RadixJournal - Based Bloomberg？

00:00:00.840 It's Monday, February 17th, and welcome back to the McSpencer Group.

00:00:07.460 We've already frisked over 600,000 ethnic minorities, and we're ready for more.

00:00:13.520 Top issue. Based Bloomberg?

00:00:16.760 Everyone's asking, will America elect a racist New York City billionaire as president?

00:00:22.720 Again?

00:00:24.160 Former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg has thrown his hat into the ring

00:00:28.380 and spent hundreds of millions on ads, paid endorsements, Trump cringe videos on Instagram, and more.

00:00:35.540 He's got the media on his side, and it all seems to be working.

00:00:39.500 But who is this man?

00:00:41.240 The panel looks back at Bloomberg's controversial stop-and-frisk policies as the triumph,

00:00:46.680 and last gasp, of social science-based politics and even race realism.

00:00:52.080 Love him or hate him, Mike inaugurates an age of neoliberal totalitarianism.

00:00:58.380 Ed and Keith, welcome back.

00:01:03.100 Well, Bloomberg has risen.

00:01:08.040 He is clearly in it to win it.

00:01:10.920 I don't think anyone should call this a vanity campaign at all.

00:01:17.500 He is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on his presidential bid,

00:01:21.500 and that might be a small fraction of his total net worth,

00:01:27.220 but $100 million is $100 million, and it is also clearly working.

00:01:32.920 He is trying everything.

00:01:35.160 He is getting the mainstream media approval.

00:01:37.600 He's getting endorsed by old, fogey journalists like Sam Donaldson.

00:01:42.660 He's having large rallies.

00:01:44.740 He is, I mean, I hate to even say this, doing well in the meme-osphere.

00:01:51.520 He has hired internet influencers who create those, you know, like Keith as one person he's hired.

00:02:00.000 I am available for hire.

00:02:03.260 Yeah, I mean, throw me $10,000 a month, and we'll boost your campaign for a little bit.

00:02:09.780 I'll do it for fractions of that, you know.

00:02:11.460 The Irish are undercutting the ankle. 1.00

00:02:16.800 I don't care how often it is.

00:02:19.140 We have much less self-esteem, and we'll do it for far less.

00:02:25.940 But, yeah, so he is dominating.

00:02:28.620 I promise it'll be on time, though.

00:02:30.280 Yeah, well.

00:02:32.000 It'll be shouting at work, you know.

00:02:36.280 But, yeah, he's doing all of these memes.

00:02:40.560 So this is a real thing.

00:02:42.220 I think his name was on the ballot in Iowa and New Hampshire, but he was not really contesting those.

00:02:50.180 He's basically foregone the initial primaries because he wasn't quite ready, but he is in them now.

00:02:58.800 And keep in mind, I mean, Bloomberg is a billionaire through Wall Street, but not as an investor himself, really.

00:03:06.900 I'm sure he now has billions invested, of course.

00:03:09.520 But he created this through the Bloomberg Terminal, which is this kind of fascinating and also kind of now weirdly archaic but still highly useful machine.

00:03:23.340 I've never used one because I've never worked on Wall Street.

00:03:26.160 But what I've heard, you can basically do everything with keystrokes.

00:03:30.380 It was kind of like the Internet before that existed, and everyone had one.

00:03:36.060 And if you – I mean, to not have one would be unthinkable.

00:03:40.760 You could book a plane ticket.

00:03:42.140 You could sell stocks.

00:03:43.820 You could buy a future.

00:03:46.060 You could buy a commodity all on this one terminal.

00:03:49.800 And it became this staple of Wall Street.

00:03:52.700 I don't know if it's used in the city of London or elsewhere.

00:03:55.580 But, yes, he became insanely wealthy by offering this service to Wall Street.

00:04:03.100 But the point I'm making is that he is all about data, and he has tremendous amounts of data.

00:04:13.060 In his controversial comments, we can see his empirical mindset.

00:04:19.300 And he can use that data to understand what's possible and how he can win, and it's clearly working.

00:04:28.700 I think it's much to say he's the frontrunner right now.

00:04:32.000 He's kind of the frontrunner in the minds of many in the mainstream media.

00:04:36.400 And he is effectively buying a campaign because, as Trump said in one of his amusing tweets, he is a mass of dead energy.

00:04:49.140 He has almost zero charisma and zero humor. 0.91

00:04:53.480 He just appears on there as a, I don't know, almost kind of dull yet cynical billionaire.

00:05:01.240 Yet, it is clearly working.

00:05:05.720 And so, as he is a major candidate, he is getting heat.

00:05:11.140 And this first major controversy of his campaign came from a Twitter user, who I think happens to support Bernie, but I don't think that's actually quite significant, who leaked audio.

00:05:29.280 He didn't really leak it.

00:05:30.480 He simply discovered it.

00:05:31.560 It was out there.

00:05:32.340 It was said in public, and I believe at Aspen Institute Conference, about the New York City policing regime that he inherited and expanded dramatically and then ended and ultimately apologized for.

00:05:51.880 95% of your murders and murderers and murder victims is one of them.

00:05:59.800 You can just take the description, zero access, and pass it out to all the cops.

00:06:04.100 They are male, minority, 16, 25.

00:06:07.040 That's true in New York.

00:06:07.960 It's true in virtually every city.

00:06:10.540 And that's where the real time, you've got to get the guns out of the hands of the people that get killed.

00:06:15.440 So you thought, if you want to spend the money, put a lot of cops in the street, put those cops, we have the crime, and put them in minority neighborhoods. 1.00

00:06:23.480 So this is one of the unintended consequences is people say, oh my God, you are arresting kids for marijuana that are all minorities.

00:06:34.320 Yes, that's true.

00:06:35.840 Why?

00:06:36.360 Because you put all the cops in minority neighborhoods. 0.97

00:06:38.940 Yes, that's true.

00:06:39.820 Why do you do it?

00:06:40.540 Because that's where all the crime is.

00:06:41.800 And the way you get the guns out of the kids' hands is to throw them against the wall.

00:06:47.640 And first, they get them, and they start, they say, oh, I don't want to get caught.

00:06:52.020 So they don't bring the gun.

00:06:53.540 They still have a gun, but they leave it at home.

00:06:58.060 And this is mostly known as stop and frisk.

00:07:02.980 And it was a regime.

00:07:05.460 I actually lived in New York City during the height of stop and frisk.

00:07:09.500 Yet, for some reason, I was never stopped or frisk.

00:07:14.480 But it was basically an idea of, in Bloomberg's words, throwing people up against the wall.

00:07:22.640 And even if they have not committed a crime, but simply stopping questioning suspects, searching them.

00:07:30.680 And seeing if they had a gun on hand, basically creating a kind of chilling effect for criminals that the police are going to be proactive.

00:07:42.660 They are not exactly pre-crime in the minority sense report, but they're going after you.

00:07:49.340 They're looking at everything.

00:07:50.440 And the fact is, this was part of this long-term trend in New York City, from New York being still fabulously wealthy, but also known for crime, lots of petty crime.

00:08:09.900 This squeegee guy who would come and wash your car, whether you liked it or not, and then demand payment. 0.98

00:08:17.060 Prostitutes and so on. 0.96

00:08:17.940 I can remember as a young person in the, I think it was the late 80s, visiting New York City with my parents when I was, you know, around 10 years old or so. 0.97

00:08:27.920 And we went to a Broadway show and we went to a Broadway show and the museums and all that kind of stuff.

00:08:31.520 But being in Times Square late at night, and it was like what you could imagine.

00:08:42.460 These, you know, prostitutes and, you know, outlandish purple garb and so on. 0.59

00:08:49.260 Petty crime everywhere. 0.83

00:08:51.140 A lot of people up to no good.

00:08:52.940 Returning to New York City in the turn of the century, it was vastly different.

00:08:58.280 Giuliani and company had created effectively a big, expensive, luxury shopping mall.

00:09:04.520 And Times Square was unrecognizable.

00:09:08.140 Whether you think that this is, you know, great or whether maybe some of the grit and grime has been lost and some of the character of New York City's loss is up to you.

00:09:18.380 But the fact is, it happened.

00:09:20.060 New York City is an exceptionally safe place, particularly thinking about the demographics of the city and so on.

