RadixJournal - Depeche Mode： Some Great Reward

00:00:00.000 My little girl, won't you come with me?

00:00:27.000 Come with me and tell me

00:00:33.900 Is there something to do, is there something to do, is there something to do, is there something to do

00:00:39.900 I'm going crazy

00:00:46.700 I think we've now reached prime Depeche mode

00:00:52.820 Not peak

00:00:55.040 Definitely

00:00:55.560 But prime

00:00:57.720 Every song on the album is good

00:01:01.620 And some are better

00:01:05.880 Well, yeah, of course, some are better than others

00:01:08.200 And some are a little, you know, very deep cuts

00:01:12.800 I guess you could say

00:01:14.300 Stories of old and, you know, examples like that

00:01:18.940 But they also are getting to classics

00:01:24.000 And they're also pushing towards that anthem-like massive concert venue, arena, electro rock

00:01:41.860 And there are a couple of examples on this album

00:01:46.320 And they're also, I think, entering a new stage of electronic music

00:01:56.100 They probably entered this with Construction Time again

00:02:01.760 But I guess what I would say is that there's a German Autobahn, Kraftwerk sound and concept

00:02:18.400 That you definitely see in albums like Speak and Spell and A Broken Frame

00:02:23.460 It's synthesizer music, very simple chord progressions and melodies

00:02:44.500 And this is a Vince Clark sound, which he'll stick with throughout his career

