Radio 3Fourteen - Willing Accomplices_ How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America

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00:00:14.000 This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.

00:00:44.000 Hello, this is Lana, and I extend a very warm welcome to you.

00:00:48.900 Joining me is Kent Clisby, who has many stories to tell as a former CIA operations officer.

00:00:53.860 We'll focus on his book, Willing Accomplices, How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America.

00:01:02.380 Kent will discuss how KGB covert influence agents in American education and academia, Hollywood, and the media inserted the anti-American messages that became political correctness. 0.99

00:01:12.860 Now, I know all of you sincere truth-seekers are not suckers for this political correct garbage, but unfortunately, many useful idiots have fallen victim to the false promises of the PC progressives creed. 0.91

00:01:24.560 Don't go anywhere, because we'll be discussing many subtopics that fit under the category of the PC progressive agenda. 0.94

00:01:31.080 Kent, welcome, and thanks for being here.

00:01:33.800 Great to be here today, Lana. Thanks for having me.

00:01:36.240 Well, before we dive into the world of KGB and political correctness, please tell us about your background and how that led up to writing Willing Accomplices.

00:01:44.080 Well, I sort of have an eclectic background, but what really gives me the expertise and the ability to look at this issue the way I did was my experience in the intelligence community.

00:02:02.940 I started out as a translator in the military.

00:02:09.300 I was a linguist. I was a Vietnamese linguist.

00:02:13.100 And that was back in the 80s during the Cold War.

00:02:16.980 And that was the first time I ever really thought about the Russians or communism at all.

00:02:24.880 I sat in the Philippines and listened to the Vietnamese communists who, the Russians at the time, had a base in our old Cam'ron Bay.

00:02:37.340 So that was my first exposure to communism and that sort of thing.

00:02:44.320 But I only looked at it at a very superficial level at the time.

00:02:48.780 I was interested in counting Russian aircrafts taking off from Vietnam at a very – it wasn't at the idealistic or philosophical level.

00:03:05.180 But that was my first introduction to that kind of thing.

00:03:08.420 Later on, after I got out of the military, I got into teaching English as a second language.

00:03:16.020 And I traveled around the world, taught in Europe, the Middle East, and Asia.

00:03:24.160 And that is the other part of my background, which really comes together in Willing Accomplices.

00:03:33.320 The two pieces of Willing Accomplices are the looking at things from the intelligence perspective.

00:03:39.960 And the other is understanding American culture.

00:03:44.260 And it's really important that Americans understand that our culture is unique in the world and that it's special and it's the most – the best country, the best culture, everything combined that's ever existed in the history of the world.

00:04:01.340 And I learned that by living and working in other places around the world.

00:04:06.940 So I later came back to the States and worked for the CIA.

00:04:11.200 I was a case officer, an espionage officer.

00:04:15.440 And the job that I did as a case officer was to spot, assess, and recruit foreigners to provide intelligence to the United States. 0.77

00:04:26.040 So that was my introduction to human intelligence and all of the different specialties within human, as we call it.

00:04:38.660 One of those specialties within human is an area called covert influence.

00:04:45.900 And I learned about covert influence.

00:04:49.520 I practiced it.

00:04:50.780 I studied it.

00:04:51.840 I saw how it was done by our side.

00:04:56.460 And I saw how our adversaries practiced it.

00:05:01.520 That was while I was in.

00:05:03.060 I didn't really get into any deep studies of the history of these kinds of things while I was still in the agency.

00:05:12.180 When I got out, I really – it hit me when I was, as a father, raising my children.

00:05:25.760 I've got two sons.

00:05:27.200 They're 18 and 23 now.

00:05:29.920 And as I raised my kids, how American culture had totally changed from the time I was a kid really struck me.

00:05:44.140 Yeah, it's – you know, just within the course of 20 years, as my kids were going through school, I was able – I saw things through their eyes.

00:05:55.040 And I saw how much the culture had changed.

00:05:59.260 So by now, I – this was probably the early 2000s, say 1999 to 2000, as my kids were growing up.

00:06:08.380 I was out of the government.

00:06:09.980 I was running – I was an entrepreneur.

00:06:12.300 I had my own business as a headhunter.

00:06:15.660 9-11 came, and I went back into the government as a contractor, working for the CIA, running counterterrorism operations.

00:06:26.040 I traveled most of the time.

00:06:30.160 I was out of the country about six or eight months out of the year, but I was in and out pretty often.

00:06:36.100 Every couple months, I'd come back.

00:06:37.640 And it really struck me that at that time, I would be overseas working with foreigners against our joint counterterrorism targets. 0.98

00:06:50.280 And many of these foreigners are Muslims.

00:06:53.400 Many of them are Arabs or Asians or other ethnicities.

00:06:58.600 But they all really admired America, and they loved the idea of America.

00:07:06.780 And yet, when I would return back to Dulles Airport right outside D.C., get a Washington Post on the cab ride back home, and the headlines were as if – they struck me as if a Russian, a communist who hated our country, wrote the headline.

00:07:28.120 This was during the Bush administration.

00:07:29.120 The media was constantly attacking normal Americans.

00:07:36.120 They were attacking everything that Bush did as we're in the middle of a war against terrorists.

00:07:42.120 The more that I traveled in and out of the country and saw this dichotomy between what we were doing overseas to help others and work together and how America was admired by foreigners, and yet there was a huge faction within our country that despised normal Americans.

00:08:10.120 So, with all of these things came together, my espionage background, my understanding of covert influence, my immersion in sort of a cultural critique of American culture, all came together as I formulated the question of how could our country commit cultural suicide?

00:08:35.700 Because, in effect, that's what we were doing.

00:08:38.440 We've done it.

00:08:39.260 Oh, yeah, it's done.

00:08:40.400 I posit now that – and you see the subtitle of Will and Accomplices is how the covert influence operations destroyed – that's past tense – destroyed America.

00:08:53.900 So, that was sort of a long answer to your question, but there's a lot of facets that all came together to give me a unique opportunity to begin the project, the research project that resulted in writing Will and Accomplices.

00:09:10.040 Now, in your research, where would you say political correctness has its origin point?

00:09:14.140 I know a lot of people talk about the Frankfurt School, which is a big X that marks a spot in history, but what do you say?

00:09:21.160 Well, that's an interesting point of view, and that comes up because that's what's obvious to people.

00:09:28.700 People are looking at what is on the surface.

00:09:32.520 A quick answer is the Frankfurt School and others like them, Saul Alinsky and others who are obvious and overt are all the descendants of the original creator of the message that is political correctness.

00:10:00.300 And that is Willi Munzenberg.

00:10:03.300 He was a German communist who was a member of the Comintern, a close friend of Vladimir Lenin, and it was his operation that – he was the – he's really a genius, I mean, an evil genius, but a genius of covert influence operations. 0.84

00:10:22.600 And he conceived of the payload, the message that was inserted into our culture by his agents and that became political correctness.

00:10:35.780 So the key is to first define what is political correctness, and that's a big problem with Americans and conservatives.

00:10:45.660 Many conservatives, many normal Americans, everybody knows or talks about political correctness, but very few people understand exactly what it is.

00:10:58.480 And one of my goals now, now that I've done this research and this project, is to help everyone to understand exactly what political correctness is.

00:11:11.280 When you define what it is, I like to start off with what it is not, and that is many of the misconceptions that conservatives and normal Americans have.

00:11:24.080 When they talk about political correctness, they will say things like, PC is not wanting to offend anyone, or PC is the being careful of others' feelings, something like that.

00:11:44.740 Well, that's totally wrong.

00:11:46.720 Political correctness has nothing to do with not wanting to offend anyone.

00:11:51.300 What it has to do with is a hatred of normal America and normal American culture.

00:12:00.780 That's all.

00:12:01.560 If you boil it down to what political correctness is, it's a hatred of American culture.

00:12:09.320 And here's what, straight out of the mouth of Willie Munzenberg, who created political correctness.

00:12:16.700 PC is, you can use pretty much two sentences. 1.00

00:12:20.240 America is a racist, sexist, homophobic, foreigner-hating, imperialist, capitalist hellhole. 1.00

00:12:31.300 That's the first sentence. 1.00

00:12:32.500 And the second is, and it must be changed.

00:12:35.900 Well, those are the progressives' talking points today.

00:12:39.420 That can't.

00:12:40.040 Well, Willie Munzenberg created that.

00:12:42.360 And when you say that's the progressives' talking points, that is political correctness.

00:12:48.420 They are not, I don't call them progressives.

00:12:51.700 I call them politically correct progressives.

00:12:55.020 Because progressivism, when you say progressive, that has sort of a positive spin to it.

00:13:02.360 But if you call them PC progressives, then that exactly defines who they are.

00:13:09.100 And as I said in the beginning, when we started talking about PC, terminology is really, really important.

00:13:15.620 We've got to understand who our opponents are.

