Radio 3Fourteen - The Female Principle

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.

00:00:45.880 Greetings, this is Lana. My guest today is Zulma Rayo. Zulma Rayo has a BA in Romance Languages and Literature and an MA in Education, both from New York University.

00:00:55.500 She carried out post-grad studies in psychology and counseling. Zulma is the author of 11 books.

00:01:01.620 She incorporates an understanding of the practice of various esoteric matters and certain wisdom traditions from the past and aims to bring these to life integrated into a 21st century way.

00:01:12.120 She'll be speaking at the Conference for Consciousness and Human Evolution in London, taking place on August 25th, 26th, and 27th.

00:01:19.240 You can find the link for the conference on this interview's webpage. Welcome, Zulma. How are you today?

00:01:25.060 I'm fine, Lana. Thank you.

00:01:26.680 Where does the name Zulma come from?

00:01:29.160 Oh, it's one of my mother's pretensions. 1.00

00:01:31.600 It was Stendhal in this 19th century kind of romantic heroine, and it also means Solomon.

00:01:41.620 Oh, nice.

00:01:42.880 It's one of the forms of Suleyman. 0.99

00:01:44.720 Oh, that makes sense. Okay.

00:01:45.980 I'd like to discuss the spirit of your most recent book, The Inner Woman, and dive into the female principle.

00:01:52.080 But first, many say we're coming to the end of a great masculine evolutionary cycle and entering the female cycle.

00:01:58.020 Can you tell us about the traits and manifestations of the masculine cycle first?

00:02:02.780 Okay, yes.

00:02:03.620 That will be in part of my presentation.

00:02:06.120 There is still 400 years left, more or less, but that is nothing compared to the great movements that we've always followed as humanity.

00:02:16.460 Now, the masculine traits are direction, directional.

00:02:21.420 They are form-giving, creative, expansive, defining.

00:02:28.160 I think that's about it.

00:02:29.540 And the female is the quality. 0.99

00:02:31.820 It's the concentric kind of force.

00:02:36.640 It's the collective.

00:02:37.700 It's the unit, the group, the spirit, the irrational, not so much directional, but the quality of life,

00:02:48.700 the quality of the sentient intelligence more than the cognitive intelligence, which is more male.

00:02:56.440 I see.

00:02:56.620 Obviously, we have both, but when one dominates over the other, you get it influencing more directly cultural and earth manifestations.

00:03:09.460 So, what are some of the good and some of the bad that we see coming from the male cycle currently?

00:03:15.780 Oh, there's good and bad from both sides.

00:03:17.740 It is just that it is time.

00:03:21.060 It is time to welcome and understand, I should say.

00:03:26.600 Before you can welcome, you have to understand what you're welcoming.

00:03:29.280 And the feminine is fairly absent in our society. 0.85

00:03:33.100 It has been kept in the role of a support to the male, which is something we can do very well, and we will always do in a way.

00:03:42.260 But it is not recognized.

00:03:44.380 Women do not recognize that force that they are, that we are. 1.00

00:03:48.900 And by the feminine, I mean we are more like the background rather than the subject that is perceiving.

00:03:59.040 And we are always this receptive field.

00:04:02.320 I'm talking about morphic fields in the presentation that influence one another, is being influenced and influences one another.

00:04:10.300 And we are that constant mutating influence that is highly receptive, both on the cosmic and planetary energy levels.

00:04:21.800 And the man is the one, or the male, is a force that gives it a form, a direction, and a meaning.

00:04:28.080 So, obviously, both are very important.

00:04:29.840 But at the moment, because the female is lacking or absent, there is a preponderance towards the let's do it, let's look for form to do it.

00:04:41.440 I'm constantly writing in my blog, for example, that we need to just put a stop to all this simulation in corporations, but not just corporations, everywhere.

00:04:52.920 We are pretending that we are doing noble things, and if we keep labeling them and not living them, there is a big gap between this labeling and living.

00:05:04.840 Unless we live it as the immediate present, it is something like we have talked for decades now, more than that, about meditation.

00:05:14.680 But it seems like it's something apart from life, you know, like life has to go on, money has to go on, the forms, the corporations, the business have to go on.

00:05:25.420 But, yes, of course they do.

00:05:26.660 But without the fondo, without the depth of a conscious, sentient life, which is what I'm calling the feminine principle, the forms are ridiculous.

00:05:42.100 They just keep getting more and more grotesque without really anything changing.

00:05:46.960 There's lots of talk about group consciousness, about ideals, about flexibility, etc., etc., lots of coined terms.

00:05:56.660 But there is really no difference in the structure of things, and male, man, is responsible for the structure.

00:06:07.820 Unless he can make a break, unless he can give a pause and welcome the feminine energy, which he will never understand, we love, but there is, I mean, we're just like, you know, parallel universes.

00:06:23.000 But that's fine.

00:06:23.700 So, the thing is that I am not putting the responsibility on men.

00:06:29.700 The responsibility really is on women now to understand ourselves and be that which we can be.

00:06:36.760 And I think both men and women are waiting for that.

00:06:39.900 I think so, too.

00:06:41.080 So, what is the deciding force that says it's time to shift gears into a new evolutionary cycle?

00:06:46.080 Well, I think it's evident, Lana.

00:06:50.040 There's not a decisive moment.

00:06:52.660 It's getting more and more impossible to continue a cohesive life force.

00:07:01.440 I mean, the planet itself is complaining.

00:07:04.180 The ecosphere is complaining.

00:07:06.080 All our structures, the whole monetary system, everything is complaining, hey, there's something missing.

00:07:12.200 And they just keep patching it up with the same solutions.

00:07:16.740 And they're not working.

00:07:18.340 Somewhere, you know, I see the direction is coming from the people themselves, but there is no understanding of it, which is usually the feminine method. 0.97

00:07:27.940 We just go ahead and feel, and we're not quite sure how this is defined or how you label it, you know.

00:07:35.540 But there's mass movements everywhere of people here in Spain, of the people who are just sitting in.

00:07:42.460 In my generation, we would call them, we would sit in.

00:07:45.440 They're protesting, but they don't want another system.

00:07:48.800 They're protesting something, and they don't even know what it is.

00:07:51.260 And we're protesting, all of us, within ourselves, for a change, for a more qualitative experience of life, and the processes of life, and the forms of life that are flexible.

00:08:07.460 Okay?

00:08:09.180 So, I'm not sure I'm coming past it.

00:08:12.100 Yeah, no, you answered the question, definitely.

00:08:14.600 Masculine or feminine?

00:08:15.960 It's a lot more than appearance.

00:08:17.200 Can you tell us what these involve on deeper levels?

00:08:21.260 Yes, it involves a force.

00:08:23.760 Now, perhaps I should just pause a moment and tell you where I'm coming from.

00:08:27.380 I'm coming from years and years and years.

00:08:30.240 I'm 68 years old, so I'm not a young girl, and I've been working for the last 40.

