Radio 3Fourteen - Toxic Clothing_ Synthetic vs. Natural Fibers

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.

00:01:00.000 A piece of plastic drenched in petroleum, formaldehyde, more chemicals, and heavy metals, then sprayed with flame retardants. 0.97

00:01:06.980 It's that ridiculous.

00:01:08.620 Co-authors Dr. Brian Clement and Dr. Anna Maria Clement are co-directors of the internationally known Hippocrates Health Institute in West Palm Beach, Florida. 0.76

00:01:18.260 These two physicians created wellness and disease prevention programs, followed by more than 300,000 people who have spent a week or more at the Institute.

00:01:25.820 They've authored a dozen books on natural health antidotes to illness and disease.

00:01:30.220 We're going to discuss their book, Killer Clothes.

00:01:33.800 Welcome, Brian and Anna Maria.

00:01:35.360 Thanks for coming on the program today.

00:01:37.600 Thanks for having us.

00:01:38.820 Thank you so much.

00:01:40.040 Well, before you tell us what led you both to writing the book, Killer Clothes, I wanted to tell you that I've really been searching for someone to come speak on this issue.

00:01:46.840 And there may be a few people out there, but it's pretty quiet on the subject of toxic clothing.

00:01:52.760 And I'd say probably because the fashion industry generates over $7 trillion globally every year, and there are many industrial lobbyists involved, right?

00:02:02.020 Oh, you're not kidding.

00:02:03.240 It's one of the hotbed political issues that nobody touches.

00:02:07.180 And the money is obscene, and the cruelty, the disease, the problems that stem out of this are endless.

00:02:17.340 I mean, we read extensively in Killer Clothes about this, but let me assure you, I could write volumes on the issue.

00:02:26.460 Wow.

00:02:27.360 Well, how about we begin with learning a little bit about both of your background?

00:02:31.660 Well, we'll start with Dr. Anna Maria. 0.97

00:02:33.560 Well, I'm from Sweden, and I ran a clinic outside Stockholm called Brando, and it was amazing.

00:02:44.560 I was vegan at 15 and got into this lifestyle, and, you know, it just made so much sense to wear natural fibers.

00:02:53.460 I remember wearing polyester fiber as a kid and hating it, and especially in the summer when you get hot and you're sweating

00:03:01.840 and you can't breathe through those materials, and how much wonderful, it was so much better to wear natural fibers.

00:03:11.280 And I've been studying, you know, organic cotton in a long time, especially since we've had kids.

00:03:20.540 We have four kids, and, you know, from diapers, natural fiber diapers, and their clothes, organic cotton.

00:03:30.040 It's just gone on.

00:03:32.060 In our work, because, you know, I've worked within this field for 40 years, and at the Institute since 1983, I came over from Sweden.

00:03:40.360 And, you know, just to find what people go through with the toxicity in clothes.

00:03:49.160 We have a research in the book and how they detoxed those chemicals.

00:03:54.960 We have a test where kids are sleeping in formaldehyde pajamas.

00:04:00.280 Please don't ever put your kids in formaldehyde pajamas, fire retardant. 1.00

00:04:06.080 And, anyway, in the morning, they test their urine, and the fire retardants are in the urine the next morning. 0.94

00:04:12.220 Oh, geez.

00:04:13.600 Yeah.

00:04:14.580 So Anna Maria and I became acutely interested in this because, like Anna Maria, I've been doing this for 41 years,

00:04:23.280 and we've directed Hippocrates Institute since 1980.

00:04:29.240 And when you look at what we see with sick people, a very high percentage of the people who are ill,

00:04:38.020 and particularly women with breast cancer, men with testicle cancer, is coming directly from the use of man-made fibers.

00:04:46.180 And when we started to look at this and discuss it decades ago, there was no empirical evidence that we could find.

00:04:54.980 And then slowly but surely, we started to accrue that research.

00:04:59.440 And it's far and few between, but we were stunned that every time there was some of this done,

00:05:06.660 that it mimicked the exact results that the last study did.

00:05:10.620 As one small example, when women wear man-made fiber bras, which are polyesters, nylons, all made out of oil, by the way.

00:05:21.260 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:22.280 Same as in your car.

00:05:23.780 They have a six-time greater chance of breast cancer. 0.62

00:05:27.100 And let me repeat this for the listeners.

00:05:29.240 I'm not saying 6%.

00:05:30.660 I'm saying six times.

00:05:32.480 So if you're fancying wearing man-made fiber bras one time, two times, three times, four times, five times,

00:05:41.020 six times greater chance you're going to have breast cancer. 1.00

00:05:43.860 Remove the bras. 0.99

00:05:45.460 Wear natural fiber bras. 0.96

00:05:48.120 Testicle cancer.

00:05:50.020 Back in the 70s, for the first time, we got men to start wearing panty-like undergarments. 0.82

00:05:58.360 And when that became fashionable, and still is in fashion for many men, our testicles started to heat up.

00:06:06.660 And they're pushed back up into our bodies.

00:06:09.960 The load of testicle cancer dramatically rises when you're wearing this type of a garment.

00:06:16.740 Rather than through history, both the breasts were moving freely and the lymphatic glands moving, 0.96

00:06:23.260 as well as the penis, the genitalia for men. 0.96

00:06:26.680 And you didn't have this kind of constraint where it was preventing natural blood flow, which caused cancer.

00:06:35.580 And yet we're told a lot of myths, I know women are, for the reasons why you should wear a bra. 1.00

00:06:41.680 Yeah.

00:06:42.960 And the underwire, if you have an underwire, forget it.

00:06:46.040 It restricts the tissue, and it's really a danger, a big danger.

00:06:51.020 So the big bosom woman actually has an eight to nine times greater chance with polyester underwires or nylon underwires. 1.00

00:07:00.240 This is obscene.

00:07:01.580 You know, it's obscene.

