RadixJournal - Depeche Mode： Momento Mori

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00:00:29.160 What is your takeaway from the album?

00:00:35.260 You know, to be honest, from listening to it and then sort of cheating and watching interviews beforehand,

00:00:41.680 I think they're kind of confronting the fact that they're both, you know, 61, 2, 3.

00:00:50.240 You know, they're older and their kids are probably old enough to be at the age they were when Ultra came out or something.

00:01:00.980 You know, the title kind of says it all.

00:01:05.140 And, you know, I think it is unfair to expect a violator out of them or anything like that.

00:01:11.340 You know, I think that's safe to say that's their apex and all that.

00:01:17.260 But I don't know if it's going to be the last Depeche Mode album ever, but it wouldn't be a bad note to go out on.

00:01:47.260 Yeah, it's definitely about death and soul.

00:01:57.960 I was trying to crack the nut of a lot of these songs because I do think they are about something.

00:02:05.400 I mean, for instance, Precious from many albums ago, you know, you could kind of hear it as kind of a basic love song of, you know, precious and fragile things need special handling.

00:02:21.960 But if you dig deeper, it is actually about his children and getting a divorce.

00:02:28.720 And you're going to need to leave space in your heart for two.

00:02:33.520 It's kind of confronting the reality of a child of divorce, and it's about Martin's divorce.

00:02:39.580 So it has a particular meaning if you can kind of crack the nut of it.

00:02:44.020 Precious and fragile things

00:02:48.600 Need special handling

00:02:52.460 My God, what have we done to you?

00:03:03.020 We always tried to share

00:03:06.520 The tenderest of care

00:03:11.020 Now look what we have put you through

00:03:17.880 Things get damaged

00:03:23.960 Things get broken

00:03:26.080 I thought we'd manage

00:03:28.520 But words left unspoken

00:03:30.740 Left us upwritten

00:03:32.980 There was a little left to give

00:03:37.380 This is the vibe that I got from the album

00:03:50.000 Which was that

00:03:51.980 I feel like it was written during COVID

00:03:56.360 And I think it was

00:03:58.480 Yes, that is

00:04:00.240 It was written during COVID

00:04:02.160 And they kind of sat on it for a while

00:04:03.820 Because it only came out about six months ago

00:04:06.260 And the

00:04:07.160 I think it was available in the United States

00:04:08.680 In like early 2023

00:04:09.980 Wasn't it?

00:04:11.680 Yeah

00:04:11.860 But I think it was probably done

00:04:14.000 Earlier than that

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00:04:15.640 Even

00:04:16.720 I mean like for instance

00:04:18.200 My Cosmos is Mine

00:04:19.760 I don't necessarily think this one is about death

00:04:22.100 Although it kind of could be

00:04:23.280 I think that's what's good about a song

00:04:25.720 Is that

00:04:27.000 You can unlock

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00:04:29.380 Meaning to it

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00:04:31.500 It doesn't just have that meaning

00:04:34.960 You know

00:04:35.780 Like I feel like country music songs

00:04:38.480 Are literal

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00:04:41.840 Basic

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00:04:44.340 Like

00:04:44.660 Don't try that in a small town

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00:04:47.800 You know

00:04:48.020 It's like just telling you

00:04:49.200 What it's about

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00:04:50.140 You know

00:04:50.740 My

00:04:50.920 What is the parody of country music

00:04:52.660 Like my wife left me

00:04:53.860 And my dog died

00:04:54.840 And you know

00:04:55.800 It's like

00:04:56.800 Beer in the tractors

00:04:58.720 Yeah

00:04:59.500 It is literally about something

00:05:01.880 And they tell you what it's about

00:05:03.700 But

00:05:04.760 I

00:05:05.280 I think

00:05:05.740 Songs are 1.00

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00:05:09.720 Layer to them

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00:05:11.820 Accessible

00:05:12.720 It's

00:05:13.320 It's about love

00:05:14.960 Or it's about

00:05:15.580 Lust

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00:05:16.780 Someone

00:05:17.400 Who's unreachable

00:05:18.820 Or you know

00:05:19.340 It's about the kind of typical things

00:05:20.740 But you dig down

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00:05:22.540 About something else

00:05:23.860 Like I think

00:05:25.460 People are good

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00:05:27.280 Literal song

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00:05:31.300 My cosmos is mine

00:05:32.800 And again

00:05:33.620 I don't know

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00:05:37.800 Martin Gore is saying

00:05:39.240 He wrote this

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00:05:40.820 At least the vibe

00:05:43.340 I got from it

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00:05:45.460 It

00:05:46.140 It

00:05:47.240 It feels like

00:05:48.520 It's someone

00:05:50.220 It's kind of like

00:05:51.800 The life

00:05:52.460 On cyberspace

00:05:53.860 And social media

00:05:54.940 Which even older people

00:05:56.800 Experience

00:05:57.800 You know

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00:06:00.080 And it's about

00:06:01.220 Kind of

00:06:01.820 Like

00:06:02.560 Shutting out

00:06:03.700 All these other voices

00:06:04.900 Don't play with my world

00:06:12.360 Don't mess with my mind

00:06:21.920 Don't question my space time

00:06:31.160 My cosmos

00:06:36.120 My cosmos

00:06:36.140 Is mine

00:06:38.300 You know

00:06:49.620 Don't alter my headlines

00:06:51.220 And there's this major key change

00:06:53.640 They said

00:06:54.140 No war 0.67

00:06:54.560 No war 0.67

00:06:55.020 No war 0.67

00:06:55.440 No war 0.67

00:06:55.900 No more

00:06:56.300 No more

00:06:56.680 No more

00:06:57.080 No fear

00:06:58.340 No fear

00:06:58.920 No fear

00:06:59.480 No fear

00:07:00.080 Not here

00:07:00.720 Not here

00:07:01.320 Not here

00:07:01.840 Not here

00:07:02.320 No rain

00:07:02.920 No clouds

00:07:03.520 No pain

00:07:04.140 This way of

00:07:05.600 Isolating yourself off

00:07:07.820 From

00:07:08.940 The world

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00:07:12.080 Cosmos

00:07:13.100 It's a

00:07:14.060 Metaphor of sorts

00:07:15.660 For

00:07:16.180 2020

00:07:17.060 Into 2021

00:07:18.820 Of being isolated

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00:07:22.140 Feeling

00:07:22.920 Like

00:07:23.560 There are all these

00:07:24.340 Just kind of

00:07:24.980 Like

00:07:25.260 Wagging tongues

00:07:26.960 I guess

00:07:27.320 Out there

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00:07:28.940 Kind of

00:07:30.060 Shutting yourself

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00:07:31.680 That was really

00:07:32.740 The vibe

00:07:33.680 That I got from it

00:07:34.400 But of course

00:07:34.840 You could kind of

00:07:36.360 You know

00:07:37.600 You could read it

00:07:38.240 In other ways

00:07:38.740 Like is he God

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00:07:40.400 I don't think

00:07:41.060 That's correct

00:07:42.120 I think

00:07:42.580 It's

00:07:42.920 It's something

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00:07:44.500 Like the

00:07:45.020 No war 0.67

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00:07:46.920 It's this

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00:07:54.960 It's also

00:07:55.500 Like how

00:07:56.040 You interact

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00:08:00.340 Just my

00:08:00.740 Impression

00:08:01.140 But

00:08:01.420 This is

00:08:02.060 Just kind

00:08:02.400 Of an

00:08:02.580 Example

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00:08:05.040 In which

00:08:05.840 The songs

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00:08:07.920 Like

00:08:08.180 They

00:08:08.860 They evoke

00:08:09.780 A particular

00:08:10.240 Time

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00:08:11.800 Might be

00:08:12.100 A little

00:08:12.380 Mystery

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00:08:13.220 Can

00:08:13.360 Discover

00:08:13.820 Like a

00:08:14.260 Puzzle

00:08:14.640 You can

00:08:15.020 Unlock

00:08:16.340 But then

00:08:18.180 They also

00:08:18.780 Kind of

00:08:19.220 Exist

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00:08:20.780 I'm

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00:08:21.360 Sure

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00:08:22.420 People

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00:08:58.640 with my cosmos is mine i actually have the exact same basic note is just that it reminded me of

00:09:15.980 social media and basically it's mine kind of like losing your uh autonomy basically in the

00:09:22.780 digital age uh because it's it's that alienation is always a theme in depeche mode songs or you know

00:09:31.500 usually and you're with the social media self you're kind of alienated or you know even worse

00:09:40.740 with the anonymous social media self you're kind of alienated uh from who you are in real life your

00:09:48.400 your actual identity and and i you know that that kind of resonated with me i think it's a good song

00:09:56.160 it's not a single right it didn't get released as a single it actually was well i don't even know

00:10:01.820 what a single it's definitely played live yeah yeah i don't even know what a single means these

00:10:06.660 days it was i believe it was this video that might be the the definition yeah it um it it was released

00:10:15.060 early so ghost again is a natural first single from the album and that was released before the

00:10:21.940 album was available and it's it has an upbeat tempo of course i think it's actually the meaning of the

00:10:28.220 song is darker but uh i could i could definitely imagine um you know i understand why it was released

00:10:36.280 early my cosmos of mine was also released early before the album was out so there was only those

00:10:41.300 two songs available um immediately so it was a single of sorts it's the first song i mean they

00:10:48.900 choose that and they usually i mean i've seen them live a number of times and at least recently they've

00:10:55.300 started the concert with the first track from the album yeah that was i believe i'm like 99 sure i'm

00:11:03.320 trying to think back to april but i believe that was the uh the first song that was played was my

00:11:08.380 cosmos was mine and you can always tell because of that that bass line you know the super fuzzy

00:11:14.300 kind of distorted bass yeah yeah and i i so i well i don't want to get ahead of myself okay so what i

00:11:24.420 have basically to say about if i just take that particular song so we're talking about um the ambiguity

00:11:32.900 in um martin gore's lyrics and he has said multiple times like they have a personal meaning for me but

00:11:40.160 i kind of want everybody to have their own meaning he likes when they're ambiguous and i would say

00:11:46.520 yeah that's probably the key i think that if i could sum up just in one word their lyrics it would be

00:11:53.200 ambiguity and that's why i think they're so good they're definitely dark they're definitely personal

00:11:59.360 but that ambiguity is you can kind of tell when it's

00:12:02.900 when martin gore's uh writing the song but i i think you know he is definitely one of my if not

00:12:08.440 my favorite songwriter but if we just go track by track talk about if we want to talk about uh my

00:12:15.600 cosmos is mine i i like there's a like a term called like the loudness wars or whatever that

00:12:22.560 basically just means too much compression and i i feel like that is a it kind of starts in hip-hop

00:12:32.880 if you really think about it like everything is and the drums are the kind of the driving force

00:12:38.240 in in like rap music which i think you know for well in many cases for worse but

00:12:44.620 the sound of music you know if you take that like late 80s early 90s

00:12:50.420 that has kind of since that time just kind of changed the sound of music and things have been louder

00:12:57.140 the drums have been punchier and it's been rhythm has kind of been emphasized more than um

00:13:03.680 than melody i would say in the past let's say 35 years in music you know overall just i i like the

00:13:11.480 sound i i even like the the kind of using the static noise as snares you know that's you know they've

00:13:19.880 done that previously before going back like 30 some years but you know that's the one thing is

00:13:26.540 that the i just felt like man this is just too it's only it's like too loud it's just a little bit

00:13:31.100 too in your face and well it's undifferentiated is that is that what i what i think you're getting at

00:13:36.160 where you can't really differentiate certain lines in the song and you just get this kind of like

00:13:42.100 wave of sound where it's difficult to differentiate instrumentation and vocals and lines and and so on

00:13:52.520 yes and there's a certain depth for the low end on a so you can only go so low is what i'm trying to

00:14:00.940 say and you can just hear that i mean you hear that like i said most notably with hip-hop you hear

00:14:06.560 the that 808 bass that you feel it you know from a distance and then you really it's like i just

00:14:13.080 think that yes they're an electronic band and and that's that's fine and all but i i it's just

00:14:19.260 overall i guess not just depeche mode but just modern music in general it's just it's so loud and

00:14:26.360 yeah undifferentiated is is a good word uh for it it's just it gets muddy you know and yeah i yeah

00:14:34.360 i i'm not really uh but okay fine we can table that criticism because i i could say that about

00:14:40.360 almost everything that comes out i definitely dig the bass line i like that that it's like fuzzy i

