When not working on conferences, Gary is organizing and running tours to Egypt, Peru, Bolivia, Stonehenge and other sacred sites. He is the PR agent for a number of best-selling alternative authors and helps to promote conferences such as CPAC, Awaken Aware in the U.S., and Megalithomania.
00:00:30.000This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.
00:01:00.000He's the PR agent for a number of best-selling alternative authors and helps to promote conferences such as CPAC, Awaken Aware in the U.S., and Megalithomania.
00:01:10.700When not working on conferences, he's organizing and running tours to Egypt, Peru, Bolivia, Stonehenge, and other sacred sites.
00:02:21.480Wow. So where does your drive, your energy come from?
00:02:24.220Well, I kind of have phases, what I would call office time, when I'm at home booking lots of media interviews for my clients and preparing tours and working out the best ways to inspire people on the tours because it's really something a bit deeper than just going and visiting.
00:02:45.260And I always get a lot of buzz going on when I'm talking to radio show hosts and magazine editors, TV producers, because I get to discuss my passions with them and more often than not share experiences.
00:03:01.620And then they tell me they've experienced similar things so we can compare notes.
00:03:06.540So the pictures, yeah, coming together nicely.
00:03:12.000My personal research is connected to all of the trips and the radio show hosts I book my clients in because I get to know them personally and develop friendships and then visit them and travel around the world.
00:03:27.560So it's all very nicely interconnected, which definitely is making life a lot of fun.
00:03:32.480And you also just returned from the USA, right?
00:03:34.660So how did it feel on an energetic level compared to Europe?
00:03:38.780Well, I've just got back from the West End and then stopped by New York.
00:03:44.880And I spent 10 weeks in the US and Peru at the end of last year.
00:03:49.400So I kind of got used to the US last year and always enjoyed being there.
00:03:54.720I mean, I am fortunate in that I get to spend time with people that are trying to inspire others and running events and sort of putting our heads together and trying to move things forward, really.
00:04:06.800Because we got to a certain point with the, you could call it the alternative movement by acting and media in a certain way.
00:06:55.140Well, I ended up giving a three and a half hour lecture at James's because a lot of these subjects are very complicated and you want to try and express it in a way that different people understand the point you're trying to make.
00:07:06.720So I'll just try and condense things a bit today and get to the really juicy bits is probably the approach.
00:07:16.300So how did we lose our connection with the universe and with God?
00:07:21.260Well, what I'm looking at is the sort of modern way of life compared to these ancient societies.
00:07:30.860Henrik's spoken to her a couple of times.
00:07:32.560And it's not about going back to the Stone Age.
00:07:35.440It's about how can we live and work in a more harmonious way with the planet and each other.
00:07:44.340So taking the best bits of what we used to be and integrating it into something that's more realistic.
00:07:52.560And cities are certainly responsible for cutting a lot of people off, I think, from the natural environment because that's where I would say I sort of charge my soul by spending time in nature.
00:08:05.440So that's a very easy way that anyone that's living in a city can just get out more.
00:08:44.920And you can get a charge of energy once you've sort of sensitized yourself, which we can hopefully discuss a bit.
00:08:52.900That ties into the spiritual connection side of it.
00:08:57.000Then I think people will start getting addicted to it as I do.
00:09:01.400So I go out every day, just have my bare feet and spend some time in nature.
00:09:05.360And I've been kind of running an experiment on it for my research because it's the time spent in nature and sort of tuning into the world around us that you can then use at these ancient sites to get some quite profound epiphanies.
00:09:22.360So what we're really talking about is a kind of a two-part process where we work on ourself and our consciousness to, you could say, a higher vibration.
00:09:37.920And then you take yourself to these ancient sites.
00:09:41.740And then they become – it's a two-way process rather than just you going there and saying,
00:09:47.420oh, well, that's wonderful, and taking a photograph, there's some kind of interaction that starts happening once your consciousness is more aware of the world around you.
00:09:57.120And that's when these places can really start talking to you.
00:10:02.040And you're saying the energy is still really strong today, even in the ancient sites.
00:11:40.120It's also plausible that some people may be disconnected from God the source because of maybe certain behavior in another existence or a past life.
00:11:48.940My understanding, and I did have a bit of an epiphany about it, was that you don't – I know a lot of people like to look into past lives and things.
00:12:01.060But the way that the system was shown to me was that we come down here with a clean slate.
00:12:05.900This is why we don't remember past lives because there's too much trauma and things to cope with in this life.
00:12:12.060So you really don't want to be remembering everything that happened before.
00:12:15.280So I try and stay away from going into that side of things too much.
00:12:20.360So it's more about my research is releasing what's happened to us in this lifetime.
00:12:27.200And that's why I've got all these sort of different methods that I'm now working with.
