Radio 3Fourteen - Women Against the Islamization of Europe

00:00:00.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, I'm Lana. You're listening to the audio version of this interview.

00:00:19.600 Don't miss the video version available at redicemembers.com in the extra section

00:00:24.320 or on redice.tv in the TV section. My guest is the lovely and influential Anka Vandermeersch from

00:00:31.720 Belgium. She's a lawyer who in 2003 was directly elected as a Belgian senator for the Flemish

00:00:37.680 Nationalist Party Vlams Belong. Additionally, she's a member of the Antwerp City Council and a member of

00:00:43.660 the Flemish Parliament, also the co-founder of the group Women Against Islam. Her book is called

00:00:49.640 Neither Whore Nor Slave, Women and Islam. But before politics, she was a gorgeous model who 0.98

00:00:55.660 was crowned Miss Belgium in 1991 and Miss Universe in 1992. Sorry, boys, she's married with kids.

00:01:03.460 Recently in a speech, Anka said,

00:01:05.920 The well-being of a people can be measured by the position of women and the welfare of their children.

00:01:11.300 Unfortunately, we women in Europe are not doing well. We'll talk about how European women are

00:01:16.480 being affected by mass immigration. Islam is no friend to women. So why are feminists and female 1.00

00:01:22.300 politicians welcoming Islam with open arms? Anka, up next. Welcome, Anka. Thanks for being here.

00:01:29.980 Thank you for having me on your show.

00:01:31.920 So you're a former model, a beauty pageant winner. You were trained as a lawyer. Then you became a

00:01:37.180 senator. You're also a member of the Antwerp City Council and the Flemish Parliament. And also you

00:01:43.720 started a group called Women Against Islam. So how did you go from being a model to a politician?

00:01:50.080 Well, I was Miss Belgium 25 years ago. And then I was a contestant in the Miss World election and

00:01:56.660 runner-up for the Miss Universe election. I actually still have contacts all over the world with the

00:02:01.780 women who were contestant at that time. But I traveled around the world as Miss Belgium and I saw many

00:02:07.680 people living in poverty. Many things go wrong. And I decided that life in Belgium, where I lived,

00:02:14.640 was not so bad. And I wanted to have to stay that way, to have it last that way and to have a better

00:02:20.760 world for everybody. And that's what young girls dream about. And so I went to university to study

00:02:27.720 law. But as a lawyer, I could only help a few people in each file. I could help somebody. But as a

00:02:33.700 politician, I can help more people at the same time. So this is why I got involved in politics.

00:02:38.880 And I'm at the moment elected since 2003. Great. And we're going to talk about some of the things

00:02:45.380 you're doing. But first, I just want to say you're Flemish. Now, a lot of people don't know about who the

00:02:51.080 Flemish people are. So who are they? Well, the Flemish people are people living here around Antwerp,

00:02:58.880 in the center of Europe. We're actually already known for a long time, because we are mentioned

00:03:04.100 by the Romans, because we were great warriors at that time. And we were mentioned in their

00:03:10.280 writings. And we do speak Dutch or Flemish. It's the same language as we speak the same language,

00:03:17.120 actually, as the people in Holland. And we're very proud people and trying to get our own nation

00:03:22.940 with the capital in which I live at the moment, Antwerp.

00:03:26.320 That's right. And Belgium is a newer country. I mean, there isn't really a Belgian ethnicity,

00:03:32.180 right?

00:03:33.100 No. Belgium doesn't exist. The Belgian people doesn't exist. And Belgium is actually an 1.00

00:03:39.420 artificial state. It was created in 1830, because as a buffer zone between Germany and France,

00:03:46.440 because as you well know, Germany and France, they fought some wars and had some clashes.

00:03:52.180 And Belgium was artificially made as a buffer between those two people, the French and the 1.00

00:03:58.640 German. Actually, we're an artificial state in which two people live, the Walloon people 1.00

00:04:03.640 and the Flemish people. And the Flemish people are now trying to establish their own states

00:04:09.940 within the European Union, because we're not only Flemish people, we are also European.

