Radio 3Fourteen - Michelle Malkin - In Defense of America's European Roots

00:00:00.000 Welcome. I'm Lana. Joining me is Michelle Malkin, who is an American blogger, conservative

00:00:14.460 syndicated columnist, and author. She was one of the first to be on the scene in the

00:00:19.440 early days of political blogging and on social media. Michelle has written for most major

00:00:24.860 conservative publications, worked at Fox News, and she's spoken at the largest Republican

00:00:29.760 gatherings. Well, today she has become a fellow thought criminal, daring to go where most

00:00:35.740 Republicans won't go. She'll talk all about it, so stick around. Michelle Malkin, a warm

00:00:41.660 welcome. Thank you for joining us. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me, Lana. Yeah, I was

00:00:46.300 telling you earlier, if someone had told me a few years ago that you would be on red ice,

00:00:50.540 I don't think I would have believed it, but life takes these interesting twists and turns

00:00:55.480 and it's encouraging because it makes me feel like, you know, anything can happen. And so

00:01:00.340 I keep that in mind when things seem kind of insurmountable and gloom because here we are,

00:01:04.960 right? Well, yeah, and I think that there's been an interesting convergence of forces that

00:01:11.020 led us to be here together. And in a lot of ways, I've been highlighting the censorship,

00:01:17.920 the crackdown, the toxic alliance of a number of forces that are driving free thinkers and

00:01:25.440 dissidents, not only from America, but obviously around the world, off of public spaces and social

00:01:32.860 media, public squares. And I've preached for a long time that we have to stick together because

00:01:40.680 the connection, the alliance of forces on the other side is very intent on purging all of us.

00:01:50.540 And I've been more outspoken about it and I've enjoyed what is considered a so-called mainstream

00:01:57.560 career for the last 25 years. And I've had a lot of time to reflect on what exactly it is I want to

00:02:05.300 do with the platform that I have been fortunate enough to build up over these years. And so

00:02:11.180 especially over the last year, one of the things I was committed to was to try to be a voice for the

00:02:16.220 people who had been depersoned and unplatformed. And then, of course, interestingly enough, and one

00:02:22.260 could have predicted it, I myself became a target of that. And I think that by persistence,

00:02:29.380 I've tried to push back against cancel culture. And along the way, I've tried to help open up a lot

00:02:37.160 of eyes in the mainstream about the fact that there are folks like you out there who've been smeared by

00:02:43.180 the same groups that have targeted me and many other favorite personalities that have been pushed

00:02:49.640 off YouTube and Facebook. And I think that the more that we can make people aware that these forces

00:02:55.880 are coordinated and that they are well-funded and they don't have the interests of our country at

00:03:03.100 heart, I think the better off we'll all be. Absolutely. And you're doing awesome work and

00:03:07.540 we're so happy to have you. And it's interesting how one door closes. Some people may blacklist you

00:03:12.240 and then you found this whole other area welcoming you and all these young, youthful kids that are so

00:03:18.180 supportive to have you. And I want to talk about that. But first, I have to say, we're talking in a time

00:03:23.180 when people across the country are self-quarantined for coronavirus. Now, have you been social distancing,

00:03:29.820 as they say? What's going on over there? Yeah. So I'm in Colorado Springs, Colorado. And we've

00:03:36.920 recently had our governor issue a series of more narrowing of gatherings and so forth. And so,

00:03:48.740 you know, to the extent that it's practical, myself, my husband, and my two teenage children

00:03:54.420 are doing what we can to self-distance. But, you know, you can't completely cut yourself off from

00:04:04.240 society or from living in the neighborhood. And in some aspects, in some respects, it seems like

00:04:14.140 normal life goes on. You know, I'm recovering from an abdominal surgery. And I really, really have

00:04:21.580 missed over the last three weeks being able to hike. It's my big thing. And so, you know, when the weather

00:04:27.860 was nice here a couple of days ago, it was just wonderful to get out and get some fresh air. And you see

00:04:33.120 all the kids in the neighborhood on their scooters and people walking their dogs. And there's this surreal sense

00:04:39.660 of normalcy about that. And I think that the further away that you live from these huge metropolitan

00:04:48.900 cities where everybody is unnaturally crammed together, and of course, a lot of that is the

00:04:53.620 result of a certain type of social engineering, the more you get people who are living and breathing in

00:05:01.440 open, free spaces, and are healthier for it.

00:05:05.660 Yep, exactly. Think about all the propaganda outlets. You have the universities, the schools

00:05:11.320 that are shut down, the sports, the Hollywood, the bread and circus. So we're seeing less crowds,

00:05:17.740 less feminists, less protests, you know, more people at home with their families, more people

00:05:22.640 thinking about their health, people starting gardens. And I would say less refugees, but that's

00:05:28.040 not true, because I just happened to see that you were tweeting about, except the borders are still

00:05:31.880 open for refugees. Unfortunately, I was going to say less mass immigration, less pollution,

00:05:37.800 but I don't know, immigration is still continuing, yes, for refugees.

00:05:41.780 Yes, it is. And I'll get to that in a second. But I absolutely agree with you. There are

00:05:46.600 some interesting silver linings to the turning inward, to the turning inwards towards your family,

00:05:54.460 towards nuclear families, and sort of a rethinking about, you know, what it means to be reconnected.

00:06:02.620 And, you know, there's, there are some strange paradoxes, because on the one hand, people are,

00:06:07.420 you know, cooping themselves up in houses, and, you know, they can be together. I mean, we're

00:06:12.540 doing board games, and, you know, just a lot of family stuff and cooking together and all these kinds

00:06:18.820 of things. But at the same time, the internet has been critical to people being able to communicate

00:06:26.220 with each other. And here we are, being able to have this conversation, which is, you know,

00:06:31.300 truly a blessing. So, yeah, there's a lot of paradoxes about life in America in the age of

00:06:39.060 the Wu flow. And one of those paradoxes, of course, is that around the world, there is this increasing

00:06:46.220 awareness that open borders is a danger, not only to our civic culture and, and our national culture

00:06:54.380 in general, but our public safety, our national security, and obviously our public health. And yet,

00:07:00.380 at the same time, that there's a lot of, I think, premature chest beating about a triumph over

00:07:07.280 globalism, here in our country, as you referred to, and as I have been carping about on Twitter,

00:07:15.160 there are so many programs that continue apace, including the resettling of so-called unaccompanied

00:07:22.280 minors, illegal aliens, so-called youth, who declare themselves refugees and are still getting

00:07:28.840 bussed or flown into the interior of the country. And obviously, you've talked about this, and to your

00:07:36.060 peril, of course, and so many of us risking our careers and our own safety to get this message out

00:07:42.560 about demographic conquest, but also the refugee resettlement program itself, not just south of

00:07:49.040 the border, but thousands. And the Center of Immigration Studies just released a new counting,

00:07:55.520 a head count of this yesterday. Thousands of people who continue to be flown here under the sponsorship of

00:08:02.400 the United Nations and, you know, to the lucrative profit of all of these religious groups that are

00:08:09.600 exclusive contractors to the federal government, getting money from the State Department, the

00:08:15.280 Department of Health and Human Services, and then, of course, all of the supplemental money from

00:08:20.000 the transnationalist groups, the Soros-funded groups to, you know, infect our country from within,

00:08:26.880 if you want to talk about a virus.