00:14:45.640 like that melody that you're saying yeah i think dave dave's vocals are great but i and and the

00:14:54.820 refrain it's not really a chorus or or a verse is anyway no it's not because i don't think they even

00:15:00.500 care about like creating a catchy chorus anymore it's like this weird there's like a key change

00:15:06.380 and it's almost like a different world that you enter in the song and it's kind of alien to what

00:15:14.540 the the the main verses are are talking about and i i find it interesting i mean i think for better and

00:15:23.420 for worse and often for better is that they don't need to write a pop album they they have a built-in

00:15:33.160 fan base they are old you know and they don't need to write a catchy jingle i mean for instance i

00:15:44.700 i just noticed on um when i was scrolling through twitter that the rolling stones have issued another

00:15:51.120 album i mean these guys must be pushing 80 because they're both like depeche mode and

00:15:56.960 uh you know the rolling stones are like technically boomers but i there's it's clear that this is of a

00:16:06.040 different generation you know these are kids who were influenced by punk in the late 70s when they

00:16:12.040 were in middle school and or or in high school maybe and david bowie which was um i learned that was

00:16:21.020 actually how dave joined the band is that he performed a david bowie song and they were like

00:16:25.740 you're in uh um well do you know which one i'm curious uh i can go look it up it was actually in

00:16:32.780 stripped um which is filled with tidbits like this yeah it's which one is actually really interesting

00:16:39.800 the other thing dave's voice has clearly changed you know as our voices do he was

00:17:09.540 probably more of a tenor early on and then by the mid 80s you have that baritone you know

00:17:17.460 clear like really distinctive irreplaceable voice um yeah and uh but anyway um they they are they're

00:17:29.720 of a different generation than the stones and the stones you know who must be pushing 80 i remember

00:17:35.120 seeing the stones in the 90s when i was in high school my parents went with me to this concert i

00:17:40.520 think they might have dragged me there but i'm glad they did with like another boomer couple that they

00:17:46.180 were here with and um it was at a stadium i mean it was packed it was huge and even at that point i mean

00:17:54.740 we're going on 30 years from you know then and at that point it was like how do they do it aren't

00:18:02.340 they're just going to collapse on stage like how are they alive you know and right we're it's now

00:18:08.960 that was like 1997 or something we're now in 2023 and they're doing it again but that song they're

00:18:15.200 released i mean i i don't remember it to be honest but i kind of liked it but it sounds it could have

00:18:21.800 been released in any decade you know it was just they're releasing a pop song and it has a stones vibe

00:18:29.100 to it but it could have been written by another number of different bands and it was fine you

00:18:35.360 know i'm glad they're doing their thing and i think the stones are cool and i think it actually if there

00:18:40.020 is an analogy to the like second boomer generation that depeche mode is a part of i think they are the

00:18:46.360 rolling stones to someone else's beatles like they are the dark villains as opposed to the you know

00:18:54.180 cute fun or even hippie pop stars they're the the alt alt so to speak but anyway what i was saying is

00:19:04.260 that i think we all kind of like want them secretly want them to release like music for the masses again

00:19:13.040 or something like something yeah just something where like i mean music for the masses might be their

00:19:18.980 best album i mean violator is obviously up there like every track is a classic um even like clean

00:19:26.280 or little 15 like like kind of oddball songs that don't always get performed live or anything like

00:19:32.680 even those are class you know and they're like awesome danceable but they they're not going to do

00:19:40.280 that they're not going to just like the rolling stones issuing a song that could have been produced in

00:19:46.720 like 1967 they're they they're not going to do that they're not going to have like you know master

00:19:53.400 and servant part two or strange love part two and just do that standard format of like a catchy minor

00:20:01.580 mode synth you know riff and then you know anthem chorus and stuff like that they're just not going to do

00:20:10.900 it and i think i admire them for that i was another thing i saw so i'll probably follow some of the

00:20:17.360 same depeche mode fan accounts on twitter but there was actually an ai depeche mode song that was released

00:20:25.680 i retweeted it and okay i think yeah i think i saw that we might want to just recall it if you send it to

00:20:34.440 me or i'll like add it in and post or something but like it was good that was kind of the scary

00:20:41.740 thing and obviously like the problems of ai and the threat of ai that's a whole other different

00:20:46.180 discussion but it was cool and it did the same you know it had a little blues rhythm to it

00:20:51.720 a synth riff uh some you know chorus about pain and love or something like that

00:20:58.920 and it but it was ai it was fake and even though it actually was a pretty good song like i'll

00:21:23.380 you know tip my cap to the computer that wrote it um it was fake and i just i don't think they're

00:21:31.240 going to do that they they know they're they're spoiled in some ways they know that they have a

00:21:35.640 built-in fan base they know that they're legends in the alternative rock community and in actually

00:21:41.860 beyond they know that we're going to appreciate things so there's kind of spoiled and that can lead

00:21:46.200 to decadence or just unlistenable albums which momento mori is not it is good actually

00:21:52.840 um and i'm glad they did it but they want to experiment and they want to do what they want

00:21:59.480 to do they don't have to write an anthem like chorus they can kind of write this weird haunting

00:22:05.120 chant about you know no war no war no war no war no more no more no more no more no more

00:22:11.980 yeah no fear no fear no fear no pain no doubt no uh what is it my foot no final breath no senseless

00:22:19.320 death that just this like weird kind of like chorus from outside demanding an end to all suffering

00:22:26.860 and it's awesome and it's haunting and they can do that because they don't need to write another album

00:22:32.960 if they had just retired in like 93 they could have called it a day and been legends

00:22:39.880 you know yeah but they kept doing it and even you know even with the death of fletch they just

00:22:49.320 keep going so they they obviously have a creative drive and you know some of the best work that

00:22:55.940 depeche mode has done has even been like soul savers with dave gahan and the soul savers or whatever

00:23:01.940 they're calling i mean some of these like blues albums cool kind of like post country

00:23:08.840 blues electronic blues so i don't even know how to describe yeah but it's just awesome i love the

00:23:16.520 soul savers actually i think they've just done great stuff really depeche modi gets to the blues vibe

00:23:21.800 moving from the dark

00:23:25.960 i'm all of this and nothing

00:23:33.200 i'm the dead beneath your feet

00:23:41.220 i'm the sun that rises while you're sleeping

00:23:48.620 and i think they're just willing to do that like their rock is dead and i don't know if we're

00:23:56.300 going to see a new band like enter the scene that is comparable anymore i mean i i think this this

00:24:06.300 moment in time is kind of over and and there are lots of reasons for that but just their willingness

00:24:13.580 to write a an experimental album and to do what they say what they want to say and do what they want to do i

00:24:21.260 i definitely admire it

00:24:23.260 and you know ghost again they can throw in something that's kind of poppy

00:24:27.260 and major key

00:24:28.700 you know they can kind of throw that in

00:24:31.100 but it's still but there's still the mystery it's a little bit dark because it's

00:24:35.260 ghosts again you know yeah if it's not if it's not in the music it's in the it's in the lyrics or or

00:24:42.380 yeah

00:24:42.940 definitely i mean i think that's a really profound sentiment because it's

00:24:51.020 so it is again about death this is all about soul like it's i'm gonna take my soul with me like i'm

00:24:56.940 gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna leave this world and go to a clear blue open sky and i'm taking my soul

00:25:03.500 with me and my favorite stranger is about a doppelganger

00:25:07.420 my favorite stranger stands in my mirror puts words in my mouth all broken bitter

00:25:27.900 yeah some perfect stranger sneaks on tiptoes steals my shadow goes where i goes my favorite stranger

00:25:34.460 stands in my mirror puts words in my mouth all broken bitter i mean this

00:25:38.700 it's all about so he's he feels alienated from himself there but it's it's about death and soul

00:25:44.700 and i had never heard that sentiment before of like

00:25:48.620 ghost again this notion you know it's you're going back to a spirit again you were a spirit before

00:25:55.580 there's like an embedded cosmology or theology to the song for that to work i don't know if those

00:26:03.660 words have ever been put together in this sentence before before this i'd never even really thought of

00:26:10.380 it that way i was just gonna say you know it's kind of funny i i mean upon listening to them when i

00:26:18.540 first really started to get into peche mode about five six years ago i remember that you that you were

00:26:25.020 oh yeah it wasn't until uh relatively recent but i mean i i was still am obsessed but um when you

00:26:34.140 got into them you went all in oh yeah i mean i i'm one of the i'm one of the devout as as they say

00:26:42.060 yeah um i was kind of struck i was like i wonder why richard's into uh this this band because all

00:26:50.380 not all many of the themes are seemingly christian at least they're highly introspective

00:26:59.740 yes at the very least we can say that and that's kind of you know the self-examining conscience

00:27:05.580 that you that you get in christianity i you know i'd say even more so than um judaism or or islam

00:27:12.700 um but uh yeah i mean that that's why at first i was kind of like i wonder why is he like this band

00:27:19.740 you know i mean this was you know during the karaoke video that you know went semi-viral or

00:27:27.180 whatever yeah yeah which i would have been happy to uh have taken part in because i would have backed

00:27:32.300 you i would have done uh i would have been the martin to your day but um but uh anyway that's all i

00:27:39.100 wanted to basically say well i like them because they're a christian band just like you too yeah

00:27:46.140 exactly yeah absolutely you too has a theology it's a millennia in millennian theology in fact

00:27:53.740 about we christ has won the world and we're bringing it back like we're bringing it towards him

00:28:02.140 it's a millennia millenarian theology of uh of of making the world christ-like and so it's a it's

00:28:10.220 a very peculiar thing it's it's not the kind of pessimistic fundamentalist like it all gets worse

00:28:15.100 and worse and then the apocalypse comes and blah blah no um it's it's something very different and i think

00:28:22.780 that's you know outside of the just cool vibe and sound that they have which i do love like that's why

00:28:33.260 i love them and the same thing with martin gore and depeche mode it's yeah it's it's a it's a protestant

00:28:42.700 band and it's deeply introspective and deeply alienated from the flesh and all of their songs

00:28:54.700 are ultimately about this and i really appreciate that so i mean i you know whatever my own whatever

00:29:02.940 my own aspirations might be for this or whatever my own like criticisms of christian morality are or

00:29:08.620 whatever and i've made those clear on some level it just doesn't matter like i appreciate the

00:29:14.380 authenticity of both you two and depeche mode in that regard like if you're gonna do it do it you know

00:29:21.980 like be authentic yourself and i think like there's there's also this element of these kids in basildon so

00:29:30.780 it's these young guys who grew up in a in a kind of like synthetic world it was like a neo-futurist

00:29:41.580 suburban community that was created post-war to take on overflow from london and so it has all of those

00:29:52.220 you know it has all of those kind of like hopes and aspirations but also alienation and self-loathing

00:29:59.580 that we see in like the american suburbs of you know you're you're kind of achieving the american

00:30:07.660 dream or in this case the uh you know full expression of welfare socialism and futurism

00:30:14.940 you're you're achieving it and then you you get it and it's lacking and hollow and so there's almost

00:30:23.740 this like this this dual quality to depeche mode it's it's inherently an electronic band

00:30:30.540 and in a synthetic band in that sense i mean famously they would perform concerts with a tape

00:30:36.540 deck rolling in the background right where they were just they were just open about it you know like

00:30:41.660 we're not gonna we're not gonna pretend we're not gonna have anyone accuse us of being you know

00:30:48.220 synthetic we're just gonna roll the tape while we play but they were playing instruments but that

00:30:52.780 the backing tape was right there and so there is this kind of like modernist futurist synthetic

00:31:00.780 quality to it but i i guess what gives them interest is that they're not just a kind of dance band they've

00:31:07.500 never created a dance album really they've influenced dance albums or techno or whatever but they've never

00:31:14.460 done it themselves uh because it's like overlaid on top of that is this self-introspective maybe like

00:31:24.540 loathing of the flesh kind of like protestant mentality that is in combination with something

00:31:35.260 that is kind of that's like commercial and synthetic and i mean i i think you know it's very it's

00:31:43.260 interesting when you think about like the vince clark leaving the band um but i do think that that

00:31:49.100 was the best thing that ever happened i mean obviously vince clark is a very interesting guy

00:31:54.140 and um you know yaz or yazoo um i great 80s stuff and you know a erasure great some great songs

00:32:07.500 maybe a little too gay at times but you know oh yeah oh yeah but but kind of like it's it's fun you know

