Radio 3Fourteen - The Artist Against the System

00:00:00.000 We'll be right back.

00:00:30.000 This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.

00:00:45.920 Welcome back to Radio 314.

00:00:48.300 This is Lana.

00:00:49.380 Thank you for downloading this program.

00:00:51.440 I'm happy to present John Rappaport, who has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years,

00:00:56.480 writing articles on politics, medicine, and health.

00:00:59.400 John has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world.

00:01:07.480 Welcome, John. How are you today?

00:01:09.180 Very good, thank you. Good to be here.

00:01:10.900 Yeah, I'm glad to be speaking with you.

00:01:12.180 I was actually very excited that you agreed to come on because of your life experiences and your body of knowledge.

00:01:17.420 So before we get into the question of who runs the world and what we can do about it,

00:01:21.940 let's begin with your background and what sparked your awakening of what really lies beneath the surface.

00:01:26.400 Okay, well, I started working as a reporter in 1982 in Los Angeles for L.A. Weekly.

00:01:34.480 It was a lark at the beginning, really.

00:01:37.880 I had a friend who worked there.

00:01:40.080 They were looking for an article of a certain kind,

00:01:43.180 and I knew a source who had that information,

00:01:47.180 and I interviewed them, and they put it on the cover, and they paid me a check,

00:01:50.660 and I thought that was pretty easy.

00:01:53.480 So I continued to write articles for the weekly,

00:01:58.180 and that began to spread,

00:02:00.360 and I found that I could publish articles in other newspapers and magazines,

00:02:06.000 and I did that for about six years.

00:02:10.180 And then I saw that some of the material that I became interested in,

00:02:17.980 you know, you can only cover stories for so long if you have some brain cells working

00:02:22.400 until you ask deeper questions.

00:02:25.740 Who's running this?

00:02:27.420 Who's behind this?

00:02:30.080 And so forth.

00:02:31.320 I found that I had some difficulty with getting my stories into print,

00:02:37.480 and, of course, people have to remember that in those days there was no web,

00:02:43.900 and if you published a story, you know, you had to pitch it to an editor first,

00:02:49.000 and then you'd get an assignment, and then you'd go write it, and you'd send it in,

00:02:53.320 and this whole process, depending on whether you're writing for a newspaper or magazine,

00:02:58.600 could take as long as, you know, a month or two before you actually saw your story in print.

00:03:06.480 So I then started to write books.

00:03:10.920 The first book came out in 1988 called AIDS, Inc., Scandal of the Century,

00:03:17.600 and that was followed by a book about the Oklahoma bombing in 1995.

00:03:21.660 And then I was working with a publisher, doing a lot of different things, including a radio show.

00:03:32.700 And finally, in 2000, 2001, I decided, okay, it's time to find out what the web is really all about.

00:03:42.480 And so I started my website, No More Fake News.

00:03:45.440 And just the thrill of the word processing function of computers was enough to hook me.

00:03:55.800 You know, I was basically a reporter with a typewriter, and so this was incredible.

00:04:01.860 And then on top of that, the idea that I could actually publish my stories a few seconds after I wrote them

00:04:08.540 and wouldn't have to worry about arguing with editors on content and subject, I was off and running.

00:04:19.140 And that was just before 9-11, and I've been at it ever since.

00:04:25.280 Wow.

00:04:25.880 Well, you've conducted interviews with Matrix insiders, as you've called them,

00:04:30.280 who know how the major illusions of our world are put together.

00:04:33.340 But let's first define what the Matrix is, and then we can dive in and discuss what the major illusions are within it.

00:04:40.300 Sure.

00:04:41.720 It's basically a hypnotic trance.

00:04:43.980 It's like a tap dance between the world and people, we, who live in it.

00:04:49.280 And there are various layers and levels, and you could make a list of subjects,

00:04:54.680 and you would be looking at those levels on political, social, economic, military, intelligence, energy, medical, food,

00:05:03.900 corporations, government, on and on, the players behind the scenes.

00:05:13.240 And then, however, even deeper than that, and this is really the subject of one of my products called Collections,

00:05:25.040 The Matrix Revealed, by what principles is reality itself defined for us?

00:05:33.660 What are the artists, in heavy quotes, doing to design what most people take to be reality?

00:05:45.020 How would they operate this machine?

00:05:48.860 And what does that do to people?

00:05:51.860 What does it do to their minds?

00:05:53.280 What does it do to their spirit?

00:05:55.740 What does it do to their psyche?

00:05:58.160 And so forth.

00:05:59.060 So, this investigation, which lasted many years, really, even starting before I became a reporter,

00:06:09.660 was looking at the displacement of power and energy away from the individual

00:06:18.500 and onto a group or groups of people who had figured out a way to, as I used to put it,

00:06:29.060 paint a gigantic mural and call it reality and thereby extract power from individuals.

00:06:40.600 So, that's kind of the kernel of the answer.

00:06:43.900 It can get a lot more complicated than that, but that's really where we would start.

00:06:47.520 So, what are the ways in which these matrix craters manufacture reality?

00:06:53.680 Well, this goes back as far as history, recorded, unrecorded on the planet.

00:07:06.280 On one level, they are creating what I call a necessary illusion.

00:07:13.160 They're saying to the populace, whether they're the priest class in ancient civilizations

00:07:20.280 who have claims that they, you know, rule by divine right,

00:07:28.360 or they have special knowledge of esoteric matters,

00:07:33.240 whether they're politicians, kings, etc.

00:07:36.220 They say, here is the way not only the world but the universe works

00:07:45.280 and we can show it to you in some fashion,

00:07:49.560 but you have to trust us and believe in us.

00:07:52.020 And if you don't, then you'll never be able to see what's really going on.

00:07:56.820 So, you have to take us on faith.

00:07:59.560 And once you do, then everything will be revealed to you.

00:08:04.260 So, they begin sort of on that basis, of course.

00:08:09.080 They also have armies.

00:08:10.700 They also have police.

00:08:12.040 They also have rules.

00:08:13.360 They also have staged events,

00:08:17.340 just like the events that we've seen in Aurora, in Sandy Hook, in Boston lately,

00:08:25.500 to convince people that there are certain enemies out there that need to be conquered.

00:08:33.940 In order for that to happen, everybody has to pull together and sacrifice

00:08:37.440 and give up their freedom and so forth.

00:08:39.400 So, these formulas are very, very old.

00:08:42.720 But underneath that, what I discovered is something to me which is far more profound,

00:08:50.700 and that is the replacement of the power of the imagination of the individual in various ways

00:09:00.480 and the substitution for it of the imagination of people that are basically part of secret societies.

00:09:10.640 And it's gotten to the point and has really been the case for a very long time

00:09:19.540 where people don't even believe that imagination is very important

00:09:24.360 or that it really has much of an impact on the world

00:09:26.680 or that one could use it to change the world.

00:09:30.600 It's a toy for children.

00:09:32.420 You play around with it.

00:09:33.400 You grow up and now you're an adult

00:09:35.400 and you have to make your way in the world

00:09:38.300 and that was a great deal of fun, but that's over.

00:09:43.480 And my experience, many experiences, told me that it was quite the opposite.

00:09:52.360 That the formula of the secret society, as I call it in my 1999 book,

00:09:57.780 The Secret Behind Secret Societies,

00:09:59.380 is to substitute the imagination of perverse artists

00:10:05.240 who paint reality and force it on people

00:10:09.700 and convince people to accept it,

00:10:13.880 the substitution of that for the limitless creative power of a person's own imagination,

00:10:20.800 and that is the power to invent reality.

00:10:24.220 This has been sprinkled throughout history

00:10:28.280 here and there, now and then.

00:10:33.140 Groups have understood this.

00:10:35.140 Individuals have understood this.

00:10:37.900 Most notably, I would say, in early, early Tibetan civilization.

00:10:44.400 But that has been overwhelmed eventually,

00:10:47.620 that power of the individual to create reality

00:10:51.320 in far-reaching terms

00:10:53.840 by, you know, a class, an elite class,

00:10:59.800 who doesn't want that power to leave their own hands.

00:11:05.020 Do you think that some of those people

00:11:06.760 are also in the entertainment industry

00:11:08.660 who know these principles?

00:11:10.180 And they're using mind control, basically,

00:11:12.600 to prop up this matrix through their films

00:11:14.680 and through their music.

00:11:15.960 A lot of this stuff lacks imagination,

00:11:18.340 if you know what I mean.

00:11:19.000 Yes, I think that's true.

00:11:23.140 I think that is absolutely true.

00:11:24.680 I mean, most of the people involved in, you know,

00:11:29.280 the image factory of Hollywood

00:11:30.880 are just trying to make a living or succeed.

00:11:35.440 And so they try to sniff which way the winds are blowing

00:11:39.100 and the trends are going,

00:11:40.420 and they go along with whatever they think

00:11:42.280 is going to help them succeed.

00:11:43.660 Just like in any sort of conspiracy,

00:11:47.260 the overwhelming majority of people

00:11:48.680 have no clue about what they're doing or why.

00:11:52.020 Everything is compartmentalized.

00:11:54.580 At the top, yes, I absolutely think

00:11:58.320 that there is manipulation and mind control going on.

00:12:02.660 By overwhelming people with what looks like,

00:12:09.240 you know, you walk into a movie theater

00:12:11.000 and there's some sort of a science fiction

00:12:14.140 extravaganza thriller,

00:12:17.520 and you look at all the special effects

00:12:20.120 and you look at all the ridiculous acting

00:12:22.360 and you look at the stupid plot lines,

00:12:24.800 but you're drawn in to a degree.

00:12:27.120 The movies are telling people this is energy.

00:12:38.540 We represent energy.

00:12:40.020 And if you sit in the theater in the dark

00:12:41.480 for an hour and a half,

00:12:42.560 you will get vicariously a piece of that energy

00:12:46.720 and you can walk out feeling better

00:12:49.140 than you did when you walked in.

00:12:51.020 And that formula is, again,

00:12:56.780 a complete reversal on the truth,

00:12:59.360 which is that the individual has unlimited energy

00:13:02.800 of his own, her own,

00:13:04.500 if he can tap into it,

00:13:06.520 if he can find it,

00:13:07.480 if he can invent it, create it.

00:13:12.320 But Hollywood is energy by proxy.

00:13:16.620 You're not doing it as the audience.

00:13:19.280 It's happening to you.

00:13:20.740 That's the mode.

00:13:22.900 And so the people who put together entertainment,

00:13:25.160 whether it's music or movies or television,

00:13:28.100 their whole impetus is to blast you into a realm

00:13:35.340 where you think the only place

00:13:37.420 you can really get this kind of energy

00:13:39.120 is in the middle of a gigantic concert hall

00:13:42.800 or in a movie theater

00:13:43.920 or sitting in front of a big flat screen

00:13:46.920 in your living room

00:13:47.920 that otherwise life is prosaic,

00:13:50.840 it's everyday,

00:13:51.720 it's a struggle,

00:13:52.420 it's mundane,

00:13:53.100 there's nothing you can really do about it,

00:13:54.860 but you can get a glimpse

00:13:57.060 of what the image makers can give you

00:14:00.060 if you pay your money.

00:14:02.880 And also,

00:14:04.180 there's, of course,

00:14:05.360 a perversion of any sense of morality,

00:14:08.640 any sense of

00:14:09.480 what I would call

00:14:12.640 real humanity

00:14:16.980 that pervades

00:14:19.440 many of the productions

00:14:21.080 of the Hollywood industry.

00:14:24.040 And that further degrades people

00:14:25.620 and gets them to think that,

00:14:27.080 you know,

00:14:27.480 life itself is basically

00:14:29.300 not a very pretty picture

00:14:31.400 and doesn't even have

00:14:32.660 the potential to be.

00:14:34.660 So, yes,

00:14:36.040 I agree with you.

00:14:36.880 Hollywood is definitely involved

00:14:38.440 and has been

00:14:39.280 ever since they discovered

00:14:41.000 that people would walk

00:14:42.000 into a movie theater

00:14:42.960 and sit down

00:14:43.920 and pay money

00:14:44.420 to watch images

00:14:45.380 flickering on the screen.

00:14:46.440 In your view,

00:14:47.280 do you think there ever was

00:14:48.220 an era of magic

00:14:49.220 on this planet

00:14:49.840 when people were

00:14:50.660 imaginative artists?

00:14:51.840 Well,

00:14:55.280 you know,

00:14:56.580 I talk about that

00:14:57.860 in some of my

00:14:59.480 audio presentations.

00:15:04.140 And sometimes

00:15:05.620 I'm talking from metaphor.

00:15:08.740 Sometimes I'm talking

00:15:09.980 from what I truly believe

00:15:11.400 to be reality.

00:15:13.160 I think there was a time

00:15:15.560 beyond recorded history

00:15:18.600 when that was

00:15:21.440 the case

00:15:22.260 in certain places

00:15:23.280 where people

00:15:24.940 through

00:15:26.080 the power

00:15:27.320 of imagination

00:15:28.180 and

00:15:29.920 their own experience

00:15:32.340 with their own imagination

00:15:34.220 and faith in it

00:15:35.580 were able to produce

00:15:37.440 far more

00:15:38.420 in the way

00:15:39.140 of

00:15:40.300 new realities

00:15:44.400 than we see today.

00:15:47.400 This society

00:15:48.120 has become

00:15:48.560 a technological machine.

00:15:51.440 exceedingly rational

00:15:52.820 and it's succeeded

00:15:54.080 brilliantly

00:15:54.780 in a number

00:15:55.320 of respects

00:15:56.080 but it's left

00:15:58.400 behind

00:15:59.260 that

00:16:00.800 magical organ

00:16:03.500 you could call it

00:16:04.420 that people

00:16:05.500 used to be

00:16:06.180 a lot more aware of

00:16:07.460 and could exercise

00:16:08.780 with a lot more power

00:16:10.040 than now.

00:16:11.820 So yes,

00:16:12.420 I think there were

00:16:13.080 times and places

00:16:14.300 where that was

00:16:15.020 much more prevalent

00:16:15.980 than it is now

00:16:17.260 but it wasn't

00:16:19.840 a trick

00:16:20.460 it wasn't like

00:16:22.360 well if you learn

00:16:23.180 to stand on your head

00:16:24.440 everything's going

00:16:25.520 to change.

00:16:27.560 It was a way

00:16:28.860 of life

00:16:29.500 it was

00:16:30.740 people lived

00:16:32.420 drenched

00:16:33.760 in imagination

00:16:34.760 and they still

00:16:37.040 can

00:16:37.520 as individuals

00:16:39.720 they still

00:16:40.980 can

00:16:41.380 it's still

00:16:42.080 here

00:16:42.500 it's still

00:16:43.480 in the psyche

00:16:44.180 it's still

00:16:44.900 that potential

00:16:45.740 it never

00:16:46.220 goes away.

00:16:48.020 There's nothing

00:16:48.620 that can be done

00:16:49.240 to take it away

00:16:50.040 and that's one

00:16:51.080 of the reasons

00:16:51.600 why we see

00:16:52.700 such an extraordinary

00:16:54.080 effort on the part

00:16:55.300 of the controllers

00:16:56.040 to invent

00:16:59.300 manufacture reality

00:17:00.760 for people

00:17:01.620 and to

00:17:02.940 make it as

00:17:05.040 awesome

00:17:05.600 involving

00:17:08.020 and even

00:17:08.800 frightening

00:17:09.260 as possible.

00:17:10.720 Well from your research

00:17:11.620 who does run

00:17:12.900 the planet?