00:07:02.480 And to go back to address what you did, and I won't name names,

00:07:05.740 but one of the most famous designers in the world, who in other areas of her life, she lives impeccably well,

00:07:12.740 I went to see her, and I said, we have finished this book, and we're willing to have you be a co-author,

00:07:20.040 but that would mean you'd have to radically change your view on garments and how you make garments.

00:07:25.640 And she declined.

00:07:26.500 And, you know, it just showed me, I thought, we have a slight chance, the door is cracked open here,

00:07:33.800 that we'll have a big name and really radically be able to change the industry with that kind of a person.

00:07:38.900 But sadly, money became more important than human health and life, I guess.

00:07:42.840 Oh, yeah.

00:07:43.260 And it's amazing because these people in the fashion industry, they have their galas and fundraising, you know,

00:07:50.040 and they talk about beauty, and they talk about global warming, but yet they're one of the biggest top polluters on the planet.

00:07:57.580 No question.

00:07:58.100 You got it.

00:07:58.780 No question.

00:07:59.940 And, I mean, this goes on and on.

00:08:01.520 It's not only, let's broaden this. 0.98

00:08:03.640 It's not only the garment that you're wearing, if you're foolish, but can you imagine the slave labor conditions? 0.93

00:08:09.740 And that's not an overstatement that exists in these countries so that people in Europe and North America can wear inexpensive clothing. 0.97

00:08:18.180 I mean, it is outrageous.

00:08:21.120 When we talk about this in Killer Clothes, we show you the illnesses that come from these people working in factories under those conditions

00:08:31.460 and how certain communities that we looked at and reviewed have eight and nine times major diseases that communities that do not,

00:08:41.540 in those natural settings, do not work in the garment industry.

00:08:45.100 Well, for people that don't know, maybe we should clarify what synthetic clothing is.

00:08:51.040 Okay, well, it's a pretty new phenomena.

00:08:53.780 You know, up until the early part of the 20th century, everything was cotton or linen or wool or silk.

00:09:04.280 And then the petrochemical industry had just come out of the Second World War and had made a crazy amount of money in the Second World War

00:09:14.420 and were not willing to surrender that outrageous amount of profits.

00:09:18.780 So they started to create other industries, the petrochemical industry.

00:09:22.640 And one was pesticides, fungicides, and herbicides, a sidebar.

00:09:28.040 Twenty-five percent of pesticides in the world are used in growing cotton.

00:09:33.020 And they created that.

00:09:34.840 But it wasn't enough for them.

00:09:36.020 They said, okay, let's create man-made fibers. 0.99

00:09:39.860 And so that's part of the petrochemical industry.

00:09:41.980 As Anna Maria said, especially in our youth back in the 70s, if you'd ever gone into a discotheque where everyone wore these polyester dresses, 0.99

00:09:51.680 I mean, it smelled like, you know, it smelled like you were in a urinal.

00:09:55.580 Their skin can't breathe at all. 1.00

00:09:57.620 They're sweating in there.

00:09:58.440 No.

00:09:58.680 So years and years ago, some of the first things I read on this is 30 years ago,

00:10:04.480 was actually talking about how when they tested these polyesters, nylons, et cetera,

00:10:11.620 they actually found that they outgas and fume even 10 years later, a decade later, after being washed a thousand times.

00:10:21.420 So it's not that they get better.

00:10:23.120 They're plastic.

00:10:24.260 They're plastic clothing.

00:10:25.220 So they don't allow the body to breathe.

00:10:29.380 They prevent it.

00:10:30.800 They also put these deadly chemicals into your body that mimic estrogens.

00:10:36.260 And the one thing no human needs on the planet now is more estrogens.

00:10:39.540 That's where the best majority of cancers are coming from.

00:10:42.200 Yeah, we already have enough gender-bending chemicals in all our grooming products. 1.00

00:10:45.340 We don't need it in our clothes, too.

00:10:47.380 You got it.

00:10:47.940 And so this is really, you know, a very, very large contribution to human psychological and physiological problems today.

00:10:57.340 And there is no doubt, if you read the book, Killer Clothes, that you have to immediately, if you're any kind of responsible person who's not on a suicide mission, to start with your undergarments.

00:11:09.500 And then slowly but surely, even if you don't have money, weed out all of the man-made fibers.

00:11:20.160 And when you're buying natural fibers, watch out.

00:11:23.740 As I was finishing this book, a friend of mine called and said, look, would you like to send me to a big conference that's being held at Berkeley in the University of California out in that area, Berkeley, California, near San Francisco?

00:11:40.460 And they said, there's a major conference from scientists and doctors around the world against fire retardants and formaldehydes. 0.99

00:11:49.100 And as much as I knew, I didn't realize the gross misuse of formaldehydes.

00:11:56.280 And after he came back, he called me with a report and sent me 20 pages and said, listen, he said, go into your closet, Mr. Natural, and see how many of your shirts say you do not need ironing.

00:12:10.460 And five of my shirts, three of my favorites, happened to have that.

00:12:14.860 He said, burn them in the backyard and put a mask on.

00:12:17.240 He said, that's formaldehyde.

00:12:19.640 Now, some of you may know this or are listening.

00:12:22.740 Formaldehyde is how we preserve animals and human parts.

00:12:27.080 They don't die.

00:12:28.180 Can you imagine what that does to kill brain cells, neurons in the brain, the neurological system?

00:12:33.300 I mean, it's just outrageous.

00:12:34.620 And nobody watches this.

00:12:36.700 Nobody monitors it.

00:12:38.220 Nobody seems to care about it.

00:12:39.720 And I know people eating organic diets, exercising, wonderful attitudes, and they're ending up with diseases because of what we're talking about.

00:12:46.780 Oh, yeah.

00:12:47.120 And, yeah, here's the thing.

00:12:47.960 You buy these clothes, whether it's synthetic and natural fiber, and they spray them, like you're saying, with these wrinkle-free finishes, waterproof, moth, flame retardant.

00:12:55.220 I mean, come on, people. 0.92

00:12:57.180 This is just ridiculous. 0.78

00:12:58.800 It amazes me how we went from lovely natural fabrics like silk and linen to spandex.