00:32:15.420 and and he's a great songwriter but if they had stuck with the just can't get enough sound that i don't

00:32:24.220 think they would i think they would have been just this like footnote on 80s pop you know like the new wave

00:32:30.620 generation and um they they would have just been played at like 80s retrospective nostalgia nights or

00:32:40.700 something or it would have been fun but instead their band was deconstructed and then martin took over

00:32:48.940 songwriting and he brought his own truth to the band that was very different than

00:32:56.300 than vince clark i mean the guy kind of night and day i mean you can see some similarities and

00:33:02.140 and and i don't want to like limit clark but like it was just a total it went from day to night i guess

00:33:09.340 this may be the the right way it went to the minor mode it went to you know kind of sexiness but in a

00:33:18.060 creepy way um blues inflection yeah a kind of like twisted perversion but then kind of like a guilt

00:33:26.940 overlaid also and also in a lot of martin's songs and where he's singing kind of like well look at me

00:33:34.620 i'm like forgive me i'm kind of like this cute looking guy who i'm in a black dress and i have my fingernails

00:33:44.060 painted black it's almost like uh he used to wear like stuff that would say like submissive and stuff

00:33:49.740 like in other words yeah like like he's the servant like he's the yeah i i mean i don't mean to uh

00:33:58.140 throw gay accusations i'm not um but we well he's apparently not gay because he's been married and has

00:34:05.340 children so like you don't want to accuse him but he's he's someone who will kind of go there he he has

00:34:10.860 yes yeah you know and he probably is someone who would like feel guilty about it and there's

00:34:15.740 something with like never let me down again which i've i've always felt like just some of the lyrics

00:34:23.100 choice like you know we'll be as safe as houses as long as you remember who's wearing the trousers like

00:34:28.220 right it it strikes me as homoerotic now i don't maybe that's just the trousers or you know i'm taking a

00:34:38.140 ride with my best friend maybe they're just too many kind of like connotations but it does that that

00:34:45.020 is what it sounds like but he's it's not you know it's very different than like you know erasure

00:34:53.660 saying like you know break these chains of love or something like that music and again i'm i i like

00:35:00.220 erasure like i don't but it is just open liberated gay i am who i am here you know you're yeah you

00:35:09.020 know take it in world you know like you know i'm here i'm queer get used to it or whatever

00:35:13.100 which is fine you know but like martin could also never do that like if he were

00:35:42.940 to engage in some perversion or even like contemplate it or write a song about it he would feel

00:35:49.020 guilt laden afterward like that's who he is and and i think that gives it a kind of balance

00:35:57.420 where a lot of erasure can be pretty cringe you know you know yeah oh depeche mode's never cringe

00:36:06.060 you were talking about um how their stuff wasn't dance influenced and i say about the closest that it got

00:36:13.740 to dance like house music ish was probably on the world violation tour if you listen to

00:36:21.900 like even the enjoy the silence version it's got a uh very house type of vibe to it uh everything

00:36:29.740 counts then the world violation version has a very like house kind of dancey kind of feel

00:36:42.780 and i remember martin saying in an interview uh with uh it was that guys uh paul gambicini in

00:37:10.860 before the release of songs of faith and devotion he was like you know everybody's like expecting us

00:37:16.060 to make a dance album but it's kind of like that where forgive me because i know you're not the

00:37:22.060 biggest fan but like the beatles were hippies and then it became cool to be hippies and the beatles

00:37:27.820 are already done with it like in that in that sense depeche mode was they did they you know dip their

00:37:36.060 toes they were influenced by and they influenced house music and it was we're already on to grunge

00:37:41.500 we're on the next you know we're going to the next thing yeah uh kind of what i'm trying and they knew

00:37:48.780 that and um had basically planned to obviously have a twist with every album but it's it's about the

00:37:57.420 you know looking forward to the next thing as opposed to you know repeating a formula and not doing say

00:38:04.620 violator 2 or which yeah is you know the reason that the fact that they would take chances and they

00:38:11.260 never had that mute wasn't owned uh by emi i think and not until 2004 or something you know and they

00:38:18.700 never had a major there's always literally what they wanted and i think with an album like black

00:38:27.180 celebration which was i mean i believe it was like number 70 like worldwide it did not or 71 somebody it

00:38:34.860 did not chart uh as they had wanted it to and daniel miller had been telling them like you know don't

00:38:43.260 expect it was so moody and dark and you know we we love it for for those reasons oh yeah this album

00:38:51.580 this album kind of reminds me of black celebration in the sense that there aren't the singles don't

00:38:59.260 grab me nearly as much as the as the you know the other tracks i don't know the non-singles uh yeah

00:39:08.300 ghost again and and wagging tongue and my cosmos is mine you know all at the beginning of the album

00:39:14.620 it gets it's kind of a gets better and better as it goes on what's track number four um don't say you

00:39:22.620 love me yes yeah i think from then on it just seems to get better and better

00:39:29.260 yeah so i mean and a lot of those i i think i have in my notes here that the the ones written

00:39:35.660 with uh richard butler from psychedelic furs i don't know that those are my favorite i mean uh

00:39:42.780 with the exception of uh don't say you love me perhaps he because he he actually co-wrote that one

00:39:48.700 as well yes anthony fantano i don't know you're familiar with him he does all the music reviews he's

00:39:53.740 kind of that stereotypical uh super annoying millennial you know you're not i might know

00:40:01.420 him i i i might i've listened to a few like audio documentaries on the new album um on like apple

00:40:09.820 music and stuff like that but but go on he famously did an interview with sam hyde in like 2016 and then

00:40:17.100 backtracked uh anyway so yeah so he was reviewing memento mori and he said you know i don't really

00:40:26.060 like the first half of the album and um i don't i'm not gonna say that i don't like the first half

00:40:31.340 of the album but it does get better and better and it is mature and that's you know and they were

00:40:37.100 always in my opinion strangely pervy but mature um in their um songwriting and then in the it was

00:40:45.740 never too poppy i guess is what i'm trying to say but anyway like like you said they're at the point

00:40:50.540 where it doesn't matter they don't have to make this album if they don't want to but it's it's what

00:40:54.460 they want to do and it is you know it's from this 60 year old perspective which i and you know i think

00:41:01.900 everybody has this prejudice about in their in their mind that a pop star or any kind of musician

00:41:08.700 has to be young and has to be but i can i i mean like you were talking about the rolling stones i can

00:41:14.060 still appreciate this this album you know despite the fact that i know it's coming from and basically

00:41:22.540 my dad's kind of place you know an older uh perspective you know yeah early boomer or a late

00:41:31.020 boomer early uh gen x kind of thing but yeah it's it's late boomer but it's it's like these are the

00:41:39.500 people who told the gen x who the generation x who we are you know like they they they were older than

00:41:49.500 us they're i think you know they're like 15 to 17 years older than i am probably more than that for you

00:41:56.780 but they they kind of like told us who we were when we were young like when i was i mean my my entree

00:42:04.620 to depeche mode was overhearing it in my sister's room growing up so she and i believe i overheard

00:42:13.260 it on vinyl actually because i think we we kind of skipped tape decks and we went straight to uh

00:42:20.620 to cds but um but we would make everyone had a walkman and so you you'd kind of like make yourself

00:42:28.300 a mixtape this was the uh 80s 90 90s kid vibe and um but i remember overhearing and i don't know which

00:42:38.460 album it was exactly it might have been some great reward or it might have been black celebration or even

00:42:45.500 music for the masses um but i was i was just kind of coming into my own i probably was eight years old

00:42:53.740 or 10 like really young i mean in a way i mean my daughter is um around that age and yeah it's kind

00:43:03.020 of funny to even imagine yourself you know in that kind of mindset but i overheard her playing this and

00:43:10.460 she did have a a record player and and she had vinyl and and then she had a cds later on but i 0.92

00:43:16.220 remember her over overhearing it and just i was hooked from then i mean i you you said that you got

00:43:23.500 into them but you know you went all in five years ago i mean it's been a journey i mean i don't know

00:43:30.540 of a time when i didn't love them and wasn't super into them and they didn't just speak to me i mean

00:43:37.820 they were kind of like the first band that spoke to me weirdly i even remember in my like there was a

00:43:43.660 party when i was graduating from high school and there was a dj at this party and then they said uh

00:43:51.420 oh by request you know um we're gonna play master and servant by depeche mode and everyone actually

00:43:56.940 just looked at me they're like richard you're just kind of you know i i just kind of like lovingly

00:44:03.980 mocking me like oh we know who put that request you know like there's only one man who did that

00:44:11.020 um and uh so i mean they and i think even at that point they were probably like this that's like 1997

00:44:19.500 ish at that point i think they were probably remembered as like a 80s band or something like

00:44:25.020 that that's probably like what a lot of people knew about them but again i was following them i was

00:44:29.660 attending their concerts like i knew of the trajectory with songs of faith of devotion and

00:44:35.180 ultra and like going in to the 2000s but anyway anyway that's my story i mean it's like i don't think

00:44:42.060 there's ever been a time in my life when i haven't been listening to them i don't maybe you could call

00:44:48.380 this pathetic i've just i've listened to these songs hundreds of times and i heard them when i was eight

00:44:55.340 they've kind of been with me so it's pretty remarkable stuff i was gonna say um okay so a

00:45:04.780 quick little uh similar experience i had was i was at a few years ago i was at my buddy's wedding and um

00:45:13.820 you know after a few cocktails i'm it was a really good wedding a lot of people there

00:45:19.260 and i'm begging the dj i'm like you gotta play something by depeche mode and he's like man who's

00:45:24.220 depeche mode and i was like oh my god you've got to play this song and i think there were only three

00:45:29.340 songs available and i would have just played enjoy the silence because that's you know they're most

00:45:35.740 famous at least i think most people would have would have gotten that but it was personal jesus

00:45:40.860 did matter to me and i play it and i think i was the only one everyone looked at me like

00:45:47.100 you know we wanted uh whatever kind of hip-hop song i think i killed the vibe for everybody

00:45:54.460 but i was on cloud nine i mean i think i might have been the only one dancing and and i was you

00:45:59.580 know i was i was ecstatic but um yeah so it's similar situation as far as like oh who played that

00:46:07.420 that song gee i wonder who yeah i've been you know since i i the first song i heard was enjoy

00:46:14.060 the silence i think and it wasn't it was the guitar was just perfect that it was but it was also the

00:46:22.860 from when it goes from uh c minor to e flat and that just a

00:46:29.100 yeah you know the the oh my that with the with the voices like that was i was like getting chills like

00:46:35.100 the first time i heard that and then i think the second song was uh policy of truth which i was

00:46:40.140 just like because i was familiar with with rap and and the the idea of samples i mean that was all

00:46:45.980 around when i was a when i was a kid and i knew of depeche mode as far as like you know maybe my

00:46:52.060 parents had like one song by them but which was probably and i knew i did know of master and servant

00:46:58.780 but but when i'm talking about when i like actually like sat down and kind of like absorbed it

00:47:03.500 and i remember listening to i think by it had to have been violator then all the way through

00:47:11.980 and then it just grew on me and it grew and like it really with a lot of their albums just took like

00:47:18.380 hold and it was kind of like these cobwebs have turned into chains kind of thing and i uh yeah i just

00:47:25.340 became uh obsessed uh similar but from you know the the millennial perspective that's good that's

00:47:34.380 good no i i mean this this is a little bit off the beaten track but i i i said earlier that rock is

00:47:41.180 dead and i i do believe that and i you know i could go into this for i i it had a moment where it was

00:47:49.820 culture defining and cultural trans culturally transformative and it no longer is and it is

00:47:58.700 basically a source now of nostalgia or in a way it's a source of kind of like music that is background

00:48:06.140 noise and that is sad but you know all good things come to an end you know like cinema is coming to an

00:48:14.140 end on some level like opera had a 125 year run of being culturally defining music and no longer now

00:48:24.780 it's museum piece for the you know rich to to enjoy it just is what it is um but uh yeah i mean i i think

00:48:37.020 in a way these like gen x and boomer bands are the still ones they're they're the last ones producing

00:48:44.860 albums and thus like creating new content in a way that everything else is like radically fragmented

00:48:53.340 where it's like someone's creating ai music someone's creating some like he's a soundcloud artist with

00:48:58.780 tens of thousands of followers doing whatever um you know this and that someone's just into nostalgia

00:49:06.780 i mean i i was talking with someone who's quite he's younger than you i presume he's like gen z he