00:09:29.240 But, you know, at the end of the day, this is a, you know, triumph of, you could say, identity politics over social science based policing.

00:09:41.700 And the stop and frisk has collapsed and Bloomberg has apologized for it.

00:09:47.780 Now, I could go into a couple of statistics, which I'm sure Ed will love.

00:09:52.200 But do you, do anyone want to jump in before I go into that?

00:09:58.880 No, I think you should go into the statistics, because otherwise, whatever you said is just, you know, it's not really backed up.

00:10:04.720 Yeah, I know, yes.

00:10:06.220 Okay, so this is, so stop and, again, he, what he was doing ultimately derives from an article written in the Atlantic Monthly that was co-authored by a man named James Wilson, who died recently, called Broken Windows.

00:10:26.260 And basically, it was this kind of triumph of neoconservative social science, in the sense that, no, we actually don't need more welfare to stop crime.

00:10:40.560 No, we don't need more after school programs or night basketball leagues and all of these things that kind of liberals threw it through at the wall. 1.00

00:10:48.860 None of it stuck.

00:10:50.620 No, what we need to do is basically enforce the laws against small things, keep everything very nice, tidy, and clean, and that this will have an overall chilling effect on all crime.

00:11:05.160 So basically, if you expect to be, you know, picked up by the police and thrown up against a wall for jumping a turnstile on the subway, you're going to be really afraid to go rob someone's apartment or store, and you're going to be even more afraid to engage in, you know, more heinous crimes.

00:11:25.300 So this was the Broken Windows idea.

00:11:27.800 It had tremendous effect on Giuliani's 1990s mayorship, and certainly end to Bloomberg.

00:11:36.720 There was basically a 20-year period of, you could say, neoconservative rule in New York City, and that coincided with not only big financial run-ups and a couple crashes here and there, but also the city being transformed.

00:11:52.700 So can I answer with some numbers?

00:11:55.040 So it says here, in 1990, in New York City, there were 940, the death rate in New York State, I'm sorry, was 940 per 100,000 in 1990.

00:12:06.600 And then by 1995, it's collapsed down to 840 per 100,000.

00:12:14.340 Right.

00:12:14.500 And the turning point seems to be 1994, sorry, by 1997, it's 840, and the turning point seems to be 94.

00:12:21.760 So something radical happens in 94, and there's a collapse from 920 deaths per 100,000 down, 1997, it's down to 820.

00:12:35.400 And then it continues falling, they're not as steeply, down to 2010, 740 per 100,000 population, and then it climbs.

00:12:45.480 And it's now got back to where it was in 2004.

00:12:51.300 When did the climbing begin?

00:12:52.980 The climbing began in 2010.

00:12:54.980 Okay.

00:12:55.520 So that was basically at the tail end of the Bloomberg administration when stop and frisk was being cut down.

00:13:02.520 Now...

00:13:03.480 When did stop and frisk start?

00:13:04.920 Uh, stop and frisk, at least, I don't quite know when it started, but in terms of the, uh, effort at reporting was 2002.

00:13:15.580 So it was at the turnover between Bloomberg and, um, or Giuliani and Bloomberg, I believe.

00:13:22.080 Giuliani was, of course, the 9-11 mayor.

00:13:24.180 Giuliani was Republican, wasn't he?

00:13:26.080 And when did Giuliani start running New York?

00:13:28.140 When did he begin?

00:13:28.660 Uh, in the early 90s.

00:13:30.560 Right.

00:13:30.880 Well, this is when it changes.

00:13:31.900 Yes.

00:13:32.180 So you've got basically chaos, murder, and death.

00:13:34.820 Yes.

00:13:35.040 And then 1994 or 3 or 5, right about then, it just, boom.

00:13:40.300 Yes.

00:13:40.740 Goes down very quickly.

00:13:42.280 Very quickly.

00:13:43.020 And, again, this is obviously anecdotally, but I can remember, uh, I was actually doing this, um, like, playwriting, theater, acting program when I was a freshman in college or something.

00:13:56.460 And I remember being in Chelsea where this theater was, and it was run down, it was extremely gay, uh, you know, it was kind of the, what is it, Castro Street of New York City or something. 0.99

00:14:09.420 I remember visiting a friend of mine who lived in Chelsea in 2010, so that was, uh, you know, 10 years later, and none of those things were present.

00:14:19.780 It was no, it was not run down and gritty, and it was not even gay.

00:14:24.320 It was a bunch of financial people living in, you know, 400 square foot apartments paying $3,000 a month.

00:14:32.200 Well, I'd imagine, I'd imagine, I'd imagine that the, I'd imagine that the gayness would probably be negatively associated with the crime rate. 1.00

00:14:39.540 If they were bisexual, it would probably be positively associated, but if they were simply gay, then it would be negative. 0.90

00:14:43.740 Well, there's the, there's the old adage of, uh, you know, gays are the, um, uh, front line or the, the shock troops of gentrification.

00:14:53.120 And the basically gays, because they don't have families to worry about, they don't really care about the schools, uh, they will, they're willing to go live in a neighborhood that's a little bit more crime infested or gritty if it's cool and urban. 0.99

00:15:06.420 And then they'll set up, you know, pet stores and perfume shops and the, uh, rents and, and real estate values will go up. 0.91

00:15:14.440 And then 15 years later, bourgeois middle, you know, uh, families move in and then, you know, the whole neighborhood, you know, becomes boring and un-gay. 0.96

00:15:23.480 So, uh, that's generally the process that this takes.

00:15:27.720 Uh, we can talk about other things in New York City.

00:15:29.900 This could be a reason from a group, a group perspective why homosexuality stays in the population. 0.72

00:15:34.020 Yeah, it does.

00:15:36.420 There, there's this other thing that, uh, just because when I was in my twenties, I was living in New York City, kind of periodically, I went there right after college.

00:15:44.080 Then I was back, you know, at the height of, uh, stop and frisk and occupy wall street and all that kind of stuff.

00:15:50.500 Uh, and again, I'll get to the numbers soon, but there was this, um, thing called, uh, the Chinatown bus and basically go, you know, taking a flight from say New York City to Washington, not a long distance, but it can be expensive.

00:16:05.600 You go to the airport, blah, blah, blah, blah train Amtrak is really expensive for what you get.

00:16:11.220 Uh, and so there was this thing called the Chinatown bus that would, that would take illegal immigrants, mostly, uh, workers and Chinese restaurants to and fro Washington and New York City and Boston.

00:16:24.540 And it, the, the, the prices of this bus were insane.

00:16:28.640 It was like $5 or, you know, $20 at most, uh, you know, at least like 20 years ago, which even then was just insanely cheap for what you were getting.

00:16:38.900 And so basically it was this illegal immigrant, like caravan or transport service, but because they were, you know, a certain type of illegal immigrant, they're not going to do anything to you.

00:16:51.240 They're, they're cooking, you know, mushu pork or whatever.

00:16:53.960 All of these white hipsters started getting on the China bus phenomenon. 0.97

00:16:58.060 And of course we ruined it.

00:17:00.720 So now it's expensive and so on.

00:17:03.860 But yeah, there are these like waves of gentrification, uh, that go in, but let me just go in for some statistics about stop and frisk.

00:17:11.540 So the, the, the, when this was recorded in 2002, there were 97,000, uh, stops recorded, uh, that was starting to almost double every year in the beginning of Bloomberg's administration.

00:17:25.500 So it went to 160,000, 300,000, 400,000.

00:17:29.640 And then, uh, by 2011, we reached a absolute peak of, uh, of Bloomberg's policing efforts.

00:17:39.100 And there were actually 685,000, uh, over that, um, stop and stop question and frisk, uh, incidents.

00:17:50.100 And the overwhelming majority of these, 88% of them, of the people who were stopped and frisked were innocent.

00:17:57.060 That is, they were not committing any crime.

00:17:58.860 They're not carrying a gun.

00:17:59.720 So 600,000, 600,000 of those 685,000 were innocent.

00:18:04.680 Um, they were frisking, uh, of these people who were frisked, 53% of them were African-American.

00:18:12.880 Um, 34% were, I, I can't believe I'm saying this, Latinx or Latinx or, yeah, Hispanic or, anyway, that, this is how, this is in the, uh, New York City civil liberties.

