Radio 3Fourteen - July 15, 2015


Russian New Right_ Slavic Paganism _ Dual Faith

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Zionist mafia control in Russia primordial Slavic worldview
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Lana Lokteff
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Tuilev
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Veneti Slavs Baba Yaga Rurik Vladimir Putin Anthony Sutton Zeus Lada Walter Schubert Aryan Nowadays Mater Matuta Roman Latona Hitler Atene Leto Thor Synergy EuropΓ©enne Sergei Trubetskoy Nikolai Fyodorov Various Slavonic Robert Stack and 39 more
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Tuilev Pavel Vladimirovich is a scholar, writer, and professor of the International Slavic Institute in Moscow with a Ph.D in history. He is on the forefront of the European New Right and Aryan Slavic movement in Russia, and is the publisher of the magazine Atene. Tuilev is the author of many publications in different genres from Russia, Europe, and America. Some of his articles and interviews are collected in the book The White World in My Heart. We'll discuss the idea written about by German philosopher Walter Schubart, who wrote in Europe and the Soul of the East, that the West has fallen prisoner of materialism and lives in a time of crisis. And that the new awakening has to come from the east, from Russia.

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00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:00:30.000 This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.
00:00:45.540 Welcome to my diverse audience.
00:00:48.020 In the truest sense of the word, not just the shallowness of skin color, this is Lana. 0.97
00:00:52.620 Joining us today is Tuilev Pavel Vladimirovich from Moscow, and in Russia he's well known.
00:00:58.820 Tuilev is a scholar, writer, and professor of the International Slavic Institute in Moscow with a Ph.D. in history.
00:01:06.680 He is on the forefront of the European New Right and Aryan Slavic movement in Russia, and is the publisher of the magazine Atene.
00:01:14.180 Tuilev is the author of many publications in different genres from Russia, Europe, and America.
00:01:19.020 Some of his articles and interviews are collected in the book The White World in My Heart.
00:01:24.280 We'll discuss the idea written about by German philosopher Walter Schubart, who wrote in Europe and the Soul of the East,
00:01:30.840 that the West has fallen prisoner of materialism or Promethean culture and lives in a time of crisis.
00:01:36.980 He thought that the West was unable to save itself on its own and that the new awakening has to come from the East, from Russia.
00:01:43.280 We'll also discuss the need to unify Russia with the rest of Europe and the new right alternative to combat modern degeneracy. 0.83
00:01:50.960 Then we'll discuss a bit about Slavic paganism and ancient Slavic people.
00:01:55.260 Tuilev Pavel Vladimirovich, coming up.
00:01:58.640 Welcome, Mr. Tuilev. Thanks for being here.
00:02:01.180 Thank you very much, dear Lana, for your kind invitation.
00:02:03.940 You're a respected professor and a well-known thinker in Russia and Europe, so I'm looking forward to this conversation.
00:02:09.380 But can I use your pagan name, Buyan? Is that how you say it?
00:02:12.360 Well, you may call me better Mr. Tuilev or professor because I'm a teaching history and languages.
00:02:21.660 Considering my pagan name, Buyan, that I use as a literary pseudonym, it's a long story.
00:02:29.220 It means a magic island, something like Tuile.
00:02:33.060 Very nice. Well, we have so much to talk about, so let's just jump right into this.
00:02:38.640 Well, as the German philosopher Walter Schubert wrote in Europe and the Soul of the East,
00:02:43.320 he said that the West had fallen prisoner of materialism or Promethean culture and lives in a time of profound crisis.
00:02:51.120 And he thought that the West was unable to save itself on its own and that the new awakening has to come from the East, from Russia.
00:02:58.400 So what are your thoughts on this?
00:02:59.960 You are absolutely right to choose this question or this quotation from Walter Schubert.
00:03:08.360 He is one of the best thinkers of the 20th century.
00:03:12.080 I could call him a prophet.
00:03:14.420 The West cannot live without East, obviously. 0.98
00:03:18.200 Historically, the European culture took many discoveries and sacred knowledge from Asia, pre-Roman civilizations first, and then from India and Byzantine.
00:03:32.200 Christianity itself has Eastern roots, you know.
00:03:36.640 And today, Russia, that is situated in the heartland of the Old World, in the center of Eurasia, is the bridge between East and West. 0.62
00:03:52.000 Russia is the axis of world history.
00:03:54.940 That's why the Russian soul, expressed in art and music and philosophy in our traditional life, is very attractive for European intellectuals.
00:04:05.460 Well, there's definitely a need to unify Russia with the rest of Europe.
00:04:10.380 And I know you support efforts to build the new continental axis, which is Paris, Berlin, Moscow, or a pan-Aryan bloc from Spain to India.