00:12:31.820And yoga is certainly a very powerful tool that can help many people and sound healings, I think we'll talk about.
00:12:42.060So it's more of working on what we've been doing in this life, releasing blockages.
00:12:47.280And I think what we really need to do, if we're looking at a consciousness shift happening around the planet, which is a popular subject this year, well, what does that mean?
00:13:00.920And to me, that means moving from a fear-based consciousness where we sort of stop ourselves doing things that we love because of what ifs, what if this happens?
00:13:13.980Well, I've sort of dismissed that way of doing things because normally they don't happen.
00:13:19.420Then what happens instead is that you have a fantastic experience and meet some great people.
00:13:25.300So we've got to move from this kind of fear-based way of looking at the world up into the, and you call it the heart, I call it heart-based consciousness or being centered in our meridian or chakra system.
00:13:40.280And once you're in a sort of heart space and thinking, thinking of others, becoming more aware of others, not necessarily putting yourself first all the time, that's when life gets a bit more exciting.
00:13:58.280Do you think everyone has a destiny or is that something that we each create on our own?
00:14:04.780I think we come down here with a purpose.
00:14:08.880We've certainly come down here with something that were big things that we wanted to do or lessons to learn.
00:14:16.480There was a book title that I normally like to reference, and it was called A School Called Earth.
00:14:22.140So from that perspective, there's certainly things to learn.
00:14:26.460And as we begin to free our mind from the constraints that we've been put in, that's certainly how it felt to me with a sort of normal view of the world.
00:14:37.000It's a very restrictive view, so you need to sort of free your mind a bit more to greater possibilities.
00:15:28.440I spent a long time there, and I just started to feel that it was soul-destroying.
00:15:32.880So we need some kind of practical way of getting people from that situation, because that obviously pays the bills, into a situation where they can do what they love, and that also pays the bills.
00:15:47.880So I've got quite a few thoughts on that.
00:15:52.980And, um, the sort of practical basis that I've come up with is, it's not a good idea to obviously just, uh,
00:16:02.380throw your job in if you've got a rent and children to support.
00:16:07.060So I think the sort of practical way of going about things is if there's something that you've really got a strong passion about that you'd love to do,
00:16:15.180is to research that, first of all, in the small amount of time that you've got available,
00:16:21.020and then go about a good way of, of, um, making it something more concrete.
00:16:27.480So you slowly start to evolve your own business, or perhaps, I mean, some people don't want to work by themselves.
00:16:35.420So there might be a friend, or perhaps you can, you can connect with somebody, um, across the internet.
00:16:41.580So you could form a partnership, and then you've, you've got somebody to work with.
00:16:45.540Because a lot of the projects I work on are collaborations, because we've all got our different strengths.
00:18:08.700And, and out of that came the company, because I was just so determined.
00:18:13.800So you, so you need to really work on your willpower and do everything you can.
00:18:18.900Um, and then hopefully over time, you can slowly build up something that will eventually turn into a business that replaces the job that perhaps you're not enjoying so much.
00:18:30.620Do you also think that if there's a changing paradigm happening right now, that some jobs are going to become outdated and other new jobs will arise?
00:18:47.840Um, well, I always used to, when I was in the office world, get, get bored, very bored with things after a year or 18 months.
00:18:55.560I just couldn't see how I could do the same thing, um, for ages.
00:19:00.320Um, and I hope with the, the consciousness shift that's happening, and there is definitely something happening, I'm, I'm confident enough to say that it's not all just sort of woo woo or talk.
00:19:11.860The internet is the big reason for it, because it's enabling, um, like-minded souls to find each other all around the planet, share ideas, and the information flow, um, and speed of events now compared to 20 years ago.
00:19:26.860I mean, it's just tremendous what we accomplish in a few months would have taken years before, so there's certainly something happening on the planet, and there's a lot of people, I feel fortunate to know many of them, that have got the same goal of moving, um, into a more sustainable way of being, because it's quite clear that we can't go on with our old bad habits and lack of respect for the environment.
00:19:52.140I mean, that's one of my big, um, motivational things.
00:19:55.980Well, and the other part of that is, if you work at one of those companies, quit.
00:20:01.580Don't, don't support it, don't be a slave to that, and I think the universe will reward you, and other doors will open up.
00:20:08.060So it's about not being such a chicken and taking a risk, you know, I hear so many people complaining in their jobs and complaining all the time, it's like, well, then do something about it.
00:20:17.260Well, that's it, yeah, we've certainly got to, we've got to act now, um, the point of waiting for somebody else to fix the problems that we see, I think we went past that, we went past that a few years ago, is when I decided to step out of the shadows.
00:20:32.500We've got to take responsibility for ourselves, and if there's something that we feel strongly about, we've got to try and do something about it.