00:18:26.200 They, they, they use the word Latinx, uh, and then 9% of them were white and half of them were basically in the age group that commits crime.

00:18:36.520 That's 14 to 24, you know, so this is where you get to this point of Bloomberg's a racist and he's stopping and frisking blacks. 0.78

00:18:45.880 Uh, and, uh, this is just some kind of totalitarian sadistic effort at intimidating African-Americans.

00:18:52.820 Uh, but if you look at the New York City's own crime data from 2011, uh, in, in terms of major, major crimes, um, that, you know, the ones that really matter, uh, this is what you get.

00:19:11.100 Uh, so I'm looking at murder and non-negligent, non-negligent manslaughter.

00:19:16.460 So, yeah, this is effective, you know, the real murder, uh, basically of the victims, 61, 62% of them were black, uh, 56% of the suspects and more or less the arrestees were African-American.

00:19:32.540 Um, 26% of the victims were Hispanic, uh, 35% of the suspects and the people arrested.

00:19:40.340 Uh, were Hispanic. 0.94

00:19:42.040 So, uh, and then you can go to robbery and you basically get very similar incidents, uh, which is that, uh, whites were 20% of the victims. 0.71

00:19:52.800 They were actually only 5% of the people arrested for robbery.

00:19:56.980 So robbery is interracial robbery is certainly a thing. 1.00

00:20:01.780 Um, blacks were 31% of the victims of robbery, but they were actually 70% of the suspects and 64% of the people arrested.

00:20:13.140 Uh, so Bloomberg is not incorrect.

00:20:17.980 He's a dull guy, but he's a smart guy when he says these, you know, outrageous things that are pissing off, you know, liberals and progressives and so on. 0.83

00:20:30.240 I don't, it wouldn't, the thing is it wouldn't, it wouldn't piss off blacks or Hispanics. 0.92

00:20:34.940 They would take the view.

00:20:36.140 I think that that's what I found about them, that they're practical.

00:20:38.900 In fact, there's, there's data on this of their practicality as well.

00:20:41.500 Their attitude is we don't want crime.

00:20:43.080 And so do something about it.

00:20:46.720 And they're very happy if, if crime is reduced.

00:20:49.640 Right.

00:20:49.860 It's the liberals that it's the liberals who are sheltered from crime because they're rich and they live in these areas where everyone's white.

00:20:56.900 And then they preach about the benefits of multiculturalism and multiracialism and all that.

00:21:01.120 But of course live in somewhere where they don't experience multiculturalism and multiracialism beyond going into a, uh, some corner of town where they can go and have a press a manger or whatever, you know, Indian meal or something.

00:21:13.880 They don't live with it.

00:21:15.180 And the consequences of it that will get upset about this.

00:21:18.060 And that will, of course, damage his chances of making it onto the ballot of the Democratic Party.

00:21:23.500 But it's not the minorities. 0.84

00:21:25.140 The minorities probably vote for it. 1.00

00:21:26.360 Uh, I agree with you to a very large extent.

00:21:32.000 Um, but, you know, the, the, I, maybe this is just my perspective, but it does seem like the, you know, at least the image of white cops stopping and frisking black people does get a lot of the minorities up in arms.

00:21:48.660 They don't like it. 0.84

00:21:49.300 But my, my major point with Bloomberg, and it, and it also demonstrates something, which is the triumph of politics over social science, which all of this is correct, but it ultimately doesn't matter if enough uppity white people yell about it.

00:22:05.080 And so Bloomberg is correct.

00:22:08.080 Yeah.

00:22:08.780 He is correct.

00:22:09.440 So they need to disguise the ethnicity of these white cops so that they don't realize they're white. 0.55

00:22:15.960 Not all of the cops are white.

00:22:17.240 I, I've looked up all this stuff.

00:22:18.960 So basically the police, uh, the, it's like 45, New York city as a whole is 45% white.

00:22:26.900 And we might there around the edges that might be a little bit deceiving just because of the, um, are, are you Hispanic or, you know, there, are you a non, non Hispanic white? 0.68

00:22:36.540 And there's a little bit of ambiguity in there, but more or less 45% of New York city's white.

00:22:41.400 Uh, the cops are a little bit, uh, whiter than the population, but not by a substantial amount.

00:22:48.480 So a, uh, tons of people, police engaging in stop and frisk were minorities.

00:22:54.340 Um, but anyway, Bloomberg is simply correct when he says that 80 to 90% of the rapes, robberies, murders are committed by minorities. 1.00

00:23:08.040 And by, and by minorities, he means blacks and Hispanics. 0.94

00:23:10.760 Uh, and even that is a little bit deceptive in the sense that 60 year old black ladies aren't committing any crimes outside of speeding or whatever. 1.00

00:23:20.320 And it is basically, uh, you know, the, the, the perpetrators are in a, a, a smallish group of people between the ages of 14 and 30, let's say, um, Hispanic and black use who are doing this.

00:23:35.040 And so if, if, if, if the blacks could operate, I mean, if the, the, uh, nation of Islam or some equivalent could operate some system where blacks between the ages of 14 and 30 were removed from the society as part of a sort of a gogi. 0.94

00:23:48.840 And, and, and inculcated with the martial values of, of the Spartans, um, between the ages of, well, it would be eight and 30.

00:23:57.380 Right.

00:23:57.600 And then, and then, and then permitted to leave, then the crime rate would be substantially reduced.

00:24:02.460 No question.

00:24:04.000 So something Spartan should be perhaps a ball in mind. 0.82

00:24:07.460 And as for these black old ladies that are done for speeding, they're probably speeding because they're late for church. 1.00

00:24:12.180 That's the general impression I get. 0.97

00:24:13.700 And so I think we should let them off that.

00:24:15.720 I think that's, that's, um, that's okay.

00:24:18.840 So, um, yeah, that's true.

00:24:20.940 It's, I like, I like honesty in politicians, but unfortunately in a world of, in a clown world run by lies, this is going to be used against him.

00:24:29.800 And the thing he has to do is not, and he had the problem.

00:24:32.060 He's done it wrong.

00:24:33.160 It's never apologize.

00:24:34.680 Never say, sorry, never back down. 1.00

00:24:37.280 Of course he has the silly idiot. 1.00

00:24:39.160 He never backed out. 1.00

00:24:40.400 If you do it, there's, there's actual data on this.

00:24:42.740 There's proper, uh, a number of replicated studies that indicate that in these kinds of situations where you're being criticized by a mob, if you back down, if you say sorry, it shows a, it shows weakness and they're bullies. 0.92

00:24:54.000 So they're bullies that want to kill.

00:24:56.060 So if you show weakness, you're, you're the weak, you, you, you go from being the gazelle in the middle of the pack that they're going for, because he's quite meaty to the gazelle pack that they can drag down. 0.90

00:25:04.580 So therefore it makes it worse.

00:25:06.360 They will double down on you.

00:25:07.740 And B, um, it, it means they, they become suspicious.

00:25:11.160 They start to think other people start to think, why is he saying sorry?

00:25:13.480 Has he got something to hide?

00:25:14.380 Is he dishonest?

00:25:15.120 Does he not mean what he says?

00:25:16.460 And so it damages him on every level.

00:25:18.220 It damages him among people that would be sympathetic to him because he's a truth teller.

00:25:21.660 If he apologizes, we think, oh, well, he's, he's slippery. 0.98

00:25:24.340 He's a snake. 0.95

00:25:25.120 We won't vote for him. 0.99

00:25:26.000 And it damages him among the woke mob of screaming, feminist, unnatural color hair, tattooed women who are going to be screaming about this. 0.64

00:25:34.100 And he's apologized.

00:25:35.500 So he's done.

00:25:36.180 That's the big, that's the brilliant thing about Trump.

00:25:38.580 Never. 0.99

00:25:39.220 I don't think he should even apologize about the grabbing by the pussy remark. 0.99

00:25:42.940 Never apologize. 0.99

00:25:44.220 Right.

00:25:44.380 He did apologize about that.

00:25:45.880 I think that was a mistake.

00:25:47.140 But otherwise, just no, never apologize.

00:25:50.700 And that's what he's done.