00:04:15.020 Yeah, you mentioned Antwerp, and Henrik and I went through there several years ago,

00:04:20.280 and I couldn't believe it. It looked like a Muslim country. I was shocked. It was my first 1.00

00:04:24.720 time in Belgium. And that's what I saw. I came in through Antwerp first. So when did the doors

00:04:29.840 of mass immigration open into Belgium?

00:04:32.680 Well, the migration is going on for a long time already. And it depends on where you walk through

00:04:39.840 our cities. If you feel in Flanders or not, there are areas where you cannot go anymore as a Flemish

00:04:47.740 girl or Flemish woman or blonde woman as I am. Mass migration started actually in the 70s,

00:04:56.540 when we needed people to work in our mines. We invited people to come and work here. But when

00:05:02.660 the work was finished, they didn't go back. They brought more family, married people from

00:05:07.740 their own country, brought them also here. And then since the war in Syria, the borders

00:05:14.540 are really open and anybody comes in illegally into Europe. And they try to get to the heart 0.99

00:05:22.180 of Europe, which is here in Belgium, Flanders, because we have a very good social system in

00:05:28.220 which my parents, my great parents, my grand and parents for a long time already have invested

00:05:35.240 lots of money. We pay throughout generations to have this social system. And at this point,

00:05:41.580 people are coming in who have never paid one euro for the system, but are getting out many,

00:05:47.640 many, many more euros than they ever invested in it. So the mass migration is a threat to our 1.00

00:05:54.220 social system, actually. And that's exactly what they are, why are, what they are coming for to

00:06:00.100 Flanders in the first place, actually.

00:06:02.700 And they also end up having lots of children because of that welfare system, correct?

00:06:08.360 Yes, our welfare system gives money to people. Every month you get a sum of money to raise your

00:06:15.380 children. And if you have a lot of children, you get a lot of money. And the Belgian people,

00:06:20.720 the Flemish people, they don't have many children anymore because we are used to having a standard 0.99

00:06:27.600 of living. And to obtain that standard of living, you have to go out and work. Both parents have to

00:06:33.040 go out and work. So you cannot have as many children as many women would like to have. We need a completely 1.00

00:06:40.640 different policy for family matters, actually. It's a completely wrong system. And the system is that,

00:06:48.880 in that degree, a wrong system that we, that at the moment, our people, Flemish people are being

00:06:55.020 replaced by foreigners due to the system that is now installed and the policy that is now

00:07:01.920 actually executed here in our country.

00:07:06.080 Now, are many Flemish people against this? Are they being vocal against mass immigration? Or are they

00:07:12.320 supporting it like so many Europeans who are fooled by this? 0.83

00:07:16.560 Well, my party has a lot of voters who are definitely against mass migration because we also see the 0.95

00:07:24.800 dangers of the mass migration that is bringing in Islamization. And Islam is really a threat to our 1.00

00:07:31.120 society, to women in our country. So many people see it, but more and more because we as a party and as 0.76

00:07:41.440 politicians, we, we point out the problems and more and more people are seeing it. And the

00:07:47.040 traditional parties like the Liberal Party, even the Socialist Party are seeing the problems at the

00:07:52.400 moment, but they are not yet implementing the solutions that my party, Vlams Belang, is proposing.

00:07:59.600 Well, you're actually a rarity amongst female politicians because a lot of female politicians, 1.00

00:08:04.000 especially in Europe, tend to be very left and they're really welcoming the refugees.

00:08:08.880 Why do you think that some of these women are more prone to accepting refugees and leftist politics? 1.00

00:08:16.160 Well, yeah, I am kind of exceptional because I think also that women in politics in Europe, 1.00

00:08:23.440 they behave like men also. They're not so feminine, which I think is very weird. And they have most of the 0.94

00:08:30.240 time left ideas on the left side of the political spectrum, which I think is very strange because

00:08:37.920 you should, you can normally imagine that a woman would take care of her own children first and then 1.00

00:08:43.920 take care of the other children because you need to start somewhere. I don't understand that they would,

00:08:51.280 they try to give away the money that is needed for our social system, for our schooling system, for the schools here,

00:08:59.440 to other people before taking care of their own people. This is why my party has one slogan, which

00:09:05.680 says what we are standing for, which is our own people first and then we will help the other people.