00:49:11.740 was saying that there are all these like gen z girls who will listen to nirvana on vinyl and so it's like

00:49:19.740 this weird you know we weren't listening in the 80s we all knew of the beatles or the stones or whatever

00:49:26.460 we weren't like defining ourselves personally through them um it's weird to think of that and it was

00:49:35.900 something like nirvana that was coming in and just smashing everything um and uh yeah but i mean i think

00:49:43.180 it's like these older like the gen x band is the last one to produce an album like an actual work where

00:49:48.940 you're like let me sit down and listen to this and i don't think that exists anymore i think it's just

00:49:55.660 it's radically fragmented it's like a cool thing some kid does on soundcloud it's having a 90s playlist on

00:50:03.340 spotify it's buying a vinyl album of like pink floyd or nirvana and listening to it on vinyl to be you

00:50:11.580 know the ultimate hipster or something like that um but it's very rare that a band is producing

00:50:19.580 something new telling you something speaking to you and producing something original i i think we're

00:50:25.980 we've just seen the end of that yeah um that's interesting that they would choose nirvana

00:50:33.260 because it is obviously a uh you know smash everything i mean i was listening to an interview

00:50:40.540 that kurt cobain gave i don't know what year exactly but he's saying he's like i don't know

00:50:46.380 anything about like dorian modes or any of that shit he's like that's just a 0.93

00:50:51.340 bullshit to to get in the way of originality or whatever yeah i yeah i kind of i kind of disagree 0.99

00:50:59.100 a big crunch yes yeah i'm but you know it's just like when he said that shit about 1.00

00:51:05.820 if you're racist don't buy our records or whatever he just you know uh whatever that's 0.94

00:51:11.740 a personal thing but um yeah i i i'm certainly no music snob but i think that attitude is uh

00:51:18.460 ignorant to to say the least yeah but as far as as as far as people in the millennial uh gen z

00:51:26.380 i think i can group them together in this case it is a it's like a replaying of like well what did my 0.83

00:51:34.060 what were my grandparents and parents listening to because we've client yeah like you were saying

00:51:39.500 we're at the top yeah like what was revolutionary back in the day i mean because nirvana

00:51:45.500 everyone had an opinion on nirvana i mean people there were like news reports on nirvana local news

00:51:52.540 reports about you know what do we make of this it's it's it's grungy and out of tune and nihilistic

00:52:00.220 like what does this mean for the youth and so on like they're in and like well how did this band that

00:52:05.980 no one had heard of like sell out like why why is this band you know all the kind of pop stuff from the

00:52:11.580 80s is gone this band is outselling madonna you know what what has happened to the world like

00:52:17.740 they're they're they're looking back at a time when something actually was transformative

00:52:24.540 under the assumption that no music created today however good it might be has any cultural impact whatsoever

00:52:33.580 yeah and what did nirvana end up leading to i mean the early part of the we take what bleach comes out

00:52:42.220 in 89 and then never mind their biggest one comes out 91 which goes on to really change music so or i

00:52:49.660 would say if you split the 90s in half and that early half is grunge it's dark it's pearl jam nirvana um

00:52:57.580 sound garden yeah yeah it's and then the later songs of faith of devotion yeah and so yeah and

00:53:05.980 songs of faith and devotion but and but the later half of the 90 the the 95-ish shot it's spice girls

00:53:13.020 britney spears in sync yeah and and then we get to 99 that's when like m&m really takes over and it's just a

00:53:21.660 different kind of different blend of nihilism i guess but um i i i think i've said this before but

00:53:28.460 like the 70s punk stuff kind of nirvana kind of mirrored that in the 80s more like glamorous kind of

00:53:35.900 poppy stuff the later 90s early 2000s kind of mirrored that because i remember being in elementary

00:53:42.700 school and it was all that was on mtv that you could watch um until maybe 10 a.m was just britney's 0.82

00:53:51.500 spears and sync backstreet boys it was yeah that's what that's what dominated it and

00:53:58.700 those obviously have not aged well i don't i mean their sound isn't wow man i i really need to hear

00:54:05.980 that you know maybe as as an irony which is another thing that's super common for uh the millennial and

00:54:14.460 uh gen z uh uh age bracket yeah or like this euro pop parody that was so hilarious um danger and dance

00:54:24.860 yeah yeah yeah uh clapping clapping the hands yeah when the rhythm is glad there is nothing to be sad

00:54:41.660 yeah it's it's this like journey back to when you were when a millennial was like five and they overheard some

00:55:01.580 like euro pop band you know it's it's just a pure i mean i even like that song i mean i would i i think

00:55:07.900 it's fun actually but it's it's just pure irony and nostalgia like there's no sense that this is leading

00:55:16.780 anywhere it's just going back and rehearsing or reiterating something over and over i mean it's kind

00:55:23.580 of sad yeah and you know you've got 12 notes in the uh western scale of music but you know there's still

00:55:32.780 other i was thinking about this there's still other scales and things to be explored and you know they

00:55:39.740 might like if for example if you did like a byzantine scale or or some kind of like egyptian scale yeah

00:55:46.940 it would sound you know kind of like weird to the to the western ear and it doesn't necessarily

00:55:54.700 you know it's not a to e or uh a to d or something like that my god just to do anything to change it up

00:56:01.420 and that's like i think well but i think that's where like lyrics come in i mean it's a total artwork

00:56:07.340 yeah you know it's combining a a sentiment and poetry and music i mean that's the thing that's

00:56:16.780 the thing that's special and different and unique and you can't really you you can't really put your

00:56:25.340 finger on it or to find it and you can't really imitate it um but yeah i mean to go a little bit

00:56:34.700 to go back to the album a little bit um so one thing depeche mode did and and this is actually a song

00:56:44.140 co-written with uh richard butler but don't say you love me you said that you didn't really like

00:56:51.180 the first half of the album or the the first four tracks i i might disagree i usually do like those

00:56:56.940 but one of the things why i like don't say you love me is that the the vibe i got from it actually

00:57:04.700 was like it's a bond song and it had the flat seven or sharp seven chord like the brown you know

00:57:15.100 kind of like clangy kind of 60s chord and it's singing about love in a kind of croonish um way

00:57:24.060 like um you are the singer i am the song the tune that will linger the the bitter taste left in your

00:57:30.300 tongue um you'll be the killer i'll be the corpse you'll be the laughter and i'll be the punchline of 0.71

00:57:35.420 you'll be the 1.00

00:57:40.540 the scream

00:57:44.060 you'll be the promise

00:57:47.820 that i'll be the end of your dreams

00:57:53.740 so don't say you love me

00:57:56.140 you'll be the end of your dreams

00:58:01.820 because you'll never love me

00:58:11.820 kind of self-deprecating he's he's singing about a woman who's kind of winning or he can't have her

00:58:29.260 and she's just she knows it something like this but just this the vibe of it there's even some strings

00:58:36.300 in the chorus it it struck me as like a crooning bond song like a really cool bond song actually

00:58:45.900 that would come in the the the title sequences and i don't think they've ever really done that before

00:58:51.580 i think that was a totally new direction for uh for depeche mode and and martin gore in particular

00:58:59.420 yeah i definitely liked the uh well first of all i wouldn't say i didn't like dislike the the the

00:59:08.860 first four tracks that's that's what uh anthony fantano said but i understood where he was coming

00:59:13.100 from as far as i didn't come to listen to the whole album for singles in fact i think soul with

00:59:18.460 me is probably my favorite we'll get there yeah um but i definitely like the string section on there

00:59:24.540 uh and don't say you love me i i mean dave's voice you had mentioned this earlier it changing

00:59:31.500 it is kind of it kind of reminds me of i don't know if you're a sting fan at all but uh sting's voice

00:59:37.340 as it got lower because when he started you know you take a song like roxanne it's way up there but as

00:59:42.780 he gets older about 10 years into it it gets it's kind of like uh i mean it's like a wine or a bourbon

00:59:48.940 or something like that it's got the age to it now it's kind of rough and smooth at the same time

00:59:53.740 that's what i think i mean obviously dave's a baritone and uh sting's a tenor but his voice

00:59:59.260 it's just it's powerful still and it's got this like little bit of grit but it's still smooth kind

01:00:07.020 of i don't know how to uh to really describe it but i yeah i definitely like uh don't say you love me

01:00:14.460 yeah and the other one is people are good which isn't really one of my favorite songs but

01:00:23.740 i do find it interesting because the the immediate song you want to compare it to is

01:00:29.340 people are people but i think this also it's and i think it's it's almost like and martin gore

01:00:35.580 wrote it it's almost like a rejoinder to people for people which wasn't that was that was that a

01:00:43.900 part of some great reward or is that just like a single on its own because they they have a couple

01:00:47.900 of interesting singles like shake the disease and a couple of others people are people yeah

01:00:54.620 people are people is on something that's on some great reward okay i think it's the third track

01:01:00.300 okay so you you have construction time again where everything counts is like a real single

01:01:06.460 and i think that was actually like number one in germany and things there was some funny interview

01:01:12.620 that they had where they said like where you know where are you popular like oh we're popular in

01:01:17.180 europe and soviet union they're like where are you unpopular they're like oh at home which is kind of

01:01:22.140 funny yeah they were like more they spoke to people they spoke more to eastern europe or central europe or

01:01:31.260 someone closer to the soviet union um and there is a vibe to that with the scythe wielding woman on 1.00

01:01:37.740 broken frame and music for the masses and so on a kind of cold war vibe which is interesting yeah

01:01:42.620 hopefully we'll talk about that when we get to those but um yes uh like people are people so

01:01:49.420 why should it be you and i should get along so awfully um we're different colors and we're different

01:01:54.700 breeds we're different people who have different needs it's obvious you hate me though i've done

01:01:59.420 nothing wrong i've never even met you so what could i have done yeah i've never even met you so what could

01:02:05.020 i have done yeah what makes man hate another man help me understand

01:02:33.020 it's coming from a very peculiar perspective because it's about racial hatred i would say

01:02:47.340 but then it's assuming that we're all people like why should it be like we're different colors and we're

01:02:56.060 different breeds but why should it be that you hate me you know how is this possible and so

01:03:02.940 it's a kind of like disappointment express which i think is also expressed in like where's the

01:03:09.740 revolution you know like how long are they going to piss on you where is the revolution why haven't

01:03:14.940 you done any it's a it's a weird it's a very peculiar kind of perspective actually and then people are

01:03:23.900 good which it it doesn't have the anthem like chorus of people are people it's not going to be

01:03:30.780 played at stadiums etc but it's an interesting sentiment and i think this is like his most

01:03:37.020 literal song um but keep telling myself that people are good whisper it under my breath so i don't

01:03:44.300 forget keep fooling myself that they do all they can sometimes they simply slip up but it's not what

01:03:51.420 they meant heaven help me heaven help heaven help me heaven help us heaven help us keep reminding

01:03:56.700 myself that people are good and when they do bad things they're just hurting inside keep fooling

01:04:01.900 myself so what he's saying is that they're not that he's fooling himself to believe that people are good

01:04:08.060 and when they do bad things

01:04:18.540 they're just hurting inside keep fooling myself

01:04:24.300 keep fooling myself

01:04:26.940 keep fooling myself

01:04:29.100 everyone cares

01:04:31.100 and they're all full of love

01:04:36.300 it's just their patience gets dry

01:04:38.300 it's a kind of like you know rejoinder in fact to people

01:05:07.260 people which assumes that people are good and this is actually selling no all that leftist garb i

01:05:13.900 mean i again i don't think depeche mode is necessarily a right or left band i think they

01:05:19.020 they kind of flirt with right-wing things they flirt with communism i i definitely don't think they're

01:05:23.900 a left-wing band although i guess you could kind of sort of see that with where's the revolution but

01:05:30.620 i don't actually uh but and i think that's what makes them good i mean heaven help us if they

01:05:36.700 became like a christian rock band or something like that like they would have nothing to say

01:05:43.180 but it's basically saying that people are bad you're inherently bad and i can tell myself i can

01:05:49.420 fool myself whisper to myself that like you're hurting inside and that's what you did that's why you did

01:05:55.180 this but actually you're just bad

01:05:57.180 yeah that's really intimate it's an interesting sentiment and it's kind of like a good rejoinder

01:06:06.060 to the heady post-racial liberalism of people are people if i don't say so myself

01:06:12.860 mm-hmm yeah it's kind of um like the people are people is kind of like that idealistic i'm a young 0.98

