Radio 3Fourteen - The Individual vs. The Planned State

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.

00:01:00.000 So listen up because we're revisiting the subject of collectivism.

00:01:04.400 Collectivism means the subjugation of the individual to a group, whether to a race, class, or state, it does not matter.

00:01:11.480 Collectivism holds that a man must be chained to collective action and collective thought for the sake of what is called the common good.

00:01:19.140 It's a one-size-fits-all solution, which of course does not exist.

00:01:23.660 Remember, Soviet Russia was a country professedly dedicated to the common good,

00:01:28.840 where with the exception of a minuscule clique of rulers, the entire population existed in subhuman misery for over two generations.

00:01:36.240 The common good has served as the moral justification of most social systems and of all tyrannies in history.

00:01:44.240 The common good, or the public interest, is an undefined and undefinable concept.

00:01:49.700 There is no such entity as society or the public or us.

00:01:54.820 The group is only a number of individual men.

00:01:57.780 Nothing can be good for the tribe, as good pertains only to a living organism, to an individual living organism,

00:02:05.680 not to a disembodied aggregate of relationships.

00:02:09.420 John, welcome back.

00:02:10.480 I'm so glad to have a sane voice of reason back on my program.

00:02:13.060 It seems the majority of people I speak to are blinded by the false promises of collectivism and false unity.

00:02:18.600 It's the new religion, the new paradigm everyone's been asking for.

00:02:23.920 Yeah, that's a good intro.

00:02:25.900 Everyone is asking for it.

00:02:29.200 It comes out of despair, I think, on the part of a lot of people,

00:02:33.560 because they're grasping at straws, thinking that somehow if we just think about everybody all together like one giant mass of oatmeal,

00:02:45.500 that this is going to somehow solve the problems of the world and everything is going to work out just fine.

00:02:50.680 And, you know, it is the major delusion of our times, I would say.

00:02:57.880 I agree.

00:02:59.060 Well, the last time you were on this program, we discussed various guises of collectivism and how it seeks to swallow people up.

00:03:04.940 So let's jump into this collectivist conspiracy, because I know you have some new angles to share,

00:03:08.980 including information passed to you by a retired propaganda master.

00:03:13.260 Yes.

00:03:13.660 Well, let's start with a little bit of history.

00:03:18.380 Before the end of World War II, actually, on the eve of World War II,

00:03:24.880 the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, which I'm sure many of your listeners know is a Rockefeller organization,

00:03:33.080 decided that they had to plan for post-war society.

00:03:38.840 And so they put together a committee, and the central question was,

00:03:44.420 could the United States survive as an isolated country,

00:03:49.460 or would it need resources that demanded that it go outside its own borders?

00:03:56.340 And so naturally, the answer was, yes, we have to find resources that exist outside the country.

00:04:03.120 And this was kind of a charade, really, because the answer was a foregone conclusion.

00:04:11.280 And what it really came down to was, America would have to become an imperial empire,

00:04:18.060 and control the entire world to make sure that it had continuing access to all these resources that it needed.

00:04:25.260 And because the Council on Foreign Relations had tremendous connections into the State Department,

00:04:32.020 and therefore into the President, Roosevelt at the time,

00:04:36.520 and because behind the scenes, the CFR actually was in a higher controlling position than the government itself,

00:04:45.700 that formula came to pass.

00:04:48.420 But in order for it to succeed, there needed to be a tremendous propaganda front

00:04:55.680 that would shape the picture of imperial empire in a completely different way.

00:05:02.940 It wasn't going to be, yes, we're going to conquer the world, and everybody's on board, and let's go.

00:05:08.800 It was the greatest good for the greatest number of people.

00:05:13.400 We're all in this together.

00:05:15.260 It's for a better world.

00:05:16.660 We have to do what's necessary to make humanity rise up.

00:05:23.640 And all of these clichés that were sprayed out from the time of the end of the Second World War.

00:05:31.740 And as this retired propaganda master, Ellis Medivoy, told me on several occasions,

00:05:41.440 this was a real overarching plan.

00:05:44.900 And it was very detailed in how it was to be executed,

00:05:50.420 that everybody from educational to religious institutions to government to even corporations,

00:05:59.320 anybody who had any sort of public voice was now going to be bombarded with information

00:06:08.840 that would lead them to believe that we were on the dawn of a better world

00:06:14.140 if we would just all think of ourselves as, quote, part of humanity.

00:06:19.400 And this was a picture that was now painted to cover over the fact

00:06:23.460 that what was really going on was imperial conquest all over the world,

00:06:28.700 which has continued to this day, of course.

00:06:30.720 And so there you see some of the roots of modern collectivism

00:06:37.800 as complete hype and charade and delusion that's intentionally spread

00:06:43.820 so that people are, their minds are tapped into by these propagandists

00:06:52.000 in a place where, you know, everybody would like to see things get better

00:06:56.900 in general terms, whatever that means.

00:06:59.520 Everybody would like to see the world getting along with itself, sure.

00:07:06.160 And into that part of the mind comes all of this propaganda

00:07:10.080 that leads to something, for example, like the overwhelming election of Obama in 2008,

00:07:15.660 where there was really, it came to a climax in a way in this orgasm of hysteria

00:07:25.820 about the need to have this president because he was a transcendent figure.

00:07:32.440 And why was he transcendent?

00:07:33.780 Because he could see the big picture of all of humanity

00:07:37.840 and politics would never be the same again.

00:07:40.180 And so this was promoted as electioneering, and it worked.

00:07:46.380 And we can see the disastrous results in the aftermath.

00:07:51.340 Sure can.

00:07:52.660 Now, if we go back to education,

00:07:55.760 John Doe is a prominent figure behind Tate's compulsory public education in America

00:07:59.160 and a socialist, and he vehemently opposed the idea of an individual

00:08:03.260 and a free society where the individual is respected.

00:08:06.140 And in fact, he said that it's the government that must decide

00:08:08.980 how each individual is best to serve it.

00:08:10.980 Can you believe that?

00:08:13.340 Unfortunately, I can.

00:08:15.320 I studied John Doe in college when I was taking philosophy courses,

00:08:20.800 and the cover story on an academic level at the time

00:08:25.700 was that he was the voice, one of the voices,

00:08:28.520 of a new American philosophy called pragmatism,

00:08:31.840 or what some people called instrumentalism,

00:08:35.240 which meant that everything had to be viewed in terms of its effect,

00:08:41.500 that no statements were really true or false.

00:08:45.440 They only would lead to something effective or ineffective.

00:08:50.940 And so it followed from that that in his educational theories,

00:08:55.340 he would promote the idea that the individual is just a unit

00:08:59.180 in a larger equation,

00:09:00.640 and that government would be shaping the future.

00:09:04.520 And therefore, the whole educational system,

00:09:08.100 well, by implication, would have to be geared to wiping out

00:09:11.700 the sense of the individual who survives

00:09:16.120 and blooms on his own terms and on his own achievements.

00:09:20.740 So achievement really took a tremendous torpedo

00:09:26.620 in the wake of Dewey and other such educational theorists

00:09:31.580 because if you left in education the idea

00:09:38.420 of individual achievement being important,

00:09:41.500 then you would give credence to the whole idea

00:09:44.440 of the independent individual,

00:09:46.360 which was anathema to these people.

00:09:49.480 Well, they couldn't stand for that.

00:09:51.760 So they had to reduce everything to what is good for the group,

00:09:56.560 what should be the curriculum of the group,

00:09:59.140 what should be dropped out of the curriculum,

00:10:01.720 and of course, what was dropped out

00:10:03.460 was the original founding documents of the country,

00:10:07.900 why the Declaration of Independence

00:10:09.880 and the Constitution were written as they were,

00:10:13.100 why the idea of severely limited government

00:10:15.860 was put into effect,

00:10:18.460 and the only possible answer that you would see

00:10:22.600 out of those founding documents

00:10:24.240 was that the individual took precedence,

00:10:27.340 that the government was supposed to exist

00:10:29.500 on behalf of freeing up the individual

00:10:33.600 to achieve what he wanted to achieve in life.

00:10:37.760 And so this was completely scratched

00:10:39.860 out of educational curriculum,

00:10:42.500 completely gone.

00:10:43.560 And I got in as a young person being educated

00:10:49.640 just, I would say,

00:10:51.700 before the full force of that program hit.

00:10:55.740 And so when I went back into schools as a teacher,

00:10:59.620 oh, maybe five, six, seven years

00:11:01.800 after I was out of college,

00:11:05.360 the change was just staggering.

00:11:07.620 I mean, it wasn't any longer about

00:11:11.460 who's smart, who's achieving,

00:11:14.660 who's doing the work,

00:11:16.660 who's an independent thinker,

00:11:18.840 who has talent.

00:11:21.240 All of that was just completely destroyed.

00:11:24.720 Yeah, now we're probably being told,

00:11:26.340 and I bet a lot of the kids are being taught too,

00:11:28.060 it's selfish and greedy

00:11:29.220 to promote freedom for the individual.

00:11:31.140 You can't just be thinking about yourself anymore.

00:11:34.120 This is a thing of the past.

00:11:36.400 The concept of being an individual is,

00:11:38.700 it's a myth.

00:11:39.620 We're in this together, like you say,

00:11:41.240 so get with it.

00:11:43.980 Right?

00:11:44.380 Yeah, that is what's happening.

00:11:48.700 And I don't know,

00:11:49.600 on the last interview we did,

00:11:53.040 I quoted a sociologist

00:11:56.440 from a California university

00:11:59.120 who basically wrote just what you said,

00:12:02.100 that the concept of the individual

00:12:04.420 is now defunct.

00:12:06.080 It no longer has any,

00:12:07.820 you know, credence.

00:12:10.240 And it was just a sort of artificial construct,

00:12:13.980 and now everything has to be about

00:12:16.580 what is good for the group.

00:12:18.800 And these social science people

00:12:20.720 have contributed an enormous amount

00:12:24.400 to destroying the whole idea

00:12:26.760 of the individual.

00:12:27.540 And a word about them,

00:12:32.500 coming out of the Second World War,

00:12:34.580 many of these people

00:12:35.560 who became professors

00:12:37.620 of the social sciences,

00:12:39.000 like sociology and anthropology

00:12:40.780 and so forth,

00:12:42.400 were people who were

00:12:44.760 working in psychological operations,

00:12:48.140 warfare operations.

00:12:49.860 And they needed jobs,

00:12:51.840 they needed positions of authority,

00:12:54.180 and so they were put

00:12:56.220 into a new discipline

00:12:57.300 called mass communications,

00:12:59.420 which really was a pseudo-discipline.

00:13:02.220 It had no real underpinning at all,

00:13:04.520 but it was just a way

00:13:05.580 to allow them

00:13:06.720 to keep influencing society,

00:13:09.180 which they did.

00:13:10.780 And they did it

00:13:11.960 by studying groups,

00:13:13.460 cultures,

00:13:15.160 nations,

00:13:16.060 tribes,

00:13:16.780 clans,

00:13:17.420 but never the individual.

00:13:19.720 Never did any of these people

00:13:21.680 ever write.

00:13:24.400 Well,

00:13:24.800 I was in with this tribe

00:13:26.460 in South America,

00:13:27.440 and one of the interesting things

00:13:28.500 I noticed

00:13:28.960 was that there were individuals

00:13:30.120 in this group

00:13:30.960 who were different

00:13:31.980 from the rest of the group,

00:13:33.760 which, of course,

00:13:34.900 is always the case

00:13:35.680 in any group,

00:13:36.460 but you would never know that

00:13:38.300 from reading their work.

00:13:40.480 And in fact,

00:13:41.000 I remember a guy,

00:13:43.000 this was probably

00:13:43.740 in the 1980s,

00:13:45.500 who had lived

00:13:46.660 for maybe a dozen years

00:13:49.380 with a tribe

00:13:50.360 in South America.

00:13:52.660 And he kept telling people

00:13:54.040 after he came back

00:13:55.120 and they asked him

00:13:55.760 what it was like,

00:13:56.460 he said,

00:13:57.020 it was like being

00:13:58.280 with any group of people.

00:14:00.360 There are the good guys,

00:14:01.580 the bad guys,

00:14:02.680 the people who go along

00:14:03.960 with everything,

00:14:04.620 the independent-minded people.

00:14:06.480 He said,

00:14:07.020 forget the gloss

00:14:07.960 of, you know,

00:14:08.820 what is the group.

00:14:10.440 It's not the way it is.

00:14:11.840 Once you're inside

00:14:12.840 long enough

00:14:13.540 and you're accepted,

00:14:14.320 it becomes like

00:14:16.000 any other

00:14:16.620 just random bunch of people.

00:14:18.960 There are all kinds

00:14:19.740 of individuals.

00:14:20.480 But of course,

00:14:22.260 this was completely

00:14:23.460 erased

00:14:24.840 by the social science people

00:14:26.840 because

00:14:27.220 they wanted to promote

00:14:29.460 through education mainly

00:14:31.140 that the coming wave

00:14:33.580 is in fact

00:14:34.720 the group,

00:14:35.340 the group,

00:14:35.820 the collective.

00:14:36.400 It's all about that.

00:14:37.800 That's what you study.

00:14:38.860 That's what you learn about.

00:14:40.520 And

00:14:41.080 you're not concerned

00:14:42.560 with the individual at all

00:14:43.680 because that doesn't

00:14:44.620 even exist.

00:14:45.300 the state

00:14:49.780 also hates

00:14:50.480 the individual.

00:14:51.340 So tell us about

00:14:52.040 the individual

00:14:52.720 versus the planned state,

00:14:54.820 which is another aspect.

00:14:56.920 Yes.

00:14:59.020 Again,

00:14:59.760 going back

00:15:00.700 to World War II,

00:15:03.800 these are

00:15:04.380 social scientists

00:15:05.540 who are not really

00:15:07.500 scientists at all,

00:15:09.000 but really

00:15:09.900 propagandists.

00:15:11.300 they assumed

00:15:14.120 as a basic

00:15:15.780 foundation

00:15:16.420 for their work

00:15:17.300 that

00:15:19.360 all nations,

00:15:21.560 all societies

00:15:22.660 had to be

00:15:24.400 planned societies.

00:15:25.520 they just

00:15:27.200 took that

00:15:27.920 for granted

00:15:28.540 and it was

00:15:29.840 implicit

00:15:30.300 in everything

00:15:30.920 they wrote

00:15:31.580 because

00:15:32.680 if it wasn't,

00:15:33.940 then what good

00:15:34.640 was their academic

00:15:35.580 discipline?

00:15:36.240 It was just

00:15:36.700 something to

00:15:37.580 sort of

00:15:39.500 entertain yourself

00:15:40.620 with,

00:15:41.220 but

00:15:41.400 they were much

00:15:42.500 more

00:15:43.120 serious

00:15:44.280 about it.

00:15:46.500 They were

00:15:47.100 basically

00:15:48.620 intellectual

00:15:51.140 legislators

00:15:51.960 if you will,

00:15:54.380 who were saying

00:15:55.220 look,

00:15:56.460 we now have

00:15:57.100 the capacity

00:15:57.900 technologically

00:15:59.380 and in every

00:16:00.040 other way

00:16:00.580 to study groups

00:16:02.040 and study

00:16:02.560 societies,

00:16:03.540 but why?