00:02:51.620 And they're moving away from that

00:02:56.480 And they're going towards, I guess, what is another German sound

00:03:02.380 And that is the Einstürzende Neubauten sound

00:03:29.020 These are people that they met

00:03:30.220 These are people whose concerts Martin Gore was attending

00:03:34.740 Dave might have been busy

00:03:37.160 But Martin Gore is defining the band

00:03:39.740 Writing the songs

00:03:40.920 Defining the sound

00:03:42.800 The vibe, if you will

00:03:44.680 They're moving away from that notion of a synthesizer

00:03:49.120 Which is, in effect, a synthesized piano

00:03:52.360 And the synthetic sound

00:03:56.520 That you would hear

00:03:58.060 You know, you know

00:03:59.440 This almost, this ironic in many ways

00:04:13.240 Almost like childlike in some ways

00:04:16.180 Use of synthesizers to kind of create a new world

00:04:20.700 You're moving away from instruments

00:04:22.140 You're moving away from strumming a guitar

00:04:23.840 And you're going towards this objective sound

00:04:27.940 And singing about the technology

00:04:30.260 And all that kind of stuff

00:04:31.860 And we went into that a number of times

00:04:35.280 And they're moving into this place

00:04:38.300 Where you're getting rid of the drum machine

00:04:42.320 You're getting rid of drums

00:04:43.480 You're getting rid of meter

00:04:45.360 And time

00:04:46.660 And rhythm

00:04:48.800 As it's, you know, traditionally understood

00:04:51.740 And you're moving towards a noise

00:04:55.280 And finding something musical

00:05:00.160 Or something special in that noise

00:05:03.220 This is something that

00:05:26.880 Neubauten was definitely experimenting with

00:05:31.300 And it's something that Martin took

00:05:34.860 I mean, you know

00:05:35.620 Good artists borrow

00:05:39.100 Good artists are inspired by something

00:05:41.100 Great artists steal

00:05:42.180 And Martin Gore stole that sound

00:05:46.360 And added it to his existing ability

00:05:52.000 To write musical pop numbers

00:05:56.180 And I think this is where you're starting to see

00:06:00.860 Depeche Mode

00:06:01.480 They're moving away from that

00:06:03.440 Simplistic, synthesized piano

00:06:06.660 That stuff

00:06:10.360 That we know and love

00:06:12.080 And which is fun

00:06:13.400 And feels really 80s

00:06:14.900 And etc

00:06:16.140 And they're moving towards this

00:06:18.560 It's not so much dark

00:06:20.120 It's like unmusical

00:06:22.920 As that word is understood

00:06:25.200 It's noise

00:06:26.440 It's concrete

00:06:27.940 It's samples of a breathing machine

00:06:31.960 So this is my general impression

00:06:43.820 Of some great reward

00:06:45.960 It's a great album

00:06:48.860 In the sense that

00:06:49.840 All the songs are listenable

00:06:52.120 But it's much more experimental

00:06:56.320 And daring

00:06:57.440 Than perhaps it's given credit for

00:06:59.460 Yeah, I definitely agree

00:07:00.920 I think that you could put this

00:07:02.780 As their best album

00:07:04.200 If you'd like

00:07:05.500 There are

00:07:07.120 In my opinion

00:07:08.520 There are no

00:07:09.340 Bad songs on the album

00:07:12.820 It does kind of

00:07:14.460 And the B-sides are good 1.00

00:07:15.760 Yes

00:07:16.120 It does kind of rank up there

00:07:18.760 In your memory

00:07:20.220 Those are like great songs

00:07:21.620 Go ahead

00:07:22.660 Definitely

00:07:22.780 That's okay

00:07:23.920 With the sound