00:09:12.080 This is how we would like to see our society work. For example, our schools, we all have public schools,

00:09:18.800 every kid, almost every kid goes to a public school, private schools are very rare here. So the public

00:09:25.040 schools, we don't have enough places due to mass migration. We do not have enough places in the

00:09:30.080 schools to get our own kids to school, which makes that this evening after we conclude this interview,

00:09:36.960 I will be going out camping in front of the school that I want for my child to have a place in the

00:09:42.960 school. I have to go camping. Actually, this is how it works here in Europe. And this is what the left

00:09:48.640 people do from the traditional parties, because almost all the traditional parties are from left

00:09:54.320 side of left inspired by left. And I do not understand why women are engaging in such policies with 1.00

00:10:01.760 those traditional parties. I do not understand.

00:10:04.000 Yeah, I don't I'm always asking that question, too. In a speech, you said to the well being of a

00:10:08.880 people can be measured by the position of women and the welfare of their children. You said, unfortunately, 0.88

00:10:14.960 we women in Europe are not doing well. And I agree with that. So as a woman, how is life changing because

00:10:21.040 of mass immigration and specifically Islamic immigration into Europe? What are some of the concerns?

00:10:26.240 Well, we have many concerns because the feminists have fought for equal rights for women and on all

00:10:37.040 kind of levels in society. My mother and my grandmother, they have traveled a long way to get the rights on

00:10:44.240 which I do have as a female at this moment in our society. And because of mass migration and Islam coming 1.00

00:10:51.200 as in with mass migration, Islam has different values. It sees women as inferior, even as evil. 0.96

00:11:01.440 They have the Sharia law, which has awful punishments and inhuman punishment, actually, 1.00

00:11:07.600 and also inhuman treatment for women. And those migrants who are living now amongst us are implementing 1.00

00:11:15.200 those values. And they do not respect women at all. It goes from big clashes, but to minor ones,

00:11:23.840 like the one I had this morning in the street. I was walking in the street and a man came up to me

00:11:30.480 and speaking a kind of English. I do not speak very well English myself when you hear my accent, but it was 1.00

00:11:36.720 even worse than I do. And he said, ah, you whore, who is going to pay for you today? And I was so shocked that 0.99

00:11:43.440 I turned around and shouted very loudly at him that he should learn our language first and adapt

00:11:49.440 to our way of living. And the people in the street, they were very quiet. It was a very busy street,

00:11:55.360 actually, where I was this morning. So this is a daily life at this moment, living together with

00:12:01.840 migrants and especially Muslim migrants. Things are changing in our society and women have to defend 1.00

00:12:08.080 themselves more and more harsh, I think. And some people do, some women do, like I do. And I try to be an example

00:12:18.800 for those women and try to tell them that we cannot give in and that we should stand for the rights that we have and

00:12:25.440 defend those rights.

00:12:26.560 And rape is also a problem. Basically, if you're not covered up in a burqa, you're a whore to them, 1.00

00:12:32.880 you're a slut to them, they can say anything. And specifically European women, and I know that's part 1.00

00:12:37.120 of their religious texts that they see us as, you know, spoils for the war, for the conquest, right?