00:25:51.480 So I think he's, he's finished.

00:25:52.700 I don't think he's going to, he apologized.

00:25:54.720 You mustn't do that.

00:25:55.700 I get it.

00:25:56.420 I don't, I don't think Bloomberg's finished.

00:25:58.020 Sorry, Keith.

00:25:59.020 You've, you've been waiting there patiently.

00:26:01.680 Certainly like a, the, the good young Irish boy in the pub who waits his turn to speak while Ed and I are, are, are talking.

00:26:09.720 So, uh, please jump in, but I have a lot more to say.

00:26:13.740 I was, I was just waiting for you Anglos to finish with all your empirical data.

00:26:20.440 Get all the facts and stuff out of it early, you know.

00:26:22.920 But, uh, no, I don't think, I, I, uh, I've been thinking about it.

00:26:26.180 I actually think, uh, I'm certain to fancy Bloomberg to pick up the nomination and potentially win in 2020.

00:26:33.540 Um, it's, it's an interesting approach to basically ignore the, the white places like Iowa and, and target, you know, he's basically targeting the, the non-white voters.

00:26:44.260 It's, it's, it's, uh, an interesting tactic and it could be a sign of things to come because Bloomberg is really like New York itself is kind of, uh, as far along the sort of linear path of techno capital as any place in the world you'll find.

00:26:58.620 And then Bloomberg is like a proper expression of New York as well.

00:27:02.840 You know, he's a proper neoliberal, uh, mayor, like he ran as a Republican.

00:27:07.080 Now he's running as a Democrat.

00:27:08.580 And he is kind of a, I guess he's like kind of Rockefeller.

00:27:11.580 He's kind of a Rockefeller Republican.

00:27:13.740 Yeah.

00:27:14.260 And it's interesting as well, like Trump and Bloomberg have, uh, they can kind of a similar start in that, uh, I actually did a video today about, um, what happened to New York in the seventies, because all those transformations you're talking about in New York, this was very much, uh, a top down thing.

00:27:30.540 This was New York was like the first real test case together with maybe Pinochet's Chile of, uh, neoliberalism and of some of the ideas of, you know, the business round table and the Hoover Institute and all these people, uh, New York.

00:27:43.920 New York in 1975 was, uh, uh, in 1975 was, uh, uh, effectively about to go bankrupt.

00:27:47.740 And, uh, uh, that was in part due to, uh, the bankers, the investment bankers that had been lending money, refusing to roll over the dead.

00:27:55.120 And it was this incredible power grab in the mid 70s where this disorganization, eight out of nine of the panel were bankers, where bankers started to run the city of New York and started to slash social spending.

00:28:07.000 And it's an interesting test case because while the ideas around neoliberalism are sort of individual freedom and economic liberalism and lack of state and all this, what you see with the New York test case, and it happened as well under Reagan and other neoliberal administrations, is that actually the power of the state wasn't curtailed.

00:28:29.000 It was just redirected. And the power of the central governing body of New York was sort of redirected from social welfare to kind of corporate welfare.

00:28:39.840 And Trump got a start out of this because he got the biggest tax break in the history of New York state to start doing his developments and focused exclusively on these sort of central, more luxury developments aimed at this New York,

00:28:58.440 that the finance years were taken over. And at the same time, Bloomberg was working for an investment firm that doubled the revenue in the mid 70s at the time this was going on.

00:29:07.640 So this was a, you know, New York was completely reoriented. And those social transformations you're talking about, the liberalization of culture and New York becoming a very sort of cosmopolitan city that focused on sort of cosmopolitan sexual trends and consumerism and stuff.

00:29:24.520 So this was all a result of the empowerment of this elite. And so New York is kind of a perfect example of the direction that neoliberalism that our elites are bringing us.

00:29:36.660 You know, it's 44% white. It was almost 80% white in the early 70s. You know, it's Bloomberg, the Jewish mayor ruling over this sort of brown underclass. 0.88

00:29:47.720 It's a tale of two cities. You know, it has the super wealthy financial elite. It's the home of Wall Street. And then at the same time, it has obviously some very poor areas.

00:29:57.140 And Bloomberg is like the typical neoliberal politician. He's not very strongly ideological left or right. You know, he's kind of he's a moderate on most issues.

00:30:05.060 And he wasn't afraid to invest in infrastructure in New York and use the power of the state. But his government philosophy was basically growth and growth oriented.

00:30:14.320 And he basically ran New York like a business and that he was willing to invest in public infrastructure if it was going to be a big return on growth.

00:30:23.500 So Bloomberg sort of captures this model. You know, he's targeting non-white voters. He's ignoring white states. He's not ideological. His only ideology is basically neoliberalism and growth. 0.61

00:30:35.540 And I think Bloomberg is like the kind of perfect encapsulation of the values of the modern elite. And he's rapidly pro-Israel as well, probably the most pro-Israel candidate in the field.

00:30:46.420 So I think I think I think it's a toss up between Bernie and Bloomberg. But just because the establishment is so against Bernie, I'm always I'm almost tempted to think that Bloomberg is going to pull it out.

00:30:57.420 Also, my colleague, Heiner Rindemann, in his book, a very good book, Cognitive Capitalism.

00:31:05.200 And one of the things he argues about America is that the Bloomberg idea of clamp and of clamping down tiny things, you have to stop and frisk them, of the slightest thing is severely punished.

00:31:17.420 It's something that tends to happen in multiracial societies. It has to happen because there's nothing to hold them together in societies like Finland, traditionally, or Ireland, even traditionally, or England. 0.96

00:31:27.420 You're one big family who are related six or seven or eight generations back. You've got common ancestors. There's no. So you have a sort of almost of a love for each other, which is is there in America to some extent in certain parts of America and is promoted by religion and whatever.

00:31:42.740 But it's certainly much more difficult to achieve when you have a multi ethnic society and even more so with a multiracial society. 1.00

00:31:49.220 And so the only solution as well, if you want to have equality, if there has to be equality, everyone's equal before the law and you have a section of the society who are unruly, who have low impulse control, have low intelligence and can't behave, is to have extremely strict rules of conduct in public places.

00:32:05.580 And I've noticed that in America, that it's enforced. So whereas you might say in Finland, it's socially unacceptable to spit. It's just something you don't do.

00:32:14.720 In America, I see signs saying no spitting. Or in Finland, it's socially unacceptable to what you call in America, jaywalk. People do it. It's not against the law.

00:32:25.100 There's laws on it in America. Police can stop you from doing it. Being drunk in public. Again, people might frown upon being drunk in public. In America, you can be arrested for being drunk in public.

00:32:36.240 And there's all kinds of things like that, which in other countries are just it's just custom. And the custom is socially enforced because there's a bond between the people, which means there's unwritten rules.

00:32:46.320 And in America, that's just that seems a lot of things to be missing. It has to be legally enforced.

00:32:50.860 And I think I think Rudy Giuliani kind of got elected in the mid 90s, running on being tough on crime and taking a tougher stance.

00:32:59.220 And, you know, a lot of these social problems were directors, you know, the crack epidemic in the 80s.

00:33:03.260 A lot of stuff was a direct result of this massive social shift.

00:33:06.720 And then what you see in the 90s and 2000s is sort of the backlash of the middle class and of the, you know, the problems that this is that this is inflicting on them.

00:33:15.920 And then, yeah, they're willing to be tough with someone like Giuliani or Bloomberg.

00:33:20.140 And the middle classes in New York seem to be getting out now. 0.95

00:33:23.060 They seem to be moving out. They move out.

00:33:24.960 First of all, they've colonized. When I was first in New York in 2005, it was what was that place called in New York that Winston Churchill was from?

00:33:32.080 Dufner Bridge, Arthur Miller, that area of New York.

00:33:35.000 What's it called now? Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn.

00:33:40.240 And Brooklyn in those days, in 2005, was poor.

00:33:44.160 And when I was there in 2015, 10 years later, it was noticeably rich.

00:33:50.960 I mean, it had really changed this Brooklyn area.

00:33:54.740 And then they moved out.

00:33:55.400 Brooklyn is a really big area.

00:33:57.200 There are places, Williamsburg is probably most famous.

00:33:59.920 That went from zero to 100 in like five years.

