Radio 3Fourteen - Women on the Verge of Societal Breakdown

00:00:00.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. This is Lana. Joining me is Piero San Giorgio, a Swiss author

00:00:19.500 and former businessman and software executive. For the past decade, he has studied the global

00:00:24.400 economic system and its dependence on ever-expanding populations, debt, and resource

00:00:29.860 exploitation. He is the author of several books, including Survive the Economic Collapse, and his

00:00:35.300 latest, which we'll discuss, called Women on the Verge of Societal Breakdown. Piero will explain the

00:00:40.560 fragility of our modern liberal world and how as our contemporary society collapses, a woman will 1.00

00:00:46.240 find herself in an extremely vulnerable position. Thinking in terms of no borders, liberal politics,

00:00:51.940 and social upheaval, coupled with our dependence on the system for survival, we talk about how this

00:00:57.200 is a ticking time bomb and how women will suffer if not prepared. Piero San Giorgio, up next. 0.65

00:01:03.080 Welcome, Piero San Giorgio. How are you today?

00:01:06.920 Great. I'm very happy to be on your show.

00:01:09.500 Well, I hear you've been traveling Europe. You're working on a new book. Any spoilers you can give us?

00:01:14.320 Let's say that it will involve a lot of information about the invasion of Europe

00:01:18.860 and who's behind it. But that's for some time in the future.

00:01:25.440 Well, I think that the research into the migrant invasion actually fits with your new book,

00:01:29.580 Women on the Verge of Societal Breakdown, because feminists claim, you know, women fought so hard 0.99

00:01:34.160 for their freedom, which we'll question in a bit. But it seems that if leftist trends continue and if

00:01:39.580 feminists keep defending Islam, it might end with women being stoned to death in the streets, 1.00

00:01:44.500 you know? I mean, what is it with feminists loving Islam? Some say they actually want to 1.00

00:01:49.240 be dominated. Others say they just hate European men. But what do you think? 0.97

00:01:53.800 Well, you know, to tell you the story about this book, you know, when my first book came out,

00:01:59.180 Survive the Economic Collapse, and surprisingly for me as a, you know, I was not a writer at the time,

00:02:07.840 a full-time writer. It had a huge success. And I noticed that most of the readers, actually 80%,

00:02:15.340 90% were men. And I was wondering, interestingly, we are in a world where women through feminism

00:02:22.520 have received all the rights, and perhaps even more than men. And therefore, they should be just 0.97

00:02:30.300 like men, thinking about the future and thinking about protecting their society.

00:02:34.500 And obviously, that was not the case. Not many women were interested about what I was explaining,

00:02:41.220 about why our world is collapsing, our global economy is going bad, and therefore, the risks

00:02:48.480 that are linked to that. And I was thinking, well, hold on a second. The women have more to suffer, 1.00

00:02:54.440 because when a society collapses, that means there is no law, there's no more protection.

00:02:59.540 And women have always been the prize for razia, for war, for conquest. And therefore, it could be 1.00

00:03:11.280 very dangerous for them. So I started to think about feminism. And I was thinking, after all,

00:03:17.460 in the history of mankind, there's never been any time like the past 100 years, where women have had 1.00

00:03:27.220 these rights and this power that they have fought for and acquired over the time. And I must say,

00:03:34.200 this is a European, and to some extent, American, but you understand it's a Western approach.

00:03:41.100 And of course, I was thinking, how come in the West, after 100 years of gaining these rights and

00:03:48.200 gaining these privileges, women have seemed to fail to understand that it's also their responsibility 1.00

00:03:53.960 to protect their societies, to protect their civilization, and if only to protect themselves.

00:04:01.380 And so, of course, I studied feminism. This is what I write in the first part of the book. 1.00

00:04:07.560 Why and what were the mechanisms that brought, in a historical perspective, to bring women 0.94

00:04:13.600 to the forefront, to the forefront of political and, you know, labor and working. And at some point,

00:04:25.820 eventually, it went too far. And today, it seems that the feminism that is certainly vocal is one that

00:04:34.840 is against women. It is against white men. And it's against Western civilization. So, at some point, 0.94

00:04:46.680 there has been some hijacking by cultural Marxism and other forces to make sure that women basically 1.00

00:04:56.540 have become free to be slaves, they have become free to be prisoners of their own needs, or rather,

00:05:11.840 of their own wants, such as shopping. And you just have to see literature for women. It's extremely

00:05:19.960 disappointing. It's not, I mean, freedom and elevation and rights. For what? For shopping? For having to work

00:05:29.860 just as men? For having to, not having children anymore? Because you don't have time, you need to 1.00

00:05:36.500 have a career. And what career? To be a glorified secretary? To be working in, as a saleswoman in 1.00

00:05:45.520 consumer shops. And for this, women have sacrificed family, children, and that means people that will take care 1.00

00:05:55.340 of them when they're old. And that means, probably, they have sacrificed husbands, caring men. Because in a

00:06:01.780 world where women are free, men feel that they don't need to protect them anymore, and therefore, don't have

00:06:08.260 also the moral imperative to stay with them, and to stay faithful, in a way, to them. In the old days,

00:06:19.960 men, yeah, they may have mistresses, they might have had adventures here and there, but it was impossible

00:06:27.300 for them to leave their women. While today, women are married to the state. So they have this illusion, 0.96

00:06:34.100 they have this illusion that they can do and live their lives the way they want. And they forget that

00:06:40.660 eventually, when the state is not going to be around, who's going to protect them?