00:20:40.540It's no good just sitting on the sidelines anymore.
00:20:43.880So how would one go about finding what, what is their destiny?
00:20:47.780Let's say they have no clue, there's nothing that really inspires them, uh, they're, they're not really activated into that yet, that part of themselves.
00:20:54.960How would they go about awakening their own self to find their life path?
00:21:00.540Well, that's where perhaps some of the experiences at the ancient sites I've had could help.
00:21:05.960Um, because I certainly feel that my travels have allowed me to find myself more.
00:21:11.260And something that, that's an ongoing process.
00:21:14.300I think there's still a lot more that I can learn.
00:21:17.040But yeah, getting in touch with yourself, um, which is part of the, the spiritual reconnection theme.
00:21:23.760Um, and developing our intuition, and I, I believe it's a skill that everybody has, um, generally credited to ladies because they're perhaps a bit more sensitive because men are, are told, ah, we're supposed to be the, the kind of harder of the two.
00:21:39.720But, but actually, if you increase your sensitivity, it does get to a point where it provides you with a huge amount of strength.
00:21:48.080Um, that's a, so it's a bit of an oxymoron when, when men are thinking about being sensitive, because actually they'd be even stronger if they kind of go down that road.
00:22:01.280So, um, developing your intuition, which yoga, I mean, it's just helped me in a tremendous way.
00:22:09.860So I came out of my second yoga class a completely different man because I'd build up all of this, what it was stress, um, depression because I wasn't doing something that I loved.
00:22:20.500And then, and there was anger in there and the, the yoga is a good way to release it.
00:22:26.480So if, if people find themselves in stressful situations or around people that are angry, you've really got to work on a way to, to keep yourself, um, cleansed.
00:22:37.160So do you think that that's mostly a physical thing?
00:22:39.160Because I think some people, they think that yoga is almost a spiritual experience when really it's a, a physical release that happens.
00:23:04.820Um, so I, I think she's probably right with that, that idea because when you get stressed, you get this kind of tight feeling in your stomach.
00:23:12.980And sometimes people get terrible pain.
00:23:15.100Um, if they've had a buildup of stress, so there needs to be some, some way of releasing that.
00:23:20.560And, and the idea, if we say, oh, well, well, that person's an angry person.
00:25:21.460It's just going to be a small sort of practical guide, um, spirit, about spiritual reconnection and, and positive steps that we can implement.
00:25:30.820Um, with pretty minimum effort as well.
00:25:34.220So what was your waking up process like?
00:25:38.180When did you come into a lot of these topics or spirituality in general?
00:25:41.780Did you grow up around it or did this come later?
00:25:49.780Um, just had a couple of friends I could kind of talk to, but I had various, um, what I would call awakenings.
00:25:56.180There was a, there was a big one at 17 and I ended up going out to the local libraries once I'd suddenly realized that life was a bit more interesting than I'd been taught at school.
00:26:07.140I'll get 10 books out of one library and that was the maximum.
00:26:10.220So I go over to the next library and get another 10 books out.
00:26:13.540Um, and it was at that point I found, um, Robert Bavowell and Graham Hancock's writings, who I'm now, um, feel very fortunate to count amongst my friends and clients because they were some of my original inspirers, um, almost 20 years ago now.
00:26:32.940So I kind of had these, these points where I'd absorb a lot of information and then perhaps sort of go back to a more sleepy state of consciousness and work in an office.
00:26:45.340And then about three years ago, my intuition said, go to yoga.
00:26:50.140And thankfully I started listening to it by that point.
00:26:53.220And that was where the real big shift happened.
00:26:56.820I started the PR company traveling around the world, which led me to, to these amazing experiences in Egypt, um, helping to run tours in Egypt, sharing group experiences with people.
00:27:11.540And, and, and at that point, I started to find out about, um, sound and the effects of, uh, sound on our consciousness because I'm, I'm more into the, um, experiential side now.
00:27:28.780Left, left, left brain kind of, um, information gets us to a certain point, but if somebody's trying to work on themselves, they've really got to have some kind of experience.
00:27:42.780And this is why, um, I'm working on so many conferences around the world, which provides an opportunity, not only to, to meet the authors that people love, but being the company of other like-minded souls.
00:27:57.780I mean, many of these conferences that I've had the privilege of working on feels like the spiritual family coming back into one place.
00:28:05.780And this was one of the most empowering things that happened to me in 2010 when I went to my first conference, Megalithomania in Glastonbury.
00:28:15.780And before that, I'd been the sort of, what I call the arm, arm chair investigator, had interests in the mysteries of life and ancient civilizations, but I was sort of viewing it from afar.