00:13:18.740 We cannot counteract them unless we understand who they are.

00:13:24.640 And right now, normal Americans are totally confused about who our opponents are and what they believe.

00:13:34.980 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:13:36.100 Willie Munzenberg, he was also a co-founder of the Frankfurt School.

00:13:39.440 And he stated flatly, he said, 0.96

00:13:41.820 We will make the West so corrupt, it stinks.

00:13:44.720 He goes on to say that they'll use intellectuals to make this happen.

00:13:47.860 And as we clearly look at school today, they are using this to happen. 0.97

00:13:52.740 And the West does stink.

00:13:54.300 And it seems like it's all manufactured by these very people in order to make the West look bad. 0.95

00:14:00.320 Well, that's exactly what it was.

00:14:02.160 In Munzenberg, Munzenberg, the two sentences I just described were from Munzenberg.

00:14:09.400 That was his, in covert influence operations, we call that the payload.

00:14:13.440 That his payload is the message that he inserted into our culture.

00:14:20.120 Frankfurt School is overt, they're sort of the losers of the operational world.

00:14:31.700 They couldn't operate like Munzenberg did covertly.

00:14:37.600 Munzenberg's situation was unique and it was fantastic.

00:14:41.760 From an espionage operational point of view.

00:14:45.540 His overt role was as a propagandist.

00:14:51.560 Propaganda is very different from covert influence.

00:14:55.660 He ran the Comintern, which is the Communist International,

00:15:02.440 which is what the Bolsheviks set up in order to facilitate the spread of communism across the world.

00:15:10.880 Which they thought was going to happen in the matter of a couple of years after they won in Russia.

00:15:17.600 Munzenberg was in charge of the overt, the public spreading of the communist message.

00:15:26.480 The guys in what they call the Frankfurt School are just a bunch of intellectuals who heard Munzenberg's message,

00:15:34.680 who received the message and tried to do it overtly.

00:15:40.880 The message that they spread overtly is it's not palatable.

00:15:47.600 People hate it when they hear it, when it's overt, so they reject it. 0.98

00:15:52.720 So the Frankfurt School were losers.

00:15:56.020 Munzenberg's operations that created PC were the winners and they were unbelievably successful.

00:16:04.660 The way he did that, the way that he ran the covert influence operation, was to create front organizations.

00:16:13.620 He called them the popular front.

00:16:16.060 And none of them were overtly anti-American or anti-capitalist or anything overtly.

00:16:26.760 They all sounded great.

00:16:29.040 And you see the PC progressives today continue exactly doing the Munzenberg operation.

00:16:35.480 For instance, Willie, he founded the International Congress Against Fascism and War, which is hilarious.

00:16:41.900 And that makes me think of Antifa, who also claimed to be against fascism, but they're extremely violent fascist ones.

00:16:47.900 Well, that's a great example, but he and his operators set up literally hundreds of these front organizations.

00:17:00.100 Each one of them would be controlled, sponsored, funded by the Comintern, by Munzenberg and his operators.

00:17:08.620 And they proliferated all around the United States.

00:17:13.620 And they pulled in what Munzenberg called them, innocents.

00:17:19.300 They're Americans who are drawn to this message of high-minded idealism.

00:17:29.620 But yet, underneath that, the cover message of high-minded anti-fascism is his covert influence message. 0.94

00:17:42.760 America is horrible. 1.00

00:17:44.520 America is racist. 1.00

00:17:45.780 The reason we need to do this is because America is supporting these German fascists. 0.98

00:17:54.760 Whatever the organization focused on, he created organizations based on racism, women's rights, imperialism, anti-imperialism, anti-capitalism, anti-business.

00:18:15.980 Those were all Munzenberg fronts, Munzenberg's operations.

00:18:19.560 None of them were overtly pro-communist or pro-Soviet.

00:18:25.180 They were all overtly nice-sounding names.

00:18:30.440 For example, have you ever heard of Sacco and Vanzetti?

00:18:35.600 No.

00:18:37.080 Sacco and Vanzetti was Munzenberg's first operation in the United States.

00:18:42.520 It was in the mid-1920s.

00:18:45.600 They were a pair of Italian anarchists who, during a robbery, shot and killed a cop in Boston.

00:18:55.780 And they were caught, they were put on trial, and they were condemned.

00:19:00.200 During their appeals, Munzenberg took up their case, and it was his first covert influence operation in the United States.

00:19:12.620 He created several front organizations, mostly based out of New York City, and he targeted the entertainment industry and journalists and academics.

00:19:26.140 And so he created things like Broadway for Sacco and Vanzetti, journalists against racism, journalists against xenophobia, journalists in support of foreign residents, something like that.

00:19:45.140 So he spun this story of two anarchists who murdered a cop into America is a racist, xenophobic, foreigner-hating country.

00:19:56.800 And if you join these groups to support Sacco and Vanzetti, you are a caring, caring, beautiful, kind-hearted person, as opposed to all those racist haters out there in the rest of the country. 0.96

00:20:16.120 Those normal Americans, they're all racist haters.

00:20:19.260 Does that sound familiar? 0.99

00:20:20.860 Sure, yeah, of course.

00:20:22.100 That's exactly what they do today, and Munzenberg created that.

00:20:28.460 If you look at Sacco and Vanzetti, they still, Casey's address is still foam at the mouth and talking about Sacco and Vanzetti.

00:20:37.160 They love it.

00:20:38.560 But nobody realizes that that was a Munzenberg operation, and that was his first operation in the United States. 0.90

00:20:44.760 He saw how successful he was in sucking in these, what he called innocents, and I call them willing accomplices. 0.98

00:20:53.380 They were all aware of that what they were doing was against normal America, but it made them feel good. 0.88

00:21:02.000 He created this attitude of we're superior, we're better.

00:21:05.760 Moral, moral superiority.

00:21:08.380 Not just moral, but it is moral, intellectual, emotional, international.

00:21:14.820 You're just a better person because you've joined this group, and you have these high-minded ideals.

00:21:24.040 That was Munzenberg's creation, and it is exactly what politically correct progressives are still doing to this day.

00:21:32.160 So that's where that came from.

00:21:34.440 It didn't come from the Frankfurt School or a bunch of bloviating intellectuals who are overtly talking about communism, socialism, that kind of thing.

00:21:44.560 But they really influenced the universities and started programming all the people in America, though, that's for sure, when they made their way over to New York.

00:21:53.480 Munzenberg was way ahead of them.

00:21:56.000 Munzenberg had, in willing accomplices, you'll see, I did three case studies, one in the media, one in academia slash education, and one in Hollywood.

00:22:10.620 Those are the three areas that Munzenberg targeted.

00:22:13.720 I call them the transmission belts of culture.

00:22:17.140 If you can insert the anti-American message into those transmission belts of culture, Munzenberg's thinking was, if you can get in there and control the culture, then you can create the anti-normal American point of view that he was trying to create.

00:22:41.100 Oh, yeah, it's a culture war.

00:22:43.240 If you can control the culture, you can control everything, including government.

00:22:46.540 So, of course, media, education, entertainment, it was a brilliant plan.

00:22:52.020 Well, that's what I'm saying.

00:22:53.160 He was a genius. 0.81

00:22:54.200 He was an evil genius.

00:22:55.760 But that was Munzenberg's plan.

00:22:58.660 It wasn't the Frankfurt School.

00:23:00.040 Those guys were just guys.

00:23:01.540 They were hangers-on onto the over-common-turned-propaganda sort of network.

00:23:11.400 Munzenberg was in Columbia University long before they ever got there.

00:23:15.820 Well, what I was saying about the case studies in my book, Will and Accomplices, is for academia and education, I look at a professor in Columbia by the name of George S. Counts.

00:23:30.160 And George S. Counts was a professor at the International Institute for Education of Columbia Teachers College.

00:23:41.440 He was recruited into the Munzenberg operation right away.

00:23:46.680 As soon as he arrived in Columbia, he was the Russian expert for the International Institute of Education.

00:23:57.260 And as soon as he went to Russia, he was recruited.

00:24:02.980 And from then on, that was in about 1925 or so.

00:24:09.020 From then on until World War II, he was spreading the Munzenberg message covertly.

00:24:18.200 What you find is that the people who overtly talk about these things, like the Frankfurt School people, were not effective.

00:24:32.020 Americans would, if you overtly talked about this message, this message of hate, you were rejected.

00:24:40.680 But like the Counts, George S. Counts, his message was covert.

00:24:46.940 And it was the way that Munzenberg's operation worked, is instead of talking about how bad America is, you cloak your criticisms very gently into talking about a better way of life.

00:25:07.460 You don't talk about socialism.

00:25:09.740 You don't talk about communism.

00:25:11.420 You just talk about a better way of doing things.

00:25:13.980 Individualism, maybe that's not the right way.

00:25:17.340 Maybe we should look at cooperating.