00:06:45.720 That's just it. Well, I think that's a great opening statement. I wanted to go back to part one of your

00:06:50.960 book, The Century of Women. You open this chapter with a highly important line that I'm going to read.

00:06:55.740 It says,

00:06:56.400 In just a few generations, we have wandered far from nature and our habits and our way of life,

00:07:00.620 which had previously flowed within a rhythm set by the seasons defined by a multitude of everyday

00:07:05.920 pressing problems and controlled by precise and strict societal norms. So can you elaborate on

00:07:11.100 this a little bit? Well, yes. If you think about, if we go very long time ago in the past, if we go back

00:07:18.000 tens of thousands of years, first of all, women were never oppressed by men. Women were part of the team,

00:07:26.840 which was the family. And there were different sorts of families, but depending of where you look in the world.

00:07:35.320 But generally speaking, men and women were part of the same tribe. And everyone was committed to make sure that

00:07:43.040 the whole tribe was performing as best as they could, because it was necessity of survival, gathering or hunting

00:07:49.740 enough food, gathering wood or material for fire, having shelter in case of bad weather, and certainly in case of the winter.

00:08:00.940 And this was obviously stronger in the northern climates. And this is why there are fundamental differences between

00:08:07.820 people from the north, people like us in the west that have developed around Europe and the Baltic and Caucasus and even parts of

00:08:16.620 central Asia. And to some extent, Asia as well. Asian people have similar patterns. And these are very different

00:08:25.340 from people from the desert or perhaps people from the tropics, from the equatorial forests or the savannah.

00:08:31.900 Completely different point of view. So I'm focusing a little bit on our people, on the west. And during those times,

00:08:38.780 these women were never considered below men. They were fully part of society. And they had a complete

00:08:47.980 part to play in the survival of the tribe.

00:08:50.060 Yeah, they didn't think about egalitarianism and equality, seeing each other separate. They thought

00:08:54.780 of each other as one in the same, as a team, right? Exactly.

00:08:57.580 Absolutely. As a team. And obviously, physical differences made that men would be more fit to

00:09:04.460 go and hunt big animals or to fight invading tribes. And women were more fit for, of course, 1.00

00:09:13.340 taking care of the children. We men cannot bear children, for sure. At least for now. They're 0.63

00:09:20.700 working on that. Yeah, exactly. And certainly that meant that there was some specialization and

00:09:27.020 segregation of labor that was happening. But this was never perceived. In fact, some scholars,

00:09:32.220 scholars, I'm not sure it's correct, but some scholars actually believe that in terms of calories,

00:09:37.660 women were actually providing more calories to the tribe through a gathering of fruits and 1.00

00:09:45.500 roots and wild little animals compared to the men who would gather big animals. I'm not sure if that's

00:09:52.700 correct. But certainly, for sure, no one would think of anyone as inferior or different.

00:09:58.300 And that was our life for tens and tens of thousands of years. And when, obviously,

00:10:06.780 we started to gather agriculture and herding and to be much more sedentary, less nomadic,

00:10:17.180 the religions of the Middle East, of the desert, Judaism first, but also Christianity and then Islam,

00:10:24.220 started to believe that women have to be a propriety. Because fundamentally,

00:10:30.780 women know who are the children. The Latins used to say, 1.00

00:10:34.860 which means the mother knows she's the mother. She's certain about that. The man is not certain,

00:10:41.740 can never be really certain. In fact, in Judaism, it's pushing to the point where only women, 1.00

00:10:46.700 women, in theory, make the religion pass on through the blood, very strange concept for religion. 1.00

00:10:54.860 But certainly, certainly, this is how it was perceived. And men needed to make sure that women 0.92

00:11:02.540 were in the house, in the home, so that they would ensure that the children were theirs. In the past, 0.50

00:11:09.660 you know, we estimate that even in tribes or that are in a very primitive way of life, there's about 20

00:11:18.380 to 30 percent children who are not from the father. So there is about that. There is some sort of

00:11:26.380 mixing that happens. But those approaches to make women a property suddenly spread. And indeed, 0.71

00:11:35.660 we have lived from, starting from the Middle East in about 2000 BC, all the way through the end of

00:11:43.580 Christianity in Europe, we have lived into a real, and for this, I must say, the feminists are correct. 1.00

00:11:49.980 There has been a time of patriarchy. Where they are not correct is that they have seen this as

00:11:55.980 an oppression in all cases, in all sorts, in all places of life. And indeed, it was not the case,

00:12:03.580 because when people have to work, such as in farming, or in the factories later on,

00:12:12.620 there had to be a partnership between the men and the women. You could never say that the man was

00:12:17.660 the master on the woman, because even if the religion was saying that, it was not the case,

00:12:23.900 because life was too hard. So in fact, feminism is an invention of the bourgeois class. So the rich 1.00

00:12:30.460 women, who were probably didn't have a lot to do during the day, started at the turn of the 19th 1.00

00:12:36.460 century, and to the beginning of the 20th century, to think that it was their duty, just as they stopped

00:12:44.460 slavery before. It's Western women who pioneered the end of slavery. Western bourgeois women also 1.00

00:12:51.900 pioneered the freedom or the fight for rights for women.

00:12:59.020 Yeah, let me read a quote to that from your book. You said that the emancipation of women gave them

00:13:03.340 access to freedoms, which were previously very rare and only available to a tiny elite.

00:13:09.980 Yes. And the interesting paradox is that tiny elite actually employed at very low wages,

00:13:19.900 women to do all the chores, of course, taking care of the children, the house, and the cleaning. 0.98

00:13:25.980 And today as well, you see a lot of bourgeois feminists who keep talking about 1.00

00:13:32.140 men exploiting women, where in fact, they are hiring, they have nannies and maids to take care 0.61

00:13:39.660 of their own houses and children. So this paradox of the bourgeois class is always quite fascinating.