01:06:19.660 kid i'm what's the stupid ass cliche quote if you're uh not a liberal in your teens you don't 0.96

01:06:27.900 have a heart if you're not a conservative i mean that's kind of what you're making me think of when 0.99

01:06:31.980 yeah when you say that but um you know what when you said disappointment um i didn't really think about

01:06:39.100 that being a lyrical theme in their songs but it definitely is if you take a song like uh things

01:06:47.340 you said i heard it from my friends about the things you said you know yeah never felt so disappointed

01:06:56.860 whatever like yeah that that is definitely uh a theme if we go to the next song uh wagging tongue

01:07:05.260 did didn't that kind of sound like uh vince clark could have uh been involved in the studio as far as

01:07:14.860 the arpeggiated sin you know it was kind of like ah yeah i can see you taking you back but not no you

01:07:23.340 know not in a bad way or anything like that yeah i mean another thing too i think is the lyrics in

01:07:30.460 all these songs seem oppositional like there's you know the the writer or singer versus somebody else

01:07:40.620 whether it's a woman whether it's a person there's there's i don't know maybe that's sounds really

01:07:47.340 really obvious but you know it's like uh or like adversarial kind of and you know maybe that's gone

01:07:56.780 that's just a theme that's just continued since people are people which by the way i did want to

01:08:02.380 mention being that it is more obvious i don't think it's been played live since the uh 101 show in uh

01:08:11.660 pasadena in 88 so which i think is interesting because you know they're most on the nose kind of song and

01:08:20.380 yeah i think they definitely don't want but they always play never let they never let me down again

01:08:25.980 they always play personal jesus they always play enjoy the silence there are a couple and they always

01:08:30.540 play probably just can't get enough as they're like back to the 80s you know yeah and it is did you

01:08:38.060 know we actually wrote this one yeah it is just a fun song for sure yeah i did uh i do and then

01:08:47.820 see even with that kind of upbeat vince clarky sounding feel how do they end it watch another

01:08:55.980 angel die you know that kind of watch another angel die and i did write down the chords for that one

01:09:03.660 the chords aren't anything i mean at least if um this website is to be trusted that they're not anything

01:09:10.460 it's literally a one four five and then uh a four five one they just switch keys really quick that's

01:09:19.020 that's it there's nothing you know and not saying that you know their songs need to be that way that

01:09:25.420 everything needs to be an experimental thing obviously but just goes back to that opposition

01:09:30.620 even when it's a happy song it's not really a happy song or yeah you know

01:09:34.860 you won't do well to silence me with your words a wagging tongue

01:09:44.140 with your long-told tales of sorrow your song yet to be sung

01:09:52.220 i won't be offended if i'm left across the great divide believe me they will follow

01:10:08.060 just to watch another angel die

01:10:14.140 well what do you think that one is about i mean again i i feel like to go back to my

01:10:21.820 theory that this is a covet album it it strikes me a bit like cancel culture or something you won't

01:10:31.020 do well to silence me with your words or wagging tongue with your long tall tales of sorrow your

01:10:37.180 song yet to be sung that's obviously um sarcastic it's like i mean i it's weird i'm not i'm genuinely

01:10:46.060 not trying to make them a right-wing band but i'm not trying to make them a left either but this is

01:10:53.500 your long tall tales of sorrow your song yet to be sung this sounds like just bashing i don't know

01:11:01.420 like someone who's telling the singing the sorrowful song of george floyd or something and just kind of

01:11:10.540 them just being like you're you're not gonna silence me with this um i won't be offended if

01:11:15.500 i'm left across the great divide like you all can go forward into your new world and i'll just will be

01:11:22.700 back there believe me they will follow just to watch another angel die watch another angel die so what is

01:11:28.700 that what do you think that means i mean immediately the the thought i i think of a police shooting or

01:11:37.020 something like watch another angel die yeah we're talking about martyrs modern day martyrs i mean

01:11:42.140 yeah that would that would make sense continuing with their obvious christian uh themes you know with

01:11:48.700 what you said with george floyd dare i use that cliche again but are are they becoming like

01:11:54.460 conservative in their in their old age i highly doubted or but they're not like magatards or anything

01:12:00.780 like that i'm not saying that but i think they're they're kind of they're expressing something pretty

01:12:05.740 serious in this yeah they stood they stood behind the uh j6ers um yeah i i martin gore was at j6 yes

01:12:20.620 could you imagine oh yeah that'd be funny alan walder also known as the q anon shaman yeah

01:12:27.820 once he left the band he really let himself go yeah yeah he's been walking dark paths ever since

01:12:38.860 yeah but i'll meet you by the river maybe on the other side is this like again this evocation of

01:12:44.140 baptism and so on but i but it's a it's kind of like convoluted in a way it's it's also connecting it

01:12:54.060 with watch another angel die like you're enjoying it and you're that's what you're about to do and

01:13:02.140 again i just i i know this this almost sounds like too literal or too easy but my impression listening

01:13:08.780 to the first two tracks in the album is that they're about cancel culture but in a good way

01:13:15.260 like if some dumb conservative wrote a song about cancel culture it'd be like you know we are free speech

01:13:21.740 right it's in this gland yeah i can tweet what i want and i'll defend your right to tweet what you 0.97

01:13:30.780 think too but you shouldn't censor me like it's just it would just be unbearable just unlistenable

01:13:39.340 garbage you know akin to rich men from richmond or something it was just just terrible but when you do it

01:13:46.060 this way and you bring in religious imagery it becomes kind of interesting because it can be it 0.95

01:13:53.500 can be about whatever you want in a way you know but it also kind of gets to the like archetypal

01:14:00.300 element of what they're doing i i can't disagree uh with anything that you've said or or really um

01:14:08.140 add to it but as far as the uh watch another angel die yeah that i don't even know if they know

01:14:13.660 what it's about kind of thing yeah um

01:14:19.820 the contemporary uh martyrs i guess exactly and and martin gore is resisting it which i think is

01:14:28.220 very interesting yeah but go on oh go on would have thought due to his ancestry that he would feel

01:14:34.220 some sympathy with the uh oh you don't believe that i'm joking i don't believe that i read that in

01:14:42.140 strips and i'm not saying i'm not like i don't care actually like i'm not i would still love the

01:14:48.620 band just as much if so in stripped it was revealed i don't even know if it was the book that revealed

01:14:54.940 this or it's it's mentioned somewhere else he definitely doesn't wear it on his sleeve the notion

01:14:59.100 is that his um father was like a black american soldier or something yeah like uh what it would have

01:15:08.220 been no it couldn't i don't know why it wouldn't have been that there were no there were no soldiers

01:15:12.220 stationed oh no no 60s but there weren't so weren't there soldiers i mean i'll go look and stripped

01:15:20.300 maybe i'll go find where true but i mean not not that it's impossible obviously if you're a soldier

01:15:28.140 you're kind of traveling around the world but um it so there's this notion that his father is black he

01:15:34.860 was not raised by his father his father's absent from his life he's raised by his mother um and then

01:15:41.980 there was actually a line from stripped which i remember they're like oh yeah we noticed that 0.99

01:15:45.820 because of his pee or something i i don't know if they were saying that he had a big dick or 0.98

01:15:51.900 whatever i do know yeah it just sounds extremely inconclusive it sounds like a story his mother told him 0.99

01:16:01.020 and i'm sorry but if you're half black you look like barack obama you don't look like martin gore

01:16:09.180 like it's not i mean it's possible there could be some weird fluke of genetics that he looks as white

01:16:17.100 as he does but he's actually half black i just i'm i i don't even i don't even like doing this because i

01:16:23.580 don't really i don't want to really go after him it doesn't matter he he could be from you know

01:16:30.220 zwahili land or from china and i would still appreciate his music and perspective so it it

01:16:36.940 genuinely does not matter but i remember reading that and thinking to myself this is just

01:16:43.340 this is some story his mom told him perhaps to like gain social credit or something i just i do not

01:16:50.940 believe it i actually want to backpedal for a second okay so i don't know what you thought of

01:16:57.660 of i like playing the angel i liked uh yeah i like playing the angel uh i didn't care for there's

01:17:06.460 a what is it three albums uh sounds of the universe not not a fan of yeah that one delta delta machine

01:17:15.580 wasn't it might have been a hint of something here there and uh spirit i i wasn't a huge fan of i mean i

01:17:24.060 remember when it came out that was actually was that right it might have been right before or after i

01:17:33.980 started getting into them but i remember listening to where's the revolution and you know i just felt

01:17:41.260 like the marxist imagery in the video i was kind of like uh i maybe i'll have to well i know i'll

01:17:48.540 eventually revisit all of them yeah but um the problem is at least for me and um this is i'm just

01:17:58.300 echoing uh alan wilder here but he said in interviews without sounding um uh polemical or anything he's

01:18:07.500 basically just saying you know what we did on songs of faith and devotion and what i had been trying to

01:18:14.460 do more of is get like a clip or a loop or a you know piece of performance and add it i mean obviously

01:18:22.060 he was playing drums back then but the point is is that the sound has become too robotic there's not

01:18:29.180 like on these drum machines they all have this in some form or another they had this swing where you can

01:18:34.460 put it and and you can place the hi-hat or the snare or the kick drum just behind the beat or just in

01:18:41.500 front of the beat so it sounds like a drummer's playing you know extra anxiously or something

01:18:47.340 and he was what he's saying is that something that a lot of rap producers will do

01:18:54.380 is take that whole drum loop and so you get the feel of an actual drummer you know it doesn't every

01:19:01.660 song doesn't have to be this way the way that i'm explaining it with that kind of humanized

01:19:05.900 electronic feel what he was basically getting at is everything is so grid-like and that's something

01:19:12.460 that i would have to uh agree with it's not so much on ultra i think ultra they were still

01:19:19.260 doing it they were still having that no there's well some of the songs just flat out have what uh

01:19:27.180 the line what's the name of that song uh it's on all truck damn it don't tip my tongue 0.80

01:19:31.900 like a cat dragged in from the rain oh anyway that one 0.96

01:19:35.020 dragged in from the rain who goes straight back out to do it all over again i'll be back for more

01:19:48.620 it's something that is out of our hands something we will never understand the drums are actually played

01:19:57.180 on that but the point kind of remains is especially on from exciter on it just everything to me is just

01:20:04.700 cold and rigid and and that's why i can appreciate in a song like how's this for a segue in a song like

01:20:11.020 soul with me the drums yeah they're electronic and they're you know on the beat in the bar but there is a

01:20:17.500 kind of a kind of feel where it feels like there could be a band playing uh that song i just like the

01:20:25.020 intro the way the intro of that song starts with the it's kind of like these synthesized strings

01:20:33.500 i'm not gonna imitate the rest of it but you understand i think it is and i just think

01:20:39.580 no you'll disagree with this i like his voice better however big caveat is he's not a lead singer

01:20:46.700 he's good for the ballads he's good for i just like tenor kind of singers but dave is it's like

01:20:56.380 i would prefer paul mccartney's voice over john lennon's and john lennon is the more baritone singer

01:21:02.460 he's the lead singer do you know what i mean and and i like those kind of higher harmony uh singers

01:21:10.300 that's just personal preference or whatever but he kind of in that song he's kind of going for like

01:21:18.060 death as a sort of liberation i'm heading for the ever after leaving my problems and you know

01:21:28.460 world's disasters disasters i'm heading for the open sky yeah yeah yeah it kind of sounds like he's

01:21:35.580 he's you know headed to and i'm taking my soul with me oh yeah absolutely

01:21:42.700 i'm heading for the ever after leaving my problems and the world's disasters

01:21:55.740 i'm heading for the open sky

01:22:05.580 i see the beauty as the leaves start falling

01:22:14.700 follow the light towards the voices calling

01:22:19.580 i'm going where the angels fly

01:22:26.700 i'm going where the angels fly

01:22:35.820 and i'm taking my soul

01:22:39.820 in me

01:22:45.820 and i'm taking my soul

01:22:51.820 just a critique of the uh the actual song itself i just kind of wish there was a little bit of a

01:23:03.180 build-up to where i could because his voice on that song is to me it's really rich like it's just you

01:23:10.860 know it's in the right key and everything is what i'm trying to say and i just wish there was a little

01:23:14.780 bit of space i guess i could make that overall criticism of the the in the album is i wish there

01:23:20.700 was a little bit of space between voice and music you know maybe start off a little bit slower

01:23:28.940 you know and add instrumentation with the choruses and and verses but yeah i definitely really like the uh