00:16:04.980 What's the purpose?

00:16:05.880 Well,

00:16:06.100 obviously the purpose

00:16:07.100 is so that we can

00:16:07.940 plan these societies,

00:16:09.660 how they will work,

00:16:11.140 how they'll operate,

00:16:12.180 who's in charge,

00:16:14.100 what will be

00:16:14.800 distributed to whom,

00:16:16.480 on what terms,

00:16:18.420 what the laws

00:16:19.240 will be,

00:16:19.780 the regulations,

00:16:20.620 and so forth

00:16:21.260 because

00:16:21.820 that's the future.

00:16:23.540 That's where

00:16:23.960 we're going.

00:16:24.500 And so that's

00:16:25.840 why we need

00:16:26.420 to learn

00:16:26.840 about various

00:16:27.500 societies

00:16:27.980 so we can

00:16:28.480 apply all

00:16:29.200 this to

00:16:30.260 planning the

00:16:31.980 societies of

00:16:32.840 every nation

00:16:33.500 on the face

00:16:34.060 of the earth,

00:16:35.000 which again

00:16:36.140 destroys the

00:16:37.020 whole concept

00:16:37.660 of the individual

00:16:38.480 and individual

00:16:39.360 freedom

00:16:39.980 and the

00:16:41.940 inherent right

00:16:43.220 to decide

00:16:45.000 on one's own

00:16:45.760 future.

00:16:46.320 all of this

00:16:48.720 goes by the

00:16:49.440 boards

00:16:49.860 because

00:16:50.480 and this

00:16:51.780 has been

00:16:52.100 kind of

00:16:52.500 a tacit

00:16:53.060 assumption

00:16:53.560 throughout

00:16:54.160 governments

00:16:54.900 as well

00:16:55.980 that most

00:16:57.240 commentators

00:16:58.160 ignore.

00:16:59.660 They just

00:17:00.300 don't want

00:17:01.660 to expose

00:17:02.220 that

00:17:02.760 because

00:17:03.400 it's too

00:17:04.220 hot

00:17:06.780 a wire

00:17:07.480 to touch.

00:17:08.240 they realize

00:17:09.900 that if

00:17:10.280 the population

00:17:11.020 at large

00:17:11.900 understood

00:17:12.660 that hey,

00:17:14.800 you know,

00:17:16.000 we're dealing

00:17:16.820 in planned

00:17:17.440 societies.

00:17:18.320 This is what

00:17:18.840 all this

00:17:19.340 propaganda

00:17:20.120 and social

00:17:20.800 science

00:17:21.460 and education

00:17:22.340 and government

00:17:23.480 is about

00:17:24.240 is to

00:17:25.880 how to

00:17:26.240 plan

00:17:26.760 society

00:17:27.540 so that

00:17:28.120 everything

00:17:28.760 is organized

00:17:29.640 and everybody

00:17:30.620 fits into

00:17:31.280 a slot.

00:17:32.580 If that

00:17:32.860 becomes

00:17:33.400 really

00:17:33.740 public

00:17:34.180 knowledge

00:17:34.800 then people

00:17:35.680 are going

00:17:35.960 to rebel

00:17:36.420 so we

00:17:36.860 have to

00:17:37.180 conceal

00:17:37.640 that

00:17:37.940 assumption

00:17:38.360 behind

00:17:38.920 all of

00:17:39.820 this

00:17:40.060 stuff

00:17:40.600 that we

00:17:40.900 put out

00:17:41.380 there.

00:17:42.560 But that's

00:17:43.040 the world

00:17:43.500 that we're

00:17:43.840 living in

00:17:44.360 now.

00:17:44.800 The people

00:17:45.160 that run

00:17:45.600 things

00:17:46.040 don't even

00:17:46.600 bother

00:17:46.980 to think

00:17:47.460 about this

00:17:48.000 anymore.

00:17:49.460 They're just

00:17:50.000 working off

00:17:51.160 of the

00:17:51.440 assumption

00:17:51.900 that it's

00:17:53.660 all about

00:17:54.400 which kind

00:17:55.320 of a planned

00:17:55.900 society

00:17:56.500 is better,

00:17:57.800 more efficient

00:17:58.420 than another

00:17:59.040 kind.

00:17:59.980 And that's

00:18:00.480 all they're

00:18:00.980 concerned about.

00:18:02.120 Have you

00:18:02.720 heard about

00:18:03.060 the planned

00:18:03.620 quote-unquote

00:18:04.240 utopian

00:18:04.920 socialist

00:18:05.780 eco-future

00:18:06.980 city

00:18:07.360 called

00:18:07.920 Owenstown

00:18:08.660 in Scotland

00:18:09.180 that the

00:18:09.720 Mondragon

00:18:09.960 Corporation

00:18:10.500 is trying

00:18:10.880 to build?

00:18:12.120 No,

00:18:12.600 I haven't.

00:18:13.120 I've just

00:18:13.480 gotten a little

00:18:14.000 tidbit,

00:18:14.600 so tell me

00:18:15.080 about this.

00:18:15.600 It's very

00:18:16.160 creepy.

00:18:16.680 It's basically

00:18:17.180 based on the

00:18:17.920 worker-owned

00:18:18.900 co-op in

00:18:19.680 Mondragon,

00:18:20.300 Spain.

00:18:20.680 There's some

00:18:20.940 great videos

00:18:21.460 you can watch

00:18:21.900 about it,

00:18:22.240 but it's

00:18:22.460 very creepy.

00:18:23.780 Everything is

00:18:24.260 fair and

00:18:24.760 everything is

00:18:25.200 owned together.

00:18:26.380 No one has

00:18:26.780 more than

00:18:27.160 you,

00:18:27.680 and it feels

00:18:28.180 completely

00:18:28.600 contrived.

00:18:29.600 It's not

00:18:29.840 organic.

00:18:30.260 Like you

00:18:30.720 said,

00:18:31.080 it's a

00:18:31.960 set-up

00:18:33.100 planned

00:18:33.720 community,

00:18:34.840 and everyone's

00:18:35.460 got their

00:18:35.780 little peg

00:18:36.340 that they

00:18:36.680 fit into.

00:18:37.700 Everyone's

00:18:38.140 got their

00:18:38.420 little place,

00:18:39.060 and it looks

00:18:39.380 like the

00:18:39.720 neighbor's

00:18:40.100 place.

00:18:41.080 It's like

00:18:41.440 you can't

00:18:42.000 even scratch

00:18:42.400 your butt

00:18:42.680 without going

00:18:43.120 through the

00:18:43.400 community

00:18:43.680 first.

00:18:44.900 Oh,

00:18:45.180 wow.

00:18:46.160 And how

00:18:47.080 do they

00:18:47.360 plan to

00:18:47.940 fill this

00:18:48.500 city?

00:18:49.220 You know?

00:18:50.420 They're trying

00:18:51.060 to say that

00:18:51.440 they're trying

00:18:51.760 to get people

00:18:52.500 to come live

00:18:53.160 there and be

00:18:53.700 a part working

00:18:54.520 in their

00:18:55.040 business that

00:18:55.700 they have

00:18:56.080 there,

00:18:56.460 some kind

00:18:57.260 of industry,

00:18:58.040 some sort

00:18:58.340 of factory.

00:18:59.840 So they're

00:19:00.440 trying to lure

00:19:01.020 people in.

00:19:02.120 Yeah,

00:19:02.280 you'll have to

00:19:02.620 check out some

00:19:03.040 videos about it.

00:19:03.780 Henrik showed

00:19:04.240 me some stuff,

00:19:04.900 and I was very

00:19:05.580 creeped out by it.

00:19:07.240 And is this

00:19:08.020 sort of like a

00:19:09.440 corporate government

00:19:10.320 partnership?

00:19:11.840 Yeah.

00:19:13.880 Wow.

00:19:14.940 Yeah,

00:19:15.260 I'm expecting

00:19:16.080 to see a lot

00:19:16.800 more of this.

00:19:18.080 A lot more

00:19:18.680 of this.

00:19:19.340 Yeah,

00:19:19.540 and it was

00:19:19.760 dubbed model

00:19:20.760 village for the

00:19:21.500 21st century.

00:19:22.720 Exactly.

00:19:23.660 And look how

00:19:24.300 well it's working,

00:19:25.340 and then it

00:19:25.700 becomes publicized,

00:19:26.940 and let's

00:19:27.360 start some

00:19:27.900 more of

00:19:28.380 these.

00:19:29.740 And,

00:19:30.040 you know,

00:19:30.280 the social

00:19:30.720 scientists will

00:19:31.620 be like

00:19:32.020 vultures,

00:19:32.760 you know,

00:19:33.060 feeding off

00:19:33.760 of this to

00:19:34.820 publish studies

00:19:35.580 and reports,

00:19:36.660 and there'll

00:19:37.380 be glowing

00:19:37.880 articles in

00:19:38.640 the New York

00:19:39.100 Times,

00:19:40.000 and,

00:19:40.400 you know,

00:19:41.700 you're going

00:19:41.960 to find this

00:19:42.640 whole idea

00:19:43.300 spreading for

00:19:44.220 sure,

00:19:44.940 because these

00:19:46.540 are like,

00:19:47.180 you know,

00:19:48.500 beacons of

00:19:49.620 collectivism that

00:19:51.540 will be hailed

00:19:53.360 as the new

00:19:54.380 way of living.

00:19:56.480 And then if

00:19:57.740 you want more,

00:19:58.740 or if you want

00:19:59.060 to go outside

00:19:59.660 of that,

00:20:00.020 maybe you want

00:20:00.420 to paint your

00:20:00.920 place a little

00:20:01.440 different color,

00:20:02.440 you get looked

00:20:03.300 at and judged,

00:20:04.780 that's not

00:20:05.340 freedom to me.

00:20:07.240 Right,

00:20:07.740 exactly.

00:20:08.500 Peer pressure

00:20:09.220 of everybody

00:20:09.980 saying,

00:20:10.740 this is not

00:20:11.760 the right thing,

00:20:12.400 you can't do

00:20:13.060 this.

00:20:13.740 What are you

00:20:14.200 complaining about,

00:20:14.860 Lana?

00:20:15.020 You have what

00:20:15.500 you need.

00:20:15.860 You have food,

00:20:16.520 you have shelter,

00:20:17.200 just shut up,

00:20:18.100 you know,

00:20:19.080 do your job.

00:20:20.560 Exactly,

00:20:21.420 exactly.

00:20:22.060 That's the whole

00:20:23.080 message.

00:20:23.820 They also seem

00:20:24.440 to hide behind

00:20:25.160 the,

00:20:26.020 we're a

00:20:26.420 sustainable

00:20:26.920 community.

00:20:28.120 You notice

00:20:28.480 that?

00:20:29.740 Yeah,

00:20:30.200 the sustainability

00:20:30.880 is always the,

00:20:32.500 you know,

00:20:33.500 the rationalization

00:20:34.440 behind this.

00:20:35.760 You see,

00:20:36.220 we're not harming

00:20:37.080 the environment.

00:20:38.540 Everybody else

00:20:39.240 is,

00:20:39.620 but we're not

00:20:40.280 because,

00:20:41.460 you know,

00:20:42.020 we recycle

00:20:42.760 everything from

00:20:43.920 paper to

00:20:44.700 people's kidneys

00:20:45.600 to whatever

00:20:46.540 there is here,

00:20:47.640 we can recycle

00:20:48.420 it and use it

00:20:49.040 again and

00:20:50.700 so therefore

00:20:51.760 this is good

00:20:53.140 for the planet.

00:20:54.560 It feeds

00:20:54.940 into the radical

00:20:55.720 environmental movement

00:20:57.020 which is really

00:20:57.980 at the top

00:20:58.660 all about

00:20:59.440 depopulation

00:21:01.260 and control

00:21:02.980 of society

00:21:03.820 and also

00:21:05.020 the destruction

00:21:05.780 of industrial

00:21:06.660 society

00:21:07.360 by laying

00:21:08.800 on,

00:21:09.320 you know,

00:21:10.360 just intolerable

00:21:11.520 taxes for

00:21:12.620 producing anything

00:21:13.660 and intolerable

00:21:15.060 red tape

00:21:15.780 for producing

00:21:17.100 anything so

00:21:17.940 that eventually

00:21:18.700 the hope

00:21:20.600 of these

00:21:20.980 people

00:21:21.420 and their

00:21:21.820 objective

00:21:22.280 is that

00:21:23.180 more and

00:21:23.720 more

00:21:24.060 businesses

00:21:24.920 become

00:21:25.720 government

00:21:27.780 controlled,

00:21:28.600 de facto

00:21:29.040 government

00:21:29.560 controlled

00:21:30.060 businesses.

00:21:30.860 You know,

00:21:31.020 the government

00:21:31.440 is really

00:21:31.920 your partner

00:21:32.580 because you're

00:21:33.660 paying exorbitant

00:21:34.860 taxes,

00:21:36.040 you're involved

00:21:36.640 in red tape

00:21:37.520 up to the hilt,

00:21:38.820 there are many

00:21:39.340 things that you're

00:21:40.000 not allowed to do

00:21:41.020 and so really,

00:21:42.700 you know,

00:21:43.120 it's like you're

00:21:43.700 a little government

00:21:44.340 agency

00:21:44.920 and if you

00:21:46.820 make too

00:21:47.220 much money

00:21:47.880 then you

00:21:48.820 can be taxed

00:21:49.640 more,

00:21:49.940 you will be

00:21:50.420 taxed more

00:21:51.020 to bring you

00:21:51.480 down to the

00:21:51.920 level of

00:21:52.300 everybody else

00:21:53.080 under the

00:21:54.020 fiction that

00:21:55.100 your taxes

00:21:55.780 are going to

00:21:56.460 make a better

00:21:56.880 world and to

00:21:57.780 bring the

00:21:58.920 people who are

00:21:59.800 suffering up to

00:22:00.880 the level of

00:22:01.460 everybody else.

00:22:02.680 But this is a

00:22:03.260 gigantic myth.

00:22:04.880 I mean,

00:22:05.100 if you look at

00:22:05.720 the,

00:22:06.260 God knows how

00:22:06.760 many billions

00:22:07.520 and billions

00:22:08.160 and maybe

00:22:08.780 trillions of

00:22:09.520 dollars have

00:22:10.220 supposedly gone

00:22:11.420 from federal

00:22:12.940 and state

00:22:13.400 governments in

00:22:14.180 the United

00:22:15.060 States into

00:22:16.160 inner cities

00:22:17.500 which are

00:22:18.180 wracked with

00:22:18.720 poverty and

00:22:19.420 drugs and

00:22:19.920 crime over

00:22:21.180 the last,

00:22:21.980 let's say,

00:22:23.040 say 45 to

00:22:25.100 50 years

00:22:26.020 and then

00:22:27.520 look at the

00:22:28.060 results,

00:22:29.220 it's an

00:22:30.560 absolute

00:22:30.980 catastrophe.