00:25:20.060 And that was Counts.

00:25:21.340 Counts, even until today, is revered in schools of education.

00:25:27.380 They call his philosophy the reconstructionist education philosophy.

00:25:35.240 And the Counts philosophy is where every American school teacher today

00:25:42.900 always talks about their goal is to change the world, is to change America.

00:25:51.380 That's Counts.

00:25:52.760 That came directly from Counts, who was a Mutzzenberg covert influence operator. 0.53

00:25:59.040 Counts' first book was a translation of the Russians' first five-year plan for their elementary schools.

00:26:12.080 He presented it in a very non-threatening way and said, look, here's an experiment that others are trying.

00:26:21.500 What a great idea this is.

00:26:23.680 And it was all about central planning, the elimination of individual effort, the creation of community-wide efforts, taking away the individual initiative, taking away individual...

00:26:45.680 In effect, the rugged individualism that was America, what Counts pushed was the...

00:26:57.680 He never called it socialism, but in effect, it was socialism.

00:27:01.040 Mm-hmm.

00:27:02.040 So that's the difference between the covert influence, which was highly successful.

00:27:07.920 It worked.

00:27:09.300 He gained...

00:27:11.040 And again, Mutzzenberg's... 0.99

00:27:13.720 The way that he ran his operations was he made people who bought into his ideas feel like they were superior.

00:27:24.780 And Counts was exactly the...

00:27:27.460 That's how Counts worked.

00:27:28.940 Counts...

00:27:29.940 He ended up being the president of the Progressive Education Association.

00:27:35.480 He was also the president of the...

00:27:37.700 One other teachers' union, American Teachers' Union.

00:27:42.360 I can't remember the name of it.

00:27:43.840 Let's say it starts with an A.

00:27:45.280 American...

00:27:46.000 A-S-T, I think. 0.91

00:27:47.140 American Federation of Teachers.

00:27:48.480 But he pushed this covertly, the idea that we must do away with individualism.

00:27:57.560 We must do away with the old American way. 1.00

00:28:00.620 We're in a new world.

00:28:02.000 Everything must be changed. 1.00

00:28:04.340 And also, whites are evil. 1.00

00:28:06.940 They're evil colonialists. 1.00

00:28:08.680 Demonizing Europe. 0.96

00:28:09.880 All of that started happening there.

00:28:11.320 Very anti-white messages and rewriting history books, basically.

00:28:15.820 That's from Mutzzenberg. 0.99

00:28:16.880 Racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, foreigner-hating, imperialist, capitalist. 0.98

00:28:23.640 So each one of his operations would have a piece of that message. 0.97

00:28:29.780 All put together, they all melded and were passed down through Hollywood.

00:28:37.460 He had a huge operation in Hollywood.

00:28:39.780 He had one case officer who ran specifically the operation to set up fronts in Hollywood.

00:28:47.800 His name was Otto Katz.

00:28:50.120 He went by Andre Simone, was one of his aliases.

00:28:54.280 When he worked against Hollywood, Katz slash Simone set up several front organizations in Hollywood.

00:29:04.440 And they also, they got the media, the case study that I used to show how Mutzzenberg worked against the media is Walter Durandy, who was the New York Times man in Moscow.

00:29:21.360 He was also this Stalin's apologist, right?

00:29:23.980 Trying to cover up the Ukrainian famine, things like that.

00:29:26.740 Well, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:29:28.880 That's, you know, that's, that's the, the, uh, uh, official bio, I mean, his, his biographer called him Stalin's apologist, but that's not, he wasn't just Stalin's apologist.

00:29:40.400 He was a covert influence agent working in Mutzzenberg's anti-American operation.

00:29:46.540 So it's, uh, before willing accomplices, people didn't understand, the general public didn't understand the depth and the breadth of the covert, and, well, people don't understand covert influence operations to begin with.

00:30:02.940 But, uh, people could see, yeah, Walter Durandy was Stalin's apologist, but it's, it's much worse than that.

00:30:10.020 And it's much deeper and more sinister and more damaging than anything that, that people had ever realized before willing accomplices.

00:30:21.240 Yeah, they took a conspiracy to a whole other level, disinfo, false flags, I mean, mind games up the wazoo.

00:30:28.580 In fact, I'm glad you mentioned conspiracy, because I, I, I, I, I deal with that in willing accomplices.

00:30:35.100 You know, people will say, oh, yeah, this is a conspiracy theory.

00:30:38.680 Well, uh, espionage is a conspiracy.

00:30:42.300 Exactly.

00:30:42.920 By very definition.

00:30:44.280 It's a, it's a group of people gathering together in secret to plan an operation to carry out an objective that they don't tell anybody about.

00:30:58.100 Exactly.

00:30:59.080 So, so that's the point that I, that the reason that my background, my expertise as, as a espionage operator, as a conspirator, if you will, everything, all of the operations that I cannot talk about that I did as a CIA officer, we're all conspiracy.

00:31:18.000 Of course.

00:31:18.320 Nobody knows who's doing them.

00:31:21.540 We have secret objectives.

00:31:23.420 We use secret, secret methods to achieve secret objectives that we never talk about.

00:31:29.040 Mm-hmm.

00:31:29.960 Oh, yeah.

00:31:30.340 That's exactly what Munzenberg did.

00:31:32.160 Munzenberg was a conspiracy, ran a massive, multi-billion dollar conspiracy against the United States made up of many other co-conspirators, many of them who were wicking, that is, who knew what was happening.

00:31:52.400 Many others, or the vast majority, were unwitting.

00:31:56.620 The people who joined his front organizations, who he called innocents, they didn't know what they were getting involved in, but that doesn't matter.

00:32:04.920 They were still, spread the message, and were much more powerful than the, the, the, uh, witting ones like, like Otto Katz. 0.98

00:32:17.240 So if we take it back just a minute, when did he hook up with the KGB, and when did they say, hey, let's go to the U.S. and find some useful idiots to do the bidding of communism? 0.95

00:32:27.060 Uh, Willie Munzenberg was the same generation as Vladimir Lenin. 0.74

00:32:33.060 Vladimir Lenin was exiled from Russia, um, a couple of times, but just before the Russian Revolution, he was exiled to Switzerland.

00:32:45.280 Um, I'm pretty sure he was in Geneva.

00:32:48.880 Willie Munzenberg was exiled from Germany and was, was in the same circle as Lenin, the same, uh, Marxist communist circles as Lenin.

00:32:59.800 He was, uh, Lenin's, uh, Lenin, uh, the Germans allowed the, the Russian communists, uh, Lenin and his circle of advisors to travel from Switzerland to, uh, to Russia.

00:33:19.140 Uh, they, they, they put them in a train in Switzerland and they sealed it as, and would not let them get out as it passed through Germany.

00:33:27.880 And it, you know, they, they looked at them sort of like they were infected.

00:33:32.200 They didn't want Germany to be infected, but they wanted Russia to be infected.

00:33:37.900 The Germans facilitated Lenin and the, the, the communists, um, to go back into Russia. 0.74

00:33:45.020 And in fact, that's, that's why that, that was, that was a, uh, a German covert influence operation that brought an end into World War I.

00:33:54.240 That was their goal.

00:33:55.100 They wanted to, um, um, to, to foment the rebellion against the czar's forces.

00:34:02.340 Why?

00:34:03.220 So that, so it would weaken Russia.

00:34:06.220 Germany was at war with Russia.

00:34:07.580 Sure, yeah.

00:34:08.300 Hitler was very much against communism.

00:34:09.980 He was right though, when he said that communism was a threat that was going to destroy Western civilization.

00:34:15.240 So of course there was a lot of disinfo injected into society that was very anti-Hitler.

00:34:21.580 I'm sure you've looked into some World War II theories.

00:34:24.860 Oh yeah.

00:34:25.560 Well, that's a whole nother story, but the same kind of operations were run in World War II.

00:34:31.320 And I'm talking about World War I now.

00:34:33.320 It was, it was 1917.

00:34:34.220 So anyway, so that's, that's how, uh, Lennon ended up back in Russia, but the Germans helped him get there.

00:34:43.760 Uh, Munzenberg accompanied Lennon to the train station to get on that train that was sealed up and said, I believe they went to Finland before they went to Russia.

00:34:55.360 Sweden, actually.

00:34:56.140 Well, that was, Munzenberg was not a lot, the Germans wouldn't let him on the train because he was German and they, uh, he wouldn't get on either because he knew that he was wanted in Germany.

00:35:07.960 But the point is that that he was in Lennon's inner circle.

00:35:12.220 So he stayed in Switzerland.

00:35:14.980 Um, Lennon went back, uh, fomented the, the rebellion, started the revolution and then set up the, uh, they were, they're called the Bolsheviks.

00:35:24.780 The Bolsheviks set up the communist government there.

