RadixJournal - October 19, 2022


Death Con 3


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24 minutes

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2,879

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187

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2

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12

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Kanye West has been accused of anti-Semitism by some critics of his recent comments about being a Jew. What does this say about the current state of race relations in America? And what does it mean for the future of the culture in which we live?

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00:00:00.000 Now then, Dimitri, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of something going
00:00:09.160 wrong with the bomb. Well, now, what happened is one of our base commanders, he had a sort of,
00:00:18.880 well, he went a little funny in the head, you know, just a little funny, and he went and did a silly 0.69
00:00:28.520 thing. Planned Parenthood was made by Margaret Sanger, a known eugenics, with the KKK, to control 1.00
00:00:38.620 the Jew population. When I say Jew, I mean the 12 lost tribes of Judah, the blood of Christ,
00:00:47.340 who, the race, the people known as the race Black. Well, listen, how do you think I feel about it?
00:00:53.860 Can you imagine how I feel about it, Dimitri?
00:01:04.860 We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know where, but I know we'll meet again some sunny day.
00:01:21.120 As far as, you know, what his opinion is, it's kind of less important than what the social or
00:01:34.200 political effect of a Black guy, in his position, making remarks like this. Coming out, for example, 0.81
00:01:43.120 coming out in the defense of whites, making remarks that are, could be interpreted as anti-Semitic,
00:01:50.320 but again, it's more complex than that, because it sounds like he's coming from a kind of
00:01:54.040 theological or religious perspective when he's talking about being a Jew. He is from the inner
00:02:00.960 city, though, in Chicago, presumably, is that correct?
00:02:03.140 Yes. He was born in Atlanta, and he grew up in South Chicago, yes.
00:02:06.560 So he comes from a relatively poor inner city.
00:02:10.080 Well, yes and no. His father, yes and no. His father does seem interesting. His mother was into
00:02:17.820 the arts and was a professor, I believe, at Chicago State University, where he attended for one year
00:02:26.940 before dropping out to become a professional musician. So it's a little more complicated.
00:02:31.720 He's not, and you see this a lot, he's not exactly just straight from the hood, and he doesn't know
00:02:42.580 his father and his mother was on welfare or something. That's wrong about Kanye. I think
00:02:47.500 he thinks more highly of himself as well. He's probably been around people who are political
00:02:56.040 thinkers like his father. He had an estranged relationship with his father. But then in this
00:03:02.700 interview, you see all this outreach to his father and demeaning his mother as surrounded by liberals
00:03:10.260 and kind of brainwashed in this way. So very interesting. But I think it's also safe to say
00:03:18.980 that he wasn't just around people who were selling drugs or working part-time or whatever.
00:03:26.040 I think he was actually around people, and he's imbibed stuff from them that was political
00:03:32.800 and kind of serious and philosophical and so on. And I think that's actually kind of added
00:03:39.360 to his outspokenness and kind of curious personality.
00:03:45.080 And I think there have been other rap stars too who have kind of bumped up against this as
00:03:50.060 well, whether they've had like anti-Semitic lyrics or lyrics that could be interpreted as
00:03:55.820 anti-Semitic or have made statements that could be interpreted as anti-Semitic. I'm not thinking
00:04:01.860 of them offhand, but it's happened in the past. So this is not the sort of first occurrence.
00:04:08.700 But what it does reveal, though, is that it, while, and I mean, the point that's being made is
00:04:16.120 correct. Maybe it's becoming more of a taboo now, ostensibly, with the rise of Fox News and
00:04:27.040 media that has been influenced by the 2006 alt-right. Maybe it is becoming more of a taboo to be anti-white
00:04:38.580 gradually on some level. But it has long been a taboo to be anti-Jewish, of course. But even among
00:04:46.980 blacks, which is interesting, right? So the taboo exists both among whites. Whites are not allowed