00:04:19.980 You've also talked about a post-NATO alternative, a new military and political bloc.
00:04:24.920 So tell us about your thoughts on this.
00:04:26.640 I should say, to reunify, because the Tsarist Russia used to be a European power.
00:04:36.000 Old Russians have Nordic, Slavonic, and Aryan origin.
00:04:40.640 In the 19th century, our imperers were the leaders of the European diplomacy.
00:04:48.540 The Bolshevik Revolution and so-called Perestroika have broken this geopolitical situation. 0.85
00:04:56.640 And my generation wants to re-establish continental alliance.
00:05:02.500 The strategic axis, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, developed by Synergy EuropΓ©enne in the 19th of the last century, was supported by Vladimir Putin government.
00:05:15.420 But they couldn't realize the project of the new great Europe, from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean, for many reasons.
00:05:25.060 My idea was to complete the European axis with Spain in the West and India in the East, so we could have a strong pan-Aryan union.
00:05:38.660 Of course, China is very important for the continental stability and peace, but it is too different from the racial point of view.
00:05:55.960 The Mongolite population of China is 10 times bigger than the European Russian one.
00:06:04.980 So, racial assimilation, in this case, means dissolution of the minority.
00:06:11.300 Considering the alternative post-NATO military bloc, we wanted to find good partners in Europe and USA for the further strategic cooperation.
00:06:25.180 Our ex-minister of defense, Mr. Ivanov, has even proposed the idea of the Northern Alliance, but North Atlantic Treaty Organization bosses didn't want these radical changes.
00:06:43.420 The U.S. Army wants to be the only chief in the European world.
00:06:49.340 USA seeks for the global hegemonia. 0.65
00:06:53.860 American Oaks don't need strong partners.
00:06:57.560 They need vassals and victims.
00:07:00.240 The Yugoslavian catastrophe and the newest strategy in Ukraine shows what kind of Europe they need. 0.99
00:07:09.720 Bomb and build, that's their bloody business.
00:07:14.960 So, we have to protect ourselves from this banditism.
00:07:20.460 And that's why Russia looks for new partners in the East and all over the world.
00:07:26.560 Well, you mentioned Synergy is European and your magazine, Atenyi.
00:07:30.300 So, tell us about that and anything else you'd like to share for English-speaking listeners so they can learn more.
00:07:35.620 Synergy is European is a circle of pan-European and new-right activists, mostly intellectuals or politicians.
00:07:47.500 It was founded in the 90s, 90s of the last century.
00:07:52.580 A Belgian thinker and publisher Robert Stoykers has become its general secretary.
00:08:00.300 And he published some magazines.
00:08:04.780 In that time, I was the editor of the traditionalist Russian magazine, The Heritage of Ancestors.
00:08:12.880 And we decided to exchange ideas with Synergy.
00:08:17.740 In the first year of the new millennium, I have founded the Almanach Atenei.
00:08:23.820 That means Ateneum, the Temple of Wisdom.
00:08:27.720 It was my answer to the challenges of the 21st century.
00:08:35.040 In the ideology, our Ateneum did not imitate any of anterior schools.
00:08:44.160 We were conscious that returning to old religions and myths in their archaic forms is impossible in our age.
00:08:51.200 However, we wanted to continue the classical tradition and to promote new aristocracy in Russia.
00:08:59.580 Tackling the problems of the contemporary world, we touched upon a wide range of topics dealing with history and racial studies,
00:09:11.120 religion and aesthetics, science and technology, economics and politics, international relations, of course,
00:09:19.620 and the arts and the art of world war.
00:09:24.300 During 10 years, I have published hundreds of very important materials of most diverse genres.
00:09:32.120 Analytical forecasts, strategic researches, academic articles, literary says, books and CDs, reviews and so on.
00:09:42.420 I have also organized in Moscow some international conferences like The Wide World's Future and Russia and Europe's New Perspectives.
00:09:54.660 They gathered famous European thinkers like Guillaume Fay, France, Pierre Vial, France, David Duke, USA, Pierre Krebs, Germany, Chris Roman, Flanders.
00:10:10.600 As a result, we have founded Euro-Russian Geopolitical Center in Belgium.
00:10:16.300 The last paper edition of our Ateneum was published in 2008 for political and technical reasons.
00:10:28.960 Now, we have only a web version of the Ateneum and it's very different from what we had 10 or 12 years ago.
00:10:38.580 Anyway, you're welcome to visit the English page of our web forum.
00:10:43.540 Well, how can we work and fight together for a traditionalist and new right alternative to this modern degeneration that we're seeing?
00:10:53.320 The answer to this question is not so easy as it seems to be, Dirlana.
00:10:59.820 First, we need to know the achievements of our movement all over the world.