00:17:15.080 Well

00:17:15.720 I would say

00:17:17.140 a number

00:17:18.200 of groups

00:17:19.060 I've called

00:17:21.180 them cartels

00:17:22.340 they

00:17:25.920 compete

00:17:29.340 with each other

00:17:30.080 they cooperate

00:17:31.140 with each other

00:17:31.960 they're organically

00:17:33.560 evolving

00:17:34.380 it's not just

00:17:36.660 six guys

00:17:37.260 sitting in a room

00:17:38.080 it is six guys

00:17:40.020 sitting in a room

00:17:40.800 but

00:17:41.100 there are a lot

00:17:42.440 rooms

00:17:43.020 but over time

00:17:45.200 what these people

00:17:46.320 have discovered

00:17:47.000 is that it

00:17:48.560 pays them

00:17:49.480 to cooperate

00:17:50.220 more with each

00:17:51.280 other than to

00:17:51.880 compete

00:17:52.340 and

00:17:54.480 they have

00:17:56.060 front

00:17:56.440 organizations

00:17:57.300 which

00:17:57.900 some of which

00:17:58.520 are quite visible

00:17:59.460 counsel

00:18:00.440 on foreign

00:18:00.920 relations

00:18:01.480 trilateral

00:18:02.140 commission

00:18:02.700 Bilderberg

00:18:03.260 group

00:18:03.720 CIA

00:18:04.680 you could

00:18:08.240 even

00:18:08.480 take that

00:18:09.280 into

00:18:09.780 certain

00:18:10.920 inner

00:18:12.500 sanctums

00:18:13.120 of the

00:18:13.620 FDA

00:18:14.140 and the

00:18:15.400 American

00:18:15.660 Medical

00:18:16.020 Association

00:18:16.800 you can

00:18:18.600 take that

00:18:19.240 into

00:18:19.880 the

00:18:20.220 Federal

00:18:20.460 Reserve

00:18:21.000 you can

00:18:22.400 take that

00:18:22.900 into

00:18:23.300 the

00:18:23.740 International

00:18:24.340 Monetary

00:18:25.120 Fund

00:18:25.520 you can

00:18:25.860 take that

00:18:26.300 into

00:18:26.480 the

00:18:26.700 Tavistock

00:18:27.360 Institute

00:18:27.840 in England

00:18:28.980 where they

00:18:29.660 have done

00:18:31.500 a considerable

00:18:32.360 amount of

00:18:32.780 research on

00:18:33.800 psychological

00:18:34.420 warfare

00:18:34.960 and mind

00:18:35.660 control

00:18:36.200 there are

00:18:39.500 these groups

00:18:40.420 they were

00:18:44.600 formed

00:18:45.240 originally

00:18:46.520 to collect

00:18:49.060 certain

00:18:49.800 people

00:18:50.440 that the

00:18:52.120 controllers

00:18:52.840 so to speak

00:18:53.620 thought

00:18:55.060 would be

00:18:56.680 beneficial

00:18:57.100 to have

00:18:57.720 in the

00:18:57.960 fraternity

00:18:58.540 so they

00:19:00.220 have a

00:19:00.520 public

00:19:00.800 face

00:19:01.240 and then

00:19:01.680 they

00:19:01.820 have a

00:19:02.180 private

00:19:02.740 inner

00:19:03.660 sanctum

00:19:04.160 these

00:19:04.500 what I

00:19:05.920 call

00:19:06.160 front

00:19:06.500 organizations

00:19:07.240 the

00:19:09.140 Vatican

00:19:09.520 also

00:19:10.520 has that

00:19:11.280 same

00:19:11.620 thing

00:19:11.920 going

00:19:12.220 they have

00:19:13.400 a public

00:19:13.800 face

00:19:14.260 and then

00:19:14.760 there are

00:19:15.240 very

00:19:15.620 very

00:19:15.960 private

00:19:16.460 dealings

00:19:17.480 and over

00:19:18.640 time

00:19:19.080 as I've

00:19:19.480 said

00:19:19.800 these

00:19:20.560 forces

00:19:21.060 become

00:19:21.760 more

00:19:22.260 cooperative

00:19:22.940 among

00:19:23.800 themselves

00:19:24.360 and competitive

00:19:25.140 and they

00:19:27.260 have

00:19:27.680 basically

00:19:28.280 settled on

00:19:29.040 an agenda

00:19:29.600 of

00:19:29.900 globalism

00:19:30.580 so we're

00:19:31.520 talking about

00:19:32.300 the whole

00:19:32.860 Rockefeller

00:19:33.580 dynasty

00:19:34.160 and how

00:19:34.880 that expands

00:19:35.820 or has

00:19:36.320 expanded

00:19:36.860 through history

00:19:37.740 in many

00:19:39.180 many aspects

00:19:40.100 of energy

00:19:41.340 medicine

00:19:41.980 banking

00:19:42.660 and so

00:19:44.300 forth

00:19:44.580 and so

00:19:44.960 on

00:19:45.160 they promote

00:19:46.880 wars

00:19:47.500 because they

00:19:48.100 know that

00:19:48.480 wars

00:19:48.880 weaken

00:19:49.340 sovereign

00:19:49.840 nations

00:19:50.400 they try

00:19:52.480 to

00:19:52.900 and succeed

00:19:53.640 in

00:19:54.020 bankrupting

00:19:55.220 nations

00:19:55.880 they want

00:19:57.660 to run

00:19:58.080 the planet

00:19:58.760 like

00:19:59.460 a town

00:20:00.960 or a city

00:20:01.780 with a

00:20:03.100 mayor

00:20:03.580 and a

00:20:04.260 bureaucracy

00:20:04.920 that's

00:20:07.060 their goal

00:20:07.700 it has

00:20:08.720 been for

00:20:09.180 a very

00:20:09.520 very long

00:20:10.080 time

00:20:10.540 so

00:20:13.260 we have

00:20:14.880 that

00:20:15.360 and I

00:20:17.900 would say

00:20:18.320 there are

00:20:18.700 still more

00:20:19.300 esoteric

00:20:19.980 layers

00:20:20.340 behind that

00:20:21.140 but

00:20:21.900 that's

00:20:22.720 certainly

00:20:23.080 good

00:20:23.340 for a

00:20:23.720 starter

00:20:24.060 and so

00:20:25.520 what you're

00:20:26.020 seeing

00:20:26.560 is

00:20:27.240 a

00:20:29.860 vertical

00:20:30.260 integration

00:20:31.940 of these

00:20:32.660 various

00:20:33.160 cartels

00:20:33.940 in the

00:20:34.280 realms

00:20:34.920 of

00:20:35.420 as I

00:20:36.480 mentioned

00:20:36.740 before

00:20:37.180 energy

00:20:37.840 medicine

00:20:39.220 money

00:20:40.060 intelligence

00:20:41.640 military

00:20:42.460 government

00:20:43.380 and

00:20:46.060 then you

00:20:46.720 have

00:20:47.020 megacorporations

00:20:48.360 also feeding

00:20:49.180 into this

00:20:49.880 they all

00:20:51.500 see

00:20:52.060 a future

00:20:53.540 in which

00:20:54.160 they control

00:20:55.240 the entire

00:20:56.460 planet

00:20:56.920 they can

00:20:58.340 feel it

00:20:58.920 they believe

00:21:00.220 it's within

00:21:00.700 their grasp

00:21:01.380 they already

00:21:02.480 control a

00:21:03.260 tremendous

00:21:03.600 amount

00:21:04.140 and they're

00:21:05.660 looking for

00:21:06.380 always for

00:21:07.120 more

00:21:07.540 and they

00:21:10.420 are kind

00:21:11.160 of a

00:21:11.400 hierarchy

00:21:11.980 that

00:21:12.460 shuffles

00:21:13.040 and

00:21:13.200 reshuffles

00:21:14.000 and

00:21:14.560 learns

00:21:16.220 how to

00:21:16.780 cooperate

00:21:17.320 among

00:21:18.140 themselves

00:21:18.700 for their

00:21:19.580 goal

00:21:20.000 yeah I

00:21:21.580 wonder about

00:21:22.200 their ultimate

00:21:22.640 goal because

00:21:23.040 it seems

00:21:23.480 like their

00:21:24.280 obsession to

00:21:25.280 manufacture

00:21:25.780 reality seems

00:21:26.700 like something

00:21:27.200 beyond something

00:21:28.020 physical

00:21:28.460 it most definitely

00:21:29.280 has to be

00:21:29.820 something esoteric

00:21:30.840 or spiritual

00:21:31.340 so what do

00:21:32.120 they know

00:21:32.580 well

00:21:35.020 this is a

00:21:37.720 fascinating

00:21:38.680 area

00:21:39.280 I'll take

00:21:41.720 you back

00:21:42.240 to ancient

00:21:43.120 Tibet

00:21:43.500 the ancient

00:21:46.360 Tibetans

00:21:47.160 before they

00:21:48.280 became a

00:21:48.900 theocracy

00:21:49.560 were the

00:21:53.280 place

00:21:53.920 or Tibet

00:21:54.760 was a place

00:21:55.460 where itinerant

00:21:56.700 teachers

00:21:58.100 rebels

00:21:59.220 from the

00:22:00.620 academies

00:22:01.480 from the

00:22:02.860 spiritual

00:22:03.300 systems

00:22:03.880 of India

00:22:04.580 wandered in

00:22:06.360 about 1500

00:22:07.140 years ago

00:22:07.940 and their

00:22:09.640 doctrine

00:22:10.200 was

00:22:11.000 extremely

00:22:12.860 radical

00:22:13.900 it was

00:22:16.200 also

00:22:16.640 somewhat

00:22:17.280 stripped down

00:22:18.320 from all

00:22:18.860 the metaphysical

00:22:19.540 baggage

00:22:20.040 of Asia

00:22:21.480 and the

00:22:22.840 principal

00:22:23.460 core

00:22:24.520 was

00:22:25.080 the

00:22:27.080 physical

00:22:27.420 universe

00:22:27.920 is a

00:22:28.280 product of

00:22:28.900 mind

00:22:29.460 beginning

00:22:34.040 of story

00:22:34.660 end of

00:22:35.040 story

00:22:35.400 there it

00:22:36.440 is right

00:22:36.820 there

00:22:37.160 they not

00:22:40.260 only taught

00:22:40.940 that

00:22:41.340 but

00:22:41.940 they

00:22:42.540 instructed

00:22:43.260 in exercises

00:22:44.300 and techniques

00:22:45.240 in order

00:22:46.600 to surpass

00:22:47.700 the

00:22:49.440 amnesia

00:22:50.320 the

00:22:51.880 creative

00:22:52.580 slash

00:22:53.260 spiritual

00:22:53.900 amnesia

00:22:54.620 in which

00:22:55.000 the

00:22:55.780 populace

00:22:56.420 found

00:22:56.900 itself

00:22:57.420 without

00:22:58.040 even

00:22:58.340 knowing

00:22:58.640 why

00:22:59.100 so

00:23:01.000 that's

00:23:01.940 what

00:23:02.120 it

00:23:02.280 led

00:23:02.600 with

00:23:02.920 you

00:23:03.100 might

00:23:03.340 say

00:23:03.680 the

00:23:04.220 universe

00:23:04.620 is a

00:23:04.960 product

00:23:05.240 of

00:23:05.440 mind

00:23:05.820 and

00:23:06.720 if

00:23:07.140 you

00:23:07.660 want

00:23:09.560 to

00:23:09.700 become

00:23:10.080 a

00:23:10.300 committed

00:23:10.600 practitioner

00:23:11.320 of

00:23:11.760 certain

00:23:12.020 techniques

00:23:12.460 and

00:23:12.640 exercises

00:23:13.260 you

00:23:14.140 can

00:23:14.300 discover

00:23:14.700 that

00:23:14.960 for

00:23:15.160 yourself

00:23:15.680 which

00:23:16.060 you

00:23:16.240 have

00:23:16.600 to

00:23:16.900 in

00:23:18.220 order

00:23:18.420 to

00:23:18.640 do

00:23:18.780 anything

00:23:19.080 about

00:23:19.480 it

00:23:19.740 and

00:23:21.860 that

00:23:22.240 was

00:23:22.980 a

00:23:24.300 revolution

00:23:24.820 such

00:23:25.940 as

00:23:26.260 the

00:23:26.440 planet

00:23:26.740 has

00:23:27.000 never

00:23:27.220 seen

00:23:27.640 for

00:23:29.080 perhaps

00:23:29.860 a hundred

00:23:30.560 years

00:23:31.120 until

00:23:32.120 it became

00:23:32.640 diluted

00:23:33.340 until

00:23:36.660 rituals

00:23:37.160 and

00:23:37.400 ceremonies

00:23:37.940 began

00:23:38.340 to

00:23:38.520 enter

00:23:38.780 in

00:23:39.080 until

00:23:39.900 a

00:23:40.140 priesthood

00:23:40.580 class

00:23:41.020 tried to

00:23:41.400 take

00:23:41.580 the

00:23:41.700 whole

00:23:41.860 thing

00:23:42.080 over

00:23:42.440 until

00:23:43.260 today

00:23:43.840 we

00:23:44.200 have

00:23:44.700 you know

00:23:47.560 a

00:23:48.440 very

00:23:48.840 watered

00:23:49.920 down

00:23:50.120 version

00:23:50.540 of

00:23:50.740 that

00:23:51.000 the

00:23:52.100 Tibetans

00:23:52.640 who

00:23:52.860 are

00:23:53.000 practicing

00:23:53.560 today

00:23:54.720 and

00:23:55.800 teaching

00:23:56.280 understand

00:23:57.360 some

00:23:57.900 of

00:23:58.060 this

00:23:58.380 but

00:23:59.560 most

00:23:59.900 of

00:24:00.120 them

00:24:00.460 view

00:24:01.080 it

00:24:01.500 as

00:24:01.980 you

00:24:03.300 know

00:24:03.620 way

00:24:05.500 out

00:24:06.120 there

00:24:06.400 over

00:24:06.680 the

00:24:06.880 horizon

00:24:07.360 a

00:24:08.140 faint

00:24:08.380 glint

00:24:08.680 of

00:24:08.880 possible

00:24:09.860 light

00:24:10.240 somewhere

00:24:10.620 in

00:24:11.260 the

00:24:11.380 future

00:24:11.720 they

00:24:12.700 are

00:24:12.840 not

00:24:13.200 nearly

00:24:13.880 in

00:24:14.880 any

00:24:15.180 way

00:24:16.120 shape

00:24:16.400 or

00:24:16.580 fashion

00:24:16.880 as

00:24:17.160 intense

00:24:17.580 about

00:24:17.940 the

00:24:18.260 practices

00:24:18.760 as

00:24:19.940 were

00:24:20.300 these

00:24:20.840 magicians

00:24:22.380 really

00:24:22.680 as I

00:24:23.040 call

00:24:23.340 them

00:24:23.620 that

00:24:24.420 existed

00:24:24.800 in

00:24:25.140 ancient

00:24:25.500 Tibet

00:24:25.880 and

00:24:27.480 that

00:24:29.340 became

00:24:29.740 an

00:24:29.920 intense

00:24:30.220 focus

00:24:30.620 of my

00:24:31.000 research

00:24:31.500 because

00:24:32.400 I

00:24:32.700 said

00:24:32.960 okay

00:24:33.300 how

00:24:33.540 far

00:24:33.840 can

00:24:34.040 we

00:24:34.160 take

00:24:34.400 this

00:24:34.700 just

00:24:36.060 as

00:24:36.220 you

00:24:36.380 asked

00:24:36.780 if

00:24:37.360 we're

00:24:37.500 talking

00:24:37.860 about

00:24:38.240 control

00:24:38.700 control

00:24:39.280 mind

00:24:40.080 control

00:24:40.500 mind

00:24:40.820 control

00:24:41.320 and

00:24:42.060 a

00:24:42.200 degree

00:24:42.560 of

00:24:42.820 manufacturing

00:24:43.500 reality

00:24:44.220 at a

00:24:44.980 very

00:24:45.320 very

00:24:45.800 profound

00:24:46.320 level

00:24:46.780 you

00:24:49.080 know

00:24:49.360 how