00:04:53.540 to be anti-Semitic. Jews are not, or rather, I mean, I guess Jews would be more allowed, but even Jews
00:04:58.840 are not really allowed to be anti-Semitic. But blacks are not allowed to be anti-Semitic, right? 0.92
00:05:04.960 Yeah. So that reveals, though, that there's a kind of hierarchy in this multiculturalism.
00:05:11.880 Yes. 0.99
00:05:12.420 There are some cows that are more sacred than other cows, and blacks are a less sacred cow than Jews, 1.00
00:05:19.360 as it turns out, right? 1.00
00:05:20.980 Yeah. He was never called out for being mentally ill when he upstaged Taylor Swift, or when he
00:05:31.500 called out George W. Bush as a racist on national television at a time of national mourning and
00:05:41.580 unity in a way. He was not declared to be mentally ill. When he brought up this subject, he was declared
00:05:48.480 to be mentally ill pretty overtly. And he's made comments about being manic depressive. I actually
00:05:57.560 don't see that as his main problem, actually. And he said, my manic depression is my superpower.
00:06:03.900 And that might be the case where not only are you depressed sometimes, we also have mania. And you
00:06:10.340 can probably write an entire album in one of those manic episodes. But I actually don't think that's
00:06:18.000 even the best way of describing his personality. And whether that's true or not remains to be seen.
00:06:24.140 And a lot of people self-diagnosed and so on. But I mean, what interests me about all of this is that,
00:06:31.140 you know, it's he did say Death Con 3 or 5 or whatever. Death Con 3. Yes. Whatever that means. I imagine
00:06:41.540 Death Con strikes me as a black metal concert. I think he was mentioning he was trying to allude to Death
00:06:47.080 Con, which is nuclear war. So he was going to go nuclear on the Jews. So, you know, when you read 0.96
00:06:56.000 that first sentence, you know, it's God knows what he's planning, you know, Holocaust revisionism and 0.63
00:07:00.880 quoting Kevin MacDonald and William Pierce or whatever. I mean, that okay that you could take
00:07:08.280 that from the first sentence. But I think the second sentence is interesting. I can't be anti-Semitic.
00:07:13.600 So he can't be anti-Jewish, which is what I think he really means. Because I'm a Jew also. And he said
00:07:18.620 also. So he's actually not claiming, at least ostensibly, that the Jews aren't the Jews. So
00:07:26.000 I have heard that claim made by many people, that Hebrew Israelites that you find in Times Square,
00:07:32.900 they think they are actually the Jews. These Jews who are here now are just usurpers, 1.00
00:07:38.320 they're tricksters. We're the ones who our story is told in the Bible. I've also heard that claim 1.00
00:07:45.360 from so-called Christian nationalists of a certain stripe. I don't think most people who adopt that
00:07:53.020 term claim that now. But there is a certain type of Christian nationalists or Christian identity
00:08:01.140 Christianity where the Anglo-Saxons are in fact the Jews of the Bible. And these Ashkenazi Jews are 1.00
00:08:09.740 actually the Kesar converts. They weren't the original Jews. And again, you engage and there are a bunch of
00:08:17.140 deceptors and tricksters and so on. So it's a kind of, I think it comes from this ambivalence and problem
00:08:27.580 of being a Christian nationalist and an anti-Semite. So you hate the Jews. You think they're behind everything 1.00
00:08:33.680 wrong with society. Hitler was right. But you're also a Christian and thus well over half of the book that you 1.00
00:08:42.400 have, you know, deemed to be the word of God is their story. So how do you reconcile this issue? And it's, well,
00:08:53.280 they're not the real Jews. We are or someone else's or something. It strikes me as, you know, 0.94
00:08:59.860 if you think about it like a personal situation where someone was, had a really bad father and was
00:09:05.040 abused by their father and treated horribly or something, you could imagine them coping with
00:09:10.640 that psychologically by claiming, well, you know, he wasn't my real father. I, you know, he, he, he just
00:09:17.360 met my mother and he's a terrible guy, but my real father is somewhere else because you, you don't
00:09:23.340 want to be kind of tainted by that. It's a, it's a, it's a understandable psychological coping mechanism.
00:09:31.280 And I think Christian identity is a coping mechanism. Um, you know, it, it, I'm sorry, but at the end of 1.00
00:09:39.620 the day, uh, the current people who are, you know, claim to be Jews or live in Israel or have Jewish