01:23:36.940 the chords are textbook like martin gore there's always they make sense but then there's that one

01:23:44.060 that's just like wow how is this why is this here yeah that kind of thing but i know i'll let you uh

01:23:51.660 i'll let you uh marinate yeah that that is something the like shake the disease like like

01:24:04.940 it it doesn't make sense in music theory he's like going in what what is it it's like five three

01:24:16.300 five three and then like flat five it's it's a weird tonality i could go look at my score book that

01:24:23.660 it has has this in it but it's yeah it's creepy kind of like it it it doesn't it's like out of tune but

01:24:33.340 you know that it's intentional and so it's just kind of creepy and yeah i think there there is

01:24:39.740 something like unique about that that i could just hear that one little bit and know it's martin gore

01:24:45.660 that he would do that i mean even with you know enjoy the silence was their most pop song although

01:24:50.700 it was written something it was written very differently this was something in the stripped

01:24:55.660 book which is that martin writes with the guitar and um wilder wrote with keyboards or piano because

01:25:03.180 he was a pianist and um so i don't even know what he's doing he's coming up with some like weird

01:25:09.500 chordal formations in the guitar but that song enjoy the silence was written originally i don't know if

01:25:15.740 you've heard the like original backing track but it's this like organ you know yeah like very slow

01:25:23.180 dark weird and then wilder listen to it he's like this could be a pop dance track

01:25:28.860 violence break the silence come crashing into my little world painful to me pierce right through me

01:25:44.220 can't you understand oh my little girl

01:25:48.300 but even that ends on a um what is it it's in c sharp i believe and yeah so yeah it's in

01:26:01.180 they never as far as i know they never released an official official like chord book or anything like

01:26:06.780 that i remember reading an interview with alan saying like so a fan had basically asked why don't you

01:26:12.300 release a chord book and explain or you know show in notation uh somebody you know but he said and i

01:26:20.060 mean this was in 1998 ish or something like that he said that they hadn't done that he wouldn't be

01:26:24.860 interested in doing something like that because he said he never really played it the same as the record

01:26:31.340 but the version that i've always practiced or played is in c minor but so you're talking about

01:26:38.220 enjoy the silence right yes yeah so it's just a half step difference but but it's but it ends in c

01:26:44.060 major so it's like unnecessary they can only do harm so you end on the e and the c minor chord but then

01:26:55.900 the bass goes down to c major

01:27:15.980 and so it's just this weird obviously intentional but out of tune like there's no music theory that

01:27:23.100 would suggest that you do something like that it's very surprising and strange but it's just so

01:27:29.420 martin gore you know like you it works uh let me see what shake the disease is um that i was going

01:27:38.220 to before i think i'm gonna guess it's in d minor because it goes yeah i don't know if i should lower

01:27:44.540 my keyboard so again he goes to he goes down a semitone so it's this like falling sensation or

01:27:51.340 something so it's so you're doing a flat five while the bass goes down from d minor to d flat major

01:28:04.300 like again there's no i don't even know like you know so there's some dorian mode that we haven't

01:28:09.740 discovered yet or something i don't know any music theory that would justify doing that and so it almost

01:28:15.900 has like a blurring like you know like the um um you know i've got to get to you first like

01:28:24.140 it has this like blurred effect to it of whoa so that's bright but it's

01:28:41.900 it's it's great i mean it's it shows he's just doing it on his own like he's he's coming up with

01:28:58.540 a sound that's very intentional and it just kind of works there is a a word for that kind of progression

01:29:05.740 and it's i feel like i'm giving away his secrets because i once i you know i had to know how these

01:29:13.580 chords like fit well it works on a common tone so like you can if you if you flip between the major

01:29:22.380 minor modes you can find a common tone between two keys that are semitone apart so like c sharp

01:29:30.380 minor has a common tone of e with c major but otherwise you couldn't get any different but

01:29:38.140 there's that one common tone that e and because of the yeah yeah and it harmonizes but but again that

01:29:47.180 that works on a well-tempered clavier i mean it works on a piano it's it's just yeah it's just strange

01:29:53.660 but it's almost suggesting at least to me it's suggesting like a falling feeling like it's it's like

01:29:59.020 like the whole key is kind of like dragged down with like okay yeah great stuff definitely agree with

01:30:09.180 the falling aspect and there is which is the one that dave uh dave wrote did he write two songs on here

01:30:17.100 or because he wrote speak to me yes okay so there's a lift in speak to me it's like c minor e flat uh

01:30:28.460 f minor a flat whatever so that's fine that's all in the same key but then it goes from c minor

01:30:35.980 to c major to i'd have to find that but anyway what i'm the point i'm getting at is there i noticed

01:30:45.740 in his song the uh the lift and but yeah just basically that there was uh that lift being there

01:30:54.860 it was kind of like the yin to martin's yang because i know exactly what you're talking about

01:30:59.100 because you know they martin usually it's a minor key but then it goes to another minor so like

01:31:09.420 that kind of thing which is extremely dark it's the uh the chorus there um in speak to me that is

01:31:17.660 the chorus there's really um interesting

01:31:22.540 lying on the bathroom floor no one here to blame there's a message i know can be found

01:31:40.540 so that i think that was that especially that end

01:32:10.540 yeah what is that that is e flat to would be b major or oh wow to d flat back to e flat

01:32:27.820 so kind of like that

01:32:28.620 which you get in the song like instant karma by john lennon where it's like

01:32:40.620 don't want to get don't want to get back into beatles territory with uh

01:32:45.180 with you anyway i'm not you're kind of making me into more of a beatles hater than i

01:32:51.020 that i actually am but yeah um no i i appreciate it um but yeah i mean just to kind of like go through

01:33:01.820 all of these it's variation on death um and variation on the soul like it's ghost again is a poppy song

01:33:14.940 about dying but it's like becoming ghost again it's we were we were born as spirit and we're going to be

01:33:21.820 ghost again um soul with me is i'm taking my soul so i'm like it is like as you say like death is a

01:33:29.420 liberation i'm going to the open sky and i'm actually going to take my soul with me so it's this

01:33:35.740 kind of like i'm going to go i'm going to retreat into death but i'm going to be there

01:33:40.140 and it's not my soul isn't just going to vanish or or something i mean it's a you could say it's a

01:33:46.220 kind of image of heaven as well so it really is suicide and death maybe not suicide but perhaps

01:33:52.620 suicide and death is as liberation um yeah i definitely get that feeling from soul with me

01:33:58.700 i mean it's it yeah yeah i think uh ed dutton would have referred to those lyrics as a sick or something

01:34:04.860 because he's kind of you know excitedly not excitedly he's kind of yeah you know he's not

01:34:10.940 upset about it basically no no definitely but um you know i'm not uh sure can you figure out caroline's

01:34:23.660 monkey i can't like totally figure out that song you mean in terms of it's like tabulature or something

01:34:33.260 no no no the um what it's about yeah i i anytime i hear um monkey i think okay maybe that's like

01:34:44.860 heroin or something um but i'm i think it's someone who has like a tremendous amount of baggage that was

01:34:53.420 definitely my Caroline's monkey lives where she lays sleeps like a thief and steals through the days 1.00

01:35:00.380 Caroline's monkey makes up all the fun leaves chaos and ruin on Caroline's tongue it's like 1.00

01:35:06.380 singing about someone Caroline i mean i think care whether he knows someone named Caroline is up for

01:35:11.660 debate but i mean it's it it's someone who has this like you know devil inside or something or some

01:35:19.340 big baggage that's dragging her down feels the ice in her veins the minutes and hours the naming of

01:35:27.980 days Caroline said her dream never ends the Caroline's monkey and Caroline's friends

01:35:42.300 yeah because when i first heard that i was like Caroline's monkey like the hell but and then i i like

01:35:46.860 this also it's it's kind of like giving up like fading is better than failing i think fading is a

01:35:54.380 you know it's a euphemism for um smoking out isn't it like fading um i don't even know if that's

01:36:02.540 necessarily what he's indicating but fading is better than failing falling is better than feeling

01:36:08.540 um folding is better than losing giving up is better than losing fixing is better than healing sometimes

01:36:16.860 which is kind of which is kind of a reference almost to like you know i'm clean as clean as

01:36:22.460 i've been

01:36:30.460 i've been

01:36:32.380 i've been

01:36:35.820 Fade is better than failing

01:36:45.620 Falling is better than feeling

01:36:52.140 Folding is better than losing

01:36:58.340 Fixing is better than healing

01:37:05.820 Sometimes

01:37:08.940 There's like an inner dialogue I think with this album

01:37:18.540 I don't know if you can find other instances of that

01:37:21.720 With other Depeche albums

01:37:26.120 Of their kind of like revisiting and like offering a rejoinder

01:37:31.420 To some things they talked about in the past

01:37:33.020 Yeah that's interesting

01:37:36.060 Let's kind of sum up here

01:37:39.020 What are your feelings about the whole thing?