00:35:29.180 Uh, Munzenberg never went back, never went and lived in Moscow or lived in, in Russia, but he was in constant covert communication with them and overt.

00:35:41.980 He became a, an overt member of the, of the common term of the communist international.

00:35:48.100 He was in charge of what, what today we would call PR or, uh, or communications.

00:35:53.480 But what it was, it was overt propaganda.

00:35:56.940 He put out several, um, his, his cover job in, in, uh, the common term was, uh, he ran their film company and he put out several communist magazines, Russia, Russian life and things like that.

00:36:15.180 Uh, that, that, that's, that was his, his, um, his job for public consumption, but what he, his covert job was running these covert influence operations.

00:36:27.140 And although I only focus on the influence operations against the United States, he was also running them against all of, of the, um, all of the free world.

00:36:38.200 The Western Europe, the Western Europe, all of Europe, uh, Australia, China, uh, anywhere that there was a, uh, a free people, um, Munzenberg had operate covert influence operations running there.

00:36:54.620 I, I just focus on the United States.

00:36:56.520 So that was, Munzenberg was there at the beginning of the USSR.

00:37:02.420 He was tied in at the highest level.

00:37:05.420 He, he was a friend of Lenin.

00:37:08.340 Um, he knew all of the, the operators and there's no good documentary evidence of exactly, uh, what he did because the Russians will not release it.

00:37:22.460 The KGB has opened up its archives, but that was a very controlled opening of the archives.

00:37:29.700 They only let Westerners see what they wanted them to see.

00:37:34.220 They have kept hidden the vast majority of their archives, including the whole, there was a section in the Comintern that is pretty clear ran the covert operations.

00:37:50.340 That section has not been opened at all.

00:37:53.600 So the point is that Munzenberg was working within the Comintern at the highest levels, and he was working with all of the security and intelligence operators in the early, from the beginning, the first days of the USSR until he died during World War II.

00:38:17.360 How deeply do you think KGB agents infiltrated the U.S. government and possibly even the CIA later?

00:38:24.400 Well, you know, if you go back to starting with Munzenberg, he was able to, well, in Munzenberg's time, he had a couple of contemporaries.

00:38:44.320 And this is one of the biggest contributions to intelligence history that I made in my research was I identified one agent, one operator by the name of Alexander Gumberg.

00:38:58.380 And Gumberg was very much like Munzenberg, but he started out at a much lower level.

00:39:08.860 He was a Russian, native-born Russian immigrant to the United States when he was about 10 or 11.

00:39:18.020 When the revolution came in 1917, Gumberg was working for a Menshevik newspaper, a communist socialist newspaper in New York City.

00:39:34.340 Trotsky, Leon Trotsky, who was another one of the original group of leaders of the Bolshevik revolution, visited New York and worked at that newspaper with Gumberg.

00:39:49.700 And when Trotsky went back in the summer of 1917, went back to Russia to, he was called back by Lenin to take part in the planning.

00:40:04.240 Gumberg took a train from New York across Canada, a boat to Vladivostok, and then the train across Siberia to St. Petersburg.

00:40:16.100 Gumberg, to take part in the revolution with Trotsky and the others, he immediately became part of the inner circle of the Bolshevik.

00:40:28.800 He was from the beginning.

00:40:30.600 Gumberg, when Americans met him, they thought he was American because he had grown up in the United States.

00:40:37.340 He spoke unaccented English.

00:40:39.980 He also spoke perfect Russian.

00:40:41.580 Gumberg, what I discovered is that Gumberg recruited and ran all of the official American representatives in St. Petersburg during the revolution.

00:41:00.520 It was a very, it's a very, I go into it in not great detail and willing accomplices, but I do talk about it.

00:41:07.000 And in fact, I'm working on a book specifically on Gumberg right now because it's fascinating.

00:41:11.940 But it turned out that the official American embassy was shut out of communications with the Bolsheviks as they seized power.

00:41:26.400 They, the president, Woodrow Wilson, and the State Department communicated with the Bolsheviks through a representative of the Red Cross by the name of Raymond Robbins.

00:41:39.080 And Gumberg recruited Robbins and was his, Robbins called him his translator, but he was actually his, his handler.

00:41:50.100 He was, he was a, a, a, the Russian intelligence handler for Robbins.

00:41:56.280 He allowed Robbins, he, he, he, he facilitated meetings with Lenin and other high-level Bolsheviks for Robbins and controlled the image and, and the, uh, what, what Robbins thought, thought that he knew.

00:42:15.540 So that is, that is, that is a, that's became, Gumberg's role there became the, the template for how, uh, communists controlled American and, and European and Westerners' views of their country.

00:42:30.280 They always had a, they always had a handler translator, and that handler translator is always an espionage, uh, intelligence officer.

00:42:39.380 So, Gumberg, in, in that, in that period of the revolution, um, ran and handled Robbins, who was America's, uh, highest representative at the time,

00:42:52.580 and, and who went on his, the rest of his life, he maintained a friendship with Gumberg and demonstrated for, uh, the United States to, to, to, to, he supported, uh, the Soviet Union for the rest of his life.

00:43:09.480 So he wanted the United States to recognize the Soviet Union diplomatically, which we didn't do for about 10 or 15 years afterward.

00:43:18.480 So, Gumberg not only ran Robbins, but he ran, uh, Senator Bora, uh, from Idaho, um, the whole family of La Follette's, who were early progressive movement, um, leaders from Wisconsin, um, uh, governor, shoot, I can't remember, from Indiana.

00:43:43.140 Um, anybody, um, anybody, any high-level person who came to St. Petersburg and then Moscow in the first year of the revolution,

00:43:53.380 Gumberg was their guide translator, and he recruited them.

00:43:57.440 He came back to the United States with, um, with Robbins when Robbins came back in, in late 1918, in the spring-summer of 1918, sorry, uh, and he ended up working on Wall Street.

00:44:13.140 Uh, and through the entire, first, he, he was the representative of the, uh, uh, uh, the cover organization for, for the Soviets called Amtord,

00:44:22.920 which the KGB used until it was dissolved in the 50s, uh, as a cover organization.

00:44:28.560 So, the point is that from the first days of the Soviet Union, they, the, the KGB and its predecessors, the Cheka, had infiltrated our government at the highest levels and controlled the message that the American public and the American officials received, uh, uh, about the Soviet Union. 0.76

00:44:53.680 So, that was a long, a long answer to your question, but there's a lot more there, too.

00:45:00.040 I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, summarizing.

00:45:01.840 But the bottom line is, they ate our lunch from the very beginning.

00:45:07.300 We were these innocents abroad.

00:45:09.600 Raymond Robbins was a pitiful, emotional wreck.

00:45:14.560 Uh, he, he, he was, he was a social worker that, that made good, good political connections and didn't know anything about Russia, didn't know anything about foreigners when he, he ended up with the Red Cross in, in St. Petersburg.

00:45:29.920 They put up against him this ultra-sophisticated man of the world, Alexander Gumberg, who just totally manipulated him.

00:45:39.640 And every other American that he came into contact with.

00:45:44.780 So, they've been doing that from the very beginning, and they continued, uh, their, their worst enemy was themselves.

00:45:52.680 When Stalin took power, he mistrusted anybody who was, who had contact with foreigners, and especially Americans.

00:46:02.220 And he ended up calling back his KGB staff, who were in, excuse me, in the United States, and murdering them all. 0.89

00:46:10.100 Great. Nice guy.

00:46:11.760 He took all, all of, and in fact, he, he hunted down.

00:46:15.120 That's how Munzenberg died.

00:46:16.760 Munzenberg finally quit.

00:46:18.980 He defected, but they, the KGB stayed after him.

00:46:22.680 He defected, as in he stopped working for them, but he, he never, um, he never was, uh, uh, was, was debriefed or no, no Western intelligence agency was ever able to get from him a, uh, a version of what he did.

00:46:41.920 He was still a true believer, but he disliked what Stalin was doing.

00:46:46.020 Uh, he was finally hunted down as, as the, um, as the Nazis invaded France in 40, I believe, 40 or 41.

00:46:56.860 And the KGB caught up with him and he was found, his body was found hanging from a tree by a wire.

00:47:04.180 Um, he, he, he had been in an internment camp when he escaped.

00:47:08.360 And, uh, it, it looks like he was murdered by, by the KGB.

00:47:13.960 Now, if we switch gears a little bit and look at Hollywood today, you just have to watch one TV or movie to know that it's crawling with communists.

00:47:21.860 It's, I worked there.

00:47:22.680 I've had a lot of experiences.

00:47:24.160 So tell us about the Jewess by the name of Dorothy Parker and what her role was.

00:47:30.180 Well, Dorothy Parker was like, like I, I mentioned earlier, um, the, the soccer one Vanzetti. 0.56

00:47:37.640 That was Munzenberg's first cover, uh, operation in New York.