00:08:36.780 And all my life, I've had perceptions of what energy fields are about.

00:08:41.640 And I've been working for the last 40 with men and women, training in perception, in what is really subjacent to the appearance world.

00:08:51.940 And all of this that we are constantly in an interaction with.

00:08:55.240 It influences us, and we influence it.

00:08:57.340 And so, I'm coming from that, from years of laboratory work with both men and women.

00:09:05.020 So, for me, the thing is that we needed to make more of a synthesis and somehow communicate, convey to humanity,

00:09:16.840 hey, there's something else in what you're just looking at in a gross material way, and feeling and sentience.

00:09:23.580 So, the female is more attuned to this.

00:09:27.400 But, as I said, for the same reasons that we've progressed, we have also not been able to connect with what this really is about.

00:09:37.040 So, we've progressed in the sense of education.

00:09:40.160 But the education, remember, is linear.

00:09:42.320 It's the consensus education for men and women.

00:09:44.680 It's the same.

00:09:45.520 So, we can do the same things.

00:09:47.260 But that which we are good at, there is no recognition.

00:09:50.980 It's not, it's just not acknowledged because it's not, people don't know about it.

00:09:58.920 You know, you like, you put it over onto feelings and emotions, and it's not that.

00:10:04.380 It is a whole sentience which is developed in the female. 1.00

00:10:08.520 Now, why is it in the female? 0.99

00:10:10.300 This is like part of the point, the crowning point in my presentation.

00:10:16.860 It's really because of the way we're built physically.

00:10:20.540 The energies reverberate in us according to our, frankly, our cervix.

00:10:27.440 And this is going to determine the way that all our energies work in the physical level.

00:10:32.800 Physical, I also include psychological, which is a conception of the physical world through waves of emotion,

00:10:42.540 you know, sentience, and our application of the mind.

00:10:48.740 But we will be in a direct touch.

00:10:52.540 Now, men are in touch also, but they're in touch in a different way,

00:10:56.640 in a way that will serve the formal or the form aspect,

00:11:01.720 the significance, meaning, giving aspect of life.

00:11:07.160 And this goes really, really far.

00:11:08.720 Do you want me to keep on talking?

00:11:09.600 This is great. I'm enjoying it.

00:11:13.100 I wanted to ask, though, have most women been programmed with ideas of what is feminine consciousness? 1.00

00:11:19.560 Or is it something that's fairly accurate that we're intuitively picking up on within us?

00:11:26.040 No.

00:11:26.960 This is something I'm struggling with constantly, daily.

00:11:30.160 It's the programming.

00:11:31.240 Well, we both have it, men and women.

00:11:32.540 But we are responding mentally to a program that is not correct.

00:11:39.940 I mean, to a program that is not seizing or, you know, grasping the reality of what we really are about.

00:11:50.140 So we're supposed to be doing things.

00:11:51.620 So a woman defines herself according to, same as men, according to what they do, what they appear, 0.65

00:11:57.680 and not the quality that we bring.

00:11:59.540 And yet it is this quality that allows the male world, the formal aspect,

00:12:03.960 to do and be what they are and what they're doing.

00:12:08.460 But we go by, I mean, we go along unrecognized.

00:12:14.600 And this is what I said, the background versus the foreground,

00:12:19.700 the background of influence and quality versus the defining point or line of evolution.

00:12:29.720 And in my presentation, I will describe it as the difference between evolution and consciousness.

00:12:37.420 I mean, one thinks evolution is everything, but really evolution more reflects the development of matter,

00:12:45.540 the expansion, excuse me, yeah, the growth, the development of matter and consciousness

00:12:50.960 refers to an intelligent aspect.

00:12:54.200 And the human being contains both.

00:12:57.480 And we're not used to treating these as something separate.

00:13:01.740 We think everything comes from the brain and from the words and from information.

00:13:05.960 And it doesn't.

00:13:08.240 Do you think before we entered a body, we chose which gender we wanted to be?

00:13:12.500 Oh, absolutely.

00:13:13.460 We want the different experiences, yes.

00:13:16.820 And this is, well, it depends.

00:13:19.260 Yeah, yeah, okay.

00:13:21.400 Yeah, yes, we do.

00:13:23.160 Okay.

00:13:23.920 And we see images all the time of gods and goddesses.

00:13:26.520 Do you think there's a version of gender beyond the physical realm?

00:13:29.700 Does God have a gender? 0.93

00:13:31.420 No, of course not.

00:13:32.900 Now, these, you see, when I speak of gender difference,

00:13:37.700 I'm speaking of really our expression and our path in incarnation, in a body.

00:13:44.300 I'm speaking of the material reality.

00:13:46.860 Once we reach a certain level, we are genderless.

00:13:50.580 It's not that we have both genders.

00:13:52.540 Right, right.

00:13:53.060 But we're beyond gender.

00:13:55.100 It's like when we meet at the heart, there's sometimes we don't even realize that there's

00:13:59.840 any feeling in the body.

00:14:01.300 It's just not there.

00:14:02.100 It's irrelevant.

00:14:02.620 And when we develop in meditation and in the consciousness development, we come to a point where there

00:14:11.320 is no gender difference, but that also means that the gender stops acting as a polarity in

00:14:18.220 the physical world of matter.

00:14:19.660 I mean, we, excuse me, among one another.

00:14:22.140 So you lose the interest for sex.

00:14:24.500 And this is not something that most people are lost.

00:14:28.920 It takes away the juiciness of our experience.

00:14:34.120 So what is the female principle and what does it mean for our civilization? 1.00

00:14:38.120 The feminine principle is the principle of intelligence, of sentient intelligence, the principle of quality, the principle 0.97

00:14:50.080 of simultaneity.

00:14:51.880 Let me just give you a very brief parallel in remote antiquity.

00:14:57.720 And we only know this through images and through some people who are gifted enough to intuit it and some people

00:15:06.000 who are scholarly enough to go beyond the obvious writings about it.

00:15:10.760 The ancient Egyptian, the ancient, including Mesoamerican and the Indian, certainly the whole Hindu, Sanskrit, Vedic tradition, sorry. 0.99

00:15:22.920 They will point to times where mind worked in a different way.

00:15:27.120 People were perhaps the most, the best examples we have of that are in the Egyptian vein.

00:15:35.020 People would think through images and see opposites at the same time.

00:15:40.200 For example, Osiris and Seth, the good and the evil, they were seen as one concept, not as two, one good and one bad.

00:15:49.720 People thought in simultaneity.

00:15:52.400 They thought in terms of parallels, as above, so below, which is a hermetic law.

00:15:58.120 They thought differently.

00:15:59.580 The thinking mind worked in a different way.

00:16:02.280 It worked in a holistic way.

00:16:03.840 And my, in my presentation anyway, or my point is that this holistic way is what we're lacking now.

00:16:12.280 It's the feminine way. 1.00

00:16:13.820 We see things in part.