00:07:25.060 You can

00:07:26.400 It's definitely

00:07:27.420 There's a lot of sampling used

00:07:29.820 And it's very

00:07:30.880 Einstutzen, Neubauten

00:07:32.500 I'm not going to try

00:07:33.260 And pronounce that correctly

00:07:34.240 But

00:07:35.160 It is very much that

00:07:37.020 But there's also

00:07:38.240 I feel like there's a

00:07:39.420 Good balance

00:07:41.140 I hate to be corny here

00:07:42.740 But they really did get

00:07:43.540 The balance right

00:07:44.380 It's a good amount commercial

00:07:45.920 And it's a good amount deep

00:07:48.420 It is a great balance

00:07:50.860 And I think that's what makes

00:07:52.220 The record so good

00:07:54.560 And in my opinion

00:07:55.500 I think the cover art

00:07:56.720 For this album

00:07:57.540 Is even better than

00:07:59.140 A Broken Frame

00:07:59.780 I love

00:08:00.980 Oh, interesting

00:08:01.240 That cover art

00:08:02.480 I love the

00:08:03.700 Juxtaposition between

00:08:05.500 The married couple

00:08:06.620 Kind of looking

00:08:07.360 In each other's eyes

00:08:08.720 You can't really tell

00:08:10.020 Because it's so far away

00:08:11.920 Next to the factory

00:08:15.700 In the not so far distance

00:08:19.100 And that kind of

00:08:21.540 The innocence of

00:08:24.020 Modern love with industry

00:08:27.040 Right next to it

00:08:28.020 Kind of like

00:08:28.800 It almost asks

00:08:30.900 Like is

00:08:31.960 You know

00:08:32.740 Monogamous love

00:08:33.820 Even possible

00:08:34.540 The way they look at each other

00:08:35.920 Because like I said

00:08:36.980 It's ambiguous

00:08:37.680 You don't necessarily know

00:08:38.920 If they're fully in love

00:08:41.400 They just got married

00:08:42.240 But like many couples 1.00

00:08:43.540 Today that get married

00:08:45.300 It's

00:08:46.120 You don't know

00:08:47.220 How long they will last

00:08:48.540 Yeah

00:08:49.200 And it's

00:08:50.280 There's something

00:08:51.980 Deeply personal

00:08:53.380 But also impersonal

00:08:54.920 And I think that

00:08:56.360 Represents the album as well

00:08:57.580 There are

00:08:58.100 Certainly personal songs

00:08:59.740 On the album

00:09:00.900 And certainly

00:09:02.840 More worldly

00:09:04.000 Songs

00:09:04.860 More relatable songs

00:09:06.160 That not necessarily

00:09:09.060 Well

00:09:09.340 With people are people

00:09:10.440 They definitely are

00:09:11.180 Political

00:09:11.760 And even master and servant

00:09:13.000 But

00:09:13.320 Yeah

00:09:14.420 So that's my impression

00:09:15.820 Honestly after listening

00:09:17.180 To this over

00:09:17.840 Again

00:09:18.580 This would be like

00:09:19.800 Top three

00:09:20.380 Yeah

00:09:21.800 I agree

00:09:23.040 I'd also

00:09:24.240 Add this

00:09:25.360 Just to build on

00:09:26.000 What you're saying

00:09:26.480 One thing you mentioned

00:09:27.760 A couple of shows ago

00:09:30.360 Was that this factory

00:09:31.540 Was actually demolished

00:09:32.860 Shortly after

00:09:34.080 This photograph took place

00:09:35.920 So

00:09:36.240 It adds like

00:09:37.140 A whole other

00:09:38.140 Layer of irony

00:09:39.740 In the sense of

00:09:40.900 Deindustrialization

00:09:42.500 That was taking place

00:09:43.960 Throughout the 70s and 80s

00:09:45.400 You know

00:09:46.640 I'm kind of reminded

00:09:47.440 Even of

00:09:48.420 Like

00:09:48.940 Morrissey's

00:09:50.180 Song

00:09:52.060 You know

