, I guess, because it sounds more progressive.
00:31:50.340 But we need to understand the difference between liberals, lefties, and progressives.
00:31:57.180 I mean, I like liberals.
00:31:58.660 And even lefties are okay if they're the right sort of lefty.
00:32:02.300 But progressives are the one that gives the creeps, first of all, because progressive sounds like a good word.
00:32:09.640 But in reality, it means moving gradually, progressively, towards an ever more regulated, controlled, and less free society
00:32:16.660 where group identity trumps all and every casual remark.
00:32:20.820 And it's a potential hate crime.
00:32:23.220 These kinds of hate crimes are quite popular now in Europe.
00:32:27.120 It has become a hate crime to say that men and women are different.
00:32:30.020 It has become a hate crime to say that the gender pay gap is a myth.
00:32:33.700 It has become a hate crime to say a lot of common sense, factual reality things.
00:32:39.940 Yeah, I've heard feminists use the term, no, it's positive discrimination.
00:32:45.060 But that doesn't make it any less discrimination, isn't it?
00:32:48.140 What do you think if this follows through here, if they continue to use the strategy that they use?
00:32:54.100 Where will this lead up?
00:32:55.640 Where will this end up?
00:32:56.980 Well, I can hope.
00:32:59.900 And judging from the example of the Soviet Union, I think it will eventually lead up to a very violent and unpleasant crash of the European Union
00:33:10.520 and all the 28 unfortunate nations that are within it.
00:33:13.720 And after that, probably, unfortunately, some other ideologues will then take over and 50 years from now we'll have another European Union
00:33:26.760 because human beings learn only one thing from history.
00:33:30.600 That is, that human beings learn absolutely nothing from history.
00:33:33.520 And I pretty much think that, I mean, the European Union in its current state and with this bad, this wrong construction of the euro currency cannot hold any time longer.
00:33:49.180 Probably by 2025, there will be no European Union.
00:33:53.140 And just like the collapse of the Soviet Union, it will leave us with immense ethnic problems and economic problems that will last for a while.
00:34:02.880 And after the things will get calmer, probably, again, some other ideologues will build just another union.
00:34:08.260 Well, this is when I've heard women say, well, that's because we need women in charge, women presidents and women politicians.
00:34:14.860 But to me, a politician is a lying politician, no matter what sex they are.
00:34:19.760 Well, most of the politicians, yes, they are liars.
00:34:24.620 I have to agree with that.
00:34:27.460 Now, I think that politics, I mean, being elected into leadership positions is just like any other competition.
00:34:35.500 It's just like being elected the CEO of a company or being elected anywhere in a private enterprise.
00:34:42.980 And as long as you can get people to vote you, you can get in there.
00:34:46.400 So if women don't get enough votes, well, if we are to think in collectivist terms, it's first of all women's fault.
00:34:54.680 I mean, women control the vote collectively because there are more women voters than men voters.
00:34:59.300 So if women were so concerned about the lack of women in leadership positions in the state, well, that could be easily solved.
00:35:09.480 But it's not happening.
00:35:10.620 And why is that not happening?
00:35:12.200 Because the human nature, again, which is something that we constantly deny here in Europe,
00:35:18.140 it's not in the human nature for most women to want to get into politics.
00:35:23.360 And those that do want usually end up in leadership positions, those that truly want that.
00:35:29.820 But it's normal when you have 40%, let's say, of men interested in politics and 5% of women interested in politics,
00:35:37.840 it's normal to have more men than women in politics.
00:35:41.420 It's just the way it is.
00:35:43.080 I also see a lot of the female politicians that do get into politics, they're very masculine in their approach.
00:35:48.880 I mean, is that helping them any?
00:35:51.020 I don't know.
00:35:51.680 I sincerely don't know.
00:35:54.120 For instance, I was a very good fan of Margaret Thatcher.
00:35:59.840 But I wouldn't think that Margaret Thatcher was necessarily masculine.
00:36:04.900 But frankly, I don't know.
00:36:08.100 I don't know if that's helping or not.
