00:00:21.840If we think about geopolitics as a chessboard, the Russian model is to win the battle by
00:00:28.300making your opponent lose their structure, by creating chaos in the middle of the board of
00:00:36.220your opponent. And so with Ayn Rand, I think we now see what the actual effect of this hyper
00:00:44.260individualism that is basically taking this some element, a really crucial element of the American
00:00:51.360system, which is individual rights. I think in many ways, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights
00:00:58.100is probably the highest articulated philosophical structure that talks about the sovereignty and
00:01:06.220the dignity of the individual in relationship to the collective and the state. And so with Ayn
00:01:11.880Rand is that this whole idea of the sovereign soul individual, who's basically also a new man
00:01:20.340in some ways. It's throwing off the burden of the society and rules and norms and all these
00:01:28.520kinds of things has ended up in a politics, I believe, of nihilism and an economics that
00:01:37.000ultimately has overthrown the American system. Because there's something really important
00:01:42.080at the core of the best of the American system that it really is a dynamic equation between the
00:01:49.200individual and the body of the body politic or the collective or the nation. And it's in the
00:01:55.980framing documents. We talk about the commonwealth. We talk about we the people in relationship to,
00:02:02.340we don't say we the persons, we say we the people. So there's some kind of directly implied
00:02:07.100philosophy that it's not just hyper loan capitalism is really the American system.
00:02:14.540And so I really believe that we're at the end of this kind of equation, which then manifests itself in so many different ways culturally and politically.
00:02:25.900Now, there's a whole set of different like deep geopolitics and espionage that I believe then actually go along with that, that then ultimately end up in where we are today in terms of the Middle East.
00:02:37.620Let me back up a little bit just to make sure I understand what you're proposing.
00:02:42.400So when you say a sort of right wing nihilist quality to Ayn Rand, here's some thoughts that come to mind. You can let me know if I'm on the right track. But in both of her two major novels, Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead, there is a nihilistic energy that comes at the culmination of these stories, including Howard Rourke.
00:03:08.360i haven't read these in a while but he destroys a building because another architect screwed up
00:03:15.320his vision or the contractor or something like that and there's a sort of sense of if it can't
00:03:21.460be right if it can't be true to my ideals and it shouldn't even exist we're just going to tear it
00:03:27.600down i believe that's the culmination of the book and then in atlas shrugged she takes the germ of
00:03:33.880that idea and expands it further so atlas shrugging atlas is holding up the universe of course but he
00:03:40.100just shrugs he lets it go and all of these amazing capitalists and maybe artists as well but she's
00:03:47.700focusing on the railroad magnets and so on they just get up and go and they go to galt's gulch
00:03:54.540and hang out and society just collapses without these great men running it so i think what gives
00:04:03.560What makes Ayn Rand, in a way, interesting is that there's a little bit of a nihilistic quality to it, that passive-aggressive, you could even say, quality.
00:04:13.460That's what sets her apart, in fact, from other libertarians.
00:04:18.840I think that's probably the source of her continued popularity, even to this day.
00:04:23.520I would imagine undergraduates everywhere are buying a dog-eared copy of The Fountainhead in their local bookstore.
00:04:30.200And there's also something that I've noticed about her as well. I believe in the original edition of We the Living, there was a quotation from Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra or something like that, Beyond Good and Evil, Chestnut, and she erased it from subsequent manuscripts because Nietzsche was getting a little associated with Germany, of course, and the Nazis, fairly and unfairly, I would say.
00:04:58.900And there does seem to be an almost like in the aesthetic, even in the aesthetic of the book covers that came to define her works, there is this almost quasi Bolshevik quality to it.
00:05:13.420If you look at the art that is inspired by Ayn Rand and Bolshevik propaganda, I think you'd find actually a lot of commonalities. So she was the anti-Bolshevik that was so anti she became a Bolshevik.
00:05:28.600And she certainly was, as in terms of her private life, we won't talk about her love life. That's another story altogether. But in terms of her private life, she is a cult leader. And all of the qualities you could associate with that sort of puritanical, purity spiraling, quasi schizophrenic, you're not with me, you're against me type attitude.