00:11:05.720 And we Russians usually know better what's happening in the West than Europeans and Americans know about us.
00:11:15.780 Yes, we read and speak English, German, French, Spanish, but Western people very seldom speak Russian.
00:11:23.400 Yeah.
00:11:23.500 You don't know our history and our victories, so I propose the white pride activists to discover the unknown continent. 0.84
00:11:35.320 And you will find a lot of surprises then.
00:11:38.660 The good news is that these processes is on a way.
00:11:42.920 The International Conservative Forum that took place in St. Petersburg this year has gathered about 50 leaders from many countries and organizations,
00:11:58.660 including Sam Dixon and Jared Taylor from American Renaissance.
00:12:04.120 Yes.
00:12:05.060 You know them, do you?
00:12:06.060 Yes.
00:12:06.320 The delegates of different views agreed to cooperate for a spiritual alternative to the modern degeneration.
00:12:15.600 The liberal capitalist society has criticized this outstanding event,
00:12:21.960 but some of its principles, because some of its principles do not admit the aggression of the new American world order and its libertarian tolerance.
00:12:33.020 Well, I have to ask, since we never get the real story of Russia, would you say Russia is controlled by a capitalist oligarchy or what is it?
00:12:42.780 Modern Russia has been controlled by a capitalist oligarchy before Putin's regime.
00:12:50.180 That's truth.
00:12:50.880 And I can say openly that it was a Zionist mafia, because only seven Jewish bankers, the head of the Russian Jewish Congress in Yeltsin time, control 50 percent, the half of the financial system of our big country. 0.75
00:13:11.320 It's incredible.
00:13:13.320 Yeah.
00:13:13.420 But it is truth.
00:13:16.300 Now, the Russian government is much more independent from international bank system, but it's very difficult to oppose it.
00:13:24.820 I hope you know this problem.
00:13:26.400 Yes, I do.
00:13:27.880 Let me tell you about my own experience then.
00:13:31.740 It is connected with publishing Anthony Sutton books on conspirology in Russian.
00:13:40.940 Do you know him?
00:13:41.620 Oh, yes, we do.
00:13:42.240 We came, he, Anthony Sutton, came to the USA from England to make researches in the Hoover Institute of Wars and Revolutions.
00:13:54.220 And the second part of the last century, Anthony Sutton has written some very important studies, especially about Wall Street, Wall Street bankers, and the order skull and bones.
00:14:06.340 Some of them I have omitted in Russia.
00:14:08.900 Some of them I have written some very important studies, which I can make the list, how the order creates wars and revolutions, trilateral of America, the Federal Reserve Bank conspiracy, Wall Street and the Bolshevik revolution, and Wall Street and the rise of Hitler.
00:14:26.720 So, all these books are published in Russia and Moscow.
00:14:33.000 The main conclusion of this outstanding researcher is that the order used in the world politics, the dialectical principle of the controlled conflict.
00:14:47.400 When two sides make war, the third participant plays on the contradictions of this conflict.
00:14:57.180 The American New World Order is the result of this strategy. 0.73
00:15:01.520 Well, in America, some of these topics, they're considered radical and racist.
00:15:07.220 So, is it the same in Russia?
00:15:10.040 Well, anti-capitalist critics has been always considered radical in the USA.
00:15:15.200 But in Russia, we have a long socialist experience during the USSR, when anti-capitalist and anti-imperialism were crucial points of the official communist propaganda.
00:15:29.480 At the same time, the Soviet anti-Syanist movement was not racial and not anti-Jewish, as it was in the National Socialist Germany.
00:15:42.280 Russian conspirologists know that anti-Semitic Hitler was the instrument of the Anglo-American geopolitical game against Germany and Russia.
00:15:54.060 It was very insidious, but wrong.
00:15:58.600 It is impossible to conquer Russia that is protected by God. 0.97
00:16:02.120 Well, in your book, The White World and My Heart, you brought up an interesting concept by S.N. Trubetskoy, who developed the concept of the sobornost, of human consciousness.
00:16:12.960 And I think that's very relevant today.
00:16:14.960 So, tell us about it and how it ties into your idea of spiritual soil.
00:16:20.540 It is a very special point of my philosophy and not easy to explain in two sentences.
00:16:27.380 But I will try if you want.
00:16:29.620 Please.
00:16:29.940 Sobornost is a concept that expresses free, aggregative, personal, organic, self-developing unity.
00:16:42.580 It derives from the word sobor, which means a process of coming together, of moving from different directions toward one point.
00:16:52.960 It is close to the symbol of the Orthodox faith, the ancient Greek term, for all, according to all, and altogether, mystically expressed in the Holy Trinity and the Church itself.
00:17:10.780 Many Russian thinkers developed the universal idea of sobornist.