00:36:10.420 What I do know is that usually, or it used to be, not anymore now, but usually in politics,
00:36:18.820 it usually ends up being the most popular politician or the most qualified individual for the job.
00:36:25.900 And Margaret Thatcher got there without any quotas and without any affirmative action or positive discrimination.
00:36:32.500 Angela Merkel is now basically dictating in most of the European nations, and she got there without any quotas and without any positive discrimination.
00:36:41.220 South Korea is led by a female leader that got there without any kind of quotas and any kind of positive discrimination.
00:36:48.480 So I would say that it's more about a question of really wanting to be there than a question of discrimination.
00:36:55.880 Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:36:57.560 I wanted to know how you came across the information.
00:36:59.700 You were talking about Sweden, how basically a man is literally a second-class citizen under the law in regards to violence, custody of children,
00:37:06.500 even body searches, even foreign men married to a Swedish woman testifying in court.
00:37:12.260 It's always the woman first and the man second.
00:37:15.340 So how did you come across that information?
00:37:17.180 Well, I started reading the law.
00:37:22.040 Basically, it's not something that is hidden.
00:37:25.440 It's not something like nobody knows that it's happening.
00:37:29.860 It's out there.
00:37:30.800 All you have to do is read the Swedish laws and apply common sense to them.
00:37:36.780 And you can't get to any other conclusion than that the Swedish men are basically second-class citizens.
00:37:43.980 You just have to read the law.
00:37:45.580 Of course, I had some inspiration from some great Swedish bloggers such as Daddy Sverige, for instance.
00:37:53.780 But basically, I started reading the law and looked for – I mean, Sweden claims to be an egalitarian heaven.
00:38:02.660 So if that's the truth, of course it's not.
00:38:06.100 But if that were to be true, then you wouldn't find the word man or kvinner, men or women, in the law.
00:38:14.240 You would only find pashun, person.
00:38:16.940 So I started looking for a man or kvinner in the law and started reading it.
00:38:22.140 And then I got the obvious conclusion that Sweden is definitely not an egalitarian paradise.
00:38:28.420 Well, exactly.
00:38:30.060 My point has been to try to highlight the shadow side that is very much unseen to the rest of the world because the media never talks about it.
00:38:37.060 It's tremendously one-sided.
00:38:39.200 There are so many double standards in Sweden, and now you get an oppression of a different kind.
00:38:44.320 But will these things ever be highlighted?
00:38:46.240 I mean, especially when we have things like the Millennium series by Stieg Larsson that people are obsessed with, though they have never been to the country or been visited in any of this series.
00:38:57.040 It only shows men's violence against women.
00:38:59.300 And this is how some people believe it's like in Sweden.
00:39:01.420 Very clever.
00:39:02.200 It's a complete reversal of what actually is going on right now.
00:39:05.960 Yeah, I wasn't surprised that the novel Man Somhattak Vinna was made in Sweden.
00:39:10.880 And I wasn't surprised that the movie, the highly successful movie translated in English, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, was also made in Sweden.
00:39:19.840 Yeah, apparently the organization called Roksrik, Sorganisarhune for Kvinner Roksiajerisverige, basically the national organization for women in Sweden, apparently they won the cultural war out there in Sweden.
00:39:33.940 I mean, if you watch documentaries such as Jönskriget or the Swedish gender war, you get the idea that they basically won the cultural war and the men in there are basically moving out.
00:39:47.360 I was reading in the local, the English language newspaper for news in Sweden and in many other countries,
00:39:56.020 they were saying that more people emigrated from Sweden than immigrated.
00:40:02.660 And a lot of the comments were asking, well, how many men were between those that permanently emigrated from Sweden?
00:40:09.040 And I would guess that most of the people that are permanently leaving Sweden are men, Swedish men.
00:40:16.340 Yeah, and actually a lot of the Swedish men are marrying foreign women because they don't want to be with the Swedish women anymore just because they're such hardcore feminists.
00:40:24.420 Yeah, I don't want to sound bad, but who would want to marry a Swedish woman?
00:40:28.920 I mean, really, I mean, seriously.