00:08:28.240 Yeah, exactly. I think it's interesting, too, that the government, now what we're seeing across

00:08:32.880 the country is businesses are temporarily closing their doors. And in fact, some are permanently,

00:08:38.320 because they can't continue like this, people have had to lay off employees, the economy is tanking.

00:08:44.080 All of this could have just been prevented early on had they have just closed the borders. But

00:08:49.200 everyone was shrieking at the concept of closing the borders, right, to protect the people. And now we've

00:08:54.880 seen insider trading, as you've been writing about. You also were writing about Elaine Chao,

00:08:59.520 some interesting stuff there. Megacorporations and banks are now getting bailouts. Meanwhile,

00:09:05.600 the little guys are losing their businesses. There's not going to be any kind of mortgage vacation like

00:09:10.720 Italy is doing for people. So people are probably going to be losing their homes. What do you think

00:09:14.800 about all this? Has the government just gone crazy with this lockdown right now? Yeah.

00:09:20.560 Yeah. Well, I think that the you know, again, there's another paradox because

00:09:26.080 governments and particularly the public health industrial complex, as I call it, both underreacts

00:09:32.560 and overreacts. And through it all, of course, there have been a lot of basic lies. And those lies have

00:09:39.040 caused deaths. And those lies have caused delays in what the proper response that should have been

00:09:46.160 very early on. And President Trump does get a little bit of credit, I mean, considerable credit for

00:09:52.880 doing what he could do. You know, maybe eight weeks ago, it was when he limited a certain amount of

00:10:02.240 inflow coming from China. But as you said, Lana, the this, you know, this deadly PC

00:10:09.440 response to singling out the origins of the disease and the tourism and the number of thousands of

00:10:21.440 students that come from China who hold F1 student visas in this country, it's really about following

00:10:28.000 in the money. And it's not merely about hurting feelings, right? We had this Chinese born West

00:10:34.960 West Virginian journalist who was whining that somebody said Kong flew in front of her. She

00:10:40.960 wouldn't name who it was in the Trump administration. But that just shows you how

00:10:44.560 unserious a country we are. I mean, the entire news cycle has been hijacked over this back and forth

00:10:50.800 between Trump supporters and Trump himself and the never Trumpers and, you know, the liberal media

00:10:57.760 over whether it's racist or not to identify the virus by where it came from. I mean, that's what we're

00:11:03.360 talking about, really, instead of the right instead of the World Health Organization lying about whether

00:11:09.680 masks were effective or not. And, you know, we've we've got some good people in mainstream media who

00:11:15.840 are concentrating on the serious issues. And I would put Tucker Carlson at the top of that list. But even

00:11:22.240 he is limited in what he's able to say. I believe on on Fox News, Paul Ryan, one of the biggest open

00:11:29.040 borders, Republican swamp creatures is now on the board of directors there. And so, you know,

00:11:34.800 and I've worked for Fox for upwards of three decades. I know. And I know exactly what happens on the

00:11:42.320 inside of these corporate media institutions. And it's just I mean, that's what it is, what it is,

00:11:49.200 right? It's a it's a New York based multi global corporation. Rupert Murdoch has been at the forefront

00:11:56.240 of lobbying for open borders in Washington, D.C., joining hands with the likes of Michael Bloomberg

00:12:03.120 and Bill Gates. You know, I wrote it. I've written about this in my books and my columns. And, you know,

00:12:09.920 they can have a couple of good people on TV who understand the grave consequences of our open borders

00:12:17.840 for the last 30, 40, 50 years. But, you know, these institutions themselves, these corporate media

00:12:24.320 institutions themselves, you know, they may not have literal blood on their hands, but they'll never

00:12:32.720 they'll never cop to their own complicity in the current situation that they are now covering and

00:12:37.520 blaming on Trump. They never do. And unfortunately, I wish that was one of the things I was hoping that

00:12:43.040 maybe some mainstream media would go down for a certain period because they were talking about

00:12:48.000 not allowing more than what 10 people gathering in the same space or something like that. OK,

00:12:52.720 well, what about CNN and all these like major headquarters? How about we shut that down for

00:12:56.560 a while? I think that could do a lot of good in this country. Right. Two months of no mainstream media.

00:13:04.800 Good point. I wish that Trump could exercise his wartime powers and not only take over the three major

00:13:13.680 dinosaur networks, but CNN, Fox News and Twitter, for that matter. Yeah, exactly.

00:13:19.840 Now, I want to get into kind of your journey. A lot of our listeners in Europe, they might not know

00:13:23.920 you, but you've gone from speaking at the biggest Republican gatherings in America to criticizing

00:13:29.280 conservative Inc and their weak sellout positions. You know, they're being America last to speaking at

00:13:34.960 a gathering of identitarians and America first nationalists recently at a small hotel or not hotel room,

00:13:42.240 but a conference center of about 150 kids who are generally being called white supremacists and all

00:13:48.480 those other other terms. And they loved you and your speech. And it was very inspiring. So tell us how

00:13:53.600 this journey unfolded from basically a neocon conservative Inc to here you are today talking to us.

00:14:01.520 Yeah. So it's interesting because I never called myself or considered myself a neocon and I'd always

00:14:08.560 had had grassroots establishment sensibilities. From the very beginning of my newspaper career,

00:14:17.520 I had been very critical of big business Republicans, hypocritical Republicans who would always beat their

00:14:24.480 chests about being limited government while they were feeding at the corporate welfare trough. But in terms

00:14:31.920 of my journey from being somebody who had always advocated for immigration enforcement, somebody had

00:14:39.920 always identified as an unhyphenated American, pointed out the fact that my parents themselves were

00:14:47.200 immigrants to this country in 1970 from the Philippines and had always advocated for embraced and

00:14:54.000 practiced being assimilated Americans. I think what happened was from the very first book that I wrote,

00:15:02.080 after 9-11 called Invasion, which looked at the systemic failures of our immigration system to protect us

00:15:09.360 from jihad. Till 2015, when I wrote a book with a former American computer software programmer,

00:15:18.720 John Miano, who then became a lawyer representing American IT workers, combating guest worker programs,

00:15:27.200 like the H-1B program, L-1, B-1, all exploited by big business to import massive numbers of low wage tech workers,

00:15:38.640 mostly from China and India, till this latest book, which came out last fall, Open Borders Incorporated,