00:13:45.900 So then what happens, you know, modern medicine, technology, science, industrial revolution

00:13:51.980 comes, and how did this collide with, you know, our centuries-old traditions and culture?

00:13:57.740 When you look at it, despite Mr. Bernet's propaganda to make sure that the suffragettes in the 1920s

00:14:06.540 were on the front page of the news, the real emancipation of women starts with technology.

00:14:13.660 Because if men hadn't invented the washing machine, the vacuum cleaner, and so on, well, 0.97

00:14:24.940 rights are all well and good. And when there's work to be done, you don't have time to think,

00:14:30.540 you don't have time to fight for your rights. You just have to do it because you cannot live in filth

00:14:35.260 and with dirty children and you need to survive. So we have to recognize that it is technology and

00:14:41.420 it is modernity, which has been created by the West, once again, that has emancipated the woman. And I

00:14:50.700 think in the book, I show at what time women have participated into, they got universal right of 1.00

00:14:58.300 vote. But also, I have a chapter on when women started to participate in the war effort, first in World War

00:15:04.940 War One, but especially in very large numbers in World War Two. And obviously, after World War Two, when

00:15:11.500 seven million women, for example, in the Soviet Union fought against Germany, when millions of women 0.97

00:15:22.780 worked in the factories in the United States and in England and in other countries, well, after the war,

00:15:29.740 it was very difficult to say, well, now you have to go back. It was the right time to say, well, then you

00:15:37.260 can now, of course, vote, but also develop your intellectual potential, which I believe women have 0.99

00:15:45.820 greatly. And of course, do what you want. Unfortunately, I think this was hijacked at some

00:15:55.020 point. I think the counter revolution in the 60s, the culture, you know, if you call it cultural

00:16:01.740 revolution in the US, but in the 60s and early 70s, this movement, which was, I think, happening

00:16:10.460 anyway, was politicized and hijacked by the usual suspects, to make sure that it became a form of

00:16:17.980 uh, uh, uh, fight against the, um, uh, white, uh, Western society. Yeah. And, uh, and we've been, uh,

00:16:26.220 because we are nice people in the West, we fell for it. And now it went too far.

00:16:32.700 Yeah. It's interesting. You bring up, you know, women, they first enter the workplace, think about

00:16:36.620 this in a time of war. I mean, that seems like a really bad omen, you know, they're like helping

00:16:42.300 build and put together, you know, guns that are being used so that white men can kill each other, 0.99

00:16:47.740 you know? So they went from this feminine realm to a masculine one practically overnight. 0.96

00:16:54.220 Yes. The, I, I, I take as a, you know, you probably remember the first chapter of the book. I,

00:17:00.220 I give the example of my grandmother, which started, uh, as a very poor factory worker. I think she started

00:17:06.700 to work when she was 14 and, um, she worked in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a cookies factory in

00:17:13.500 Torino in north of Italy. And, um, and, uh, she, she, she had the entrepreneurship spirit.

00:17:21.020 So to make a very long story short, she ended up after the war to own, uh, a few businesses.

00:17:28.620 And despite having lost two children, um, she, she managed to have a very successful, uh, life and

00:17:35.180 career. And, and it really showed that the times were, were not easy. The, the, for men and women,

00:17:42.380 uh, and we should never forget that most of the people, 90% of the people in Europe and in America,

00:17:48.540 um, they had a very difficult time, whether they were men or women, this idea that, um,

00:17:54.780 men had it good and women were oppressed. It's really a view from the bourgeois class. It's not the

00:17:59.340 view from the proletarian or for the working people. Thinking in terms of what you're saying,

00:18:03.260 it's our, our, our ideas. One of the problems here is our ideas of human survival has drastically

00:18:08.540 been changing from how our ancestors viewed it. It's become very artificial versus something really

00:18:13.340 grounded in nature. So it's telling that in our modern era, you know, depression and anxiety,

00:18:18.300 it's an epidemic. A lot of women are on antidepressants. So is this really the consequences of being removed

00:18:23.900 from nature and self-sufficiency? I mean, cause that really brings the ultimate satisfaction,

00:18:29.100 right? When we're like working to provide for our families and working as a unit. What do you think?

00:18:33.980 Yes. Uh, the, the, the idea that, um, men are not needed anymore. You know, men, men are very,

00:18:41.980 once again, we, we don't know where, who are our children. I mean, theoretically, we don't know.

00:18:46.940 Therefore, um, we are programmed to have as many children as we can. And this is our biological

00:18:54.060 programming. Of course, civilization and, and, and care and care makes you go beyond that. But

00:19:00.380 the idea is that you will impregnate as many women as you can, as often as you can, because we can,

00:19:06.620 whereas women is a different story. Women have, are limited by maybe one or two children every, 1.00

00:19:12.860 every, you know, two or three years. And therefore they need, they know that they will need to care

00:19:18.700 for those children when they're small and therefore selecting the right men is very important. When the

00:19:26.060 world tells them that they don't need men anymore because the state will provide, well, suddenly they

00:19:31.660 don't care anymore about selecting properly. They will become more promiscuous. They will become, uh,

00:19:37.660 easier to, um, uh, to approach. And men will take advantage of that. Men will certainly, 0.93

00:19:43.820 certainly feel that first of all, they're not needed, nor they're wanted to protect, uh, the

00:19:49.100 woman in the society. And therefore they can afford, um, to, uh, not care or not commit anymore. 1.00

00:19:55.740 And this is by the way, something that a lot of women complain to. They say, oh, men don't commit, 1.00

00:19:59.740 men don't commit. Well, maybe you should think about what it means to be, um, uh, selecting the right,

00:20:05.580 the right men and look at how parts of our society are collapsing completely in terms of family.