00:17:17.320 And Sergei Trubetskoy, that you have mentioned, is one of them.
00:17:20.880 His personal view refers to the supra-individual nature of human consciousness, of human mind and language, to the principal vector of its development.
00:17:36.440 From a syncretic view of the world, through the individualistic, to a synthetic view, uniting all forms of comprehending reality.
00:17:48.200 Intuition, religion, art, philosophy, philosophy, science, and practice.
00:17:54.840 It teaches us to see the eternal in time.
00:17:59.320 Because every person, every person, every I, and you, Lana, is a part of the divine soul.
00:18:08.900 Sobornist is manifested in many forms of human life.
00:18:14.700 Family, communities, free statehood, various religions and international organizations.
00:18:22.320 Some saints and prominent persons like Sergius of Radonish or Nikolai Fyodorov turn after their death into the symbols of sobornist too.
00:18:36.960 And we pray to the sobor of all saints who have achieved glory on Russian land and believe that our souls will unite with them and with God after the final trial.
00:18:48.900 So is this idea of sobornost, is it returning in Russia?
00:18:54.580 Yes, of course.
00:18:56.580 There are various institutions that use this sacred principle in the name of the organizations and in their programs.
00:19:05.100 It is really important to understand that we can cooperate and co-create with God or with gods.
00:19:12.020 This is our common theurgist mission. 0.81
00:19:15.700 Well, I wanted to ask you about the Slavic people.
00:19:19.740 We don't hear much about them over here.
00:19:22.080 But in your view, where is the origin point of Slavic people?
00:19:27.620 Well, first of all, I would like to remind that there are 18 Slavonic ethnicities that compose the majority of 15 states.
00:19:39.460 All together, we are three, I'm sorry, 300 million people.
00:19:51.980 Slavonic tribes proceeds from the Indo-European family.
00:19:56.940 And sometimes they are called Aryans.
00:20:00.000 That is not very correct from the scientist's point of view.
00:20:02.920 Russically, we are a very important part of the white race.
00:20:09.600 Northern Slavs genetically are very close to the Baltic race.
00:20:15.600 And Southern Slavs have much in common with Turan or Turkish anthropological type.
00:20:22.620 Russian people is the biggest Slavonic nation, you know.
00:20:28.180 And we are about 100 million.
00:20:33.300 Russians, by nature, constitute 80% of all population of our country.
00:20:40.860 The myth about Mongoloid influence into the Russian genetics is incorrect.
00:20:45.920 European Russians are very close to Baltic and German peoples.
00:20:55.320 Some years ago, I have written and published a book, Veneti Slavs and Sisters, where I prove this thesis with many details from a historical point of view.
00:21:09.280 Well, at the start of your book, you talk about how the Russian Tsar's dynasty goes back to the house of Rurik or Rurug.
00:21:16.720 I know this story.
00:21:17.740 But what can you tell us about Rurik and the Rus?
00:21:20.140 Where did Rurik come from?
00:21:21.780 What about Rurik's role in establishing Russia?
00:21:25.360 Okay.
00:21:26.480 Yes, you're absolutely right.
00:21:29.800 The first Russian Tsar dynasty goes back to the house of Rurik.
00:21:34.960 It was a sacred name of a very ancient family and an old city in Germany, western Germany, near modern Mecklenburg.
00:21:48.980 Rurug is a totem.
00:21:51.840 It means a firebird like phoenix.
00:21:55.600 Rurik was a legendary Viking that organized all Russian state with Novgorod as a capital.
00:22:04.960 Russian Vikings has conquered the merchant way from the Baltic to the Black Sea, where Kiev was an important center.
00:22:17.140 This is the aches of our Middle Age history. 0.94
00:22:20.960 And here we find the roots of the Russian Crimea.
00:22:25.480 Now, how did Rurik convert to Christianity, establishing it among the Rus?
00:22:30.100 I know it's kind of a funny story how this happened.
00:22:32.200 No, it was not Rurik, no.
00:22:36.020 Askold and Dyr were the first Russian Vikings that accepted Christianity in the 19th century.
00:22:45.920 Not 19th, 9th century.
00:22:49.080 Then came Saint Olga and her grandson Vladimir.
00:22:53.460 The funny story is about how Russian princes had to choose between orthodoxy, yes, Catholicism, Judaism, and Islam.
00:23:05.920 As you know, they selected orthodoxy because it's very spiritual and beautiful.
00:23:10.420 Well, tell us about this dual faith that existed for 200 years, because it was interesting how native ways held on for a very long time.
00:23:20.160 So, did it influence orthodox Christianity?
00:23:22.480 Oh, it's another long story, dear Lana.
00:23:26.380 Because so-called dual faith lived for 2,000 years and not 200, not 200.
