00:00:00.000is that whole idea of drinking apple cider vinegar when you wake up and it improves your
00:00:07.020metabolism or something is that just like an old wives tale or wasn't jordan peterson like eating
00:00:14.280bacon and drinking apple cider vinegar and then he died he claimed that the apple cider vinegar
00:00:23.120like put him into like a coma for like days or something wow but was he only doing vinegar
00:00:31.640basically oh he was i think he was on a carnivore diet that his weird daughter put him on she calls
00:00:38.520it like lion diet where you only eat beef and salt like you don't even eat other other not lions
00:00:43.900it's literally just like beef and salt and then he said and i i i had like a sip of apple cider
00:00:51.540of vinegar and i was like comatose for three days that is he literally wow he's really neurotic
00:00:59.240i i definitely i i'm more or less a believer in the primal diet i know you are a pete
00:01:07.460aficionado or a member of the pete cult um rfh but i'm uh more of a i the primal diet always
00:01:17.740made a lot of sense when i read about it it's been a long time like 15 years ago it appeals to
00:01:24.760i would say right-wingers and racists for very obvious reasons um i i have a paleo background
00:01:31.940myself that was like the first thing i got into um but there's actually quite a bit of a lot of
00:01:38.820overlap between the two even if the macros are very different in what they believe the you're
00:01:45.280eating a lot of kind of the same foods and both of them really demonize um well i guess people
00:01:51.400call it seed oils but when i was paleo we called it vegetable oil right so they're both very against
00:01:57.020that and they're both very pro coconut oil yeah that is that is interesting i mean it does there
00:02:03.500is a right-wing quality to primal dieting in the sense that you're trying to get back to like a
00:02:10.660hunter-gatherer type you know way and yes it so it is kind of inherently conservative
00:02:18.740yes um so i popular libertarians as well definitely um you know that's where this
00:02:28.880high protein thing came from the libertarians did the high protein thing they birthed yeah
00:02:34.640rfa or rfk rather it kind of that's why everything's protein slapped onto it now
00:02:40.040it's like um there's like a whole like politics of meat that like radfams have been talking about
00:02:46.280there's a whole book called this since like the 70s but yes the the whole like protein
00:02:51.480obsession absolutely is very conservative and right-wing in nature yes because boomers like
00:02:59.760to grill so they they like it appeals to them it's pandering to them and then as i said there
00:03:07.480there is something a kind of libertarian alt-right not necessarily even christian not christian i
00:03:15.140would say right-wing mentality where you sort of like the idea of like going you know the way of
00:03:22.520the ancestors basically and that is the primal diet yes it's also very rebellious which they
00:03:29.180like too because the government was telling you don't eat red meat vegetarianism is good so they
00:03:35.380love being like no i'm gonna eat bacon all day yeah there there is a lot to that there's no doubt
00:03:45.720about it um we were actually talking uh last night about this the conservative brain and how
00:03:57.160And I think I've joked about this before a few times, but how conservative, you know, sometimes these cliches are accurate.
00:04:07.440Like when people say, oh, like conservatives, they're just 10 years behind.
00:04:11.120Or, you know, I remember saying this back when I was blogging for TakiMag or AlternativeRight.com or something where it was like conservatives will oppose something and then they'll lose in their opposition and then five years on they'll claim that it was a conservative thing all along.
00:04:33.560So civil rights, best example of that. All of these voters who came to the Republican Party precisely solely due to opposition to desegregation, they obviously oppose civil rights.
00:04:51.220national review opposed it although in a bit more tenuous manner and they lose this battle
00:04:58.000and then five years later national review is like well you know the conservatism of mlk and
00:05:04.680the civil rights act is truly a libertarian document when you think about and it's not like
00:05:09.620they're entirely wrong but it it's just this like self-serving way in which they act and think and
00:05:19.040gay marriage was another one so they were just like laughing oh gay marriage what's next you're
00:05:24.460gonna marry your dog or whatever and then they lose the battle and then five years later it's
00:05:29.000like we need to bring gay citizens into the communion of marriage like you know it's a
00:05:35.080conservative policy like that we always support it they're they're just they just always do this
00:05:40.800like every issue is like this actually with conservatives and i but i i think there's
00:05:48.280something much deeper going on as well that i can't fully explain because what we were talking
00:05:56.100about are more recent trends so i'm old enough to remember because i've been an adult for 27 years
00:06:04.74029 wow three decades of adulting it's the yeah i'm still bad at um filling out forms and so on
00:06:15.280But anyway, so I can remember back in the early 2000s when, like, anti-vaccination ideology and JFK conspiracy theories, if you held those views, you were 100% someone who lived in, like, Whitefish, Montana and owned an independent bookstore.