00:28:26.780And once I was in the company of all these other people in Glastonbury, suddenly I had friends to talk to that had read the same books, watched the same documentaries, been to the same places.
00:28:38.780And, and the isolated Gary that felt very, um, alone and sad about things suddenly had all these amazing people to discuss my passions with, and it was incredibly empowering feeling.
00:28:51.780Um, so, so I'd certainly encourage people if they've ever thought about going to conferences.
00:30:53.780So, so that and the, the water quality, um, ancient sites is definitely a way that I've found that we can really reach people, these power places around the planet.
00:31:07.780You go there and it just basically activates you or what's the inner working process when you go to a sacred site?
00:31:14.780Well, let's, um, discuss one example, which I think really kind of cuts to the heart of it.
00:31:21.780And that's, um, Luxor temple in Egypt, which is one of my very favorite places because it's so, so powerful there.
00:31:30.780And, um, well, we talk about it in terms of, uh, energy present, but the, the state of consciousness in Egypt, I would say is a, a higher vibration, um, than Europe.
00:31:43.780And the, and the U S overall, it, it definitely feels different there.
00:31:47.780You see an extra little twinkle in people's eyes, even the, the cats and things or awake.
00:31:54.780And, and so, so you've already got a sort of a higher vibration.
00:31:58.780And then you go into one of these, um, temples and they're just incredible.
00:32:02.780There's a huge obelisk sitting at the entrance with these 30 to 40 feet tall statues.
00:32:08.780And one thing that I think perhaps a bit misunderstood about Egypt, even at the entrance to Egypt, the temple of Abu Simbel, you've got these huge statues.
00:32:19.780But they, when you look at the expressions on their face, it's just ever so peaceful.
00:32:24.780And they've got their hands resting on their knees.
00:32:26.780And it's almost like they're, they're meditating.
00:32:28.780So it really gives you this sort of peaceful feeling when you're there on the ground.
00:32:33.780It's not, not a sort of, um, warlike feel, um, to it at all.
00:32:40.780And one of the things that I'd noticed in the temples, um, in Egypt, because I was walking through barefooted, was that where they've put ramps or, um, steps in, that there was a lot more energy in the ground at the top of the ramp to the bottom.
00:32:57.780So it seemed like they were symbolizing on the ground with a ramp where there was a higher energy present at the top.
00:33:04.780So I was walking through, um, Luxor temple with a good friend of mine and we walked up, there's a huge ramp and then there's a courtyard following it with all these amazing statues.
00:33:17.780So it's all lit up beautifully in these yellow lights and it's just a magical place.
00:33:23.780And so we got to the top of this ramp and I said to my friend, well, here's this, this is the biggest ramp out of any of the temples that I've come across.
00:33:31.780I said, well, this is a good place, um, to see what we can feel coming in through our feet because there's this huge ramp there.
00:33:38.780So it should be marking a difference in the level of consciousness that's available.
00:33:42.780So she said, okay, so he's standing at the top of the ramp.
00:33:47.780And the important thing is that you're actually stopping and then you're, you're reaching out.
00:33:54.780So you're sensing what's around you because this is something that a lot of us don't do.
00:33:57.780We're busy and we just run past things.
00:33:59.780So just stopping and feeling what's present is a big part of this process.
00:34:06.780And then allowing yourself to, to open up to what's available.
00:34:10.780So we did this and instantly I felt this huge energy rushing in through my feet, up my legs.
00:34:18.780And I was looking at my hand and the, um, in between the crease of the thumb and forefinger had started to twitch because there was so much energy coming into my body.
00:34:29.780And I was thinking, thinking to myself, wow, is there really so much energy coming into my body that's making my hand twitch?
00:34:38.780And as I was thinking that my friends says to me, wow, there's so much energy coming into my body.
00:34:48.780So maybe this isn't just all in my head and there's something tangible here.
00:34:51.780And that's, that's one of the things I've been enjoying is when you're running tours, that you can share these experiences with different people and get their perspectives.
00:35:02.780So it's not just, um, delusional Gary going off in into one, something that we're sharing as a group.
00:35:10.780And so it makes it a lot more tangible.
00:35:12.780And then after the experience, because the normal rational thing to do is question the weird things that happen.
00:35:20.780And then you kind of talk yourself out of it.
00:35:23.780Oh, well, it wasn't quite surreal as I was thinking.
00:35:36.780Um, well, I might be guilty of enjoying being a bit sort of heady sometimes.
00:35:42.780But I've certainly had experiences in the Great Pyramid where there was so much energy when I opened up to what was around me that I got scared by what was coming into my body
00:35:54.780and kind of had to talk myself into, um, going with the flow of the experience.
00:35:59.780And I know that some of my friends have had to leave temples if I've, cause it can be, um, quite emotional.