00:13:05.580 And then did you read in the book where we talk about the future clothing?

00:13:11.540 Oh, yeah.

00:13:12.000 Yeah, I wanted to get into that with you later.

00:13:14.760 But I wanted to also clarify, too, for people, what are some of the synthetic fabrics?

00:13:19.640 We have nylon, polyester, acrylic.

00:13:24.200 Ramy, they actually treat.

00:13:26.260 Most of the rayons are heavily treated.

00:13:30.500 As we pointed out, even 100% natural cotton in most cases are treated.

00:13:36.360 But one of the ways that you can do that, when I buy suits, for women, if you look, there's a lot of really good designers now that are making clothing and organic offerings. 0.80

00:13:48.280 Where men, and I have to wear suits in my work on a daily basis, we don't have that option.

00:13:55.300 So we talk about how you can take a suit, get the least expensive vinegar, get four-liter or gallon bottles of this, put it in your bathing, your bathtub, put very, very hot water, and soak that garment in there,

00:14:11.400 in the vinegar, where you put one or two gallons or about four liters in there, and you let it soak overnight, you let it drip dry.

00:14:19.300 Now, if you're in many places in the world listening to me today, you have organic dry cleaners.

00:14:25.480 As a matter of fact, here at the Hippocrates Institute, we offer that to our guests, and locally, that's the only way we clean our clothes.

00:14:33.000 So they have non-toxic, made out of soy, dry cleaning.

00:14:36.420 Then you take that, and you dry clean it, and you're going to get most, if not all, of the chemicals off these type of clothing.

00:14:44.260 Now, you're not going to do that with a polyester or a nylon or a viscue or something that's made out of oil.

00:14:50.620 It's never going to change it.

00:14:52.240 As a matter of fact, it may actually be worse, that if you did that, it would open up, and more fumes would come out of it.

00:14:58.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:59.520 I've been working on a clothing line, by the way.

00:15:01.540 It's coming out this winter, and it's all natural fibers and also organic when possible.

00:15:05.080 And let me tell you, I'm dealing with some big manufacturers, and the general attitude when you call and ask about their dye process, the chemicals, when you really start to inquire, you start to get a different person that comes out.

00:15:17.820 And kind of, they're a little aggressive about it.

00:15:21.020 They're a little defensive about it.

00:15:22.340 And they almost look down on you when you say, I want something that's truly organic and natural.

00:15:28.100 Absolutely.

00:15:28.580 In society, the normal people are considered abnormal, and the abnormal people are considered normal.

00:15:37.080 That's right.

00:15:38.260 And it's all about money at the end of the day.

00:15:41.460 Yeah, and we've been working, you know, because so many women come here with breast cancer, it's been really close to our heart.

00:15:48.180 And I've been working for the last decade on organic cotton broth, and they will be coming here.

00:15:54.180 They will actually, we'll have them in our store by next year.

00:15:57.560 Great.

00:15:58.140 That's great.

00:15:59.280 And, you know, just the extra, you know, the Marine Corps cannot wear any of the fire retardant clothes, the flame retardant clothes.

00:16:11.880 They're actually forbidden.

00:16:13.200 Did you hear about that?

00:16:14.460 Yeah, I read, actually, a chapter in your book where you talk about some of this.

00:16:17.740 It just melts on their bodies.

00:16:19.440 Yeah.

00:16:20.460 Here in the United States, the toughest of our armed services, or army, are called the Marines.

00:16:28.420 Americans know this, but other listeners may not.

00:16:31.600 When they were in Iraq and wearing man-made fibers, polyesters, when it got really hot at 110, 120 degrees in the summertime,

00:16:41.300 they would actually implode.

00:16:44.100 It would go into flames.

00:16:45.760 So they outlawed.

00:16:47.340 Now they made a new rule for the Marine Corps.

00:16:49.180 They have to wear natural fiber clothing in those environments.

00:16:52.960 It's that scary, and people don't realize it.

00:16:55.000 Now, tell us about some of the chemical processes involved in making synthetic fiber fabrics.

00:17:01.260 You go into the four stages of fabric production in your book.

00:17:05.380 Well, the first one is that they actually have to use deadly chemicals to bond the petrochemicals.

00:17:13.000 So when you picture this, and I want you to really understand what I'm talking about,

00:17:17.480 to make this simple rather than give you a lot of large words.

00:17:22.000 You have oil.

00:17:23.320 If you've ever seen oil, open up a can of automobile oil, look at it.

00:17:28.620 They actually have chemicals that bond that to make it go into strands.

00:17:33.920 And part of those chemicals are known in carcinogens in 100% of the cases.

00:17:38.720 Next to that, depending upon what they're making, which type of man-made fiber they're making,

00:17:45.720 they've got to make that have elasticity.

00:17:48.140 That adds a whole other dimension of deadly chemicals into it,

00:17:52.880 all of which, 100% of which, are cancer-causing and neuron-disrupting.

00:17:58.780 So a lot of these so-called confusion, attention deficit disorders, dyslexias,

00:18:06.660 even depressions, are not truly those disorders.

00:18:11.380 What they are is reactive to the chemicals that are creating elasticity

00:18:17.540 and also bonding it into fiber.

00:18:22.380 Then you have a process where they've got to color it,

00:18:26.380 and when they color it, that's one of the most deadly.

00:18:30.200 Now, in the old days, when our grandparents and great-grandparents,

00:18:33.940 in some of my case, my parents were young, they colored it with things like beets,

00:18:39.140 and so they were all natural fiber.

00:18:40.960 Exactly.

00:18:41.400 Now, deadly dyes.

00:18:43.720 They use known disease-causing dyes that are outlawed, by the way,

00:18:48.580 in every other area but not clothing.

00:18:50.560 The most intimate thing you have.

00:18:52.760 What's more intimate than clothing other than swallowing something?

00:18:56.200 Yeah.

00:18:57.640 Exactly.

00:18:58.200 Well, the Ecologist magazine found that 8,000 chemicals are employed

00:19:05.380 to transform raw materials into clothes,

00:19:08.520 a process that involves bleaching, dyeing, scorching, sizing,

00:19:13.040 and finishing the fabrics.