00:12:43.920 Yeah. And in Islam, women are only used as a breeding place or often, or how can I say it, 1.00

00:12:51.920 to have more jihadists. They want women to have children, many children, especially boys, to 0.83

00:13:00.640 engage in their religious war, the jihads. Actually, we do care about, women in the Western world do 0.97

00:13:09.680 care about their children. We don't want them to go to war, if not necessary at all. We have a different

00:13:15.520 view on treating little girls. Also, there's a big difference in how women are seen in Islam or in 0.60

00:13:23.360 our society. And that makes, that gives problems within our society. And actually, if you're not

00:13:30.800 covered up and living like they would like us to live, like Sharia rules say, they don't treat us 0.98

00:13:40.400 as women, they treat us as commodity, and they're very harsh to us. And then, yeah, they see us as a 1.00

00:13:49.040 whore, a Western whore, and they do not respect us at all. I do not like this situation. And this is why, 1.00

00:13:56.720 as soon as I was elected in 2003, the first year I was elected as a senator, I wrote the burqa ban. 1.00

00:14:03.760 And the burqa ban is a legislation that I introduced in the Belgian Senate, which served as the basis for

00:14:10.720 the European burqa ban. And I'm very proud of that, because it's necessary to make a statement, 1.00

00:14:16.960 it's a principle. You cannot wear burqas. It's kind of textile coffin, I think, for ladies and women. 1.00

00:14:24.880 You cannot wear it here in Europe. Not at all, I think. That's why I introduced the law. But it's

00:14:30.400 also to give a sign that the headscarf is also not very welcome. I don't like seeing lots of scarves, 1.00

00:14:38.640 headscarves in the streets here, because they're symbols of the fanatic Islam. They're symbols of 1.00

00:14:44.480 Islam, who does not treat women as equal to men, and does not give the rights to women as it should 1.00

00:14:52.640 be.

00:14:53.200 Now, what's happening with this burqa ban? Have you been able to push it ahead, or what's happening?

00:14:58.080 Yes. So, the burqa ban was introduced by me in 2003. Then it was copied, because it was introduced

00:15:04.400 in my mother language, which is Flemish. Then it was translated by the Belgian Senate in French. The

00:15:10.640 French Senate could read it at that moment, and then some politicians in France introduced it in

00:15:17.840 French, in the French parliament. It was adapted over there also, and from there on it was translated

00:15:24.160 in different languages and adapted to the local legislation. And it is now implemented in a few

00:15:31.040 more countries throughout Europe. And it's so actually the text that I wrote, which serves as

00:15:37.680 the basis of the European burqa ban, which I'm very proud of. 1.00

00:15:40.800 Yeah. Job well done there. Job well done. Well, I wanted to play a clip from a documentary a

00:15:45.520 woman in Belgium made, so I'm going to just play the trailer here for you.

00:16:15.520 I'm not sure if you're in a cafe. In the hotel, you're in direct.

00:16:18.240 You don't understand? I don't want to.

00:16:19.840 You're sexy. You want to go to the street? It's normal, right?

00:16:22.240 Watch! Watch! 0.67

00:16:23.200 So, little face?

00:16:24.240 Little face?

00:16:25.200 Little face?

00:16:26.240 Little face. 1.00

00:16:28.240 Shit. Salon. 1.00

00:16:30.400 So, it's just another day walking around in Brussels now. This woman is way too nice. 0.92

00:16:36.240 I think women like you and I wouldn't be as nice, you know. But now, I mean...

00:16:39.520 No. Actually, this morning, this is what happened to me also, eh? I told you already that I shouted out very loud.

00:16:43.520 Yeah.

00:16:45.920 Nobody's treating me like this, but it's on a daily base. That's true.

00:16:49.280 Well, the girl who made this video, she said that she was afraid that she was going to look

00:16:52.400 like a racist after releasing this film because it just so happened that all the men that were

00:16:56.560 harassing her happened to be foreigners, right? They happened to be non-Europeans. And at the end, 0.87

00:17:02.400 you know, of this documentary, I watch it, she said, but I still believe in a multicultural

00:17:06.480 Brussels. These women don't get it, you know? 1.00

00:17:08.960 No, actually, she did get it. But the pressure on women who speak out is very highly. I'm a very

00:17:17.200 tough one, I guess. But it's not so easy to say the truth here in Europe. There are punishments.

00:17:23.200 There's an anti-racism law. You can be punished in court. But as I am a lawyer, I don't care. And I

00:17:28.880 go to court if I'm again asked to defend myself. We did that already a few times.