00:36:23.780I was even talking to James, uh, Gilliland about it because some of the temples have been moved in Egypt.
00:36:30.780So, so I've got various research and friends that work with ley lines and earth energies and things.
00:36:37.780But if they've actually moved the temple from its original location and it's still very powerful, then it would seem to suggest that there's something else going on as well.
00:36:47.780Um, but earth energies are, are certainly a big part of many of the, the ancient sites.
00:36:53.780Um, they, they seem to know sacred places and I, I kind of liken it, um, to a thinning of the veil.
00:37:02.780So normally there's the kind of the material world and the other side that we will all return to at some point, um, before reincarnating.
00:37:12.780And at some of these ancient sites, the gap between those two worlds is a lot smaller than normal.
00:37:19.780So you can almost peer through the veil.
00:37:21.780Um, and that's when some strange experiences are possibly going to happen.
00:37:26.780So do you think it was designed that way by the gods or do you think that it happened over time because of the people that were located on that piece of property?
00:37:35.780Well, I think, um, there was certainly lots of sensitive people around.
00:37:41.780Um, they were more in tune with their environment is something that we know.
00:37:44.780And that's, that's a fairly obvious thing to suggest.
00:37:47.780They were more in tune with the natural world.
00:37:50.780They needed to go hunting to know the seasons for planting crops and things.
00:37:55.780And so they were probably sensitive to these places, um, much like the way that I'm starting to find out about probably.
00:38:04.780And that's by, by just getting myself into a better place, um, emotionally, physically, and from a nutritional point of view that the sensitivity is growing.
00:38:14.780So you can tune in into these places and then they probably developed some kind of technology to amplify these natural effects.
00:38:25.780So I think geology has also got a lot to do with it.
00:38:28.780The rock strata, um, they could amplify the effects and use those, those effects for various different purposes.
00:38:36.780It's not like there's a one size fits all, um, explanation for all the ancient sites.
00:38:41.780I think there was lots of different purposes for them.
00:38:49.780Well, from what we see, it started at a high point of, um, what we'd probably call a spiritual understanding today and gradually devolved over time.
00:39:00.780Um, so, so that's, could tie in with, um, the Yuga cycles of consciousness, which I've had a, a couple of clients on your show discussing and the confidence I've just got back from.
00:39:15.780It, it does kind of explain why we've had these amazing civilizations that were, were dedicated to something a bit more than the, the latest new car.
00:39:25.780Um, so that's, that's certainly one good explanation.
00:39:29.780There's, there's a kind of idea out there that, that we wanted to go into a sort of male dominated left brain society so that we could, we could understand ourselves better.
00:39:41.780Um, that's certainly one idea, but, but what's happening now is that we need to move away from the kind of male domination imposing ourselves on the world.
00:39:54.780And, and interacting in a more harmonious way, which is what they were certainly doing in Egypt.
00:40:00.780And, and also the Stonehenge landscape where I spend a lot of time.
00:40:05.780There's, it's just covered in amazing sites all around the, all around the countryside in Wiltshire.
00:40:12.780Um, and we'd be taking some people around there next year.
00:40:16.780So, and then in America, there's these interesting, um, sites up in New England.
00:40:23.780That's one of the next places on my list.
00:40:27.780Well, I've got a good tour guide over there.
00:40:30.780Um, that takes people around all the sites because it does appear, whoever the Megalith builders were, um, they did make it at least to the east coast of the states.
00:40:40.780And there's certainly powerful places like Sedona, um, that are worth visiting that, that can help people's, um, consciousness expand.
00:40:49.780I had an amazing time there last year.
00:43:13.780And in fact, the more, more I've seen, the more I realize that there is to see.
00:43:19.780I mean, there's amazing things I'd love to, to do with my life.
00:43:24.780But, and that's the reason that we probably have reincarnation.
00:43:27.780There's too many to do everything in this lifetime.
00:43:29.780So I need to come back and do a few different things in the next, next one.
00:43:34.780Um, but there was one experience that I wanted to, to share with your listeners to try and paint a bit of a picture about where we can get to.
00:43:43.780Um, cause I think we're getting a little short on time.
00:43:46.780And that was, if we go back to, um, to Luxor temple in Egypt, when we were feeling this energy flowing through our bodies.
00:43:55.780Um, so, so we spent a little time tuning in there, but I, I already knew that there's the inner sanctum.
00:44:02.780Some people call it the Holy of Holies at the end of the temple.
00:44:05.780And that was one of the most powerful places in the temple.
00:44:09.780And the year before, when there was a normal level of tourism, there'd been about 30 or 40 people there.
00:44:14.780So I hadn't even been able to, to tune in.
00:44:17.780But this time it was slightly, slightly after the Egyptian revolution.