00:40:31.460 I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of decent Swedish women out there, but the culture that is now in place in Sweden is so hostile to men that it seems like a better solution to just leave Sweden
00:40:48.880 and move either to Denmark, which is quite closely, culturally close to Sweden, or to move completely outside of Europe.
00:40:58.800 Yeah, it's too far gone at this point.
00:41:00.520 Well, that documentary you mentioned, the gender war, Sjöns Krið, that is an amazing documentary.
00:41:05.820 Yes, it is.
00:41:06.440 It shows the flip side of this.
00:41:07.920 And I wish everyone listening to take a look at that one.
00:41:09.940 We had it linked up on the website some time ago.
00:41:12.060 The problem here then, as well, is that you have a very sly level of propaganda and education taking place in Sweden, not only for young women, but also for young men.
00:41:20.820 And they are taught to look down on themselves and their behavior is violent by default.
00:41:25.640 And there is a number of things that are psychologically damaging to a lot of the younger generations.
00:41:31.500 So in my view, this is ultimately about propaganda and education.
00:41:35.520 So how do you combat something like this?
00:41:37.800 Well, the best way to combat it is just like Evin Ubar did with her documentary, Sjöns Krið.
00:41:45.780 Basically, I mean, she came from Turkmenistan, for crying out loud, a highly oppressive Soviet republic.
00:41:52.560 I mean, they still refer themselves as the Soviet Republic of Turkmenistan, even though the Soviet Union no longer exists.
00:41:58.960 I mean, she emigrated from there to Sweden, which she perceived to be a free nation, and got there and said,
00:42:05.220 hold on, something doesn't add up here.
00:42:07.800 And she offered a very neutral, or in some way neutral, but rather a perspective of an outsider who has already seen how state repression looks like,
00:42:19.280 and basically discovered pretty much the same thing.
00:42:22.260 As for the quote-unquote education, well, every single totalitarian regime has tried to take over the education.
00:42:30.300 And once it took over the education, things went smoothly in less than two decades.
00:42:36.680 It happened literally everywhere where a totalitarian regime lasted more than 10 years.
00:42:42.280 So, I think this is the same thing happening in Sweden as well.
00:42:49.500 And the problem is that, unlike other European nations, in Sweden, literally opposing points are banned.
00:42:57.920 I mean, I was reading about that thing that they call Sjönskraft Perspektiv,
00:43:03.860 or about the gender power perspective, something like that would be the translation in English.
00:43:11.780 And basically Sjönskraft Perspektiv was considered to be the Bible of the Uppsala University in Sweden.
00:43:19.220 And anyone that dared to oppose that, be it professor or student, was either fired, if it was a professor,
00:43:27.340 or excommunicated, if it was a student, was expelled.
00:43:33.880 So, in this regard, and this is the same thing happening in primary education, or in lower levels of education in Sweden.
00:43:41.020 I was reading about a man that is now suing the Swedish state at the European Court of Human Rights.
00:43:47.680 I mean, he was basically thrown away and put to jail because he dared to come to a school and said,
00:43:54.180 look, what you're learning in sex ed is not entirely accurate.
00:43:59.880 Here's a brochure with a little more accurate information.
00:44:04.120 That's all he did.
00:44:05.300 And he was thrown away in jail for hate speech.
00:44:08.780 Yeah, this is fascism, folks.
00:44:11.660 Yeah, and now in the preschool, they're trying to ban, we've talked about this on several shows before,
00:44:16.020 certain terms that are him and her, right?
00:44:19.440 That's what they're doing.
00:44:21.020 Yeah, the...
00:44:22.160 Genderless names.
00:44:23.440 No, not genderless names, but genderless pronoun.
00:44:27.000 Yeah, the word hen.
00:44:28.480 Now, that's an unnatural engineering of the Swedish language.
00:44:32.960 I mean, Henry can confirm because he also speaks Swedish.
00:44:35.380 Except Hungarian, no other European language has gender-neutral pronoun.
00:44:42.180 And this is for a reason because it evolved in that manner.
00:44:46.620 And trying to forcibly engineer the language, and Swedish language is a very old language,
00:44:52.320 so it's deeply rooted into the culture, I don't think it will work on the long term.