00:34:04.100 And hipsters moved in.

00:34:05.180 And Park Slope, a place I've lived actually twice, is very bougie, kind of cool, hipster-y people.

00:34:14.700 A lot of people will move out of the city if they want to have children, but they want to remain more or less in New York City.

00:34:19.960 A lot of strollers in Park Slope.

00:34:22.940 So there are places like that.

00:34:24.380 But you can go to places in Brooklyn that are not exactly rich.

00:34:29.820 Let's put it that way.

00:34:31.500 The most extraordinary part of New York, I suppose, is a place called the Bronx.

00:34:35.280 Yes.

00:34:36.000 And then right next to the Bronx, literally, there's the Bronx, sort of, what do you call it, subway station.

00:34:40.840 Yeah.

00:34:41.260 And on one side of that subway station, there's the, I forget the name of the subway station.

00:34:44.580 On one side of it, something Park, something Dutch sounding, Van something Park.

00:34:49.240 And on one side is the Bronx, and on the other side is this place called Riverdale.

00:34:53.960 And Riverdale is like white and Jewish. 1.00

00:34:57.180 Yeah.

00:34:57.340 And there's people jogging around, and there's buildings with doormen standing outside, and whatever.

00:35:04.300 The 80s and 90s.

00:35:05.440 Alexandria.

00:35:06.520 Yeah, go ahead.

00:35:07.640 Alexandria Castillo-Cortez got elected in the Bronx, didn't she? 1.00

00:35:11.240 I think she is from there.

00:35:12.560 Yeah, I'm, it's funny, I feel almost, I'm forgetting a little bit of my New York City neighbourhoods.

00:35:18.580 But yeah, the 80s and 90s is, you can find, you can be in the Bronx, that is a neighbourhood

00:35:25.800 that I think most people, you know, listening to this would not be comfortable.

00:35:30.260 You could also go to places where most people listening to this couldn't even possibly afford

00:35:34.800 to buy a condominium there, and pay the doorman, and so on.

00:35:39.300 And it is a kind of, it is highly Jewish, but it's also kind of a vestige of WASP New York 0.82

00:35:44.360 as well.

00:35:45.560 That's the upper left side.

00:35:47.000 Van Cortland Park.

00:35:48.580 That was the name of the prize.

00:35:51.320 Yes.

00:35:52.000 But I guess, let me go a little bit more on the kind of neoliberal side, because, you

00:35:57.260 know, first off, the gun control issue is also something that Bloomberg gets nailed on

00:36:04.060 from, you know, the conservative movement type.

00:36:08.180 Conservatives, oh, he wants to take away your gun.

00:36:10.220 He doesn't, he wants to take away your big gulp and your gun.

00:36:13.000 You know, Bloomberg is also notorious among conservatives for banning big sugary drinks.

00:36:18.720 And so, yeah, this is like, this is what Stalin would do, you know, heaven forbid, not let you 0.92

00:36:23.720 become an obese slob. 0.93

00:36:24.940 But, you know, gun control in New York City, as I've said before, is not gun control in 0.72

00:36:31.980 Wyoming.

00:36:33.080 Gun control in Wyoming is, guns are part of our tradition, they're part of a sport that

00:36:38.040 we do.

00:36:38.780 We can defend ourselves, even though there's not anything like the crime that you might

00:36:42.940 have in New York City.

00:36:44.020 Why would you possibly want to take away your guns?

00:36:46.100 You must be totalitarian.

00:36:47.200 If you're living in New York City, you want to take away the guns to disarm the 14 to 30 1.00

00:36:54.000 year old Hispanic and African Americans who commit 90% of the crime. 1.00

00:36:58.700 It is a pure calculation in the sense of, you know, gun control can't work 100%, but it's

00:37:06.620 clearly going to work.

00:37:08.220 Otherwise, people wouldn't oppose it.

00:37:09.940 It becomes harder to have guns stopping and frisking people, creating that chilling effect

00:37:14.680 among the population makes it easier for white and Jewish bougie people to, you know, walk 1.00

00:37:22.800 around New York City and feel like they're on the top of the world.

00:37:26.000 And so there's just this fundamental disconnect.

00:37:28.440 But I think in a kind of funny way, as the whole country becomes a little more like New

00:37:35.520 York City, someone like Bloomberg becomes a viable option, where it's kind of like totalitarian

00:37:43.680 policing and controls in order to maintain this discombobulated, fragmenting social order.

00:37:53.660 And I don't think that will last.

00:37:54.540 Eternalistic liberalism.

00:37:55.840 Yeah.

00:37:56.300 Eternalistic liberalism.

00:37:57.280 That seems to be the model.

00:37:58.800 And this kind of, this kind of, this challenges something as well, which is popular among the

00:38:06.200 right that like, you know, the elites are bringing in all these immigrants because they want socialism, 1.00

00:38:10.840 they want communism, whatever.

00:38:12.460 But I mean, what you see is like, if the Democratic electorate was white, this would be between

00:38:16.900 Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

00:38:19.440 We'd have already elected Bernie Sanders.

00:38:21.640 And Trump would have already done all the stuff he actually talked about in 2016, which was

00:38:26.080 pretty socialist.

00:38:27.340 You know, yeah, Bloomberg is ignoring white voters.

00:38:29.860 And Biden has pretty much said he's waiting for the southern states.

00:38:33.820 He's waiting for his black contingent to come out.

00:38:35.860 So these, these centrist neoliberal candidates are able to sort of use the bio power of having

00:38:41.200 a mass of, of, of, uh, non-white migrants.

00:38:44.540 And yes, you actually see black, black Democrats actually, when they're pulled, they're far more

00:38:49.020 moderate or to the right economically than, uh, than white Democrats, which kind of came

00:38:55.020 as a surprise to me.

00:38:55.840 I kind of assumed that blacks would be, you know, Gibbs, very leftist, whatever, but they're 1.00

00:39:00.420 actually, they're actually much more moderate and they prop up moderate.

00:39:03.760 Can I add something there?

00:39:06.520 I mean, their sense of, they're not ideologues.

00:39:09.320 So it's the distinction that you always had in British politics or Irish politics or whatever,

00:39:13.800 that you get those who are upper middle class or something or wealthy and they're communist

00:39:17.980 or whatever it happens to be as a means of virtue signaling, as a means of creating a strong

00:39:22.880 identity for themselves, as a means of carving out a social niche, all these kinds of things

00:39:28.840 which allow them to elevate status.

00:39:31.400 That's where they come from.

00:39:32.760 And then there's these people that are communists because they're just poor because they're

00:39:35.820 born poor and their relatives are poor and all of their people that they're related to,

00:39:40.060 they're all poor.

00:39:40.880 They don't think about something like, I mean, again, it's like Iowa and New Hampshire are 0.62

00:39:48.300 effectively 90% white and Bernie got the most votes in both of those states.

00:39:53.340 And, you know, Medicare for all it's, it's obvious, look, it's not communism, obviously.

00:39:58.540 It's single payer for private medical services.

00:40:02.060 It's not communism.

00:40:04.380 And, but secondly, it's kind of orderly and it all makes sense.

00:40:08.660 We're all in this together.

00:40:10.380 This kind of socialism is backed up by a certain amount of social cohesion.

00:40:15.680 Going to, say, African-American voters in the South, I mean, you know, they're already 0.99

00:40:22.100 on Medicaid and you can just go to the emergency room and get your broken leg fixed and then

00:40:29.480 not pay for it, declare bankruptcy.

00:40:33.080 I mean, like the Medicare for all argument of like, we're spending so much more than Germany

00:40:38.360 on healthcare and yet we get less.

00:40:40.800 This is so unfair.

00:40:42.100 A family might go bankrupt if their grandpa gets cancer.

00:40:45.100 None of those arguments work on these new population.

00:40:50.100 So in a way, once again, just to hammer it home here, once again, conservatives are wrong.

00:40:56.580 And all of these kind of alt-right people who talk about the demographics, they want to bring

00:41:00.920 in socialism.

00:41:01.960 Oh, it's alt-right people or Laura Ingraham or Tucker Carlson.

00:41:04.800 They're just simply wrong.

00:41:06.280 The elites are bringing in immigrants in order to maintain neoliberalism. 0.99

00:41:10.960 So it's actually a question about that.