00:15:45.520 which just took a comprehensive look globally at who was funding what I consider a transnational human

00:15:55.840 smuggling racket, which has led to our demographic demise in the United States, a trend, of course,

00:16:03.280 that is happening around the world. I think along the way, my eyes were open to certain, unfortunately,

00:16:12.160 black-pilled realities. One of them being that, you know, our, our future in America had already

00:16:19.600 been set in stone in 1965 with the Hart Seller Act and the fundamental transformation of who was going

00:16:30.000 to get into the country. The false promises of people like Teddy Kennedy that reworking the numbers

00:16:38.160 and the places of origin that people were coming in from, shifting from Europe to the third world. The false

00:16:47.200 promise that this was not going to have any effect on American culture and American sovereignty. And then

00:16:55.040 considering what happened in 1986, when, of course, the mainstream conservative hero, Ronald Reagan, signed

00:17:02.160 the 1986 amnesty into law, amnestying millions and millions of future Democrat voters. So, you know,

00:17:10.800 connecting all of these dots and, um, allying myself with, um, people who were willing to talk about

00:17:18.880 demographics is what led to, um, me appreciating the role of young, uh, America first. I mean,

00:17:28.880 you didn't call them identitarians. You can call them whatever you want. I mean, I identify with

00:17:33.680 only one identity, American identity. I've only had one home. I have one loyalty to this country

00:17:40.240 only. And that's when you start getting into trouble because what you do is start illuminating

00:17:45.520 all of the moneyed interests that don't actually have our interests at heart. And I think a lot,

00:17:51.040 of course, this is what you're referring to by when, when we talk about neocon. And so I think,

00:17:56.400 um, you know, my support for the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were motivated by, uh, my genuine

00:18:06.000 support, which I've, you know, always maintained over the years. I think a lot of it is sentimental.

00:18:11.760 My, uh, maternal grandfather served in the Philippine army and, uh, had an incredible love of the United

00:18:19.600 States, um, and was a survivor of the Bataan death march. So my sensibility especially developed,

00:18:25.680 uh, at a liberal arts, uh, college was to always be reflexively for the troops and for law enforcement.

00:18:33.840 And I think, um, I think that, you know, I think that also having gone to Iraq in 2007

00:18:41.360 and convinced myself that this, uh, counterinsurgency experiment was actually going to work.

00:18:48.080 And then it, you know, obviously the, this death toll, this waste, this monumental waste of, uh,

00:18:55.280 the youngest, bravest, strongest American men, um, got me to rethink what exactly that war was fought for

00:19:03.840 and who, to whose benefit. Uh, and, um, of course the, the neocon wing in the, um, under the Bush years,

00:19:13.920 um, you know, these people had never been my fellow travelers when it came to, um, my monomaniacal,

00:19:22.720 they would call it my monomaniacal focus on immigration enforcement. And then of course,

00:19:28.720 um, the shedding light on the, the actual numbers, which they never wanted to talk about the numbers

00:19:36.080 and the origin of people coming into this country. And so when these America first kids, uh, started

00:19:43.600 showing up at, you know, neocon, um, sponsored events, uh, for TPUSA and for, um, for young

00:19:54.160 Americans foundation, which was the first to disavow me, I just thought, wow, this is incredibly

00:20:00.720 disruptive and it is so needed. And it didn't take a lot of money interests to, um, have these kids

00:20:09.440 just simply walk up to the microphone and ask questions about, uh, foreign aid to Israel and,

00:20:16.400 um, the effect of bringing in millions of people from China and India on, um, American students

00:20:24.480 who've been, who've been, um, convinced and persuaded for the last several years to go into so-called STEM

00:20:31.600 fields, right? When they're being stabbed in the back by, uh, all of the corporate and Silicon Valley

00:20:37.280 sponsors of, of H1B. Um, and you know, when those kids got the pushback that they did, when they were

00:20:45.040 ostracized, when they were smeared, many of them kicked off of, of, uh, YouTube, just like, uh, Red

00:20:50.880 Ice TV. Um, many of them, uh, labeled as anti-Semitic, xenophobic, white nationalists, the whole thing.

00:20:59.040 Um, you know, I just, it, to me, it was a fork in the road. It was an opportunity to, uh, you know,

00:21:05.280 choose a path, um, and not look back. And after 25 years, you know, I've never regretted any,

00:21:11.760 any choice that I've made, but this one probably more gratifying than, than any other choice that

00:21:17.760 I've made because these kids are the future. Your viewers are, are the future. Well, you found the

00:21:23.840 true counterculture now. I was really impressed during your little speech that you knew all the

00:21:28.080 edgy memes and all the fun stuff. And you know, they, they really, they loved that and you're definitely

00:21:33.120 staying relevant. Let me tell you exactly. It is the future. Now, demographics. When people say

00:21:38.560 that, a lot of people on their left, they say, oh, well, you just, you know, that's code for you

00:21:42.320 want America to be white. And I say, well, what's wrong with having a white majority if it was founded

00:21:47.280 as a European country? Why is that such a racist, dirty, awful thing when every other country in the

00:21:53.200 world, China is Chinese, Israel is Jewish, and so on. I can, I can go through all the different

00:21:58.400 countries that are S no nationalist, if you will, you know, Philippines, right? It's mostly Filipino

00:22:03.360 people. Isn't that the wonders of diversity? Isn't that what it's supposed to be? Isn't that how

00:22:08.160 the gods created us and made, made each nation and each tribe of people? So what do you say to that

00:22:13.760 as a Filipino? Well, you just want America to be white. Like that's a bad thing.

00:22:17.440 Yeah. Well, like I said, I identify as an American. And I've got family back in the Philippines. And

00:22:24.320 sure, I eat Filipino food. And I can understand Tagalog, I can't speak it. But I was born here,

00:22:30.720 I was raised here. I've traveled all around the world. And there's only one place where I'm relieved

00:22:35.760 when I come back home. And that's this home. And, you know, the problem with a lot of the open borders

00:22:42.400 neocons is they still live in this nostalgia, thinking that they can bring in millions of

00:22:48.080 people from around the world. And that this, that this phenomenon of so-called assimilation will

00:22:54.640 just happen on its own. And like, there's a such a cognitive dissonance, right? Because these are the

00:22:59.840 people that make millions of dollars, either through private philanthropy, or, you know, through the

00:23:06.000 political system, harping on just how bad the public K through 12 education system is. Well, if that

00:23:15.360 system is indoctrinating them in anti-white hatred, and white privilege doctrine, where is the assimilation

00:23:22.320 that's happening that, you know, that they so celebrate? And instead, what you get is this

00:23:27.840 multicultural rot, white guilt, which is plied every single day in every cultural Marxist leftist

00:23:38.000 institution. And you've got literally, I mean, I have been in contact with a young man who was a law

00:23:44.880 school student in Oklahoma, who had put up an it's okay to be white banner. And he was nearly criminally

00:23:52.480 charged. He was expelled, expelled from his lost school. And, and now is without a job, without a

00:24:01.040 means of education. And none of these so called conservative institutions that are fighting the

00:24:06.880 cultural wars will stand up for him. Meanwhile, what do they engage in? A very different kind of

00:24:15.040 identity politics that panders to the left. And that's true. That's truly a self-loathing

00:24:22.160 suicidal attitude. Yeah, there's nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong with and I don't apologize

00:24:27.600 as somebody who has non white skin for defending the idea that America should maintain its historic

00:24:35.840 demographic balance that we've gone completely out of whack. Does that mean that I should self deport?