00:20:11.740 The first one were probably the weakest part of our societies. Look at how from the 1950s where,

00:20:17.740 for example, black Americans had the same marriage and divorce rates as white. Today,

00:20:25.100 it's a complete disaster. I mean, you have, uh, the average black, I cannot call it a family, 1.00

00:20:31.820 unfortunately for them. Yeah. It's all single moms. And yeah, it's a single mom was four 1.00

00:20:36.380 children with four different men. And, um, I think that's common in Africa too. You know,

00:20:41.500 this kind of commitment and being a couple is a very European thing.

00:20:45.980 And having worked in Africa, it is quite common. However, there is one advantage in Africa is that 1.00

00:20:50.860 because the state doesn't provide for, for, for, for anyone, um, the women are extremely assertive 1.00

00:20:58.620 on men. So you, you almost have domination of women on African men in Africa, because the women, 1.00

00:21:05.180 they know they're, they know how the men are. So they will put a lot of pressure and, and it's

00:21:10.700 extremely harsh. I've seen it. I've seen it happen. Uh, the woman will hunt them down on the, 1.00

00:21:15.980 in the evenings to know where they are and they will drag them back home, uh, so that they, they

00:21:21.100 don't mess around. And it's a, it's a, so if there is a social form of control,

00:21:25.260 whereas in the U S and more in studying in European, uh, societies, this social control

00:21:31.020 doesn't exist. And in fact, it went to the opposite way where there is a subculture of, um,

00:21:37.100 making, um, the, the, the, the criminal male to be the, the hero of that subculture.

00:21:44.940 And, and those who suffer the most in reality are of course, the children, but obviously the,

00:21:50.940 the women who have to take care of these children on their own. And, um, I think the, 1.00

00:21:57.420 the, the real sad part is that of course, now, uh, this breeds a high criminality as we know,

00:22:04.140 but it also spreading this way of life, this way of culture is spreading to other societies,

00:22:09.900 spreading to whites. And it even starts to break to Asians, uh, on a lesser scale, 0.70

00:22:15.180 but this culture has been pushed by the media to be widespread. And so now we start to see white,

00:22:21.260 uh, let's say European women who are suffering the same exact, um, social problems than, uh, Afro 1.00

00:22:30.940 American or, or, uh, others, um, other women in society. The only ones I must say that are not 1.00

00:22:38.140 suffering through that are the ones from the Muslim communities, which are still extremely traditional. 0.99

00:22:44.460 Now thinking in terms of, you know, female emancipation, wasn't it really liberation for

00:22:50.460 men too, in a way, because then they could be off the hook of being the provider and the protector,

00:22:54.620 right? Kind of that you were alluding to that fact. Yes, I think so. And, uh, and, uh, and, uh,

00:23:00.060 and I think we, we now understand that the results are patently, uh, disastrous and there is a huge,

00:23:07.820 um, movement and I can feel it in society where both women and men, 1.00

00:23:14.140 uh, are, are fed, are fed up of this and are moving back towards some form of traditional way of

00:23:21.740 life, some form of traditional values. And, um, this is probably the fundamental reason for some

00:23:28.380 sort of Christian revival, uh, you know, this evangelical revival in the U S starting in the 80s,

00:23:35.340 uh, has probably something to do with that. And, um, in some cases, look at, for example,

00:23:41.340 someone that is a very interesting, uh, personage, a very interesting character in American, uh,

00:23:47.660 political life, which is Louis Farrakhan with nation of Islam. I mean, this guy is pushing for family,

00:23:54.940 for discipline, for, um, structure in the African American societies. And, um, the woman 0.99

00:24:05.340 are following this very much because they understand that the dangers and the risks

00:24:11.660 that exist outside of the protection of a structured society provided by men are incredible.

00:24:19.420 We're talking, uh, what I was discussing before, promiscuity and, uh, uh, single, single, single

00:24:26.300 woman. This is the, the, the mild problem. The big problem is rape, it's violence, it's, um,

00:24:33.900 beatings and, uh, even killings. This is what, uh, is happening now with women on their own. 1.00

00:24:40.300 That's right. I think it's, it's probably more dangerous for women in this current modern society 1.00

00:24:45.500 that's very leftist than the old days because of all the criminality and rampant multiculturalism, 1.00

00:24:51.660 you know, especially rapes by invaders. In the old days, the men would just hunt these guys down

00:24:56.860 and go to war and take them out. That doesn't happen anymore.

00:24:59.820 Exactly. And I've seen this, I've seen this personally in Africa during my travels. You know,

00:25:05.260 if, if someone, if someone rapes a woman, the family of, of the woman will hunt the guy down and 0.99

00:25:11.260 kill him. That's it. And the authorities will just turn a blind eye saying, well, 1.00

00:25:16.540 this is our customs. We don't have anything to say. Today in Europe, when a man, uh, rapes a woman,

00:25:24.300 probably get six months, not, he probably doesn't even go to jail. And that's if he gets convicted,

00:25:30.540 because probably they will find that, oh, you know, he's a poor, uh, immigrant. He didn't know, 1.00

00:25:35.740 uh, you know, we must understand the differences of culture and things like that. It's becoming appalling. 0.99

00:25:40.380 You, everyone has, has, has, has seen these, uh, uh, images, shocking images and news from

00:25:46.700 Cologne, uh, a year ago. Uh, and, uh, and from Sweden, the world's rape, uh, capital after Lesotho. 1.00

00:25:55.260 Yeah. I mean, Swedish rape in Sweden has is on the levels of, of, of deep Africa. This is, 0.86

00:26:02.620 this is crazy. We cannot allow this. And women are starting to realize that they are the victims. And 1.00

00:26:09.660 therefore, you know, they're not going to rape me. I'm, um, I'm six foot tall. Uh, no one is going

00:26:16.060 to rape me. Uh, believe me, but, but, uh, but my daughters, I have to be, I have to be, I am,

00:26:21.580 I am scared for my good daughters. I have to teach them how to protect. They have to do self-defense.