00:19:15.000 Imagine.

00:19:15.520 So what did they do in the old days when they made these beautiful dresses and suits? 0.54

00:19:20.420 Did they go through all these chemical processes?

00:19:22.360 I mean, this wasn't even around yet.

00:19:23.720 Wow.

00:19:24.200 Never.

00:19:24.940 Remember, the oil industry is about 100 and some years old.

00:19:29.580 There was no such thing as that.

00:19:31.400 So they were taking their manual weaving devices, and it was spindles,

00:19:40.240 and they would actually get the cotton or get the linen,

00:19:43.800 and they would actually pull it together, weaving it in a natural way,

00:19:48.140 by pumping their feet.

00:19:50.420 And this breeze, everything was organic.

00:19:53.320 Remember, you didn't have an option to poison and kill yourself and the planet.

00:19:57.120 Everything was organic at that point.

00:19:59.000 And if they dyed it, they'd use plants, they'd use leaves.

00:20:02.440 If it was green, they'd actually use chlorophyll from a leaf.

00:20:05.480 If it was red, they would use a beet.

00:20:07.840 If it was orange, they would use something like a carrot.

00:20:10.580 And so can you imagine how incredibly different that was

00:20:13.640 and how much better your body was equipped to endure itself

00:20:18.920 in those breathable, natural elements?

00:20:21.500 And you're using what the earth has provided for us

00:20:24.340 and living in sync with nature that way.

00:20:26.680 That's right.

00:20:27.900 And by the way, if you throw the clothing away, it becomes part of the soil again.

00:20:33.020 You throw away a plastic piece of clothing, and it may remain for 100,000 years.

00:20:37.860 Yeah, you know, the clippings from fabric mills are so loaded with dangerous chemicals

00:20:43.240 that are handled like toxic waste.

00:20:46.120 Jeez.

00:20:46.620 Yeah.

00:20:47.400 Yeah, I know in a lot of foreign countries where these fabric mills are,

00:20:52.100 there's nearby villages that have been complaining, and there's been cancer,

00:20:55.920 and their water's polluted, and it's all fine, I guess.

00:20:58.900 Nobody says anything, you know?

00:21:01.520 You said it.

00:21:02.940 Seven trillion dollars a year.

00:21:04.940 Well, you were talking about plant-based dyes, and that's a lost art.

00:21:10.040 Basically, in America, you have to go to countries like India or Nepal.

00:21:13.060 I've heard of one on the East Coast that's starting up that's dyeing yarn

00:21:16.620 with plant-based organic type of plants.

00:21:20.240 But I've heard the excuse that, oh, it takes too long

00:21:23.160 and too much space to grow the plants we would need to be able to dye clothes.

00:21:28.160 No, this is not true.

00:21:29.220 I mean, the problem is bad habits that cost less are hard to break.

00:21:35.380 Yeah.

00:21:35.980 And we see that with, you know, we're dealing, directing the world's oldest

00:21:40.760 and most reputable residential health organization.

00:21:45.460 And half the people that come here are not ill.

00:21:48.120 They come here to prevent aging and illness, but the other half are seriously ill.

00:21:52.380 And even with that, they're facing catastrophic problems.

00:21:56.620 It's hard to get them to change patterns.

00:21:59.220 And so when you're talking about that kind of an individual has a difficult time,

00:22:03.800 no wonder when you call a guy and want natural fiber, they say,

00:22:08.120 well, it's all natural, but we still use petrochemical dyes.

00:22:11.540 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:13.380 Yeah, then the detergents that we use to clean our clothes, I mean, that's a problem.

00:22:21.400 Yeah, that washes right into the water supply, and ultimately that comes right back to you.

00:22:26.720 And gets in our clothes, of course.

00:22:28.760 It was only 40 years ago when they realized we were destroying our rivers, streams, lakes,

00:22:33.720 and oceans with phosphates.

00:22:36.080 And so they, you know, they had to put a brake on that, and they tempered it down.

00:22:42.420 They still use phosphates, but they said now that you can have an option of no phosphate,

00:22:47.240 where there's been organic soaps widely available ever since the early parts of humanity,

00:22:54.560 and really widely, widely available by the 1930s and 40s around the world in Europe and North America.

00:23:01.820 And the reality is, this should be a law.

00:23:05.520 When you have something that's destroying the health of humans and destroying the very planet that we live on,

00:23:11.300 if they want to make laws, let's mandate those laws. 1.00

00:23:14.340 But sadly, the lobbyists are who get the laws in, and they're laws that protect corporate interests, not human health.

00:23:21.160 That's right.

00:23:22.940 Yeah.

00:23:23.540 You know, I was just talking to a naturopath recently, and he was telling me about some studies that have recently happened,

00:23:29.600 comparing the health effects.

00:23:31.080 They use children for this study.

00:23:33.040 Kids who are wearing synthetic fiber versus natural fiber clothing,

00:23:35.880 and children in the synthetics actually had faster heart rates, higher blood pressure.

00:23:40.640 They actually began acting different, like you were saying, so that really connects.

00:23:45.440 Whereas the kids in the natural fibers were, you know, normal heart rate.

00:23:49.280 They were calm.

00:23:50.380 So something to be said there.

00:23:52.900 Well, this is an interesting story.

00:23:54.600 It just happened in July.

00:23:56.700 We were on an international tour in Europe and went to three cities in Sweden.

00:24:02.300 And we met the psychologist who works with all of the Olympiads, the Olympic athletes that represent Sweden.

00:24:12.980 And he and his wife eat the way we do and wear natural fiber clothes and have read all of our books, et cetera.

00:24:19.920 And he pulled us aside after the conference and said it was just last week that after three years of begging the trainers

00:24:28.540 to change the clothing on the athletes, that he finally had them do it.

00:24:33.900 Now, as you know, all of these, quote, sports clothes are the most deadly of chemicals.

00:24:38.700 Oh, yeah.