00:17:36.000 I don't care if they call me a racist. I just want a future for my children, for the children,

00:17:44.320 from the people around me. I don't care. I just don't, I just won't shut up. Even though I'm called

00:17:51.040 a racist or fascist or anything else, I don't care. It's about the future of my children. I'll fight for

00:17:57.200 it. I fight like a lion. I don't care. And actually, I think it's very racist to say that you're,

00:18:05.840 that you think that if we speak out, to say something, what is wrong, that we already

00:18:10.960 called racist. So this cannot be. Actually, the lady who made the Femme de la Rue, she understood very

00:18:19.840 well what is happening in Brussels, and she wanted to show that. But she got a lot of criticism, and then

00:18:26.000 she shut up, and then she had to turn around and say the right stuff. And yeah, in the mainstream,

00:18:33.520 not everybody wants to get out of the mainstream or go in opposite to the mainstream as I do.

00:18:39.760 It's true. I think, I think a lot of women do harbor these views. They just do it quietly. But a lot of 0.71

00:18:44.880 women aren't like us. They can't come out and be vocal because they don't like the criticism. It's much, 1.00

00:18:49.440 it's a much harder life when you're going against the grain. And not a lot of women are built to be able 1.00

00:18:54.400 to withstand that. No, but I do, I do understand that women will not do that. They, that's why they 1.00

00:18:59.200 need politicians, as I am. Not every woman can stand up and shout out. Women have to take care 1.00

00:19:05.760 of their children. And here in Europe, many women go out and work, and that's their main goal, to have 1.00

00:19:11.440 some money to buy stuff for their children, to make sure everybody's fed at the right time.

00:19:17.680 And I can imagine that not everybody, not every woman can stand up. That's why we need politicians 1.00

00:19:23.920 and ladies who stand out. And that's why we organized a group of ladies, Women Against Islamization,

00:19:30.800 who go and on the basis of which, what they can do. Some can do that through the internet anonymously.

00:19:38.080 Some can stand up and speak, like the images you're showing that was in England, in front of the

00:19:44.960 English parliament, where I went to speak out to a group of ladies in the street. We do what we can,

00:19:51.440 and everybody has a different role to play. Actually, some people like I do, we stand up and go the full

00:19:58.080 length. But other people, the other women, they have other means of making sure that the right things 1.00

00:20:06.000 are done here in Europe. Yeah, it's good. I think that a lot of women can kind of channel that energy 1.00

00:20:10.720 through you. And it makes more women more prone to come out when they say, hey, there's a group of 1.00

00:20:15.200 other women, and I can have a support system and, and other women that think like me. And it's kind of 0.99

00:20:19.920 like a little safe, a safe haven for them to actually say what they want, you know, it gives them the

00:20:24.560 confidence. So, yeah, I think that that's important. Now, are you finding more women supporting you?

00:20:29.280 Well, actually, we started some five years ago with Women Against Islamization. At the time,

00:20:36.480 I published a book, which is not translated in English yet, but it's translated in German.

00:20:42.880 And it's titled Nor Whore Nor Slave. It's about women and Islam. And at that point, we started the

00:20:50.240 organization Women Against Islamization. And we do have now women in the organization in different

00:20:56.800 countries, France, Germany, Spain, Holland, Lettland, which is up north, Finland, also Italy,

00:21:06.960 actually, it's becoming a big European organization after a few years already.

00:21:12.480 That's great. That's fantastic. I think you're doing great work. I also wanted to talk about where

00:21:17.120 feminism is intersecting with Islam. I mean, because it seems like a lot of these feminists, 1.00

00:21:21.840 when they say, oh, you know, we can't sexualize women or body shame women. So let's 1.00

00:21:26.800 put on a burqa. They seem to be okay with that in some cases. So what do you think about that, 1.00

00:21:31.920 that union that we see happening between these hardcore feminists and Islam? They seem to support 1.00

00:21:36.960 it and be okay with it and love burqas too. Yeah, I don't understand that very well, because

00:21:42.880 I see that the most of the feminist groups, the traditional women and feminist groups, they are pro