00:26:27.260 When you look at the self-defense courses across, across Europe, I'm sure in the U S it's the same.

00:26:31.900 And they're, the classes are full of women today. There is a, there is a consciousness 0.99

00:26:37.580 that is starting from that. And this is survival instinct. So it's, it's, it's just normal.

00:26:43.100 Yeah. I think there's a lot of European women that are also quite naive because they've had it 1.00

00:26:48.380 good for so long, right? They, they have been safe. They have been able to wear mini skirts,

00:26:52.860 you know, and go out clubbing at midnight, not fear being raped. But now that's all completely

00:26:57.900 changing, isn't it? Yes. It's, uh, it's quite possible. And that, um, there is some sort of

00:27:03.740 natural selection at play, but you see, the problem is I'm, I'm part of, um, my societies.

00:27:10.700 I'm Swiss. I cannot say to my Swiss, um, citizen, uh, woman citizens, look, it's going to be natural 0.99

00:27:18.220 selection. You will learn the hard way. Sure. Some of them might learn the hard way, but, um, my,

00:27:25.180 my, my duty as a citizen and as a fellow European is to teach them, look and to tell them and to warn

00:27:32.300 them is to say, well, look, think about, um, the real risks. And I, I have a lot of people who are,

00:27:39.340 uh, I know a lot of women who are from the left and, um, they start to vote extreme right. They start 0.80

00:27:48.380 to vote in the right at least, or certainly at the very least, they certainly have a consciousness, 0.75

00:27:53.740 uh, catharsis because they understand very well that being raped is not exactly pleasant

00:28:00.620 or being stoned to death by some foreign culture that is coming in, in our countries is not exactly 0.66

00:28:07.260 pleasant. And, um, you know, the, the most stupid ones, well, they're hopeless. We, we, we see them, 1.00

00:28:13.340 these social justice warriors. And I mean, we, we just have to consider them insignificant because

00:28:18.620 they are insignificant. So we, we have to cut them out from our, from our, they're already dead.

00:28:24.140 They don't know it yet. That's right. But those we can save, those we can, those that we can teach,

00:28:30.300 those who have been, those who fell for the narrative of the, of the cultural Marxism and

00:28:36.620 on, of the left, well, we, we, we can still save them because they are, they are, I think they are

00:28:42.140 mature now to understand the real risk because this is a, this is not intellectual anymore. This is, um,

00:28:48.780 this is really, uh, you know, so to speak, uh, deep into them.

00:28:55.180 Now, another big, important concept you bring up that we can't just have endless growth and

00:29:00.860 forever just expand and expect there to be no consequences. So explain how, how that's a bad

00:29:06.540 thing. This idea of just endless growth.

00:29:09.500 This is where it links to my first, my first book, which was about, uh, indeed, um, in a world of

00:29:15.340 ever increasing population. Well, uh, growth cannot continue forever. Uh, first of all,

00:29:21.580 there are environmental limits, there are energy limits, and there are resources limits.

00:29:25.740 And, um, thinking that there are, you know, Africa, for example, is 1 billion people today.

00:29:31.020 This, this is expected to double by 2050. So there's going to be 2 billion Africans in 2015.

00:29:37.340 And according to the UN, if, if things stay unchanged, and, uh, of course, I, I believe

00:29:42.700 this is never going to happen because we will all collapse before, uh, by the end of this century,

00:29:47.580 Africa will be 4 billion people. So obviously considering these, and this is not the shot,

00:29:53.740 these are not the sharpest tool in the, in the box as well. Um, this, these guys will never be able

00:29:59.980 to, to, to, to live in their, in their own lands because despite a fairly good economical growth

00:30:05.500 in, in that continent, um, the growth of the people is higher and therefore they will export 0.99

00:30:11.580 more and more people who will try to go to, uh, to Europe, obviously not in the U S since, um,

00:30:18.540 you are probably not going to accept anymore, which is a great thing. Um, the, these people will not

00:30:25.820 want to live like, uh, a farmer in Mali, these people will want to live like Europeans. Yeah, 1.00

00:30:31.500 they would live like kings. Exactly. That means like, let, let the, and that means an incredible

00:30:37.340 stress on the, on the budgets of the economy, on the, on the, on the local, on the local life and so

00:30:43.340 on. In fact, very interestingly, uh, a bit unrelated to my book, but certainly when, when I travel in

00:30:49.260 North Africa or in the Middle East, as I, as I, as I travel often, um, I see that the, the Muslim 0.99

00:30:55.580 countries in those areas are scared from the immigration from Africa because they are on the 0.99

00:31:01.660 first, they are swamped from these, uh, migrants before they can cross into Europe. They stay for 1.00

00:31:08.140 months and for years in Morocco, in Tunisia, in, uh, in Lebanon and all these places. And, um, they,

00:31:15.420 their behavior is the same. And, and of course the, the laws over there are much tougher.