00:22:32.460 Things have

00:22:32.900 only gotten

00:22:33.440 worse,

00:22:34.240 much,

00:22:34.660 much worse.

00:22:36.300 And so if

00:22:36.860 that's where

00:22:37.520 the money is

00:22:38.400 going that

00:22:39.840 comes from

00:22:40.880 entrepreneurs

00:22:42.480 being taxed

00:22:43.460 much more

00:22:43.940 heavily,

00:22:45.140 it's a

00:22:45.400 complete and

00:22:46.180 total failure

00:22:47.100 in the

00:22:48.460 negative realm

00:22:50.540 under zero.

00:22:52.340 And you can

00:22:52.700 watch these

00:22:53.300 programs all

00:22:54.040 over the

00:22:54.380 world.

00:22:54.940 I mean,

00:22:55.320 there is no

00:22:56.600 real intention

00:22:57.580 to raise the

00:22:58.500 level of

00:22:59.880 standard of

00:23:01.120 living.

00:23:02.580 So that's

00:23:03.100 also a

00:23:03.760 hoax.

00:23:04.880 So the

00:23:06.040 collectivist

00:23:06.780 motto,

00:23:07.600 you know,

00:23:07.820 we're all in

00:23:08.320 this together,

00:23:09.220 that's already

00:23:10.280 a hoax.

00:23:10.880 as far as

00:23:11.380 the individual

00:23:11.820 goes,

00:23:12.320 because it's

00:23:12.820 attempting to

00:23:13.400 eradicate the

00:23:14.060 individual.

00:23:14.600 And then when

00:23:14.980 you look at

00:23:15.360 the actual

00:23:15.840 results of

00:23:16.540 these programs,

00:23:18.080 say in the

00:23:18.600 third world,

00:23:19.680 you're astonished

00:23:20.440 to find that

00:23:21.180 after all

00:23:21.700 these years

00:23:22.260 and all

00:23:22.620 these studies

00:23:23.180 have been

00:23:23.560 written that

00:23:24.100 show that

00:23:25.540 chronic disease

00:23:26.600 in the third

00:23:27.120 world is

00:23:27.580 basically caused

00:23:28.440 by contaminated

00:23:29.200 water supplies

00:23:30.520 and lack of

00:23:32.160 basic sanitation,

00:23:33.520 overcrowding,

00:23:35.360 as well as

00:23:36.360 the dangerous

00:23:37.380 effects of

00:23:38.140 vaccines and

00:23:39.120 toxic

00:23:39.640 pharmaceuticals

00:23:40.740 to add

00:23:41.480 into the

00:23:41.880 mix,

00:23:42.280 lack of

00:23:42.740 basic

00:23:43.100 nutrition,

00:23:45.240 and land

00:23:46.060 stolen by

00:23:46.960 corporations

00:23:47.660 from the

00:23:48.240 people who

00:23:48.720 live there

00:23:49.320 with the

00:23:50.620 aid of their

00:23:51.140 local governments,

00:23:52.560 all of this

00:23:53.680 is very well

00:23:54.340 known.

00:23:54.900 And the

00:23:55.060 means to

00:23:55.640 fix it are

00:23:56.860 not that

00:23:57.280 expensive and

00:23:57.980 certainly not

00:23:58.520 that difficult.

00:24:00.020 But yet it

00:24:00.580 hasn't happened.

00:24:01.880 It's never

00:24:02.360 happened.

00:24:02.820 you don't

00:24:04.000 see corporations

00:24:05.100 going in

00:24:05.800 there into

00:24:06.980 some part

00:24:08.700 of an

00:24:09.560 African country

00:24:10.440 and saying

00:24:11.000 look, for

00:24:12.320 $12 million

00:24:13.560 we can

00:24:15.520 decontaminate

00:24:16.680 65 to 70

00:24:18.540 percent of

00:24:19.060 your water

00:24:19.460 supply.

00:24:20.940 It's easy.

00:24:22.040 We have the

00:24:22.480 technology.

00:24:24.020 That's all

00:24:24.460 it'll take.

00:24:25.980 And somehow

00:24:26.440 it never

00:24:27.120 happens.

00:24:27.560 So the

00:24:31.280 result of

00:24:32.020 all of this

00:24:32.640 is horrific

00:24:33.400 along with

00:24:34.140 the fakery

00:24:36.440 of the

00:24:37.100 ideals to

00:24:38.180 begin with.

00:24:39.500 But yet

00:24:39.720 people think,

00:24:40.700 oh this is a

00:24:41.260 product of

00:24:41.760 capitalism or

00:24:42.820 the free

00:24:43.220 market.

00:24:43.900 But they

00:24:44.400 don't understand

00:24:44.920 that when a

00:24:45.320 government is

00:24:45.840 in bed with

00:24:46.420 companies and

00:24:47.040 telling them

00:24:47.440 what to do,

00:24:47.940 this is not

00:24:48.420 free market.

00:24:49.300 This is not

00:24:49.920 capitalism.

00:24:52.380 Yeah, that

00:24:53.260 is another

00:24:53.860 thing that is

00:24:54.580 becoming

00:24:55.140 completely

00:24:56.500 twisted.

00:24:57.560 Now, you

00:25:00.100 see people

00:25:00.940 who seem

00:25:02.300 to be

00:25:02.600 otherwise

00:25:03.040 intelligent

00:25:03.700 just using

00:25:04.560 the word

00:25:04.980 capitalism at

00:25:06.060 random as

00:25:07.760 a synonym

00:25:08.300 for destruction,

00:25:12.600 you know,

00:25:12.860 the hatred

00:25:13.380 of the few

00:25:14.420 for the many,

00:25:16.680 the overwhelming

00:25:19.180 attempt to

00:25:20.060 dominate the

00:25:21.000 many by the

00:25:22.000 few, crime,

00:25:24.480 etc., etc.,

00:25:25.200 etc., when

00:25:25.980 by and

00:25:27.560 large,

00:25:28.120 what capitalism

00:25:29.180 really means

00:25:30.040 is the free

00:25:30.840 market if one

00:25:31.700 existed anywhere

00:25:33.860 where you could

00:25:34.940 have people

00:25:35.640 developing and

00:25:37.000 selling products

00:25:38.240 completely unhindered

00:25:39.900 by the government

00:25:40.620 and untortured

00:25:42.480 by the government.

00:25:44.320 And that's a

00:25:45.480 good thing.

00:25:46.420 It's always a

00:25:47.140 good thing.

00:25:47.600 but yet,

00:25:50.140 no,

00:25:51.360 this is now

00:25:52.120 being, you

00:25:52.960 know,

00:25:53.520 heralded as

00:25:54.460 sinful behavior

00:25:56.740 that has to

00:25:57.440 stop.

00:25:59.820 And, you

00:26:00.440 know, I would

00:26:00.900 say along with

00:26:01.700 that,

00:26:02.580 especially,

00:26:04.760 well, I've

00:26:05.320 been told about

00:26:06.080 this,

00:26:07.500 let's see,

00:26:08.040 I was on a

00:26:08.560 radio program,

00:26:09.440 I think,

00:26:09.840 from Norway.

00:26:10.840 the number

00:26:15.080 of people

00:26:15.860 throughout the

00:26:16.720 country that

00:26:17.240 actually work

00:26:18.000 for one form

00:26:18.800 of the government

00:26:19.320 or another.

00:26:21.180 And in the

00:26:21.680 United States,

00:26:22.540 this number

00:26:22.980 keeps advancing

00:26:23.840 all the time.

00:26:25.420 If you look at

00:26:26.320 the number of

00:26:26.800 people who

00:26:27.260 are working

00:26:27.720 for some

00:26:28.240 form of

00:26:28.860 local or

00:26:30.720 state or

00:26:31.520 federal government

00:26:32.340 or the

00:26:33.000 military or

00:26:33.720 the police,

00:26:35.040 some agency

00:26:35.820 of the

00:26:36.180 government

00:26:36.480 somewhere,

00:26:37.160 that number

00:26:39.820 the last

00:26:40.520 time I

00:26:40.980 tried to

00:26:41.560 calculate it

00:26:42.340 turned out

00:26:42.900 to be

00:26:43.260 something on

00:26:43.920 the order

00:26:44.320 of one

00:26:44.680 out of

00:26:44.980 every ten

00:26:45.560 people.

00:26:47.820 So you

00:26:48.620 know where

00:26:49.140 their sympathies

00:26:50.120 lie because

00:26:51.420 that's where

00:26:51.860 their paycheck

00:26:52.380 is.

00:26:53.820 So whatever

00:26:54.220 the government

00:26:54.760 wants,

00:26:55.440 these people

00:26:55.900 are going to

00:26:56.200 go along

00:26:56.680 with and

00:26:57.160 they have

00:26:57.620 no background

00:26:58.320 or experience

00:26:59.240 or feeling

00:27:02.620 of victory

00:27:03.480 from having

00:27:04.820 done exactly

00:27:05.760 in their lives

00:27:06.400 what they

00:27:06.720 wanted to

00:27:07.360 do and

00:27:08.520 making it

00:27:09.140 a success.

00:27:10.960 So naturally

00:27:11.540 they're going

00:27:11.880 to be very

00:27:12.260 suspicious of

00:27:13.040 that especially

00:27:13.620 because it's

00:27:14.360 against everything

00:27:15.200 that their

00:27:15.800 employer,

00:27:17.820 in this case

00:27:18.260 the government,

00:27:18.860 stands for.

00:27:20.860 And so you're

00:27:21.280 going to get

00:27:21.620 an increasing,

00:27:22.800 you're already

00:27:23.240 getting it,

00:27:24.560 and especially

00:27:25.060 under Obama

00:27:25.840 now but it's

00:27:26.820 been all

00:27:28.280 modern presidents.

00:27:30.900 More and more

00:27:31.940 government,

00:27:32.600 more and more

00:27:32.980 people working

00:27:33.800 for government,

00:27:34.880 more and more

00:27:35.360 people owing

00:27:36.460 their lives

00:27:37.360 and their

00:27:37.760 survival to

00:27:38.480 government.

00:27:40.120 And so to

00:27:41.060 them,

00:27:42.480 collectivism

00:27:43.320 is

00:27:44.780 absolute

00:27:47.200 common sense

00:27:48.300 on the level

00:27:49.040 of what it

00:27:50.140 takes for them

00:27:50.860 to survive

00:27:51.700 in the world.

00:27:53.720 Well then,

00:27:54.480 aren't these

00:27:54.900 people that

00:27:55.480 can't hack it

00:27:56.200 on their own?

00:27:57.040 Kind of like

00:27:57.600 children?

00:27:58.320 So they want

00:27:58.840 to go run

00:27:59.300 to daddy

00:27:59.720 to take care

00:28:00.300 of them?

00:28:00.580 They want to

00:28:00.820 have that

00:28:01.100 safety net

00:28:01.700 there all the

00:28:02.160 time?

00:28:03.240 You bet.

00:28:03.840 So they

00:28:04.200 actually fear

00:28:05.040 the idea

00:28:05.620 of freedom

00:28:06.440 and a free

00:28:07.080 society?

00:28:08.000 Because they

00:28:08.320 know in

00:28:08.600 their heart

00:28:08.880 of hearts

00:28:09.260 that they

00:28:09.660 can't really

00:28:10.580 hack it?

00:28:12.260 That's right.

00:28:14.740 So now,

00:28:15.720 if you want

00:28:16.120 to talk

00:28:16.500 about a

00:28:17.060 sociological

00:28:18.700 problem,

00:28:19.880 and here's

00:28:20.280 another area

00:28:21.840 that sociologists

00:28:22.840 don't dare to

00:28:24.200 tread in,

00:28:24.660 it would

00:28:25.620 be,

00:28:26.880 what is

00:28:27.720 the profile

00:28:28.400 of people

00:28:28.860 who work

00:28:29.220 for government?

00:28:30.820 That's a

00:28:31.220 group you

00:28:31.600 could study

00:28:32.100 and come

00:28:33.720 up with

00:28:33.980 some very

00:28:34.420 interesting

00:28:34.940 factors.

00:28:36.920 Way back

00:28:37.700 in 1964,

00:28:40.200 I got a

00:28:41.600 job for a

00:28:42.320 few months

00:28:42.860 as a social

00:28:44.240 worker in

00:28:45.720 Los Angeles.

00:28:47.340 I think it

00:28:47.780 was the

00:28:48.200 county of

00:28:48.660 Los Angeles,

00:28:49.340 and I

00:28:49.480 worked out

00:28:49.840 of a big

00:28:50.280 office downtown.

00:28:53.140 And I

00:28:54.660 two things

00:28:55.300 that I

00:28:55.600 remember very

00:28:56.220 much about

00:28:56.680 that is,

00:28:57.260 one,

00:28:58.240 I was sent

00:28:58.800 out to

00:28:59.280 interview a

00:29:00.220 woman.

00:29:00.600 It was a

00:29:00.900 routine

00:29:01.300 interview to

00:29:02.100 renew her

00:29:03.140 welfare payments.

00:29:05.880 She had,

00:29:06.500 I think,

00:29:06.780 two children,

00:29:08.140 and the

00:29:08.620 program was

00:29:09.180 called Aid

00:29:09.780 to Families

00:29:10.640 with Dependent

00:29:11.340 Children.

00:29:11.840 Well,

00:29:12.000 in her case,

00:29:13.380 she was the

00:29:13.860 only parent.

00:29:15.820 And so

00:29:16.120 during the

00:29:16.660 interview,

00:29:17.100 because I

00:29:17.480 was completely

00:29:18.040 naive and

00:29:18.900 just was

00:29:19.760 kind of

00:29:20.080 winging the

00:29:20.560 whole thing,

00:29:21.720 I said,

00:29:22.760 do you

00:29:23.760 think there's

00:29:24.500 ever going

00:29:25.480 to be a

00:29:25.800 prospect that

00:29:26.660 you'll find

00:29:28.180 a job?

00:29:30.160 And she

00:29:30.780 looked at me

00:29:31.340 like I was

00:29:31.820 totally insane,

00:29:34.260 completely and

00:29:35.340 utterly insane.

00:29:37.440 This was

00:29:38.060 1964.

00:29:41.060 And so

00:29:42.220 I was,

00:29:43.160 you know,

00:29:43.980 I was as

00:29:44.500 shocked as

00:29:44.980 she was by

00:29:46.140 her reaction.

00:29:47.360 It's like,

00:29:47.940 well,

00:29:48.220 I guess,

00:29:49.280 you know,

00:29:49.660 this is what

00:29:50.140 we're dealing

00:29:50.580 with here.

00:29:51.960 This is a

00:29:52.740 permanent

00:29:53.180 underclass.

00:29:54.500 And there

00:29:55.260 is no

00:29:55.740 way that

00:29:56.540 this is

00:29:56.940 going to

00:29:57.620 shrink.

00:29:58.920 It's only

00:29:59.700 going to

00:30:00.040 get bigger

00:30:00.520 and more

00:30:01.000 overwhelming.