00:41:12.620 This gets into what Ed was saying as well, because if you talk to white Americans that 0.63

00:41:18.520 are against universal healthcare, I mean, almost every time I've talked to one of them, the

00:41:22.260 reason is pretty much always they don't want to be subsidizing non-white healthcare. 0.99

00:41:26.440 They don't, they see it as a redistribution of wealth.

00:41:28.960 Now, even if that's not the case, it just gets at something, which is that you only tend

00:41:32.380 to see the growth of ideologies like libertarianism when a society starts to move towards multiculturalism.

00:41:38.740 And even in Europe, you know, you see, even in the Scandinavian countries, a move away from

00:41:45.320 social democratic models and toward more sort of American capitalist models.

00:41:49.700 And it does tend to go hand in hand with multiculturalism, because obviously you're going to have much

00:41:54.760 more of a problem subsidizing healthcare for people from another country than people that 0.98

00:41:59.820 look like yourself.

00:42:01.280 So, yeah, I mean, I would hope the right would be past this by now, that like, it's like this

00:42:06.060 Trotskyist elite that want to bring in non-whites to vote for communism or something. 0.68

00:42:09.920 I think what they want, what they want is the world of New York.

00:42:12.460 It's like, if you're, if you're a Jewish billionaire, New York is a very good place to live, you 0.54

00:42:16.860 know?

00:42:17.740 Yeah.

00:42:17.980 As Putnam, as Robert Putnam found in his paper, his notorious paper on this matter, public

00:42:24.020 goods collapse once you have multiracialism, multietnism, whatever. 0.79

00:42:28.120 Public goods fall apart.

00:42:29.600 They're gone.

00:42:30.040 They go.

00:42:30.380 One of the first things to go, because people want to, people, as far as unconsciously,

00:42:35.100 people want to act in their genetic interests.

00:42:37.480 Their genetic interests are to help a community of an extended genetic family, i.e. their ethnic

00:42:42.420 group, whatever, people like them.

00:42:44.500 Once the system of multiculturalism comes in, it undermines trust, even among the natives, 1.00

00:42:50.660 even among the natives.

00:42:51.720 Trust is undermined, because some natives are suspicious.

00:42:54.080 You're suspicious of your fellow natives, because they could all now be potential collaborators 1.00

00:42:57.540 against you.

00:42:58.200 They could all now be potential traitors, potential individualists, rather than group

00:43:02.580 operating people.

00:43:04.900 And of course, you oppose investing energy and resources in the foreigners, because

00:43:09.540 they're different from you and whatever.

00:43:10.800 And so the result is always the same, which is the collapse of public goods.

00:43:14.960 And the health service is an example of that.

00:43:16.800 And that's why these societies with the so-called Nordic model, that's what we talk about in

00:43:20.600 Europe, the Nordic model, which is the most social democrat kind of society you could

00:43:24.880 possibly have.

00:43:25.540 And it's under tremendous pressure now, because of, in Sweden, whatever, because of the multiracial

00:43:31.940 nature of these kinds of societies.

00:43:34.700 And Britain as well, the National Health Service, it's this unquestioned thing.

00:43:37.980 It's this sacred cow in the UK.

00:43:40.080 No one may question.

00:43:41.240 It has to be free to see a doctor.

00:43:42.880 It has to be completely free.

00:43:44.480 Even if you book a doctor's appointment and you don't turn up, and that's waste, 10 minutes

00:43:49.920 of that busy doctor's time.

00:43:51.240 We're not fined for that.

00:43:54.160 There's nothing, and you can't question it.

00:43:56.640 But, I mean, yeah, that's why they want to express, these Americans that are opposed

00:44:01.380 to universal health care, whatever you call it, they want to express their ethnic interests.

00:44:07.120 And as far as they can see, their ethnic interests are not, but they can't say it out loud.

00:44:10.640 They can't even think it.

00:44:12.420 They maybe don't even articulate it, but they know on some level that they don't want to

00:44:16.600 do this thing, because this thing involves subsidizing other races.

00:44:19.900 Of course, the NHS is a good example, you know, because it came out of that post-World

00:44:24.440 War II feeling of, you know, the nation coming together and that national spirit or whatever.

00:44:30.300 But, sorry, what was the point I was going to make there?

00:44:35.340 I'm going blank.

00:44:35.960 Yeah, no, I mean, I can't remember who said this, but someone said the welfare state as

00:44:41.920 we know it actually did originate in Britain, and many of, one person in particular, I can't

00:44:47.420 remember who it was, noted that it almost came out of that feeling of camaraderie.

00:44:52.440 Tony Benn.

00:44:53.160 Tony Benn of even the bombings of London, of saying, oh, we're going to all do this together.

00:44:59.220 We're going to go down into the metro and, you know, live out the night.

00:45:03.180 But we're one community working together in socialism.

00:45:07.120 I mean, Tony Jutt, a very interesting Jewish historian, said similar things about the triumph

00:45:13.280 of both the welfare state and industrial capitalism export economy in, say, Germany is a product

00:45:21.060 of fascism.

00:45:22.680 This idea that we are going to have a welfare state, the union is going to work with management

00:45:29.380 and capital.

00:45:30.240 We're going to all be on the same team, and we're going to produce Mercedes Benzes and,

00:45:34.560 you know, high, you know, high level medical equipment and, you know, so on, was ultimately

00:45:41.300 a fascist legacy that is unspoken.

00:45:45.140 But it is about that collective.

00:45:46.800 If you look at another time, if you look at another time, there was a high level of immigration

00:45:50.560 to, you know, I say it's like between 1890 and 1920, the time of the robber barons.

00:45:55.880 And, you know, at that time, union power and the power of the labor and class greatly weakened

00:46:00.760 as well because of the immigration.

00:46:02.380 So these two things always do go hand in hand.

00:46:05.320 And, you know, the elite is definitely aware of the benefits that come from it.

00:46:08.920 Another thing as well, I think you notice is that first generation immigrants into Europe

00:46:15.340 or into white countries tend to be much more enamored with consumerism.

00:46:18.880 They tend to make much better consumers.

00:46:22.140 You know, I think young white people now are kind of jailed by that and they're looking

00:46:28.020 for something else.

00:46:28.820 You know, they're looking to find fulfillment in something more existential or in experiences

00:46:33.300 or something.

00:46:34.340 But you see with the, you know, first generation immigrants from non-white countries, you know, 1.00

00:46:40.940 you will see them spending their money on sort of the cheap consumer goods that maybe

00:46:44.420 young white people kind of think it is tacky to waste money on or whatever.

00:46:48.000 Yeah.

00:46:49.340 They're more practical.

00:46:50.540 Yeah, luxury.

00:46:51.480 They're more practical.

00:46:52.900 Their attitude is that they come there normally, they're from, let's say, Britain, the Hindus.

00:46:57.720 They're from India.

00:46:58.560 They're not particularly wealthy.

00:47:00.100 They open up corner shops and things like this.

00:47:02.180 And the pressure on the children is to somehow be middle class.

00:47:07.040 And, OK, you can be middle class by being a brilliant and successful artist or whatever.

00:47:11.760 But if you're going to be practical about it, the better way, the more secure way of negotiating

00:47:16.100 your way into the British middle class is to become a doctor or to become a lawyer.

00:47:20.760 And that is what a lot of these Indians, particularly doctors, that's what a lot of these Indians,

00:47:24.760 Hindus have gone and done. 1.00

00:47:26.100 There's so many of them have become doctors.

00:47:28.000 I think that's part of it.

00:47:28.860 Another part of it may be psychological differences.

00:47:31.860 We know that Indian immigrants, it's not necessarily true of other immigrants, but Indian immigrants,

00:47:36.740 subcontinent immigrants are higher in conscientiousness, the personality trait, impulse control,

00:47:41.560 than our white people.

00:47:43.460 And this would make them better at science, basically, with the personality trait.

00:47:46.500 They've got the same IQ, about 100 of these Hindus, and they have higher conscientiousness.

00:47:50.440 Well, isn't that the stereotype in the US?

00:47:53.420 Like, you know, Apu, like the guy that works, like, all week, all day in this convenience store.