00:21:50.960 headscarves. They defend wearing headscarves. They defend Muslims who want to wear a headscarves. And 0.98

00:21:56.000 I don't understand that it goes against all the rights we fought for many years already. So we need

00:22:03.040 different kinds of feminism. Actually, I don't think I'm actually a feminist. It's a different kind 1.00

00:22:10.080 of struggle that I do. I want equality between men and women. And I do not understand why the headscarf 1.00

00:22:18.480 can be defended by a feminist. This is why we need a different kind of organization for women. And 1.00

00:22:24.400 Women Against Islamization wants to be that platform, that platform to have the women unite

00:22:30.880 against other people who try to sell out our rights. Yeah, it's interesting too, how there's

00:22:39.760 a lot of women you see who don't want to be harassed in the streets. And they're the type that 1.00

00:22:43.920 might one day voluntarily wrap up in a hijab or a burqa just to avoid being harassed in the streets.

00:22:50.720 So it's almost like these guys are trying to create that. They're trying to push that, right?

00:22:54.880 But this is already happening here in Europe. Actually, you said that you were walking around

00:23:01.680 in my country here and in Antwerp, and that it feels like a Muslim country sometimes. Well, 1.00

00:23:07.360 there is areas where it is actually like that. And the Flemish girls, Flemish blonde ones, like I am 0.94

00:23:14.000 blonde, they do cover up already to not be harassed. And this is a wrong sign, completely wrong, but it

00:23:22.240 does happen. We had a big discussion in a school where the director of the school, a lady director

00:23:29.280 of the school said there cannot be any more headscarves worn within the school walls, because

00:23:35.600 it puts a pressure on the other girls, the Flemish girls, who are not even Muslimists. It puts pressure

00:23:42.960 on them to also wear the headscarves, because you get the segregation between the non-Muslim girls and 1.00

00:23:49.280 the Muslim girls, in which the Muslim girls and the Muslim men and boys are treating the Flemish ones 0.98

00:23:56.320 who do not wear the headscarves as whores and as a minority. And that cannot be happening in the 0.96

00:24:03.360 school. And this is why the schools have already a ban on the headscarves. Some of the schools do have 1.00

00:24:10.560 that. Actually, the school I am going to camp in front of this evening is one of those schools where it is

00:24:16.400 prohibited to wear a headscar. All right, good job. Well, I have a question. What do you think 0.98

00:24:21.760 is the solution? I mean, a lot of nationalists say that all these people, they're going to need to

00:24:26.080 go back home. A lot of them aren't coming from war-torn countries. They're coming from countries

00:24:31.360 that are just poor, but it's still safe there. What do you think is the solution? Is it too hardcore

00:24:37.360 to say repatriate them? Or what are politicians saying? Well, the traditional politicians in Europe

00:24:44.720 are not saying actually what I am saying or what my party is saying. I do want people to live in

00:24:51.840 harmony, peace, and do want them to have a good life all over the world. For example, when I see

00:24:58.560 little children put into boats and crossing the Mediterranean Sea to come to Europe, I think

00:25:04.800 that's awful and we cannot open the borders of Europe and encourage people and parents to put 1.00

00:25:12.720 their little children on those awful little boats and put them in danger to come to Europe. Europeans 0.93

00:25:19.920 should help the people in their region where they are. Some of the regions have a war. The region next

00:25:26.720 to that, that's the place where you have to help those people. Because a little child does not only need

00:25:33.440 a shelter and food, it needs a future. And people coming from Africa, children coming from Africa or the

00:25:40.800 Middle East, they are lost here in Europe. They do get shelter and they do get fed, but they don't get

00:25:46.880 the future here because this European society is so different from what they are used to and where they

00:25:53.840 are normally living. So we should, as Europeans, help people in their own region where they come from.

00:26:00.480 And that is more remain than putting little children with their parents and forcing them to come to

00:26:06.240 Europe by putting the gates of Europe open. So we should close the gates of Europe and let them not

00:26:13.360 enter anymore. So they stay where they should stay in their own region and then help the people over there.