00:09:47.680 identity and multiple kinds in the United States, they are the Jew that there is a coherent people. 0.91
00:09:53.600 There is a line stretching, um, from Abraham. Like, I mean, not, you know what I mean? Exactly. But,
00:10:00.960 but from the ancient world to 2022, uh, two, there is a coherent line there and yeah, twist and turns
00:10:10.800 here and there, but it is actually a coherent people and you can't deal with that because you're
00:10:16.860 both an antisemite and a Christian. And so you're going to come up with these fabulous tales to justify 0.95
00:10:24.440 yourself. And so I think he, there might've been something to that. Clearly Kanye has been exposed
00:10:32.300 to some kind of black Hebrew ideology, but he also said also, so I'm kind of taking him at his word
00:10:39.120 here and I'm listening to other things also. And so what happened, you know, honestly, we could,
00:10:45.620 I could easily see the Genesis of, you know, because obviously he's dealt with Jews in the music
00:10:51.620 industry and presumably he has friends, if not many friends that are Jews. Right. Yeah. Um, and so I,
00:10:59.960 you know, I, I, I, you could easily see Kanye high with some Jew, uh, you know, recording an album 1.00
00:11:08.580 and the Jew just saying, yeah, man, we're all Jews or whatever, you know, you're a Jew or whatever,
00:11:13.940 you know what I mean? It's, we're all God or whatever. Right. So that's, we, we can, we can imagine
00:11:19.380 the sort of Genesis of his particular theology, um, where he has friends who are Jews, who he also
00:11:26.460 thinks are legitimately Jews too, or right. Well, I don't think that's it though. So you think he's
00:11:33.460 referencing a particular? Yes. I think he has thought through this now. Do I think Kanye is highly
00:11:40.280 intelligent? No. Do I think that he has a weird personality issue? I don't, I don't want to diagnose
00:11:49.340 him at this point. Yes, I do. Uh, but I also think that despite it all, he is trying to say
00:11:59.900 something like having an album called Christ is King is an attempt on his part, a sincere attempt
00:12:06.360 to be a real Christian and to say something powerful in a Christian tradition. I think it was
00:12:14.000 a genuine attempt. It wasn't just some gospel music. You can find gospel music and all sorts
00:12:19.120 of pop songs. I don't think it means much of anything. It was for Kanye. It means actually
00:12:24.080 quite a bit. And I think the, also in that tweet, even though the tweet was grammatically,
00:12:30.980 uh, lacking, I think it actually was meaningful. Um, so in a, so after this controversy launched,
00:12:39.400 so he was banned from Twitter, I don't think that we should spend too much time speculating
00:12:45.280 the theology of Kanye West. I mean, Oh yes, we should. Well, but the, because it's real,
00:12:50.960 you can, you can take it. I don't know if it could ever be clearly deciphered, even if
00:12:54.800 it is coherent, right? Right. Okay. Has he left enough clues? And I haven't studied him
00:12:59.640 closely enough. Yes, he has. Sorry. Well, so is, is, is, is your idea that he identifies
00:13:05.080 as a Jew because of a conversion into Christianity. So, uh, through a Christianization, he becomes
00:13:12.300 a Jew or we become Jews through Christianity, which is not exactly. Although I think that's
00:13:18.160 he does part of it. Christian songs, right? Yes. Um, so after this controversy launched,
00:13:26.880 someone at Fox news, apparently leaked outtakes to vice motherboard, which is, I actually don't
00:13:39.080 know what that is. I, uh, some kind of vice news thing. And they showed what had been taken
00:13:48.180 out of this highly expansive and indulgent interview by Tucker Carlson. One of the funnier things that
00:13:54.900 was taken out was that Kanye said that he was, uh, vaccinated. And yeah, I don't, I mean,
00:14:01.740 you set that question up. You have more information about the, uh, about the, uh, about what happened
00:14:09.300 in the hospitals. So in all honesty, I don't, I don't have the most, the most facts that there's
00:14:14.860 many facts. No, I mean, in your life, like the COVID vaccine, the being stuck inside, like,
00:14:20.820 what did you think of all that? I was, I was vaccinated. And you could kind of tell that
00:14:24.680 Tucker wanted to do one of these talking points of, you know, Oh, the, the, the democratic fascists
00:14:33.040 are on to all of us and whatever, but Kanye actually is vaccinated. That was cut, which