00:24:41.520 Does it mean that you know, that's what America should be? No, but it certainly means that we should

00:24:46.160 rethink everything that we've done since 1965. Because, you know, if, if people don't like what

00:24:52.800 we're living under now with this kind of self quarantine, and they can't connect the dots

00:24:57.360 between this public health catastrophe that we have now, and the open borders policies that

00:25:02.640 both parties have imposed upon us over the last 30 years, then, you know, there's a reason why,

00:25:09.360 I mean, a lot of times I call the stage of America that we're at end stage America.

00:25:14.160 Yeah, absolutely. And people have to realize too, I mean, there's a lot of people that aren't white

00:25:18.640 in America that want to have a white majority. They don't, they came here because it was a European

00:25:24.160 country, because it wasn't a third world country. And now what we're seeing is the, the influx of

00:25:29.040 third world, mostly third world immigration, right? Low skilled. It's going to, if you import in the

00:25:34.800 third world, it's going to turn the country into a third world. And none of your children will prosper

00:25:39.760 in that. It's not going to be better for anyone. A lot of people think it's going to be a

00:25:42.560 kumbaya fest if just these evil white people are out of the picture. What do you think about that?

00:25:48.560 Well, all you have to do is look at the exit polls from the last midterm elections. And of course,

00:25:54.080 there's growing awareness. It's okay if the left says that it's okay if the mainstream newspaper

00:25:59.200 articles point to California turning blue, Virginia turning blue, Texas turning blue. You look at the

00:26:05.440 exit polls of Asian Americans, Indian Americans, Muslim Americans, Latin American and Central

00:26:12.160 Americans. What do they support? They support more gun control. They support less freedom.

00:26:17.200 They support abortion. You know, it's the entire left wing agenda. And yet, if you bring this up to

00:26:22.880 your standard neocon, con inc, establishment GOP, the first thing they do is, well, I don't have anything

00:26:29.920 to do with you. You're racist. It's like, well, you want to throw our country under the bus. What

00:26:34.800 does that make you? Exactly. Exactly. I guess they're just okay with it going left, Ben. And

00:26:40.080 just anything. Just don't call me a racist. Okay, we'll just all become leftists then. I know it's

00:26:44.400 so sad and so pitiful watching them. I was watching, you know, the Groypers asking questions and watching

00:26:49.360 them tongue tied, not being able to answer. Like, what do they think is going to happen? They're not going to

00:26:53.760 have a Republican Party. Then they try and wheel out their their token supporters. Let's be honest,

00:26:59.920 their token, you know, a person of color, so they can brag about like, oh, look at look at

00:27:04.800 my black friend here supports it or my Mexican friend supports it. But statistically, that's just

00:27:10.160 not true. I mean, when you look at averages and the majorities. Exactly. And, you know, I don't know

00:27:17.120 whether it's just ideological stupidity, a blind spot. In some cases, with some of these people,

00:27:24.000 they don't care. They honestly don't give a damn as long as they're getting paid by somebody. And

00:27:30.400 one of the things that is a bit irritant to me is this whole idea of like Blexit and Latinxit and all

00:27:38.400 this kind of thing. Right, whatever, you know, Jexit, all of these exit things, as if that would make any

00:27:44.960 kind of material difference, it's a trickle, right? Like, let's delude ourselves into thinking that

00:27:50.800 they will, you know, transform or convert some small number of people in these minority groups

00:27:58.160 to vote for Trump or to vote for Republican in November, compared to the flood of people that

00:28:05.920 they continue to let in through every guest worker program across the board illegally through refugee

00:28:11.760 resettlement. I mean, the whole thing is such a joke and a charade. Yeah. But if you tell one of

00:28:16.640 these people who's getting paid to do all of that, boy, are they thin-skinned about it. Forget about the

00:28:22.400 color of those. Very. And then they'll say, then they'll say, well, Latinos are natural conservatives

00:28:27.760 or Indians or whatever. Maybe, maybe in their country. But something happens when they all come

00:28:32.880 to America. They vote, they're going to vote for the Gibbs every time. They're going to vote for the

00:28:36.640 party that gives them special perks and privileges just because of the color of their skin. I mean,

00:28:41.040 let's be honest, right? Of course, they're going to vote for that party that's going to offer them

00:28:44.800 all this stuff for free, you know? Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. And yet, and yet the establishment

00:28:50.160 Republicans are still deluded. You'll hear, you'll still hear this. I've heard this for 20 years,

00:28:54.240 Lana. Well, what we really need to do is just copy the left and send out more of our volunteers to

00:29:01.440 the naturalization ceremonies. We just need to do better outreach. We really just need to talk to them

00:29:08.720 more. Right, right. By the time they're 21 or 30 or 35 or whatever, yeah, they're really going to,

00:29:14.480 the light is going to go off in their heads. Yeah, I mean.

00:29:18.880 Yeah. That's so silly. Now, I want to ask you, too, about your realization with the

00:29:24.160 Israel first realization. And I think also, you know, of course, you've been accused of being

00:29:28.560 an anti-Semite. As soon as you're somewhat critical of Israel or someone that happens to be Jewish,

00:29:33.120 which a lot of the neocons who got us into wars happened to be Jewish, right? As soon as you

00:29:36.960 question this, you're going to get called all these names, which I think you recently have.

00:29:40.880 We do, too. And I think you said you have a Jewish husband, too, didn't you, in this speech?

00:29:45.920 I do. Okay, so tell us about this realization, and also tell us about what he thinks about all

00:29:51.040 this, too. I'm curious. Well, you know, he's been my partner in crime since we were in college

00:29:57.200 together fighting, you know, the wages of cultural Marxism and multiculturalism. And he fully backs

00:30:04.800 everything that I have done and said over the course of my career. We've been business partners,

00:30:10.000 founded two social media companies. And, you know, he's behind the scenes, but he's done a lot of

00:30:18.480 reading and thinking himself. And so our journey when it comes to, especially with these endless wars,

00:30:26.080 has led us to enlightenment in all sorts of areas. And I will say this, and I've said it before,

00:30:33.040 and I have no hesitation saying it. I don't think any of these matters is beyond or should be beyond

00:30:41.840 public discourse. And I find it one of the biggest disgraces that among the con anchors who fashion

00:30:47.360 themselves free speech warriors, they're the very first to stifle any kind of dissent on these matters

00:30:55.040 when it comes to questioning whether it's in our best interests to constantly parrot the line that

00:31:01.360 Israel is and always will be our greatest ally on every single policy matter, whether it affects us

00:31:07.760 domestically or with regard to foreign policy. That's ridiculous. America first means America first,

00:31:14.480 not tied to the hip of Israel and its government and its interests, or any other one.