00:16:15.760 And through a glass, a very dark glass, through a glass darkly, we don't see the whole as being a necessary and, you know, just a holistic unit.

00:16:29.240 Yeah, it's very out of balance right now.

00:16:33.020 So when you speak of the female principle, are you talking about balancing also the two, the male and the female, within us right now as we move into a female cycle?

00:16:43.180 Okay, Lana, we can't balance it.

00:16:44.980 We can't do it.

00:16:46.300 We have to become it.

00:16:47.960 And there's a very slight difference there.

00:16:49.520 It seems like I'm picking on words.

00:16:51.060 But it's like if we're talking about balance, we're going to sing, well, we have to do something feminine and do something masculine and appear something feminine and appear something masculine.

00:16:59.880 It is actually just diving in.

00:17:02.480 It's like a sliding into an inner space, the inner woman or the inner man, which I'm calling the inner woman and I'm calling the feminine principle.

00:17:12.160 It is a question of being both without one or the other or one and another.

00:17:17.980 It's not addition.

00:17:18.800 It's a whole kind of multiplication.

00:17:22.280 It's like the same principle of, you've seen the symbol of yin and yang.

00:17:26.760 Okay, the Taoist symbol.

00:17:28.660 Now, it's become a caricature of what man and woman are.

00:17:34.080 And we're not yin.

00:17:35.760 We're both yin and yang.

00:17:37.360 And man is not yang.

00:17:38.780 He's both yin and yang.

00:17:39.940 And this misconception leads to more and more separation, more fragmentation, more doing, more appearance, more form-giving, and more male principle.

00:17:54.300 It's true.

00:17:55.140 You cannot teach a woman how to be feminine and have grace. 1.00

00:17:59.220 She either has it within her or she doesn't.

00:18:02.300 And, you know, another thing is that we don't have a masculine side.

00:18:07.000 Every time people tell me that.

00:18:08.340 I say, wait, hold it.

00:18:10.420 We have an aggressive yang side, but it's still very feminine.

00:18:15.120 And this, you know, this needs to be studied.

00:18:17.320 And the same thing with men.

00:18:18.460 I keep hearing, well, don't men have their feminine side? 0.99

00:18:21.900 I'm sorry, you don't.

00:18:23.020 You have your yin.

00:18:24.380 And it's lovely and it's very tender.

00:18:28.440 But it's not a question of who's better or who's worse.

00:18:32.580 We're all separate, different models.

00:18:36.520 So how did this holistic break?

00:18:38.760 I mean, from Egypt we had it.

00:18:40.300 Today we don't.

00:18:41.000 So what happened?

00:18:42.820 Well, I think it happened when, first of all, our bodies became denser, the whole composition of our physical bodies.

00:18:50.000 And as we became denser, let's say the proportion of light and matter in our very cells, in our constitution, kind of tipped over towards the denser aspect.

00:19:02.120 And I'm not seeing this as anything negative either.

00:19:04.420 I'm seeing it as a necessary evolutionary process as I do everything which apparently is not so nice.

00:19:11.280 I think it's still necessary.

00:19:13.740 In any event, we tipped it over.

00:19:16.100 And then there were times in ancient Egypt, for example, when the Hierophant and the ruler, the king, were the same person.

00:19:23.340 Then they divided into being two and became, you know, and started going to war with one another.

00:19:28.160 And that's the beginning of our modern age.

00:19:31.920 I see.

00:19:33.340 I think it would also be helpful to maybe run through some of the feminine archetypes. 0.97

00:19:39.240 Okay.

00:19:41.040 All right.

00:19:41.720 I base a lot on my kind of a Gnostic teaching, J-N-O-S-I-S-T-I-C, Gnostic, which is like the early Christian, which was based on the Egyptian.

00:19:55.960 And these archetypes there are at three stages.

00:20:00.880 There's the archetype of the woman as being a figure of light, of lightness, of joy.

00:20:08.160 She's the adolescent, the maiden. 1.00

00:20:11.700 She is the mother. 0.55

00:20:13.960 And she is the crone. 0.94

00:20:17.500 And the old woman.

00:20:20.440 And then there's the series of archetypes of darkness.

00:20:23.880 And this is where we're lacking in our world.

00:20:26.020 Because whenever I mention the world of dark, my students go, oh, really?

00:20:30.000 Or I don't really want to hear that.

00:20:33.760 We have a dark side.

00:20:35.780 Men have their dark side, too.

00:20:37.040 But our side is very witchy.

00:20:38.720 It's very psychic.

00:20:42.320 It's the underworld.

00:20:43.700 It's Persephone in the six months that she spends down there.

00:20:46.520 It's the calculating woman who deals, our aspect, that deals with the dead, with the whole decaying part of matter and evolution itself.

00:21:05.160 And then there'll be, there's three archetypes within that.

00:21:08.440 And then there'll be the last one, which is the Sophia, the wisdom, the one that incorporates all six of them or all, both aspects of the light and the dark within herself.

00:21:23.300 And so we'll see many archetypes that belong to one or the other or they belong to the third.

00:21:29.400 For example, the Kuan Yin, Virgin Mary, what was her name, these ethereal aspects of woman belong to the light side.

00:21:44.360 The Kali, you know, the Astarte will belong to the dark aspect of woman. 1.00

00:21:51.280 But the fact is that we're both the Sophia.

00:21:54.580 We are the wisdom, the serpent and the dove.

00:22:00.940 In your view, why has it been so difficult to balance both the male and female principles into our civilization? 0.63

00:22:06.780 How is it that the males have really taken over and why, what did they gain from suppressing the females?

00:22:14.420 Well, here I would correct you.

00:22:15.700 I don't think they're suppressing the females.

00:22:17.220 We do that.

00:22:17.960 We do a very good job of that ourselves.

00:22:20.340 I agree.

00:22:21.280 I agree with that.

00:22:22.020 Okay, we can say we're helpless, know that they, you know, they have their big boot on us.

00:22:26.580 Okay, but it's time to wake up.

00:22:28.080 We're intelligent enough.

00:22:29.180 We're sensible enough.

00:22:30.360 And most men, or many, many men, are very, very willing and open to hear what we are about.

00:22:38.560 They're waiting for us.

00:22:40.140 Evolution just can't go on any further until a woman awakens. 1.00

00:22:43.600 So I would not put the blame on men or on circumstances.

00:22:46.960 I think we have to change them.

00:22:48.760 And one of the things that I'm doing, and I hope to reach more and more people through programs like yours and other opportunities,

00:22:56.280 is to bring women not only the understanding of who and what she is, but to bring us together.

00:23:02.820 That we will exert upon the world the influence that we need to exert, not through fear or through ambition, but simply by our own presence, by who we are.

00:23:15.080 So it's a kind of a growth in consciousness.

00:23:18.520 And I feel, I know, that a group of women will be enough almost like to change the world, but it needs to be a very strong group. 1.00

00:23:25.980 So I'm calling everywhere.