00:30:03.600 And by

00:30:03.860 the way,

00:30:04.320 if you

00:30:04.680 then added

00:30:05.500 into the

00:30:06.180 number of

00:30:06.560 people who

00:30:06.980 work for

00:30:07.520 the government

00:30:07.900 in some

00:30:08.220 capacity,

00:30:09.360 all the

00:30:09.840 people who

00:30:10.320 are receiving

00:30:10.960 some form

00:30:11.880 of government

00:30:12.480 subsidy,

00:30:15.040 now you're

00:30:15.940 talking about

00:30:16.780 maybe one

00:30:17.620 out of four

00:30:18.540 or three

00:30:19.320 Americans.

00:30:19.920 because we've

00:30:21.860 got 50

00:30:22.340 million people

00:30:22.940 on food

00:30:23.420 stamps and

00:30:25.140 who knows

00:30:25.600 how many

00:30:25.960 other people

00:30:26.560 on different

00:30:27.240 types of

00:30:28.220 government

00:30:29.620 subsidy.

00:30:31.580 And the

00:30:31.760 other thing

00:30:32.100 that happened

00:30:32.540 was I sat

00:30:33.220 in on a

00:30:33.620 meeting one

00:30:34.140 day of

00:30:35.560 case workers

00:30:36.380 at this

00:30:38.900 welfare,

00:30:39.720 county welfare

00:30:40.360 agency.

00:30:41.740 And they

00:30:42.000 were talking

00:30:42.620 about,

00:30:44.260 I think it

00:30:45.520 was the

00:30:45.840 1964 election

00:30:47.540 and how

00:30:48.360 LBJ had

00:30:51.200 to win

00:30:51.660 because he

00:30:52.100 was running

00:30:52.440 against

00:30:52.800 gold water

00:30:53.540 and so

00:30:53.900 forth and

00:30:54.320 so on.

00:30:56.020 And I

00:30:58.320 just looked

00:30:58.760 at the faces

00:30:59.300 of the

00:30:59.640 people in

00:31:00.060 the room.

00:31:02.800 And it

00:31:03.460 was a

00:31:04.080 chilling

00:31:04.880 tale that

00:31:05.820 those

00:31:06.280 expressions

00:31:06.900 told.

00:31:07.600 It was

00:31:07.840 like these

00:31:09.440 case workers

00:31:10.340 were as

00:31:10.880 dedicated as

00:31:11.940 the recipients

00:31:12.560 were to

00:31:14.500 perpetuating

00:31:15.440 the system

00:31:16.120 forever

00:31:17.380 without end.

00:31:19.820 That nobody

00:31:20.340 was the

00:31:20.800 slightest bit

00:31:21.540 interested in

00:31:22.460 getting anybody

00:31:23.300 off of

00:31:23.940 welfare really.

00:31:26.360 That that

00:31:26.680 was just,

00:31:28.820 you know,

00:31:29.100 unless it

00:31:29.660 was mandated

00:31:30.400 by law

00:31:31.360 that,

00:31:31.800 you know,

00:31:32.040 after whatever

00:31:32.860 four or five

00:31:33.520 years the

00:31:34.900 payments would

00:31:35.440 stop.

00:31:36.880 As far as

00:31:37.640 the people in

00:31:38.120 the room

00:31:38.440 were concerned,

00:31:39.280 this was

00:31:39.940 forever.

00:31:41.840 And they

00:31:42.200 were dedicated

00:31:42.880 to it and

00:31:43.940 this is where

00:31:44.500 they were going

00:31:44.820 to spend the

00:31:45.260 rest of their

00:31:45.700 lives doing

00:31:46.420 this.

00:31:48.160 So that's,

00:31:50.120 you know,

00:31:50.660 35,

00:31:52.680 almost 50

00:31:53.640 years ago

00:31:54.100 now.

00:31:55.540 And so

00:31:56.400 you can see

00:31:58.560 what's happened

00:31:59.220 since then.

00:32:00.160 And this is a

00:32:01.040 deliberate attempt

00:32:02.000 to completely

00:32:04.540 really outlaw

00:32:06.240 the individual

00:32:06.940 as a

00:32:08.040 significant

00:32:08.500 force,

00:32:09.880 most of all

00:32:11.360 for himself

00:32:12.120 or herself

00:32:12.820 in the

00:32:14.260 world.

00:32:15.260 That is the

00:32:16.340 objective.

00:32:17.260 If you can

00:32:17.860 erase and

00:32:18.480 eradicate the

00:32:19.300 individual so

00:32:20.760 that he or

00:32:21.280 she no longer

00:32:22.060 thinks of

00:32:22.640 himself as

00:32:23.320 an independent

00:32:24.200 individual with

00:32:25.720 his own

00:32:26.160 thoughts,

00:32:26.700 ideas,

00:32:27.380 dreams,

00:32:28.020 visions,

00:32:28.980 and determination

00:32:30.240 to achieve

00:32:31.260 something in

00:32:31.980 life,

00:32:32.860 then the

00:32:34.800 battle is

00:32:35.260 over.

00:32:36.260 Then the

00:32:36.940 whole ship

00:32:37.460 sinks.

00:32:37.940 everything is

00:32:39.340 underwater.

00:32:40.500 Then the

00:32:41.360 entire society

00:32:42.500 is now run

00:32:43.480 by government

00:32:45.840 command from

00:32:47.460 the top,

00:32:48.400 of course,

00:32:49.380 in partnership

00:32:49.960 with corporations

00:32:50.860 and other,

00:32:51.500 you know,

00:32:53.120 heavy hitter

00:32:53.800 players like

00:32:54.840 Council on

00:32:55.440 Foreign Relations,

00:32:56.420 Trilateral

00:32:56.840 Commission,

00:32:57.540 et cetera,

00:32:57.920 et cetera.

00:32:59.000 And this is

00:32:59.900 what we see

00:33:00.400 happening in

00:33:01.000 front of our

00:33:01.440 eyes.

00:33:02.380 I notice,

00:33:03.260 too,

00:33:03.380 people always

00:33:03.980 want to

00:33:04.340 point the

00:33:04.980 fingers at

00:33:05.460 it's those

00:33:05.940 evil corporations.

00:33:07.360 You know,

00:33:07.660 they've stolen

00:33:08.340 our money.

00:33:08.980 The only way

00:33:09.360 they've stolen

00:33:09.780 your money

00:33:10.220 is through

00:33:10.740 taxes.

00:33:11.960 So you

00:33:12.540 should be

00:33:12.820 pointing the

00:33:13.380 finger at

00:33:13.900 government.

00:33:14.720 And if you

00:33:15.060 don't like

00:33:15.360 these corporations,

00:33:16.000 you don't

00:33:16.260 have to buy

00:33:16.800 what they're

00:33:17.220 selling.

00:33:17.640 They're not

00:33:17.900 coming to

00:33:18.260 your house

00:33:18.620 putting a

00:33:19.040 gun to

00:33:19.260 your head

00:33:19.520 and saying,

00:33:20.120 buy our

00:33:20.500 cell phone,

00:33:21.320 you know?

00:33:23.240 Yeah,

00:33:23.700 I have some

00:33:24.140 personal experience

00:33:25.100 with this

00:33:25.520 because in

00:33:26.040 1995 or so,

00:33:28.800 I started

00:33:29.480 something called

00:33:31.260 the Great

00:33:31.720 Boycott of

00:33:33.760 the eight

00:33:34.240 largest

00:33:34.800 corporations

00:33:36.300 in the

00:33:36.680 world that

00:33:37.280 produce

00:33:38.100 pesticides,

00:33:40.480 genetically

00:33:40.820 engineered

00:33:41.280 food,

00:33:42.300 and

00:33:42.860 pharmaceutical

00:33:43.340 drugs.

00:33:44.620 I said,

00:33:45.040 well,

00:33:45.340 you know,

00:33:45.600 let's boycott

00:33:46.140 these corporations.

00:33:47.220 And so I

00:33:47.940 wrote up this

00:33:50.320 long white

00:33:51.020 paper and

00:33:52.320 the original

00:33:52.760 name of it

00:33:53.260 was Revolt

00:33:53.800 Against the

00:33:54.280 Empire.

00:33:55.860 And it

00:33:56.040 was the

00:33:56.300 idea,

00:33:56.700 okay,

00:33:56.960 these

00:33:57.240 corporations

00:33:57.840 are evil

00:33:58.460 because they're

00:34:00.180 promoting poison

00:34:01.100 and they're

00:34:01.960 selling it and

00:34:03.060 nobody's stopping

00:34:03.940 them from

00:34:04.340 doing it.

00:34:04.800 So the

00:34:06.040 only alternative

00:34:06.940 we have is to

00:34:07.840 boycott their

00:34:08.400 products.

00:34:08.820 So don't buy

00:34:09.540 these products,

00:34:10.420 period.

00:34:11.940 Well,

00:34:12.360 eventually it

00:34:13.060 turned into a

00:34:13.780 kind of an

00:34:14.300 educational seminar

00:34:16.260 because a lot

00:34:17.200 of people became

00:34:18.620 clued in on what

00:34:19.560 these corporations

00:34:20.180 were actually doing

00:34:21.080 it and I think it

00:34:21.840 spawned a number

00:34:22.700 of journalistic

00:34:24.920 efforts and maybe

00:34:26.060 some books and so

00:34:27.000 forth.

00:34:27.880 But the actual

00:34:29.020 participation in

00:34:30.260 the boycott,

00:34:31.500 people were just

00:34:33.520 unwilling to

00:34:36.160 acknowledge at

00:34:40.320 the root just

00:34:42.000 what you just

00:34:42.560 said.

00:34:43.340 Hey, if it's a

00:34:43.980 corporation and you

00:34:44.800 don't like what

00:34:45.300 they're selling,

00:34:45.880 don't buy it.

00:34:47.640 It's very simple.

00:34:48.800 people, but why

00:34:49.920 weren't these

00:34:50.520 people, the

00:34:51.640 general public or

00:34:53.200 some significant

00:34:54.400 fraction able to

00:34:55.660 see that equation

00:34:56.780 because they

00:34:58.140 weren't able to

00:34:58.900 see themselves as

00:34:59.860 individuals who

00:35:00.800 had a choice about

00:35:02.040 anything.

00:35:02.440 Yeah, they wait

00:35:03.460 for the FDA to

00:35:04.400 tell them it's

00:35:04.920 safe.

00:35:06.280 Exactly.

00:35:08.060 Exactly.

00:35:08.640 And if the FDA

00:35:09.460 didn't say this

00:35:12.120 is a threat to

00:35:12.900 you, then they

00:35:13.780 would just go

00:35:14.300 along because

00:35:15.860 that's what they

00:35:16.980 do.

00:35:17.300 They go along.

00:35:19.700 And of course,

00:35:20.560 the other side of

00:35:21.260 this coin is what

00:35:22.440 is the individual

00:35:23.580 when he or she

00:35:24.960 is independent,

00:35:26.100 free, can think

00:35:28.660 clearly about his

00:35:29.660 own aims and

00:35:30.820 objectives.

00:35:32.440 And has the

00:35:33.100 creative power to

00:35:34.040 make it happen.

00:35:36.140 That is what is

00:35:39.380 being lost in the

00:35:40.340 world, and that

00:35:41.080 has to be

00:35:41.940 regained.

00:35:44.960 I think it's

00:35:45.760 interesting, too,

00:35:46.260 that modern

00:35:46.680 collectivists, they

00:35:48.020 see a collectivist

00:35:49.880 society as some

00:35:50.580 kind of super

00:35:51.300 organism, some

00:35:52.240 supernatural entity

00:35:53.600 that's apart from

00:35:54.600 us, yet many of

00:35:55.660 them are atheists,

00:35:56.520 but then all of a

00:35:57.240 sudden it seems like

00:35:57.980 they're getting

00:35:58.360 metaphysical and

00:35:59.540 talking about

00:36:00.400 utopian philosophy

00:36:01.780 when it comes to

00:36:02.580 this particular

00:36:03.240 subject matter.

00:36:04.340 Why is that?

00:36:06.420 Yeah, that's a

00:36:07.680 key point.

00:36:09.180 It's a religion

00:36:10.180 for them because

00:36:11.000 they have nothing

00:36:11.900 to believe in.

00:36:13.820 I'm not saying

00:36:14.820 that you have to

00:36:15.520 have a religion,

00:36:16.660 but I am saying

00:36:17.740 that many people,

00:36:19.860 if they come to

00:36:21.000 the conclusion that

00:36:21.900 they have no

00:36:22.560 religious faith

00:36:23.280 themselves, will

00:36:24.920 look for it

00:36:25.840 somewhere else,

00:36:27.660 even though they

00:36:28.520 would never

00:36:28.900 acknowledge that's

00:36:29.780 what they're

00:36:30.080 doing.

00:36:31.500 And so they

00:36:31.960 want this

00:36:32.600 supernatural

00:36:33.360 rationalization.

00:36:36.340 It's not enough

00:36:37.160 even for them to

00:36:38.120 say, I'm a

00:36:39.560 socialist.

00:36:40.560 That's what I

00:36:41.140 believe in.

00:36:41.800 Society should be

00:36:42.600 planned and

00:36:43.140 structured and

00:36:43.700 this and that,

00:36:44.260 and this is why.

00:36:45.640 It's more like,

00:36:46.940 this is the

00:36:48.400 future.

00:36:49.300 This is utopia.

00:36:50.680 This is what

00:36:51.560 humanity has been

00:36:52.640 striving for for the

00:36:54.580 last 100,000 years,

00:36:56.420 and we're

00:36:56.820 finally going to

00:36:58.340 reach this

00:36:58.940 exalted state.

00:37:01.140 And yes, it is

00:37:01.820 very mystical and

00:37:02.880 they see it as

00:37:03.680 some sort of

00:37:04.600 spiritual union

00:37:06.920 of all souls,

00:37:09.300 you know,

00:37:09.760 minds, etc.,

00:37:11.280 etc.

00:37:11.780 And this is where

00:37:12.920 technocracy comes

00:37:14.900 in as well.

00:37:16.180 It's like the

00:37:16.940 big brain.

00:37:19.120 Yes, we'll be

00:37:19.760 able to hook you

00:37:20.540 up to a

00:37:21.640 computer that's

00:37:23.240 50 times or

00:37:24.240 5,000 times more

00:37:25.500 powerful in your

00:37:26.360 own brain,

00:37:27.280 works the same

00:37:28.320 way, and then

00:37:29.760 you will be

00:37:30.900 super empowered

00:37:33.480 and so will

00:37:35.740 everybody else.

00:37:37.540 And so we

00:37:38.080 could essentially

00:37:39.020 have one giant

00:37:42.020 brain that

00:37:42.620 everybody plugs

00:37:43.400 into.

00:37:45.420 And what they

00:37:46.440 sort of fail to

00:37:48.200 tell you is that

00:37:49.260 yeah, but in

00:37:49.980 that system,

00:37:51.400 everybody's going

00:37:52.820 to come to the

00:37:53.360 same conclusions

00:37:54.180 questions because

00:37:55.620 they're going to

00:37:56.000 be acting on the

00:37:56.800 same data and

00:37:58.700 the same processes

00:37:59.820 to derive answers

00:38:02.260 from that data.