00:31:21.840 And, you know, I talked about this at the America first political action conference. I mean,

00:31:27.200 over the course of my career, I focused on the dual loyalties of, for example, Mexican Americans who

00:31:33.680 had infested our university system with talk of Azatlan and taking over the Southwest. After 9-11,

00:31:42.000 I highlighted the dual loyalties of many agents of jihad, many of them who had access to the Bush

00:31:49.040 administration who were within the White House just days before 9-11. I've talked about dual loyalties

00:31:57.280 of Chinese agents, for example. And even during the Bush years, I had highlighted a very little

00:32:03.200 noticed scandal that happened with AIPAC, the American Israeli political action conference,

00:32:09.360 where two AIPAC members had apparently been able to gain classified information from a low-level

00:32:18.320 Bush official, Larry Franklin. And I thought it was very strange even back then. I thought,

00:32:22.560 wait a minute, usually the rest of the conservative blogosphere, and, you know, the blogosphere was

00:32:29.520 new media back in the mid-2000s. Usually they'd jump all over these kinds of issues with regard to

00:32:38.560 the dangers of dual loyalty. And nobody else was paying attention to that scandal, not at least until

00:32:46.160 the Obama era came along and there was a revisiting of that scandal. And so, you know, I had sort of

00:32:54.800 touched on it in and out. But it really wasn't until I saw these kids asking these questions on campus

00:33:02.240 where you could see the visceral almost, I'm not going to say violence, but vehement response of the

00:33:13.200 likes of Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro. How dare these kids, you know, raise these questions? Whether it was,

00:33:22.720 you know, the USS Liberty or, or aid, foreign aid to Israel, or, you know, what was so striking was

00:33:33.120 a very simple question that was asked of Charlie Kirk, where a kid basically said, well, if the interests

00:33:40.960 of America and Israel diverged, who, which side would you pick? And he could not answer the question.

00:33:47.040 Yeah, he couldn't choose. Is this a trick question? Oh, no, if I answer this wrong, my funding might be cut.

00:33:52.720 Yeah, wow. And then, you know, the more that these kids asked specific policy questions,

00:34:00.880 the more it revealed just how weak, thin-skinned, defensive, and ultimately duplicitous

00:34:09.920 many of these so-called America Firsters really are. And I would put Dan Crenshaw at the top of that

00:34:15.520 list. He's been worst. When he was asked a very, very trenchant question about these anti-BDS laws,

00:34:24.240 and whether or not they infringed on free speech, I mean, he just, he just became so unhinged, unwound,

00:34:30.960 and hysterical. Like, I don't see how any good faith person could watch that and think, wait a minute,

00:34:37.440 wait a minute, there's something else going on.

00:34:39.840 Yeah. And as people have pointed out, they are getting paid by certain people that have those

00:34:44.800 foreign interests, you know, with Israel in mind. So it really always does usually come down to money

00:34:50.160 or some kind of fame because they know it is the kiss of death, really, as a conservative,

00:34:55.040 if you start criticizing or questioning or looking at anything involving Israel.

00:34:59.600 So, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Now, what about all the anti-Semite claims? What do you think? I mean,

00:35:05.920 it's used as a trick all the time. Just shout anti-Semite like racist. Oh, okay. That's an

00:35:10.800 argument. We shut them down. We slandered them. So now we don't actually have to answer their valid

00:35:14.560 claims, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, many of the groups that I highlighted in Open Up Borders

00:35:20.560 Incorporated, the Southern Poverty Law Center, are great friends, right, Lana? Such liars.

00:35:26.640 Yeah. Right, right. The Anti-Defamation League working in concert, not only with Silicon Valley

00:35:33.120 companies like Twitter and Facebook, but unfortunately, also with many of these con

00:35:37.840 inc forces. And I think that it's that intersection that more and more people are seeing. And maybe I'm

00:35:45.920 being too optimistic here because, of course, you know, as the screws get turned even tighter,

00:35:53.760 especially the people who are exploiting this China virus crisis to get their way. You know,

00:36:00.960 the broadening of the definition of harm by both Twitter and Facebook to push more of us off the

00:36:10.720 the redefining of any kind of dissident questioning as so-called conspiracy theorizing. On the one hand,

00:36:18.240 that's, you know, it just it's terrifying. And yet, on the other hand, there's part of me that feels

00:36:23.120 like, especially over, you know, the battles that I have had over the last six months, that more and

00:36:27.360 more mainstream normie people are seeing how empty this anti-Semitism slur really is, because everything

00:36:35.040 is anti-Semitic. And I talked about that in the in the AFPAC speech. And, you know, specifically with

00:36:41.040 regard to criticizing George Soros, criticizing many of the Jewish groups that are behind refugee

00:36:48.720 resettlement and and that are, you know, linking hands with many of these open borders, evangelical

00:36:55.600 Christians and Catholics to import massive numbers of people illegally across our border and then give

00:37:02.400 them sanctuary. You know, right off the bat, before I even open my mouth, you know, right at the very start of my book tour, I'm already labeled

00:37:10.720 anti-Semitic. And that was way before I, you know, had anything to do with next Wednesdays or America

00:37:17.440 First or AIM or AFPAC, anything like that. It just shows you what their agenda is. And they have been very

00:37:26.160 successful, very successful. And I think, like, if you look at the mainstream of the Republican Party,

00:37:33.440 you know, it seems like their number one goal is not to be called any of these names, instead of

00:37:39.120 being able to unapologetically and vociferously protect and defend their country first.

00:37:45.200 Oh, yeah, definitely. Now, I want to ask you, what do you you think? You seem to be kind of prophetic in

00:37:50.960 that way. The ultimate agenda. And this is a big question of a lot of these elites that are really

00:37:56.240 pushing this multiculturalism and so-called diversity. I mean, they'll use tanks and missiles to enforce

00:38:01.840 this though. I mean, they're trying to basically outlaw being critical of mass immigration. What do you think

00:38:07.520 their ultimate agenda is? Why are they pushing so hard, these globalists, this cabal? Why is it so

00:38:12.800 important to make the West multicultural? So it is about undermining the sovereignty of every Western

00:38:23.360 industrialized country. And the fates of both Europe and the United States are intertwined. And we've seen the

00:38:33.520 demise of so many of the countries in Europe at the hands of open borders, industrialists, globalists,

00:38:42.400 and these figureheads in power, in government. And, you know, slowly they have infiltrated

00:38:55.040 every civic and cultural institution. And they have succeeded, as we referred to earlier in our

00:39:02.720 conversation in using the school system to brainwash entire generations of Americans to feel guilty about

00:39:14.160 their culture, to feel guilty about their identity, and to feel guilty about their race. Everybody is

00:39:19.440 allowed to be an identitarian except for white European people whose ancestors founded America.