00:31:19.740 Oh yeah. Saudi Arabia just doesn't let any of those people in. 0.97

00:31:23.260 Indeed. And, and, and, and nor does Israel, by the way. And, and therefore, and therefore the, 0.71

00:31:27.660 and which is, which by the way, they're totally correct. We must say, uh, we must say bravo to,

00:31:32.540 to, to, to well done Israel, not to take, uh, people who are not from your culture.

00:31:36.700 I mean, we should be doing the same thing, of course.

00:31:39.340 Yeah. Like they, they build walls and they say no to, to, to people who are not from their culture 0.91

00:31:44.540 and their right to do that. So, so we are, we are seeing, this is a worldwide phenomenon. This is not

00:31:50.540 just limited to us. The question is in Europe, we are weak now, right now, and we are not putting

00:31:57.660 the, the, the, the laws, but also the, the, the walls and the barriers to prevent this phenomenon.

00:32:05.020 But certainly what, what, what this means is that growth will never solve this anymore.

00:32:10.460 And we are stuck with, uh, not growing economies that will never, are never going to be able to

00:32:16.460 bring wealth for billions of people. And that means we will have to become tough and we will become

00:32:23.580 tough because our way of life is going to decrease unless we change our way of life to something

00:32:29.740 different. And, um, and I think we have to obviously become tough. We have to, to learn to become tough,

00:32:35.340 women included. We have to, as I explained in my books, I always push this idea of we have to become 0.99

00:32:42.460 as much autonomous as possible. We have to learn to, to, to, to be autonomous as, as individuals for

00:32:49.020 our survival needs for, that means water, food, uh, self-defense, uh, culture, and so on. But also we need

00:32:57.500 to learn, uh, jobs and trades that cannot depend on the global economy of the financial, financialized,

00:33:05.900 uh, indebted world economy. We have to think of jobs that are going to exist no matter what, uh, you know,

00:33:15.020 plumbing, uh, carpentry, uh, bicycle repair, it doesn't matter. There's millions of very interesting jobs.

00:33:23.340 So not interpretive dance or gender studies?

00:33:26.940 Yeah, gender studies is going to have, um, not a bright future, I think.

00:33:30.620 Yeah. I mean, you have a great section in your book where you talk about how modern convenience

00:33:36.460 has made us fragile, and this is very important. We should talk about it, but I want to just read

00:33:40.140 a quote here. He said, have we not become as patients in a coma hooked up, hooked up to a more

00:33:45.020 and more complex, fragile life support mechanism and completely dependent on it. Let's talk about that,

00:33:51.180 how we've become fragile through all this modern convenience.

00:33:53.740 Yes. Well, think of where people get the food. We buy food. Most of the people buy food in the

00:34:01.180 supermarkets and they buy, uh, medication, uh, from the pharmacy, from the, from the drug, the drug store.

00:34:08.060 And, um, they want to fuel for their car. They go to the petrol station. If they want, um, anything that

00:34:15.340 they need in their life, everything is available just in time when they need it. Uh, but this is

00:34:23.660 relying on an incredibly complex machine of supply of just in time supply of, uh, of incredible

00:34:34.620 complexity. It's even, it's very hard for human brain to understand the complexity of this machine

00:34:40.300 that Western men have created. And, uh, this machine has become fragile because it's, it, it works on the 0.92

00:34:49.340 basic that everything works all the time. So as soon as the system starts to have, uh, shocks, as soon

00:34:56.940 as it has, um, failures, as soon as it has, uh, um, different kinds of problems whose cause can come from

00:35:05.980 social unrest, uh, energy disruption, um, lack of raw materials to manufacture the key ingredients,

00:35:15.820 the spare parts, uh, or, uh, transports that don't work for whatever reason. So the system is not going

00:35:24.460 to last forever. Therefore, um, we have better prepare, uh, ourselves, uh, to be with the least

00:35:35.740 impact if, if the system falls. But I would say there is a even more important reason for us to live in a

00:35:43.580 different way is that the life today in our system, as you mentioned, is not making us very happy.

00:35:49.660 A lot of people are depressed. We have to take drugs. Uh, we compensate our lack of, um, future,

00:35:57.260 uh, with, um, uh, consumption with, uh, sex with whatever that, uh, that is a short term, uh, pleasure.

00:36:08.620 We, we, and, and also I think the most, the most sad part is we have completely lost the sense of

00:36:14.220 community. Uh, all of us in whether, whether, whether we are, uh, um, whites, blacks, doesn't

00:36:22.700 matter. We all have lost the sense of community and, um, yeah. And therefore we, um, we, we live a sad

00:36:30.460 life. And this is the reason why I believe that finding a better community, learning to be

00:36:35.580 self-sufficient, uh, creating strength, uh, through the, through those means make us more, uh,

00:36:42.780 strong and more, and more resilient. Yeah. And we're happy. I think that the consequence of

00:36:47.020 wanting constant comfort, avoiding the reality of life on this planet, we've, we've basically

00:36:52.460 outsourced our own survival has made us weak and vulnerable and depressed because we're so out of

00:36:58.140 touch with, with the nature, you know? Exactly. Exactly. You were talking about also in the book,

00:37:05.260 you know, that our, our grandparents used to stockpile, they planned for the future. Nowadays,

00:37:09.660 there's no planning. It's, it's just in time, everything. And it's that saying, I always hate

00:37:14.940 live in the moment, man, you know, relax. And now I hear that millennials, they can't even cook. There 1.00

00:37:21.260 was just a, a, a research study that was released and was saying that millennials go out to eat more than

00:37:27.240 they spend on grocery shopping. Like they don't even know how to cook anymore. Yes. I think that,

00:37:32.860 uh, it is true to some extent. And, um, uh, however, because of the crisis and because of the, um,

00:37:39.180 the difficulty to find jobs and therefore have enough money to eat out, uh, a lot of, uh, young

00:37:44.460 people are starting to realize that maybe the American dream is, uh, is, has become a nightmare.