00:24:51.840 many

00:24:52.200 floors

00:24:53.360 are

00:24:53.700 there

00:24:54.000 when

00:24:54.300 you

00:24:54.440 take

00:24:54.640 the

00:24:54.840 elevator

00:24:55.220 down

00:24:55.640 you

00:24:56.040 know

00:24:56.180 and

00:24:56.460 when

00:24:57.980 I

00:24:58.140 came

00:24:58.420 upon

00:24:58.760 this

00:24:59.180 I

00:25:00.040 knew

00:25:00.240 that

00:25:00.440 I

00:25:00.580 had

00:25:00.740 found

00:25:01.000 something

00:25:01.520 that

00:25:02.680 would

00:25:03.000 then

00:25:03.700 it

00:25:05.220 was a

00:25:05.540 door

00:25:05.760 that

00:25:05.980 opened

00:25:06.280 for

00:25:06.580 me

00:25:06.760 and

00:25:06.900 I

00:25:07.020 said

00:25:07.280 okay

00:25:07.740 I

00:25:08.640 am

00:25:08.860 going

00:25:09.180 to

00:25:09.540 walk

00:25:09.820 through

00:25:10.040 here

00:25:10.380 and

00:25:10.660 I'm

00:25:10.880 going

00:25:11.020 to

00:25:11.140 become

00:25:11.360 a

00:25:11.540 practitioner

00:25:12.040 of my

00:25:12.940 own

00:25:13.280 for

00:25:13.640 myself

00:25:14.300 and

00:25:15.540 really

00:25:16.000 discover

00:25:16.680 as much

00:25:17.100 as I

00:25:17.400 can

00:25:17.620 about

00:25:17.880 these

00:25:18.200 techniques

00:25:18.800 practice

00:25:20.600 them

00:25:20.960 on an

00:25:22.120 intense

00:25:22.440 basis

00:25:23.000 but

00:25:24.540 also

00:25:25.100 eventually

00:25:25.920 came to

00:25:26.700 the conclusion

00:25:27.360 that

00:25:27.920 for modern

00:25:29.540 times

00:25:30.220 these

00:25:30.560 exercises

00:25:31.180 and

00:25:31.480 techniques

00:25:31.880 had to

00:25:32.280 be

00:25:32.460 reshaped

00:25:33.060 and

00:25:33.260 reworked

00:25:33.940 or

00:25:34.120 let's

00:25:34.580 say

00:25:35.020 added

00:25:35.440 on to

00:25:36.140 considerably

00:25:37.020 so

00:25:39.040 that

00:25:39.240 anybody

00:25:39.520 could

00:25:39.820 do

00:25:40.040 them

00:25:40.340 and

00:25:40.640 anybody

00:25:41.060 would

00:25:41.500 have

00:25:41.980 the

00:25:42.240 motivation

00:25:42.820 to

00:25:43.060 do

00:25:43.200 them

00:25:43.440 and

00:25:44.280 I've

00:25:44.500 been

00:25:44.620 doing

00:25:44.880 them

00:25:45.060 now

00:25:45.400 for

00:25:45.940 25

00:25:47.320 years

00:25:47.920 or so

00:25:48.380 so

00:25:49.580 I have

00:25:49.800 to ask

00:25:50.140 you

00:25:50.320 do you

00:25:50.600 know

00:25:50.800 what

00:25:51.300 did

00:25:51.420 the

00:25:51.560 Nazis

00:25:51.840 look

00:25:52.080 for

00:25:52.260 in

00:25:52.380 Tibet

00:25:52.660 in

00:25:52.900 the

00:25:53.020 30s

00:25:53.460 maybe

00:25:53.820 they

00:25:54.020 knew

00:25:54.160 some

00:25:54.340 of

00:25:54.480 this

00:25:54.720 I

00:25:56.780 think

00:25:57.020 they

00:25:57.220 had

00:25:57.740 an

00:25:58.200 inkling

00:25:58.620 you

00:26:00.400 know

00:26:00.560 the

00:26:00.700 Nazis

00:26:01.340 sent

00:26:01.740 people

00:26:02.120 to

00:26:02.380 Tibet

00:26:02.800 before

00:26:03.260 World

00:26:03.580 War

00:26:03.820 II

00:26:04.080 to

00:26:06.200 do

00:26:06.760 as

00:26:07.440 much

00:26:07.680 research

00:26:08.100 as

00:26:08.320 possible

00:26:08.780 into

00:26:09.300 A

00:26:10.020 the

00:26:11.360 myth

00:26:11.640 of

00:26:11.800 the

00:26:11.960 lost

00:26:12.360 Aryan

00:26:12.920 race

00:26:13.340 and

00:26:15.240 B

00:26:15.600 the

00:26:16.580 power

00:26:16.960 of

00:26:17.140 manifestation

00:26:17.840 and

00:26:20.700 there

00:26:22.580 is

00:26:22.900 a

00:26:23.580 trying

00:26:26.180 to

00:26:26.320 remember

00:26:26.600 the

00:26:26.820 title

00:26:27.140 of the

00:26:27.420 book

00:26:27.600 and

00:26:27.720 the

00:26:27.860 author

00:26:28.140 now

00:26:28.580 I've

00:26:30.740 got it

00:26:31.080 somewhere

00:26:31.340 in my

00:26:31.700 library

00:26:32.200 I

00:26:33.100 saw

00:26:33.460 Hitler

00:26:33.840 make

00:26:34.260 black

00:26:34.680 magic

00:26:35.060 is the

00:26:35.480 title

00:26:35.800 it's a

00:26:36.140 pamphlet

00:26:36.540 of

00:26:36.740 about

00:26:36.960 35

00:26:37.360 pages

00:26:37.940 and

00:26:39.480 I

00:26:39.600 think

00:26:39.820 the

00:26:40.080 author

00:26:40.600 he

00:26:43.280 was

00:26:43.440 an

00:26:43.600 American

00:26:43.880 doctor

00:26:44.380 who

00:26:44.760 was

00:26:44.980 in

00:26:45.340 Germany

00:26:45.800 before

00:26:46.280 the

00:26:46.520 outbreak

00:26:46.880 of

00:26:47.060 the

00:26:47.200 war

00:26:47.520 Kenneth

00:26:48.600 can't

00:26:49.280 think

00:26:49.440 of

00:26:49.540 his

00:26:49.660 last

00:26:49.940 name

00:26:50.280 at

00:26:51.960 the

00:26:52.080 moment

00:26:52.340 but

00:26:53.760 he

00:26:55.680 was

00:26:56.100 a

00:26:58.180 stage

00:26:58.880 magician

00:26:59.900 he

00:27:02.160 met

00:27:02.640 Hitler

00:27:02.980 he

00:27:03.720 met

00:27:03.920 some

00:27:04.180 of

00:27:04.300 his

00:27:04.440 lieutenants

00:27:05.080 he

00:27:05.940 was

00:27:06.100 also

00:27:06.460 an

00:27:06.720 intelligence

00:27:07.240 operative

00:27:07.840 on the

00:27:08.160 American

00:27:08.460 side

00:27:08.960 and

00:27:09.720 he

00:27:09.880 gained

00:27:10.220 access

00:27:10.680 to

00:27:11.220 Hitler's

00:27:12.260 secret

00:27:12.700 hideout

00:27:13.180 high in

00:27:13.560 the

00:27:13.680 mountains

00:27:13.960 and

00:27:14.160 he

00:27:14.320 said

00:27:14.560 that

00:27:14.740 when

00:27:14.880 he

00:27:15.020 walked

00:27:15.360 in

00:27:15.580 there

00:27:15.800 one

00:27:16.100 of

00:27:16.240 the

00:27:16.360 things

00:27:16.700 he

00:27:16.920 saw

00:27:17.260 were

00:27:18.140 many

00:27:18.640 many

00:27:19.300 practitioners

00:27:24.020 sitting

00:27:25.300 in front

00:27:25.960 of

00:27:26.260 large

00:27:28.380 posted

00:27:29.140 photographs

00:27:29.720 on the

00:27:30.080 wall

00:27:30.440 extremely

00:27:32.580 well

00:27:33.280 done

00:27:33.720 photographs

00:27:34.640 doctored

00:27:35.680 photographs

00:27:36.440 of

00:27:37.540 locations

00:27:39.000 in

00:27:39.240 Czechoslovakia

00:27:40.180 and in

00:27:42.100 these

00:27:42.340 photographs

00:27:43.060 interiors

00:27:44.340 of houses

00:27:44.940 streets

00:27:45.460 and so

00:27:45.920 forth

00:27:46.300 the

00:27:47.700 Nazi

00:27:48.140 flags

00:27:49.200 were

00:27:49.380 flying

00:27:49.940 photographs

00:27:51.240 of

00:27:51.480 Hitler

00:27:51.720 were

00:27:52.060 on

00:27:52.240 the

00:27:52.380 walls

00:27:52.920 it

00:27:54.000 was

00:27:54.180 as if

00:27:54.520 the

00:27:54.700 invasion

00:27:55.160 had

00:27:55.420 already

00:27:55.680 succeeded

00:27:56.220 and

00:28:00.080 these

00:28:00.320 practitioners

00:28:00.940 were

00:28:01.280 sitting

00:28:01.520 there

00:28:01.900 in

00:28:02.240 ships

00:28:02.560 around

00:28:02.860 the

00:28:03.040 clock

00:28:03.420 trying

00:28:05.860 to

00:28:06.200 visualize

00:28:06.540 and

00:28:06.920 manifest

00:28:07.460 this

00:28:08.380 destiny

00:28:08.900 for

00:28:09.540 the

00:28:10.560 Third

00:28:10.780 Reich

00:28:11.100 so

00:28:13.820 you know

00:28:16.820 the account

00:28:17.540 that he

00:28:17.940 gave

00:28:18.260 has been

00:28:18.680 questioned

00:28:19.220 it has

00:28:19.800 been

00:28:20.280 scoffed

00:28:21.480 at

00:28:21.640 and so

00:28:21.940 forth

00:28:22.280 Kenneth

00:28:22.640 Walker

00:28:22.960 was the

00:28:23.380 name

00:28:23.540 by the

00:28:23.740 way

00:28:23.900 of the

00:28:24.160 author

00:28:24.360 Kenneth

00:28:24.700 Walker

00:28:25.120 there you

00:28:25.500 go

00:28:25.760 very

00:28:28.340 good

00:28:28.620 and

00:28:29.380 this

00:28:31.660 is

00:28:31.820 what

00:28:32.020 he

00:28:32.180 saw

00:28:32.520 I

00:28:34.000 think

00:28:34.260 it's

00:28:34.480 true

00:28:34.880 from

00:28:35.220 other

00:28:35.540 material

00:28:36.040 that I

00:28:36.480 you know

00:28:37.900 researched

00:28:39.240 including

00:28:39.840 Peter

00:28:40.360 Lavenda's

00:28:40.980 books

00:28:41.260 on

00:28:41.620 Nazis

00:28:43.420 and

00:28:43.940 so

00:28:45.580 the

00:28:46.140 esoteric

00:28:46.780 arts

00:28:47.220 secret

00:28:48.260 societies

00:28:48.800 and so

00:28:49.120 forth

00:28:49.400 so

00:28:50.180 absolutely

00:28:50.980 the

00:28:51.700 Nazis

00:28:52.020 were

00:28:52.300 looking

00:28:52.560 for

00:28:52.780 whatever

00:28:53.020 they

00:28:53.220 could

00:28:53.340 find

00:28:53.700 in

00:28:53.860 this

00:28:54.040 respect

00:28:54.420 when

00:28:54.620 they

00:28:54.780 sent

00:28:55.020 people

00:28:55.340 to

00:28:55.540 Tibet

00:28:55.920 but

00:28:58.520 unfortunately

00:28:59.120 for them

00:29:00.640 and

00:29:00.840 fortunately

00:29:01.280 for us

00:29:01.920 most

00:29:05.180 people

00:29:05.480 when they

00:29:05.840 enter this

00:29:06.460 whole arena

00:29:07.180 of

00:29:07.640 investigation

00:29:08.680 and research

00:29:09.320 are looking

00:29:09.780 for tricks

00:29:10.380 it's

00:29:11.760 it's not

00:29:11.980 a trick

00:29:12.500 you

00:29:13.700 can't

00:29:14.340 it's

00:29:14.980 not

00:29:15.160 like

00:29:15.440 oh

00:29:15.700 well

00:29:16.020 if

00:29:16.620 I

00:29:16.780 blink

00:29:17.160 my

00:29:17.480 eye

00:29:17.960 and

00:29:18.300 you know

00:29:18.640 try to

00:29:19.080 look up

00:29:19.440 through

00:29:19.760 the top

00:29:20.360 of my

00:29:20.700 head

00:29:21.180 and twitch

00:29:22.100 my elbow

00:29:22.880 suddenly

00:29:23.460 I'll have

00:29:24.140 access to

00:29:24.800 something

00:29:25.140 that I

00:29:25.520 never

00:29:25.820 knew I had

00:29:26.880 before

00:29:27.300 it's a

00:29:28.540 life

00:29:28.900 you live

00:29:29.720 that life

00:29:30.400 you're

00:29:31.280 committed

00:29:31.620 to a

00:29:32.320 life

00:29:33.060 of

00:29:33.320 imagination

00:29:34.020 and

00:29:35.100 creative

00:29:35.920 power

00:29:36.540 to find

00:29:37.780 what

00:29:38.720 are the

00:29:39.920 limits

00:29:40.280 of your

00:29:40.700 own

00:29:40.920 creative

00:29:41.260 power

00:29:41.780 if any

00:29:42.900 and

00:29:45.240 that's

00:29:46.080 something

00:29:46.460 that

00:29:47.000 relatively

00:29:48.260 few

00:29:48.580 people

00:29:48.900 are prepared

00:29:49.460 for

00:29:50.000 it's a

00:29:51.800 lifestyle

00:29:52.140 that's

00:29:52.800 for sure

00:29:53.160 yeah

00:29:54.320 and

00:29:54.580 it's

00:29:55.080 really

00:29:55.340 not

00:29:55.620 a

00:29:55.780 style

00:29:56.160 even

00:29:56.480 you know

00:29:57.560 it's

00:29:57.920 it goes

00:29:59.520 beyond

00:29:59.940 any

00:30:00.220 style

00:30:00.720 I would

00:30:01.400 say

00:30:01.700 maybe

00:30:02.640 that's

00:30:02.860 why

00:30:02.960 they try

00:30:03.240 and beat

00:30:03.560 out

00:30:03.720 imagination

00:30:04.260 out of

00:30:04.620 kids

00:30:04.860 right away

00:30:05.260 in school

00:30:05.700 yeah

00:30:06.380 they do

00:30:06.760 this

00:30:07.020 you see

00:30:07.380 and even

00:30:07.860 the word

00:30:08.300 style

00:30:08.740 you see

00:30:09.140 because

00:30:09.580 what are we

00:30:10.300 confronted

00:30:10.700 with

00:30:10.920 in society

00:30:11.520 today

00:30:11.920 a whole

00:30:13.540 series

00:30:13.940 of lifestyles

00:30:14.960 any one

00:30:15.460 of which

00:30:15.840 you can

00:30:16.200 pick

00:30:16.440 from

00:30:16.740 as if

00:30:17.080 you're

00:30:17.280 shopping

00:30:17.660 for clothes

00:30:18.220 in a

00:30:18.500 store

00:30:18.820 but

00:30:19.900 as you

00:30:20.240 pursue

00:30:20.540 these

00:30:20.980 you know

00:30:21.260 as you

00:30:21.560 go

00:30:21.780 into

00:30:22.020 them

00:30:22.280 oh

00:30:22.500 I think

00:30:23.240 I'll do

00:30:23.600 this

00:30:23.940 and I'll

00:30:24.420 look this

00:30:25.120 way

00:30:25.400 and I'll

00:30:25.760 act that

00:30:26.360 way

00:30:26.660 and I'll

00:30:26.940 take a

00:30:27.280 role

00:30:27.560 in the

00:30:27.920 grand

00:30:28.260 stage

00:30:28.700 play

00:30:28.980 and so

00:30:29.260 forth

00:30:29.600 you know

00:30:30.460 people

00:30:30.780 by their

00:30:31.280 30s

00:30:31.700 or 40s

00:30:32.260 they reach

00:30:32.600 a dead

00:30:32.920 end

00:30:33.220 you know

00:30:34.660 they say

00:30:35.040 god

00:30:35.260 this was

00:30:35.620 some sort

00:30:36.180 of an

00:30:36.620 illusion

00:30:37.640 they get

00:30:38.660 very

00:30:39.020 you know

00:30:39.640 morose

00:30:40.440 about it

00:30:41.440 and yes

00:30:44.460 this is also

00:30:45.160 why

00:30:45.660 in schools

00:30:46.880 imagination

00:30:48.120 is pounded

00:30:49.100 out of