00:14:38.220 is interesting, but there was actually some more interesting things that were cut. Um, so
00:14:45.000 first off, he claims that the black, uh, as opposed to Jews, Jews are a people. They're not just a race.
00:14:53.460 So he's kind of going against his father's apparent black nationalism and saying that, no, we're,
00:15:00.040 we need to be thinking of, we need to be thinking of ourselves as a people. And we are the blood of
00:15:04.720 Christ because we are Jews. We are a tribe of Israel. So he's not exactly replacing the tribe of Judah or
00:15:13.920 Jews as they are now, but he's saying that blacks are part of it.
00:15:18.700 It was made by Margaret Sanger, a known eugenics with the KKK to control the Jew population. When 0.93
00:15:30.280 I say Jew, I mean the 12 lost tribes of Judah, the blood of Christ, who the race, the people known as
00:15:39.660 the race black really are, this is who our people are, the blood of Christ. This as a Christian is my belief.
00:15:47.560 And he makes another interesting claim where he seems to pick up on something that likely Candace Owens
00:15:54.700 told him, which is that there are more black babies aborted in New York city than are born. And if we go back to
00:16:03.160 Margaret Sanger, you see the racism at the heart of Planned Parenthood and the, uh, contraception
00:16:10.340 campaign, which was, uh, Margaret Sanger is the founder of Planned Parenthood. She was promoting
00:16:15.100 contraception for what it's worth and not abortion, but put that aside. And that it, there was a racial
00:16:21.040 component to it, a eugenics component to it, to get rid of blacks. Now that actually is true in the sense 1.00
00:16:28.020 that Margaret Sanger was sending, you know, love letters to Madison Grant and so on. I mean, she
00:16:34.260 conceived of herself as a eugenicist as many, many progressives did. Eugenics was a, and immigration
00:16:42.480 reform was a progressive cause. And we haven't had it since the, the, the progressives of the 20th
00:16:49.100 century, first half of the 20th century I'm talking about have left the scene. But anyway, um, so he's
00:16:54.980 basically imputing racism into progressivism, which does have a strong, there's a good reason to do
00:17:03.100 that in fact. Uh, but he also says that Planned Parenthood is thus antisemitic, which is odd because
00:17:11.560 Margaret Sanger's Jewish, but Planned Parenthood is antisemitic because they are attacking the blood 1.00
00:17:16.800 of Christ, which includes blacks. So from what I can take it, he is saying that blacks are 0.99
00:17:24.980 a tribe. They're maybe a lost tribe of Israel, but they are a tribe of Israel. They are part of the
00:17:32.480 story. They were there in the old Testament. And as Christians, they are continuing the story.
00:17:39.400 So I do think it, I mean, it's not that it's kind of smart and it's weird, but I do actually think it's
00:17:47.100 coherent and he is saying something. And in that way, I think he's actually getting at that
00:17:52.800 weird ambivalence where he's not sure if he wants to hate the Jews or be the Jews. And even though he
00:18:00.860 might be, you know, righteously angry at, you know, I don't know, Jewish globalists or Jews on 0.99
00:18:09.220 wall street or Jews controlling the, um, the music industry and not promoting Christian messages and 0.98
00:18:15.260 all of this kind of stuff, uh, he still sees himself as a part of that story. So it's a profoundly
00:18:21.520 ambivalent outrage, but I think this is actually typical and tells us a lot about Christianity.
00:18:31.120 Yeah. It's the, it's the problem of, you know, when Nietzsche, uh, mocks or describes as ridiculous,
00:18:37.720 the, uh, Jewish or rather the Christian anti-Semite it's, it's a kind of incoherent position,
00:18:44.100 right. Um, but, uh, and it, it, uh, and it's just sort of endless kind of, uh, toxic feedback loop,
00:18:54.160 right. Um, where you, you're kind of, um, you're fixed to these people, you're fixed to the Jews 1.00
00:19:00.360 because your God, your savior is Jewish. Um, and so maybe, and so he, likely he sees himself in the
00:19:08.480 role of Jesus, for example, trying to, um, uh, you know, uh, teach or to show Jews their, 0.69
00:19:17.860 their moral failings or that sort of thing. Right. Right. He's attacking the Pharisees
00:19:22.180 productive activity, but yeah. Um, he's not attacking Jews. He's attacking the Pharisees.
00:19:27.620 That's what he's doing. It's a, there's a long tradition of this. Sure.
00:19:30.400 That's what he's doing.
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