Death Con 3
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Summary
Kanye West has been accused of anti-Semitism by some critics of his recent comments about being a Jew. What does this say about the current state of race relations in America? And what does it mean for the future of the culture in which we live?
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Now then, Dimitri, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of something going
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wrong with the bomb. Well, now, what happened is one of our base commanders, he had a sort of,
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well, he went a little funny in the head, you know, just a little funny, and he went and did a silly
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thing. Planned Parenthood was made by Margaret Sanger, a known eugenics, with the KKK, to control
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the Jew population. When I say Jew, I mean the 12 lost tribes of Judah, the blood of Christ,
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who, the race, the people known as the race Black. Well, listen, how do you think I feel about it?
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We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know where, but I know we'll meet again some sunny day.
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As far as, you know, what his opinion is, it's kind of less important than what the social or
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political effect of a Black guy, in his position, making remarks like this. Coming out, for example,
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coming out in the defense of whites, making remarks that are, could be interpreted as anti-Semitic,
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but again, it's more complex than that, because it sounds like he's coming from a kind of
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theological or religious perspective when he's talking about being a Jew. He is from the inner
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city, though, in Chicago, presumably, is that correct?
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Yes. He was born in Atlanta, and he grew up in South Chicago, yes.
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Well, yes and no. His father, yes and no. His father does seem interesting. His mother was into
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the arts and was a professor, I believe, at Chicago State University, where he attended for one year
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before dropping out to become a professional musician. So it's a little more complicated.
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He's not, and you see this a lot, he's not exactly just straight from the hood, and he doesn't know
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his father and his mother was on welfare or something. That's wrong about Kanye. I think
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he thinks more highly of himself as well. He's probably been around people who are political
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thinkers like his father. He had an estranged relationship with his father. But then in this
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interview, you see all this outreach to his father and demeaning his mother as surrounded by liberals
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and kind of brainwashed in this way. So very interesting. But I think it's also safe to say
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that he wasn't just around people who were selling drugs or working part-time or whatever.
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I think he was actually around people, and he's imbibed stuff from them that was political
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and kind of serious and philosophical and so on. And I think that's actually kind of added
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to his outspokenness and kind of curious personality.
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And I think there have been other rap stars too who have kind of bumped up against this as
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well, whether they've had like anti-Semitic lyrics or lyrics that could be interpreted as
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anti-Semitic or have made statements that could be interpreted as anti-Semitic. I'm not thinking
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of them offhand, but it's happened in the past. So this is not the sort of first occurrence.
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But what it does reveal, though, is that it, while, and I mean, the point that's being made is
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correct. Maybe it's becoming more of a taboo now, ostensibly, with the rise of Fox News and
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media that has been influenced by the 2006 alt-right. Maybe it is becoming more of a taboo to be anti-white
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gradually on some level. But it has long been a taboo to be anti-Jewish, of course. But even among
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blacks, which is interesting, right? So the taboo exists both among whites. Whites are not allowed
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to be anti-Semitic. Jews are not, or rather, I mean, I guess Jews would be more allowed, but even Jews
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are not really allowed to be anti-Semitic. But blacks are not allowed to be anti-Semitic, right?
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Yeah. So that reveals, though, that there's a kind of hierarchy in this multiculturalism.
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There are some cows that are more sacred than other cows, and blacks are a less sacred cow than Jews,
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Yeah. He was never called out for being mentally ill when he upstaged Taylor Swift, or when he
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called out George W. Bush as a racist on national television at a time of national mourning and
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unity in a way. He was not declared to be mentally ill. When he brought up this subject, he was declared
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to be mentally ill pretty overtly. And he's made comments about being manic depressive. I actually
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don't see that as his main problem, actually. And he said, my manic depression is my superpower.
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And that might be the case where not only are you depressed sometimes, we also have mania. And you
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can probably write an entire album in one of those manic episodes. But I actually don't think that's
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even the best way of describing his personality. And whether that's true or not remains to be seen.
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And a lot of people self-diagnosed and so on. But I mean, what interests me about all of this is that,
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you know, it's he did say Death Con 3 or 5 or whatever. Death Con 3. Yes. Whatever that means. I imagine
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Death Con strikes me as a black metal concert. I think he was mentioning he was trying to allude to Death
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Con, which is nuclear war. So he was going to go nuclear on the Jews. So, you know, when you read
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that first sentence, you know, it's God knows what he's planning, you know, Holocaust revisionism and
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quoting Kevin MacDonald and William Pierce or whatever. I mean, that okay that you could take
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that from the first sentence. But I think the second sentence is interesting. I can't be anti-Semitic.