00:23:36.080 First of all, we must understand that so-called paganism or heathen faith has very, very ancient roots.
00:23:44.760 The cult of sacrifier, for example, is at least 500,000 years old, half of the million, half of the million years old.
00:23:56.460 Some animal totems like beer related with the sky ursus are about 40, 30,000 years old.
00:24:06.800 And we find archaic sculptures with a great mother, a woman called Venera Venus, by archaeologists.
00:24:16.800 They are at least 20,000 years old.
00:24:20.980 So, when Christianity came, the background of the human mentality was complete with very strong religious myths and traditions.
00:24:29.820 Historically, the savior, Jesus Christ, had also ancestors like Krishna and Buddha.
00:24:40.820 They all were incarnations of the divine absolute.
00:24:46.820 The Holy Trinity itself is a Christian version of the Vedic Trimurti.
00:24:52.820 And the mother, Mary, is the heiress of the great mother, Indian Mahadevi, or old European Mater Matuta.
00:25:06.120 A Christian church had to assimilate various pagan traditions, but they could not do it quickly.
00:25:13.520 This way appeared the mixture of the heathen myth and Christian theology, that we call dual faith.
00:25:24.400 Well, before Christianity, we know the Slavs, they had their own traditions and pantheon of deities.
00:25:30.360 So, what were some of these primordial traditions of the Slavs before Christianity?
00:25:34.960 The oldest period of the Russian and Slavs' primordial tradition is connected with the Hyperborean civilization
00:25:44.920 that took place on the Arctic continent, northern Arctic continent, many thousand years ago.
00:25:53.960 In the northern part of Eurasia are found the rest of prehistoric cities and temples, like Arkaim or Arctic islands.
00:26:05.120 Some sacred Indo-Aryan texts, as Veda, confirm the history of migrations of Aryans from the north to the south.
00:26:15.120 Many of local toponyms, especially river names from northern Russia, have parallels in Veda.
00:26:24.080 The primordial Hyperborean tradition is reflected in the common Indo-European mythology, very well known in the academic world.
00:26:34.640 When we speak about native gods, we mean our primordial, heathen, Indo-Aryan, ancient European, and old Slavs. 1.00
00:26:45.120 It has its own history, described in many ways in different schools.
00:26:54.420 There are hundreds of traditions to interpret, to present, and to glorify our pagan gods.
00:27:04.020 The native gods, Pantheon, is many thousand years ago, of course.
00:27:09.220 The roots have been growing from anti-Diluvian era, from Paleolithic times and matriarchist society.
00:27:19.480 It is not easy to study this primordial tradition as whole, to see genetic and linguistic links, to avoid subjectivism, localism, and personal fantasies.
00:27:31.480 For example, so-called Western schools, they like to speak about Indo-European tradition, but generally surveys Celtic, Germanic, and Indian heritage.
00:27:48.400 The Baltoslavic, Scythian, or Russian antiquities are not well known in the West.
00:27:53.340 This ideological mistake is not acceptable for the modern Europe that unites Western and Eastern parts of the continent.
00:28:02.140 Well, what more can you tell us about their worldview in ancient pagan Slavic times?
00:28:06.880 In short, the tree of life, that is called Arbor Mundi, in Latin, or Yggdrasil in Scandinavian languages, united three worlds.
00:28:23.000 The sky above, the earth in the heart, and the underground below.
00:28:28.420 These three spheres were populated by pagan gods of different qualities.
00:28:34.240 In the Hyperborean mythology, for example, the god of the sky, Zeus, has a vertical structure, symbolized by a nexus, phallus, or tree, or shivalingam.
00:28:53.100 Zeus impregnates Leto, or Lada, who personifies the astral zodiac, round in form and rotating in function.
00:29:04.240 Her symbol is a ring, her symbol is a ring, diamond ring.
00:29:08.240 Zeus and Leto produce twins, namely, the polar goddess's beard, Artemis, Russian Lelia or RoΕΎanice,
00:29:18.640 and Apollo, Russian cupola, dashbok, the archer, who is associated with the Taurus constellation.
00:29:29.120 And both twins were born under the pole star at the point of absolute north of the world axis,
00:29:38.260 which is why they are called Hyperborean.
00:29:42.180 Various Slavonic tribes have their own peculiarities in the pantheon, and it is impossible to describe it in this interview.
00:29:55.320 Sure.
00:29:56.340 Well, are there any preserved writings or stories of any kind from ancient Slavic people?
00:30:01.700 And what about old Slavic art that's maybe depicting some of these native gods?
00:30:05.640 Oh, sure.
00:30:08.280 Sure.
00:30:08.660 We have a very rich corpus of ancient folk songs and magic fairy tales.