00:24:39.080 I mean, it's like sports bars.

00:24:41.700 That's an oxymoron.

00:24:42.980 What's sports about a bar sitting down and getting drunk and getting fat?

00:24:46.220 What's sports about wearing polyester clothes that give you deadly chemicals?

00:24:50.300 Exactly.

00:24:51.940 They were noticing that a lot of these macho athletes that were the greatest runners,

00:24:57.160 the greatest bodybuilders, et cetera.

00:24:59.840 Their times would go up and down consistently when they looked at over decades.

00:25:05.620 And he proposed to them that what it was is the different clothing, including even shoes, that they were wearing.

00:25:11.160 Now, most of the shoes today, you go out and buy a sneaker, as an example.

00:25:15.240 It's plastic.

00:25:17.140 And so people said, sure, sure, sure, you're the psychologist. 1.00

00:25:20.600 You must be nuts. 1.00

00:25:21.460 Go over there and sit in the corner. 0.98

00:25:22.840 But this one fellow the week before we got there said, okay, we're going to do it.

00:25:27.160 He brought, he went as far as taking out of his own pocket the money, bought natural fiber sports clothes,

00:25:33.640 put them in natural footwear, and instantaneously, within a matter of five minutes,

00:25:40.160 after they took the, quote, sports clothes off,

00:25:42.900 the guy went back to the times that he had two years earlier and progressively during that one-week period increased his times

00:25:54.780 and became the best he had ever been just by wearing natural clothes.

00:25:59.680 So they were, that week, when we were there, the end of that week going to have a national conference with all of the trainers

00:26:07.040 because that's how incredibly profound the effect was on one of their top athletes to talk about wearing,

00:26:13.160 going back to natural fiber clothes again.

00:26:15.400 So this is not mythology.

00:26:17.100 We not only write about the science and the empirical evidence,

00:26:20.020 we talk about our own experience, a total of over 80 years taking these things off people

00:26:26.120 and watching them get healthy, watching them prevent disease, watching them slow down the aging process.

00:26:31.660 But now we talk about the effect this is having universally.

00:26:36.580 When athletes in a country like Sweden that send Olympiads every year to the Olympics

00:26:42.200 or every time they have an Olympic, basically they're getting it now.

00:26:45.620 And this is a healthy trend and we're happy that we can contribute to that.

00:26:50.180 Well, hopefully Victoria Seeker can jump on this bandwagon because everything they do is nylon. 1.00

00:26:55.140 And as we know, a lot of these nylon undies give women infections. 0.99

00:27:00.540 Because they create heat.

00:27:02.800 What women need to know that when you wear those bras and their underwear, 1.00

00:27:07.540 they create heat and all kinds of virus bacteria and yeast love to flourish in that.

00:27:15.840 Heat.

00:27:16.820 And so does cancer, you know.

00:27:19.340 And if you could just tell women and men that their libidos go away, their sex life is that.

00:27:24.620 That's what they're going to do.

00:27:25.660 They don't care about the cancer, but you tell them no more sex, then they'll stop. 0.95

00:27:28.800 Yeah, the lingerie is not so sexy anymore.

00:27:32.400 As a matter of fact, we wrote a book on that.

00:27:33.960 Yes, we did.

00:27:36.360 Oh, yeah.

00:27:37.580 You know, it's interesting because the DuPonts, they first invented nylons, right?

00:27:41.560 They were strong supporters of eugenics, which I find very interesting. 0.98

00:27:45.040 But some of the first made nylon stockings for women, I saw some old newspaper clippings

00:27:49.340 where women were afraid of nylon pantyhose, calling them cancer hoes. 1.00

00:27:54.160 Yeah.

00:27:54.440 Isn't that amazing?

00:27:55.600 Yeah.

00:27:55.820 So they picked up on it then, but then somehow it just went in.

00:27:59.700 It just went into mainstream.

00:28:01.960 Yeah.

00:28:02.440 Yeah.

00:28:02.800 It's just like most of what.

00:28:04.420 If they do something that's wrong long enough, it becomes right it's in the way.

00:28:09.240 Now, what are your thoughts on bamboo?

00:28:11.780 Because bamboo is heavily processed.

00:28:13.760 I know rayon actually comes from bamboo.

00:28:17.940 Yeah.

00:28:18.360 There are some forms, very, very rare, that they don't do that.

00:28:22.660 But I'd say the overwhelming majority of bamboo clothes are deadly chemicals.

00:28:27.320 Yeah.

00:28:27.700 Yeah.

00:28:28.400 You're not going to find organic bamboo, of course.

00:28:31.260 No, but I met one guy, a manufacturer, who he actually invented a method that was zero chemicals

00:28:38.520 because bamboo also grows without hardly any water and you don't need pesticides or anything.

00:28:43.200 But he came up with a truly organic bamboo fabric and he said he could not get market acceptance.

00:28:49.340 So that, again, makes me wonder if there's lobbyists involved there blocking this.

00:28:53.260 It's just like hemp.

00:28:54.280 Why aren't we growing hemp?

00:28:55.260 It grows like weeds.

00:28:56.120 It doesn't need water and pesticides, but yet...

00:28:59.420 Well, you're hitting it right.

00:29:01.280 You're not leading to a speculation.

00:29:03.460 You're exposing the truth.

00:29:05.720 Yeah.

00:29:06.140 It's just amazing.

00:29:07.320 Now, I also had another question.

00:29:08.740 I spoke to someone who said even organic fabric is actually treated with something before it becomes clothing

00:29:15.140 because, sure, it's organic cotton grows in the field.

00:29:18.160 It's not treated with any pesticides.

00:29:19.400 But to get it into a fabric format, that it is actually treated with something.

00:29:25.400 Do you know anything about that?

00:29:27.200 Well, there are some companies, larger companies.

00:29:30.460 For instance, Walmart in this country bought globally, I think, something like 28% of all the organic cotton.

00:29:42.180 And so they're producing and putting in Walmart and other stores under different labels organic clothing.