00:38:03.900 So it's sort of

00:38:05.000 the smart version

00:38:06.320 of collectivism.

00:38:09.320 You know, this is

00:38:09.800 for the computer

00:38:10.500 geeks and the

00:38:11.440 techno freaks and

00:38:12.760 the people who,

00:38:14.760 you know, they're

00:38:15.360 looking for religion

00:38:16.220 too.

00:38:17.140 And they found it

00:38:18.420 in the machine.

00:38:19.060 And that's where

00:38:20.980 they're praying,

00:38:21.820 at that altar.

00:38:23.380 Oh, yes.

00:38:24.160 Now, you know, I

00:38:25.320 mean, Roy

00:38:25.760 Kurzweil, who's

00:38:27.120 the research

00:38:29.660 director for

00:38:30.420 Google now, but

00:38:31.340 he's been pounding

00:38:33.140 away as a thinker

00:38:34.880 on these issues

00:38:35.740 for years and

00:38:36.600 written a number

00:38:37.120 of books.

00:38:39.200 You know, he's

00:38:40.160 basically saying

00:38:41.100 that we will find

00:38:42.300 God eventually

00:38:44.960 through this.

00:38:45.800 when you can

00:38:47.280 hook up a human

00:38:48.060 brain to a

00:38:48.940 computer and

00:38:50.780 download into

00:38:52.020 that human

00:38:52.780 brain everything

00:38:53.500 that's in the

00:38:54.080 computer or

00:38:54.760 access it, then

00:38:57.060 we will have

00:38:57.620 reached a point

00:38:58.400 where enough

00:39:00.800 people are so

00:39:01.880 super intelligent

00:39:03.720 that God will

00:39:05.540 emerge as

00:39:06.640 something, whatever

00:39:07.560 it is, out of

00:39:09.380 the machine.

00:39:10.800 I mean, that's

00:39:11.420 how far he'll

00:39:12.160 go with this.

00:39:13.520 So this is

00:39:14.700 religion.

00:39:15.800 It's just, you

00:39:16.740 know, with a

00:39:17.040 different face, a

00:39:17.960 weird face.

00:39:19.640 It kind of

00:39:20.320 reminds me, too,

00:39:20.960 when you're

00:39:21.160 talking about

00:39:21.740 the Venus

00:39:23.340 Project.

00:39:23.980 Have you heard

00:39:24.280 about that?

00:39:26.040 No.

00:39:26.840 Well, okay,

00:39:27.640 Jacques Fresco, he

00:39:28.740 has this kind of

00:39:29.400 utopian resource-based

00:39:31.040 economy.

00:39:31.980 It's socialist with

00:39:33.620 a twist of machines,

00:39:34.880 basically.

00:39:35.340 No one would work.

00:39:36.060 Instead, machines

00:39:36.760 would do all the

00:39:37.240 jobs and everyone

00:39:38.420 will get yachts and

00:39:39.540 whatever they dream

00:39:40.340 of, you know, they

00:39:41.240 all get to share, but

00:39:42.660 machines will do all

00:39:43.540 the work.

00:39:43.900 And the question

00:39:45.700 is, well, who's

00:39:46.520 going to program

00:39:47.160 these machines, of

00:39:48.040 course?

00:39:49.480 Right.

00:39:50.440 Well, this was

00:39:51.360 Buckminster Fuller's

00:39:52.420 vision.

00:39:54.400 Utopia or

00:39:55.260 oblivion was maybe

00:39:56.620 the clearest

00:39:57.140 statement he ever

00:39:57.800 made about that.

00:39:59.520 Only he based it

00:40:00.880 on a kind of

00:40:02.100 necessity.

00:40:02.880 He said, look,

00:40:03.980 automation is

00:40:04.940 going to take

00:40:05.580 over in

00:40:06.960 production.

00:40:07.440 And that

00:40:09.440 means that

00:40:10.040 millions and

00:40:10.580 millions and

00:40:11.260 maybe more people

00:40:12.480 are going to be

00:40:12.860 thrown out of

00:40:13.360 jobs eventually and

00:40:14.400 what's going to

00:40:14.860 happen when that

00:40:15.540 happens.

00:40:16.980 And so he

00:40:17.520 argued for a

00:40:18.300 similar kind of

00:40:18.920 society in which

00:40:20.100 there would be a

00:40:22.620 stable platform of

00:40:24.440 everybody in the

00:40:25.980 world is given

00:40:27.480 the basic

00:40:29.100 necessities of

00:40:29.980 survival.

00:40:30.540 But again, the

00:40:34.400 fatal flaw or

00:40:35.520 one of them in

00:40:36.300 his system was

00:40:37.840 who is going to

00:40:39.420 run this show?

00:40:40.520 Yeah.

00:40:41.960 And the

00:40:43.520 government is

00:40:44.200 going to run

00:40:44.620 this show.

00:40:46.000 Some corporation

00:40:47.340 or two or three

00:40:48.400 is going to run

00:40:49.020 this show.

00:40:50.340 And the rest of

00:40:51.860 everybody just

00:40:52.700 trusts that this

00:40:53.820 is all going to

00:40:54.420 work out and

00:40:56.120 that there's

00:40:57.120 nothing sinister

00:40:58.240 or criminal

00:40:58.960 behind.

00:41:00.540 such a program.

00:41:01.700 There's always

00:41:02.380 something sinister

00:41:03.360 behind a program

00:41:04.320 like this.

00:41:06.560 And it's always

00:41:07.800 anti-individual.

00:41:09.140 It's always for

00:41:10.060 the collective.

00:41:12.920 This propaganda

00:41:14.100 element in

00:41:16.060 collectivism is

00:41:17.880 tremendously

00:41:19.160 crucial for

00:41:20.800 people to buy

00:41:21.620 into as far as

00:41:23.540 the controllers are

00:41:24.420 concerned because

00:41:25.340 if they don't,

00:41:28.600 then the whole

00:41:29.440 thing is going to

00:41:30.000 fall apart.

00:41:31.160 If there are

00:41:31.860 enough people

00:41:32.720 out there who

00:41:33.940 say, you know,

00:41:34.960 I see through

00:41:35.600 this, it's

00:41:36.040 completely insane.

00:41:38.160 I'm not my

00:41:39.340 neighbor.

00:41:41.960 My neighbor

00:41:42.900 isn't me.

00:41:44.580 I am not

00:41:45.420 everybody else.

00:41:48.340 Or if I can

00:41:49.840 on some level

00:41:51.660 merge with

00:41:52.360 everybody else,

00:41:53.060 I can unmerge

00:41:54.100 just as easily.

00:41:54.920 this is not

00:41:55.620 some final

00:41:56.460 hardwired

00:41:58.020 state which

00:42:00.120 when you

00:42:00.560 reach, it's

00:42:01.680 the end of

00:42:02.120 the line.

00:42:02.760 That's it.

00:42:05.300 And this

00:42:06.400 is why the

00:42:08.140 propaganda is

00:42:09.240 so important

00:42:09.960 because it's

00:42:13.520 the underpinning

00:42:14.360 of the whole

00:42:15.020 collectivist

00:42:15.960 model.

00:42:16.420 people have

00:42:17.880 to, on a

00:42:19.460 subconscious

00:42:19.960 level, and

00:42:21.540 through peer

00:42:22.100 pressure and

00:42:22.900 so forth, you

00:42:24.240 know, I

00:42:24.620 can't paint my

00:42:25.440 house the

00:42:25.880 color I want

00:42:26.480 to paint it.

00:42:26.980 Well, that's

00:42:27.340 good because I'm

00:42:29.600 now going along

00:42:31.240 with what

00:42:31.640 everybody else

00:42:32.420 thinks and I

00:42:33.100 have to in

00:42:34.320 order to preserve

00:42:35.120 this utopian

00:42:36.080 community or

00:42:37.420 whatever.

00:42:37.720 that's the

00:42:39.920 kind of

00:42:40.240 thinking that

00:42:40.880 has to work

00:42:41.700 in order for

00:42:43.060 this to

00:42:43.420 succeed, this

00:42:44.120 collectivist

00:42:44.780 planet, and

00:42:46.080 people have to

00:42:47.700 buy in.

00:42:48.580 They have to

00:42:49.040 accept it more

00:42:49.980 and more every

00:42:50.860 day.

00:42:53.220 And this is

00:42:53.700 why you get,

00:42:54.760 for example, the

00:42:55.540 aftermath in the

00:42:57.300 wake of all of

00:42:58.020 these mass

00:42:59.080 shootings.

00:43:00.900 We now have

00:43:02.020 to do something

00:43:02.800 about this.

00:43:03.560 All of us

00:43:04.240 have to do

00:43:05.100 something about

00:43:05.720 the fact that

00:43:06.900 some guy went

00:43:07.680 crazy and

00:43:08.480 opened up and

00:43:10.060 shot a whole

00:43:10.600 lot of people

00:43:11.220 or he didn't

00:43:13.400 but somebody

00:43:14.060 was sent in

00:43:14.660 there to

00:43:14.980 actually do

00:43:15.620 it and then

00:43:16.000 blame it on

00:43:16.480 him.

00:43:17.400 But in the

00:43:18.200 aftermath, either

00:43:18.940 way, it's

00:43:20.080 always this

00:43:20.700 sentiment about

00:43:21.580 we're all in

00:43:22.120 this together

00:43:22.700 and we have

00:43:24.000 to find a

00:43:24.580 better way and

00:43:25.400 now this

00:43:25.820 better way is

00:43:26.560 going to be

00:43:27.460 take guns away

00:43:30.060 from everybody

00:43:30.660 and then two,

00:43:32.600 make everybody

00:43:33.300 into a

00:43:35.120 psychiatric

00:43:35.460 patient,

00:43:36.220 basically.

00:43:36.660 everybody has

00:43:39.740 to be under

00:43:40.700 some care

00:43:41.580 of a mental

00:43:43.280 health professional,

00:43:44.680 get a diagnosis,

00:43:46.040 get drugs,

00:43:46.800 etc., etc.,

00:43:47.660 and that will

00:43:49.500 prevent this

00:43:50.340 kind of thing

00:43:50.860 from happening

00:43:51.420 again.

00:43:53.200 These things

00:43:54.020 are always

00:43:54.600 used and

00:43:56.880 as well,

00:43:57.740 you get the

00:43:58.460 sort of

00:43:59.140 subliminal text

00:44:00.240 here, which is

00:44:01.080 you see it was

00:44:02.260 the individual

00:44:02.860 who's the

00:44:03.380 bad guy,

00:44:04.340 the outsider,

00:44:05.440 the lone

00:44:05.780 shooter,

00:44:06.320 the criminal.

00:44:08.440 Any individual

00:44:09.440 is a criminal

00:44:10.140 basically,

00:44:10.900 is the sort

00:44:11.820 of, you

00:44:12.740 know, the

00:44:14.180 equation

00:44:14.680 that's laid

00:44:15.240 on people.

00:44:16.600 And this

00:44:17.240 would never

00:44:17.620 have happened

00:44:18.320 if we were

00:44:20.400 all in this

00:44:20.980 together.

00:44:21.940 You know,

00:44:22.680 never would have

00:44:23.320 happened.

00:44:23.980 And now we

00:44:24.740 have to do

00:44:25.220 something to

00:44:25.740 make sure that

00:44:26.420 we are in

00:44:27.080 this together

00:44:27.540 and we

00:44:28.420 have to do

00:44:28.860 all these

00:44:29.200 things,

00:44:29.900 you know.

00:44:30.900 Yeah, it's

00:44:31.340 the notion

00:44:31.640 that anything

00:44:32.160 society does

00:44:33.000 is right

00:44:33.320 because,

00:44:34.020 well, society

00:44:34.640 chose to do

00:44:35.280 it.

00:44:36.720 Ridiculous.

00:44:37.160 That's right.

00:44:37.900 As if we all

00:44:38.820 sat in some

00:44:39.580 gigantic stadium

00:44:40.540 and we all

00:44:41.180 voted, right?

00:44:42.160 Yeah.

00:44:42.480 And we all

00:44:43.040 knew what we

00:44:43.540 were voting

00:44:44.000 on.

00:44:44.940 Yeah, well,

00:44:46.020 this is what

00:44:46.500 society is doing

00:44:47.580 and therefore

00:44:48.120 it's a good

00:44:48.680 thing.

00:44:49.520 So if you

00:44:50.220 were to dare

00:44:50.980 to speak out

00:44:51.940 and say,

00:44:53.160 the welfare

00:44:55.060 system in

00:44:55.660 America has

00:44:56.280 destroyed millions

00:44:57.300 untold millions

00:44:58.240 of people

00:44:58.720 over the

00:44:59.120 years.

00:45:01.700 Nobody in

00:45:02.800 official circles

00:45:03.680 would give

00:45:04.240 you a

00:45:05.600 microsecond

00:45:06.240 of their

00:45:06.560 time.

00:45:08.080 It would

00:45:08.320 just be,

00:45:10.040 oh, here's

00:45:10.500 a lunatic,

00:45:11.260 okay, let's

00:45:12.060 go on to

00:45:12.540 the next

00:45:12.840 thing.

00:45:14.100 We don't

00:45:14.680 want to hear

00:45:15.160 about it,

00:45:15.660 we want to

00:45:16.060 know about

00:45:16.620 it, and

00:45:18.260 certainly we

00:45:18.840 don't want

00:45:19.200 to actually

00:45:19.760 consider the

00:45:20.700 facts because

00:45:22.460 then it would

00:45:23.020 derail the

00:45:23.920 whole, you

00:45:24.260 know, people

00:45:24.600 might begin to

00:45:25.320 say, well,

00:45:25.880 maybe collectivism

00:45:26.840 isn't the

00:45:27.380 best idea.

00:45:28.980 Maybe we

00:45:29.480 have to look

00:45:29.980 to something

00:45:30.480 else.

00:45:32.780 And of

00:45:33.360 course, that's

00:45:33.920 verboten, you

00:45:34.580 can't have

00:45:35.020 that, impossible.

00:45:37.560 What do you

00:45:38.060 think about the

00:45:38.740 socialists who

00:45:39.600 say, well, food

00:45:40.380 and shelter

00:45:40.820 should be a

00:45:41.360 human right?

00:45:44.520 Yeah, food

00:45:45.280 and shelter

00:45:45.800 should be a

00:45:46.380 human right.

00:45:47.420 Like, someone

00:45:48.160 else should give

00:45:48.700 it to you if

00:45:49.260 you don't work

00:45:49.720 for it.

00:45:50.920 Right.

00:45:51.320 And that's

00:45:53.640 the catch,

00:45:54.380 see, because

00:45:55.940 you know, I

00:45:57.980 know a whole

00:45:58.540 lot of people

00:45:59.280 who if you

00:46:00.680 said that to

00:46:01.420 them, they

00:46:03.960 would say,

00:46:04.600 you mean I

00:46:05.200 can get

00:46:05.580 that?

00:46:06.400 And you'd

00:46:06.980 say, yeah,

00:46:08.100 sign me up

00:46:08.820 right now.

00:46:11.120 The temptation

00:46:12.200 is enormous.