00:09:52.300 Every day is like Sunday

00:09:53.460 Where he's

00:09:54.180 He's talking about

00:09:55.340 This just horrible town

00:09:56.780 And you know

00:09:58.080 Come come

00:09:58.620 Nuclear bomb

00:09:59.460 And all that kind of stuff

00:10:00.440 But

00:10:00.680 It's all

00:10:01.440 It's an ironic

00:10:02.440 Commentary as well

00:10:04.000 On

00:10:04.620 You know

00:10:05.760 The dreams

00:10:06.660 Of the

00:10:07.240 19th and 20th century

00:10:09.280 Collapsing

00:10:10.160 And

00:10:10.740 You know

00:10:11.580 You thought

00:10:12.240 You hated industry

00:10:13.200 But now it's gone

00:10:14.260 And you're poor

00:10:15.720 And

00:10:16.720 There's

00:10:17.480 Nothing here

00:10:18.660 For you

00:10:19.540 Outside of

00:10:20.620 You know

00:10:21.440 Greasy trays

00:10:22.740 Today is

00:10:24.160 Silent

00:10:24.860 And

00:10:25.680 Grey

00:10:26.740 Light on the

00:10:32.380 Promenade

00:10:33.640 Edge

00:10:34.220 Post

00:10:34.860 Car

00:10:35.980 How I

00:10:38.520 Dearly

00:10:39.320 Wish

00:10:39.900 I

00:10:40.460 Was

00:10:41.540 Not

00:10:42.060 Here

00:10:42.860 In the

00:10:46.720 Seaside

00:10:48.020 Town

00:10:49.060 That

00:10:51.260 They

00:10:51.540 Forgot

00:10:52.160 To

00:10:52.600 Come

00:10:53.820 Come

00:10:54.740 Come

00:10:55.920 Come

00:10:56.720 Nuclear

00:10:57.860 Love

00:10:59.060 I'd also add

00:11:01.760 This

00:11:02.040 I think

00:11:02.580 The

00:11:02.920 Cover

00:11:03.580 Art

00:11:03.960 Is 0.88

00:11:04.280 Good

00:11:04.520 I mean

00:11:04.840 Look

00:11:05.460 Art

00:11:05.880 Aesthetically

00:11:07.240 Like

00:11:07.500 Purely

00:11:08.180 Aesthetically

00:11:08.900 I don't think

00:11:09.720 It's as

00:11:10.080 Interesting

00:11:10.620 As a

00:11:11.180 Broken

00:11:11.400 Frame

00:11:11.780 Because

00:11:12.320 I think

00:11:12.560 That's

00:11:12.820 One

00:11:13.020 Of

00:11:13.160 I

00:11:13.640 Don't

00:11:13.980 Even

00:11:14.140 Say

00:11:14.360 This

00:11:14.580 As a

00:11:14.820 Depeche Mode

00:11:15.360 Fan

00:11:15.640 I think

00:11:15.960 That's

00:11:16.160 One

00:11:16.280 Of

00:11:16.380 The

00:11:16.500 Best

00:11:16.760 Photographs

00:11:17.740 Of

00:11:17.900 The

00:11:18.040 20th

00:11:18.440 Century

00:11:18.740 I mean

00:11:19.060 It's

00:11:19.260 It's

00:11:19.540 Just

00:11:19.780 It

00:11:20.260 Looks

00:11:20.560 Like

00:11:20.760 A

00:11:20.920 Painting

00:11:21.500 And

00:11:22.680 It

00:11:22.960 Has

00:11:23.180 Political

00:11:23.900 Invocations

00:11:25.860 As

00:11:26.060 Well

00:11:26.260 I mean

00:11:26.480 It's

00:11:26.660 Very

00:11:27.220 Very

00:11:27.780 Interesting

00:11:28.400 But

00:11:29.840 I

00:11:30.140 Obviously

00:11:30.960 See

00:11:31.320 Your

00:11:31.520 Point

00:11:31.960 And

00:11:32.540 I

00:11:33.220 Think

00:11:33.580 You

00:11:33.700 Can

00:11:33.900 See

00:11:34.560 Some

00:11:34.840 Of

00:11:35.000 That

00:11:35.360 In

00:11:36.040 This

00:11:36.280 Album

00:11:36.760 I

00:11:36.940 Mean

00:11:37.100 For

00:11:37.980 Instance

00:11:38.460 Somebody

00:11:39.300 Is 0.88

00:11:40.620 A

00:11:41.760 Heartfelt

00:11:42.360 Song

00:11:42.900 It's

00:11:43.220 Sung

00:11:43.440 By

00:11:43.760 Martin

00:11:44.900 Gore

00:11:45.560 As

00:11:45.860 Opposed

00:11:46.100 To

00:11:46.300 Dave

00:11:46.800 And

00:11:48.000 It's

00:11:48.420 Kind

00:11:48.700 Of

00:11:48.820 Sweet

00:11:49.300 I