00:30:49.380 kids

00:30:49.680 immediately

00:30:50.240 because

00:30:50.780 you know

00:30:51.640 there's

00:30:52.980 nothing there

00:30:53.800 that has

00:30:54.640 anything to

00:30:55.100 do with

00:30:55.360 imagination

00:30:55.820 and you're

00:30:56.460 sitting in

00:30:56.780 the classroom

00:30:57.400 hour after

00:30:58.400 hour after

00:30:59.000 hour after

00:30:59.540 hour day

00:31:00.020 after day

00:31:00.500 after day

00:31:00.980 and when you

00:31:02.660 emerge on the

00:31:03.280 other side

00:31:03.940 you know

00:31:04.380 they are

00:31:05.700 hoping that

00:31:06.520 you're going

00:31:06.940 to be

00:31:07.380 kind of a

00:31:07.980 machine

00:31:08.380 that fits

00:31:08.940 into the

00:31:09.440 larger machine

00:31:10.300 of the

00:31:11.480 society that

00:31:12.160 they've

00:31:12.440 designed

00:31:12.900 and I

00:31:14.280 don't know

00:31:14.500 whether you're

00:31:14.940 familiar with

00:31:16.260 the original

00:31:16.860 Summerhill

00:31:17.600 school in

00:31:18.660 England

00:31:18.940 but this

00:31:21.580 was a school

00:31:22.080 that was

00:31:22.440 designed on

00:31:23.040 the opposite

00:31:23.540 principle

00:31:24.060 that if you

00:31:24.660 let kids

00:31:25.200 exercise their

00:31:25.980 imagination

00:31:26.420 to the

00:31:27.100 fullest

00:31:27.520 without

00:31:29.480 interference

00:31:30.080 without

00:31:30.560 guidance

00:31:31.080 without

00:31:31.560 props

00:31:32.300 without

00:31:32.760 adults

00:31:33.440 but just

00:31:35.320 you know

00:31:35.800 enough

00:31:36.280 supervision

00:31:36.940 so that

00:31:37.680 they didn't

00:31:38.200 end up

00:31:38.760 killing each

00:31:39.500 other

00:31:39.800 extraordinary

00:31:42.160 things would

00:31:42.880 happen to

00:31:43.340 children

00:31:43.680 I'd agree

00:31:44.540 I'd agree

00:31:45.300 and they

00:31:46.560 did

00:31:46.820 and they

00:31:47.120 do

00:31:47.360 you wrote

00:31:49.020 a terrific

00:31:49.440 piece I

00:31:50.000 think which

00:31:50.280 fits in

00:31:50.640 perfectly

00:31:51.040 with this

00:31:51.500 subject

00:31:51.840 called

00:31:52.140 the

00:31:52.300 artist

00:31:52.720 against

00:31:53.120 the

00:31:53.340 system

00:31:53.700 I

00:31:54.160 wanted to

00:31:54.460 read a

00:31:54.700 small

00:31:54.880 portion

00:31:55.240 of it

00:31:55.520 but everyone

00:31:55.960 really should

00:31:56.480 go read

00:31:56.960 this in

00:31:57.280 its entirety

00:31:58.000 okay

00:31:59.240 it goes

00:31:59.700 the trend

00:32:00.260 now

00:32:00.700 under

00:32:01.020 various

00:32:01.480 guises

00:32:01.860 is the

00:32:02.480 collective

00:32:02.980 we need

00:32:03.900 to realize

00:32:04.380 that the

00:32:04.680 collective

00:32:05.040 no matter

00:32:05.480 how it

00:32:05.880 is defined

00:32:06.400 or shaped

00:32:06.840 or covertly

00:32:07.640 hidden

00:32:07.960 is seeking

00:32:08.740 to marginalize

00:32:09.640 the person

00:32:10.080 who imagines

00:32:10.760 and creates

00:32:11.260 new realities

00:32:11.920 the artist

00:32:12.880 is capable

00:32:13.480 to spot

00:32:14.080 the collective

00:32:14.680 he opposes

00:32:15.560 it

00:32:15.840 this opposition

00:32:16.940 can't be

00:32:17.440 settled

00:32:17.720 and resolved

00:32:18.320 with some

00:32:18.720 absurd

00:32:19.200 rainbow

00:32:19.980 philosophy

00:32:20.580 that pretends

00:32:21.220 to include

00:32:21.740 everybody

00:32:22.320 it can't

00:32:23.320 be dismissed

00:32:23.920 or merged

00:32:24.720 in a melting

00:32:25.360 lump

00:32:25.720 of happy

00:32:26.360 happy

00:32:26.740 cosmic

00:32:27.220 cheese

00:32:27.780 yeah

00:32:30.960 well

00:32:32.060 that's another

00:32:33.260 major theme

00:32:34.040 the artist

00:32:36.200 against the

00:32:36.780 system

00:32:37.140 I was

00:32:42.020 giving a

00:32:42.400 talk in

00:32:42.820 LA

00:32:43.240 and I

00:32:44.060 think it

00:32:44.320 was

00:32:44.500 1995

00:32:45.880 I had

00:32:47.980 just run

00:32:48.440 for a seat

00:32:49.020 in the US

00:32:49.420 Congress

00:32:49.880 in Los

00:32:51.540 Angeles

00:32:51.960 and

00:32:53.260 became

00:32:54.440 convinced

00:32:54.960 that the

00:32:55.380 vote count

00:32:55.880 was rigged

00:32:56.560 and

00:32:57.940 marshaled

00:32:59.700 some evidence

00:33:00.360 for that

00:33:01.260 and

00:33:03.960 so I

00:33:05.340 was

00:33:05.560 in a

00:33:07.140 bookstore

00:33:07.760 I think

00:33:08.160 at the time

00:33:08.740 in Santa

00:33:09.140 Monica

00:33:09.440 and I

00:33:09.680 was giving

00:33:09.980 a talk

00:33:10.520 and right

00:33:10.900 in the

00:33:11.120 middle

00:33:11.300 of the

00:33:11.540 talk

00:33:11.920 I was

00:33:13.780 looking at

00:33:14.180 somebody

00:33:14.480 in the

00:33:14.780 audience

00:33:15.240 and I

00:33:16.340 don't know

00:33:16.580 why this

00:33:17.040 happened

00:33:17.440 but I

00:33:19.240 said

00:33:19.600 this is a

00:33:22.900 lot bigger

00:33:23.260 than election

00:33:23.900 folks as we

00:33:24.680 all know

00:33:25.260 this is a

00:33:26.940 revolution

00:33:27.380 against the

00:33:27.940 empire

00:33:28.380 and that

00:33:30.100 phrase stuck

00:33:30.800 in my

00:33:31.120 mind

00:33:31.640 and it

00:33:33.480 brought back

00:33:34.180 to me

00:33:34.780 an unnamed

00:33:36.080 unremembered

00:33:38.380 science fiction

00:33:39.180 novel that I

00:33:39.800 had read

00:33:40.240 much earlier

00:33:41.140 in my life

00:33:42.820 that started

00:33:44.280 with a little

00:33:45.040 carpenter

00:33:46.880 working in a

00:33:48.180 little tiny

00:33:48.780 cottage in a

00:33:49.600 little tiny

00:33:50.060 town on a

00:33:50.860 planet that

00:33:51.420 was part of a

00:33:52.120 planetary system

00:33:53.220 and a

00:33:54.340 galactic

00:33:54.820 system of

00:33:56.360 what we

00:33:57.300 would now

00:33:57.660 call globalism

00:33:58.660 except it

00:34:00.240 spanned a

00:34:01.700 gigantic amount

00:34:02.380 of space

00:34:02.880 and it

00:34:04.700 told the

00:34:05.360 story of

00:34:05.940 how from

00:34:06.520 this tiny

00:34:07.040 cottage was

00:34:07.920 born a

00:34:08.680 revolution

00:34:09.200 against the

00:34:09.940 entire empire

00:34:10.700 and from

00:34:15.000 that moment

00:34:15.560 on I was

00:34:16.320 utterly convinced

00:34:17.300 yeah it is

00:34:19.080 the artist

00:34:19.500 against the

00:34:20.140 system

00:34:20.460 in the

00:34:22.120 sense that

00:34:22.720 everybody

00:34:23.320 can be an

00:34:25.360 artist

00:34:25.760 in the

00:34:27.100 widest sense

00:34:27.760 of that

00:34:28.060 term

00:34:28.420 unfortunately

00:34:31.260 most people

00:34:32.200 have a very

00:34:32.800 flattened view

00:34:33.700 of what they

00:34:34.940 want to

00:34:36.100 create

00:34:36.640 and I've

00:34:39.220 knocked my

00:34:39.640 head against

00:34:40.060 the wall

00:34:40.740 over and

00:34:42.200 over and

00:34:42.520 over again

00:34:42.960 with this

00:34:43.320 over the

00:34:43.720 years until

00:34:44.260 I finally

00:34:44.780 just became

00:34:45.380 immune to

00:34:45.920 the whole

00:34:46.220 thing

00:34:46.560 which was

00:34:47.520 this

00:34:47.840 that

00:34:48.700 somebody

00:34:49.180 would

00:34:49.580 take a

00:34:49.980 seminar

00:34:50.280 of mine

00:34:50.880 or hear

00:34:51.240 a lecture

00:34:51.620 of mine

00:34:52.140 and they

00:34:53.260 would come

00:34:53.580 back to me

00:34:54.100 months later

00:34:54.680 and they

00:34:54.960 would say

00:34:55.460 something

00:34:57.520 which I

00:34:58.880 will describe

00:34:59.640 in a

00:35:00.480 metaphor

00:35:00.860 that I

00:35:01.340 frequently

00:35:01.620 use

00:35:02.140 I said

00:35:02.780 well you

00:35:03.120 know I

00:35:03.480 was operating

00:35:04.180 a beauty

00:35:04.640 shop

00:35:05.100 and now

00:35:06.420 after going

00:35:07.260 through

00:35:07.780 you know

00:35:08.360 your material

00:35:09.180 I don't

00:35:11.240 only have

00:35:11.900 six shades

00:35:12.780 of nail

00:35:13.320 polish

00:35:13.740 I have

00:35:14.260 13

00:35:14.860 and that

00:35:16.300 has changed

00:35:16.840 my life

00:35:17.460 to illustrate

00:35:20.400 that many

00:35:21.500 people are

00:35:22.220 so completely

00:35:23.660 hypnotized

00:35:25.240 by this

00:35:25.720 culture

00:35:26.120 that if you

00:35:27.340 talk to them

00:35:28.160 about creative

00:35:28.780 power they

00:35:29.340 immediately

00:35:29.740 translate down

00:35:30.780 into something

00:35:32.420 so extraordinarily

00:35:34.040 superficial that

00:35:35.140 you almost

00:35:36.060 can't believe

00:35:36.580 it

00:35:36.740 but the

00:35:39.480 artist against

00:35:40.240 the system

00:35:40.880 is exactly

00:35:42.000 the conflict

00:35:43.560 that we're

00:35:43.960 dealing with

00:35:44.480 here or

00:35:44.980 the

00:35:45.340 revolution

00:35:47.200 that we're

00:35:48.220 dealing with

00:35:48.700 here

00:35:48.940 are you

00:35:50.400 going to

00:35:51.280 succumb to

00:35:52.180 the reality

00:35:52.800 that's presented

00:35:53.560 to you

00:35:54.200 and by

00:35:55.560 reality as

00:35:56.440 we've been

00:35:56.880 discussing here

00:35:57.740 I mean it

00:35:58.340 all the way

00:35:58.920 down and

00:35:59.720 all the way

00:36:00.280 up and

00:36:00.720 all the way

00:36:01.200 out

00:36:01.620 on all

00:36:03.300 levels

00:36:03.700 or are you

00:36:05.060 going to

00:36:05.980 find out

00:36:07.400 how you can

00:36:08.280 imagine and

00:36:09.060 invent your

00:36:09.580 own reality

00:36:10.340 again

00:36:11.420 with no

00:36:12.780 limits

00:36:13.280 whatsoever

00:36:14.680 which

00:36:16.160 way are

00:36:17.240 you going

00:36:17.540 to jump

00:36:18.060 that's the

00:36:21.840 revolutionary

00:36:22.380 decision that

00:36:23.460 people make

00:36:24.060 one way or

00:36:24.640 another

00:36:24.960 they either

00:36:27.020 surrender and

00:36:27.820 give in

00:36:28.440 and if they

00:36:30.620 give in

00:36:31.100 what they're

00:36:31.500 giving into

00:36:32.180 is

00:36:33.100 collectivism

00:36:34.940 collectivism

00:36:37.020 is

00:36:37.580 there really

00:36:40.140 is nobody

00:36:40.740 home

00:36:41.080 you're not

00:36:42.580 home

00:36:42.860 I'm not

00:36:43.400 home

00:36:43.760 anybody

00:36:44.160 listening to

00:36:44.800 this isn't

00:36:45.320 home

00:36:45.640 there is no

00:36:46.700 such thing as

00:36:47.320 the individual

00:36:47.920 it never

00:36:48.600 really did

00:36:49.320 exist

00:36:49.680 it was

00:36:50.020 always a

00:36:50.540 myth

00:36:50.820 it was

00:36:51.280 some sort

00:36:51.720 of a

00:36:52.000 fiction

00:36:52.300 that was

00:36:52.720 invented

00:36:53.180 to satisfy

00:36:56.380 the power

00:36:57.280 hunger of

00:36:59.300 certain people

00:37:00.220 but now we

00:37:01.400 have something

00:37:02.080 that is much

00:37:02.800 more humane

00:37:03.620 and much

00:37:04.380 more successful

00:37:06.340 and that is

00:37:06.960 the group

00:37:07.400 and that's

00:37:08.580 all there is

00:37:09.160 and that's

00:37:09.500 all there

00:37:09.800 really ever

00:37:10.340 was

00:37:10.820 and you

00:37:12.780 have to

00:37:13.220 learn that

00:37:13.940 and we

00:37:14.820 will teach

00:37:15.280 it to you

00:37:15.700 time and

00:37:16.220 time and

00:37:16.640 time again

00:37:17.200 until you

00:37:18.520 finally surrender

00:37:19.620 at which point

00:37:21.100 you will be

00:37:21.960 merged into

00:37:22.800 the great

00:37:23.220 cosmic

00:37:23.720 melting

00:37:24.500 cheese

00:37:25.000 of the

00:37:25.960 group

00:37:26.240 that's it

00:37:27.000 yeah this

00:37:28.020 matrix needs

00:37:28.940 you to be

00:37:29.440 in a

00:37:29.640 collective

00:37:29.980 it doesn't

00:37:30.620 want free

00:37:31.380 individuals

00:37:32.520 imagining

00:37:33.220 and creating

00:37:34.100 because then

00:37:34.680 they can't

00:37:35.060 be controlled

00:37:35.620 they're not

00:37:36.680 trapped within

00:37:37.420 the limits

00:37:38.400 anymore

00:37:38.920 exactly

00:37:40.220 exactly

00:37:41.200 and that's

00:37:42.460 the proposition

00:37:43.180 because they

00:37:45.140 really don't

00:37:45.740 have any

00:37:46.140 other alternative

00:37:46.860 to the

00:37:47.160 controllers

00:37:47.600 if they're

00:37:48.800 going to

00:37:49.200 say

00:37:49.680 and promote

00:37:52.220 and teach

00:37:53.040 and herald

00:37:55.360 the individual

00:37:57.540 as the

00:37:59.600 prime

00:38:00.140 element