00:46:13.240 And I'm

00:46:16.040 not just

00:46:16.380 talking about

00:46:17.000 people who,

00:46:19.380 you know,

00:46:20.100 in their own

00:46:21.720 minds say,

00:46:23.900 I can't

00:46:24.460 work, I

00:46:25.020 can't hold

00:46:25.620 a job, I

00:46:26.400 can't function

00:46:27.320 in society.

00:46:28.360 I'm talking

00:46:29.240 about millions

00:46:29.900 of people who

00:46:30.760 can function.

00:46:33.540 But you

00:46:34.400 give them

00:46:34.900 that out,

00:46:36.600 and over

00:46:38.000 the years,

00:46:38.900 they're going

00:46:39.180 to be just

00:46:39.760 enormous numbers

00:46:40.920 of people who

00:46:41.620 take it.

00:46:43.240 and in

00:46:44.420 taking it,

00:46:46.520 they're going

00:46:49.120 to destroy

00:46:49.780 themselves.

00:46:50.960 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:52.000 It's like when

00:46:52.540 you go to the

00:46:53.000 park just the

00:46:53.600 other day,

00:46:54.060 I was in a

00:46:54.420 park and

00:46:54.660 it says,

00:46:54.960 don't feed

00:46:55.600 the alligators

00:46:56.300 because, you

00:46:57.020 know, you're

00:46:57.280 going to kill

00:46:57.640 them basically

00:46:58.180 if you do,

00:46:58.700 because they

00:46:59.040 get dependent

00:46:59.700 on the food

00:47:00.420 and then they

00:47:00.840 stop looking

00:47:01.320 for it on

00:47:01.980 their own.

00:47:04.060 Yeah, that's

00:47:05.480 right.

00:47:07.680 I mean, I

00:47:08.980 understand, you

00:47:10.500 know, you get

00:47:11.660 the society where

00:47:12.500 the rich are

00:47:12.900 getting richer

00:47:13.360 and the poor

00:47:13.780 are getting

00:47:14.060 poorer.

00:47:15.840 And you

00:47:16.420 say, that's

00:47:17.060 not justice.

00:47:19.180 And it

00:47:19.420 isn't because

00:47:20.420 this is not

00:47:21.820 happening in a

00:47:22.460 free market

00:47:22.940 economy, it's

00:47:24.280 happening in a

00:47:24.860 planned economy.

00:47:26.740 In other

00:47:27.040 words, the

00:47:27.520 people who run

00:47:28.320 the economy

00:47:29.480 and run the

00:47:30.080 country are

00:47:30.700 planning to

00:47:32.320 have this

00:47:32.900 extreme division

00:47:33.800 get wider and

00:47:34.660 the gulf get

00:47:35.180 wider and

00:47:35.720 wider.

00:47:36.300 And people

00:47:36.700 have to

00:47:36.980 understand that.

00:47:38.160 That's the

00:47:38.780 plan, you

00:47:39.760 know.

00:47:39.980 the plan

00:47:41.160 isn't for

00:47:41.920 a utopia.

00:47:43.200 That's the

00:47:43.700 cover story.

00:47:44.540 That's the

00:47:44.960 baloney up

00:47:46.220 front that's

00:47:47.520 supposed to

00:47:48.000 convince people

00:47:48.700 that they have

00:47:49.240 to go for

00:47:49.700 this utopian

00:47:50.360 vision.

00:47:52.400 So when you

00:47:53.480 have a

00:47:53.880 situation like

00:47:54.860 that where

00:47:56.040 through crime

00:47:58.520 basically,

00:48:00.940 continuing

00:48:01.720 organized crime

00:48:03.760 at the highest

00:48:05.160 levels, the

00:48:06.340 rich are getting

00:48:06.820 richer and the

00:48:07.360 poor are getting

00:48:07.840 poorer.

00:48:08.220 poor and

00:48:09.440 nobody's

00:48:10.040 prosecuting the

00:48:10.920 criminals, then

00:48:13.060 sure, you're

00:48:13.640 going to have

00:48:13.900 lots of

00:48:14.300 people that

00:48:14.740 are hurting.

00:48:16.260 You bet.

00:48:18.320 Now, to go

00:48:20.020 from there

00:48:20.620 though and to

00:48:21.120 say that the

00:48:21.840 solution to

00:48:22.720 this is to

00:48:25.000 give everybody

00:48:25.600 food and

00:48:26.200 shelter, is

00:48:28.040 just playing

00:48:28.720 into the hands

00:48:29.480 of the people

00:48:30.140 who are

00:48:30.860 destroying the

00:48:31.720 population with

00:48:32.720 their plan of

00:48:33.820 rich getting

00:48:34.280 richer and

00:48:34.780 poor getting

00:48:35.180 poorer.

00:48:35.540 because it's

00:48:36.660 just going to

00:48:37.160 put people in

00:48:37.900 a situation

00:48:38.580 where you're

00:48:41.060 going to have

00:48:41.300 millions more

00:48:42.040 people who

00:48:42.500 just sit around

00:48:43.020 and watch

00:48:43.340 television all

00:48:44.040 day because

00:48:45.800 their rent and

00:48:46.380 food is covered.

00:48:48.480 That's what's

00:48:49.140 going to happen.

00:48:50.400 And so what

00:48:50.980 are the chances

00:48:51.620 that those

00:48:52.320 millions of

00:48:52.920 people are

00:48:53.460 going to

00:48:53.740 rebel against

00:48:55.000 this plan?

00:48:56.380 Zero.

00:48:57.280 Less than

00:48:57.740 zero.

00:48:58.340 But the people

00:48:58.800 that provide the

00:48:59.460 jobs and work

00:49:00.140 will take off.

00:49:00.920 I mean, we saw

00:49:01.340 that happening in

00:49:02.040 Sweden.

00:49:02.820 All the young

00:49:03.340 entrepreneurs that

00:49:04.080 have brilliant

00:49:04.500 ideas, they

00:49:05.120 leave Sweden

00:49:05.860 to achieve

00:49:06.500 their dreams

00:49:07.040 and goals

00:49:07.480 because they

00:49:07.960 can't do it

00:49:08.440 in that kind

00:49:08.800 of collectivist

00:49:09.440 society where

00:49:10.340 they tax you

00:49:10.900 to death before

00:49:11.460 you even make

00:49:11.960 a move.

00:49:13.260 Right.

00:49:13.920 And the places

00:49:14.820 where they can

00:49:15.560 go are getting

00:49:17.920 scarcer and

00:49:18.680 scarcer.

00:49:19.300 Yeah, it's

00:49:19.760 true.

00:49:20.640 It's not like,

00:49:21.540 well, there's

00:49:22.000 15 countries we

00:49:23.080 know we can

00:49:23.700 really do great

00:49:24.480 in.

00:49:25.340 Maybe, you

00:49:27.100 know, the

00:49:28.180 controls are

00:49:28.940 getting tighter.

00:49:29.600 And then you

00:49:30.040 have people who

00:49:30.880 would say, you

00:49:32.880 know, like,

00:49:33.320 maybe it's

00:49:35.080 still that way.

00:49:35.680 I don't know.

00:49:36.160 But it used

00:49:36.680 to be that in

00:49:38.540 America people

00:49:39.380 looked at

00:49:39.980 Sweden and

00:49:40.620 said, man, I

00:49:42.300 wish I could

00:49:42.700 live there because

00:49:43.520 look, everything

00:49:44.080 is great.

00:49:45.420 People are

00:49:45.880 happy.

00:49:47.480 You know, it's

00:49:49.040 basically a kind

00:49:49.980 of a welfare

00:49:50.460 state and nobody

00:49:53.180 really has to

00:49:53.840 work that hard

00:49:54.860 and fantastic,

00:49:57.260 fantastic.

00:49:57.600 And then you

00:49:58.980 say, yeah, okay,

00:50:00.200 so what are the

00:50:00.780 taxes like over

00:50:01.640 there?

00:50:02.960 How much of

00:50:03.640 what you make do

00:50:04.340 you have to give

00:50:04.780 to the government?

00:50:06.060 And so then if

00:50:06.760 you scratch below

00:50:07.340 the surface, it

00:50:08.060 sort of turns out

00:50:08.860 that, yeah, life

00:50:10.220 is okay if, first

00:50:12.740 of all, you have

00:50:13.900 no questions about

00:50:14.940 the way society is

00:50:15.940 run and you keep

00:50:16.600 your mouth shut.

00:50:18.240 And two, you pay

00:50:20.820 what the government

00:50:21.300 tells you to pay to

00:50:22.340 them and you work

00:50:24.180 at your job and you

00:50:24.880 keep your head down

00:50:25.600 and that's it.

00:50:26.200 That's your life.

00:50:27.440 And if that's what

00:50:28.260 you want or if

00:50:29.080 that's what you can

00:50:29.760 convince yourself you

00:50:30.540 want, then okay.

00:50:32.360 Within those

00:50:33.160 boundaries, I guess

00:50:34.140 you could say I'm

00:50:35.000 happy.

00:50:35.380 It's okay.

00:50:37.100 And unfortunately,

00:50:38.040 that's a whole lot

00:50:38.980 of people.

00:50:40.240 Yeah.

00:50:41.320 But they also seem

00:50:42.460 to think they're

00:50:42.900 still going to have

00:50:43.440 their bling and

00:50:44.200 everything America

00:50:44.940 has to offer while

00:50:46.460 it's a socialist

00:50:47.120 system.

00:50:47.580 No way.

00:50:48.120 Everything goes

00:50:48.680 down the tubes.

00:50:49.960 It goes down to

00:50:50.800 the lowest common

00:50:51.680 denominator.

00:50:52.400 The standards of

00:50:53.100 everything goes way

00:50:54.140 down.

00:50:54.660 And I know the

00:50:56.120 apartments people

00:50:56.800 live in in Sweden.

00:50:57.900 It's not great.

00:51:00.020 I see.

00:51:00.820 Okay.

00:51:01.380 I'm interested in

00:51:02.220 the details of

00:51:03.040 that.

00:51:04.800 Yeah.

00:51:05.280 I mean, they just

00:51:05.780 have enough money

00:51:06.640 to go to the

00:51:07.840 Sistiam Belagits,

00:51:08.860 you know, the

00:51:09.340 government-controlled

00:51:10.380 liquor store, and

00:51:11.540 they drink themselves

00:51:12.620 silly.

00:51:13.120 They have a high

00:51:13.600 alcohol, high

00:51:14.340 suicide rate because

00:51:15.620 they're so controlled

00:51:16.360 from every angle.

00:51:17.380 They're taxed.

00:51:17.960 Even your dog is

00:51:18.760 taxed.

00:51:19.680 Your TV is taxed.

00:51:21.340 The media is run

00:51:22.340 by government.

00:51:22.900 I mean, you get

00:51:23.720 it on every angle

00:51:25.200 there.

00:51:25.860 It's no utopia.

00:51:28.780 But it's fine if you

00:51:29.500 just, it's fine if you

00:51:30.640 exactly like you said,

00:51:31.800 you just want to keep

00:51:32.400 your head down and

00:51:33.620 shut up and not strive

00:51:34.780 for anything more or

00:51:36.040 want to look to

00:51:36.900 something bigger and

00:51:37.840 greater, then it's

00:51:38.680 great for you.

00:51:39.600 But for someone like

00:51:40.400 me, it's the kiss of

00:51:41.320 death.

00:51:42.200 It's death to my soul

00:51:43.240 and my body.

00:51:45.240 You bet.

00:51:45.940 Yeah, I mean, these

00:51:47.660 are the facts that

00:51:49.460 are overlooked when

00:51:51.720 somebody paints a

00:51:52.500 rosy picture of

00:51:53.420 another place.

00:51:54.580 They say, gee, it's

00:51:55.200 great here.

00:51:56.340 So why is everybody

00:51:57.740 an alcoholic and

00:51:58.620 committing suicide if

00:51:59.560 it's so great?

00:52:00.600 Is that part of

00:52:01.420 having a happy life?

00:52:03.240 Yeah, I'm just a

00:52:03.960 happy drunk and I

00:52:04.760 think I'll kill

00:52:05.240 myself.

00:52:05.780 Terrific.

00:52:08.140 You know, it

00:52:08.640 just, it doesn't

00:52:09.440 add up.

00:52:10.360 And it never has

00:52:11.620 added up.

00:52:12.560 And, you know,

00:52:15.960 it's, if a person

00:52:18.980 has any responsibility

00:52:20.020 at all, the first

00:52:22.400 responsibility is to

00:52:23.680 figure out what it

00:52:24.760 is that they

00:52:25.340 actually want in

00:52:27.240 life.

00:52:27.880 Yeah.

00:52:29.320 In the largest

00:52:30.360 terms possible.

00:52:32.080 Not like, you know,

00:52:33.260 I want to convert my

00:52:35.260 fingernail polish

00:52:38.540 salon so that it

00:52:40.020 carries 12 colors of

00:52:41.440 polish rather than

00:52:42.280 10.

00:52:43.700 Something a little

00:52:44.460 bit bigger, as

00:52:45.320 you always say.

00:52:46.260 What is that you

00:52:47.060 truly want?

00:52:48.820 And then to take a

00:52:50.060 good look at that

00:52:50.800 and say, okay,

00:52:53.400 how do I get that?

00:52:55.200 What do I really,

00:52:56.260 really want?

00:52:59.240 And that, you

00:53:01.880 know, is not, no

00:53:02.620 longer part of public

00:53:04.740 discourse.

00:53:07.820 Life, liberty, and

00:53:08.740 the pursuit of

00:53:09.260 happiness.

00:53:09.780 What does that

00:53:10.200 mean?

00:53:10.460 And so, these

00:53:13.880 documents, sentiments,

00:53:17.460 ideals, principles

00:53:19.460 have been trashed one

00:53:21.440 way or another, you

00:53:22.400 know, for the last 50

00:53:23.340 years without let

00:53:25.560 up.

00:53:26.940 And the school

00:53:27.860 systems have

00:53:28.620 completely erased any

00:53:30.140 significant teaching of

00:53:31.500 American history.

00:53:32.300 history, I remember

00:53:34.040 even when I was in

00:53:34.960 school in the 40s and

00:53:36.820 the early 50s, I

00:53:39.900 don't know what they

00:53:40.460 taught in those

00:53:41.040 classes, but whatever

00:53:42.580 it was, I never

00:53:43.320 learned it.

00:53:44.100 It was the most

00:53:44.800 dull, boring kind of

00:53:47.200 stuff there was, and

00:53:49.000 nobody ever said,

00:53:51.480 now this is important

00:53:53.280 and this is why it's

00:53:54.460 important.

00:53:54.860 because the way you're

00:53:58.020 living your life now

00:53:59.260 and your parents are

00:54:00.220 living their lives is

00:54:02.960 predicated on what

00:54:04.080 happened all those

00:54:06.180 years ago.

00:54:08.120 And if that stuff

00:54:09.220 didn't happen, here's

00:54:10.120 how you might be

00:54:10.780 living now.

00:54:12.240 So why don't we look

00:54:13.180 at what happened back

00:54:14.120 then and the people

00:54:15.440 who made it happen and

00:54:17.140 see what that's all

00:54:18.220 about.