00:11:50.200 Mean

00:11:50.320 You

00:11:50.500 Could

00:11:50.920 Imagine

00:11:51.420 You

00:11:52.600 Know

00:11:52.720 Playing

00:11:53.180 This

00:11:53.460 Song

00:11:53.780 For

00:11:53.960 Your

00:11:54.100 Girlfriend

00:11:54.800 Or

00:11:54.980 Something

00:11:55.180 You

00:11:55.320 Know

00:11:55.420 It's

00:11:55.900 It's

00:11:56.260 Very

00:11:56.440 Heartfelt

00:11:56.980 But

00:11:57.200 It's

00:11:57.620 It's

00:11:58.500 Not

00:11:58.660 Really

00:11:59.160 Ironic

00:11:59.700 And

00:12:00.480 So

00:12:00.820 It

00:12:01.140 Does

00:12:01.660 You

00:12:03.180 Know

00:12:03.300 Kind

00:12:03.640 Of

00:12:03.780 Clang

00:12:04.320 Sometimes

00:12:04.940 But

00:12:05.200 I

00:12:05.340 Think

00:12:05.500 In

00:12:05.620 A

00:12:05.740 Good

00:12:06.180 Way

00:12:06.400 You

00:12:06.540 Know

00:12:06.680 Things

00:12:07.280 Like

00:12:07.520 This

00:12:07.800 Make

00:12:08.120 Me

00:12:08.340 Sick

00:12:08.620 But

00:12:08.800 In

00:12:08.900 A

00:12:09.020 Case

00:12:09.260 Like

00:12:09.460 This

00:12:09.700 We'll

00:12:09.880 Get

00:12:10.000 Away

00:12:10.220 With

00:12:10.400 It

00:12:37.800 I

00:12:41.560 Mean

00:12:41.680 It's

00:12:41.980 Like

00:12:42.120 A

00:12:42.240 Hallmark

00:12:42.600 Card

00:12:42.920 On

00:12:43.220 Some

00:12:43.460 Level

00:12:43.780 But

00:12:44.780 He

00:12:45.000 Does

00:12:45.280 Get

00:12:45.520 Away

00:12:45.760 With

00:12:45.960 It

00:12:46.100 In

00:12:46.260 Fact

00:12:46.560 It

00:12:46.940 It's

00:12:47.420 I

00:12:47.880 Like

00:12:48.120 The

00:12:48.280 Song

00:12:48.580 A

00:12:48.880 Lot

00:12:49.120 And

00:12:49.620 It's

00:12:50.020 Sincere

00:12:50.660 And

00:12:51.780 Then

00:12:52.420 You

00:12:52.540 Have

00:12:52.640 The

00:12:52.780 Stories

00:12:53.080 Of

00:12:53.280 Old

00:12:53.620 Of

00:12:54.180 I

00:12:54.660 Couldn't

00:12:54.960 Sacrifice

00:12:55.700 Anything

00:12:56.180 At

00:12:56.480 All

00:12:56.760 To

00:12:57.000 Love

00:12:57.440 Things

00:12:58.060 To

00:12:58.360 Disaster

00:13:00.120 Effect

00:13:01.520 You

00:13:05.200 Hear

00:13:05.580 Stories

00:13:06.300 Of

00:13:06.580 Old

00:13:07.200 Of

00:13:07.800 Princess

00:13:08.280 Bold

00:13:09.260 With

00:13:09.900 Riches

00:13:10.460 Untold

00:13:11.380 Happy

00:13:12.460 Souls

00:13:13.500 Casting all

00:13:14.980 Side

00:13:15.660 To

00:13:16.160 Take

00:13:16.440 Some

00:13:16.920 Brides

00:13:17.540 That

00:13:17.780 Had

00:13:18.040 To

00:13:18.300 Go

00:13:18.640 Their

00:13:19.040 Dreams

00:13:19.760 At

00:13:20.880 Their

00:13:21.380 Side

00:13:21.960 But

00:13:22.540 Not

00:13:22.920 Me

00:13:23.620 I

00:13:24.540 Can't

00:13:25.080 Do

00:13:25.580 That

00:13:26.360 Not

00:13:27.020 Me

00:13:27.820 I

00:13:28.700 Not

00:13:29.100 Like

00:13:29.780 That

00:13:30.500 I

00:13:30.800 Couldn't

00:13:31.300 Sacrifice

00:13:32.380 Anything

00:13:33.240 At

00:13:33.720 All

00:13:34.200 To

00:13:34.760 Love

00:13:35.560 You

00:13:41.040 Have

00:13:41.200 Blasphemous

00:13:41.840 Rumors

00:13:42.440 That

00:13:43.020 Is 0.88

00:13:43.480 Coming

00:13:44.380 Out

00:13:44.860 Of

00:13:45.000 A

00:13:45.300 Loss

00:13:46.000 Of

00:13:46.260 Faith

00:13:47.040 And

00:13:48.240 You

00:13:48.860 Have

00:13:49.060 You

00:13:49.260 Know

00:13:49.340 If

00:13:49.580 You

00:13:49.760 Want

00:13:50.160 Where

00:13:50.640 It's

00:13:51.160 Like