00:47:42.120 At the time, uh, Parker was a, um, was a, a writer in New York city and she joined the soccer one and Vanzetti, um, front organization.

00:47:57.160 She ended up joining, being a member of dozens, if not, if not scores of Munzenberg front organization.

00:48:06.960 And it's, it's, it's, my, my professional opinion is that she was, she was recruited and she knew what she was doing.

00:48:15.700 Um, she's the case study that I use as a, for the penetration of Hollywood. 1.00

00:48:22.200 Munzenberg and Otto Katz, via Otto Katz, set up scores of, um, of front organizations, of, uh, anti-normal American front organizations.

00:48:36.960 In Hollywood, uh, many, many European refugees showed up in Hollywood and they were instrumental in, in all of these organizations.

00:48:50.400 And all of them were exactly what we think of as, uh, PC today.

00:48:57.820 Um, they, they were based on the idea that America is a racist, sexist, homophobic, foreigner, hating, et cetera.

00:49:06.960 Every single one of them was anti-fascist or women's rights or supporting, uh, Ethiopians or something. 0.73

00:49:16.360 But the message was normal America is bad.

00:49:19.920 Uh, Dorothy Parker was active, vocal, public, outspoken, uh, very much sort of, sort of like, uh, Michael Moore is today.

00:49:32.880 Uh, she, she pushed, we didn't call it political correctness back then, but it was, in effect, she was pushing the PC progressive line that America is really, really bad.

00:49:45.220 Um, she, she's a, a perfect example.

00:49:47.720 And, uh, I, I, I uncovered her in my research and, uh, she, she deserves a book of her own, uh, for, for all of her Munzenberg activities. 0.79

00:49:58.620 But she is just, I, I just used the, these case studies as just examples.

00:50:03.520 She's just one of dozens, hundreds, thousands of willing accomplices in Hollywood, uh, and education, academia, and the media who, who, uh, were exposed to and willingly imbibed this anti-normal American message and, uh, created political correctness.

00:50:26.860 And, and, and, and, and many feminists revere her, uh, somehow they see her as some sort of symbol, but in effect, what she is, is a, an America, a normal America hater. 1.00

00:50:48.420 Oh yeah. 0.98

00:50:49.180 And, you know, and, and, and interesting sort of aside about, you know, I got into the research, looking at these, these people, they're all really pitiful, wretched losers. 0.97

00:51:01.020 Dorothy Parker was a bitter, hateful, um, she, she, uh, drunk. 1.00

00:51:09.020 She was responsible for, in some way, just the death of virtually every man who ever became involved with her. 0.95

00:51:17.520 Interesting.

00:51:17.940 Her father, her father to a couple of husbands, to boyfriends, um, she, she was just, she was bad news in every way.

00:51:29.300 And, uh, it's, her, her, her life story is just, it's quite disgusting when you look at it with sort of an unbiased eye.

00:51:40.540 Well, it's also, it's also like Karl Marx. 0.90

00:51:42.780 I mean, he lived in dirt and he was a slob and his children were starving. 1.00

00:51:48.140 Yeah, but, well, it boils down to the piece, she progresses. 0.94

00:51:51.740 It's all about, they, they are, they love humanity, but they hate humans.

00:51:56.720 Yeah.

00:51:57.000 And, and that's, that's exactly, uh, Dorothy Parker is a great example of that.

00:52:03.700 So, yeah, she, she's a, she, um, was, was at the forefront of the penetration of Hollywood and it continued, it's, the, the, the Munson Berg payload and message was planted at that time in the twenties in Hollywood.

00:52:19.800 And it took root and grew and spread until today.

00:52:25.540 It is the, it is politically correct.

00:52:29.380 Progressivism is the religion of Hollywood.

00:52:32.040 If you do not tow the line, the PC progressive line, you will be destroyed.

00:52:37.640 You, you will not have a career.

00:52:39.820 You will not have, you will not be able to work there.

00:52:43.040 Every movie has to, look at, look at all of the entertainment, uh, whether it's movies or television. 0.71

00:52:48.700 It all racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic, imperialist, capitalist hellhole, and it must be changed. 1.00

00:52:58.000 Any, anything to do with business, businessmen have to be idiots. 1.00

00:53:02.780 If it's white people, they have to be racist. 1.00

00:53:06.360 Uh, or the flip side is the, uh, of, of all that, the anti. 0.90

00:53:12.400 Because what political, political correctness is about being anti.

00:53:16.180 It's anti-normal America.

00:53:18.700 Yeah.

00:53:19.100 Which if you look at, you know, who created, who I call normal Americans are white Anglo-Saxon 0.93

00:53:25.940 Protestant straight males.

00:53:29.080 Mm-hmm.

00:53:29.480 That's who created America and people who loved them.

00:53:32.540 You know, the women were there. 1.00

00:53:34.300 Women were extremely important in the creation of America, but it was the white Anglo-Saxon 0.99

00:53:39.500 Protestant males.

00:53:41.000 That's, that's normal America.

00:53:43.360 Yep.

00:53:44.820 PC progressivism must hate every piece of what a normal American is.

00:53:52.280 White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant, or Christian, um, uh... 0.75

00:53:58.920 Straight white male.

00:53:59.960 You get it the worst. 0.96

00:54:00.820 Straight white males. 0.71

00:54:01.740 Yeah.

00:54:02.180 Yeah, straight white males.

00:54:03.480 That's right.

00:54:04.120 That, that, Luxembourg could have said that, but Luxembourg had too much class and, and

00:54:08.600 savvy.

00:54:09.200 He never said it right out, but it was the message that he inserted.

00:54:13.200 And that's, it's what has, it's what became political correctness.

00:54:16.640 So, and the same thing, if you look at academia, uh, which is, you know, uh, uh, higher education,

00:54:24.680 colleges, and universities, that too is the religion.

00:54:27.980 PC progressivism is the religion.

00:54:30.560 Hate America.

00:54:31.440 It's nothing about, like, I, I started off just defining what is PC.

00:54:36.060 It's not about being sensitive.

00:54:38.540 It's not about not hurting people's feelings.

00:54:41.100 It is about destroying and denigrating normal America.

00:54:46.500 It is the religion and academia.

00:54:48.900 It is that given in education, which is kindergarten to 12th grade, you cannot celebrate normal Americans. 0.65

00:54:57.720 You, everything has to be, have an asterisk by it.

00:55:02.060 If you talk about George Washington, you have to say, well, he was also a slave owner and he 0.79

00:55:06.440 was bad. 0.61

00:55:06.960 Um, so instead let's, let's celebrate George Washington Carter, who was black and he was

00:55:13.580 good.

00:55:14.460 You know, there's no, no negatives about people who are not normal Americans, who were not

00:55:20.960 part of the founding fathers.

00:55:22.680 There, everything's good about them.

00:55:24.700 So that's, that's K to 12th.

00:55:27.220 And the same in the media today is everything has to, has to denigrate or demean normal America.

00:55:35.420 And that is what politically correct progressivism is.

00:55:38.760 It is the opponent to normal America.

00:55:43.040 And it will, it will continue to eat away the heart of this country until conservatives

00:55:50.020 and normal Americans realize exactly what our opponent's belief system is and accept it,

00:55:58.120 that that's what they believe.

00:55:59.920 Only then can we begin to counteract it.

00:56:02.260 I wish these conservatives would start thinking with more of a conspiratorial mind too, and

00:56:07.700 not be such warmongers and trust everything they hear on mainstream media either.

00:56:13.400 That's one of the problems.

00:56:14.840 They're also being programmed.

00:56:17.380 Well, they are, uh, they, they too are products of this culture.

00:56:24.040 Yeah.

00:56:24.240 Uh, the, the cultural transmission has been controlled, but they, they know that it's

00:56:30.800 not that, that the, the media, academia, and Hollywood are lying, but yet they still

00:56:37.440 are constricted, especially politicians.

00:56:40.180 They're, they're constrained by PC progressivism.

00:56:43.620 You can't speak out without being destroyed.

00:56:46.640 I mean, look what happens to anybody.

00:56:47.980 Anybody, anybody who speaks out and tells the truth, uh, straight white male need to grow 0.97

00:56:54.620 some balls and start doing it because that's the only thing that's going to change this. 0.97

00:56:58.840 You know, that's exactly what I say is that, you know, you, you first, you got to have to 0.75

00:57:04.300 accept reality and, you know, you say that we should be more conspiratorial.

00:57:08.200 I don't like to use that, that, uh, that terminology because it sounds funky, but we need, what I say

00:57:14.620 is we need to be realistic.

00:57:16.220 You have to realize this is reality.

00:57:19.460 The reality is the, the Willie Monson Bird created an operation whose goal, the goal of

00:57:28.680 which was to destroy American exceptionalism.

00:57:32.680 It worked.

00:57:34.500 It worked.

00:57:35.720 And that's where we are today.