00:23:28.080 I'm starting programs.

00:23:30.260 I'm doing, I have a retreat now at the end of October where I'm calling women and they're coming from different parts of the world.

00:23:37.360 I'm leading it in English and in Spanish, both languages.

00:23:40.740 And the idea is, hey, we need training.

00:23:43.800 We need perception.

00:23:45.040 We need to discover who and what we are.

00:23:47.400 And that's not just done through words.

00:23:49.680 My book is a call.

00:23:51.620 It's a very intimate call.

00:23:53.360 My book is called The Inner Woman.

00:23:56.780 But we need work.

00:23:58.640 We need to sit down.

00:23:59.900 And, okay, now take my hand and let's see.

00:24:02.020 This is what you're feeling.

00:24:03.220 Okay, let's go through this and let's change.

00:24:05.320 And now what is happening?

00:24:06.600 How can you change that?

00:24:08.000 What are the skills that you have as a woman? 1.00

00:24:11.340 And one of those skills is influence.

00:24:14.240 We've got a tremendous power of influence, which we use, if we use, you know, we use negatively.

00:24:21.320 It's for things we think we ought to want or things we want to feel good or whatever.

00:24:27.780 It's not the, you know, the human, humanity influence that we can be having.

00:24:35.200 Do you think that as this female cycle begins to kick in, we'll see more females in power positions? 1.00

00:24:43.100 Well, I think we're already seeing them.

00:24:44.840 But there's not enough consciousness as to what is really happening.

00:24:48.220 I'm not against it all.

00:24:49.280 And on the contrary, I rejoice every time I see a woman have some kind of an important office. 1.00

00:24:54.560 But there needs to be a parallel development within certain women who may not have these prominent positions, 1.00

00:25:01.200 but will exert the power that will support those women, that will inspire them, that will bring about the real changes.

00:25:08.900 Will women's sexuality or behavior be seen differently in a female cycle? 1.00

00:25:12.700 Because clearly in this male cycle, women on TV have been highly sexualized as objects. 1.00

00:25:18.140 Oh, my God, yes.

00:25:20.000 You can't influence.

00:25:21.180 You can't present anything unless you have good something.

00:25:25.620 Yes.

00:25:26.360 In the, well, women's sexuality is wonderful. 1.00

00:25:31.160 And it's a very intimate, very personal, very, it's a sacredness.

00:25:37.560 We have a temple and we are in touch with all the forces of the universe.

00:25:41.320 I used to teach tantra for couples and the woman's body is a temple. 1.00

00:25:47.380 So I imagine, I feel, I know that women's sexuality in a female cycle will be, will continue to be expressed as such.

00:25:57.880 But it is a private affair.

00:25:59.340 It is a sacred affair.

00:26:01.380 Like woman herself is a sacred vehicle. 1.00

00:26:05.520 The man is the, he's the one who holds the, what do you call it, the, the, the, the, the one who does the drawings.

00:26:13.840 But the woman is the, is the, she's the one upon which he paints, he gives form too.

00:26:20.380 And this is not going to change.

00:26:22.520 We can do everything we want to do.

00:26:24.620 And we are doing with our intellectual development and, and even physical abilities.

00:26:30.440 We become wrestlers, whatever.

00:26:32.480 But we will, that same quality of energy will be in the background and we will always be man and woman and we will always be attracted to one another.

00:26:42.520 We will always delight in matter, in, in, in, in the sexual experience, but in a different way.

00:26:50.060 It's not, see now it's a, it's a big, kind of an ad, you know, like I am good.

00:26:54.920 I am important.

00:26:55.840 So look at me and, and this is what I am, my body, my form, my.

00:27:00.880 Oh yeah, it's, it's just body worship today.

00:27:03.580 And, and a lot of women use their body to get, uh, you know, money, status, some really shallow things. 1.00

00:27:12.020 Absolutely.

00:27:12.940 And, uh, but you, we, we started, we had to start feeling sorry for them and hope to point to a different way.

00:27:19.220 Do you think also during a female cycle that maybe men would be sexualized more?

00:27:23.380 Um, I don't think either would be sexualized.

00:27:27.800 I think sex will be a natural, um, result of, uh, the experience of consciousness in matter.

00:27:35.000 Um, the, the, the, the male is, is very focused because he's focused on everything because he is a focus.

00:27:42.320 He has a focus, even the most dreamy, romantic, musician, whatever, artistic temperament of, of the male will still be focused on something, on doing and on creating.

00:27:54.740 This is, he can't help it.

00:27:55.620 This is what is pulling, pulling, uh, sorry, pushing him forward.

00:27:59.800 And, uh, so, so today, I mean, like doing the sex is, is, uh, something natural.

00:28:06.560 But just as you teach men or conscious women do, or they teach themselves, that sex is a lot more than penetration.

00:28:13.980 Um, and it is a whole experience that comes before and after and throughout and beyond the, the actual sexual act.

00:28:22.920 He will, he will, um, evolve also as, as women will evolve. 0.98

00:28:27.740 But I think the, a big key is going to be women. 1.00

00:28:30.140 If we stop exhibiting ourselves and selling ourselves for everything and anything,

00:28:36.160 if we start this horrible insecurity that we're prone to because of our structure and our, you know, absorbent, receptive structure,

00:28:45.800 we begin to understand it a little bit more, we will certainly contribute.

00:28:51.400 I agree.

00:28:52.280 I wanted to ask some more questions about this female cycle and some of the attributes that might be associated with it. 0.96

00:28:59.880 So what are some positive and negative traits of the female cycle? 0.99

00:29:06.100 Uh, there is no, um, I'm sorry.

00:29:10.800 I just think in a different way about positive and negative.

00:29:13.520 Um, uh, well, the woman tends to be very emotionally polarized, okay? 1.00

00:29:22.600 We're built this way.

00:29:24.980 It's not that we are, uh, deliberately more emotional because it's a good way of manipulating.

00:29:30.620 We are, we feel.

00:29:32.380 And so it's going to reverberate in our, in our worlds, in the way we lead our world.

00:29:37.400 And so the way we handle emotions now, I would say, is a negative or, you know, an undesirable expression of what our sentient abilities are about.

00:29:48.460 We manipulate a lot through it, through our emotions.

00:29:51.860 And men are so, I mean, they're, as we would say in a state, suckers for, you know, the, the, the, the weeping woman who needs them to protect them. 0.73

00:30:00.680 Um, and it's absurd, even in the refined, intelligent, intellectual men will still fall to that, you know, in that trap.

00:30:10.780 Uh, and we will also, there, there, there's another point to our anatomy or to our structure in the female is that, uh, our, our base center, our, our, our, what I was describing before as being the, the, uh, the cervix is, is, is, is very absorbent. 0.86

00:30:27.580 So wherever we are, no matter what we look like, and this is where the, uh, the traditions of covering us up and hiding us and, you know, keeping us in, under lock and key and putting a chastity belt around, is like, we're exerting that influence upon matter wherever we are.