00:13:51.420 Exercise

00:13:52.000 Your

00:13:52.380 Basic

00:13:52.800 Right

00:13:53.140 We're

00:13:53.380 Leaving

00:13:53.760 The

00:13:54.000 Factory

00:13:54.400 And

00:13:54.680 We're

00:13:54.840 Partying

00:13:55.440 Which

00:13:56.440 Is 0.88

00:13:56.580 Really

00:13:56.900 The

00:13:57.120 Same

00:13:57.320 Sentiment

00:13:57.800 And

00:13:58.000 Something

00:13:58.300 To

00:13:58.520 Do

00:13:58.800 Which

00:13:59.620 Is 0.88

00:13:59.780 You

00:13:59.960 You're

00:14:02.100 Feeling

00:14:02.460 The

00:14:02.660 Boredom

00:14:03.060 Too

00:14:03.360 I'm

00:14:03.640 Gladly

00:14:04.100 To

00:14:04.240 Go

00:14:04.420 With

00:14:04.660 You

00:14:04.880 I'll

00:14:05.160 Put

00:14:05.360 Your

00:14:05.520 Leather

00:14:05.800 Boots

00:14:06.120 On

00:14:06.460 I'll

00:14:06.660 Put

00:14:06.800 Your

00:14:06.940 Pretty

00:14:07.240 Dress

00:14:07.700 Which

00:14:08.960 Gets

00:14:09.280 It

00:14:09.460 And

00:14:09.720 Master

00:14:10.160 And

00:14:10.340 Servant

00:14:10.640 Obviously

00:14:11.160 It's

00:14:11.580 Just

00:14:11.740 It's

00:14:12.160 A

00:14:12.340 Song

00:14:12.660 About

00:14:12.940 Sadomasochism

00:14:13.800 So

00:14:14.000 It

00:14:14.920 I

00:14:15.920 Think

00:14:16.300 The

00:14:16.620 The

00:14:16.880 The

00:14:17.180 Album

00:14:17.540 Is 0.88

00:14:17.700 Perfect

00:14:18.080 Because

00:14:18.420 It

00:14:18.640 Does

00:14:18.860 Show

00:14:19.200 Innocence

00:14:20.200 But

00:14:21.420 Then

00:14:21.680 You

00:14:22.220 Could

00:14:22.360 Also

00:14:22.720 Imagine

00:14:23.320 You

00:14:24.380 Know

00:14:24.500 The

00:14:24.700 Marriage

00:14:25.120 Of

00:14:25.280 These

00:14:25.440 Two

00:14:26.060 Nineteen

00:14:27.620 Year

00:14:27.820 Olds

00:14:28.200 Let's

00:14:28.500 Say

00:14:28.840 Who

00:14:29.580 Are

00:14:29.720 Almost

00:14:29.940 Doing

00:14:30.320 It

00:14:30.760 To

00:14:31.400 Please

00:14:31.720 Their

00:14:31.920 Parents

00:14:32.560 Or

00:14:32.880 Because

00:14:33.360 They

00:14:34.480 Don't

00:14:34.680 Know

00:14:34.880 Any

00:14:35.060 Better

00:14:35.340 And

00:14:35.520 They're

00:14:35.660 Kind

00:14:35.860 Of

00:14:35.940 In

00:14:36.080 Love

00:14:36.520 And

00:14:37.700 That

00:14:39.380 Innocence

00:14:40.000 Is 0.88

00:14:40.200 Gonna

00:14:40.380 Start

00:14:41.800 Shattering

00:14:42.380 Pretty

00:14:42.760 Soon

00:14:43.200 So

00:14:44.840 I

00:14:45.100 Mean

00:14:45.240 It

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00:19:15.960 There's actually a mention in Just Can't Get Enough, which is this really good biography.

00:19:26.240 This, you know, another notorious Berlin figure.

00:19:30.160 This is just kind of about the milieu that they're around.

00:19:32.920 Christiana F.

00:20:05.560 So that's this is again, they go back to Hansa Studios.

00:20:11.520 Martin is living there.

00:20:13.180 Dave Gahan is apparently bought the biggest house in Basildon.

00:20:16.420 So he's I think Dave is having much less of a an impact on the band.

00:20:23.480 He's certainly not writing music.

00:20:26.960 And I don't know the degree to which he's really influencing the sound.

00:20:33.920 But as Simon Spence says, in truth, his voice was the sound of the band.

00:20:41.880 So I do, you know, he remains that, you know, indispensable component of it all.

00:20:49.620 So do you want to talk about some of the songs?

00:20:52.220 I mean, what which one jumps out to you?