00:38:00.920 you might

00:38:01.420 say

00:38:01.740 in a

00:38:03.880 cosmology

00:38:05.540 of the

00:38:06.020 present and

00:38:06.520 future

00:38:06.920 they're going

00:38:08.900 to lose

00:38:09.220 all control

00:38:09.800 the other

00:38:11.940 alternative

00:38:12.420 is the

00:38:13.680 group

00:38:13.980 the collective

00:38:14.660 that's it

00:38:15.380 melt

00:38:16.720 everybody

00:38:17.160 down

00:38:17.620 use

00:38:19.000 whatever

00:38:19.360 means

00:38:19.840 necessary

00:38:20.500 to

00:38:20.800 convince

00:38:21.260 people

00:38:21.760 that

00:38:22.120 what

00:38:22.420 this

00:38:22.640 collective

00:38:23.040 really

00:38:23.600 is

00:38:24.300 is the

00:38:25.200 spiritual

00:38:25.700 culmination

00:38:26.580 that everyone

00:38:27.140 has always

00:38:27.620 been looking

00:38:28.140 for

00:38:28.560 you see

00:38:28.960 because

00:38:30.820 you can't

00:38:31.640 just say

00:38:32.200 hey let's

00:38:33.240 join the

00:38:33.640 collective

00:38:33.980 come on

00:38:34.700 everybody

00:38:35.200 you have to

00:38:37.940 artfully

00:38:38.820 embellish

00:38:39.460 it

00:38:39.640 you have

00:38:40.100 to be

00:38:40.640 an extreme

00:38:42.360 deceiver

00:38:43.020 you have

00:38:43.620 to present

00:38:44.180 out front

00:38:44.920 images

00:38:45.540 and ideas

00:38:47.040 and words

00:38:48.060 and so

00:38:49.260 on

00:38:49.580 and feelings

00:38:50.280 that prompt

00:38:51.720 in people

00:38:52.420 the achievement

00:38:55.440 of the

00:38:56.100 highest goal

00:38:56.940 that they've

00:38:57.500 ever wanted

00:38:58.120 in life

00:38:58.620 and this

00:38:58.960 is why

00:38:59.300 they can

00:38:59.620 prey on

00:39:00.160 the young

00:39:00.640 so easily

00:39:01.880 because the

00:39:02.580 young

00:39:03.000 are idealistic

00:39:04.740 and so

00:39:05.960 it's

00:39:06.580 you know

00:39:07.080 the hook

00:39:07.480 and the

00:39:07.800 eye

00:39:08.180 here comes

00:39:09.020 the hook

00:39:09.500 you've got

00:39:10.500 the eye

00:39:11.080 bingo

00:39:11.740 you want

00:39:13.240 the greatest

00:39:13.760 good for

00:39:14.280 the greatest

00:39:14.660 number

00:39:14.960 that's what

00:39:15.380 we want

00:39:15.820 too

00:39:16.060 of course

00:39:16.680 we want

00:39:17.840 peace

00:39:18.240 we want

00:39:18.620 no more

00:39:19.940 suffering

00:39:20.440 no more

00:39:21.080 pain

00:39:21.660 no more

00:39:22.420 poverty

00:39:22.940 no more

00:39:23.460 inequality

00:39:24.080 no more

00:39:24.660 injustice

00:39:25.140 we're going

00:39:25.960 to give

00:39:26.260 it all

00:39:26.660 to you

00:39:27.200 the best

00:39:27.780 of the best

00:39:28.320 of the best

00:39:28.840 that's why

00:39:29.380 we're here

00:39:30.120 and we want

00:39:31.420 you to join

00:39:32.020 us and help

00:39:32.600 us

00:39:32.920 and that

00:39:34.540 turns out

00:39:35.060 to be

00:39:35.320 collectivism

00:39:36.000 you see

00:39:36.320 it's the

00:39:36.740 ultimate

00:39:37.120 bait and

00:39:37.620 switch

00:39:38.020 and so

00:39:39.340 you know

00:39:40.020 I get this

00:39:40.720 over the years

00:39:41.420 and again

00:39:41.880 I've become

00:39:42.840 completely immune

00:39:43.820 to it

00:39:44.260 but people

00:39:44.900 will say

00:39:45.460 you know

00:39:46.060 you're exceedingly

00:39:46.840 cruel

00:39:47.420 to me

00:39:48.760 because

00:39:49.480 what you

00:39:50.380 seem to be

00:39:50.980 saying

00:39:51.540 is that

00:39:52.240 all of these

00:39:52.900 humanitarian

00:39:53.660 impulses

00:39:54.540 that people

00:39:55.100 have

00:39:55.700 are just

00:39:57.420 you know

00:39:57.940 sheer crap

00:39:59.000 they

00:40:00.500 misunderstand

00:40:01.200 by 180

00:40:02.420 degrees

00:40:03.040 and I

00:40:04.000 used to

00:40:04.360 try to

00:40:04.700 explain

00:40:05.340 you know

00:40:06.400 individually

00:40:07.580 to people

00:40:08.760 how crazy

00:40:09.960 they were

00:40:10.640 but now

00:40:11.680 I just

00:40:12.020 write more

00:40:12.500 articles

00:40:12.940 because I

00:40:13.500 don't have

00:40:13.780 the time

00:40:14.260 to do that

00:40:14.860 or the

00:40:15.160 inclination

00:40:15.800 no it's

00:40:16.820 the grand

00:40:17.220 deception

00:40:17.700 this is the

00:40:18.380 grand deception

00:40:19.020 of the empire

00:40:19.840 this is how

00:40:20.620 you create

00:40:21.600 an army

00:40:22.140 how do you

00:40:22.620 think you

00:40:22.960 get people

00:40:23.580 to go

00:40:23.980 overseas

00:40:24.340 and die

00:40:25.780 how do you

00:40:26.620 think you

00:40:26.980 get people

00:40:27.580 to give up

00:40:28.960 what they

00:40:29.340 have

00:40:29.880 how do you

00:40:31.580 think you

00:40:31.940 get people

00:40:32.460 to deny

00:40:34.420 at the

00:40:35.460 most profound

00:40:37.060 level

00:40:37.540 their own

00:40:38.360 power

00:40:38.880 and their

00:40:39.340 own

00:40:39.680 imagination

00:40:40.720 you show

00:40:42.160 them something

00:40:42.880 that

00:40:44.060 rings a

00:40:46.320 bell

00:40:46.700 inside them

00:40:48.660 something

00:40:49.320 they've always

00:40:49.900 wanted

00:40:50.380 something that

00:40:51.080 seems to be

00:40:51.680 completely

00:40:52.060 selfless

00:40:52.820 and

00:40:54.600 non-commercial

00:40:55.940 and non-profit

00:40:57.300 and you

00:40:57.840 say

00:40:58.220 this is

00:40:59.100 who we

00:40:59.460 are

00:40:59.700 this is

00:41:00.080 what we

00:41:00.420 do

00:41:00.780 come with

00:41:02.140 us

00:41:02.540 be part

00:41:03.660 of it

00:41:04.080 you know

00:41:05.280 so when

00:41:06.560 I mean

00:41:07.340 I watch

00:41:07.880 this all

00:41:08.340 the time

00:41:08.860 I see

00:41:09.500 it

00:41:09.700 playing

00:41:10.060 out

00:41:10.840 and

00:41:12.660 this

00:41:14.600 the

00:41:15.120 extreme

00:41:15.960 deception

00:41:16.440 behind it

00:41:17.400 there's also

00:41:18.080 a lot

00:41:18.580 of anti-self

00:41:19.680 anti-ego

00:41:20.680 programming

00:41:21.460 coming out

00:41:21.960 of Hollywood

00:41:22.440 right now

00:41:22.840 have you

00:41:23.080 noticed

00:41:23.420 yes

00:41:25.000 I've

00:41:25.400 noticed

00:41:25.660 that

00:41:25.880 for a

00:41:26.200 long

00:41:26.400 time

00:41:26.840 absolutely

00:41:27.840 you know

00:41:29.080 here's a

00:41:31.540 perfect

00:41:32.060 example

00:41:32.720 family

00:41:33.440 I noticed

00:41:35.360 about 20

00:41:36.280 years ago

00:41:36.880 25 years

00:41:37.700 ago

00:41:37.900 maybe

00:41:38.220 that

00:41:39.440 you know

00:41:40.460 show

00:41:40.940 television

00:41:41.560 I don't

00:41:43.160 care whether

00:41:43.480 it was a

00:41:43.840 cop show

00:41:44.540 or whether

00:41:45.280 it was

00:41:45.840 the news

00:41:46.520 or whether

00:41:47.060 it was a

00:41:47.920 public service

00:41:48.700 announcement

00:41:49.300 or medical

00:41:50.460 this and

00:41:51.600 that

00:41:51.960 family

00:41:52.860 family

00:41:53.180 family

00:41:53.560 family

00:41:53.920 family

00:41:54.320 family

00:41:54.680 family

00:41:55.120 family

00:41:55.520 family

00:41:56.160 the godfather

00:41:57.080 everything is

00:41:57.760 about the

00:41:58.180 family

00:41:58.500 where did

00:42:00.120 all this

00:42:00.480 come from

00:42:00.900 all of a

00:42:01.280 sudden

00:42:01.440 it was as

00:42:02.140 if people

00:42:02.760 never understood

00:42:03.740 what family

00:42:04.460 was before

00:42:05.160 and they had

00:42:05.560 to be educated

00:42:06.320 which is of

00:42:07.040 course absurd

00:42:07.720 you know

00:42:08.080 so

00:42:08.380 I said

00:42:09.640 okay

00:42:09.960 so this

00:42:10.380 is coming

00:42:10.880 from somewhere

00:42:11.780 and

00:42:13.160 where it's

00:42:16.400 coming from

00:42:17.060 is

00:42:17.400 this is

00:42:19.260 how we

00:42:19.640 tame

00:42:20.000 the rebel

00:42:20.600 the rebel

00:42:22.860 is always

00:42:23.320 at odds

00:42:23.840 with his

00:42:24.220 family

00:42:24.740 one way

00:42:25.860 or another

00:42:26.340 and so

00:42:27.220 we tell

00:42:27.760 a little

00:42:28.080 fairy tale

00:42:28.860 for the

00:42:29.220 kiddies

00:42:29.720 where we

00:42:30.900 start

00:42:31.360 you know

00:42:32.020 the arc

00:42:32.460 of the

00:42:32.680 story

00:42:32.980 goes from

00:42:33.820 the outsider

00:42:35.000 the rebel

00:42:35.820 the loner

00:42:37.240 etc

00:42:38.360 etc

00:42:38.780 etc

00:42:39.140 and it

00:42:39.660 ends

00:42:40.120 with the

00:42:40.740 melting

00:42:41.040 down

00:42:41.480 in the

00:42:41.780 great

00:42:42.040 cosmic

00:42:42.520 cheese

00:42:43.040 of the

00:42:43.380 family

00:42:43.840 I'm

00:42:44.540 back in

00:42:45.020 the arms

00:42:45.500 of my

00:42:45.900 family

00:42:46.580 family

00:42:47.220 again

00:42:47.820 there is

00:42:50.440 nothing

00:42:50.800 but family

00:42:51.640 I mean

00:42:52.060 you can

00:42:52.460 watch

00:42:52.760 television

00:42:53.360 and see

00:42:55.120 this kind

00:42:55.920 of phrase

00:42:56.320 repeated a

00:42:56.980 thousand

00:42:57.300 different

00:42:57.640 ways

00:42:58.140 family

00:42:59.740 is all

00:43:00.280 there is

00:43:00.720 in the

00:43:01.020 end

00:43:01.500 you know

00:43:02.260 there's

00:43:02.880 only

00:43:03.180 family

00:43:03.880 and this

00:43:05.880 goes on

00:43:06.420 and on

00:43:06.740 and on

00:43:07.100 and on

00:43:07.480 it has

00:43:08.220 no end

00:43:08.780 and this

00:43:09.600 is one

00:43:10.040 of the

00:43:10.280 ways

00:43:10.600 for example

00:43:11.240 of saying

00:43:12.400 straight out

00:43:13.860 of Hollywood

00:43:14.400 if you

00:43:17.580 are outside

00:43:18.320 the family

00:43:18.980 you're a

00:43:20.020 criminal

00:43:20.340 basically

00:43:21.020 you're all

00:43:22.800 ego

00:43:23.140 and you're

00:43:25.400 all greed

00:43:26.200 and you're

00:43:27.520 all insanity

00:43:28.320 and you're

00:43:29.580 all dangerous

00:43:30.500 then you come

00:43:32.540 back into the

00:43:33.180 family

00:43:33.520 and then

00:43:34.120 you're healed

00:43:34.680 and now

00:43:36.340 if you

00:43:36.860 want to

00:43:37.400 pursue

00:43:37.800 your own

00:43:38.380 spiritual

00:43:38.900 destiny

00:43:39.560 you are

00:43:40.600 a selfish

00:43:41.040 bastard

00:43:41.460 exactly

00:43:44.600 because look

00:43:45.220 at how many

00:43:45.580 people you're

00:43:46.100 disappointing

00:43:46.660 look at how

00:43:49.040 many people

00:43:49.540 now see

00:43:50.680 you as

00:43:51.720 being strange

00:43:52.440 look at how

00:43:53.640 many people

00:43:54.240 shun you

00:43:55.060 what gives

00:43:57.620 you the

00:43:58.320 right

00:43:58.840 you know

00:43:59.640 this is sort

00:44:00.200 of the

00:44:00.420 cabber

00:44:00.780 what gives

00:44:02.140 you the

00:44:02.820 right to

00:44:03.440 think that

00:44:04.160 you can

00:44:04.860 find your

00:44:05.600 own individual

00:44:06.500 destiny

00:44:07.640 or even

00:44:08.380 worse

00:44:08.960 create it

00:44:10.180 you know

00:44:12.120 when all

00:44:13.900 of us

00:44:14.300 here

00:44:14.720 huddled

00:44:15.340 together

00:44:15.900 who love

00:44:17.220 you so

00:44:17.800 much

00:44:18.240 who want

00:44:19.300 you to be

00:44:19.700 a part

00:44:20.100 of us

00:44:20.360 are so

00:44:21.020 profoundly

00:44:21.460 disappointed

00:44:22.180 in you

00:44:22.940 we don't

00:44:23.880 understand

00:44:24.680 you

00:44:25.240 you're not

00:44:26.320 making any

00:44:26.920 sense

00:44:27.340 anymore

00:44:27.900 you need

00:44:28.400 psychiatric

00:44:28.960 help

00:44:29.700 you need

00:44:30.620 drugs

00:44:31.200 just come

00:44:33.820 back

00:44:34.320 and over

00:44:37.740 and over

00:44:38.040 and over

00:44:38.360 again

00:44:38.700 and it's

00:44:40.680 repellent

00:44:41.380 it's

00:44:41.660 disgusting

00:44:42.140 and I

00:44:44.060 have

00:44:44.440 you know

00:44:45.520 lost

00:44:45.860 friends

00:44:46.220 over it

00:44:46.880 I've

00:44:47.940 lost

00:44:48.200 good

00:44:48.460 friends

00:44:48.820 over it

00:44:49.740 people

00:44:50.340 who

00:44:51.040 detach

00:44:53.360 themselves

00:44:53.780 from me

00:44:54.620 because they

00:44:55.220 thought you

00:44:55.780 know this

00:44:56.120 guy's like a

00:44:56.820 live wire

00:44:57.460 here

00:44:57.880 well you

00:44:59.120 know there's

00:44:59.380 too much

00:44:59.760 electricity

00:45:00.300 and he

00:45:01.400 just

00:45:01.860 you know

00:45:03.360 not going

00:45:04.200 to take

00:45:04.480 any shit