00:30:44.780 So the negative expression of that is women's, and women's use by men of this, you know, of this feminine characteristic, um, a positive characteristic, I would say, is the, uh, the ability that we have to use our mind in a way that is non-linear as well as linear.

00:31:06.760 Or, let's say, combining both, um, if you will remember, the original goddesses, uh, the goddess of, of justice, of law, is Ma'at. 0.63

00:31:17.860 Mm-hmm.

00:31:18.680 And, uh, she's a female. 1.00

00:31:20.720 And, uh, she's the one who holds the scales and, and, and weighs the heart of the human being against a feather when, when they pass over into another dimensional reality.

00:31:31.140 And the, the, the, the, it's like, we, we think of the law of being, you know, Solomonic, um, the, the, the famous child who's held up by the hair, you know, and the two women arguing about, no, he's my child.

00:31:43.960 And Solomon says, well, I'm going to split it in half.

00:31:46.720 And the real mother says, no, let the other one have it. 1.00

00:31:49.940 So, it's this kind of, no, let the other one have it, sense of justice, that, uh, and fairness that women have inherently in them, if their sensibilities are aroused and they're aware to them, aware of them. 1.00

00:32:02.740 The, the, the, the, the male sense of justice will be, will be very fair, uh, it, it will be egalitarian, but it is based on the outside form, if, if I'm communicating correctly.

00:32:13.320 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:32:14.680 So, so do you think we're moving into a more peaceful, nurturing time?

00:32:17.820 Um, eventually, yes, we still have a lot of little and big, huge wars to go through, including our climate.

00:32:25.740 Um, we're still in a, in a very chaotic process, but yes, we are evolving towards that.

00:32:33.040 How does Mother Earth play into the female cycle? 1.00

00:32:36.300 Will Gaia also go through changes?

00:32:38.760 She's going through them right now.

00:32:40.240 This is what she's doing.

00:32:42.040 Just as every woman, in some one way or another, you, yourself, me, um, I think my wife,

00:32:47.820 students, we're all going through these changes that are not just bodily, they're psychological.

00:32:53.380 They're going to affect, matter affects our consciousness in a way that consciousness works within matter.

00:32:58.160 So, the women are going to be going through many, many, many changes, and Gaia is a, um, is a female entity. 0.99

00:33:07.500 Her body is, is female. 1.00

00:33:09.960 The nature is, is, is feminine. 0.99

00:33:11.920 The forms upon it, the, the, the, the law and order are the male custodianship of that, of that body.

00:33:19.720 But, uh, the Earth is going through tremendous changes, and it's saying, no, wait, enough, um, give me some space, give me some life, give me some quality.

00:33:30.920 And just like, I think women everywhere, given the chance to see where their priorities really lie, will ask that same question.

00:33:39.920 Well, there's a saying, hell has no fury like a woman scorned. 1.00

00:33:44.600 So, do you think that the Earth might lash out with some natural disasters?

00:33:49.280 Well, I think that's what's happening, like the lioness herself.

00:33:52.200 Mm-hmm.

00:33:53.260 Yeah.

00:33:53.780 You know, there's, there's a, I make a, a little bit of a distinction, a little bit, not a lot, a big distinction between the male cycle and the female cycle,

00:34:02.580 going through historical periods of, of construction and development, where, you know, survival and physical and boundaries are, are, are, are overcome.

00:34:14.460 And the, the male energy is very much through effort, discipline, and survival.

00:34:19.900 And something which, of course, we also know, but this is their, their, their, their piece de résistance, sort of, to, to conquer.

00:34:27.820 You know, they, they, they, they, the male cycle calls upon, you know, separation.

00:34:33.100 Let's analyze the parts, of course.

00:34:34.920 The fact that they get lost in the parts and never go back to the whole is, is somehow, you know, it's irrelevant.

00:34:42.220 And, uh, the feminine cycles are more the farming, domestication, the introversion, the cycles of affinity, the new beginnings, collaboration. 0.97

00:34:53.380 You know, we're talking a lot about collaboration now and quality.

00:34:56.100 And, uh, earth's cellular memory is imprinted in the female body. 1.00

00:35:02.100 And the female is the feminine. 0.93

00:35:04.360 The woman, the individual woman, is a, uh, uh, is an example, an illustration of what the earth body is going through.

00:35:14.660 Well, there's also a thing called women's intuition. 1.00

00:35:17.660 So perhaps the global elite will get a run for their money, huh?

00:35:22.280 Yes, the, the intuition.

00:35:24.220 But, you know, for intuition to be really working appropriately, it needs to be cleansed of the emotional manipulation and projection.

00:35:33.280 Right.

00:35:33.860 There's so much that is called intuition.

00:35:36.680 It's all this astral, you know, kind of nebulous things about what's pretty, what glitters, what is, uh, seductive.

00:35:44.520 And, uh, and, uh, and projected by the human intellect and mind in the thought forms.

00:35:52.460 What are your thoughts on the woman of the apocalypse, a figure from the book of Revelation?

00:35:56.600 Well, I think if we're living it, aren't we, um, it's, um, it's, she's, she's a powerful, um, result of the striving, of the longing.

00:36:12.080 There's a very, uh, very, uh, beautiful, although difficult to understand, treatise, which is called Pistis Sophia.

00:36:20.560 And it's the descent of the feminine into hell, into Hades, which is really symbolic of incarnation to the densest matter. 0.98

00:36:30.320 And how she tries to come up, and each time she tries to come up, it's almost like she just crawls up and something pushes her back down again.

00:36:37.660 She crawls up and whanked up. 1.00

00:36:39.480 And, you know, this is going on for eons and eons and eons in time.

00:36:43.640 And eventually, she is, uh, redeemed by the Christ spirit, which is, which is, uh, the male angel or the, the, the aspect of, of consciousness that is beyond polarity.

00:36:55.960 I hear a lot of people saying that we're moving into 4D consciousness.

00:36:59.400 I don't know what your thoughts are on that, but I'm always curious, well, then, what, what would happen to the earth if we moved into 4D consciousness and left 3D behind?

00:37:08.260 Oh, um, yeah, wow.

00:37:10.560 Um, you've talked about dimensions.

00:37:12.640 Yes, I'm, I'm teaching it all the time.

00:37:15.420 Now, the thing is that we're already living all of these dimensions.

00:37:18.420 We're already living the fourth dimension.

00:37:20.480 When we imagine something, we're seeing it, okay?

00:37:23.900 Like when you, you want to go shopping, you want to go for a pair of shoes or a piece of furniture,

00:37:27.680 and you've got in mind exactly what you want, and then you find it.

00:37:31.340 This is fourth dimension.

00:37:33.040 So fourth dimension, holistic, um, um, methods, or, I mean, the computer, internet.