00:37:49.100 And it's time to, uh, it's time to go back to, to self-sufficiency and, uh, and, um, and, uh,

00:37:56.700 ability to be, uh, more, more reliant on, on oneself. In fact, general Celente was telling me,

00:38:03.780 uh, that the highest growing economy, economic segment in the United States is, uh, um, farming of,

00:38:12.220 uh, organic products and more and more young people are leaving the big cities to go back

00:38:18.940 into countrysides to start organic farms. This whole artificial system of modernity. I mean,

00:38:24.860 could it even exist if it, it didn't rely on financing? Because in America, every,

00:38:29.580 everyone has loans to have everything that they have. Yes. Financing and cheap energy.

00:38:36.220 And both are, um, in their death throes. So we better move ourselves very fast. And, um, you know,

00:38:43.820 the, as I said, the, the, because I, I, I deal with, um, the problems of women in this, in this book,

00:38:50.140 there was a limit is that I'm not one, I'm not one of, I'm one of them and I've never been,

00:38:56.300 and I will never, and I will never be. So, so clearly I, I, I couldn't, I couldn't say more than,

00:39:02.060 than my opinions. So to, to add some credibility to, to my thoughts, I, I took this approach to have

00:39:09.740 half of the book, uh, where I interviewed women on how they were actually doing it. And, uh, I found

00:39:18.220 that this part of the book was, uh, fascinating in showing us, um, that in, in reality, a lot of women 0.98

00:39:25.580 are already doing the job and they are doing this approach to gain back real freedom because

00:39:32.300 real freedom comes with autonomy, not from dependence of the state. That's right.

00:39:37.020 From the state. Now, generally though, when it comes to planning for the future,

00:39:41.740 do you think that's more of a male brain thing than a woman thing? 1.00

00:39:46.460 Well, traditionally it was not the case. If one looks at history, one sees that, um,

00:39:51.420 women are, are tend to be more conservative than men, uh, and therefore more caring about, uh,

00:39:58.140 the children at the future. It's only in the recent years then, um, then women have been, um, 0.99

00:40:06.060 less concerned about their family and the future. And this was, this was the initial paradox that I

00:40:11.740 started upon. Uh, I can give you some examples during the, during the, um, uh, French revolution 200,

00:40:18.780 200 years ago. Uh, it was the woman who wanted to keep the king. During the Iranian revolution in 1979,

00:40:27.260 it was the woman who wanted, uh, the more traditional, uh, Islamic, uh, uh, system rather than the more 0.99

00:40:35.500 modern, um, uh, Shah, uh, the kingdom. So, so sometimes in traditional societies, um, women are the,

00:40:45.500 the guardians of tradition and where men are a little bit more entrepreneur and, and want to go,

00:40:51.660 uh, more to the, to, to try new things. Today is different. Women are much less traditional than, 1.00

00:40:58.940 than it used to be. Yeah. Cause you made a comment too, in the book, you said, feminism made women so 1.00

00:41:03.540 free. They forgot to think about the future. I believe so. I believe so. I mean, we know that

00:41:09.660 family units are absolutely the best. I mean, we can't survive without that, but there's, there

00:41:15.100 has been exceptions to the rule. And I often wonder with a lot of, uh, the feminists in the early days, 1.00

00:41:20.700 if it wasn't a lot of women who weren't part of the status quo, like spinsters or lesbians or 1.00

00:41:26.860 outcasts, what do you think about that? Yes. Or bourgeois once, once again, if you, if you look at the,

00:41:32.940 at the, at the, what, what you find is that the early feminists were, um, the bourgeoisie were the, 1.00

00:41:39.100 the, the, the, the fairly wealthy, uh, not the super wealthy, but the fairly wealthy. And, um,

00:41:45.340 and it was also the, um, uh, if you look at the technically who they were, you have a lot of the,

00:41:50.860 of Jewish intelligentsia, uh, both with the communist, uh, on the communist part and also on the, um,

00:41:59.020 liberal part. So there you do find this approach of trying to make other people's happiness despite

00:42:06.300 them, which is a typical approach of, um, of those communities, which always ends in disaster,

00:42:12.220 by the way. And also I want to ask, do you know how the concept of a dual household income started

00:42:17.420 affecting the economy negatively? Well, yes, that, and also the divorce rate, because think of all the,

00:42:25.740 the, all the, the apartment, the construction that, uh, is needed because people don't, uh,

00:42:31.420 stay together. Uh, if people stay together, you have, uh, half the fridges, half the houses,

00:42:35.980 half the, half the furniture. Um, the economy has benefited enormously from the, the social,

00:42:44.700 societal disaster that has been a disorder, uh, the, the sexual revolution, divorce and all that.

00:42:51.340 I'm not saying that you shouldn't, you shouldn't be allowed to divorce or having the life you want,

00:42:56.620 but de facto, when you look at it, when you analyze it, you see that while it was a economical

00:43:02.140 success for a while, it has been a social and emotional disaster.

00:43:06.860 From the man's perspective, you know, what was the reason for limiting some of the rights of women? 0.98

00:43:11.740 I think in many cases they were, they were being protective,

00:43:14.220 not abusive like the movies portray. And some of it was just semantics. I think.