00:57:37.320 Our culture does not celebrate American exceptionalism.

00:57:41.920 American exceptionalism is still there, but it is denigrated and, uh, and denied by politically

00:57:48.700 correct progressives.

00:57:49.960 We normal Americans and people who believe in America, you know, you don't have to be a

00:57:57.760 straight white male to believe in America.

00:57:59.920 You don't have to be a Christian to believe in America and to, to love what it is.

00:58:04.360 We have always accepted all people from all over the world who are willing to assimilate

00:58:11.020 into the American dream, the American culture.

00:58:14.920 We always have.

00:58:15.840 They've come from all over the world to join us.

00:58:18.320 We all need to stand up now to politically correct progressivism and say, stop.

00:58:25.320 No, this America is not bad.

00:58:28.080 America is the greatest country in the history of the world.

00:58:30.700 And we can continue to be, if we stop your destructive, uh, message of denigrating and denying our exceptionalism.

00:58:41.700 So cultural Marxists, they've initiated this immigration and multiculturalism programs in

00:58:47.860 Western nations and Western nations only.

00:58:50.240 So what is the link to PC progressivism and multiculturalism in your view?

00:58:56.220 Well, you know, cultural Marxism is just a, a, a, uh, terminology that people have come

00:59:03.520 up with who didn't understand what was happening around them.

00:59:07.320 Cultural Marxism is simply the overt expression of Munzenberg's covert influence operation. 1.00

00:59:15.720 America is a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, capitalist, imperialist hellhole. 0.98

00:59:23.580 That's Munzenberg's message that he inserted covertly. 1.00

00:59:27.600 That's exactly what people call cultural Marxism.

00:59:31.540 Cultural Marxism doesn't mean anything.

00:59:34.220 It's a, it's a, people seeing something happening and giving a term to it that, that they think,

00:59:41.620 uh, that, that they think describes what they're seeing.

00:59:44.960 But it's not what they were seeing.

00:59:46.820 So when you say cultural Marxism, I call it PC progressivism, the results of Munzenberg's 0.96

00:59:52.380 operation.

00:59:53.060 It's the exact same thing.

00:59:55.140 So multiculturalism is simply the denigration of American exceptionalism. 0.62

01:00:01.380 It's, it is a, uh, an expression of Munzenberg's payload.

01:00:08.060 So it's the exact same thing.

01:00:09.480 So some people say, because we have a lot of people that are no strangers to conspiracy

01:00:15.400 here, and they'll say, hmm, one CIA, always CIA.

01:00:18.580 So do you think people are suspicious of your motives since you're ex-CIA?

01:00:21.980 Well, uh, why don't you go, go to Bing and enter Quisby purged CIA.

01:00:31.400 I've been purged.

01:00:33.480 The, uh, John Brennan, I, I, I wrote a lot about, uh, about intelligence.

01:00:39.960 And, um, I, I wrote for Breitbart, uh, FrontPageMag, uh, all of the conservative, Newsmax, all of

01:00:49.420 the big conservative websites.

01:00:51.360 I wrote during the, the early war on terror from, from about 2004 until, uh, for several

01:01:02.040 years.

01:01:02.540 And I, I wrote about the Obama administration and, uh, its, um, cronies, uh, specifically

01:01:13.500 John Brennan, who, uh, is now the director of the CIA.

01:01:18.180 Um, when I, I, I had been doing, uh, contracts for the agency and when Brennan came in, he hunted

01:01:28.720 me down and within two weeks I'd been purged from the CIA.

01:01:32.540 Uh, yeah.

01:01:34.460 So, uh, the, the entire federal power structure is controlled by politically correct progressives

01:01:44.020 and they are on, it's, it's, it's Stalinist.

01:01:49.820 I mean, it's not quite Stalin called you back when he purged you, you put a bullet in your 0.99

01:01:54.800 head.

01:01:55.140 Uh, the, uh, the, right now that's not happening yet, but the, uh, the PC progressives who are

01:02:01.660 in charge of Obama's handlers and, and the rest of the, the federal government are purging

01:02:10.040 those who are correct to them or who, uh, don't toe the line.

01:02:16.200 So basically CIA and the government, they're pushing this politically correct agenda.

01:02:20.180 Uh, a hundred percent, a hundred and ten percent that's, that is, that politically correct

01:02:28.960 progressivism is the religion of the federal government now and that requires destroying

01:02:35.980 normal Americans.

01:02:37.380 Look at, look at, look at the IRS, what happened with IRS and Tea Party.

01:02:42.520 Um, look at Benghazi, what's happening with Benghazi where, uh, it's, it's, it's not clear

01:02:50.600 exactly what was happening, but it's very clear that no one is speaking up and telling the truth

01:02:56.920 about it.

01:02:57.480 Um, and people have, uh, in the state department and others have talked about, uh, their, their

01:03:04.300 careers being threatened.

01:03:06.840 And, um, so take it for what it's worth, but I can tell you that I'm telling the truth and

01:03:14.240 I'm working, working for myself.

01:03:16.620 So yeah, what do you make of the U S meddling in the East and then giving so much money to

01:03:21.020 the state of Israel?

01:03:22.060 I mean, if we look, the Zionists are disproportionately represented in Senate, Congress, Supreme Court, 0.72

01:03:28.140 foreign policy, media, education, entertainment, banking.

01:03:30.960 I mean, you name it.

01:03:31.940 And Karl Marx and Leon Trotsky, they were Jews. 0.99

01:03:34.580 So what do you make of this?

01:03:36.800 Well, what I make of it is I, I greatly admire the Jewish race.

01:03:42.280 They are doing exactly what we should, Americans should be doing.

01:03:46.840 And that is aggressively pursuing their own interests.

01:03:52.060 Sure.

01:03:52.320 Yeah.

01:03:52.540 Europeans should be pursuing their interests.

01:03:54.520 Yeah.

01:03:54.960 We should do the Americans.

01:03:56.760 We should do the exact same thing.

01:03:58.860 We should pursue our own interests and use others as we can use them.

01:04:04.980 That's what, that's what the CIA is for is, is to, uh, is to covertly manipulate others

01:04:13.580 for American interests.

01:04:15.160 However, it has now been perverted and it is covertly manipulating others for politically

01:04:21.740 correct progressive interests.

01:04:23.400 So anyway, the point is, Israel has, has a fantastic operation of manipulating others 1.00

01:04:31.040 for their own self-interest.

01:04:33.420 You know, and God, God bless them.

01:04:35.460 They are, wow.

01:04:37.260 How powerful are they?

01:04:39.260 There's a small minority and yet they, they work together for their own interests.

01:04:46.240 Yeah.

01:04:46.440 I think us Europeans, we haven't been such collectivists, but we need to start doing so

01:04:50.780 to fight back to some of this.

01:04:52.680 My one issue here though, with a lot of these Zionists is they go around to Europe and they're 1.00

01:04:57.680 here and they're promoting multiculturalism and internationalism in the West.

01:05:01.460 But they insist that Israel remain a racially pure nation enclave for Jews.

01:05:06.780 So it's, it's the double standard there that drives me nuts.

01:05:10.360 Well, the thing is with any kind of, uh, PC progressivism, you can't get caught up in calling 0.97

01:05:20.540 them hypocrites. 0.98

01:05:21.700 Of course they're hypocrites. 1.00

01:05:23.940 Everything they do is based on a lie. 1.00

01:05:27.480 Everything is a lie. 0.97

01:05:29.040 So it's not just, uh, it's not just any one group that is hypocritical. 0.99

01:05:34.680 It is every PC progressive policy, belief, everything is a hypocritical lie. 0.94

01:05:45.840 The whole, the entire belief system is based on lies and unreality.

01:05:52.740 I see too, that these Marxists are really seeking to destroy anything that's nationalistic

01:05:58.380 or sovereign.

01:05:59.240 Do you think they, they have an agenda to bring in a global dictatorship?

01:06:04.640 Well, you know, I don't think that they're, at first they're not Marxists.

01:06:10.120 There, there are virtually no Marxists left.

01:06:13.240 There's very, very few. 0.97

01:06:14.440 Anybody who is a Marxist is a total wacko. 0.99

01:06:17.740 Anybody who is, uh, overtly Marxist is, is, is a total wacko. 0.99

01:06:24.880 I think so.

01:06:25.380 Uh, the, the, uh, what we have to worry about are the ones who are, uh, anti-capitalists.

01:06:36.340 Well, it boils down to sort of crony capitalism.

01:06:39.420 They believe in crony capitalism.

01:06:41.300 Well, let's get in charge and we will, we will, uh, dole out the, the, uh, business to

01:06:48.860 our bunnies and we'll, and we'll destroy our enemies because that's not Marxism.

01:06:53.480 That's what Marxism ends up being, but they're not Marxists.

01:06:57.040 They're PC progressives.