00:37:42.380 This is all fourth dimension, fifth and sixth.

00:37:45.540 And so we're, we're afraid of things that we don't understand,

00:37:48.680 and this is where we need to start, um, our inquiry, our process of inquiry and, and research into what,

00:37:55.760 what is really meant by all this, which is what I've been trying to do over the years,

00:38:00.280 and, and hope to, um, somehow keep doing.

00:38:04.560 I have, uh, one question that's totally different, but what do you think about all the gender, 0.81

00:38:11.780 gender neutral, uh, genderless fashion that's, uh, pretty popular right now?

00:38:18.540 It's more unisex clothing, you know, your boyfriend and your girlfriend can wear it.

00:38:22.460 I think it's kind of a relief to most of us.

00:38:25.180 Um, I remember I, I had this, um, really beautiful body.

00:38:29.140 I, I, I enjoyed my femininity to the uttermost.

00:38:32.880 I was very sexy, very pretty, very this and that and the other.

00:38:36.840 And it was just, there was a whole negative side to this.

00:38:41.240 Wherever we go, a woman, even if she's not so pretty, 1.00

00:38:44.980 she's seen as this sexual object and she's seen, you know, her curves. 0.81

00:38:49.420 And, uh, and, and it's just like, stop it.

00:38:51.980 I just want to be a person.

00:38:53.480 I don't want to be a sex or I don't even want to be a body.

00:38:55.600 I just want to relate to the other as a whole morphic field, if you wish.

00:39:01.860 And so I'm, I'm all for this, uh, these, uh, well, you know,

00:39:07.120 let me put a qualifier on that.

00:39:09.960 Um, I, I, I think I personally, I love fuss and frill and beauty.

00:39:14.520 So I like nice colors and things and I like to look pretty even, even as an older woman.

00:39:21.680 And, um, and so I, I don't know if this, how feminine this is.

00:39:26.880 I, I still think it's a feminine characteristic to want to braid our hair or make it nice or, 1.00

00:39:32.320 you know, fix our eyebrows and, and put a blush and so on and so forth.

00:39:36.500 So I'm, I'm for the difference, but without calling attention to the sexual aspect.

00:39:44.440 Yeah.

00:39:44.580 Sometimes you get tired to being a woman.

00:39:46.260 You feel slimed when you go out and guys are staring at you the whole time.

00:39:49.680 So if a woman is receptive and a man, how can we benefit from this cycle, from a feminine cycle? 0.91

00:39:59.680 Well, the cycle that I'm talking about, the feminine cycle has what I'm calling a vertical window. 1.00

00:40:07.400 It's, it's a term that I'm using a lot to describe my work and this kind of perception.

00:40:12.640 Instead of looking out straight in front of you in a horizontal way, it's a, it's a looking inside and looking up.

00:40:19.920 It's a, um, it's a perception of what is already here, but in a, in a, in a, in a, how to say it, in a whole way, in a feeling sentient way, in a way that you can see, feel, touch, experience.

00:40:34.920 And it's, it's a vertical window.

00:40:38.400 See, I also wanted to get your opinion on, I don't know if you're familiar with the endocrine disruptors and gender bending chemicals.

00:40:46.640 They're actually disrupting people's hormones and making men think like women and women think like men. 0.66

00:40:53.080 Oh, that is, uh, that is a, that is a gross distortion.

00:40:57.720 Um, also, um, you know, I'm all for, I've had, and I have very, very dear, dear, um, um, gay and, and, and lesbian friends at different moments.

00:41:08.880 But, um, the expression of your sexuality, how you want to behave or what, you know, what, what, what turns you on in a way is your own private affair.

00:41:20.220 I keep going back to sexuality is your private affair, not something to be exhibited.

00:41:24.540 And when a person in a gender really wants to change and alter his body or her body to become the other gender, there's something that is going to be very, very disruptive. 0.97

00:41:36.160 Now, it's not going to be perhaps so destructive to the physical aspect, although I believe it will be, but to the consciousness that is in embodiment.

00:41:43.800 Because we are not the body.

00:41:45.800 We're using a body.

00:41:47.100 We express ourselves through a body, but that which is consciousness, that which is the, the, the, you know, the, the, the essence, the quality of, of who I am is, uh, is going to be disturbed by these chemical compounds and hormones and alteration of the, of the, of the body that you chose.

00:42:06.100 Mm-hmm.

00:42:07.100 Now, the body that you have, as a result, now, this conscious choice is something that is arguable from the, from the perspective of the immediate choice.

00:42:16.600 Now, I, I consciously would not choose something, perhaps now, that I would in my, in my altered, say, more holistic state.

00:42:27.520 But, in a sense, everything that happens to me, to everyone, is a result of what you, of the causes of what you're doing right now.

00:42:37.720 So, you have the body that you wished for, in a sense, even though you have the mother, even though you're fighting with her all the time, or the father, or the horrible situations that happened in your life.

00:42:48.720 And, uh, for many, many, many years, I've been working with clearing those fields of, uh, to understand how a life lesson is learned in pain.

00:43:00.000 And, uh, and so, I think part of the guidance that we need to offer people is the understanding of being a consciousness, and to accept the gender that you have.

00:43:10.260 Then you, you can do whatever you like.

00:43:12.200 You can put frills on it, or take them away.

00:43:16.360 It's, uh, you know, just like, like, 12-year-olds and 13-year-olds, I know, in, in Brazil, where I lived before, and even here in Spain.

00:43:25.960 You know, parents allowing the girls to have a boob job. 1.00

00:43:28.960 I mean, you know, really, at, at 12 and 13.

00:43:32.220 That's crazy.

00:43:33.760 It's absurd.

00:43:34.840 It's absurd.

00:43:35.960 Because there's not the right kind of information of education going around.

00:43:41.920 Well, look at TV.

00:43:43.540 Listen to the music.

00:43:44.400 This is what the young girls are paying attention to.

00:43:46.860 So, this is what they think it is to be a woman. 1.00

00:43:49.540 And that has nothing to do with the spiritual side, the intuitive side.

00:43:53.040 None at all.

00:43:54.600 So, let's, uh, let's have our voice heard, Lana.

00:43:59.740 We're going to start to wind down, but I still had a few more questions.

00:44:02.380 Are you up for it?

00:44:03.500 Yeah, sure.

00:44:04.140 Okay.

00:44:04.720 Well, in today's day and age, do you think women are taking on too much? 1.00

00:44:07.460 When some women, they want to be a corporate shark, but then they also want to raise infants 1.00

00:44:11.420 at home.

00:44:12.280 Is that taking on too much?

00:44:14.500 No, I don't think so.

00:44:16.520 We're phenomenal.

00:44:18.800 It's, uh, we have an ability to, to, to be in multiple dimensions and multitask very, very

00:44:25.620 easily.

00:44:26.100 And, uh, I don't see it as being too much.