00:39:26.400 And so, I mean, the easy answer is that it is all about money. But, you know, even if you take a look

00:39:33.200 at like a globalist philanthropist like George Soros, it's not just about the money. I mean, he has

00:39:38.960 specifically said, declared in speeches and in his books that sovereignty is an obstacle to his larger goals

00:39:47.760 of global governance. And so, I mean, you see this, you know, I don't know if you've talked,

00:39:53.920 you talked about this, but there was this video that came out by some social media little entity

00:40:01.680 called Now This. Oh, yeah. And it was called Brown, right? Right? Brown Power. Oh, yeah.

00:40:06.560 And like, I mean, they're open, right? Right now in the open, no problem. Yeah, fists out, you know?

00:40:12.160 Yeah. Right, right. And they're openly bragging about it. And I consider these kinds of things

00:40:18.080 incitements to violence against white people. And, and there's this subjugation element to all of it,

00:40:28.560 whether it's Hollywood or social media, things like this, as well as the larger agenda in government.

00:40:34.040 And I think, for me, professionally, one of the most important things that I can do

00:40:39.480 is illuminate the fact that these forces have entirely hijacked the Republican Party. And even

00:40:46.760 though we have a president who campaigned and won on protecting America first and building a wall and

00:40:53.480 all that, in so many ways, it is business as usual, even in these apocalyptic times.

00:40:59.480 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Well, thanks for defending us. You know, I always say I didn't

00:41:05.240 even think about race or talk about these things until I started hearing, excuse me,

00:41:10.440 all this anti-whiteness and the hearing about white privilege and, oh, you white supremacists

00:41:15.080 and your ancestors are evil and only white people can be racist. And then I thought, hey, wait a minute

00:41:19.960 here. Of course I have to defend myself. And then now defending ourselves is going to be practically

00:41:25.240 against the law. That's where they're going with it. So it's like, okay, who's really the oppressed

00:41:28.840 one here too? And people say, well, but there's all these white people in power. They don't care

00:41:32.920 about us. They're globalists. They don't have any allegiance to us as a group or think of us as a

00:41:36.840 people. I mean, they just, they hate us as much as everyone else, it seems like. But yeah, I think

00:41:41.400 ultimately there's agenda with the West. European people stand in the way of that global governance and

00:41:47.560 they do want them out of the picture, I think. Yeah. And let me just say one other thing just to add to

00:41:54.680 it because, you know, a lot of people just, it doesn't compute for them. You know, they look at

00:41:58.840 my skin color, they, they look at my face, they look at my eye shape and they, and they think to

00:42:03.400 themselves, you know, so it's a, so they call me a white supremacist, right? It was good. I'm not,

00:42:09.400 uh, and come on, you're the new face of white supremacy. Candace Owens, get out of the way,

00:42:13.560 you know, Michelle Malkin. Yeah. Right. Well, well, let's Candace Owens still doesn't get it very much.

00:42:18.840 either. She was one of those prickly people who doesn't get it about mass migration. I mean,

00:42:23.800 they're still stuck. And, you know, I've talked about this before. So much of the mainstream GOP

00:42:27.960 is still stuck on, well, I'm against illegal immigration, but I'm for legal immigration.

00:42:32.840 Okay, great. Well, then you're still for, right? Destroying our country. Um, but I think, um, you know,

00:42:38.920 my own parents were raised, um, Catholic and, uh, trained at Jesuit universities. My mom was a public

00:42:48.360 school teacher. My father was, um, a doctor. He was a neonatologist. And, um, my mom, especially,

00:42:55.960 of course, inculcated in me, uh, this passion and love for Western literature, the Western canon,

00:43:02.760 um, the, the great books and the great ideas, uh, that were propagated by dead white men. And so somehow

00:43:11.640 this makes me a sellout because I was born in America and I want to preserve those institutions,

00:43:17.960 those ideas, those traditions, that culture, um, a culture that allowed me to, to flourish and,

00:43:23.960 um, have the success that I do. I'm not the one that is a hypocrite. It's all the ingrates who've

00:43:30.920 come into this country and, um, and vote to try and transform it and turn it into the hell holes

00:43:37.560 that they came from. Um, they're the true hypocrites, not, not me. And, um, and it saddens me to think

00:43:44.840 about, um, so many of the people who have sat on the sidelines, not just the ones who've actively,

00:43:51.960 uh, tried to sabotage our country, but the people who are too afraid and feckless and just willingly

00:43:58.760 blind, deaf and dumb to do anything about it. Oh yeah. It drives me nuts. The cowards, they're

00:44:04.040 too comfortable. They're enjoying, you know, whatever, uh, you know, resources or money or fame that they're

00:44:10.200 getting to say anything to speak out, you know, in defense of the truth. But this is our children's

00:44:14.840 future here. I mean, this is why I give it all. I think about what kind of world will my sons grow

00:44:19.720 up in, especially being white males when they're being picked on. And, and, you know, some of these

00:44:24.120 headlines that come out are unbelievable. The world would be better off without straight white men.

00:44:29.240 And they're basically sitting targets, you know? So as a mother, I can't just sit by and just say

00:44:34.200 nothing. I don't want my kids to grow up in that kind of world. I definitely feel, feel you on that,

00:44:40.440 Lana. And, uh, I feel the same way with my children who are now 19 and 16. And it's one of the reasons

00:44:47.080 why I felt so compelled to, to speak up for these young kids on these college campuses. Um, you know,

00:44:53.800 many of the TPUSA chapters have dissolved because they understand that the elites, uh, within their own

00:45:01.400 institution were selling them down the river. Um, and there are many other new found American

00:45:08.680 identity groups that are out there now advocating for themselves in a way that they never have before.

00:45:14.120 Um, and particularly American workers. Um, you know, I've done a lot of work on H1B, F1, OPT.