00:30:15.100 I should mention northern Bylinas, folk stories, about Volga, Sviatogor, and Sadko.
00:30:26.400 These are old personages.
00:30:28.960 The very popular nowadays book of Veles, Velesova knyga, to my opinion, was written in the middle of the 20th century by folklorist Yuri Miralubov.
00:30:42.940 So it is a modern literature.
00:30:46.900 It is a reconstruction.
00:30:48.920 Old Slavonic and Russian art represents a rich variety of traditional Indo-European myths,
00:30:56.000 such as the tree of heaven with padded eyes, birds, Arbor Mundi, I have mentioned it,
00:31:03.280 the archaic goddesses, figures as motherland, and RoΕΎanica, mother Matuta,
00:31:09.780 Dajbok, the god of the sun, like Apollo,
00:31:13.200 Rod, the godfather,
00:31:15.360 and Perun, the god of power and thunder, like Thor.
00:31:19.200 Their images come from pre-Christian times and leave until modern times in our folklore and even in the modern art.
00:31:29.820 Everybody who is interested in this question may read in the internet my illustrated article,
00:31:37.620 Native Gods in the Russian Art.
00:31:39.940 So I can give you a link.
00:31:42.300 Definitely.
00:31:42.700 We'll share that with this interview if people want to learn more.
00:31:45.160 Well, our principles were displaced by these modern theologies,
00:31:50.000 and we know before that existed hundreds of pagan gods and goddesses that we once knew by name.
00:31:55.760 So is it important to remember them today?
00:31:58.960 Not everybody can enter details of the old pagan pantheon.
00:32:04.020 And they don't need it.
00:32:05.880 For many people, that's enough to understand the god,
00:32:11.420 to understand that the god has innumerable diversity in itself.
00:32:17.840 Diversity.
00:32:19.840 But I tried,
00:32:21.620 but I tried to study this interesting question profoundly.
00:32:26.600 It took me about 20 years.
00:32:29.300 And in result,
00:32:31.480 I have published a beautiful album,
00:32:33.880 Native Gods by Slavonic Artists,
00:32:36.840 that contain about 100 articles
00:32:39.800 and more than 200 pictures
00:32:42.980 in color and black and white.
00:32:46.020 And it is valuable to order, too.
00:32:49.140 Well, the Slavic pantheon parallels with Nordic mythology.
00:32:53.160 You have Thor and his hammer,
00:32:55.020 and you have Perun with his axe.
00:32:56.640 It's very similar.
00:32:57.620 Do you find these parallels are seen all over the white ancient world?
00:33:03.480 Of course.
00:33:04.820 There are parallels of the Slavic pantheon with Nordic mythology,
00:33:09.300 because Russian has Nordic origin, as I have told.
00:33:16.720 Thor and Perun have some common characteristics, indeed.
00:33:21.720 And Freya is close to Lada, for example.
00:33:25.360 Well, you devote a chapter to Russian native goddesses like Lada.
00:33:30.700 Does the idea of Mother Russia come from a pagan idea?
00:33:34.620 Exactly.
00:33:35.980 The idea of Mother Russia has pagan roots.
00:33:39.860 She is like Mother Earth and Sophia, 0.95
00:33:44.160 the divine wisdom.
00:33:46.800 Lada is different.
00:33:48.020 She is the principle of cosmic harmony,
00:33:51.260 love, and accord.
00:33:53.840 In Russian, Lada is harmony, accord.
00:33:58.800 Expressed in the image of the goddess,
00:34:04.080 who corresponded to the Greek Leto and the Roman Latona.
00:34:08.720 Let me quote my poem devoted to Lada.
00:34:13.700 Lada, my dearest,
00:34:16.320 You are a twice-blessed mother.
00:34:19.180 Gods are your infants,
00:34:21.640 The glorious brother and sister.
00:34:24.660 Swarok's will rotates 0.96
00:34:26.800 Your heavenly throne.
00:34:29.840 Unfettered Boreas unfurls your wings.
00:34:33.200 The spring sun gives life to all around you.
00:34:37.820 Birds sing in triumph,
00:34:40.180 And young girls dance in rings.
00:34:43.520 Clear waters compose magic hymns,
00:34:47.280 And the graces sing a lullaby to the earth.
00:34:50.280 The classical sculptures,
00:34:53.580 Vlada, Roman Latona,
00:34:55.400 Which have come down to our times,
00:34:58.160 Show her with two infant twins,
00:35:01.620 Either in their arms,
00:35:03.820 Or on her lap.
00:35:05.340 The twins are Artemis,
00:35:07.880 Diana,
00:35:09.860 The Slavonic,
00:35:10.680 Dzevana,
00:35:11.400 UΕΎiva, 0.60
00:35:12.000 And Apollo,
00:35:13.200 Slavonic,
00:35:13.720 Kupala,
00:35:14.360 And Kupavon.