00:44:22.780And when I walked into this, um, chamber, there wasn't any tourists there whatsoever.
00:44:29.780So I sat down and gradually the people, um, that were kind of in our meditation group that I'd been leading.
00:44:36.780We'd had a few interesting experiences and these people slowly filtered in and we formed a circle and had a meditation there.
00:44:46.780And, um, and I'd already tuned into the effects of sound on our consciousness.
00:44:53.780If you, if you vibrate the body using tones, it does help to, um, lift your level of awareness and consciousness.
00:45:03.780So I was quite keen to implement, um, some of the understandings that I'd had in the Great Pyramid in our little group in Luxor Temple.
00:45:13.780So I sort of slowly encouraged the group to start toning just very quietly to see if it was appropriate.
00:45:19.780And the group all started to join in and we gradually raised the level of sound.
00:45:24.780And it does, um, vibrate with the stone in Egypt.
00:45:28.780You get this kind of resonance effect.
00:45:30.780And, and what ended up happening was we had a group out of body experience.
00:45:36.780And when I was doing the talk, um, for James in the U S I thought, well,
00:45:43.780perhaps I can make this a bit more real for people than just giving Gary's perspective.
00:45:48.780Cause again, it's quite easy to, to be, um, delusional sometimes.
00:45:53.780So I wrote to a couple of the people that were on in this group with me when we had this out of body experience.
00:45:59.780So I just wanted to read a couple of quotes just to give people an idea of, of what, what I've found today.
00:46:06.780And so one, one guy called Amadeus said, uh, well, Luxor was a particularly strange one for me in a good way.
00:46:14.780I felt more than any other site that it contained its own energy.
00:46:19.780While we were in there, I felt very disconnected from the outside, even knowing how busy it was right outside.
00:46:25.780This culminated in the group meditation we had in the heart of the temple.
00:46:29.780I felt very much like almost I'd gone through a cave system and that the experience I had while meditating was the secret to be found deep inside.
00:46:38.780And then my other, uh, good friend Petra said,
00:46:42.780Having walked barefoot with my friend Gary on these sacred grounds, um, not knowing about the idea of Schwaller de Lubitz,
00:46:51.780which your, your previous guest John Anthony West talks a lot about, um,
00:46:55.780not knowing about Schwaller's idea of sacred architecture and the perfect man in the temple at this time,
00:47:01.780I gathered there with a small group of a handful of wonderful and spiritually open people with the intention of doing a short meditation.
00:47:09.780We sat down in the circle without much hesitating and it seemed everybody knew where his exact place was.
00:47:15.780And within less than microseconds, I felt literally catapulted out of my body, flowing into the wide light and heavenly realm of another dimension.
00:47:25.780Feeling like paradise and being connected with everything what is, was and ever will be, just bliss.
00:47:32.780Consciousness returning back to where it is infinitely free and where its true home is, infinity.
00:47:39.780Peacefulness, love, a state of being you never want to leave again.
00:47:44.780But it was not the first time that I've experienced this mind blowing state of existence.
00:47:49.780Existence has already happened in a similar way before, for example when lying in the resonance box in the king's chamber of the Great Pyramid for the first time in my life.
00:47:59.780Maybe you could also call it a cosmic orgasm in a non-physical way, when all becomes one in the highest sense we can be aware of.
00:48:08.780To my opinion, the purpose and ability of ancient sacred sites and incarnated sacred men and women all over the world is to support the human soul to gain higher reconnection and insults.
00:48:21.780Insights, sorry, when being approached in a humble and unexpected loving and grateful attitude in order to make them learn and understand that love is all that is.
00:48:32.780Having been blessed with this experience, life will never be the same as before.
00:48:37.780And that was basically where I went to as well.
00:48:46.780And it was just the most empowering feeling being connected into something suddenly greater than the individual state of consciousness.
00:48:57.780So from that point onwards, there's kind of two ways of gaining information that I'm aware of.
00:49:05.780There's the book learning and listening way of obtaining information.
00:49:10.780And then there's the way that some of the great minds have obviously accessed information like Einstein and Tesla.
00:49:26.780So some of these systems like yoga, chanting, mantras, acupuncture because they're always trying to work out.
00:49:35.780Well, how do they know where all the acupuncture points are on the body without knowing the interconnectedness of each part of the body?
00:49:42.780Well, from my understanding, somebody must have connected into this place of knowing, knowing the deep truth.
00:49:50.780And they've got a sort of download, you could call it, or had an epiphany and a clear insight to how the body is all interconnected.
00:49:57.780So if you put a pin in the bottom of the foot, it's going to relieve pressure in somebody's head because the meridian goes all the way up the body.
00:50:06.780So when you're in this place of knowing, it's just an incredibly powerful feeling.