00:06:44.480or like made your own granola or you know we're like a former hippie i mean it was it left coded
00:06:53.640like without even any question jf the jfk the phenomena that when it was really intense was
00:07:00.120with oliver stone's movie in the 1990s it was 100 liberal coded and vaccination stuff that came out
00:07:09.140with jenny mccarthy and uh it was you're like a you're a cool slightly weird suburban housewife
00:07:18.680or something and you're in like i'm not vaxxing my kids why would you do put chemicals into their
00:07:23.580body what else you know do you feed them corn syrup and cornstarch like it was so left-coded
00:07:30.660and then 20 years later all of these things are right-coded and i don't it's it's so many i mean
00:07:38.640these are all anecdotal examples but it's it's so consistent that it has to be getting at something
00:07:45.820deeper another thing like we're all everyone here is old enough to remember the obsession with blue
00:07:52.740hair you have died okay gotta mute guys automatically who is that okay you're
00:08:03.160automatically muted when you come in you gotta mute um but blue hair was the the symbol of being
00:08:15.860an sjw or leftist i i i'm not even exaggerating right now i think if you see someone with blue
00:08:25.060hair and a nose earring she's almost coded as maga now don't you like don't you think
00:08:32.880like there's something about being like 10 years behind the trend that's just very consistent and
00:08:43.860very conservative i don't know if i accidentally muted you rfh but yes or you did there um
00:08:53.480yeah i mean this has been like a discourse with liberals a lot lately just in terms of like
00:09:00.520clothing in particular it's it's like almost like they they've switched like you see conservatives
00:09:07.480now dress as liberals did like 10 years ago kind of kind of hipstery kind of alt
00:09:14.260like tattoos yeah tattooed weird hair weird things when you see someone like in because i
00:09:24.620graduated from high school in 1997 so this has been wow so old but um that was when tattoos
00:09:32.020which had been basically the provenance of of criminals military super weirdos
00:09:43.760or drug users like you didn't have a tattoo that wasn't a thing and even when you saw sports
00:09:50.660figures like the nfl games no tattoos and now it's ubiquitous if not universal in fact but like
00:10:00.480a guy wearing jeans and like an untucked shirt who has tattoos up his arm or something 20 years ago
00:10:08.760that man is a liberal hips hipster taking his cues from like williamsburg uh brooklyn that is
00:10:16.180now when you see that man you're like oh wow he's a trump tard
00:10:19.860it's yeah it keeps it's everything now that it's not edgy anymore because 20 years ago too
00:10:28.280having any sort of visible tattoo it precluded you from any sort of office work yeah but you
00:10:35.400could not get hired in many places having any sort of tattoo like that on you that's why it was like
00:10:40.580people in the military people in prison like it you didn't have that it really like
00:10:47.120it really limited your options employment wise and like your your economic social mobility
00:10:54.740now that they're everywhere and it's normal to have a tattoo is like my last job i worked at
00:11:00.800like a fortune 400 finance company and all my zoomer co-workers had tattoos and it was fine
00:11:06.880like visible tattoos and this was normal and it's almost like weirdly conservative coded and i know
00:11:14.300the tattoo craze is very widespread but it's almost like conservative coded or something in
00:11:22.860a certain way like you have a little like artsy tattoo and that means that you live in the burbs
00:11:30.360and you go to um go to a mega church or go to a church called like fresh life or something
00:11:38.720and but then you also were like skeptical of trump but when rfk got on board well i was all in
00:11:47.420yeah like you're that type of person it's like conservative coded to be tattooed
00:11:53.820like i think we're there yeah because now that it's become so over saturated it's everywhere
00:11:59.660now they jump on board because they're never leading the way with anything they're never like
00:12:06.060at the forefront they're never edgy they're never forward thinking i don't know like they never take
00:12:12.200a risk they're they're more risk averse they're less high in openness so now that tattoos are
00:12:18.900accepted and common and the liberals they move on from things and the conservatives now they
00:12:26.540discover and they're like oh and they think it's cool yeah it has to be oversaturated and in a way
00:12:33.460the trend has to be over and then they jump on it and you were saying like the the the big five
00:12:40.540personality traits so ocean openness conscientiousness extroversion uh agreeableness
00:12:48.260and neuroticism i believe and so it's one of these psychological things where they're i mean i'm even
00:12:54.580kind of skeptical of this stuff like sam vatkin talks about like the whole field of psychology
00:13:01.340is sort of suspect or it's it's like the whole field is kind of like we're putting words on
00:13:08.680things but we have no real knowledge of causality you know it's like you know i'm diagnosing you
00:13:15.580with bpd disorder well okay but where what is what is going on exactly is there is that a gene
00:13:23.360is that you're sort of finding categories