00:20:56.300 Immediately, the first song that really jumped out at me was If You Want.

00:21:03.900 It was just there was something about that banging kick drum and that bone out bone out and kind of echoing that.

00:21:14.320 That's definitely the first one that I was like, what the hell is this?

00:21:18.360 This is it wasn't like anything I've ever heard before or since, really.

00:21:23.280 And it was just dark.

00:21:25.120 And but it was a party song at the same time.

00:21:27.260 In a lot of ways, that and Something to Do are very much like these Black Celebration songs before Black Celebration.

00:21:34.860 Working weeks come to its end Party time is here again

00:21:49.320 Everyone can come if they want to

00:21:57.500 You know, it was that song.

00:22:13.260 It was Blasphemous Rumors and and of course, People Are People and Master and Servant.

00:22:19.020 Those were the first that kind of popped out to me, but it really didn't like stick in my head.

00:22:24.440 I didn't get the other songs to stick in my head until maybe like a couple weeks listening.

00:22:28.660 But then I just really devoured it.

00:22:32.220 I mean, this was like the first out Depeche album that I was like, this is amazing from front to back.

00:22:38.640 I just get enough of it.

00:22:40.900 Well, there is this weird thing because it's, you know, it's like with Construction Time, again,

00:22:46.680 they were aggressively trying to be political.

00:22:50.760 You know, they they were singing about, you know, nuclear war and environmental degradation and and so on and working in a factory and some kind of I don't know, a bit kind of a muddled version of communist utopia or something.

00:23:14.560 Here, it's this weird theme that I've never thought of it before.

00:23:21.080 But I mean, if the, you know, if you want, it's, you know, party time is here again.

00:23:28.940 And it's this it's almost like he's making an announcement that it's 5 p.m.

00:23:35.320 You no longer have to work at the jackhammer and party time is here again.

00:23:39.660 I mean, it's it's weird in many ways, but it's like this leaving the factory to party and they are going to be the act that is offering music for the masses, so to speak.

00:23:57.840 It's just a weird sentiment.

00:23:59.740 I don't know if I and it's strange, like two songs, something to do.

00:24:02.900 And if you want to have that same image, I'm going crazy with boredom, come with me and tell me gray sky over a black town. 0.95

00:24:12.280 I can feel depression all around.

00:24:14.440 You've got your leather boots on.

00:24:16.180 I can't stand another drink.

00:24:18.300 It's surprising this town doesn't sink.

00:24:21.020 Your pretty dress is oil stained from the from working too hard for too little.

00:24:25.580 You've got your leather boots on.

00:24:27.060 And then he wants to put the this weird like moving from an industrial town into party time, which I guess it's it's almost like their own trajectory into, you know, we're going to create pop music out of this.

00:24:47.060 I'm going crazy with boredom, come with me, tell me, is there something to do, is there something to do, is there something to do, is there something to do?

00:25:07.700 Definitely.

00:25:12.400 And I think one of the interesting things with, if you want, is that the melody is kind of, the vocal melody is kind of Eastern sounding.

00:25:21.420 It's like this Phrygian, which is like the darkest of the minor modes.

00:25:25.700 I mean, until you get to like a diminished mode, but that is like, and then it goes back like a fourth.

00:25:39.840 If I have this correct, I think it's from B flat minor to F minor, but in this basically B flat Phrygian to F Phrygian, if that makes sense.

00:25:48.200 It's this very dark and like I said, Eastern kind of sound.

00:25:52.760 And it really, that to me is why I wish Alan would have wrote more songs, because that song is just, it's so weird.

00:26:04.280 It's literally like foreign sounding, you know, it's very, to me, very Eastern sounding, that melody.

00:26:10.960 Yeah, I mean, it does kind of sound like this working class, communist-ish party time, which kind of gets into the fact that this was the first tour where they would cross the Iron Curtain.

00:26:30.840 And that would be in Budapest.

00:26:33.460 Now, I don't want to jump ahead if you have something else to say.