00:54:18.600 You know, that was

00:54:19.540 never, never spoken.

00:54:24.380 So it was a total

00:54:25.420 sham.

00:54:26.800 And I have to say that

00:54:28.100 that went on even into

00:54:29.360 college because we had

00:54:33.240 a course that was

00:54:34.040 mandatory called

00:54:35.420 American Studies and

00:54:37.140 they were reports and

00:54:38.440 studies that were

00:54:39.140 published in a series

00:54:40.120 about different periods

00:54:41.100 in American history and

00:54:42.140 we would study these

00:54:44.000 studies and we would

00:54:45.220 write about them and

00:54:45.940 talk about them in

00:54:46.640 class.

00:54:47.040 And never did I get

00:54:48.840 the feeling that there

00:54:49.860 was anything, you

00:54:50.840 know, thrilling,

00:54:51.500 uplifting, exciting,

00:54:53.240 inspiring about any of

00:54:54.560 this really.

00:54:55.640 It was all just sort of

00:54:57.140 dried out dust that

00:55:01.280 you could argue about.

00:55:04.180 And maybe even worse

00:55:05.720 yet, when I started to

00:55:07.960 study the classical

00:55:10.040 philosophers of Greece,

00:55:13.880 Plato, Aristotle,

00:55:15.660 Socrates,

00:55:17.040 mainly, it was never

00:55:19.740 explained.

00:55:21.500 I only realized this

00:55:22.920 years later when I was

00:55:23.900 trying to think about

00:55:24.600 why I felt it was so

00:55:25.820 boring.

00:55:27.160 It was never explained

00:55:28.460 that there had never

00:55:29.200 been anything like this

00:55:30.280 in the history of the

00:55:30.980 world before.

00:55:33.620 That some guy named

00:55:34.720 Plato was suddenly

00:55:35.580 writing dialogues with

00:55:38.480 his teacher Socrates as

00:55:40.060 one mouthpiece and some

00:55:41.540 prominent citizen as

00:55:43.760 another mouthpiece.

00:55:44.580 and they were

00:55:45.040 discussing issues about

00:55:46.360 freedom and so forth

00:55:47.440 and justice and all of

00:55:49.300 this.

00:55:50.040 And regardless of the

00:55:50.800 conclusions that Plato

00:55:51.840 came to, which I think

00:55:52.920 were disastrous, it was

00:55:54.780 the first time that this

00:55:56.880 sort of conversation had

00:55:58.360 ever been written down

00:55:59.760 and this sort of freedom

00:56:02.120 existed to explore these

00:56:05.000 issues anywhere on the

00:56:06.480 planet.

00:56:06.780 It was unprecedented and

00:56:08.600 what came before it was

00:56:10.300 just a sort of a nightmare

00:56:11.400 of dynasties and top-down

00:56:14.040 control and the priest

00:56:15.380 class who made all

00:56:17.020 decisions for everybody

00:56:18.480 and mass slavery and so

00:56:21.060 forth and so on.

00:56:21.860 And so you can see in the

00:56:23.160 educational system the

00:56:25.960 total disintegration of any

00:56:28.500 reality that would give

00:56:30.800 students an idea that they

00:56:33.540 were working with ideas that

00:56:35.080 were alive and important and

00:56:38.320 had to do with the

00:56:39.100 individual, had to do with

00:56:43.320 the individual.

00:56:44.000 In four years of college, and

00:56:47.380 this was way back in the

00:56:48.360 1950s, going up to 1960, I

00:56:53.440 don't think that I really

00:56:54.800 ever heard any professor or

00:56:56.780 teacher bring up the

00:56:58.660 individual in any serious

00:57:00.080 context.

00:57:01.060 Yeah, I can't think of one

00:57:02.360 either.

00:57:03.520 Yeah.

00:57:04.300 Okay, when did you go to

00:57:05.500 school?

00:57:06.980 Well, I'm 34, but I went to

00:57:09.560 college, actually minored in

00:57:10.820 philosophy, and I found that it

00:57:12.000 was very, very just skinned

00:57:13.920 deep.

00:57:14.380 We didn't really, we didn't

00:57:15.240 really go there, you know?

00:57:17.440 Yeah.

00:57:17.900 This is very topical.

00:57:19.960 So it's just continued and

00:57:22.100 gotten worse.

00:57:23.040 Oh, yeah.

00:57:23.280 And that's all intentional.

00:57:24.660 I mean, as you pointed out

00:57:26.380 with Dewey and there were

00:57:27.460 other people as well, the

00:57:29.880 Carnegie Foundation, it's

00:57:31.960 right up there in the

00:57:32.780 Rockefeller Foundation, they

00:57:35.180 all decided that we had to

00:57:36.600 have a planned society and

00:57:37.880 that the individual was out.

00:57:39.640 Right.

00:57:40.120 You know, it's like, you're

00:57:41.000 out, baby.

00:57:41.620 You have no more status.

00:57:44.380 That's it.

00:57:45.920 Meanwhile, we, you know, the

00:57:49.640 individuals who run these

00:57:51.060 foundations, oh, yeah, we're

00:57:53.320 going to be individuals, but

00:57:54.540 all we care about is controlling

00:57:56.000 everybody else and painting the

00:57:58.140 picture that collectivism is a

00:58:00.400 wonderful thing.

00:58:03.080 And that's our strategy.

00:58:04.600 And we'll do whatever it takes

00:58:07.540 to enforce it.

00:58:09.480 But we have to get people to

00:58:11.000 believe in it, to buy it, because

00:58:12.620 we, we're not ready to just hold

00:58:14.840 down the whole country at the

00:58:16.240 point of a gun.

00:58:18.100 Not a country like the U.S.

00:58:20.140 We don't want to go that far.

00:58:22.900 Because we know that that's going

00:58:24.400 to incite massive rebellion.

00:58:26.180 What we want to do is make it a

00:58:29.200 soft, gradual, creeping acceptance

00:58:33.120 so that people can't think any

00:58:35.780 other way.

00:58:36.760 I can think of two, two recent

00:58:38.300 examples where this is creeping

00:58:39.620 in.

00:58:39.940 Maybe it's the Fabian Society

00:58:41.900 style.

00:58:42.920 There's a college professor in

00:58:45.200 Seattle who was recently elected

00:58:46.860 and she is an open socialist and

00:58:49.400 she was elected into the city

00:58:50.920 council and she's advocating a

00:58:53.200 straight takeover of companies.

00:58:55.000 I mean, that is just straight up

00:58:56.260 communism.

00:58:57.540 And then we have Russell Brand

00:58:58.760 who's promoting his new age

00:59:00.040 socialist egalitarian system,

00:59:01.940 which everyone got all excited

00:59:03.380 about.

00:59:03.820 Don't ask me why.

00:59:06.340 Yeah.

00:59:07.380 I think because

00:59:08.640 in either tone, manner or direct

00:59:13.560 statement, he somehow connected

00:59:15.280 that with freedom.

00:59:17.320 And this is something else I think

00:59:19.200 that's really, you know, a mind

00:59:20.740 control issue here.

00:59:23.380 Because, you know, as Orr

00:59:24.940 well obviously pointed out in

00:59:26.880 1984, you twist the meaning of

00:59:29.480 words.

00:59:30.000 You give them new senses of what

00:59:33.720 they are and what they imply and

00:59:35.420 what they connect to and so forth.

00:59:36.860 And after a while, it's like hitting

00:59:38.940 somebody over the head and driving

00:59:40.320 them from pillar to post.

00:59:41.820 They don't know which way is up.

00:59:43.940 So in the same breath, you can say

00:59:45.720 freedom and you can say socialism and

00:59:49.300 you can say egalitarianism and people

00:59:52.520 will buy it as if they all go

00:59:54.620 together.

00:59:57.040 Yeah, that sounds great.

00:59:58.460 Freedom.

00:59:58.960 Yeah.

00:59:59.720 Okay.

01:00:00.180 Freedom and and socialism and

01:00:02.660 everybody's equal.

01:00:03.840 And it's all one.

01:00:05.240 It's all in one pot.

01:00:07.760 Fantastic.

01:00:08.200 You know, except when you start to

01:00:10.260 take it apart and say, well, what do

01:00:12.300 you mean by freedom in this

01:00:13.520 context?

01:00:15.160 You find out there isn't any.

01:00:17.040 You know, yeah, you're free to be a

01:00:19.820 ward of the state.

01:00:21.140 Yeah.

01:00:21.900 And if you don't like that, then you're

01:00:24.680 exiled out into the darkness.

01:00:27.740 And you're not part of society anymore.

01:00:29.840 And now you're considered to be a

01:00:32.600 criminal.

01:00:36.080 I think the anniversary of JFK's

01:00:39.220 murder is, you know, also an occasion

01:00:41.000 to look at this because it was the

01:00:45.320 first example in my lifetime that I was

01:00:48.560 aware of where the individual was

01:00:51.420 portrayed as the lone criminal, the

01:00:57.000 insane outsider who was, you know, bent

01:01:01.900 on destruction at the highest possible

01:01:03.800 level.

01:01:05.060 And in the wake of that, it was, you

01:01:09.120 know, the safety and security of the

01:01:10.740 group.

01:01:13.340 That the nation, in order to be held

01:01:15.180 together, somehow had to make sure that

01:01:17.360 this did not happen again.

01:01:19.260 It was an issue of national security and

01:01:21.840 so forth and so on.

01:01:23.480 And that cover story, you know, completely

01:01:26.720 obscured all the underground investigations

01:01:30.220 that were going on that started about

01:01:32.160 five minutes after Kennedy was shot by

01:01:34.700 people who just saw through the whole

01:01:36.460 insane scenario and realized that this

01:01:38.740 had nothing to do with the truth.

01:01:40.860 But it was used as a way of

01:01:43.520 marginalizing the individual.

01:01:46.620 See, this is what the individual would do

01:01:49.220 if left to his own devices.

01:01:52.540 And this became, you know, a marching

01:01:55.220 song more and more in later generations.

01:02:00.600 This is what the individual would do.

01:02:05.020 And it really sank the country in a

01:02:09.140 complete doldrum, eventually.

01:02:11.540 And led to these other, you know, mass

01:02:17.920 shootings and killings where the killer

01:02:19.800 becomes a celebrity and all of this kind

01:02:22.980 of thing.

01:02:23.400 Well, yeah, this is another example of

01:02:25.880 individualism.

01:02:27.580 This is what an individual will do if he's

01:02:30.480 not part of the group.

01:02:32.860 Part of the group.

01:02:33.960 And this is what we have to fight.

01:02:38.520 Yeah.

01:02:38.860 You know, and it never ends.

01:02:41.400 I mean, I was in nursery school.

01:02:46.360 Nineteen, I'm going to say, forty three

01:02:50.180 in New York.

01:02:52.940 I was totally clueless.

01:02:54.620 I mean, I was just, you know.

01:02:56.080 I don't even know how to describe what I

01:02:59.320 was.

01:03:00.260 I was like somebody from Mars who had

01:03:02.320 suddenly been parachuted down to Earth

01:03:05.320 when I went into this classroom.

01:03:08.440 And the teacher said something to me and I

01:03:10.860 said, OK.

01:03:12.420 And she said, no, no, no, no, no.

01:03:14.220 We don't say OK.

01:03:15.780 We say all right.

01:03:19.580 And I suddenly discovered they had all

01:03:21.720 these rules for what you could say and

01:03:24.260 didn't say or couldn't say and that

01:03:26.840 everything in this little nursery school

01:03:28.920 was about behavior and part of the

01:03:32.400 group.

01:03:34.100 And you got little awards.

01:03:36.220 I mean, it was 1943.

01:03:38.320 You got little awards for behaving.

01:03:43.660 You know, oh, he was good today and

01:03:45.320 whatever.

01:03:45.900 And let's all applaud this.

01:03:47.620 And, you know, the most polite student.

01:03:51.140 And all of this was held up because you

01:03:53.620 were part of the group.

01:03:56.360 I mean, this is like sheer insanity.

01:03:58.680 Yeah, of course it is.

01:04:03.580 Yeah.

01:04:04.100 What people don't seem to get, and you've

01:04:05.880 talked about this, too, is that

01:04:06.760 collectivism, it's not about a mass

01:04:08.540 outpouring of sharer and carer.

01:04:10.640 I mean, it's coming down from the top of

01:04:12.200 the ladder from an elite group that wants

01:04:14.240 to control everything.

01:04:15.940 But all of a sudden, all these

01:04:17.180 collectivists, communists, socialists,

01:04:19.120 they seem to be OK with an elite ruling

01:04:21.540 group in this case.

01:04:23.640 Yeah.

01:04:24.120 In no other case are they OK.

01:04:25.880 Yeah.

01:04:26.660 The capitalists, you know, are the fiends,

01:04:29.500 the killers, the despoilers of humanity,

01:04:33.100 et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

01:04:34.300 But, you know, we'll let them in.

01:04:37.640 You know, the same guys.

01:04:39.600 We'll let them in at the top to run

01:04:42.280 things as long as everything else is

01:04:45.380 egalitarian.

01:04:45.540 Egalitarian, and I'm sure it's all

01:04:47.420 going to work out just fine.

01:04:49.380 You know, that's where this

01:04:51.460 this thing becomes complete madness,

01:04:55.900 you know, complete insanity.

01:04:58.840 It's like you can only take the group

01:05:00.820 so far.

01:05:02.660 You know, there are certain causes

01:05:05.060 and issues and so forth where

01:05:07.420 organizing can really do you some good.

01:05:09.580 Yeah, of course.

01:05:10.580 I've been involved in some of these

01:05:12.320 over the years, but there's a limit

01:05:16.120 to how far they can operate and work.

01:05:18.820 And as an example, I would take the

01:05:20.500 union movement in America.

01:05:23.240 Because I recall 1960 going back that

01:05:26.700 far, I had a friend who worked at a

01:05:29.160 radio station in New York and he was

01:05:32.700 a real innovator and he was working

01:05:36.880 with one of the radio hosts and they

01:05:38.360 decided they were going to put on

01:05:39.740 little theatrical productions because

01:05:42.320 this radio station was now going to

01:05:44.080 do some television.

01:05:45.680 And they were going to do comic

01:05:47.020 sketches.

01:05:49.520 Well, that meant that they had to put

01:05:51.380 up a set and they had to do this and

01:05:53.020 do that and all of a sudden it was the

01:05:54.600 union guys that had to be involved

01:05:56.900 with this little project.

01:05:58.980 And so the costs ballooned out of

01:06:01.760 sight.

01:06:02.880 And he would come home from work with

01:06:04.660 his blood boiling saying, these guys

01:06:07.540 just sit around.

01:06:08.440 They don't do anything.

01:06:09.740 And they expect to collect their

01:06:11.880 paycheck.

01:06:12.540 And if you don't use them, then the

01:06:15.580 entire union will strike against the

01:06:17.420 station and we'll go out of business.

01:06:20.200 And this would happen day after day

01:06:22.060 after day after day.