00:45:05.080 and he

00:45:06.480 doesn't

00:45:06.820 agree

00:45:07.180 with our

00:45:07.700 principles

00:45:08.220 of the

00:45:08.720 collective

00:45:09.100 he doesn't

00:45:10.620 see the

00:45:11.200 good

00:45:11.720 of everyone

00:45:12.800 working

00:45:13.420 together to

00:45:14.100 cooperate for

00:45:14.880 a better

00:45:15.180 world

00:45:15.640 he's against

00:45:16.460 a better

00:45:17.080 world

00:45:17.700 no I'm

00:45:19.940 against

00:45:20.240 one world

00:45:21.140 I'm for

00:45:22.340 many worlds

00:45:23.580 a lot

00:45:25.180 of worlds

00:45:25.860 each one

00:45:26.880 invented and

00:45:27.700 created through

00:45:28.520 the imagination

00:45:29.400 and power

00:45:30.040 of the

00:45:30.800 individual

00:45:31.280 with the

00:45:32.140 one

00:45:32.360 proviso

00:45:32.960 that you

00:45:33.980 don't

00:45:34.400 interfere

00:45:34.840 with the

00:45:35.320 freedom

00:45:35.640 of another

00:45:36.400 period

00:45:37.120 you don't

00:45:38.760 try to

00:45:39.120 encroach

00:45:39.820 so what

00:45:42.060 we're

00:45:42.320 seeing

00:45:42.840 you know

00:45:43.900 it's like

00:45:44.420 a steam

00:45:46.340 roller

00:45:46.800 trying to

00:45:48.920 steam roll

00:45:49.700 everybody down

00:45:50.860 to the

00:45:51.300 same size

00:45:52.440 and the

00:45:52.800 same shape

00:45:53.680 and the

00:45:54.020 same

00:45:54.180 composition

00:45:54.900 while

00:45:56.300 saying

00:45:56.940 that this

00:45:58.080 is

00:45:58.680 the

00:46:00.380 realization

00:46:02.220 spiritual

00:46:02.940 realization

00:46:03.580 of everything

00:46:04.220 that has

00:46:05.260 ever been

00:46:05.800 wanted

00:46:07.100 by

00:46:07.660 humankind

00:46:08.680 it's

00:46:11.160 metaphysical

00:46:11.860 communism

00:46:12.600 that's what

00:46:13.180 that is

00:46:13.660 yeah

00:46:14.480 but

00:46:15.940 you know

00:46:16.480 the USSR

00:46:17.080 version

00:46:17.800 didn't work

00:46:18.660 and it

00:46:20.500 didn't work

00:46:20.940 on a lot

00:46:21.320 of different

00:46:21.680 levels

00:46:22.040 and it

00:46:22.340 didn't

00:46:22.800 work on

00:46:23.220 a psychological

00:46:23.880 level

00:46:24.340 so it

00:46:24.820 needed

00:46:25.260 a new

00:46:25.860 front

00:46:26.340 it needed

00:46:26.920 a complete

00:46:27.600 you know

00:46:28.320 rehaul

00:46:28.880 overhaul

00:46:29.720 and renovation

00:46:30.920 to make

00:46:31.960 it more

00:46:32.320 appealing

00:46:32.780 to make

00:46:33.320 it softer

00:46:33.980 to bring

00:46:34.680 in operatives

00:46:35.800 that knew

00:46:36.960 how to play

00:46:37.500 the game

00:46:38.060 in the

00:46:39.080 industrial

00:46:39.480 societies

00:46:40.320 that were

00:46:41.960 basically

00:46:42.540 you know

00:46:44.760 at least

00:46:45.700 at one

00:46:46.060 time

00:46:46.660 free market

00:46:47.940 societies

00:46:48.660 and so

00:46:50.560 they had

00:46:51.680 to be

00:46:51.960 smarter

00:46:52.340 and more

00:46:52.780 clever

00:46:53.080 and more

00:46:53.560 devious

00:46:54.020 and they

00:46:54.360 are

00:46:54.660 far more

00:46:55.400 well this

00:46:56.640 is when

00:46:56.900 the idea

00:46:57.320 of mass

00:46:58.180 harmony

00:46:58.640 global

00:46:59.480 outlook

00:47:00.080 collective

00:47:00.660 consciousness

00:47:01.200 is all

00:47:02.300 very dangerous

00:47:03.120 that's another

00:47:07.440 great one

00:47:07.960 collective

00:47:08.320 consciousness

00:47:08.920 during the

00:47:10.800 1960s

00:47:11.640 we saw

00:47:12.160 the import

00:47:13.000 from

00:47:14.000 Asia

00:47:14.700 into

00:47:16.080 America

00:47:16.620 and other

00:47:18.600 countries

00:47:19.080 of a

00:47:20.640 perverted

00:47:21.060 and distorted

00:47:21.800 take on

00:47:23.720 various

00:47:24.760 spiritual

00:47:25.300 systems

00:47:26.080 of

00:47:27.240 India

00:47:27.700 China

00:47:28.160 Japan

00:47:28.560 and

00:47:30.200 brought in

00:47:31.560 was this

00:47:32.220 whole idea

00:47:32.820 of collective

00:47:33.340 consciousness

00:47:33.860 which is

00:47:34.620 collectivism

00:47:35.280 and globalism

00:47:36.220 at the level

00:47:37.620 of spirit

00:47:38.260 and it

00:47:39.220 basically

00:47:40.160 said

00:47:40.880 when you

00:47:41.400 stripped away

00:47:42.160 the

00:47:42.600 embroidery

00:47:43.660 the ultimate

00:47:46.160 state of

00:47:46.640 consciousness

00:47:47.100 is

00:47:47.800 that

00:47:48.880 state

00:47:49.940 in which

00:47:50.280 we are

00:47:50.680 all one

00:47:51.320 we are

00:47:52.780 all one

00:47:53.240 we are

00:47:54.120 the same

00:47:54.640 person

00:47:55.180 everything

00:47:56.140 is

00:47:56.460 everything

00:47:56.960 there is

00:47:58.540 no

00:47:58.760 separation

00:47:59.420 and

00:48:00.920 of course

00:48:04.420 this taps

00:48:05.040 into

00:48:05.460 very deep

00:48:06.300 impulses

00:48:06.820 in people

00:48:07.320 who feel

00:48:08.160 dislocated

00:48:09.700 disenchanted

00:48:11.040 lonely

00:48:13.140 yearning

00:48:14.740 for

00:48:15.120 something

00:48:15.720 yearning

00:48:17.100 for a

00:48:17.540 connection

00:48:18.060 of some

00:48:19.080 kind

00:48:19.620 and so

00:48:22.240 they buy

00:48:22.800 it

00:48:23.100 wow

00:48:24.060 this is

00:48:24.520 fantastic

00:48:25.080 to know

00:48:25.600 that the

00:48:26.020 universe

00:48:26.420 finally

00:48:27.100 is really

00:48:28.300 all about

00:48:29.220 collective

00:48:30.120 consciousness

00:48:30.720 what you

00:48:32.480 know

00:48:32.720 is what

00:48:33.020 I know

00:48:33.540 and vice

00:48:34.020 versa

00:48:34.400 and we

00:48:34.880 all know

00:48:35.340 everything

00:48:35.780 and it's

00:48:36.360 all

00:48:36.820 apparent

00:48:37.880 and it's

00:48:39.060 a revelation

00:48:39.640 and we can

00:48:40.180 all see it

00:48:40.720 together

00:48:41.080 and

00:48:42.120 you know

00:48:43.220 there we

00:48:43.820 are

00:48:44.120 and this

00:48:44.820 is the

00:48:45.100 highest

00:48:45.580 goal

00:48:46.900 that can

00:48:47.440 be

00:48:47.680 sought

00:48:48.040 and

00:48:50.080 this

00:48:52.120 was

00:48:52.960 enormously

00:48:57.960 destructive

00:48:58.720 I mean

00:48:59.280 I lived

00:48:59.860 through it

00:49:00.560 I was

00:49:01.360 old enough

00:49:02.000 at the

00:49:02.280 time

00:49:02.780 and already

00:49:04.020 rebellious

00:49:04.720 enough at

00:49:05.180 the time

00:49:05.620 to know

00:49:06.180 what I was

00:49:06.640 looking at

00:49:07.220 when the

00:49:07.560 60s came

00:49:08.260 and went

00:49:08.760 and although

00:49:09.780 certain

00:49:10.380 very important

00:49:11.080 things happened

00:49:11.760 in the 60s

00:49:12.640 at the same

00:49:14.500 time

00:49:15.040 I was

00:49:15.580 watching

00:49:16.020 people

00:49:16.640 whom I

00:49:17.720 knew

00:49:18.100 commit

00:49:22.740 slow

00:49:23.400 suicide

00:49:24.160 physical

00:49:26.020 suicide

00:49:26.660 spiritual

00:49:27.160 suicide

00:49:27.880 and at

00:49:31.780 the same

00:49:32.160 time

00:49:32.760 intentionally

00:49:34.360 lowering

00:49:35.020 their own

00:49:35.520 IQ

00:49:35.860 and

00:49:37.700 giving up

00:49:39.280 completely

00:49:39.780 on their

00:49:40.200 own

00:49:40.360 imagination

00:49:40.960 and

00:49:44.280 watching

00:49:44.700 that

00:49:45.080 not a

00:49:45.740 pleasant

00:49:46.020 thing

00:49:46.420 was

00:49:48.200 very

00:49:51.280 instructive

00:49:52.080 and it

00:49:53.600 was all

00:49:54.020 about

00:49:54.380 this

00:49:54.700 idea

00:49:55.200 really

00:49:55.740 shared

00:49:57.760 consciousness

00:50:00.080 collective

00:50:00.920 consciousness

00:50:01.860 that's

00:50:03.920 what they

00:50:04.480 had opted

00:50:06.900 for

00:50:07.240 that's

00:50:07.560 what they

00:50:07.840 bought

00:50:08.240 and

00:50:09.080 it

00:50:09.860 destroyed

00:50:10.280 them

00:50:10.600 so do

00:50:13.200 you think

00:50:13.520 parts of

00:50:14.100 the new

00:50:14.440 age

00:50:14.640 movement

00:50:14.980 then

00:50:15.320 could be

00:50:15.780 manufactured

00:50:16.380 by the

00:50:17.060 matrix

00:50:17.380 graders

00:50:17.720 oh yeah

00:50:18.580 no question

00:50:19.120 about it

00:50:19.960 absolutely

00:50:20.480 consciously

00:50:21.260 with full

00:50:21.980 intent

00:50:22.400 to do

00:50:23.140 harm

00:50:23.500 aspects

00:50:25.660 of the

00:50:26.160 new

00:50:26.300 age

00:50:26.520 movement

00:50:26.900 were

00:50:27.260 really

00:50:27.940 invented

00:50:28.980 as a

00:50:29.520 psychological

00:50:30.000 operation

00:50:30.840 a

00:50:31.660 psyop

00:50:32.180 a

00:50:32.980 grand

00:50:33.500 psyop

00:50:34.220 from

00:50:34.800 one end

00:50:35.200 of the

00:50:35.400 planet

00:50:35.700 to the

00:50:36.060 other

00:50:36.280 to bring

00:50:37.480 people

00:50:37.840 into the

00:50:38.240 fold

00:50:38.580 to

00:50:40.500 destroy

00:50:41.080 the

00:50:41.840 concept

00:50:42.180 of the

00:50:42.540 individual

00:50:43.060 and to

00:50:43.960 replace

00:50:44.360 it with

00:50:44.860 the

00:50:45.240 spiritual

00:50:45.780 collective

00:50:46.360 no question

00:50:47.260 about it

00:50:47.840 absolutely

00:50:48.540 absolutely

00:50:51.400 so

00:50:51.800 and

00:50:52.440 several

00:50:53.160 of the

00:50:53.500 insiders

00:50:54.100 that I

00:50:55.180 have

00:50:55.460 interviewed

00:50:55.900 at length

00:50:56.500 who

00:50:56.980 were

00:50:57.640 involved

00:50:58.780 in

00:50:59.040 psychological

00:50:59.560 operations

00:51:00.520 not only

00:51:02.020 told me

00:51:02.460 as much

00:51:02.840 but they

00:51:03.300 spelled

00:51:03.600 it out

00:51:04.020 you know

00:51:04.760 how it

00:51:05.180 was done

00:51:05.680 and

00:51:07.020 where it

00:51:10.080 was done

00:51:10.520 and the

00:51:12.320 research

00:51:12.800 behind it

00:51:13.680 so yes

00:51:16.600 no question

00:51:17.400 about it

00:51:17.720 and what

00:51:17.900 about the

00:51:18.240 psychedelic

00:51:18.760 movement

00:51:19.140 or CIA's

00:51:20.220 involvement

00:51:20.580 with LSD

00:51:21.540 giving it

00:51:22.160 away at

00:51:22.440 universities

00:51:22.920 you bet

00:51:24.820 you know

00:51:26.340 there are a

00:51:26.800 lot of

00:51:27.140 people that

00:51:27.860 were

00:51:28.300 unconscious

00:51:31.820 of the

00:51:32.480 the design

00:51:34.180 of the

00:51:34.460 whole thing

00:51:35.000 of course

00:51:35.720 just like

00:51:36.320 in any

00:51:37.000 conspiracy

00:51:37.560 and there

00:51:39.160 were people

00:51:39.620 who dropped

00:51:40.180 acid

00:51:40.640 who

00:51:41.140 found that

00:51:42.700 it changed

00:51:43.100 their lives

00:51:43.780 yeah

00:51:45.160 and

00:51:46.740 normally

00:51:48.300 those people

00:51:49.100 were people

00:51:49.740 who

00:51:50.360 did it

00:51:52.660 once or

00:51:53.160 twice

00:51:53.600 acid

00:51:55.820 mescaline

00:51:56.600 peyote

00:51:57.220 whatever

00:51:57.640 others

00:51:59.860 became

00:52:00.740 crusaders

00:52:02.620 in the

00:52:03.140 cause

00:52:03.680 you know

00:52:04.220 and changed

00:52:05.080 the world

00:52:05.560 through LSD

00:52:06.380 others

00:52:08.340 were destroyed

00:52:11.500 but

00:52:15.160 yes

00:52:16.220 the CIA

00:52:16.880 started out

00:52:19.420 they were

00:52:21.200 looking for

00:52:21.640 a truth

00:52:22.040 drug

00:52:22.460 and they

00:52:23.140 went through

00:52:23.520 a whole

00:52:23.800 bunch of

00:52:24.200 them

00:52:24.400 and they

00:52:25.800 didn't find

00:52:26.340 anything

00:52:26.700 that was

00:52:27.540 reliable

00:52:28.180 and they

00:52:28.580 went to

00:52:28.880 LSD

00:52:29.280 and what

00:52:31.240 they discovered

00:52:31.820 with LSD

00:52:32.540 was

00:52:33.140 it wasn't

00:52:34.200 a truth

00:52:34.660 drug

00:52:35.080 and this

00:52:35.420 was part

00:52:35.800 of MK

00:52:36.180 Ultra

00:52:36.500 their mind

00:52:37.020 control

00:52:37.340 program

00:52:37.860 that started

00:52:38.360 roughly

00:52:39.200 1952

00:52:40.260 what they

00:52:41.340 discovered

00:52:41.820 was

00:52:42.360 no it's

00:52:43.300 not a

00:52:43.680 truth

00:52:43.960 drug

00:52:44.340 but if

00:52:44.740 we give

00:52:45.180 somebody

00:52:45.740 enough

00:52:46.260 of it

00:52:46.720 we can

00:52:48.220 put them

00:52:48.820 into a

00:52:49.440 state

00:52:49.740 of absolute

00:52:50.520 terror

00:52:51.100 where they

00:52:52.760 will tell

00:52:53.480 us whatever

00:52:54.060 we want

00:52:54.640 them to

00:52:54.940 tell us