00:29:48.380 Now, when you get into that large level of manufacturing and the amount that's required to expedite the process,

00:29:56.260 they do use chemicals.

00:29:58.060 Now, most of these chemicals are nowhere near as problematic as the petrochemicals,

00:30:04.340 but there are exceptions to that rule.

00:30:06.440 On the other hand, what you've done is intelligent, that you check with the company.

00:30:12.520 They must have a checklist in front of you.

00:30:14.500 Could you tell me each and every process that it goes through?

00:30:18.340 When you say this is organic clothing, you mean that we go and get organic cotton from the field,

00:30:24.320 that we weave it as people would have 100 years ago, and that you use nothing else on it?

00:30:29.560 And if you talk to a manager of the company, they understand liability.

00:30:32.680 They're going to tell you one way or another.

00:30:33.940 Have you guys also noticed, too, there's a lot of these trendy, I hate this buzzword, eco-friendly,

00:30:40.180 because it really doesn't mean anything, this fake green movement that's happening.

00:30:44.580 But there's so many so-called organic clothing companies that are actually using recycled polyester,

00:30:50.200 nylon, and spandex mixed with organic cotton.

00:30:53.560 Have you seen this?

00:30:54.760 I've seen a lot of it.

00:30:55.980 It disgust me.

00:30:56.920 You've seen these in some of the big stores, even health stores around the country.

00:31:00.620 So I think we have to be congruent.

00:31:04.740 We have to be conscious and congruent and look at every aspect of what causes the problem.

00:31:09.760 And clothing is right up there with everything else that's bad about what humans are doing at this point.

00:31:16.420 And frankly, with the amount of money that comes, then I would probably say it's at the pinnacle level.

00:31:21.500 I mean, if it's destroying more lives, causing more psychological and physiological diseases than most other bad things,

00:31:27.680 we should be addressing this not on your internet radio show.

00:31:32.520 This should be on mainstream and cable networks globally, 24 hours a day until people get this into their head.

00:31:39.800 Yeah.

00:31:40.560 Oh, yeah.

00:31:41.640 And another important place, I know we're talking about clothing, but is your bed.

00:31:46.080 There are organic beds and organic sheets because you spend a lot of time there and you're sweating.

00:31:50.320 And this is the other thing.

00:31:51.480 Anything that you're putting next to your body, your skin is the largest organ.

00:31:54.540 And so it's absorbing everything, but it bypasses the liver, correct?

00:31:59.000 Absolutely.

00:31:59.820 Oh, absolutely.

00:32:00.500 We've had that for so many years.

00:32:02.800 All the beds at the Institute here, it's all organic.

00:32:06.880 And, I mean, our guests can see the difference and they want to follow the same idea.

00:32:12.420 So definitely, you sleep.

00:32:16.140 Spend eight hours there.

00:32:17.660 And, boy, if it's polyester, you're definitely going to soak up chemicals right from the bed.

00:32:23.000 And these are widely available, as you know, because you're conscious about this.

00:32:27.480 But most of the listeners would say, well, where do you buy your organic?

00:32:31.140 Well, with the advent of the Internet, again, it's the same advice I gave you before.

00:32:36.100 Get a hold of the manager or email to the manager.

00:32:39.580 This is truly pure.

00:32:41.940 Did you use any chemicals?

00:32:43.120 And as we checked, we literally got ours directly out of Asia and worked directly with the people that made it.

00:32:51.360 And because we have lots and lots of beds here and a need for lots and lots of limits.

00:32:56.040 And we waylaid having a problem where some of this may have been treated or mislabeled.

00:33:02.860 And that's what you've got to do.

00:33:04.280 But it doesn't take a lot of effort.

00:33:05.780 And once you do it, if you buy enough, you won't need to do or even think about it for years to come.

00:33:11.260 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:12.260 So how do we choose non-toxic clothing?

00:33:14.700 Are there any tests, things we can do, things we should look out for?

00:33:19.400 Well, first, you know, at the holidays, Christmas, they always laugh.

00:33:26.360 Although they've all come on board now, my family, they call us the 100%.

00:33:29.780 Because whenever we got a gift, we would look immediately.

00:33:33.780 Forget the gift.

00:33:34.720 I don't care how nice it was.

00:33:36.240 We'd open up and look at the label.

00:33:38.380 So is it 100%?

00:33:39.620 What is it 100% of?

00:33:41.540 Now, going back to suits as an example, I get 100% linen or 100% cotton or 100% wool suit.

00:33:51.080 Doesn't mean inside it's not polyester, the lining.

00:33:55.940 You have to look at that.

00:33:56.960 Number two, they almost treat 100% of male men's suits with a chemical.

00:34:04.180 Now, it's not as bad a chemical as making plastic clothing, but the reality is the vinegar can take that off.

00:34:11.500 Linen is one of the best.

00:34:12.980 And linen, another thing that Ann and I learned, we used to buy inexpensive clothing because of our budget when we were young.

00:34:19.720 Then we realized to wait for sales at expensive clothing stores, and they would last four and five times longer.

00:34:26.320 Exactly.

00:34:27.640 And the wealthy people know that this handful of us know it, but wealthy all know they wear linen.

00:34:36.080 They wear 100% particular type of weave wools, particular type of weave cottons, Egyptian form of cotton shirt.

00:34:44.680 And this has been noted by the people who can afford these things forever.

00:34:49.180 Yeah, they've been mocking the polyester suit.

00:34:51.260 They look down at you if you wear that.

00:34:53.600 Exactly.

00:34:54.200 Exactly.

00:34:55.320 Now, the rest of us have to get on board.

00:34:57.240 Yeah.

00:34:57.440 And they're probably not aware enough to realize that this is causing deadly poison, but they know it's much more prestigious and much more comfortable and feels a lot better.

00:35:07.720 And so you look for the 100%, and then you take it a step further.

00:35:12.380 Women now, because of the good designers, is an example that a recent article in what we call Organic Spa Magazine, I think they're on the Internet, has 10 designers. 0.61

00:35:24.360 Of course, many of them were those eco-friendly designers, but they do talk, for instance, about people like Paul McCartney's daughter, who pretty much eats this way, and she's designing really truly organic, not 100% always, but really eco-friendly and organic clothing.