00:35:15.380 So this is the very exact image of Vlada.
00:35:21.280 Well,
00:35:21.700 Many female goddesses were demonized, 1.00
00:35:24.600 Forgotten,
00:35:25.620 Or superimposed with this Virgin Mary.
00:35:28.240 It makes me think of Baba Yaga.
00:35:30.060 She was demonized as a witch in Christian times. 0.97
00:35:32.600 My grandma used to read me some Baba Yaga stories.
00:35:34.820 So tell us who Baba Yaga really was.
00:35:38.700 Yes, Baba Yaga is a very famous fairy tale.
00:35:42.120 Personage.
00:35:43.340 All children know her. 1.00
00:35:45.260 And she's a terrible witch. 1.00
00:35:49.100 That has some characteristic of Vedic Kali, 0.97
00:35:54.060 The goddesses of death.
00:35:56.480 Of course,
00:35:57.000 She was criticized and demonized by the Christian church.
00:36:01.100 Yes.
00:36:02.120 Well,
00:36:02.600 The Slavonic Vili and Greek nymphs were also demonized, right?
00:36:07.320 Yes.
00:36:08.320 But Vili,
00:36:09.280 In Russian,
00:36:09.780 Rusalka,
00:36:11.040 Were very different from Baba Yaga.
00:36:12.980 They were symbols of the natural spirits first.
00:36:18.200 And many centuries after become the demons of dead women in the rivers.
00:36:24.340 So it is a romantic story and not archaic myth.
00:36:30.120 Well,
00:36:31.800 In your view,
00:36:32.840 Do you think because of the religious demonization of the feminine during that era,
00:36:38.080 Which was more in balance with the masculine and feminine as it should be,
00:36:42.000 It ultimately led to an imbalance between the sexes? 1.00
00:36:45.960 Oh,
00:36:46.240 No,
00:36:46.480 No,
00:36:46.680 I don't think so.
00:36:47.580 I think this problem has another origin.
00:36:51.500 Social and politics.
00:36:53.460 But it is important.
00:36:54.860 The feminization, 0.89
00:36:55.840 It is a very important problem of the modern world.
00:36:58.260 I agree.
00:36:58.960 At one time,
00:37:00.300 Our European women remembered and they honored their fertility as a sacred gift.
00:37:04.960 But now it seems we take it for granted if we even have children at all.
00:37:09.060 Maybe this low birth rates are a symptom of us being cut off from the knowledge of a natural order,
00:37:14.680 Nature,
00:37:15.320 Fertility,
00:37:15.980 And our ancestors.
00:37:17.160 What do you think?
00:37:19.000 Yes,
00:37:19.520 I agree that ancient women, 1.00
00:37:22.740 Our ancestors honored their fertility.
00:37:26.500 It was an old tradition.
00:37:28.480 It was just naturally.
00:37:30.360 For example,
00:37:31.740 In Tsarist Russia,
00:37:33.780 Families consisted of 10 or 12 persons.
00:37:39.460 My mother was the elder daughter,
00:37:45.300 And she had three brothers and one sister.
00:37:48.220 So five or six children were just normal.
00:37:53.980 But now the situation is absolutely different because this tolerance for homosexualism is very dangerous. 0.99
00:38:05.220 And the scientists of the 20th century discovered that the main reason is contraception and aborts that kill millions, millions of childs in the pregnant and pregnant.
00:38:22.600 And one of my friends calculated that much more child people were killed in pregnant than they died in the first and second world war.
00:38:39.280 Wow.
00:38:40.460 Yes.
00:38:41.340 So this is a catastrophe.
00:38:42.960 And now we try to influence anyway.
00:38:48.640 But indeed,
00:38:49.280 This is a big problem.
00:38:50.380 Even for me,
00:38:51.000 For example,
00:38:52.100 Because my first two wives, 1.00
00:38:54.580 They didn't have children.
00:38:56.040 So this is a very personal drama.
00:38:57.740 And I think that you understand what it is.
00:39:01.140 Yes,
00:39:01.640 I do.
00:39:02.240 I know.
00:39:02.520 I'm always thinking,
00:39:03.220 How do we get women to have more babies? 1.00
00:39:06.560 Yes,
00:39:07.120 But the problem is not only to make babies.
00:39:10.180 Of course not.
00:39:10.900 Of course,
00:39:11.240 That's a mental thing.
00:39:12.080 We need to change the civilization itself.
00:39:15.520 You know,
00:39:16.020 In Russia,
00:39:16.560 There is a movement to protect children and to live in big families.
00:39:22.480 It is called
00:39:23.000 It's kind of town life.
00:39:26.140 In villages.