00:26:19.600 The people who are already here, if they want to live as a European and adapt to our way of living, 0.99

00:26:25.680 and also have their contribution to our society, because I already talked about contributing

00:26:32.320 financially to our social system before you get benefits out of the system, then I think it's okay.

00:26:37.600 But a majority of the migrants who are living here at this moment, they object and they do not want 1.00

00:26:43.520 our society. They even hate the Western Europe. So I think those people don't belong here,

00:26:51.840 and we should have a collective expulsion of them. 0.86

00:26:56.160 Are most of the politicians that you're encountering in Europe and in the European Union,

00:27:00.560 do most of them support open borders?

00:27:05.440 Not really, but the traditional political system is supporting it. So they work in that frame.

00:27:11.440 We actually meet a different kind of politics and the nationalist parties, the patriotic parties are gaining

00:27:20.640 majorly actually. We do gain votes in France with Marine Le Pen, we do gain votes in Holland with

00:27:29.120 Wilders and throughout Europe, patriotic parties and nationalists are growing on a rapid scale.

00:27:38.080 So the future looks fine. I think that we should be able to put the problems, to name the problems

00:27:48.400 and put the solutions forward. And then many people within the next election will follow and will vote

00:27:54.880 for a patriotic party in their European country. So we can change the policy of the European

00:28:00.640 system as well. So I think more and more people are understanding the problem.

00:28:08.720 How do you think Wilders is going to do in the election?

00:28:12.720 I think Wilders is going to do fine, but the only problem in Holland is that the people are not obliged to

00:28:20.400 take part of the democratic system. Here in Flanders, in Belgium, everybody has to go and vote.

00:28:26.080 In Holland, you don't have to go and vote. And there's many people at this moment who are so

00:28:31.200 discussed by the traditional leftist parties and politics that they don't bother going to the

00:28:38.080 voting polls. And that is a pity because everybody should be part of the democratic system. And that might

00:28:47.120 be difficult for Wilders, but I think he's going to do just fine.

00:28:50.960 Were you happy that Trump won? Obviously, yes.

00:28:53.920 I am very happy that we have President Trump. Actually, I'm also a big fan of Jeff Sessions. I

00:29:03.200 met him in the US Senate once. And at that time, it's already a few years ago, he made a big impression

00:29:11.280 on me. And I'm very pleased to see that he's Attorney General at this point in history.

00:29:17.120 Well, Anka, I want to thank you for your time today. And I definitely want to promote your book. I know

00:29:22.240 it's not in English, but how can people follow your work and everything that you're doing?

00:29:26.240 Yes. Thank you for promoting the book. And I do need sponsoring for translating the book or for

00:29:33.520 Women Against Islamization to go on and doing a good job and working for the equal rights between

00:29:39.200 women and men and defending women here in Europe, because it's really, really necessary.

00:29:43.760 Oh, yeah. I forgot to ask you one thing, though. When I was in Belgium with Henrik,

00:29:48.800 we stopped and asked someone for directions. And it was actually a white person. And he just ignored

00:29:54.640 us. Just nothing. Nothing came out and no one really talks on the streets. Is that pretty common

00:29:59.040 there? Why is that? Well, when I when I walk in the street, I sometimes do ignore people also if they

00:30:07.040 ask me questions or they do. They do not look right to me, but you're looking just fine.

00:30:12.480 So I will give you directions. But people are getting more and more defensive here. We

00:30:17.920 we feel that we are under attack. So that is why a social system and social behavior is actually

00:30:25.120 changing to a defensive one. Yes, it is true.

00:30:28.160 Too bad. Well, thank you again so much. And your English is actually terrific. You have nothing to worry

00:30:33.040 about. So job well done. Thank you so much. Anka is incredibly unique when it comes to female 0.75

00:30:38.960 politicians. I also met her in person and she was kind, warm and had a great sense of humor.

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Radio 3Fourteen - March 15, 2017

Women Against the Islamization of Europe

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