01:06:58.300 They hate, they hate the American capitalist system unless they got their fingers in the

01:07:03.300 pie and then they love it.

01:07:04.920 They keep calling it free market though, which is not what this is.

01:07:09.400 Well, I mean, the, the ones who PC progressives don't call it free market.

01:07:13.880 You know, they'll, they'll talk about, well, we need to, uh, we need to do things that are

01:07:18.760 fair and that are, uh, that are, that are for everyone.

01:07:23.500 But, uh, no, crony capitalism is, is a perversion of the free market and that's where we're at

01:07:30.400 under, under this regime.

01:07:32.220 I know you're an expert also in Islamic extremism.

01:07:35.720 So what do you make of that?

01:07:37.060 Is it a real threat?

01:07:38.220 And why is Europe just, why are the gates just being open to Muslim colonization? 1.00

01:07:44.860 Well, Europe is very different from the United States, uh, Europe, um, the, the places where

01:07:52.180 they now have problems with, with, uh, with Islamic extremism and Islamic minorities, Muslim

01:07:59.680 minorities, those were places that had, uh, colonies that had historically had colonies,

01:08:07.240 uh, Muslim colonies. 0.98

01:08:09.960 France, uh, owned all of North Africa.

01:08:13.620 Um, Britain had, had Muslim colonies in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh.

01:08:20.900 All that's where their problems are coming.

01:08:23.460 Sweden never had colonies, but they're, they're getting hit the hardest up there.

01:08:27.660 I don't know if you've been following or watching any news.

01:08:30.080 Sweden?

01:08:31.420 Yeah.

01:08:32.160 Oh yeah.

01:08:32.640 They have, they probably have the highest Muslim population per capita in Sweden right

01:08:37.300 now.

01:08:37.500 The little, little country, Sweden.

01:08:39.820 Hmm.

01:08:40.440 That's, I, I, I know that they have some there, but I don't think it's that, it's that large.

01:08:46.220 I think that it's very vocal.

01:08:47.080 Oh, I, I, I live there also.

01:08:49.280 I go part-time and it's, uh, it's really bad.

01:08:52.980 It's very vocal.

01:08:54.040 What, their problem is they are, they are, have totally bought into PC progressivism.

01:09:02.360 That is the denigration of traditional culture.

01:09:06.880 You know, PC progressivism can, can go to any Western European culture.

01:09:11.680 You know, normal Swedish is now denigrated and, and put down.

01:09:18.100 But, so, so get back to your original question is how does this tie into, to, to, uh, Muslims

01:09:26.420 and, and Islamic extremism in, in Western countries?

01:09:30.080 And the way I describe it is, it is sort of like an opportunistic infection.

01:09:36.320 If your body's immune system is destroyed, then it, your body becomes, uh, subject to any

01:09:45.820 infection that passes through a national, a nation's immune system is its culture, is

01:09:54.200 it's every nation believes that they are unique, that they are strong, and that they have something

01:10:00.520 that's worth celebrating and, and passing down to the next generation.

01:10:06.060 But if that immune system is destroyed, if your national identity is denigrated, is put

01:10:13.960 down, is, uh, is, is, is, if the culture passes on the message that we're all a bunch

01:10:21.960 of racist haters, then your immune system is destroyed.

01:10:25.840 And now it's, it is very easy for different infections to, to take root in that, uh, in the

01:10:34.300 destroyed immune system.

01:10:36.060 And that's what's happening with, uh, with Islamic extremism in the West is that we've lost 0.98

01:10:42.120 our, our, um, our, our veneration, our appreciation, our, uh, our ancient ways, our ancient European

01:10:51.900 culture.

01:10:53.520 Exactly.

01:10:54.420 We've lost that.

01:10:55.880 So that's the immune system.

01:10:57.420 The immune system is gone.

01:10:58.760 So now it can be infected by anything.

01:11:01.260 And, and that's what's happening.

01:11:02.780 You know, you add to that, the, the history of colonization and bringing the, your, your

01:11:08.640 ex-colonists back, or in Germany, it was migrant workers, the Turks, that kind of thing.

01:11:15.620 Um, and that's what's happening.

01:11:17.720 Well, it's, it's just a shame though, cause they go there and then they just sit on welfare

01:11:20.480 their whole life.

01:11:22.180 Yep.

01:11:22.920 Yep.

01:11:23.600 And we, but the United States, our problem is not that.

01:11:28.060 Our problem is we're seeing it right now at the Mexican border. 0.72

01:11:32.060 Oh yeah.

01:11:32.580 And it, that, that invasion is just as much a, uh, result of our destroyed immune system

01:11:41.960 as Islamic extremism in Sweden or France.

01:11:46.680 It's, it's just, we just have a different, uh, opportunistic infection. 0.87

01:11:51.020 Yeah, it's, it's horrible.

01:11:52.700 What's, I've been traveling around some of those Southern border States and I just, I

01:11:55.820 gasp, I gasp.

01:11:57.580 It's turning into a third world country. 0.92

01:12:00.120 That's right.

01:12:01.240 I thought the whole point of this country was that our ancestors worked to be above that.

01:12:06.260 They worked their asses off to give us what we have today.

01:12:09.920 And now we're just handing it all away.

01:12:13.480 That's what PC progressivism is about.

01:12:16.180 Destroy normal America.

01:12:17.640 They haven't quite fought it through yet.

01:12:21.500 Yeah, so that's what I think.

01:12:22.620 So once it's destroyed, then what, what are they going to have?

01:12:24.860 They're just going to be these overlords.

01:12:26.640 There is no, there is no plan.

01:12:29.300 There is no plan. 1.00

01:12:30.700 The only plan, all they believe in is America sucks. 1.00

01:12:35.020 Normal America sucks. 1.00

01:12:36.920 There's no, and then we will create utopia. 1.00

01:12:39.980 They're not utopians.

01:12:41.580 They're haters.

01:12:42.880 They're anti.

01:12:43.620 The PC progressives are anti.

01:12:46.340 They're against.

01:12:47.640 They're not for anything.

01:12:48.760 That's why people who call them communists or Marxists or socialists totally misunderstand them.

01:12:55.780 And that's why we get our lunch eaten.

01:12:58.660 We are conservatives and normal Americans who don't understand this belief system are just destroyed when we deal with them.

01:13:06.700 Yeah, we're about building up, not tearing down.

01:13:10.080 That's right.

01:13:11.020 They're all about destroying, and then, you know, they're short-term.

01:13:15.760 They want to feast on the crumbs that fall from the table when the cake is crushed.

01:13:21.540 But they don't think about, well, what about tomorrow?

01:13:24.220 You know, how are we going to put bread on the table tomorrow?

01:13:27.060 They don't care.

01:13:27.900 It's not part of their belief system. 1.00

01:13:29.960 It's just those hating white males must be destroyed. 0.98

01:13:35.320 A couple more questions for you before we round up. 0.97

01:13:38.360 Well, as someone who specialized in covert ops and counterintelligence, have you thought about tactics to reclaim our Western countries?

01:13:46.640 Oh, absolutely.

01:13:47.840 Yeah, I mean, I would, you know, if somebody would come to me with $10 million tomorrow, I could start an operation immediately that would start using these exact same tactics.

01:14:01.160 Well, that's what amazes me, because on the right side, conservatives, there's a lot of money out there.

01:14:05.920 So why isn't it being channeled into the war here, into the war that's going on in our country?

01:14:11.500 That's why I wrote, that's why I wrote willing accomplices, is the reason that it's not is because we don't, we, conservatives and normal Americans, do not understand what the war is.

01:14:27.040 We refuse to open our eyes and deal with reality.

01:14:33.180 Yeah.

01:14:33.820 That's why, if we, that's why if people, if conservatives, if normal Americans would grasp the message of willing accomplices and realize who our opponents are and what their belief system is, then they would be ready to, to do whatever, whatever needs to be done to counteract them.

01:14:57.260 But they're not, people cannot stand, normal Americans are, the whole idea of a secret operation is just anathema to them.

01:15:10.560 They can't stand to think about it.

01:15:12.560 They want to think that, well, yeah, when you look at the last election, when Obama ran against Romney and McCain, what did Romney and McCain say about Obama?

01:15:21.960 Well, we know he loves the country and he'll do a good job and we'll support him.

01:15:29.020 What?

01:15:30.340 He's a neocon, by the way.

01:15:33.480 All of them are.

01:15:34.600 Yeah.

01:15:34.860 All of them are, you know?

01:15:36.100 So, so what you got is that is our leadership.

01:15:39.620 That is a conservative leadership.

01:15:41.480 If that's what they're saying, then, uh, you know, how, how can, how can we do anything against, they, they, they fundamentally misunderstand who our opponents are and what their belief system is.

01:15:55.540 So, uh, until they do, there's nothing that can be done when they do.

01:16:00.780 I'm, I'm ready.