00:39:29.000 Very interesting.
00:39:30.260 Very interesting.
00:39:33.640 Part of modern Russian life.
00:39:36.880 So maybe sometimes we'll speak about this.
00:39:40.300 Sure.
00:39:41.200 Well,
00:39:41.620 Today when people hear the word Aryan,
00:39:43.760 They think all kinds of things.
00:39:45.360 So what is Aryan? 0.76
00:39:47.080 What does it mean to be an Aryan?
00:39:50.660 Well,
00:39:52.020 Historically and linguistically,
00:39:54.760 Aryan means,
00:39:56.140 Noble,
00:39:57.380 Aristocratic.
00:39:59.720 You know,
00:40:00.000 Unfortunately,
00:40:00.680 Unfortunately,
00:40:02.180 Aryan culture
00:40:03.800 Was discreditated
00:40:06.340 By
00:40:07.700 Nazi
00:40:09.140 German regime.
00:40:10.940 So if you
00:40:11.800 Say Aryan 0.90
00:40:12.920 Nowadays,
00:40:13.640 They think that you are Hitlerist.
00:40:15.380 Sure.
00:40:15.600 But yes,
00:40:16.560 But indeed,
00:40:17.280 To be Aryan means to be a noble, aristocratic, brave, clever person, with good genetics.
00:40:26.460 And I have told you that Indo-European peoples were not only Aryan.
00:40:33.880 There were Slavs, Nordic Slavs, Finnish and Turkish people, and so on.
00:40:41.320 So I should say that today, we have a Aryan myth. 0.96
00:40:47.680 We can use this world in positive matter, but not to be extremist in this question.
00:40:58.480 Well,
00:40:59.360 As we conclude, please share your website details so people know where to find the material you have available.
00:41:04.120 Yes, you just find Atene, it's A-T-E-N-E-Y point R-U. 0.83
00:41:13.300 That's the link to my website.
00:41:20.220 There is an English webpage in this portal.
00:41:25.980 So there are not very much publications, but there are some very important ones.
00:41:33.020 Well, I really appreciate your time today.
00:41:35.680 I know it's challenging in another language, but it's great to speak to a fellow Slav.
00:41:40.340 So thank you, I appreciate it.
00:41:41.700 Thank you very much, Lana.
00:41:43.660 You're a very kind person and clever woman.
00:41:48.100 I'm very pleased.
00:41:49.660 I also recommend all our listeners to visit Tuilev's website and click into the art gallery,
00:41:54.900 where you'll find lovely, pagan-esque Slavic art available as print reproductions.
00:41:59.760 It's in Russian, so click around a bit to see everything.
00:42:02.680 And since Tuilev is a Russian art and classical music enthusiast,
00:42:06.180 be sure to see his YouTube compilation about old Russia's aboriginal paintings.
00:42:10.380 We'll provide the link with this interview.
00:42:12.780 It's interesting how, yet again, America is in an ideological conflict with Russia.
00:42:17.780 Except this time, it's not about the fear of communism, but of traditionalism.
00:42:22.340 Not too long ago, the world watched as America joined forces with the Soviets
00:42:26.740 to slaughter innocent German national socialists.
00:42:30.120 For America, the fear of national socialism was bigger than communism.
00:42:34.020 So what will it be this time?
00:42:36.240 Will America join with Germany to slaughter innocent Russian nationalists, 0.99
00:42:40.220 dropping white phosphorus bombs on St. Petersburg, 1.00
00:42:42.820 burning women and children alive because they didn't accept gay porn? 0.99
00:42:46.700 And isn't it interesting how the left only wants socialism if it's a world-based socialism, 0.99
00:42:52.680 not a nationalist one?
00:42:54.060 Name one country on the planet that has a right-wing dictator or a truly fascist government.
00:43:00.640 You can't.
00:43:01.520 You can't because this is the ultimate threat to the global powers.
00:43:05.180 Why?
00:43:05.980 Because there are economic principles within fascism that work to build a strong,
00:43:10.940 successful, independent nation,
00:43:13.300 especially if the nation is unified by the same folk consciousness.
00:43:17.220 The left works to stop this at all costs.
00:43:20.220 Do people ever question why?
00:43:21.780 I, too, used to think fascism meant total oppression and leads to mass murder
00:43:26.400 because that's all I heard from the left all the way to the right.
00:43:29.700 People scream fascism, fascism,
00:43:31.620 but don't actually understand what it means economically or socially.
00:43:35.920 I hope to do a program on this very soon.
00:43:38.440 For all of you that didn't get enough from this interview,
00:43:40.940 find 2LV's compilation of writing called The White World in My Heart for a deeper understanding.
00:43:46.400 Sometimes with a language barrier, it's difficult for people to get out all their thoughts.
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