00:44:58.200 But on the short term, it will confuse the little boys and girls that are subjected to this kind of crap, yes.
00:45:05.960 What do you think about feminists are constantly pushing the idea that our inherent male and female characteristics are stereotypes?
00:45:11.920 What are your thoughts on that?
00:45:13.520 Well, I would say, first of all, that stereotypes exist there for a reason.
00:45:17.800 That is to say that most of the stereotypes are based on some seed of truth.
00:45:23.440 So even if the notion of inherent male and female traits would be stereotypes, that still doesn't prove anything.
00:45:31.680 I mean, yeah, okay, it is a stereotype.
00:45:33.740 So what?
00:45:34.940 That doesn't make it necessarily false or true.
00:45:37.800 Yeah.
00:45:37.980 I mean, there is a stereotype that Russian folks, when they speak English, they speak with a Russian accent.
00:45:47.180 That's true.
00:45:48.360 This is a stereotype, but that doesn't make it any less true, you know?
00:45:53.160 So the same thing happens with these kinds of, quote-unquote, stereotypes.
00:45:57.760 Yes, even if you label a stereotype the fact that usually most men are stronger physically than most women,
00:46:05.400 yes, it is a stereotype, but that doesn't make it any less true.
00:46:08.840 And there was a YouTube video sometime where they took the physically strongest woman on Earth
00:46:15.960 who earned some Skandenberg championships and put her to go against random dudes
00:46:24.160 that the reporters found on a block somewhere in the United States.
00:46:28.980 And she had four Skandenberg matches with the four dudes, and she lost all four of them.
00:46:35.400 And none of those dudes had any training in Skandenberg or anything else.
00:46:39.420 Well, I find that offensive.
00:46:42.740 It's just the way it is.
00:46:44.680 Well, what I see here as the problem is the homogenization of the genders.
00:46:50.780 That's what's going on.
00:46:51.940 While what we should be doing is to look at the differences of what makes men and women different.
00:46:58.420 Yeah, it's about valuing the gender differences, right?
00:47:00.800 Exactly, and also see that there's tremendous beneficial aspects to the differences.
00:47:05.240 But what is happening in society for political reasons, a conspiracy, as I see it,
00:47:10.560 is to squash and eliminate the differences.
00:47:13.080 But if they were encouraged and said, I think it would lead to a stronger mankind,
00:47:16.900 that together these different roles that we do fulfill and the different aspects of how we are different,
00:47:22.300 we would become much stronger.
00:47:24.220 It would be a true diversity, in other words.
00:47:26.480 Yes, this is a point I usually make in my radio show, The Voice of Europe.
00:47:32.660 That is, men and women are not necessarily opposite sexes, but rather complementary sexes.
00:47:38.880 And I don't see anything wrong in admitting the fact that men and women are inherently different.
00:47:45.580 It's just the way it is.
00:47:46.720 It doesn't mean it's a bad thing or a good thing.
00:47:48.620 It depends on the individual, if the individual transforms this into a bad or a good thing.
00:47:54.680 But essentially, it's not a bad thing or a good thing.
00:47:57.420 It's just the way it is.
00:47:59.000 And making peace with factual reality would seem to me like an example of maturity.
00:48:05.360 So, and I think Paul Ilham made this point once that feminism is basically about infantilizing women.
00:48:13.360 I mean, let's just not make peace with factual reality.
00:48:16.140 Let's just push for something that doesn't exist and has never existed.
00:48:20.440 Going back to the gender war, one more question on that.
00:48:22.820 How do you see that it's being used, if it's for political reasons or purposes of reforming society, controlling people?
00:48:29.680 I mean, I see that it's about giving people less freedom, taking it away.
00:48:33.120 But on the surface, on the official level, we are told that this is about giving people and women more freedom.
00:48:37.920 And that is why I think some people have difficulty struggling with these opinions.
00:48:41.440 But the gender war, how are they using this?
00:48:45.900 That's my question.
00:48:46.780 Kind of like in America, there's books about the CIA using feminism to destabilize society as part of another agenda.
00:48:52.860 Yeah, well, I think it's back to an old Latin dictum, divide et impera, divide and conquer.