00:44:29.800 It may be too much in the sense of the way we're approaching it, you know, which is the

00:44:34.120 male oriented doing, doing, doing, doing. 0.61

00:44:36.440 But even these women that are such doers, if you could only just, uh, stop a moment and 0.88

00:44:41.960 see how they actually perceive and operate behind all this doing, it is fantastic.

00:44:48.660 Do you think the children suffer from their mom working, being gone all day?

00:44:53.480 You know, I don't think it's quantity of time.

00:44:55.320 I, I grew up with a working mother who was an executive.

00:44:58.080 Uh, it's, uh, it's, the, the, the structure we have now is not one that supports women, but 0.86

00:45:04.060 women give the quality of their presence to their children. 0.98

00:45:08.200 I think we need a whole reorientation to, it's not what we do, it's what we are.

00:45:13.560 And I think everything can be fit in.

00:45:15.220 I think the whole world is being redefined, Lana, and, uh, and our functions upon it.

00:45:20.360 And I don't think there's any limit to what, what we can actually do, create and manifest,

00:45:26.360 but the quality of the presence, the quality of the feeling, the quality of the consciousness

00:45:31.840 of both men and women.

00:45:34.480 And, uh, you know, my point is that women are going to really help men get there. 1.00

00:45:41.680 I've, I've heard lots of people, they have an idea that the feminist movement was possibly 1.00

00:45:46.560 used or even hijacked in order to get women also in the workplace and paying taxes.

00:45:52.280 What are your thoughts on that?

00:45:54.380 That sounds like a male speaking.

00:45:55.820 Yeah, it's a very masculine perspective.

00:46:01.000 The, the, the whole female movement started as, as a malaise, as a, as a, something that, 1.00

00:46:06.100 that, that, that women, that came from very, very deep inside.

00:46:08.560 Of course, they, they attacked and went towards all the appearances that were holding us back.

00:46:14.700 But parallel with this, there were many discoveries.

00:46:17.300 There was a, a, an archaeology, uh, archaeologist, um, from the middle, mid, mid-European called

00:46:25.800 Maria Gambugin Butas, who did a lot of research on female peace cycles and how peace was more 1.00

00:46:33.560 prevalent during periods of time where there was a, a feminine, a more feminine activity.

00:46:40.220 And, and, and she puts a lot of little statuettes and things that illustrate how this was happening.

00:46:47.120 So, um, the, the, the structure we have today does not support a woman being a woman and also

00:46:53.840 doing whatever she does in corporations. 0.55

00:46:56.300 It's, um, it, it, it has to be re, um, what do you say, understood and reformulated.

00:47:04.640 And I, I think children will benefit.

00:47:08.700 They, children always want truth.

00:47:11.640 When I worked in, in Brazil for, for all these years with so many groups of people and training

00:47:16.960 programs, we also worked with the kids of the, of the, of the people that were going through

00:47:21.180 the training because, um, sometimes the kids were the ones who teach the parents.

00:47:26.680 We need to, um, we need to, um, trust a lot more in consciousness and we don't even trust

00:47:31.960 our kids, what they're seeing, what they're perceiving, uh, they're inferior, you know,

00:47:36.700 they're supposed to be.

00:47:38.220 So a good talk and a good being with, and a good humbling experience as well as assuming

00:47:44.180 the responsibilities that we have to assume.

00:47:46.160 Obviously we have to give protection form.

00:47:48.620 We've got to know how to say no and how to say yes, uh, easily.

00:47:53.860 And these are problems of the adults and not of children.

00:47:57.340 That's right.

00:47:57.900 Definitely.

00:47:58.540 I go to the grocery store these days and I just think, wow, tell your kid.

00:48:01.960 No, it's okay to say no to your kid.

00:48:05.220 They, they'll appreciate it when they're older.

00:48:08.200 Absolutely.

00:48:09.540 Well, I definitely think we've been seeing men with daddy issues in positions of power.

00:48:14.640 So do you think it's time now to emphasize the mommy issues during the female cycle? 0.77

00:48:20.460 Um, what do you mean by mommy issues and daddy issues?

00:48:23.320 Uh, just basically dysfunctional relationships.

00:48:26.740 You mean there's divorces and separations and so on?

00:48:29.680 Yeah, that.

00:48:30.420 Yeah, exactly.

00:48:31.960 Okay.

00:48:32.520 Um, yeah, or, or kids having the same gender parents.

00:48:37.580 Um, again, this is just a question of, of communication of, of consciousness and being, um, the issues that the parents are having, the relationship.

00:48:48.100 I mean, I, I, I, I personally, now this is not, this is not a, it's not even a belief.

00:48:53.220 It's my personal stand. 0.98

00:48:54.320 I think that marriage is ridiculous. 0.57

00:48:55.760 And I think people are coming together because they want to be together and there has to be. 0.99

00:49:01.500 It's not a question of, it's not a question of, it feels good now and if it doesn't, I divorce you.

00:49:05.820 It's a question of the commitment that is taken, that is engaged on from the very beginning.

00:49:10.680 What makes you, you know, what makes you really want to be with another person?

00:49:13.880 What is, uh, you know, what is this commitment that, what are you committing to?

00:49:18.340 Um, which was the whole original, uh, meaning of, of, of marriage or of certain, certainly of the unio mystica.

00:49:26.780 Um, is, is you're coming together at a, at a very central place and you know that you're not going to, you're going to go through periods where you're not going to like the other.

00:49:35.840 You're going to hate the other.

00:49:36.840 That's going to bring up everything in you because this is what marriages do. 1.00

00:49:39.660 This is what all relationship does.

00:49:41.520 It brings up stuff in you that you don't like and you keep projecting and you keep bouncing it back and forth and understanding all this and understanding that relationship is more than just doing things together and being side by side and, uh, people begin to use one another.

00:49:58.720 This is the problem with relationships.

00:50:00.880 You know, I, I will exploit you and you will exploit me, but then I sell myself so that I, you know, this is what I, this is how I can be exploited.

00:50:08.180 You know, it's my, you do this to me and I do this to you and this is a contract, but nobody, you know, they don't wake up to the fact that they're writing a contract and they're sealing it in blood and then afterwards they blame one another.

00:50:22.000 So the dysfunctional marriages and relationships have to do with the, the, a whole change in optic and perspective.

00:50:29.120 It is, is, I think it is evolving as, as, as humanity evolves.

00:50:32.480 Remember, I told you this 400 more years still, and we're working very hard and very fast and it'll go by very quickly and it's very intense.

00:50:41.800 It doesn't mean that it's not happening tomorrow.

00:50:43.800 It's happening today in each of us.

00:50:45.940 Right.

00:50:46.500 I think too, with a lot of people in bad relationships, they just need to be more selective and say no and wait it out until they find the person that's right for them.

00:50:56.360 Because, I mean, I think in a true relationship, like my relationship, it's, it's no work.

00:51:01.160 There's no work and it's just all beauty and it's, it's changed my life.