00:35:44.880 And there's a lot of these people you may want to read about.

00:35:47.140 So women can find organic clothing. 1.00

00:35:49.660 Anna-Marie doesn't have a problem when we're in Europe, especially, finding these things.

00:35:54.260 Yeah.

00:35:54.740 The other thing to look out for is jeans.

00:35:56.600 Those are some of the most toxic with all the treatments they use to get that jeans look and feel.

00:36:00.940 So you want to get raw jeans, too, if you're going to wear jeans.

00:36:05.800 Absolutely.

00:36:06.880 And they're available.

00:36:08.020 You can find these hemp stores all over the world now, and natural cotton stores.

00:36:15.340 And a good time to buy these things are in the summer season, and you can find them inexpensively.

00:36:22.540 What we used to do years ago, and we had time and a whole lot less money, we used to go to used clothing stores.

00:36:28.600 And if you bought a jacket that probably came back in style 50 years later, it was all natural fiber at that point.

00:36:36.080 They didn't have the inside with silk, if anything.

00:36:40.220 Well, I definitely want to get into the dangerous future of clothing, but before that, I just wanted to make an interesting note.

00:36:45.460 The DuPont's main chemist, Wallace Hume Carathers, I think his name, who you guys credited as basically the father of synthetic fabrics.

00:36:53.300 I thought it was interesting because he had really bad depression, and he killed himself in 1937, so maybe he was exposed to too many chemicals.

00:37:01.720 No question.

00:37:03.340 I mean, if you saw the neuron disruption, and when you're thinking and listening to us and understanding what we're all saying, it's neurons in the brain that do that.

00:37:12.340 But if you put this highly toxic, estrogen-rich or estrogen-mimicking deadly chemical into your brain from inhalation, that's going to throw off the neurons.

00:37:24.400 And if you're a little bit on the edge, and geniuses quite often are a little bit on the edge, the cerebral group, as I call them, that's enough to throw you off the end so you could become suicidal.

00:37:34.580 Just like psychiatric drugs do it, well, deadly chemicals on clothing also contribute.

00:37:39.240 Wow. Yeah, so you have Chapter 7, The Dangerous Future of Clothing, and you write about nanoparticles.

00:37:46.320 Can you both talk about this?

00:37:48.040 Yeah, now, to explain nanoparticles to you, it's a little frightening.

00:37:53.780 Many of the listeners don't know about them.

00:37:56.240 This is really subatomic particles.

00:37:58.960 So they're protons and neutrons, little tiny invisible forms of structure.

00:38:04.680 And what they realized is that they could actually, for less money, put these little structures together to create fibers.

00:38:14.120 So it's almost like the electronic age version of clothing, bad disaster chemical clothing at this point.

00:38:20.980 And those little nanoparticles come off, are taken right up into the bloodstream, and can literally lodge in everything from the brain to the liver to the heart.

00:38:33.300 And can you imagine the problems that that may cause?

00:38:36.920 And, of course, we're just beginning with these concepts.

00:38:39.760 They're putting silver into the clothing.

00:38:42.180 You know why?

00:38:43.320 Because silver kills bacteria and microbes.

00:38:45.740 So when people have odor on their clothes because they've been perspiring on it in certain circumstances, by putting silver into that and then wearing it, you won't have the odor.

00:38:59.540 And you won't need to wash the garment as often.

00:39:03.060 Can you imagine putting an incredibly high amount, more than you would take therapeutically from a health store, an incredibly high amount, subderminally, into your body?

00:39:13.100 We're working with a fellow right now that's one of the world's leading experts in subdernal uptake of particles.

00:39:20.940 And he's doing a positive thing, talking about nutrition going right through the skin.

00:39:25.360 But now when you start to put deadly chemicals and cancer-causing elements and heavy metals, that's what these particles are, this is going to destroy human health more rapidly than you can imagine.

00:39:37.820 You would almost think this isn't about greed, which it is.

00:39:40.600 It's about greed.

00:39:41.240 You would almost think there was a master plan to wipe out humanity when you look at it.

00:39:44.840 Oh, yeah.

00:39:45.780 I know.

00:39:46.480 A death wish.

00:39:48.140 Yep.

00:39:48.660 It is a death.

00:39:49.180 I've also heard some conspiracy theories about nano being able to remotely, you know, track your moves or mind control you.

00:39:55.040 So imagine if the government made some form of nano clothing mandatory at all times so they could always track you and control you.

00:40:02.300 Well, that's true.

00:40:03.480 I mean, these nanoparticles, they are now able to be coded with electronics and frequencies and they can actually move them.

00:40:12.780 That was one of the first things they did, by the way.

00:40:15.920 This is how they've tested nanotechnology at MIT and other, you know, engineering and science universities globally.

00:40:23.680 Yeah, I also know that there's a brand, it's called Tencel.

00:40:29.120 I've been looking into it.

00:40:30.120 It's a new fiber called LyoCell and I keep seeing it marketed as eco-friendly and green.

00:40:36.860 But they use some of this technology.

00:40:38.440 They use a lot of that technology and it's wood.

00:40:42.060 They actually take wood and make it into clothing.

00:40:45.160 And it's a much, much, it's much more economic for them to do that because a tree has much more molecular density.

00:40:56.060 And when they can eat it up, that fiber of the tree, the cellulose of the tree, and make it into strands,

00:41:02.440 which trees naturally have that ability to begin with, it costs far less with that dense, large tree than it would to have a field.

00:41:11.840 And somebody equated it to me one time.

00:41:14.200 It may take for one large redwood tree three acres to replace what you could get out of clothing.

00:41:21.100 And so this is why they like this.

00:41:23.020 And they're using deadly technology to get it to be fiber.

00:41:27.320 And, you know, we're living beings.

00:41:29.840 We move, we sweat, we bring all this stuff into our body.

00:41:33.840 And it's really horrendous, you know.