00:47:58.100 And, like, you know, he'll outdo the native population, but it's purely just by, you know, 0.97

00:48:02.600 constant work and frugality.

00:48:04.380 Yes, and this is the type that Bloomberg also praised in another notorious audio, which came

00:48:12.620 out, which basically said, if you want to make it, don't take lunch breaks, don't take

00:48:18.380 bathroom breaks, work seven days.

00:48:21.300 I mean, he was literally demanding the impossible or demanding even slavery.

00:48:27.940 But, you know, and obviously there's some kernel of wisdom there. 0.87

00:48:31.560 But, you know, coming out of his mouth, it is pretty shocking and kind of disgusting, 0.97

00:48:39.780 to be honest.

00:48:40.760 I think most people want to work and then spend a lot of time with your kids or, like,

00:48:46.080 go to the beach or something or read a book.

00:48:49.360 I don't know.

00:48:49.800 They don't want to be working from 7 a.m. until 10.

00:48:54.480 There's another interview with Bloomberg.

00:48:55.940 I'm surprised people haven't picked up on more from 2006, where he was on a radio show

00:48:59.900 and he said that stopping immigration would be a disaster because there'd be no one to

00:49:03.700 look after the golf courses, which kind of shows his mindset.

00:49:09.360 He's so much like Trump.

00:49:12.360 He's like a photographic negative of Trump.

00:49:15.020 They're both New York billionaires. 1.00

00:49:17.140 They're both racist. 0.99

00:49:18.200 I mean, sorry. 0.88

00:49:19.000 And they both say – they say what – they say loudly what you should whisper softly.

00:49:26.680 And they just say it.

00:49:28.460 But Bloomberg gets away with it.

00:49:30.340 Go ahead.

00:49:30.640 There's one key difference between – well, there's many of them.

00:49:33.800 But one key difference between Trump – Trump is not a self-made man.

00:49:37.380 Trump has a very, very wealthy background.

00:49:40.060 And, okay, with that good start, he's done very, very well, for sure.

00:49:43.980 He's a much more successful businessman, I suppose, than his father, but he is not self-made.

00:49:48.640 Bloomberg, I get the impression, is just from a sort of lower middle class.

00:49:51.600 His father's a bookkeeper or something.

00:49:53.600 So he's self-made.

00:49:54.920 So when he talks about – okay, he's fabulously rich and probably out of touch with most people.

00:49:59.140 But when he talks about the need to work hard and whatever, he really has had to do that.

00:50:04.120 Fred Trump is a better businessman than Donald Trump.

00:50:07.200 No question.

00:50:07.860 Donald Trump is a better celebrity than his father could ever dream of being.

00:50:11.400 His father was a brilliant businessman but non-charismatic and outlandish.

00:50:20.140 Trump kind of took that amazing background that he had and turned it into celebrity.

00:50:26.240 But Trump is Trump because he's a celebrity.

00:50:28.220 I mean, his – most of his post-1980s – like, when he was my age, he was kind of at his peak of, you know, wheeling and dealing,

00:50:35.280 trying to start an NFL franchise and building the tallest building in the world in New York City.

00:50:40.080 All these kind of dreams he had.

00:50:42.020 After that, I mean, most of what he's done has been just kind of grifting off his celebrity and disasters, to be honest.

00:50:50.960 Or selling his name for other people to build a high-rise.

00:50:54.980 Okay.

00:50:55.220 Well, I think that if they were to be up against each other and it was portrayed as two billionaires – we're two billionaires.

00:51:01.260 I think Bloomberg should stress the fact that he is from a not-particularly-wealthy area of Boston.

00:51:07.940 His father was a bookkeeper for a dairy company.

00:51:10.540 Sure.

00:51:10.760 But they're both making – yeah, but, you know, they're both making the same pitch, which is that I cannot be bought because I'm a billionaire.

00:51:19.680 And I am going to – the system – Trump's pitch explicitly in the RNC was the system is rigged, and I know how it's rigged, and I'm going to rig it on your behalf.

00:51:32.900 That is a direct paraphrase, not even just like an implicit message.

00:51:36.660 I'm going to do this for you, basically, religious white people who vote Republican.

00:51:41.840 That was his message.

00:51:43.780 Bloomberg's message is, I can't be bought.

00:51:46.060 I don't even want campaign donations because I think he has 50 to 60 billion in the bank or something.

00:51:52.060 I mean, not bad.

00:51:54.580 But I can't be bought.

00:51:55.660 But instead, what his message is, is that I am going to manage the overall chaos and decline of the United States.

00:52:05.960 And it's going to be kind of better for everyone.

00:52:08.320 I'm willing to crack down on crime.

00:52:10.660 I'm not one of these Black Lives Matter, you know, YouTube progressives or Bernie Sanders types.

00:52:16.920 I'm going to maintain this order, and I will explicitly, you know, make sure that this never becomes a welfare state that can help out blue-collar white people. 0.62

00:52:29.840 It's also kind of part of his message, to be honest. 0.99

00:52:33.380 It's just we live in a fucking nightmare world, basically. 0.99

00:52:39.400 I could see him being kind of a Democrat's version of Trump. 0.98

00:52:41.980 Like, I could see him winning, not based on any policy, but just because such a huge proportion of Democratic voters will just be looking at this as just needing to find someone to beat Trump, like anyone.

00:52:52.240 And I think he'd be able to present himself as that very well.

00:52:54.700 And if Bernie Sanders keeps kind of surging ahead and it becomes apparent that it's either going to be Bernie or Bloomberg, you know, the dissentrist Democrats are going to jump on Bloomberg.

00:53:03.900 And it seems like he's—

00:53:04.960 Yeah, they are.

00:53:05.320 I mean, he's taken away Biden's voters in droves.

00:53:08.080 And, you know, if Biden keeps doing as badly as it is, it's going to become apparent very soon that he's a dud.

00:53:12.880 And where are those supporters going to go except Bloomberg? 1.00

00:53:16.140 Because Biden's like Trump in the sense that he talks and talks and makes gaffe after gaffe and is just a fool. 0.87

00:53:23.300 Bloomberg, you know, again, when he says things that are controversial, they're still actually, like, true and backed up by imperial—empirical data. 0.99

00:53:33.040 And so, and he is a dull but clearly highly intelligent person, whereas Biden, you know, the guy, we're just waiting for him to make a fool of himself. 0.99

00:53:45.380 And he's also just a liar. 1.00

00:53:47.960 He's a plagiarist and liar. 1.00

00:53:50.200 I mean, there's no other way to put it. 0.99

00:53:52.340 Bloomberg, you'd never make those criticisms of him. 0.55

00:53:55.260 So, yeah, I mean, look, I think Bernie is obviously the frontrunner, but if I had to predict who's going to come out of this, I can't help but say I predict it's going to be a Bloomberg-Trump battle of the vulgar, racist New York billionaire versus the subtle racist New York billionaire.

00:54:18.280 Great, really great stuff we've got going. 0.90

00:54:20.840 You know, this is kind of the last stage of managing clown world.

00:54:26.680 Yes, but did you successfully prognosticate that Trump would be the candidate for the Republicans?

00:54:34.020 Yeah, and I predicted he would win in 2016 on Twitter.

00:54:38.480 And I was on the Trump train in the summer of 2015 and saying this guy's going to do it and BTF-Oing all these never-Trump-lust.

00:54:47.400 You hailed him, as I recall.

00:54:49.780 So to speak, yes.

00:54:52.380 I was pretty excited.

00:54:56.220 But I'm willing to, unlike some, I'm willing to look at the world and analyze it and perhaps even change my opinion and not just spout off the same talking points that I might have said in 2015.

00:55:16.420 But yeah, I was anti-Republicans up until Trump.

00:55:23.140 And then I liked Trump precisely because he was the chaos candidate, in the words of Jeb Bush.

00:55:27.880 It was like, this guy's going to change everything.

00:55:29.520 We don't even know what's going to happen.

00:55:30.880 But he's going to make everything chaotic and there's going to be open up new space for us and so on.

00:55:36.660 And that was true to a certain extent.

00:55:39.340 But yeah, I mean, I think what has happened with Trump is not so much that he has captured the Republican Party.

00:55:45.340 It's that the Republican Party has captured him.