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So he can't be anti-Jewish, which is what I think he really means. Because I'm a Jew also. And he said
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also. So he's actually not claiming, at least ostensibly, that the Jews aren't the Jews. So
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I have heard that claim made by many people, that Hebrew Israelites that you find in Times Square,
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they think they are actually the Jews. These Jews who are here now are just usurpers,
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they're tricksters. We're the ones who our story is told in the Bible. I've also heard that claim
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from so-called Christian nationalists of a certain stripe. I don't think most people who adopt that
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term claim that now. But there is a certain type of Christian nationalists or Christian identity
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Christianity where the Anglo-Saxons are in fact the Jews of the Bible. And these Ashkenazi Jews are
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actually the Kesar converts. They weren't the original Jews. And again, you engage and there are a bunch of
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deceptors and tricksters and so on. So it's a kind of, I think it comes from this ambivalence and problem
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of being a Christian nationalist and an anti-Semite. So you hate the Jews. You think they're behind everything
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wrong with society. Hitler was right. But you're also a Christian and thus well over half of the book that you
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have, you know, deemed to be the word of God is their story. So how do you reconcile this issue? And it's, well,
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they're not the real Jews. We are or someone else's or something. It strikes me as, you know,
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if you think about it like a personal situation where someone was, had a really bad father and was
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abused by their father and treated horribly or something, you could imagine them coping with
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that psychologically by claiming, well, you know, he wasn't my real father. I, you know, he, he, he just
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met my mother and he's a terrible guy, but my real father is somewhere else because you, you don't
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want to be kind of tainted by that. It's a, it's a, it's a understandable psychological coping mechanism.
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And I think Christian identity is a coping mechanism. Um, you know, it, it, I'm sorry, but at the end of
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the day, uh, the current people who are, you know, claim to be Jews or live in Israel or have Jewish
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identity and multiple kinds in the United States, they are the Jew that there is a coherent people.
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There is a line stretching, um, from Abraham. Like, I mean, not, you know what I mean? Exactly. But,
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but from the ancient world to 2022, uh, two, there is a coherent line there and yeah, twist and turns
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here and there, but it is actually a coherent people and you can't deal with that because you're
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both an antisemite and a Christian. And so you're going to come up with these fabulous tales to justify
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yourself. And so I think he, there might've been something to that. Clearly Kanye has been exposed
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to some kind of black Hebrew ideology, but he also said also, so I'm kind of taking him at his word
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here and I'm listening to other things also. And so what happened, you know, honestly, we could,
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I could easily see the Genesis of, you know, because obviously he's dealt with Jews in the music
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industry and presumably he has friends, if not many friends that are Jews. Right. Yeah. Um, and so I,
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you know, I, I, I, you could easily see Kanye high with some Jew, uh, you know, recording an album
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and the Jew just saying, yeah, man, we're all Jews or whatever, you know, you're a Jew or whatever,
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you know what I mean? It's, we're all God or whatever. Right. So that's, we, we can, we can imagine
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the sort of Genesis of his particular theology, um, where he has friends who are Jews, who he also
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thinks are legitimately Jews too, or right. Well, I don't think that's it though. So you think he's
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referencing a particular? Yes. I think he has thought through this now. Do I think Kanye is highly
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intelligent? No. Do I think that he has a weird personality issue? I don't, I don't want to diagnose
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him at this point. Yes, I do. Uh, but I also think that despite it all, he is trying to say
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something like having an album called Christ is King is an attempt on his part, a sincere attempt
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to be a real Christian and to say something powerful in a Christian tradition. I think it was
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a genuine attempt. It wasn't just some gospel music. You can find gospel music and all sorts
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of pop songs. I don't think it means much of anything. It was for Kanye. It means actually
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quite a bit. And I think the, also in that tweet, even though the tweet was grammatically,
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uh, lacking, I think it actually was meaningful. Um, so in a, so after this controversy launched,
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so he was banned from Twitter, I don't think that we should spend too much time speculating
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the theology of Kanye West. I mean, Oh yes, we should. Well, but the, because it's real,
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you can, you can take it. I don't know if it could ever be clearly deciphered, even if
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it is coherent, right? Right. Okay. Has he left enough clues? And I haven't studied him
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closely enough. Yes, he has. Sorry. Well, so is, is, is, is your idea that he identifies
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as a Jew because of a conversion into Christianity. So, uh, through a Christianization, he becomes
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a Jew or we become Jews through Christianity, which is not exactly. Although I think that's
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he does part of it. Christian songs, right? Yes. Um, so after this controversy launched,
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someone at Fox news, apparently leaked outtakes to vice motherboard, which is, I actually don't
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know what that is. I, uh, some kind of vice news thing. And they showed what had been taken
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out of this highly expansive and indulgent interview by Tucker Carlson. One of the funnier things that
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was taken out was that Kanye said that he was, uh, vaccinated. And yeah, I don't, I mean,
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you set that question up. You have more information about the, uh, about the, uh, about what happened
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in the hospitals. So in all honesty, I don't, I don't have the most, the most facts that there's
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many facts. No, I mean, in your life, like the COVID vaccine, the being stuck inside, like,
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what did you think of all that? I was, I was vaccinated. And you could kind of tell that
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Tucker wanted to do one of these talking points of, you know, Oh, the, the, the democratic fascists
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are on to all of us and whatever, but Kanye actually is vaccinated. That was cut, which
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is interesting, but there was actually some more interesting things that were cut. Um, so
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first off, he claims that the black, uh, as opposed to Jews, Jews are a people. They're not just a race.