01:37:45.080 I think that it's a really good album

01:37:48.920 And I think that it's the best album they've done

01:37:53.420 Since playing the angel definitely

01:37:56.000 And it's kind of deeper and slower

01:38:00.900 You know none of these tracks are

01:38:03.220 You don't get vibes of youth

01:38:06.100 Even if you didn't know who the band was

01:38:10.540 Or anything about them

01:38:11.440 Or how old they were

01:38:12.820 And I think that Fletch's death

01:38:15.220 Which we didn't talk about yet

01:38:17.400 But I think that his death

01:38:19.480 And I believe Martin said this

01:38:21.380 Kind of cemented

01:38:22.560 In his head

01:38:24.880 That it was like

01:38:25.840 Because at first he was like

01:38:27.920 Well now that Fletch died 0.88

01:38:28.920 Do I want to name this

01:38:30.080 Memento Mori

01:38:31.320 And as far as I understand

01:38:32.200 He didn't even know what the album

01:38:33.380 Fletch didn't even know

01:38:34.480 What the album was going to be

01:38:36.520 Titled

01:38:37.600 Because he wasn't involved

01:38:39.280 In that kind of thing

01:38:40.460 Yeah

01:38:41.300 But I think that it's

01:38:43.900 It's unfortunate

01:38:46.780 But he kind of Fletch

01:38:48.880 In a way

01:38:50.080 Kind of contributed

01:38:51.260 Something to

01:38:52.360 Now please don't take this the wrong way

01:38:54.160 Contributed something

01:38:55.420 He contributed something

01:38:55.820 For the first time

01:38:56.700 Yeah I was gonna

01:38:58.600 I was gonna go for that

01:38:59.840 But I was just like

01:39:00.840 I didn't want to

01:39:02.700 Well we can talk about it

01:39:04.480 I mean

01:39:05.100 I do feel like

01:39:08.500 And I hate to say this

01:39:12.240 But Fletch was the most

01:39:14.660 Dispensable member of the band

01:39:16.720 And

01:39:18.540 You know

01:39:19.880 In a way you could say

01:39:21.280 That like

01:39:21.820 Early Depeche Mode

01:39:22.940 Vince Clark was indispensable

01:39:24.340 I mean he founded the band

01:39:25.740 He

01:39:26.160 He created the sound

01:39:28.400 I mean

01:39:28.840 Yeah

01:39:29.540 But he was dispensable

01:39:31.000 But I think in a way

01:39:32.340 He was

01:39:32.860 He was indispensable

01:39:34.060 In the sense that

01:39:34.800 It just became a totally new band

01:39:36.420 I mean

01:39:36.700 Speak and Spell is

01:39:37.940 Not a Depeche Mode album

01:39:40.400 In many ways

01:39:41.680 Right

01:39:43.020 Yeah it's

01:39:43.580 Free Yazoo or something 0.97

01:39:45.560 Yeah exactly

01:39:46.780 It's more

01:39:47.560 Right

01:39:49.140 Exactly

01:39:49.600 It's like an erasure album

01:39:50.900 Or something

01:39:51.440 And

01:39:52.740 Or Yazoo is probably more 0.99

01:39:54.080 More like

01:39:54.800 That's the

01:39:55.380 The vibe of it

01:39:56.280 Yeah

01:39:57.560 And so

01:39:58.680 He was indispensable

01:40:00.400 For that early stage

01:40:01.600 But then

01:40:02.080 They you know

01:40:02.800 It became Martin Gore's band

01:40:04.420 I think the sound

01:40:06.080 Of Dave

01:40:06.980 Is indispensable

01:40:08.040 Because he's Elvis

01:40:09.260 Yeah

01:40:10.720 Bass

01:40:12.400 Baritone voice

01:40:13.480 Even

01:40:14.060 You know

01:40:14.800 Definitely a baritone voice

01:40:17.000 It's tough

01:40:19.340 It can croon

01:40:20.600 A little bit

01:40:21.440 It

01:40:22.440 It can even

01:40:23.860 Kind of seem

01:40:24.580 Like raggedy

01:40:25.640 Sometimes

01:40:26.100 But

01:40:26.840 But never too much

01:40:29.020 You know

01:40:29.460 He's still

01:40:30.120 A singer

01:40:31.000 It's self-confident

01:40:32.320 I could

01:40:33.220 I could

01:40:33.460 It is indispensable

01:40:34.920 I don't think

01:40:35.820 Yeah

01:40:36.360 There is a Depeche Mode

01:40:37.580 Without that

01:40:38.160 And

01:40:38.400 I

01:40:39.100 I also like

01:40:40.120 A lot of the

01:40:40.980 The ballads

01:40:41.840 That Martin

01:40:42.680 Has sung

01:40:43.420 But

01:40:43.920 You know

01:40:45.060 What

01:40:45.280 What is Depeche Mode

01:40:46.340 It's

01:40:46.640 It's Dave's voice

01:40:47.760 Is an essential part of it

01:40:49.700 Yeah

01:40:50.620 I think Wilder was

01:40:52.060 Maybe dispensable

01:40:54.940 But

01:40:55.260 But definitely

01:40:56.500 Influential

01:40:58.060 I mean

01:40:58.320 I don't

01:40:58.820 I don't

01:41:00.080 Think they would have

01:41:01.340 Had the musicality

01:41:02.800 Without him

01:41:03.380 I don't

01:41:04.000 I

01:41:05.000 I think he

01:41:05.620 Contributed

01:41:06.400 You know

01:41:06.700 He contributed songs

01:41:07.680 Himself

01:41:08.000 I

01:41:08.620 I think he's a great

01:41:10.240 Artist

01:41:10.660 I think he's an

01:41:11.320 Essential component

01:41:12.360 But I guess you could say

01:41:13.700 Dispensable

01:41:14.280 In the sense that

01:41:14.840 They kept going on

01:41:15.680 But yeah

01:41:16.840 Fletch

01:41:17.480 I mean

01:41:17.820 And it seems like

01:41:19.000 A battle with Fletch

01:41:20.540 Of like

01:41:21.080 What is it that you do

01:41:22.480 What

01:41:22.800 What are you contributing here

01:41:24.640 Seems to

01:41:25.140 Contributed to

01:41:26.540 The

01:41:27.420 To

01:41:28.700 Wilder's

01:41:29.800 Leaving the band

01:41:30.720 Yeah

01:41:32.260 But

01:41:32.640 I

01:41:33.380 I do think he was

01:41:34.580 In

01:41:35.060 I do think he was

01:41:36.100 Dispensable

01:41:36.740 And I

01:41:37.940 He seemed

01:41:38.920 At least the impression

01:41:40.020 I got

01:41:40.540 Reading Stripped

01:41:41.420 And granted

01:41:42.000 I read this book

01:41:42.920 A number of years ago

01:41:44.160 But I

01:41:44.520 It did stick with me

01:41:45.720 But

01:41:46.400 I'm not even

01:41:47.620 He was definitely

01:41:48.840 The most normal guy

01:41:50.220 In the band

01:41:50.860 But I'm not even

01:41:52.560 Positive

01:41:53.260 He was like

01:41:54.340 The glue

01:41:55.940 That

01:41:56.220 That kept them

01:41:57.420 Together

01:41:57.860 No

01:41:59.200 I

01:41:59.720 Yeah

01:42:00.240 So

01:42:00.680 From

01:42:01.080 Maybe the opposite

01:42:02.480 Yes

01:42:03.660 Actually

01:42:05.360 So

01:42:06.640 I think I

01:42:07.840 I tweeted this out

01:42:09.060 A while ago

01:42:09.760 It was a clip

01:42:10.600 Of

01:42:11.100 Tepeche Mode

01:42:12.420 Had a

01:42:13.200 Leading up to

01:42:14.480 Playing the angel

01:42:15.120 They had a documentary

01:42:16.180 Or

01:42:16.500 Per each album

01:42:17.960 That they had made

01:42:18.560 Starting from

01:42:19.260 Speak and Spell

01:42:20.380 And when you get

01:42:22.500 To

01:42:23.060 Ultra

01:42:24.800 Alan Wilder

01:42:26.440 Alan Wilder

01:42:26.460 Is still

01:42:26.940 Featured

01:42:27.620 In the documentary

01:42:28.860 And

01:42:30.220 He

01:42:30.760 The closest

01:42:31.480 He gets

01:42:32.240 To saying

01:42:33.340 You know

01:42:34.520 Here's why

01:42:34.920 We broke up

01:42:35.540 He said

01:42:35.940 You know

01:42:36.180 I knew Dave

01:42:36.700 Had problems

01:42:37.260 But it wasn't

01:42:37.960 That wasn't

01:42:38.860 Necessarily

01:42:39.560 The biggest deal

01:42:40.960 For me

01:42:41.440 Because

01:42:41.860 He was about

01:42:43.020 He was most

01:42:44.740 Helpful

01:42:45.380 I guess

01:42:45.880 His biggest impact

01:42:47.280 Was in the studio

01:42:47.960 And he said

01:42:48.880 It was really

01:42:49.520 That his and

01:42:50.640 Martin's communication

01:42:51.720 Was at a low

01:42:52.540 And you know

01:42:53.780 I think

01:42:54.540 Flood says

01:42:55.880 That

01:42:56.200 On

01:42:57.340 The making of

01:42:59.140 It's like

01:43:00.200 The last song

01:43:01.280 That they were doing

01:43:02.040 Was Judas

01:43:02.700 I think they were

01:43:03.520 The last

01:43:05.580 Not last song

01:43:07.080 I think it was the mixing

01:43:08.080 It doesn't matter

01:43:08.600 Anyway

01:43:08.900 They're working on Judas 0.92

01:43:09.820 And Martin

01:43:11.120 And Alan

01:43:12.120 Were just like

01:43:12.740 Yelling at each other

01:43:14.100 As far as like

01:43:15.000 The direction of the song

01:43:16.060 And

01:43:17.020 I think

01:43:18.740 Alan said

01:43:20.480 Something like

01:43:21.360 In an interview

01:43:22.260 Afterwards

01:43:22.680 That basically

01:43:23.340 He got his way

01:43:24.340 On that song

01:43:24.980 And that's

01:43:25.480 How he intended

01:43:26.340 The song to go

01:43:27.480 I

01:43:27.820 You know

01:43:28.700 Can't say for sure

01:43:29.560 Who really knows

01:43:30.360 But

01:43:31.000 The point is

01:43:32.280 Is that

01:43:32.740 Fletch

01:43:34.580 Had also said

01:43:35.360 I had been saying

01:43:36.380 I wasn't gonna make

01:43:37.460 Another album

01:43:38.040 With him

01:43:38.680 Talking about Alan

01:43:39.640 And it's like

01:43:40.980 Dude 0.99

01:43:41.280 Who the hell are you 0.99

01:43:43.280 You know 0.99

01:43:43.740 I mean

01:43:44.080 Yes you're in the band

01:43:45.380 But like

01:43:46.020 You're not gonna make

01:43:47.520 Another album

01:43:48.240 With Alan

01:43:50.180 Like

01:43:50.520 You know

01:43:52.400 He's notoriously

01:43:53.400 The one that is

01:43:54.080 In the studio

01:43:54.600 Late at night

01:43:55.800 Working on the sound

01:43:57.400 And basically

01:43:58.260 Doing all these jobs

01:44:00.940 That on

01:44:01.520 For which

01:44:02.440 On Ultra

01:44:03.040 They would have to hire 0.64

01:44:04.040 You know

01:44:04.700 Five or six different people

01:44:05.980 To cover

01:44:06.900 So

01:44:07.700 Yeah he had

01:44:08.720 Basically

01:44:09.780 I just

01:44:12.440 Thought to myself

01:44:13.360 You know

01:44:13.680 What audacity

01:44:14.720 You know

01:44:15.500 Like

01:44:15.860 The guy that

01:44:17.160 Doesn't play anything live

01:44:19.160 Doesn't play anything

01:44:19.840 In the studio

01:44:20.380 Doesn't

01:44:21.200 Really like

01:44:21.960 Outwardly

01:44:23.560 Doesn't

01:44:24.080 He admits

01:44:25.160 He doesn't

01:44:26.300 Contribute

01:44:27.080 To

01:44:27.500 To the band

01:44:28.500 Or hasn't

01:44:29.300 Since

01:44:29.700 You know

01:44:31.460 1980

01:44:32.120 But

01:44:33.360 Yeah I just thought

01:44:34.680 That that was

01:44:35.340 Always thought that

01:44:36.280 That was interesting

01:44:37.080 That

01:44:38.020 Basically he had

01:44:39.340 Not

01:44:39.720 Contributed

01:44:40.660 And

01:44:42.020 And had kind of

01:44:42.820 Helped to push

01:44:43.660 Alan out

01:44:45.260 And I do think

01:44:46.060 As much as I love

01:44:47.200 Ultra

01:44:47.560 I do think that

01:44:49.080 You know

01:44:49.420 The sound is

01:44:50.140 You know

01:44:51.500 Not the same

01:44:52.040 Whatever

01:44:52.560 I'm sure that he did

01:44:53.680 Want to

01:44:54.040 I'm sure that he did

01:44:55.180 He's kind of like

01:44:56.420 The structural engineer

01:44:57.560 To Martin's

01:44:58.300 Yeah

01:44:58.920 Architect

01:44:59.520 I agree with that

01:45:01.180 Yes

01:45:01.440 Yeah

01:45:02.860 He's the

01:45:03.740 The

01:45:05.340 Alan's

01:45:05.740 The Rome

01:45:06.120 The Rome

01:45:06.780 To

01:45:07.120 Martin's

01:45:08.660 Athens