00:49:03.540 And dividing the society along the sex lines, because I refuse to use the word gender.
00:49:10.660 Gender is an ideological construct.
00:49:12.500 And I refuse to use that word.
00:49:16.680 Dividing the society along sex lines apparently seems to be a more effective way to control the society than to divide the society along racial lines or ethnical lines or what have you.
00:49:31.480 Wow.
00:49:31.720 So it's even more powerful because gender is their closest affiliation.
00:49:35.420 Yes, because, you know, once you divide people along the sex lines, you can always have in place tools to control the children and control the family.
00:49:47.740 We have to remember that in the United Kingdom, for instance, they have those secret family courts.
00:49:52.920 Nobody knows what's happening in there.
00:49:54.700 All we know is that the overwhelming majority of men who want some custody of their children, they lose it.
00:50:01.400 That's all we know.
00:50:03.200 But nobody really knows what's happening in there because the family court system in the United Kingdom is hidden, is secret, is by law, nobody can question.
00:50:15.280 And the system of family courts in the UK can even issue an order for individuals to shut up about it.
00:50:26.140 And if you don't shut up about it, you can go to jail.
00:50:28.780 It's happening.
00:50:31.400 What are some other big feminist lies that female politicians are spewing out into Europe right now?
00:50:36.960 Well, for instance, there was recently a feminist lie in the United Kingdom Parliament where they said that female prisoners are treated badly in prison and therefore the government should do something and treat them even better for the simple reason that they are female.
00:50:56.360 But those politicians failed to realize that even if you account for the same crime, the same record and so on and so forth, there is still a 40 percent disparity in sentencing between men and women.
00:51:13.640 I mean, if I go into a store and steal something and then if you go to do the same thing, there is a huge chance that you will not serve prison at all whilst the book will be thrown at me.
00:51:26.560 It's just the way.
00:51:27.560 It's just the way it is.
00:51:28.400 And if the state would be really concerned about fairness, it would look on these kinds of issues.
00:51:38.720 But again, the equality under the law and individual freedom are not amongst the high concerns of politicians in Europe today.
00:51:48.840 Yeah.
00:51:49.840 So is it too far gone?
00:51:51.840 Yeah.
00:51:52.840 Well, I wouldn't say necessarily it's too far gone, but it is bound to become too far gone in the next years.
00:52:00.840 I mean, the recession is hitting.
00:52:02.840 There is also the politically incorrect thing about immigration.
00:52:09.840 I mean, now, since all nations are forced to have totally open doors to anyone, this creates a lot of friction within European societies.
00:52:21.840 And I say European societies because unlike the European Union, I acknowledge that the 28 unfortunate nations that are part of this club are not the same.
00:52:31.840 The Eurocrats would like to thank you that they are pretty much the same.
00:52:35.840 No, they're not.
00:52:36.840 Italy and Finland will never be the same.
00:52:38.840 No way.
00:52:39.840 It's just not the way it is.
00:52:41.840 On the border of Germany and France, they are very different countries.
00:52:45.840 They've been fighting, well, fighting for hundreds and hundreds of years, if not even thousands.
00:52:50.840 People say, oh, yeah, you know, they're Europeans.
00:52:52.840 I'm like, wait, there's a lot of different countries in Europe, people.
00:52:54.840 They speak different languages.
00:52:56.840 Not only they speak different languages, but they have entirely different cultures.
00:53:01.840 I mean, for instance, I live in Cluj-Napoca.
00:53:05.840 200 kilometers from here, it's the Hungarian border.
00:53:08.840 So I'm pretty close to Budapest.
00:53:10.840 But between Cluj-Napoca and Budapest, oh boy, they're different planets.
00:53:14.840 They're literally different planets.
00:53:16.840 Or, for instance, between Jas and Ungen, they're basically 30 kilometers between the two cities.
00:53:23.840 But one is in Romania and the other one is in the Republic of Moldova.
00:53:26.840 Again, different planets, entirely different planets.
00:53:30.840 But you can all watch American Idol.
00:53:32.840 Not necessarily.
00:53:34.840 You would be surprised how little popular that thing was.