00:45:21.160 There are now, I think a half dozen new groups that have formed outside of the DC establishment. And of

00:45:28.040 course, a lot of those DC groups have done a lot of, of good work. And maybe some of your viewers

00:45:32.280 are familiar with them. Numbers USA, the Federation for American Immigration Reform. But those are old

00:45:37.960 line groups. Those are mostly older, uh, generation, um, boomers, uh, and beyond. And there really needs

00:45:46.600 to be fresh blood. There really needs to be people, young people, especially who are willing to put their

00:45:52.360 boots on the ground. Um, and the problem with so much of the beltway con Inc establishment is they've grown

00:45:59.800 fat and happy and complacent in their DC swamp. Um, you know, proselytizing, um, their phony talking

00:46:08.360 points from, you know, green rooms and salons and corporate media, um, TV studios while the country

00:46:15.960 deteriorates. That's right. I have to ask you though, do you think it's too late? We have these, you know,

00:46:21.560 true American nationalists emerging, you know, who they are. Uh, is it too late to save America?

00:46:27.160 Is it too far gone thinking in terms of the numbers? What kind of chance do you think they

00:46:31.800 have? What kind, what can they do to save in this country? Yeah. Well, you know, it almost feels like,

00:46:38.840 what is the, uh, I'm blanking out here. I'm having middle-aged mom brain, but the, the little boy who

00:46:44.440 put his thumb in the, uh, in the dike of the, oh, the Dutch boy. Yeah. Yeah. It's a Dutch boy.

00:46:50.040 Right. You kind of get a little bit of a sense of that. Right. But you know, I think that, um,

00:46:56.200 I think that the more that there's a movement building for a full immigration moratorium,

00:47:01.320 you hear people more and more emboldened to say that, uh, you know, the, the AI algorithms on,

00:47:07.960 on Twitter haven't suppressed that yet. Um, you have a number of young congressional candidates

00:47:13.800 and local and state political candidates that get it about mass migration and no,

00:47:18.840 they don't have billionaire backers, um, behind them, but you know, Donald Trump himself, uh,

00:47:26.040 of course he had his own personal wealth, but he was completely outside of so much of the GOP

00:47:31.880 establishment. Um, you know, he was able to defeat all of these, uh, Lilliputian, um, Republican rivals.

00:47:40.520 Um, and it was the force of, of one great idea, America first that got him there. I think also,

00:47:45.880 we have to remember that there's a long history of, of America first grassroots activism and movement.

00:47:52.760 Um, a lot of these young people now do pay proper homage to people like Pat Buchanan, um, or,

00:48:00.920 you know, grassroots activists who maybe not be, may not be known globally, but made a huge difference

00:48:07.000 here domestically in the United States, like Phyllis Schlafly, for example, who I, um, praised

00:48:12.840 during my AFPAC speech. And, um, I think that because of the ability of social media, even as limited

00:48:21.800 and constrained as it has been for these kids to be able to organize and communicate, they have more

00:48:27.320 of an opportunity than ever to, to do something to at least stave off maybe the inevitable decline

00:48:34.680 and demise of, of this country. Every empire falls. Um, but I think that, uh, you know, now is the time,

00:48:43.000 especially with this virus illuminating all of our core issues to take advantage of it. You know,

00:48:49.400 the left always exploits a crisis. Um, we could be doing a better job of it ourselves.

00:48:54.200 Absolutely. And we have to try against all odds. I mean, that's what our ancestors have been

00:48:58.920 doing since forever. That's why we're here. That's why we survived against all odds. I would

00:49:04.040 rather fight and die trying knowing that I did something than sit by and just do nothing and be

00:49:09.720 comfortable. And I think you're the same way. And I, I thank you for your bravery, you know,

00:49:12.920 to have a discussion with me and, and so many others, you know, to get to the root of the problem,

00:49:17.960 to get to the truth, because that's ultimately what this is about. And that is why we need free speech,

00:49:22.520 free speech to talk about everything, air everything out, no matter how ugly or controversial

00:49:27.960 or edgy, the best course of action is to always discuss all these things and dissect them and put

00:49:33.240 them out in the public. I mean, that is really the answer. Don't you think the same?

00:49:38.840 I, I do. And, um, I have to, you know, just reiterate what you just said about your own bravery,

00:49:46.440 um, and continuing to educate people about these matters, you know, all across the world.

00:49:51.720 And, you know, I don't really care what people call me anymore. Um, they've been calling me things

00:49:56.280 for the last 20, 25 years. Um, and I think it's an opportunity to talk to, um, informed,

00:50:03.400 smart people who care about the same core values, core tradition, um, and, and core culture.

00:50:10.440 And, um, you know, I'm, I'm tired of, you know, being in that conic echo chamber where there's so

00:50:15.960 many phonies that don't believe the things that I do. And so, you know, I've used this opportunity to,

00:50:20.920 um, you know, broaden the circles of people I talk to. And, and so I have to thank you for

00:50:27.160 this opportunity as well, Lana. Thank you. Yeah. And I find too, I'm hearing from more people

00:50:31.640 the last year around the world. I'm hearing from nationalists and in other foreign countries

00:50:36.440 who support us, you know, I, I hear from Chinese, I hear from Indians, I hear from people, of course,

00:50:41.160 all across Europe and Australia, not only the West, but outside the West, a lot of people see

00:50:45.560 this plague of globalism and it may be affecting the West, the hardest right now, but they're not

00:50:51.000 going to just stop with the West. They're, they're going to go hit up all these other countries next

00:50:54.680 to you. And that's why it's important to have a worldwide global coalition, I think of nationalists.

00:50:59.720 And I think that that really is coming together. And I think that that really,

00:51:02.920 truly freaks out a lot of these globalists. That's why they're trying so hard

00:51:06.360 to have these task force, you know, task forces, you know, trying to stop these people from

00:51:11.400 having any online communications and studying us like we're these animals in a zoo, you know.

00:51:17.800 Yeah, that's, that's for sure. You know, just one last thing, because it just reminds me

00:51:22.760 that there was a clip of Charlie Kirk of TPUSA railing against Japan's immigration policy. I don't

00:51:31.000 know if you caught this, but he was complaining that Japan had only allowed in three

00:51:36.200 refugees last year, as if this was a complete disgrace. And here comes globalist meddler,

00:51:43.960 Charlie Kirk, who at the same time is promoted by President Trump himself as this heroic America

00:51:51.080 first or having the chutzpah, you want to use a word chutzpah to tell Japan that it needs to open its borders

00:51:59.720 more to refugees. And I mean, unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, it really is. And that's, that's why,

00:52:07.320 you know, sovereignty, loving people in Western countries that have healthy functioning immigration

00:52:16.600 systems, agree with you and agree with me, that, you know, people who are,

00:52:21.640 people who love their homeland should be allowed to defend it.

00:52:26.200 That's right. And we make sense. Everything that we present, they don't shut us down because what

00:52:30.680 we say isn't true and full of lies and conspiratorial mumbo jumbo. They shut us down

00:52:35.720 because what we say is true, because we're affecting people and we're reaching people and we're making a

00:52:40.520 difference. Otherwise, they wouldn't fear it. They just, who is this little channel on YouTube, but

00:52:45.240 they're afraid of channels that have, you know, 400,000 subs. What is that compared to the mainstream

00:52:50.040 media, the media machine in this country? I mean, they're so terrified of any little channels or

00:52:56.200 blogs. They want to shut it all down. It tells you how weak and scared they really are, because what

00:53:00.840 they stand on, their foundation is not truth. They always stand on lies. And ultimately, it's gonna,

00:53:05.880 it's gonna go down. It's gonna crumble. It's not a matter of if, it's actually a matter of when.