00:43:18.220 It was also the, the, one has to remember that, for example, democracy in many, many countries

00:43:27.900 was not for all men. It was only for men who had property. So it's not true that men had

00:43:37.260 rights and women don't. It was rich men who had rights and poor men and women had, didn't have those 0.96

00:43:45.820 rights. And I'm even, and even into that extent, I'm not, there was, it has never been the case that

00:43:51.660 women or other men had no rights. It was just less rights because even, even slaves had rights. Uh,

00:43:58.700 so, so one has to, one has to always look at the legal system country by country, uh, epoch by epoch.

00:44:05.900 But certainly one has to remember that this has never been, there has never been in history. Even

00:44:10.860 when men were, were more, um, uh, clearly there was a patriarchal society, for example, in, in some,

00:44:17.820 in Athens, the Athenian democracy was patriarchal, but a few hundred miles away, Sparta, Sparta was not

00:44:25.740 patriarchal. Sparta had Queens and the rights of women in Sparta were the same as men. They could

00:44:32.060 inherit, they could own land, they could, uh, divorce, they could, they, they had a lot of

00:44:36.380 land. So sometimes one has to be very, um, detail in how one looks at that. Even for example, um,

00:44:44.700 for example, if you look at war, uh, today it's, uh, it's quite funny to see, uh, the armed forces full

00:44:50.700 of men and transvestites and, and very odd, odd people to be fighters. However, one can see that 0.92

00:44:58.940 there are some incredibly strong, uh, figures of women throughout history who, who have had,

00:45:05.420 uh, uh, who were queens, who were, uh, fighters, uh, who were explorers, who were scientists,

00:45:12.620 but of course this was not the norm. This was not, uh, uh, what was common.

00:45:18.060 And some of the fighters like Boudicca was just out of sheer necessity at the time.

00:45:22.860 As well. Yeah. But the norm was that women were needed by men to help them and, and with 0.79

00:45:30.060 reciprocity to tend the fields, to tend the animals, to look after and, and, and help the,

00:45:36.220 the children, uh, be educated. And, um, and so it has never been, the war of the sexes has never

00:45:42.540 happened. The war between the genders is, is an, is an invention of cultural relativism and cultural 0.86

00:45:49.180 Marxism. Uh, people always saw themselves, uh, in good and bad times as a partnership.

00:45:55.500 And, um, and this was whether, whether it was under the, the, the, the religion of Christianity

00:46:01.660 or, or whatever, still the normal people were seeing each other with affection, with love,

00:46:07.980 but with necessity of staying together. Yeah. A lot of times people think of the matriarchal 1.00

00:46:13.500 societies as being more pagan or goddess worshipy or something, you know, twisted in their mind.

00:46:19.180 And then the, the patriarchal, they think of Christianity, but does society have to be

00:46:24.220 either or can't it be something else? It should be a blend of the two. Don't you think?

00:46:29.660 Yeah. And the, the, the, the idea of what we want in the future is something that we all need to,

00:46:35.020 to think, uh, today. And I think that the time is, is now has now come to, to really reassess

00:46:41.900 what women really want, what men really want. Because I also, I'm the one, I believe that men

00:46:48.540 are not super happy anymore. Uh, just as women are not happy anymore because you know, even if 1.00

00:46:54.460 promiscuity is high in the end, so what you have no children who look like you, you have no children 0.99

00:46:59.660 who will take care of you when you're old. Uh, it's a civilizational disaster and, uh, we cannot

00:47:05.740 regress to that. So we, we have to think hard on how we, we redesign the values that build our

00:47:12.380 societies. And to some extent we can look into the past to, to get lessons from, for, from what

00:47:19.180 worked and what, but what didn't, but also look at perhaps new, new ways to, to, to look at things.

00:47:24.860 But the safe bet is that as you, you work towards tradition, um, you are pretty safe.

00:47:32.060 Well, Piero, I, I really want to thank you and I want to be sure that you let everyone know how

00:47:36.860 they could buy your book and give us your website details.

00:47:39.580 Now the book is published by a club Orlov. People might know Dimitri Orlov, which is a

00:47:45.260 quite a famous author in the U S is has, he has started to publish books. I'm quite happy to be, uh,

00:47:50.940 one of the books he is publishing in the U S and the book can be found on Amazon. And, uh,

00:47:55.820 you just type either my name, Piero San Giorgio, uh, or a woman on the verge of societal breakdown.

00:48:02.460 And it's easy to find. And people can, of course, uh, link on my Facebook and my YouTube.

00:48:07.740 Um, I promise I will do more videos and messages in English.

00:48:11.500 Well, thank you. This is such an important topic. And I think we need to talk about this now more

00:48:15.420 than ever. The relationships between European men and women, especially are, are endangered in a lot

00:48:21.180 of ways right now. So we need to work on healing that and restoring that. So thank you so much for

00:48:26.140 writing this book and for your generous time today. You're welcome. Thank you very much.

00:48:30.780 More and more European women are starting to understand how liberal policies combined with mass 0.99

00:48:35.660 immigration is a disaster that will affect their quality of life on every level. 1.00

00:48:40.220 They're finding that they have to think about heavy things they didn't have to think about before.

00:48:44.380 And that's why the majority of white women voted for Trump. As a reminder, this Saturday, 1.00

00:48:49.500 November 19th, we will be live streaming from the NPI alt-right conference in Washington, DC.

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Radio 3Fourteen - November 14, 2016

Women on the Verge of Societal Breakdown

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