00:51:05.540 So I think people need to just wait for that and hold out for that and not feel pressure to think, I need to be married by 30 and have kids by 35.

00:51:12.740 You know what I mean?

00:51:13.220 This is all the doing mentality, Lana.

00:51:16.380 And the question also is that, that, that you choose, you know, there's so many people that looking for a partner, they don't care what at certain points, because they don't want to be alone, because they feel needy.

00:51:29.920 They feel needy of social interaction, of expansion, of the challenge of life, of, of experience.

00:51:36.900 And so, you know, put all these things into perspective, it's, if you feel needy, then, you know, you're going to sell yourself at all costs.

00:51:45.460 And being needy is a turn off, let's face it.

00:51:48.780 But, you know, it really goes a long, long way.

00:51:52.060 It may be, it may be very covert.

00:51:54.780 It may be, I mean, we're very skillful at hiding our needs as a humanity.

00:51:59.640 And most relationships are based on that need.

00:52:03.540 And I, without you, I am nothing.

00:52:05.660 I mean, it's a very famous Spanish song.

00:52:07.880 It keeps remakes every, every few years, you know, a new singer will put a different, you know, rhythm to it.

00:52:15.940 But it's like, without you, sin ti, yo no soy nada.

00:52:18.240 Without you, I am nothing, you know.

00:52:20.200 And this, this goes in just about every language.

00:52:23.480 So what is your take on soulmates?

00:52:26.480 Oh, they do exist, but they're not for the convenience of the personality as they're being banted about.

00:52:32.460 Of course they do exist.

00:52:33.400 And so just soul affinities are very, very strong.

00:52:36.980 And we all have a soulmate.

00:52:38.700 But, you know, the thing is, if you look at these soulmates in history, Abelard and Eloise and St. Clair and St. Francis and so on,

00:52:46.760 they're relationships where they're so intense that they bring up everything in you, just like the earth now is processing all this, this darkness and this negativity.

00:52:58.940 When you meet with a soulmate, most of the time, you're not even going to be able to stand them.

00:53:05.440 You know, their proximity for very long, they bring up everything in you that is not perfection.

00:53:10.700 They bring up everything.

00:53:11.740 So they light, the light lights up and it lights up whatever is there.

00:53:15.100 So I say, if you want a soulmate, work on yourself.

00:53:18.520 Clean yourself up.

00:53:20.040 That's right.

00:53:21.220 If you can sustain the light that you are.

00:53:23.920 And then when you meet your match, wow, explosion.

00:53:27.280 Yeah, when you're whole within yourself, then you're actually ready for that level of a relationship.

00:53:33.140 And before that, it just, it won't work out so well.

00:53:36.620 Right, but the trick is that you don't, you can't do it so that you can have a relationship.

00:53:40.680 No, of course not.

00:53:41.520 No, it has to happen on its own time.

00:53:43.960 And that's the beauty about life.

00:53:45.660 Sometimes people get worried and they think, oh, no, this fell apart or this didn't work out.

00:53:49.920 But all of that is clues.

00:53:51.820 It's life giving you clues.

00:53:53.100 Those are areas you need to work out.

00:53:55.940 Yeah.

00:53:57.160 Last question for you.

00:53:58.820 What would a world balanced and operating in the male and female principle look like in action? 0.84

00:54:05.860 It would be a really, a truly humane, this is a word that comes to you, a truly humane world

00:54:12.440 where in a sense we go back into our original conception of what intelligence is about,

00:54:20.220 this whole simultaneous holistic perception of life where there is a feeling, there's emotion,

00:54:28.340 there is the expression love.

00:54:31.960 Love is a term that's used about a lot and it means just about everything from emotion

00:54:37.940 to sexuality to anything.

00:54:40.780 And actually love is cohesion.

00:54:43.060 So the principle of cohesion, of intelligent love, and love is actually intelligence.

00:54:49.240 It is not that feeling is intelligence.

00:54:52.100 It's a state of knowing.

00:54:53.640 And I really see us working together.

00:54:57.520 I see us playing together.

00:54:59.200 I see us raising beautiful children together.

00:55:01.160 I see a different world where let's hope that this nature survives, where this beautiful

00:55:10.300 planet is being cultivated by both of us in a very, in a way that illustrates who we are.

00:55:18.080 The earth illustrates who we are and we are what the earth is giving.

00:55:20.700 So there are cycles of light, there are cycles of dark, but they don't have to do with quality

00:55:24.920 judgment.

00:55:25.900 They have to do with internal and external, with the movement, the sinuous movement, the

00:55:33.600 ups and downs of waves of life, light.

00:55:39.300 Am I being too...

00:55:40.360 No, it's great.

00:55:41.940 Go on.

00:55:42.780 Well, thank you, Zuma.

00:55:48.180 I really appreciate your time and focus on this topic today.

00:55:51.780 Thank you, dear.

00:55:52.300 I just wanted to make this, if I can, which is the point of my book, which is A Call to

00:55:58.800 Women, a very intimate call to women.

00:56:01.380 It speaks to you directly.

00:56:02.680 It doesn't talk about the ideas.

00:56:04.160 It talks about the state of being.

00:56:05.540 It's called The Inner Woman, and it's through Amazon, and this workshop where I'm really

00:56:11.680 calling for women from all over the world who speak either Spanish or English to come

00:56:17.160 together to this retreat here.

00:56:18.640 And it's all in my blog, which I believe you have.

00:56:22.660 Yes.

00:56:23.760 Okay.

00:56:24.500 It's theinnerwomanwordpress.com.

00:56:28.680 There will be conferences and other events, and they're always there.

00:56:32.620 And this is not...

00:56:35.120 I know it sounds like propaganda.

00:56:36.840 No, no, no, no.

00:56:38.220 No, but my interest is not in selling or in even making money.

00:56:41.800 It's a question of contacting women, of growing, of being able to speak to greater groups of

00:56:48.080 people, of being able to awaken this consciousness within all of us and working together.

00:56:54.700 I thank you so much for this opportunity.

00:56:57.020 I think your program is fantastic.

00:56:59.640 I love all the topics that it has to do, deals with.

00:57:03.180 And I like your way of giving me so much space to talk.

00:57:07.540 Thank you.

00:57:07.960 Thank you.

00:57:08.680 And I will provide all the links for your website and also the conference, which you'll be speaking

00:57:13.260 at, below this interview so people can click into it, no problem, and buy tickets or go

00:57:18.740 to your website and get some books or book some sessions with you.

00:57:22.380 So thanks to all of you in the cyber world for listening.

00:57:24.780 I can say when you find that person you can have a true alchemical marriage with, there's 0.81

00:57:28.600 nothing else more powerful or healing.

00:57:30.420 So if there was a collective alchemical wedding, it could transform the world.

00:57:34.520 Speak soon.

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Radio 3Fourteen - August 22, 2012

The Female Principle

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