01:45:08.920 Or something

01:45:09.360 I mean

01:45:09.940 Yeah

01:45:10.600 He is

01:45:11.140 It's

01:45:12.000 It's

01:45:12.420 It's a shame

01:45:14.380 But you know

01:45:15.120 You find that in

01:45:16.080 In bands

01:45:16.780 Like Pink Floyd

01:45:17.980 Or

01:45:18.500 The Beatle

01:45:19.620 Whoever

01:45:20.040 You know

01:45:20.920 Where there is that

01:45:22.060 Antagonism in the studio

01:45:23.920 And

01:45:24.360 You know

01:45:25.420 They're basically

01:45:26.140 At each other's

01:45:26.960 Throats

01:45:27.500 And

01:45:28.560 You know

01:45:30.260 Out of that

01:45:31.200 Turmoil

01:45:32.940 You get

01:45:33.440 You know

01:45:33.880 Some of the

01:45:34.320 Which I do think

01:45:35.200 That

01:45:35.480 That is my

01:45:37.200 Favorite album

01:45:38.120 Of theirs

01:45:39.180 Is 0.88

01:45:39.600 Songs of Faith and Devotion

01:45:41.620 Yeah

01:45:42.480 But

01:45:42.980 Yeah

01:45:44.440 But as far as

01:45:45.720 Fletch's death

01:45:47.720 Yeah

01:45:47.940 I definitely

01:45:48.740 Thought of that

01:45:49.720 Earlier

01:45:50.400 When you were saying

01:45:51.420 When we were

01:45:52.400 Talking about

01:45:53.060 The beginning

01:45:54.120 Just the name

01:45:55.840 Of the album

01:45:56.280 And all that

01:45:56.720 I'm thinking

01:45:57.500 Is this like

01:45:58.480 The first time

01:45:59.140 That he's

01:45:59.720 Contributed something

01:46:00.620 But

01:46:01.380 Yeah

01:46:01.880 That's

01:46:02.400 I don't

01:46:03.780 You know

01:46:04.120 Totally think so

01:46:04.980 But

01:46:05.200 I mean

01:46:06.400 When they're asked

01:46:07.800 About

01:46:08.180 In interviews

01:46:09.060 About Fletch

01:46:09.800 They just say

01:46:10.340 Like

01:46:10.580 He's our

01:46:11.720 Number one fan

01:46:12.540 Or whatever

01:46:13.200 It's like

01:46:13.620 Yeah

01:46:14.080 It's interesting

01:46:15.040 In the

01:46:15.680 In the

01:46:16.320 The

01:46:16.920 The album

01:46:17.580 Release

01:46:18.160 Interview

01:46:18.660 That I watched

01:46:20.060 They said like

01:46:20.540 Oh is this about

01:46:21.360 Fletch

01:46:21.920 And so on

01:46:22.400 And they're like

01:46:22.820 Oh no

01:46:23.120 We actually

01:46:23.960 Had this before

01:46:25.000 His death

01:46:25.660 I think that's true

01:46:26.960 They were

01:46:27.720 I don't know

01:46:29.100 They

01:46:29.300 They weren't

01:46:31.140 You know

01:46:31.600 A year after

01:46:32.840 The fact

01:46:33.240 Or something

01:46:33.520 But they

01:46:33.840 They weren't

01:46:34.400 Just totally

01:46:35.120 Devastated by it

01:46:36.100 The album

01:46:36.440 Is dedicated

01:46:37.060 To him

01:46:37.620 I have the

01:46:39.000 Vinyl

01:46:39.360 It's great

01:46:40.220 To listen to

01:46:40.780 On vinyl

01:46:41.240 It's you know

01:46:41.940 It's right there

01:46:42.600 And like

01:46:43.660 It's hard to

01:46:45.460 Imagine

01:46:46.080 Depeche Mode

01:46:47.640 Without him

01:46:48.140 Like clapping

01:46:48.860 Or something

01:46:50.080 On keyboards

01:46:52.320 Clapping with everyone

01:46:53.540 But

01:46:53.820 But you also

01:46:55.300 Have to be

01:46:56.140 Accurate about

01:46:57.460 What he added

01:46:58.660 And

01:46:59.220 Yeah

01:47:00.660 I guess

01:47:02.480 It is what it is

01:47:03.180 Yeah I guess

01:47:04.600 He was a good

01:47:04.960 Communicator between

01:47:05.940 Martin and Dave

01:47:06.940 Especially

01:47:07.340 On the last

01:47:08.580 On Spirit

01:47:09.400 I guess they were

01:47:10.200 Really not

01:47:11.320 Seeing eye to eye

01:47:12.060 But also

01:47:13.040 I remember

01:47:13.940 Reading an interview

01:47:14.660 Where Vince Clark

01:47:15.720 Basically when he

01:47:16.860 Formed composition

01:47:17.960 To sound

01:47:18.380 Which would have

01:47:19.140 It's a precursor

01:47:19.880 To Depeche Mode

01:47:20.700 That he said

01:47:22.140 Like you know

01:47:22.980 Fletch is really

01:47:24.260 Good at bass

01:47:24.980 And it's just

01:47:25.680 Like well dude

01:47:26.100 Why didn't you

01:47:26.560 Play bass

01:47:26.940 Like why don't you

01:47:27.480 Do something

01:47:28.440 I just

01:47:29.340 You know

01:47:30.220 I don't know

01:47:30.600 Have an ego

01:47:31.180 Or whatever

01:47:31.500 But if you're

01:47:32.000 In a band

01:47:32.500 Like I would

01:47:33.140 Just be

01:47:33.640 All day long

01:47:34.940 That's all I would

01:47:35.500 Be thinking of

01:47:36.180 Is trying to

01:47:37.020 Contribute ideas

01:47:38.420 And something

01:47:40.260 But I don't

01:47:41.780 Know

01:47:42.000 I mean

01:47:42.580 Yeah

01:47:43.240 I can only

01:47:44.340 Really speculate

01:47:45.480 But yeah

01:47:47.060 I certainly

01:47:47.860 Think that the

01:47:48.640 Album's title

01:47:49.320 And content

01:47:50.760 Was further

01:47:52.480 Cemented

01:47:53.260 By his

01:47:54.380 Passing

01:47:55.200 Yeah

01:47:56.700 Where would

01:47:59.860 You rank

01:48:00.260 This album

01:48:00.820 It's hard

01:48:02.400 To do these

01:48:02.960 Rankings

01:48:03.420 Because it's

01:48:04.020 Not

01:48:04.320 You know

01:48:05.120 If it were

01:48:05.820 A band

01:48:06.140 That only

01:48:06.580 Lasted 10

01:48:07.280 Years

01:48:07.560 You could

01:48:07.980 You could

01:48:08.440 Kind of

01:48:08.820 Rank their

01:48:09.520 Five albums

01:48:10.300 And

01:48:10.640 But they

01:48:12.840 They've had

01:48:13.520 Like such

01:48:14.020 Different

01:48:14.740 Eras

01:48:16.040 Like there's

01:48:16.800 There's an

01:48:18.120 Era stretching

01:48:18.920 There's

01:48:19.260 There's a

01:48:19.620 One album

01:48:20.240 Era

01:48:20.560 Which is

01:48:21.020 Speak and

01:48:21.460 Spell

01:48:21.840 And then

01:48:22.260 There's

01:48:22.780 The

01:48:23.820 The 80s

01:48:24.720 Kind of

01:48:25.060 Maybe even

01:48:25.600 You could

01:48:25.840 Say like

01:48:26.500 Depeche Mode

01:48:28.700 Finding

01:48:29.180 Themselves

01:48:29.800 With a

01:48:30.060 Broken

01:48:30.300 Frame

01:48:30.980 And so on

01:48:32.580 And then

01:48:32.920 There's like

01:48:33.360 Crying

01:48:34.560 Depeche Mode

01:48:34.780 Yeah

01:48:36.600 With some

01:48:37.160 Great reward

01:48:37.920 Through

01:48:38.680 Violator

01:48:39.400 Maybe just

01:48:39.960 This like

01:48:40.460 Prime

01:48:40.920 Depeche Mode

01:48:41.680 Then

01:48:43.680 Kind of like

01:48:44.420 Late

01:48:44.800 Depeche Mode

01:48:45.660 Which I think

01:48:46.420 Starts in the

01:48:47.120 90s

01:48:47.680 Actually

01:48:48.560 I think

01:48:49.540 There's almost

01:48:50.040 Like another

01:48:50.820 Genre

01:48:52.240 Or

01:48:52.740 Era

01:48:53.360 Of

01:48:54.560 Perhaps

01:48:55.640 Created with

01:48:56.720 Delta Machine

01:48:57.360 Where it's like

01:48:58.100 We're no longer

01:48:59.560 Even pretending

01:49:00.460 That we're young

01:49:02.040 20 or 30

01:49:03.440 Something

01:49:03.840 Pop stars

01:49:04.620 You know

01:49:05.880 Like we're

01:49:06.360 Celebrating the

01:49:07.040 30 year

01:49:07.620 Anniversary

01:49:08.160 Of this

01:49:08.520 Band

01:49:08.940 We're

01:49:11.200 Going off

01:49:12.220 On our

01:49:12.560 Own way

01:49:12.980 And it

01:49:13.280 Is very

01:49:13.820 Mature

01:49:14.320 And introspective

01:49:15.640 Music

01:49:16.020 But I do

01:49:17.320 Think I would

01:49:17.840 Agree with you

01:49:18.360 That in that

01:49:19.140 Like it's

01:49:19.560 Better

01:49:19.820 It's a

01:49:20.160 Better album

01:49:20.600 Than Spirit

01:49:21.100 It's

01:49:21.860 Better than

01:49:23.240 Sounds of the

01:49:24.140 Universe

01:49:24.600 I like Delta

01:49:26.720 Machine

01:49:26.980 I like a lot

01:49:27.540 Of the

01:49:27.920 Songs on

01:49:28.700 That

01:49:28.940 It's a good

01:49:31.240 Album

01:49:31.520 And

01:49:32.480 I'm glad

01:49:34.240 They did it

01:49:34.720 I hope

01:49:35.060 They do

01:49:35.320 Another one

01:49:35.800 I hope

01:49:36.540 This isn't

01:49:36.980 The last

01:49:37.400 Yeah

01:49:39.140 Quick comment

01:49:39.900 On

01:49:40.240 Have you seen

01:49:41.240 Them live

01:49:41.700 Yet

01:49:41.940 I haven't

01:49:43.440 Seen them

01:49:43.760 Live with

01:49:44.300 This album

01:49:44.760 Yet

01:49:45.000 But I

01:49:45.300 Will

01:49:45.540 Because

01:49:45.740 They're

01:49:45.880 Coming

01:49:46.120 Back

01:49:46.420 To

01:49:46.540 North

01:49:46.700 America

01:49:47.140 Shortly

01:49:47.920 Yeah

01:49:48.600 I'm going

01:49:49.940 To make

01:49:50.260 Sure

01:49:50.420 I see

01:49:50.980 Them

01:49:51.300 Again

01:49:52.340 One more

01:49:52.680 Time

01:49:53.120 Good

01:49:53.600 Yeah

01:49:54.160 Definitely

01:49:54.680 They're

01:49:55.900 You know

01:49:57.260 Very

01:49:57.840 Very

01:49:58.160 Very

01:49:58.520 Very

01:49:59.020 Good

01:49:59.260 Live

01:49:59.680 There's

01:50:00.320 Nothing

01:50:00.540 Missing

01:50:00.960 You

01:50:01.340 Couldn't

01:50:01.620 Add

01:50:01.820 Anything

01:50:02.120 More

01:50:02.460 And

01:50:02.620 You

01:50:02.740 Couldn't

01:50:03.100 Take

01:50:03.420 Away

01:50:03.620 Anything

01:50:03.900 I think

01:50:04.380 Their

01:50:04.920 Their

01:50:05.200 Performance

01:50:05.660 When I

01:50:06.680 Saw

01:50:06.900 Them

01:50:07.280 In

01:50:07.400 April

01:50:07.660 Was

01:50:08.180 I mean

01:50:08.740 It was

01:50:08.980 Perfect

01:50:09.340 And

01:50:09.740 I

01:50:10.620 I

01:50:10.780 Mean

01:50:11.100 I'm

01:50:11.440 Sure

01:50:11.620 I was

01:50:11.780 Bothering

01:50:12.180 The hell

01:50:12.480 Out

01:50:12.680 Of

01:50:12.880 The

01:50:13.420 People

01:50:14.020 Next

01:50:14.340 To

01:50:14.440 Me

01:50:14.520 Because

01:50:14.800 Every

01:50:15.140 Song

01:50:15.480 I

01:50:15.640 Just

01:50:15.740 Knew

01:50:15.840 Every

01:50:16.120 Word

01:50:16.480 And

01:50:16.880 Oh

01:50:17.500 Yeah

01:50:17.620 Screaming 0.51

01:50:18.240 It

01:50:18.540 But

01:50:18.860 Yeah

01:50:19.580 It

01:50:20.120 Was

01:50:20.260 Moving

01:50:20.560 And

01:50:21.200 Yeah

01:50:21.860 It

01:50:22.220 Was

01:50:22.460 Awesome

01:50:28.520 Let's

01:50:29.220 Put a

01:50:29.460 Bookmark

01:50:29.780 In

01:50:29.940 It

01:50:30.080 Right

01:50:30.400 There

01:50:30.620 Wasted

01:50:49.740 Feelings

01:50:52.420 Broken

01:50:53.740 Meanings

01:50:56.540 Time

01:50:57.940 Is 0.88

01:50:58.600 Fleeting

01:51:00.200 See

01:51:01.800 What

01:51:02.720 It

01:51:03.920 Brings

01:51:05.040 Hallows

01:51:07.200 Goodbyes

01:51:08.240 A

01:51:08.580 Thousand

01:51:09.560 Midnights

01:51:12.260 Lost

01:51:14.660 In

01:51:15.040 Sleepless

01:51:16.100 Lullabies

01:51:18.260 Heaven

01:51:22.960 Dreaming

01:51:25.600 Thoughtless

01:51:27.240 Thoughts

01:51:27.860 My

01:51:28.220 Friends

01:51:29.220 We

01:51:30.920 Know

01:51:31.580 We'll

01:51:32.080 Be

01:51:32.420 Ghosts

01:51:34.220 Again

01:51:34.880 The

01:51:55.700 Sunday's

01:51:57.200 Shining

01:51:58.740 Silver

01:52:00.540 Linings

01:52:03.260 Weight

01:52:03.940 Weightless

01:52:05.280 Paths

01:52:06.940 !

RadixJournal - November 16, 2023

Depeche Mode： Momento Mori

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