01:16:02.540 I'm ready.

01:16:02.940 It's good to know.

01:16:05.260 So how do you think the progressives are going to respond once their sinister plans are known to more conservatives and Americans?

01:16:13.480 The way they always do.

01:16:15.280 And it's the name of my publishing company.

01:16:17.640 It's Andemka.

01:16:19.280 And that stands for admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter accusations.

01:16:26.960 That's how they respond to being, to, to being exposed.

01:16:31.560 And it comes from, where?

01:16:33.480 Willie Munzenberg.

01:16:35.000 That's the way that he dealt with exposure.

01:16:37.860 Is you admit nothing, you deny everything, and you make counter accusations.

01:16:42.400 It's actually the signature of, of a PC progressive.

01:16:45.880 Anytime they're exposed, they always do.

01:16:48.660 Andemka.

01:16:50.080 So that's how they will always respond whenever they're, whenever they're exposed.

01:16:54.400 Every time.

01:16:55.660 I see, I see a lot of conservatives and people on the right.

01:16:59.120 They don't trust Russia.

01:17:00.120 They still seem to think that Russia still has a communist agenda, but they're completely off base.

01:17:05.620 It seems like America is more the Soviet-style bad guy now, don't you think?

01:17:11.060 Oh, absolutely.

01:17:12.320 It absolutely is.

01:17:13.380 Look at how Putin is demonized.

01:17:15.080 And people are fearful that he wants to export communism when we already have it.

01:17:20.560 Yep.

01:17:21.460 Exactly.

01:17:22.420 Exactly.

01:17:22.860 And again, that's, excuse me, normal Americans cannot wrap their head around that our culture has been destroyed.

01:17:33.480 They still, I'm in my mid-50s.

01:17:37.660 People my age, conservatives, still believe that America that we live in today is the same America that we grew up in.

01:17:46.040 You know, they cannot, you know, reality is too difficult for them to grasp.

01:17:52.020 They cannot wrap their head around the fact that normal, traditional America is gone, and we live in a PC progressive world, country, that is, it's upside down from what they thought, what they think they're living in.

01:18:11.220 So they, they, they look back fondly on the Cold War days when Russia was a, was the, the hated enemy, and they were, you know, they were, they were out to destroy us. 0.80

01:18:25.440 And they, they did.

01:18:27.580 In fact, it was a Russian communist operation that destroyed us.

01:18:33.840 It just took a lot longer than they, than they expected it to.

01:18:36.700 So, anyway, that's all, that, we, we could do a whole nother week on just that subject.

01:18:43.480 Hey, I saw on your website, you had a link, I thought, speaking of politically correct insanity, you linked to a study that said, smartness is false and oppressive.

01:18:52.640 Oh, and so is whiteness, by the way.

01:18:55.140 Of course it is.

01:18:56.180 Of course it is.

01:18:57.880 Straight white males who strive and study hard are haters.

01:19:04.480 Clearly.

01:19:04.880 That's right out of Munchenberg's mouth.

01:19:08.600 It's exactly, and that's PC progressivism today.

01:19:12.740 Kent, please give out your website details and tell us all about the books you have available.

01:19:17.400 Sure, yeah.

01:19:18.920 My, my, my website is Kent Clisby, K-E-N-T-C-L-I-Z like zebra, E like boy, E dot com.

01:19:29.160 And there you can find my profile and links to pretty much all of the articles that, that I've written in the last 10 years or so.

01:19:40.700 Uh, that's under media.

01:19:42.360 Uh, there's also, um, uh, links to, uh, to my books, um, and my book, Willing Accomplices, W-I-L-L-I-N-G-A-C-C-O-M-P-L-I-C-E-S dot com.

01:20:01.980 Uh, has its own website, willingaccomplices.com.

01:20:05.540 Uh, and there you can find pretty much full details from the book.

01:20:10.720 Uh, if you don't have time to read it, read the website.

01:20:14.020 Everything is there.

01:20:15.780 Uh, you can also find a link there to get a, a hold of, uh, uh, a paperback copy, uh, Kindle, or an audio book, uh, from, from audible.com.

01:20:27.100 Uh, Willing Accomplices is all about where did PC progressives come, progressivism come from.

01:20:35.540 And the second book, Obliterating Exceptionalism, is its effects today, starting with the Obama administration and looking at how it has, how the PC progresses through the Obama regime, have destroyed American exceptionalism, uh, in, in every facet, cultural, political, foreign affairs.

01:20:59.640 Uh, there's a section in Obliterating Exceptionalism for all of those.

01:21:04.180 Um, and you can find that on the website as well.

01:21:08.620 Kent, I appreciate your time today.

01:21:09.920 Thanks again.

01:21:10.940 Thank you, Lana.

01:21:11.860 It was great talking to you and, uh, look forward to talking to you again.

01:21:15.420 Well, ladies and gentlemen, there's no denying that American culture has been destroyed, but the question remains, what are you going to do about it?

01:21:22.200 Let's face it, logic, reasoning, and common sense is not going to win this politically correct culture war.

01:21:27.640 Let's take Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals into play. 0.99

01:21:30.500 Rule number five.

01:21:31.480 Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. 0.98

01:21:33.280 So, the next time you get called a racist, a bigot, or an anti-Semite, or the usual predictable responses, turn it around to mock, ridicule, and scorn the traitor in your midst. 0.98

01:21:43.300 Be the counterculture and love your bigotry against PC fascism. 0.98

01:21:46.820 Own it.

01:21:47.500 We all know who the real racists and bigots are, so start calling them out on it and learn to have a lot of fun doing it. 0.78

01:21:53.700 Because these PC fascists are only getting louder and more violent, which will bring about their demise.

01:21:59.220 Rule number 12.

01:22:00.420 Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

01:22:03.960 Polarization is at the core of the left's strategy. 0.98

01:22:06.820 According to PC progressives, if you're not a liberal, you hate blacks, Hispanics, gays, Muslims, women, the poor, the environment, etc., etc. 0.99

01:22:15.060 So, start polarizing the PC fascists. 0.96

01:22:17.680 Why not point out that PC liberals who support affirmative action for women in the workplace do so because they think women are so weak that they can't even compete and therefore need a leg up.

01:22:27.460 I want to encourage you all to read the Rules for Radicals so you know the tactics of your enemy. 0.90

01:22:32.080 The fact is that this is a war that must be engaged on all fronts possible, so pick up your sword, tongue, and join the battle.

01:22:39.200 Join me next week for Michael Griffith as we discuss the Northern War of Aggression, but most know it as the American Civil War.

01:22:46.240 Learn what really happened.

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01:23:09.960 I'm going to leave you with a very anti-American song, and let me tell you, one does not have to look far to find one because that's all you get anymore.

01:23:16.780 This trite song is by The Clash, and it's called I'm So Bored With The USA.

01:23:21.180 By the way, I worked for Miles Copeland, who started the music management company called CIA and also started IRS Records.

01:23:28.200 Miles came from a CIA family who was behind the new wave music scene and managed The Clash, and he was very anti-American.

01:23:35.620 Yankee soldier, if you want to shoot some skag, he met it in Cambodia, but now he can't afford a bag. 1.00

01:23:53.840 Yankee dollar talk to the dictators of the world. 0.83

01:23:57.260 In fact, he's given orders, and he can't afford to miss the word.

01:24:02.720 Because I'm so bored with the USA.

01:24:08.240 I'm so bored with the USA.

01:24:12.380 What can I do?

01:24:18.360 Yankee detectives are always on their feet. 0.99

01:24:22.160 Because killers in America work seven days a week.

01:24:27.700 Never mind the stars and stripes, let's print the old Watergate takes.

01:24:32.600 I'll salute the new wave, and I hope nobody escapes.

01:24:37.420 Because I'm so bored with the USA.

01:24:42.980 I'm so bored with the USA.

01:24:46.460 What can I do?

01:24:49.340 What can I do?

01:24:51.380 What can I do?

01:24:55.240 What can I do?

01:24:55.760 What can I do?

01:24:56.980 What can I do?

01:24:59.300 What can I do?

01:25:01.980 We'll be right back. 0.98

01:25:31.980 Suck on Kodak for the USA. 0.99

01:25:37.680 Yankee soldier, he wanna see some skank. 1.00

01:25:41.780 He made it in Cambodia when I can't afford a bag.

01:25:46.720 Cause I'm so bored with the USA.

01:25:52.080 I'm so bored with the USA.

01:25:56.200 What can I do?

01:25:58.480 What can I do?

01:25:59.740 Cause I'm so bored with the USA.

01:26:06.480 I'm so bored with the USA.

01:26:11.020 What can I do?

01:26:15.740 Cause I'm so bored with the USA.

01:26:20.260 Hey, I'm so bored with the USA.

01:26:25.660 What can I do?

Radio 3Fourteen - July 09, 2014

Willing Accomplices_ How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America

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