00:52:55.420 and so

00:52:58.600 they said

00:52:59.100 this is

00:52:59.440 good

00:52:59.760 this is

00:53:01.300 an important

00:53:01.760 drug

00:53:02.220 and so

00:53:04.920 it became

00:53:05.460 part of

00:53:05.880 MKUltra

00:53:06.600 but then

00:53:07.940 they and

00:53:09.220 other people

00:53:10.000 said

00:53:11.140 what would

00:53:12.760 happen if

00:53:13.680 we just

00:53:15.120 unleashed this

00:53:15.880 on society

00:53:16.620 completely

00:53:17.780 and made

00:53:20.700 sure that it

00:53:21.440 was distributed

00:53:22.100 far enough

00:53:22.720 and wide

00:53:23.140 enough so

00:53:23.620 that we

00:53:24.920 would

00:53:25.260 you know

00:53:26.240 make a

00:53:28.240 social revolution

00:53:29.060 here

00:53:29.440 what would

00:53:29.960 be the

00:53:30.360 outcome

00:53:30.720 of that

00:53:31.140 and you

00:53:32.140 know there

00:53:32.460 were conferences

00:53:33.120 and papers

00:53:33.760 written and

00:53:34.340 LSD researchers

00:53:35.440 who chimed in

00:53:36.480 and this and

00:53:37.080 that and the

00:53:37.440 other thing

00:53:37.900 and the

00:53:38.420 conclusion

00:53:38.860 was

00:53:39.400 people will

00:53:42.280 become

00:53:43.000 ultimately

00:53:44.960 more

00:53:48.600 disabled

00:53:49.140 and

00:53:51.040 passive

00:53:51.740 for example

00:53:54.640 I know

00:53:56.020 the case

00:53:56.460 of a

00:53:56.840 painter

00:53:57.400 in New

00:53:57.780 York

00:53:58.160 a good

00:53:58.740 painter

00:53:59.140 very talented

00:54:00.060 from the

00:54:00.540 time he was a

00:54:01.140 child

00:54:01.500 who took

00:54:03.340 LSD several

00:54:04.280 times and

00:54:04.880 never painted

00:54:05.380 again for the

00:54:05.920 rest of his

00:54:06.320 life

00:54:06.620 and I said

00:54:08.480 what would

00:54:09.600 you do

00:54:09.820 that for

00:54:10.360 idiot

00:54:11.880 and he

00:54:13.340 said

00:54:13.620 no no

00:54:14.500 he said

00:54:15.120 I saw

00:54:15.700 things while

00:54:16.260 I was on

00:54:16.680 acid

00:54:17.000 such fantastic

00:54:18.000 things that I

00:54:18.780 didn't even need to

00:54:19.480 put a brush on

00:54:20.100 canvas after that

00:54:21.020 I didn't need to

00:54:22.280 do anything

00:54:23.540 so that's a

00:54:27.680 little cameo

00:54:28.620 if you

00:54:29.200 multiply

00:54:29.660 that by

00:54:31.300 millions

00:54:31.860 you begin

00:54:33.860 to see

00:54:34.440 the effects

00:54:35.740 throughout

00:54:36.160 society

00:54:36.720 that rippled

00:54:37.380 during the

00:54:37.820 1960s

00:54:38.720 it's here

00:54:39.860 it's now

00:54:40.400 I've got it

00:54:41.040 I saw it

00:54:41.640 I experienced

00:54:42.400 it

00:54:42.740 nothing will

00:54:44.560 ever be the

00:54:45.140 same

00:54:45.460 and

00:54:47.280 all I need

00:54:48.680 to do now

00:54:49.180 is float

00:54:49.560 through time

00:54:50.160 and space

00:54:50.660 because

00:54:51.200 I'm enlightened

00:54:52.280 well that

00:54:54.620 was just

00:54:55.200 delusory

00:54:56.520 as people

00:54:57.460 discovered

00:54:58.020 if they ever

00:54:59.240 you know

00:54:59.660 whenever they

00:55:00.140 stopped taking

00:55:00.800 it and they

00:55:01.220 would have to

00:55:01.680 stop taking

00:55:02.260 it otherwise

00:55:02.740 it would just

00:55:03.280 kill them

00:55:03.720 physically

00:55:04.160 after a

00:55:05.180 while

00:55:05.440 and then

00:55:08.800 they were

00:55:09.080 left

00:55:09.420 with nothing

00:55:10.980 so do you

00:55:13.760 see the

00:55:14.060 same

00:55:14.400 dangers

00:55:15.460 we're talking

00:55:15.880 about

00:55:16.100 collective

00:55:16.620 consciousness

00:55:17.100 also within

00:55:17.960 alternative

00:55:18.640 media

00:55:19.140 yeah

00:55:22.560 unfortunately

00:55:23.260 I do

00:55:24.020 but

00:55:25.060 I think

00:55:26.400 with the

00:55:26.920 internet

00:55:27.240 there are

00:55:29.920 self-correcting

00:55:30.800 mechanisms

00:55:31.320 there are

00:55:32.260 enough people

00:55:32.780 out there

00:55:33.420 digging

00:55:34.820 and digging

00:55:35.320 and digging

00:55:35.780 so that

00:55:37.260 hopefully

00:55:38.000 very good

00:55:40.580 information

00:55:41.260 emerges from

00:55:42.180 a number of

00:55:42.720 different sources

00:55:43.420 which can't

00:55:44.600 be compromised

00:55:45.180 I mean

00:55:46.400 that's what

00:55:46.860 the web

00:55:47.320 gives you

00:55:49.680 as the

00:55:50.080 potential

00:55:50.540 but sure

00:55:51.760 I mean

00:55:52.620 I saw that

00:55:53.200 as a reporter

00:55:53.880 before I

00:55:54.980 you know

00:55:55.300 even got out

00:55:55.900 of the

00:55:56.100 business

00:55:56.560 the

00:56:01.920 alternative

00:56:02.700 media

00:56:03.280 at that

00:56:03.820 time

00:56:04.220 were

00:56:04.640 free

00:56:06.280 newspapers

00:56:06.860 and small

00:56:08.320 magazines

00:56:08.840 and there

00:56:11.120 were certain

00:56:11.480 stories that

00:56:12.240 I would

00:56:12.500 propose

00:56:13.040 and you

00:56:13.880 know

00:56:14.060 get shot

00:56:15.560 down

00:56:15.800 every time

00:56:16.360 and that's

00:56:18.200 still the

00:56:18.560 case

00:56:18.880 you know

00:56:20.480 I've written

00:56:20.920 for

00:56:21.380 I could

00:56:23.220 think of

00:56:23.540 one

00:56:23.920 alternative

00:56:25.040 web

00:56:25.680 magazine

00:56:26.320 I sent

00:56:27.740 them an

00:56:28.020 article

00:56:28.320 I gave

00:56:29.300 them my

00:56:29.540 background

00:56:29.920 and they

00:56:30.200 said

00:56:30.320 this is

00:56:30.680 fabulous

00:56:31.060 we're

00:56:31.320 going to

00:56:31.460 print

00:56:31.680 this

00:56:31.900 and bang

00:56:32.300 it appeared

00:56:32.720 the next

00:56:33.100 day

00:56:33.300 and I

00:56:33.540 sent

00:56:33.700 them

00:56:33.840 another

00:56:34.120 article

00:56:34.500 and they

00:56:34.800 rejected

00:56:35.240 it

00:56:35.480 and I

00:56:35.700 sent

00:56:35.860 them

00:56:35.960 another

00:56:36.200 one

00:56:36.400 and they

00:56:36.660 said

00:56:36.940 sorry

00:56:37.980 we can't

00:56:38.480 publish

00:56:38.800 this

00:56:39.060 or anything

00:56:39.860 that you

00:56:40.400 give us

00:56:40.980 so I

00:56:43.860 looked at

00:56:44.280 the

00:56:44.700 web

00:56:46.840 zine

00:56:47.380 again

00:56:47.880 checked

00:56:49.000 it out

00:56:49.440 and I

00:56:49.760 saw

00:56:50.060 okay

00:56:50.980 it's

00:56:52.040 political

00:56:52.500 I'm

00:56:53.120 talking

00:56:53.440 about

00:56:53.700 the

00:56:53.880 individual

00:56:54.320 somebody

00:56:54.720 went to

00:56:55.100 my

00:56:55.260 website

00:56:55.620 and they

00:56:56.300 started

00:56:56.560 reading

00:56:57.000 you know

00:56:58.460 everything

00:56:58.820 and no

00:56:59.100 more fake

00:56:59.480 news

00:56:59.820 and they

00:57:00.120 saw

00:57:00.400 this guy

00:57:01.140 is

00:57:01.520 he takes

00:57:02.540 it too

00:57:02.860 far

00:57:03.260 and he's

00:57:04.800 criticizing

00:57:05.420 everybody

00:57:06.320 you know

00:57:07.900 Robert Anton

00:57:09.060 Wilson

00:57:09.380 once said

00:57:10.140 the people

00:57:11.200 on the

00:57:11.520 political

00:57:11.780 left

00:57:12.080 hate

00:57:12.320 corporations

00:57:12.980 the people

00:57:13.440 on the

00:57:13.720 political

00:57:13.980 right

00:57:14.300 hate

00:57:14.560 the

00:57:14.700 government

00:57:15.060 I mean

00:57:16.140 yeah

00:57:17.420 and they're

00:57:18.460 both right

00:57:19.100 but the

00:57:20.840 implication being

00:57:21.740 they're both

00:57:22.660 idiots

00:57:23.040 because they

00:57:23.840 can only

00:57:24.180 see half

00:57:24.680 the picture

00:57:25.160 it's the

00:57:26.380 mega mega

00:57:26.940 size

00:57:27.740 and the

00:57:28.120 control

00:57:28.640 that emanates

00:57:29.500 from both

00:57:30.000 areas

00:57:30.580 you know

00:57:32.320 working in

00:57:32.880 conjunction

00:57:33.280 with each

00:57:33.740 other

00:57:34.040 that creates

00:57:35.280 the problem

00:57:35.880 so

00:57:37.240 there is

00:57:38.420 you know

00:57:39.000 there are

00:57:40.540 alternatives

00:57:41.340 on the

00:57:41.960 left

00:57:42.240 alternatives

00:57:42.860 on the

00:57:43.320 right

00:57:43.580 and you

00:57:45.160 you can't

00:57:47.080 get in

00:57:47.500 even if you

00:57:48.060 wanted to

00:57:48.740 unless you

00:57:49.640 tow the

00:57:50.160 party line

00:57:50.880 so yeah

00:57:52.620 there is

00:57:54.080 definitely

00:57:54.600 that happening

00:57:57.200 in the

00:57:58.740 alternative

00:57:59.160 media

00:57:59.520 and the

00:57:59.860 one thing

00:58:00.240 that I

00:58:00.660 I'll say

00:58:02.960 I rarely

00:58:03.680 find it

00:58:04.500 in the

00:58:04.840 alternative

00:58:05.220 media

00:58:05.760 is

00:58:07.020 an

00:58:11.540 understanding

00:58:12.300 of

00:58:13.840 this

00:58:14.500 war

00:58:18.080 between

00:58:18.640 the

00:58:19.100 artist

00:58:19.380 and the

00:58:19.760 system

00:58:20.080 between

00:58:20.880 the

00:58:21.180 individual

00:58:21.700 with all

00:58:23.320 you know

00:58:24.660 all power

00:58:25.980 there

00:58:26.840 theoretically

00:58:28.060 versus the

00:58:29.020 collective

00:58:29.400 with all

00:58:30.020 power

00:58:30.440 there

00:58:30.840 if you

00:58:32.540 start to

00:58:33.420 paint that

00:58:35.000 in stark

00:58:35.960 enough

00:58:36.280 terms

00:58:36.880 a whole

00:58:38.660 lot of

00:58:39.020 people

00:58:39.380 that are

00:58:40.420 consider themselves

00:58:41.520 alternative

00:58:42.100 are going to

00:58:42.600 reject you

00:58:43.260 oh yeah

00:58:43.820 they don't like

00:58:44.860 that at all

00:58:45.440 they do not

00:58:47.040 like that at all

00:58:47.800 so I'm

00:58:48.700 gathering from

00:58:49.540 this conversation

00:58:50.560 here that

00:58:51.520 you've been

00:58:51.920 through a lot

00:58:52.520 of this

00:58:52.840 yourself

00:58:53.280 you know

00:58:54.340 what I'm

00:58:54.620 talking about

00:58:55.240 and you

00:58:57.080 know this is

00:58:57.520 what happens

00:58:58.140 you know

00:58:59.140 because it's

00:59:00.120 harder to

00:59:01.300 to deal

00:59:02.620 with it

00:59:02.980 on the

00:59:03.300 stark

00:59:03.580 level

00:59:03.920 you know

00:59:05.460 it's much

00:59:06.000 easier if you

00:59:06.800 sort of melt

00:59:07.460 in the edges

00:59:08.260 on both

00:59:08.900 and you try

00:59:09.500 to meet in

00:59:10.020 the middle

00:59:10.540 and let's

00:59:11.100 compromise

00:59:11.680 and you know

00:59:12.760 it's not that

00:59:13.720 bad

00:59:14.200 and you know

00:59:15.520 all of this

00:59:16.100 kind of

00:59:17.200 insanity

00:59:17.740 and people

00:59:20.480 stake out

00:59:21.140 these kind

00:59:21.960 of compromised

00:59:22.620 positions

00:59:23.180 and then you

00:59:23.940 come on the

00:59:24.540 scene

00:59:24.880 and they take

00:59:25.820 one look at

00:59:26.320 you and they

00:59:26.740 run screaming

00:59:27.320 into the night

00:59:28.000 they don't want

00:59:28.980 to have anything

00:59:29.420 to do with

00:59:29.980 you

00:59:30.200 but from

00:59:33.120 my own

00:59:33.500 experience

00:59:33.960 I have to

00:59:34.660 say

00:59:35.020 and this

00:59:35.720 has been

00:59:37.000 the last

00:59:38.900 maybe two

00:59:40.220 years

00:59:40.760 the audience

00:59:42.920 for my work

00:59:43.560 has been

00:59:44.060 expanding

00:59:44.600 geometrically

00:59:45.440 so

00:59:47.820 they're out

00:59:49.120 there

00:59:49.500 individuals

00:59:51.260 they're looking

00:59:53.880 for

00:59:54.720 something

00:59:56.660 that isn't

00:59:57.240 just the easy

00:59:57.940 way out

00:59:58.600 they've

01:00:01.060 reached the

01:00:01.540 end of

01:00:01.840 their tether

01:00:02.400 they've

01:00:03.840 got nowhere

01:00:04.420 to go

01:00:05.060 and they

01:00:07.380 want

01:00:07.960 to find

01:00:09.020 more answers

01:00:10.160 than they

01:00:10.600 found

01:00:11.020 themselves

01:00:11.580 and the

01:00:13.460 number of

01:00:14.060 these people

01:00:14.740 is much

01:00:15.860 greater than

01:00:16.500 I ever

01:00:17.020 imagined

01:00:17.560 except

01:00:19.440 you see

01:00:20.980 because

01:00:21.440 they're

01:00:21.780 individuals

01:00:22.320 you can't

01:00:23.700 find them

01:00:24.300 in one

01:00:24.660 place

01:00:25.120 and they

01:00:25.740 stay

01:00:25.920 quieter

01:00:26.320 they're

01:00:26.580 not

01:00:26.740 commenting

01:00:27.140 on other

01:00:27.600 people's

01:00:28.040 stuff