00:50:12.780And it's not something that you're sort of there for ages, but it is something that you can get to and get an insight about and a feeling.
00:50:21.780And it's something beyond words and time and space and all of that.
00:50:25.780It's just an experience you have to have.
00:50:28.780And what I gathered from this experience was if your listeners have watched a Star Trek program called Star Trek Deep Space Nine,
00:50:40.780in that there was a race of beings called the Changelings.
00:50:44.780And what they would do is they would morph into human form, interact with the Star Trek crew.
00:50:51.780They'd go back to their home planet, and then they dissolved into this sea of their people.
00:50:57.780So it was like an ocean of people, but they still had an individuality in that ocean.
00:51:03.780And that's what this experience was like for me.
00:51:07.780I was my consciousness out of my body in a sea of consciousness, aware of myself and aware of all that is,
00:51:17.780or as much of it as I could be capable of seeing at the time.
00:51:21.780And the feeling of bliss and unconditional love, I mean, if I just think about it,
00:51:28.780it makes me want to get a bit teary-eyed because it was such a powerful feeling.
00:51:32.780So am I concerned about death? No, because I know that's where we return to.
00:54:24.780But the oneness I think happens when you manage to get yourself into a more open way of being and start to resolve some of the issues that you're probably referring to there.
00:54:38.780So the people that would be more likely to connect with each other sort of say telepathically are the ones that have already done the inner work.
00:54:48.780Because that's what we're really talking about, working on ourselves to become more empowered, stop being held back by the sort of old system that says, oh, you must have this sort of education to run your own business.
00:55:04.780Or you must have done this studying for all your life.
00:55:07.780Well, actually, if people have got a genuine passion for something and they research it in their own time, I think some of those people are as equally entitled to be doing things than people with solid education.
00:55:24.780If it's something that you love doing, then definitely encourage people to find their way.
00:55:30.780So I don't think we have to worry about connecting to people, which I call a different vibration.
00:55:37.780We just need to try and reach as many people as possible and get into this more loving place, you could call it, or certainly a place where we put others first or where we think about others rather than just ourselves.
00:55:53.780Well, the service to others thing, this is a big issue because at what point does service to others stop being something beautiful and becomes abusive because I personally have seen in this alternative research realm, seeing people who complain when an author charges for a book or their lecture or a website.
00:56:13.780They complain and say, you can't charge for the truth, but they don't understand how much goes into it and how much that person has to spend and devote their time.
00:56:23.780But meanwhile, they'll just take and take and take from that person and not give anything back and they have no problem complaining.
00:56:30.780Well, there is a big – well, there's certainly a group of people that think that everything should be free and that's a way to solve the world's problems.
00:56:43.780I mean, if my clients didn't charge anything for their books, how are they going to afford to pay for their house and the research that they need to do to write?
00:56:51.780Yeah, you're shooting the messenger, you know, choking the messenger, give me the truth.
00:58:18.780And Nate, James Gilliam's producer, and I were rather impressed.
00:58:22.780And also, they gave a lot of the food that was left over at the end of the day, I think, either to homeless people or people that were having a very hard time.
00:58:32.780So, if you know that you're earning lots of money, if you went into that shop and you're of a good spirit, you pay more than the average price.
00:59:11.780And I don't mean giving also financially, but maybe if there's some authors that you really respect or, you know, I don't know, musicians even, and the show is for free.
00:59:22.780It's about sending them good energy, good thoughts.
00:59:27.780Well, one of the first things that I learned was that if you do reach out to your favorite authors in the alternative world, you're more likely to get a reply.
00:59:36.780So, if you've got questions about their research or you want to compliment them on how they've helped you, they want to hear about it because it helps them know that they're on the right tracks and what they're doing is valid.
00:59:51.780And giving emotionally, financially, all the different ways.
00:59:58.780Don't look at it from the kind of short-sighted perspective.
01:00:01.780So, if you're giving a lot of love to one person and they don't understand and so you feel hurt by it, so then you sort of shut down.
01:00:11.780But if you just keep, if you give in the right way and do that, then that love will be returned to you from other people.
01:00:20.780There's a sort of grander cycle and it's connected to karma, I would say.
01:00:26.780But it is important to do things from a practical perspective.
01:00:33.780And as you become more aware, it does become easier to judge who are the people that we want to surround ourselves with that are good impacts on our life.
01:00:43.780Because if we surround ourselves with the right people, with the right attitudes, it does make life a lot easier and a lot more fun.
01:00:51.780So, we really need to work out who's good for us and who's having a bit of a sort of detrimental effect or perhaps making us feel down.
01:01:01.780And any parasites that come along, it's about being good about recognizing it, ignoring it and letting it go.