00:41:36.220 Oh, yeah.

00:41:37.160 I just think of, too, if this green movement goes far because it is being hijacked.

00:41:41.460 And if it goes to a point where the government says, according to Agenda 21,

00:41:46.100 okay, we need to conserve all natural resources.

00:41:48.560 So now if you want to be green and save the planet, you only should wear synthetic fiber clothing.

00:41:54.680 Yep.

00:41:55.260 Well, that's how they do.

00:41:56.460 They manipulate.

00:41:57.460 You know, over the years they've been really good at that.

00:42:00.080 With different movements.

00:42:01.540 And they hijacked the movement.

00:42:03.660 Oh, yeah.

00:42:04.820 Well, thank you both so much.

00:42:06.260 Is there anything else we missed that we should cover?

00:42:09.100 Well, I just hope that people listen closely to you and the astute interest you had in this.

00:42:14.720 And read killer clothes.

00:42:16.240 If you can get on the Hippocrates Institute website, we dedicated an entire one of our magazines, Heal Our World, that goes to 60 countries and 100,000 copies quarterly comes out.

00:42:29.120 And so you may get on the Hippocrates website, HippocratesInstitute.org.

00:42:34.940 It's H-I-P-P-O-C-R-A-T-E-S-I-N-S-T-I-T-U-T-E, HippocratesInstitute.org.

00:42:43.580 And look at the magazine archives.

00:42:45.540 You can read about that and many other subjects.

00:42:47.580 You know, last year we came out with a book, Killer Fish, to show you how deadly it is to consume aquatic life.

00:42:52.820 And as Anna Marie and I joked, it wasn't a joke.

00:42:56.320 We've written a book, The Seven Ways to Lifelong Sexual Vitality.

00:42:59.920 And we talk about gender bending in there, as you mentioned earlier, and how boys are no longer boys and girls are no longer girls.

00:43:07.300 And how the first time in history because of clothing and bad food, et cetera, we have 2% more females being born than males.

00:43:14.360 And we expect by 250, it would be 5% to 7% different.

00:43:19.100 And so a lot that you can read about and learn.

00:43:21.680 And it was nice to be on with you.

00:43:23.780 And we look forward to doing things in the future.

00:43:25.700 Thank you both so much.

00:43:26.760 Thank you, too, Anna.

00:43:27.580 I really appreciate it.

00:43:29.040 That was wonderful.

00:43:29.960 Thanks.

00:43:30.660 So there you have it.

00:43:32.020 Read clothing labels.

00:43:34.100 Avoid all clothing made of synthetic fabrics.

00:43:37.500 Always choose natural fibers, organic when possible.

00:43:41.200 And it's a good time to let you know that I've been working on a new clothing company of my own that will be available this winter called Lana's Llama,

00:43:48.620 featuring non-toxic, natural fiber clothing for both men and women.

00:43:53.440 And I don't mean just yoga pants.

00:43:55.500 We'll have links on Red Ice once it's available.

00:43:57.640 So remember, choose clothing made of natural fibers or wear nothing at all.

00:44:02.280 If you're blue and you don't know where to go to, why don't you go where fashion sits?

00:44:19.420 Putting on the ritz.

00:44:22.360 Different types who wear a day coat, pants with stripes and cut away coat.

00:44:26.780 Perfect fits.

00:44:28.920 Putting on the ritz.

00:44:30.160 Dressed up like a million-dollar trooper.

00:44:36.760 Trying hard to look like Gary Cooper.

00:44:40.700 Super duper.

00:44:41.880 Come, let's mix. 0.99

00:44:42.860 We're Rockefellers.

00:44:44.100 Walk with sticks or umbrellas in their mitts.

00:44:48.560 Putting on the ritz.

00:44:51.300 Have you seen the well-to-do?

00:44:54.060 Up and down Park Avenue.

00:44:56.440 On that famous thoroughfare.

00:44:58.420 With their noses in the air.

00:45:01.360 High hats and arrow collars.

00:45:03.820 White spats and lots of dollars.

00:45:06.240 Spending every dime.

00:45:08.540 For a wonderful time.

00:45:11.080 If you're blue and you don't know where to go to,

00:45:14.140 why don't you go where fashion sits? 1.00

00:45:17.740 Putting on the ritz.

00:45:18.780 Different types who wear a day coat, pants with stripes and cut away coat.

00:45:25.100 Perfect fits.

00:45:27.240 Putting on the ritz.

00:45:30.280 Dress up like a million-dollar trooper.

00:45:35.140 Trying hard to look like Gary Cooper.

00:45:39.160 Super duper.

00:45:39.960 Come, let's mix. 0.99

00:45:41.240 We're Rockefellers.

00:45:42.460 Walk with sticks or umbrellas in their mitts.

00:45:46.980 Putting on the ritz.

00:45:47.880 Dress up like a million-dollar trooper.

00:46:14.940 Trying hard to look like Gary Cooper.

00:46:20.440 Super duper.

00:46:21.620 If you're blue and you don't know where to go to,

00:46:24.680 why don't you go where fashion sits? 1.00

00:46:28.320 Putting on the ritz.

00:46:30.460 Putting on the ritz.

00:46:32.900 Putting on the ritz.

00:46:35.340 Putting on the ritz.

00:46:36.540 Down, down, up, down.

00:46:50.820 Get your cakes at the ritz.

00:46:55.460 Dine one, but not till now.

00:46:58.000 The time is right for us tonight.

00:46:59.960 We can move.

00:47:01.100 Move to the rhythm.

00:47:04.800 We can.

00:47:10.080 Move.

00:47:12.600 Dance to the rhythm.

00:47:15.140 Nice and easy.

00:47:16.800 How about you, Menezes?

00:47:35.240 How about you, Menezes?

00:47:39.240 ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYS

00:47:48.580 Gotta dance

00:47:59.000 Gotta dance

00:48:18.580 Gotta dance

Radio 3Fourteen - August 28, 2013

Toxic Clothing_ Synthetic vs. Natural Fibers

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