00:53:37.840 Oh, I'm glad to hear that.
00:53:39.840 Yeah, and again, I don't necessarily question the idea of doing something to stop the French and Germans from going to war against each other.
00:53:49.840 I mean, it was a sensible thing to do at the end of World War II.
00:53:54.840 Let's sit around the table and start cooperating and let's stop fighting each other.
00:53:58.840 Because the French and Germans went to fight against each other three times in 70 years.
00:54:03.840 So it was a sensible thing to do.
00:54:06.840 But at that point, nobody was thinking of political union, which has evolved right now to be.
00:54:13.840 I mean, it's one thing to convince 28 nations on food packaging standards.
00:54:18.840 And it's a whole other thing to convince 28 nations that men and women are not different.
00:54:23.840 You know, it's not the same thing.
00:54:26.840 And now the European Union will vote in the plenary of the European Parliament right after the vacation, could be in October or early September, on a motion that will require private companies to have at least 40% women in their boards just because the European Union wants so.
00:54:44.840 You're kidding.
00:54:45.840 Geez.
00:54:46.840 No, I'm not kidding at all.
00:54:47.840 I had an entire radio show about that.
00:54:50.840 It's called Economic Freedom.
00:54:51.840 One can find it on blogtalkradio.com.
00:54:54.840 And it's basically a resolution to force companies to have at least 40% women on boards.
00:55:01.840 And there was a Danish politician, her name is Britta Thompson, who openly stated that in the European Union, you are not allowed to choose who to sit in your board.
00:55:12.840 Why do these companies put up with this?
00:55:15.840 Well, they won't.
00:55:16.840 They won't.
00:55:17.840 I mean, there has been a tremendous amount of basically moving from one country to another and eventually moving into Serbia or Ukraine, you know, countries that are very close to the European Union, but outside enough not to be affected by these kinds of crap.
00:55:34.840 Well, I'm surprised that more women don't find these kinds of things demeaning, implying that women are not capable of ending up on the boards of these companies themselves.
00:55:42.840 That's what I'm saying.
00:55:43.840 We already have all the power.
00:55:45.840 Again, it's about infantilizing women.
00:55:48.840 I mean, yes, I understand the point.
00:55:51.840 And I also consider that these kinds of measures are essentially offensive to women because you're basically saying that they always need a leg up to do that and they can't make it on themselves.
00:56:04.840 And using this kind of rationale is even closer to what they called patriarchy.
00:56:12.840 I mean, the moment you need the state to do things for you, then that's no longer equality.
00:56:19.840 That's basically equality of outcome or equality by force or substantive equality as it is called now in the European Union.
00:56:27.840 And that's exactly what has been tried in Eastern Europe for so many years.
00:56:33.840 And it didn't work.
00:56:34.840 No, it's against human nature.
00:56:37.840 Yes, it's against human nature.
00:56:39.840 And there was a guy named Vladimir Bukovsky who served the time in Gulag for campaigning for human rights and individual freedom in the Soviet Union in late 60s.
00:56:48.840 He eventually defected from the USSR and he now lives in the United Kingdom.
00:56:52.840 And he always says to Euro fanatics, look, look, guys, I have lived in your future and it didn't work.
00:56:59.840 Yeah, he warned about that.
00:57:01.840 His interview is available online, by the way, for anyone who wants to look at that.
00:57:05.840 Yes.
00:57:06.840 Well, Lucien, anything else we missed that we should cover?
00:57:09.840 Well, yes, there was in one of the interviews you made about feminism, you said that there was a female invite.
00:57:21.840 I can't remember her name.
00:57:22.840 I'm sorry for that.
00:57:23.840 Lisa Arborczewski.
00:57:24.840 Yes, yes.
00:57:26.840 Mrs. Lisa said that so many feminists enter into the business with a clean heart and they are eventually victims of a psychological warfare.
00:57:36.840 Well, I would argue against that.
00:57:39.840 I would argue that feminism has never been a force of good because even during the suffragettes where everyone thinks that, oh, at least that part of feminism was legitimate.
00:57:49.840 Well, yes and no.