00:55:47.940 They've used a lot of his rhetoric, the other N-word, nationalism, populism, which they would kind of use before, but now they're full on.

00:55:57.840 And he has basically pursued the Paul Ryan agenda while tweeting like a Twitter, you know, like an alt-right edgelord.

00:56:08.400 And it's kind of the worst of all possible scenarios.

00:56:11.860 And there's no reason to believe that he would change in a second term.

00:56:15.220 And in fact, I think there might be dangers in a second term of going to war with Iran and other things like that.

00:56:20.340 There's dangers of Bloomberg going to war with Iran, you know, but and who knows?

00:56:26.980 And then all of these things that we've talked about, which are, you know, flawed and, you know, but but but effective social policies.

00:56:36.820 Bloomberg has apologized for and, you know, like identity politics and virtue signaling triumph over social science because we aren't in academia.

00:56:48.680 We're in the real world where it's about confrontation and victory and identity politics trumps social science.

00:56:55.360 So I don't know how he could actually well, I might be wrong, but I don't know how Bloomberg could actually implement, you know, totalitarian policing on a nationwide scale in the United States.

00:57:08.340 I think we just get more neoliberalism, more immigration and and not even policing of, you know, murder and robbery.

00:57:19.140 So, yeah, it's just utterly awful.

00:57:23.420 Bloomberg versus Trump would really be the worst of all possible worlds, because I mean, I can't even think how Bloomberg would be any different policy wise, really.

00:57:31.960 No, not that different, actually.

00:57:34.860 He'd do he do tax cuts.

00:57:37.160 He would do, you know, pro-Israel stuff.

00:57:39.880 He would likely have the same foreign policy, maybe more, maybe worse, maybe better.

00:57:46.380 You can kind of make arguments on both sides on that because he is more subtle and, you know, more more likely to go to the, you know, talk to be diplomatic and go to the UN and work with other.

00:57:55.320 I mean, I think that's probably true.

00:57:56.500 But, yeah, it's just an absolute disaster.

00:58:00.460 And we should never underestimate the elite in the sense of their ability to capture energies and use them for their own ends and their ability to maintain themselves.

00:58:12.220 I mean, they are kind of crazy at some level, but they're they're they're where they are for a reason.

00:58:17.840 I mean, but gig, it's just as bad policy wise, but at least it'd be some good memes for a few years, you know.

00:58:26.500 I mean, it's just as bad policy wise, you know.

00:58:56.500 Yeah.

00:59:17.560 Yeah.

00:59:18.160 And Chastain might go full Elton John on us and, you know, we would have State of the Union addresses where he would perform various musical theater numbers in full drag.

00:59:30.700 And that would be much more entertaining than Trump talking about socialism, the Holocaust.

00:59:37.060 Well, you know, a lot of a lot of the decline in empires had the growth of like the palace eunuchs.

00:59:42.480 So, but it kind of fits in well there.

00:59:45.840 Yes, that is true.

00:59:47.340 That is true.

00:59:48.780 Is Bloomberg, is he, is he on the other bus or is he, what's going on there?

00:59:55.420 Is he married?

00:59:56.620 I've heard this insinuation about Bloomberg.

00:59:59.880 I don't quite know.

01:00:01.140 He almost seems a bit asexual or something.

01:00:04.920 Asexual what? 0.99

01:00:06.440 Sexual dynamo. 0.98

01:00:07.340 He is, okay, there, the other controversy, which we didn't talk about, was that Bloomberg was pretty Trumpian when it came to women working in his organizations.

01:00:18.880 So, I can't remember some of these things, but when women would ask for, you know, pregnancy leave or something, he'd be like, oh, another one.

01:00:29.040 I can't believe we have to hire these women. 1.00

01:00:30.680 And he's been accused of very sexual harassment and things like that. 0.89

01:00:34.020 I don't know if he's also gay.

01:00:35.420 I just, I don't know, but I don't, yeah. 0.80

01:00:40.740 Imagining, you know, it's why I don't like sexual, sexual scandals among politicians or whatever.

01:00:46.420 It's like, you have to imagine Bill O'Reilly, like, sexually harassing.

01:00:50.680 It's just like, I like it when you're like, you know, you imagine like, oh, I wonder who Margot Robbie's sleeping with.

01:00:56.920 Or, you know, you know, that's kind of like, oh, interesting.

01:00:59.800 But when you're like, who's Bloomberg sleeping with?

01:01:03.640 I don't want to know.

01:01:05.320 I promise I will not investigate your sexual life.

01:01:08.400 Yeah, I don't know if you heard the descriptions of Harvey Weinstein's genitals that came out in that recent court case. 0.97

01:01:14.200 Well, apparently he's a eunuch.

01:01:16.740 Yeah, I could have done it out here in the lab. 1.00

01:01:18.860 They talk about him masturbating. 1.00

01:01:20.460 If he was a eunuch, he wouldn't have a sex drive, would he? 1.00

01:01:23.100 I don't. 1.00

01:01:24.620 Apparently he has no testicles and egg-shaped penis. 1.00

01:01:27.520 How could he have a sex drive? 1.00

01:01:28.640 He wouldn't have a sex drive. 1.00

01:01:29.520 And he has a botched penis. 1.00

01:01:31.220 They're like genital scarring from a botched circumcision or some bizarre. 0.99

01:01:35.280 I just love the description. 0.99

01:01:36.740 They're like, no testicles. 0.83

01:01:38.660 I just love the description. 0.82

01:01:39.300 They're like, they had to show the jury the pictures and the court description.

01:01:43.460 It was like, many of the jury winced.

01:01:46.380 Such public shame for Weinstein. 1.00

01:01:49.680 But shouldn't the solution be that he should have to show his penis? 0.99

01:01:52.340 And then we can see whether these people are telling the truth or not. 0.99

01:01:55.060 Wouldn't that be the case?

01:01:55.320 I think that is considered a war crime, and that would be a crime in itself.

01:02:00.880 It fits.

01:02:00.900 You must acquit.

01:02:06.040 All right.

01:02:10.160 That's a good ending.

01:02:11.500 We always end on total juvenile.

01:02:14.200 It's like, is he a pedophile?

01:02:18.360 Real question. 0.78

01:02:20.620 How short is he?

01:02:22.000 It's like Bloomberg, actually.

01:02:22.680 How short is he?

01:02:25.200 Because Trump has come up with the nickname Mini Mike for him now.

01:02:29.160 He's not shockingly short.

01:02:32.400 I think he's like 5'6 or 5'8.

01:02:35.260 So he's just kind of a shortish man.

01:02:38.000 But he's not like a midget or something. 1.00

01:02:39.760 I know.

01:02:41.240 He's not that short.

01:02:42.680 I heard he was 5'4, which is short.

01:02:44.900 That would seem short.

01:02:46.160 I don't think he's that short.

01:02:48.240 I've been in the same room as Mike.

01:02:49.920 Trump's like 6'2 or 3, isn't he?

01:02:51.040 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:51.700 He's more like that.

01:02:52.340 I've been in the same room with Mike Bloomberg.

01:02:54.640 And I was not shocked by his height.

01:02:59.320 You know, in either way.

01:03:01.020 He's, yeah.

01:03:01.620 I was talking about Bloomberg.

01:03:02.400 I thought I was talking about butty, butty, butty.

01:03:05.520 Bloomberg isn't going to waste time.

01:03:06.760 So I'm talking about that.

01:03:07.960 Yeah.

01:03:08.940 Apparently he has to stand on a phone book at the debate, according to Trump.

01:03:14.560 Yeah, this is like locker room banter.

01:03:17.580 I mean, you know, it's amusing.

01:03:18.680 But that's the funny thing, if they run against each other, because there's so few policy differences, it'd be easy to, like, New York loudmouths, like, insulting each other the whole campaign.

01:03:26.900 Yeah, and then Bloomberg does the same thing.

01:03:28.860 He just does it more subtly and more kind of postmodern. 0.99

01:03:32.280 So Bloomberg has created these memes of Trump being fat and golfing, which are pretty effective, because there's just a, you know, you just have a kind of disgust mechanism when you see this asshole golf course. 0.99

01:03:47.040 You know, so, yeah, that's where we are. 1.00

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