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So he's kind of going against his father's apparent black nationalism and saying that, no, we're,
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we need to be thinking of, we need to be thinking of ourselves as a people. And we are the blood of
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Christ because we are Jews. We are a tribe of Israel. So he's not exactly replacing the tribe of Judah or
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Jews as they are now, but he's saying that blacks are part of it.
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It was made by Margaret Sanger, a known eugenics with the KKK to control the Jew population. When
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I say Jew, I mean the 12 lost tribes of Judah, the blood of Christ, who the race, the people known as
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the race black really are, this is who our people are, the blood of Christ. This as a Christian is my belief.
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And he makes another interesting claim where he seems to pick up on something that likely Candace Owens
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told him, which is that there are more black babies aborted in New York city than are born. And if we go back to
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Margaret Sanger, you see the racism at the heart of Planned Parenthood and the, uh, contraception
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campaign, which was, uh, Margaret Sanger is the founder of Planned Parenthood. She was promoting
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contraception for what it's worth and not abortion, but put that aside. And that it, there was a racial
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component to it, a eugenics component to it, to get rid of blacks. Now that actually is true in the sense
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that Margaret Sanger was sending, you know, love letters to Madison Grant and so on. I mean, she
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conceived of herself as a eugenicist as many, many progressives did. Eugenics was a, and immigration
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reform was a progressive cause. And we haven't had it since the, the, the progressives of the 20th
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century, first half of the 20th century I'm talking about have left the scene. But anyway, um, so he's
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basically imputing racism into progressivism, which does have a strong, there's a good reason to do
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that in fact. Uh, but he also says that Planned Parenthood is thus antisemitic, which is odd because
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Margaret Sanger's Jewish, but Planned Parenthood is antisemitic because they are attacking the blood
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of Christ, which includes blacks. So from what I can take it, he is saying that blacks are
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a tribe. They're maybe a lost tribe of Israel, but they are a tribe of Israel. They are part of the
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story. They were there in the old Testament. And as Christians, they are continuing the story.
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So I do think it, I mean, it's not that it's kind of smart and it's weird, but I do actually think it's
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coherent and he is saying something. And in that way, I think he's actually getting at that
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weird ambivalence where he's not sure if he wants to hate the Jews or be the Jews. And even though he
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might be, you know, righteously angry at, you know, I don't know, Jewish globalists or Jews on
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wall street or Jews controlling the, um, the music industry and not promoting Christian messages and
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all of this kind of stuff, uh, he still sees himself as a part of that story. So it's a profoundly
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ambivalent outrage, but I think this is actually typical and tells us a lot about Christianity.
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Yeah. It's the, it's the problem of, you know, when Nietzsche, uh, mocks or describes as ridiculous,
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the, uh, Jewish or rather the Christian anti-Semite it's, it's a kind of incoherent position,
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right. Um, but, uh, and it, it, uh, and it's just sort of endless kind of, uh, toxic feedback loop,
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right. Um, where you, you're kind of, um, you're fixed to these people, you're fixed to the Jews
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because your God, your savior is Jewish. Um, and so maybe, and so he, likely he sees himself in the
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role of Jesus, for example, trying to, um, uh, you know, uh, teach or to show Jews their,
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their moral failings or that sort of thing. Right. Right. He's attacking the Pharisees
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productive activity, but yeah. Um, he's not attacking Jews. He's attacking the Pharisees.
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That's what he's doing. It's a, there's a long tradition of this. Sure.