00:57:50.840 First of all, we have to remember that in the same period there was something we called White Feather Campaign, where basically women were shaming men for not enlisting to die.
00:58:01.840 You're stoured.
00:58:02.840 Here's your white feather.
00:58:03.840 Yes, yes.
00:58:04.840 And also, I have never seen suffragettes demanding conscription for women, responsibility for women.
00:58:10.840 No, just give us the goodies that men have without the responsibilities for them.
00:58:14.840 And this is my final point.
00:58:15.840 In Europe, we are now thinking, we're now building a culture where rights trump responsibilities.
00:58:22.840 Yeah.
00:58:23.840 Yeah, I agree.
00:58:24.840 Personal responsibility.
00:58:25.840 And yeah, there's a lot of women that aren't feminists too that see through that.
00:58:29.840 But unfortunately, these younger generations are really getting swept up by it because it's being taught in universities and schools, women's studies.
00:58:36.840 And Mr. Rockefeller was funding a lot of the women's studies here in America, by the way.
00:58:40.840 Well, in here, the first women's studies ever funded was during the Belakun dictatorship in Hungary, and it was orchestrated by Georg Lukács, a dissenter Marxist ideologue.
00:58:53.840 And this is a matter of factual reality.
00:58:56.840 Anyone can read this thing.
00:58:57.840 It's not something that is secret.
00:58:59.840 It's just the way it is.
00:59:01.840 And if you really want to look for dangerous individuals in these days, you can also look for another Hungarian individual named Georg Sörös or George Soros, as the English language goes.
00:59:13.840 I mean, the guy has been already connected to violent thugs such as Femen or such as Vainai in Russia, the war, which is also an anarcho-Marxist movement with feminist leanings, and Femen, who is considering itself to be feminist.
00:59:31.840 And yeah, these kinds of connections exist, and denying them won't do any good.
00:59:36.840 Yeah, for me, and I talked about this with Paul, to me, feminism from the very beginning was a step in the wrong direction because it's going to government for something and building the government up to be even bigger.
00:59:47.840 Yes, and Karen Strohan, which is basically the spokesperson for AVFM and the men's rights movement in general, she once said that feminism is basically socialism in panties, and I couldn't agree more with that.
01:00:02.840 That's a good one. I agree.
01:00:05.840 Yeah, and Lucien, please tell everyone how they can read your articles and listen to your radio program.
01:00:09.840 Yes, my articles are usually once a week or once in two weeks on avoiceformen.com.
01:00:16.840 If you really want to read only my article, it would be avoiceformen.com.
01:00:24.840 My radio show can be listened to blogtalkradio.com.
01:00:31.840 My show airs every Friday on 1 p.m. Central Time in the U.S. and 7 p.m. London Time in Europe.
01:00:39.840 It's called The Voice of Europe, and the archive is also there.
01:00:43.840 Well, thank you, Lucien, for your time this evening.
01:00:45.840 Okay, thank you for having me here.
01:00:47.840 Thank you, Henrik.
01:00:48.840 Thank you.
01:00:49.840 And I said it last time, and I'll say it again, be kind to each other, ladies and gentlemen.
01:00:52.840 Men and women were intended to be a beautiful union, bringing out the best to each other.
01:00:56.840 And for some of us, we've already discovered that.
01:00:58.840 We'll talk soon.
01:01:01.840 We say you're on a revolution.
01:01:05.840 Well, you know, we all want to change the world.
01:01:14.840 You tell me that it's even a new show.
01:01:18.840 Well, you know, we all want to change the world.
01:01:27.840 But when you talk about destruction, don't you know that you can count me out?
01:01:37.840 Don't you know it's gonna be?
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01:01:56.840 It's a new show, well, you know, we don't love to see the brand.
01:02:07.880 You ask me for a contribution, well, you know, we don't do what we can.
01:02:18.100 But if you want money for people with minds that hate, all I can tell you is, brother, you have to wait.
01:02:31.060 The moon's gonna bleed.
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01:03:18.100 You tell me it's the instinct to show, well, you know, you'd better free your mind instead.
01:03:28.240 But if you don't carry him pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.
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