00:53:10.360 So I think we just have to help kind of push that down, you know, because really,

00:53:13.960 this isn't the America we want to live in. I think that we can do better. There's a lot of ways

00:53:17.800 where we've just gone to the dark side. You know, it's not, it's not really the America I want to

00:53:23.080 preserve either, you know, just mass consumerism and just all this junk on Netflix. And like,

00:53:28.520 that's not the America I'm fighting for, you know? Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, the reason why

00:53:36.600 these types of people, these conic open borders type people are allowed on Fox News or CNN or

00:53:43.640 mainstream media is because they're controlled opposition. And I think, again, I think that

00:53:48.840 there are more people who are opening their eyes to this, you know, there's a certain narrow band of

00:53:55.640 talking points that are allowed. And there are a lot of people who push, I mean, who push the

00:54:00.600 boundaries and try and tug at the leash to go as far as they can, but they're limited. And so,

00:54:05.800 you know, we have an interesting plight in that we've been disavowed. And you, of course, more than

00:54:14.600 me, because I still am able to maintain my platform such as they are on Twitter and Facebook. I know

00:54:21.240 I've been shadow banned and follower suppressed for at least five, probably 10 years, because I was at

00:54:28.120 the forefront of using so much of this social media. But we're finding new outlets. And, you know,

00:54:34.680 you've built up a huge following yourself. And it's just getting people to wean themselves off of

00:54:43.000 these discriminatory platforms. And I mean, they are the enemy. People don't understand that about

00:54:50.360 Silicon Valley. I'm using it sort of as like, you know, jujitsu, to the extent that I'm still on it.

00:54:57.000 Um, I'm trying to direct people away from it. And at some point, I've and I've said this publicly,

00:55:03.480 I will unplug those platforms before they unplug me. But at this point, they still have views. For

00:55:09.960 example, I will be able to tweet out our interview. And, you know, we'll, we'll see what happens.

00:55:17.640 Um, but right when you watch, we'll be all over it immediately. You know, Jared Holt's going to be

00:55:22.760 writing a piece now I already see it, you know. Oh, no. Yeah, that's right. He's got like a macro

00:55:28.760 with like a copy paste. Right? Well, last question for you. So are you playing a lot of Dungeons and

00:55:35.080 Dragons during a self quarantine? Because I heard that you're a D&D fan. You know, I am an old school

00:55:41.960 gamer. And so it is appropriate. They call me Mommy Malkin among a certain set of gamers.

00:55:48.680 Um, and yes, we've got the manuals and we will, uh, we've got my whole stash of old school board

00:55:54.680 games. And yes, and a quaint retro feel that's, uh, you know, it's, it's one of the silver linings

00:56:01.240 of this quarantine period. I remember during the 90s, the kids that were playing D&D is mostly, uh,

00:56:06.760 goth kids in the 90s. A lot of goth, you know, super pale guys wearing lots of black, but it's

00:56:13.720 good to hear that it's still out there. I also heard that what was, I think you're the one who

00:56:17.400 did a video about it back in 2018 or something. I was accused of perpetuating systems of white

00:56:22.440 oppression or something by playing the game. Like that's absurd. Yeah. Right. There was a,

00:56:28.360 this sort of SJW, uh, backlash against Gary Gygax and, you know, some of the originators of,

00:56:35.000 uh, of these, uh, old school games. And, um, when I was growing up in the seventies and early eighties,

00:56:42.200 it wasn't goth kids. It was total nerds. And so I think that's the secret is that, you know,

00:56:47.400 I've always been a nerd. Well, you're pretty hip for nerd. So tell us about, obviously we know your

00:56:52.600 websites, but, uh, books, uh, you've written a lot of books, actually, I think like six books. Uh,

00:56:56.600 I haven't read one, but I should pick up your last one. Any events, anything that you have going on,

00:57:00.860 anything you want to let us know about? Um, well, I am using telegram more, so you can find me at

00:57:07.100 telegram at Michelle Malkin and, uh, yeah, I mean, all seven, my, uh, this, uh, Open Borders Inc. was

00:57:13.100 my seventh book. They're all available on Amazon. Um, you know, but Amazon is one of those, you know,

00:57:18.780 companies that I have a lot of ambivalence about, you know, I mean, Jeff Bezos has, has, uh, been one of

00:57:23.900 the big funders of, of Open Borders Inc. Um, but you can buy my books directly through, um, my publisher,

00:57:30.700 my main publisher, Regnery at Regnery.com. Um, and of course I continue my nationally syndicated

00:57:37.340 newspaper column, which you can access every week at Michelle Malkin.com. One of these con inkers tried

00:57:44.060 to, uh, uh, initiate a boycott against my, um, syndicate, my, my newspaper syndicate and failed

00:57:51.420 because she was too lazy to, um, find the client list. She wanted me to hand it to her. Um,

00:57:57.740 but that just goes to show you the, the quality of conservative ink journalism these days. Uh,

00:58:03.580 and I see, uh, I see the town hall screen here. They stopped carrying my column. Oh,

00:58:08.460 really? Yeah. So I recommend, uh, another, uh, website that has, uh, well, there's vdare.com.

00:58:16.140 Vdare is great. Vdare has carried my column since almost its inception in 2000. Uh, let's see. I

00:58:23.260 started getting syndicated in 1999. They've carried it since 2000 or 2001, uh, and cnsnews.com. But,

00:58:30.140 uh, yeah, there's a lot of, uh, true colors. Yay. There's vdare. Yeah. Peter Brimlow is a hero. Um,

00:58:35.740 of course, alienation, uh, was published, I think 25 years ago. It's his quarter century, um,

00:58:42.860 milestone of that book, which was really, you know, one of the most prescient when it came to

00:58:47.900 forecasting everything that we're suffering through now. Yep. Yep. I think you have the gift.

00:58:51.660 So you're on the right path and, uh, you know, we can, we see it's inevitable where things are going

00:58:56.940 and where they need to go. So, well, thank you so much for giving us time today. I really appreciate.

00:59:01.180 It's been great getting to know you too. Thank you. Take care, Lana.

00:59:06.220 I love her. She's great. She's one of those nice, warm people that you can connect with immediately.

00:59:10.700 Let her story be encouraging to all of us because this political ideological war is far from over.

00:59:18.300 It is just getting going and we are beginning to change the tide and we have many allies in places

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Radio 3Fourteen - April 02, 2020

Michelle Malkin - In Defense of America's European Roots

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