01:00:28.260 all the

01:00:28.520 time

01:00:28.920 that's

01:00:29.800 right

01:00:30.040 yeah

01:00:30.780 they're too

01:00:31.280 busy

01:00:31.480 making

01:00:31.780 their own

01:00:32.220 yeah

01:00:33.460 that's

01:00:34.040 right

01:00:34.300 that's

01:00:35.660 right

01:00:35.840 that's

01:00:36.120 what

01:00:36.260 they're

01:00:36.400 doing

01:00:36.720 but

01:00:37.760 they

01:00:38.080 also

01:00:38.460 feel

01:00:39.080 the

01:00:40.600 pinch

01:00:40.920 and the

01:00:41.220 pressure

01:00:41.560 they can

01:00:42.700 see what's

01:00:43.200 coming down

01:00:43.640 the pipeline

01:00:44.180 and

01:00:46.020 they want

01:00:47.120 out

01:00:47.520 and if

01:00:48.460 they're

01:00:48.640 already out

01:00:49.220 they want

01:00:49.620 to get

01:00:49.880 further out

01:00:50.600 than out

01:00:51.100 they want

01:00:53.140 something

01:00:53.640 beyond

01:00:55.580 where they've

01:00:56.740 arrived at

01:00:57.700 themselves

01:00:58.160 and

01:01:00.720 when I

01:01:01.280 wrote the

01:01:01.600 secret behind

01:01:02.100 secret societies

01:01:03.000 I

01:01:05.460 said

01:01:06.980 you know

01:01:07.920 there are

01:01:08.180 two great

01:01:08.780 themes in

01:01:10.740 history

01:01:11.160 in

01:01:11.520 hidden

01:01:12.120 history

01:01:12.540 unwritten

01:01:12.980 history

01:01:13.460 the formula

01:01:14.580 of the

01:01:14.900 secret society

01:01:15.620 and the

01:01:15.980 tradition of

01:01:16.500 imagination

01:01:17.120 the tradition

01:01:18.640 of imagination

01:01:19.340 is not to be

01:01:20.320 found in one

01:01:21.100 place in one

01:01:21.780 time or one

01:01:22.580 group

01:01:22.940 but

01:01:23.780 conscious or

01:01:25.380 unconscious

01:01:25.900 you will see

01:01:26.960 it embodied

01:01:27.540 in every artist

01:01:28.380 who's ever lived

01:01:29.060 on the planet

01:01:29.680 you'll see it

01:01:31.920 in other places

01:01:32.760 here and there

01:01:33.840 throughout history

01:01:35.440 and that

01:01:36.960 tradition is of

01:01:37.940 the individual

01:01:38.600 and individual

01:01:39.840 power as

01:01:41.180 expressed through

01:01:42.040 creative force

01:01:43.120 which is really

01:01:44.200 the only way

01:01:44.880 that it can be

01:01:45.520 expressed

01:01:46.020 ultimately

01:01:48.220 because that

01:01:49.640 way invents

01:01:50.600 new realities

01:01:51.680 and so

01:01:54.220 if people want

01:01:56.300 to think about

01:01:56.780 something esoteric

01:01:57.880 if we were to

01:01:58.960 look at the

01:01:59.340 future of the

01:02:00.080 planet and

01:02:00.700 imagine for a

01:02:01.580 moment that we

01:02:02.800 were seeing

01:02:04.300 let's say

01:02:05.140 50 million

01:02:07.280 individuals

01:02:09.960 each equipped

01:02:11.440 remembering

01:02:12.780 knowing

01:02:13.440 being able to

01:02:14.760 deploy his

01:02:16.120 or her own

01:02:16.920 creative power

01:02:17.940 and imagination

01:02:18.580 to the fullest

01:02:19.460 to create reality

01:02:20.680 what kind of

01:02:22.020 future would we

01:02:23.160 actually encounter

01:02:24.340 up the road

01:02:25.580 and the first

01:02:27.800 thing that we

01:02:28.960 would know is

01:02:29.980 it would not

01:02:30.980 be one

01:02:31.560 future

01:02:32.040 and that's

01:02:33.080 one of the

01:02:33.520 things that

01:02:34.200 people can't

01:02:35.060 you know

01:02:35.360 who are

01:02:36.080 incapable of

01:02:38.120 thinking it

01:02:38.640 through can't

01:02:39.740 handle because

01:02:41.420 they can't

01:02:42.420 fit it into

01:02:43.140 a deep picture

01:02:43.900 what we will

01:02:45.020 see is a

01:02:46.440 multiplicity of

01:02:47.880 powerful realities

01:02:49.380 replacing centralized

01:02:50.760 reality that we

01:02:51.980 know today

01:02:52.720 and it will

01:02:54.280 be at every

01:02:55.440 single possible

01:02:56.560 level that you

01:02:57.380 can conceive

01:02:58.080 of the

01:02:59.680 decentralization

01:03:00.740 of power

01:03:01.400 will be so

01:03:02.260 enormous that

01:03:03.740 we wouldn't

01:03:04.320 even recognize

01:03:05.300 that future

01:03:06.460 compared

01:03:07.300 contrasted with

01:03:08.820 what we've got

01:03:09.460 now or ever

01:03:10.400 had before

01:03:11.280 it would not

01:03:13.560 be one

01:03:15.460 thing to

01:03:16.220 repeat myself

01:03:17.080 it would be

01:03:18.000 millions of

01:03:18.940 different things

01:03:19.900 each so

01:03:21.500 extraordinarily

01:03:22.680 powerful

01:03:23.480 that space

01:03:25.300 and time

01:03:25.960 as we know

01:03:26.740 it would not

01:03:27.380 exist in the

01:03:28.080 same way

01:03:28.520 anymore

01:03:29.000 that would be

01:03:29.720 fantastic

01:03:30.220 yeah

01:03:31.720 that's

01:03:32.780 that's what

01:03:34.520 I'm looking

01:03:34.960 at

01:03:35.260 as we begin

01:03:37.420 to wrap up

01:03:38.180 here I wanted

01:03:38.660 to read one

01:03:39.620 more line from

01:03:40.340 the artist

01:03:40.900 against the

01:03:41.380 system

01:03:41.680 you say

01:03:42.880 the artist

01:03:43.880 isn't looking

01:03:44.540 for the one

01:03:45.200 thing that will

01:03:45.900 unite us all

01:03:46.760 under a banner

01:03:47.320 of harmony

01:03:47.840 he knows all

01:03:48.640 such harmonies

01:03:49.300 wear out and

01:03:50.020 are eventually

01:03:50.500 co-opted to

01:03:51.380 produce mass

01:03:52.140 hypnosis

01:03:52.840 yeah

01:03:55.140 absolutely

01:03:56.800 absolutely

01:03:58.060 that's what

01:03:59.120 somewhere in

01:04:05.720 the human

01:04:06.100 mind

01:04:06.660 there is a

01:04:08.340 tendency to

01:04:09.400 appreciate

01:04:10.260 the aesthetics

01:04:12.060 of harmony

01:04:13.760 symmetry

01:04:14.420 balance

01:04:15.380 equilibrium

01:04:16.140 ordinary

01:04:20.160 perspective

01:04:21.360 so to speak

01:04:22.460 from the

01:04:22.840 painter's

01:04:23.200 point of

01:04:23.580 view

01:04:23.740 the

01:04:25.840 classical

01:04:26.800 elements

01:04:27.700 geometry

01:04:31.100 geometric

01:04:31.820 shapes

01:04:32.480 and so on

01:04:33.180 these can be

01:04:37.520 tapped into

01:04:38.440 and they are

01:04:39.140 tapped into

01:04:40.020 by

01:04:40.640 not only

01:04:43.020 classical

01:04:43.720 artists

01:04:44.360 but by

01:04:45.460 controllers

01:04:46.740 of the

01:04:47.180 mind

01:04:47.580 who know

01:04:49.160 that people

01:04:50.620 have this

01:04:51.600 sector

01:04:54.440 let's say

01:04:55.200 in their

01:04:56.840 psyche

01:04:57.400 that is

01:04:59.100 very much

01:04:59.960 attracted to

01:05:00.680 that

01:05:00.940 attracted to

01:05:02.640 that

01:05:02.800 especially

01:05:03.180 harmony

01:05:03.720 and so

01:05:04.760 if you

01:05:05.200 show

01:05:05.480 harmony

01:05:05.920 to people

01:05:06.500 over and

01:05:07.060 over and

01:05:07.380 over again

01:05:07.860 in pictorial

01:05:08.520 form

01:05:09.100 in verbal

01:05:09.580 form

01:05:09.980 whatever it

01:05:10.540 is

01:05:10.820 in many

01:05:12.280 different

01:05:12.580 ways

01:05:13.020 from the

01:05:14.120 crudest to

01:05:14.720 the most

01:05:15.040 subtle

01:05:15.360 you will

01:05:16.520 attract

01:05:16.980 an audience

01:05:18.040 and so

01:05:20.240 I have

01:05:20.960 observed

01:05:21.460 the most

01:05:22.020 incredible

01:05:22.900 towering

01:05:24.360 tonnage

01:05:24.800 of bullshit

01:05:25.360 being presented

01:05:27.080 to people

01:05:27.660 which they

01:05:28.220 buy

01:05:28.580 they buy

01:05:30.740 it as

01:05:31.440 ultimate

01:05:31.920 reality

01:05:32.600 not as

01:05:33.840 something

01:05:34.240 interesting

01:05:35.120 not as

01:05:36.200 one of

01:05:37.080 many

01:05:37.520 possible

01:05:38.200 ways

01:05:38.900 of

01:05:39.400 deploying

01:05:40.580 imagination

01:05:41.220 and creating

01:05:41.900 but as

01:05:42.400 something

01:05:42.740 ultimate

01:05:43.220 such as

01:05:43.920 sacred

01:05:44.260 geometry

01:05:44.780 for example

01:05:45.500 which has

01:05:46.460 become

01:05:46.780 very big

01:05:47.400 among the

01:05:47.880 new age

01:05:48.280 spiritual

01:05:48.820 crowd

01:05:49.300 because

01:05:49.740 yeah

01:05:50.080 the physical

01:05:51.100 universe

01:05:51.600 happens to

01:05:52.540 repeat

01:05:53.020 mathematical

01:05:54.060 patterns

01:05:54.880 isn't that

01:05:55.960 interesting

01:05:56.420 is it

01:05:57.840 ultimate

01:05:58.340 spirit

01:05:59.100 of some

01:05:59.640 kind

01:06:00.020 are you

01:06:00.440 out of

01:06:00.820 your

01:06:01.000 mind

01:06:01.640 but

01:06:02.940 it can

01:06:03.440 be couched

01:06:04.200 in terms

01:06:04.900 of

01:06:05.340 immense

01:06:06.740 discovery

01:06:07.460 awesome

01:06:09.800 knowledge

01:06:11.620 which if

01:06:13.160 we attach

01:06:13.820 ourselves

01:06:14.360 to

01:06:14.760 like

01:06:16.400 ants

01:06:17.200 to

01:06:17.440 honey

01:06:17.740 we can

01:06:19.320 become

01:06:19.920 spiritually

01:06:20.680 transformed

01:06:21.440 and once

01:06:21.940 again

01:06:22.340 enter into

01:06:23.560 the collective

01:06:24.200 consciousness

01:06:24.820 of the

01:06:25.280 universe

01:06:25.640 which has

01:06:26.320 been only

01:06:26.860 waiting for

01:06:27.540 us to

01:06:27.980 arrive

01:06:28.560 etc.

01:06:29.660 etc.

01:06:30.960 this is

01:06:31.980 a complete

01:06:34.280 deception

01:06:34.780 this is

01:06:36.480 preying

01:06:37.140 upon

01:06:37.720 an impulse

01:06:39.260 a human

01:06:39.780 impulse

01:06:40.260 to appreciate

01:06:41.220 harmony

01:06:41.900 symmetry

01:06:43.000 balance

01:06:43.640 equilibrium

01:06:44.260 geometry

01:06:45.980 etc.

01:06:46.700 etc.

01:06:47.080 etc.

01:06:47.400 and

01:06:49.080 it is

01:06:50.240 one of

01:06:50.600 the

01:06:50.780 weapons

01:06:51.200 of

01:06:51.460 psychological

01:06:51.960 warfare

01:06:52.580 wow

01:06:55.880 John

01:06:57.760 I want

01:06:58.020 to thank

01:06:58.320 you for

01:06:58.580 your time

01:06:58.980 today

01:06:59.240 this has

01:06:59.620 been

01:06:59.860 great

01:07:00.360 for me

01:07:00.820 and

01:07:01.640 great

01:07:01.900 for me

01:07:02.260 too

01:07:02.600 and

01:07:03.100 I

01:07:05.080 thought

01:07:06.240 well I

01:07:06.960 didn't

01:07:07.140 think

01:07:07.420 I had

01:07:07.700 no

01:07:07.880 preconceptions

01:07:08.560 but

01:07:09.060 you know

01:07:11.120 now that

01:07:13.080 we've had

01:07:13.500 this discussion

01:07:14.140 I could

01:07:14.820 probably

01:07:15.100 turn around

01:07:15.680 and interview

01:07:16.160 you

01:07:16.660 and

01:07:17.860 find out

01:07:19.580 some

01:07:19.820 fascinating

01:07:20.520 things

01:07:21.440 so

01:07:22.880 I

01:07:23.420 appreciate

01:07:23.820 the time

01:07:26.060 and the

01:07:26.660 conversation

01:07:27.220 will you

01:07:27.880 also please

01:07:28.360 mention

01:07:28.660 your

01:07:28.920 websites

01:07:29.460 and any

01:07:30.120 other

01:07:30.280 details

01:07:30.660 you'd like

01:07:30.960 to mention

01:07:31.400 sure

01:07:32.620 nomorefakenews.com

01:07:36.000 it's been

01:07:36.380 around now

01:07:37.140 for I guess

01:07:38.680 12 years

01:07:39.460 and you'll

01:07:41.020 see right

01:07:41.480 on the

01:07:41.740 home page

01:07:42.460 all my

01:07:43.380 recent

01:07:43.700 articles

01:07:44.240 I write

01:07:44.840 articles

01:07:45.480 frequently

01:07:47.240 and you'll

01:07:48.940 also see

01:07:49.660 a couple

01:07:50.180 of graphics

01:07:50.740 about

01:07:51.800 the two

01:07:52.660 collections

01:07:53.460 that people

01:07:54.480 can order

01:07:55.000 and they

01:07:56.200 are the

01:07:56.540 matrix

01:07:56.880 revealed

01:07:57.440 and exit

01:07:58.480 from the

01:07:59.080 matrix

01:07:59.420 so that's

01:08:01.220 basically it

01:08:02.000 all right

01:08:03.360 thank you

01:08:03.780 John

01:08:04.100 thank you

01:08:05.080 so much

01:08:05.620 and to

01:08:06.220 everyone

01:08:06.480 listening

01:08:06.900 thank you

01:08:07.800 stay creative

01:08:08.480 and have

01:08:08.860 some fun

01:08:09.240 outside the

01:08:09.820 matrix

01:08:10.080 this evening

01:08:10.580 we'll talk

01:08:11.020 again soon

01:08:13.700 into

01:08:14.760 a

01:08:16.560 k

01:08:43.700 Thank you.

01:09:13.700 Thank you.

01:09:43.700 Thank you.

01:10:13.700 Thank you.

01:10:43.700 Thank you.

01:11:13.700 Thank you.

01:11:43.700 Thank you.

Radio 3Fourteen - May 02, 2013

The Artist Against the System

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