01:01:07.780And perhaps trying to help them in a way that you can.
01:01:13.780I mean, I don't close the door on anyone.
01:01:16.780And you, of course, as you work in these areas, it's not good enough just to get yourself into a place where you're happy.
01:01:26.780You start to see how the world works in a more positive light because I believe it is a benevolent universe and everything's there for us once we realize.
01:01:50.780So, I should say quickly that my kind of approach to things is take myself to these ancient sites and try and see what I can actually experience at them.
01:02:02.780I'm looking into the experiential side because there's so many different theories about the Great Pyramid.
01:02:10.780And it's like, well, what actually happens when we go inside the Great Pyramid?
01:02:16.780So, I've been in there about a dozen times now.
01:02:19.780And I'm lucky enough to have got friendly with Patricia and Yusuf Awan that live just near the Sphinx in Cairo.
01:02:28.780And that's who I'm going to be hosting some tours with next year.
01:02:31.780And so, when I was inside the King's Chamber, the first thing that Yusuf said to me was the sarcophagus, which it's known as the granite box.
01:02:52.780And I'd learned this technique when I was in one of my yoga classes because what I'm actually, a lot of my research is around combining the ancient wisdom that survived in texts in India and the East.
01:03:07.780And what can I learn from those understandings that actually I can use when I'm at sacred sites in Egypt and other places.
01:03:16.780And so, I've learned this technique of toning because there's a very particular technique to resonating the body.
01:03:24.780If you like to om, it's really about getting the whole body vibrating.
01:03:29.780It's not just about creating a sound in your throat.
01:03:34.780And I learned this technique where if I was toning the whole of my, sort of along the length of my spine up into my head and the top of my mouth had started to vibrate when I was creating this sound in my stomach or base chakra area.
01:03:53.780And when it happened in the yoga class, I thought, wow, that's an interesting feeling.
01:03:59.780And I went up and asked the yoga teacher and she didn't really know much about it.
01:04:04.780So, when I found myself in this resonance box in the king's chamber, I thought back to that experience that I'd had in the yoga class and wondered what happens if I combine resonating my whole body inside this box inside the king's chamber.
01:04:21.780And so, I recreated the sound and what happened was the whole of the king's chamber started to vibrate in sympathy with the sound I was making.
01:04:33.780And so, we've just had some amazing experiences in there.
01:04:40.780The main thing to say is you enter the Great Pyramid in one state of consciousness and if you're going to use sound or meditate in there, you leave feeling completely different.
01:04:52.780And Yusuf and I, the first time we went in this year, when we came out, we felt like we could actually float off of the ground because the sound had cleansed our bodies.
01:05:06.780Well, if your listeners have ever gone to a gong bath or used sound bowls, the sound that's kicked off of those is also very capable of cleansing the body.
01:06:28.780You can feel the sound waves in the king's chamber, work out different techniques that affect your level of awareness.
01:06:37.780And then you can take those techniques to other sites, temples.
01:06:41.780And in fact, it's got to the point now where I've started to see ancient sites around the world are tuned in with a sound connection.
01:06:52.780I've found this amazing place in Peru when I went there with Brian Forster, who Henrik's interviewed.
01:06:57.780There's a site called Moray that your listeners can look up on Google Images.
01:07:03.780I'd suggest looking for the aerial photographs, these huge concentric circles.
01:07:08.780And I've even found a dolmen structure that's near in the Stonehenge Avebury landscape that's got a head-shaped hole that you can put your whole head in.
01:07:23.780And it's almost like a megalithic helmet.
01:07:26.780And that was one of my recent discoveries.
01:07:28.780And so, when I've toned inside there, I've had a very strange experience where I actually saw like an energy coming out of my mouth because I had this crystalline sandstone resonating around my head is the only conclusion I can come to how I saw something like that.
01:07:46.780But these are deep, profound experiences, and you connect to something greater than you, and it's very empowering.
01:07:56.780And I think Yusuf put it the best way because we were watching people coming in and out of the King's Chamber, because it's basically an empty room with a box in it.
01:08:08.780So, we were watching these people coming in and out, and he said, this room, it can be nothing.
01:08:15.780If you've not got your state of awareness and consciousness into a place where you're getting a thing from it, it doesn't give you the hit or epiphanies.
01:08:26.780But if you are working on yourself and you go in there, it could be everything because you could be connected into this place of knowing and all that is.
01:08:36.780And I think that's my best explanation for what it means to me.
01:08:44.780Yes, I certainly recommend your listeners to have it on big speakers if they have it, have them with the bass turned up because there's a feedback or kind of reverb effect in the King's Chamber.
01:09:01.780And that's what really, when you're inside, it affects you on a very tangible level.
01:09:06.780So, you don't just want it on small speakers for the best effect.