01:06:23.480 You know, it's like I'm part of a

01:06:25.820 collective and you can't intimidate me

01:06:29.920 because my group is all powerful.

01:06:32.720 Yeah.

01:06:33.180 That's where it always goes.

01:06:34.700 And they completely disrespect the boss

01:06:37.620 or the inventor or someone who owns the

01:06:40.480 company.

01:06:40.820 They try and put themselves on the same

01:06:42.520 level all the time and disrespect that

01:06:44.280 person.

01:06:44.840 And they want to they want to take over

01:06:46.420 their company.

01:06:47.080 It's amazing.

01:06:48.100 You know, the power of the workers.

01:06:49.560 You couldn't do this without us.

01:06:51.840 But you wouldn't even have the job if it

01:06:53.780 weren't for the guy who came up with the

01:06:55.360 idea.

01:06:55.940 Right.

01:06:57.640 You didn't build it.

01:07:00.080 No.

01:07:01.560 Which, you know, I was really recently

01:07:04.720 watching a video, Larkin Rose, and he

01:07:10.720 was saying, let me just give you an

01:07:11.880 example of government versus no

01:07:13.640 government.

01:07:15.280 He said, here I have it.

01:07:16.540 He was standing in the woods.

01:07:17.540 He said, I have this little gadget in my

01:07:19.040 pocket, took out a cell phone.

01:07:20.760 He said, with this, I can talk to anybody

01:07:24.540 anywhere in the world.

01:07:26.340 Just this little thing.

01:07:29.000 Now.

01:07:30.440 The government didn't make this thing.

01:07:34.140 Other people did.

01:07:35.660 And I bought it.

01:07:36.820 Now I can use it.

01:07:38.160 So now you're going to tell me that

01:07:40.560 government is absolutely essential

01:07:42.260 because unless we had government, we

01:07:43.860 wouldn't have any roads.

01:07:45.240 Yeah, it's ridiculous.

01:07:46.560 Right.

01:07:47.360 So he said, what's a road?

01:07:49.420 It's a flat place.

01:07:50.940 That's it.

01:07:51.800 It's a flat place.

01:07:53.120 It enables you to get from A to B

01:07:55.260 rather easily.

01:07:57.020 So you're going to tell me that I can

01:07:58.400 hold, you know, here I have this cell

01:08:00.380 phone.

01:08:00.640 They can do all these things.

01:08:01.560 But private individuals could never

01:08:03.780 build roads.

01:08:04.780 Only the government can build roads.

01:08:06.760 Right?

01:08:07.380 It's ridiculous.

01:08:07.680 As if these politicians were out there, you

01:08:10.820 know, hacking away at the dirt and laying

01:08:14.340 down, you know, asphalt and so forth.

01:08:16.640 And they provide a bad service where I live.

01:08:18.300 The roads are not good.

01:08:19.220 And they'll provide whatever service they want to

01:08:24.680 because it's not their money and it's not their

01:08:27.800 problem.

01:08:29.900 So people are completely brainwashed in this

01:08:34.360 respect.

01:08:34.820 They imagine that all sorts of things are necessary

01:08:39.280 because reality is being manufactured for them

01:08:45.280 so that it appears that collectivist solutions are the

01:08:51.100 only things that are going to work.

01:08:52.420 Or it appears that top-down control is the only thing

01:08:56.580 that's going to keep us safe or make things work.

01:09:00.560 And that's part and parcel of reality that's manufactured

01:09:03.580 for people.

01:09:05.600 And so they find themselves unable to wake up from that

01:09:10.660 manufactured reality.

01:09:12.520 They're literally hypnotized.

01:09:16.160 And one of my late associates from the 1980s and 90s,

01:09:21.980 Jack True, who is a brilliant hypnotherapist, would

01:09:26.520 illustrate to me in so many different ways in his work

01:09:29.220 with patients, how this was happening at the level of mind,

01:09:33.460 this trance at deeper levels of subconscious where there was

01:09:40.260 an acceptance of externally manufactured reality and how

01:09:46.200 you could unhook people from that.

01:09:48.600 But that you would encounter significant resistance because

01:09:55.580 there's such an overwhelming desire on the part of many people

01:09:59.480 to buy this manufactured reality and to go along with its principles.

01:10:06.300 And that it really is a form of hypnotism.

01:10:13.840 And that it affects untold numbers of people.

01:10:18.840 So this I found very inspiring and interviewed some of his patients

01:10:24.560 and talked to Jack a lot about various methods that he used with people.

01:10:29.160 Eventually he stopped doing hypnosis altogether because, as you said,

01:10:32.360 people were already coming in hypnotized when they first walked

01:10:35.360 into his office.

01:10:37.940 So the idea was, what at the level of mind is going on so that people

01:10:47.260 accept this collectivist reality that is being manufactured for them?

01:10:54.540 What is happening there?

01:10:56.080 What kind of hypnotism is this?

01:10:58.660 What's the trance?

01:11:00.800 And, of course, it's not the kind of trance where you see zombies

01:11:03.880 walking around the street primarily.

01:11:05.800 What you see are active people who are going here, there, doing this, that.

01:11:09.620 But at some core level, they are in a trance state.

01:11:15.500 And they do buy the collectivist myth.

01:11:20.200 Yeah.

01:11:21.540 It's submerged in there somehow.

01:11:24.160 It is in there.

01:11:25.160 Very much so in there, yeah.

01:11:29.840 Yeah, I like this quote from, I'm going to pull it out from your article,

01:11:32.900 The Rebel Against the Controlled World.

01:11:34.860 I said,

01:11:35.540 This is the way the world ends, not with a bang, not with a whimper,

01:11:38.680 but with a heavily armed, surveilled Disneyland.

01:11:41.740 Everyone takes the same rides and eats the same cotton candy.

01:11:44.820 In this cartoon cult reality, whoever declines and defects is re-educated.

01:11:50.600 Yeah.

01:11:51.220 It's so true, this new form of collectivism, socialism, communism,

01:11:54.480 whatever you want to say, it's going to have a different face to it.

01:11:57.160 And you're right, it is like a surveilled Disneyland.

01:11:59.760 Everyone's eating the cotton candy and has no idea that they're in prison.

01:12:02.840 Exactly.

01:12:05.160 That's the perfection of the idea, when nobody knows that they're living in a manufactured reality,

01:12:13.040 but they just accept the terms of it.

01:12:15.460 And, you know, there have been a few experiments that have been done to more or less show

01:12:28.180 that people will bend to peer pressure conformity and accept certain terms of reality that are just absurd.

01:12:39.320 You know, the famous Milgram experiments where volunteers were induced to deliver what they thought were electric shocks to people

01:12:48.540 who were sitting behind a partition, who were actually actors hired to scream and so forth because these people were giving the wrong answers to questions

01:13:00.620 or being non-responsive or whatever.

01:13:02.460 And how through an authority figure like the researcher, many of these volunteers in the experiment could be nudged into even giving higher levels of shocks

01:13:17.800 or what they thought were shocks accompanied by louder screams and so forth just because, just because that's reality,

01:13:26.360 just because, well, this researcher must know what's best and I'm just following along with what's going on, you know.

01:13:36.840 So, the Disneyland cartoon-esque aspect of this, I think, is highly significant because if you can entrain people to believe in that kind of reality,

01:13:51.600 then it all looks like fun at a sort of low level of fun, you know.

01:13:58.200 Cotton candy, hot dogs, you go on a ride, you walk around, you pay money, you do all these sorts of, you know, crazy little things.

01:14:09.280 Only, it's not just on a Sunday afternoon, it's like every day, all day, you know.

01:14:15.260 And so, people look at you and say, well, what's the problem?

01:14:21.140 And if you try to say, well, don't you see, no, I don't, I don't know what you're talking about.

01:14:28.580 Don't know what you're talking about.

01:14:32.400 Jeez.

01:14:33.380 So, where are we heading, John?

01:14:35.180 Well, we're heading in that direction, but at the same time, there is a kind of counter-revolution that's taking place,

01:14:42.820 and I think largely because of the Internet, that people are breaking out.

01:14:52.300 And they may start at the level of, you know, I've been cheated.

01:14:58.020 The system has deluded me into thinking X, Y, Z.

01:15:05.180 And there are criminals out there who are pretending that they are the government,

01:15:11.480 or pretending they are huge toxic corporations, or whatever.

01:15:17.020 And then, the next step is to see how they've been actually, you know, buying and drinking the Kool-Aid themselves.

01:15:28.880 And sacrificing their own unique individuality on the altar of whatever it is, you know, having a job, conforming, fitting in,

01:15:45.900 living a life according to the plan of their family, on whatever level it is that they begin to see,

01:15:53.180 wait a minute, you know, there's more to this.

01:15:56.480 And I personally see more people waking up to that.

01:16:01.180 That they are realizing that they need to give voice to their own freedom and to do something with it.

01:16:08.360 That means something to them individually, not to the group.

01:16:14.820 So, I see, you know, more than a glint of hope there.

01:16:19.980 But I also see hope in the fact that when you look at the sheer amount of propaganda,

01:16:28.980 information control, mind control of one kind or another that's been unleashed upon the populace since the dawn of time on this planet,

01:16:38.560 the sheer tonnage of it, that to me is a major clue.

01:16:42.980 So, it tells you that there is something within the individual that takes a tremendous amount of brainwashing

01:16:50.040 to get them to, A, conform and to stay, B, in the realm of conformity and buying into manufactured reality.

01:16:59.340 If it was just a little flip of the hand and this and that, and, you know,

01:17:04.500 this would have been a total slave planet a long time ago.

01:17:07.620 So, there is something within individuals that is a tremendous resistance at the same time that they buy into manufactured reality.

01:17:17.860 There is this other element of self which is diametrically opposed to it.

01:17:25.340 And that's a lot harder to kill off.

01:17:28.380 A lot harder.

01:17:29.580 I agree. It's the spark of life.

01:17:31.780 And that's ultimately, I think, what they're after.

01:17:34.180 They want to turn that light off.

01:17:36.320 Exactly.

01:17:38.380 They want to turn that light off.

01:17:41.140 And they do it in a number of ways.

01:17:44.580 You know, another thing that has come down the pipeline to us that is now universally accepted among the elites at different levels,

01:17:55.600 just like the planned society is universally accepted by them,

01:17:59.980 is the conditioned reflex human being as a biological machine.

01:18:05.220 That's a premise they just don't even think about anymore.

01:18:10.980 That's it.

01:18:11.760 What else would you think a human being is?

01:18:15.060 And because we've seen time and time again, they would say historically how dangerous these wild creatures can be if left to their own devices,

01:18:23.760 then naturally we have to find better ways of controlling them.

01:18:27.260 And this is another point of extreme resistance within the individual when he becomes aware that this is what's happening.

01:18:36.420 That there is this kind of a chain of one-conditioned reflex-conditioned human being relating to another, to another, to another, to another,

01:18:49.340 all within the sphere of pure Pavlovian response.

01:18:55.660 And that he, some part of him, is standing outside that and isn't buying it.

01:19:01.560 That's another thing where people can begin to see what their own freedom is really like.

01:19:08.880 Because freedom is enormous.

01:19:11.300 That spark of life is really a huge volcano within each individual.

01:19:17.340 Not only as a space, you might say, in which action can be taken, but as a realm of possibility of what you can do in your own life.

01:19:32.980 And this is one reason why I emphasize so strongly in my work the power of imagination and creative power.

01:19:42.860 Because that's really where the spark goes to, that spark of life ignites great imagination of futures, possibilities,

01:20:00.940 unheard of things that do not yet exist, and the creative power to make them happen in the world.

01:20:08.920 And the individual can do this because the individual wants to do this primarily.

01:20:18.440 Not primarily because the individual wants to be a slave to sacrifice himself to the benefit, quote, benefit of others,

01:20:28.440 but because he wants to do whatever, bring about that future that he sees.

01:20:34.960 And then the spillover effects have beneficial values for everybody else.

01:20:46.020 And so yes, they want to exterminate that spark, and they want to exterminate the possibility that it becomes a conflagration and a great fire.

01:20:55.140 But where it becomes a great fire is within the individual, if he or she would see it that way.

01:21:03.040 Nobody ever said in any of the founding documents of the American Republic that freedom was,

01:21:12.140 individual freedom was severely limited.

01:21:16.300 What they said was that the power to infringe upon freedom was severely limited.

01:21:24.920 And that is something that remains, you know, untaught in schools.

01:21:30.820 But that's a key factor.

01:21:33.700 Freedom has no limit.

01:21:35.420 The only limit it has is that you don't impose or impinge upon the freedom of anybody else.

01:21:45.580 Other than that, the sky is completely open.

01:21:50.880 And this is the kind of renaissance that, you know, that I'm teaching and promoting.

01:21:57.820 And I see individuals waking up to it.

01:22:02.920 I get lots of emails from people indicating in one way or another that, you know, this is happening with them.

01:22:09.800 Because they finally realized, et cetera, et cetera, you know, that they were living in a manufactured reality.

01:22:16.400 And they want out, and they're not going to accept it anymore.

01:22:20.480 This is what the future of the planet depends on.

01:22:23.640 I'm glad to hear that.

01:22:25.080 John, thanks again for your time this evening.

01:22:27.100 It's always inspiring and a pleasure to hear you speak.

01:22:30.780 Thank you so much.

01:22:31.840 I really appreciate it.

01:22:32.820 I've really enjoyed it, as always.

01:22:35.140 It's great to know that you guys are there because I know what you stand for and that you are, you know, uncompromising to the hilt.

01:22:46.280 And that's not an easy thing to find.

01:22:48.920 Everyone, please check out John's website, snowmorefakenews.com and johnrappaport.wordpress.com.

01:22:54.680 So, listeners, what is more important?

01:22:56.640 The individual or the group?

01:22:58.860 If you answer the individual, congratulations.

01:23:01.040 You are a true rebel, self-reliant and imaginative.

01:23:04.680 You will go far and wide and succeed in life against all odds.

01:23:07.980 You are a creator, a bold force of nature, unafraid and truly awake.

01:23:11.760 Thanks for listening.

01:23:13.160 Thanks for listening.

01:23:13.200 S Wolf.

01:23:13.660 Everything you do.

01:23:15.020 Everybody you do.

01:23:16.500 Anything you do.

01:23:18.180 Everything you do.

01:23:20.960 Everywhere you do.

01:23:22.240 Anything you do.

01:23:23.780 Anything you do.

01:23:23.960 Anything you do.

01:23:25.140 Everybody you do.

01:23:26.780 Everything you do.

01:23:28.100 Все.

01:23:29.540 Anything you do.

01:23:30.680 Everything you do.

01:23:32.440 Everything you do.

01:23:34.160 Everything you do.

01:23:36.600 Everything you do.

01:23:37.360 Thank you.

01:24:07.360 Thank you.

01:24:37.360 Thank you.

01:25:07.360 Thank you.

01:25:37.360 Thank you.

01:26:07.360 Thank you.

01:26:37.360 Thank you.

01:27:07.360 Ascend, slowly, slowly, breathe.

01:27:17.360 Ascend, slowly.

Radio 3Fourteen - November 20, 2013

The Individual vs. The Planned State

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