00:26:36.400 No, no, keep going.

00:26:37.180 But the first city behind the Iron Curtain they would play in is July 23rd, 1985, and they would play in Budapest and then Warsaw after the fans there were so devoted that they welcomed Martin Gore by singing.

00:26:57.780 It was his birthday, and they had welcomed him out to Happy Birthday.

00:27:03.860 And he was just so like flabbergasted and impressed.

00:27:06.760 Like, how the hell do these people know?

00:27:09.480 You know, they're under the thumb, you know, and they're in a basically secluded world.

00:27:16.420 And it actually, from what I understand, it actually cost them to go there, which is interesting.

00:27:21.800 And I feel like you could go on-

00:27:24.360 Oh, it cost Depeche Mode money to do it, but they did it anyway, is what you're saying?

00:27:27.860 Yes, yes.

00:27:28.760 Interesting.

00:27:29.040 That's what Fletch said.

00:27:30.640 And so I'm sure you could go off on this.

00:27:33.340 I think, now Hungary is not a Slavic country, but it's like, what is this fascination between or among like Slavs or Eastern Europe in general and Depeche Mode?

00:27:46.580 I mean, I'm sure you have some answers or opinions, but I'd love to hear them.

00:27:54.380 Well, yeah, and it's not just Slavs, it's also Germans.

00:27:58.860 I mean, they were, Martin Gore is living in Germany, dating a German, and they're most popular in Germany.

00:28:06.440 And they continue to have this fan base there that is passionate.

00:28:11.180 Yeah, as you go to Central Europe and then to Eastern Europe, I don't have an answer without resorting to cliches like a German soul or a Russian soul or something.

00:28:27.820 There's definitely, I mean, you can, I think it's interesting that Depeche Mode is now popular in America.

00:28:34.780 They have a huge fan base, but they weren't even touring in America early on there.

00:28:40.520 They jokingly say that they're least popular in their hometown.

00:28:44.340 There's something about the hard aesthetic minor key that I think appeals to anyone who's lived in under socialism or in the sense of the communist bloc or is kind of in the midst of it in terms of Germany.

00:29:07.080 And there's also that German desire for progression and kind of like development, moving through something into something else.

00:29:18.920 And it's not an escapist fantasy music.

00:29:24.260 It's not, you know, somebody aside, it's not music about, you know, finding love and kind of finding this pure love that's outside of the world and so on like that.

00:29:38.500 It's about kind of diving in to the experience and reality of living in the 20th century.

00:29:48.980 I, you know, I, I, I, that's the best I can do.

00:29:53.020 I can't quite explain it without cliches.

00:29:55.100 I also think with German music, I mean, there's a, there's obviously a deeper German tradition of music than there is in Great Britain.

00:30:05.620 I mean, you know, no, you know, no fault to Great Britain, of course, but in, from the German world springs, you know, Mozart, Beethoven, Haydn, Wagner, et cetera, et cetera.

00:30:21.760 And, uh, there's just less of a tradition or less glorious classical music from Great Britain.

00:30:29.840 It just is what it is.

00:30:30.940 I don't know if the precision of synthesized music where you're not hearing a strummed guitar and that has been taken away and you're more able to listen to actual music development and that these people just have a better ear for that.

00:30:56.100 I, I, I might suggest that, I guess, but I can't, I can't quite explain it.

00:31:01.960 I mean, I think probably the best is the best answer is probably that there is a general vibe in Central and Eastern Europe that wants to get away from poppy love songs and wants to dive into industrial music.

00:31:19.680 Yeah, that's about what I would expect.

00:31:23.480 You know, every time I see like an article or something about what is the connection between Eastern Europe and Depeche Mode, I think of this meme, it's been, you know, around Twitter and stuff, but it's got like Shakespeare.

00:31:37.860 And, uh, he says, uh, English literature, I will die for honor and it'll say American literature, I will die for freedom.

00:31:46.480 And it's got a picture of Dostoevsky and it says Russian literature, I will die.

00:31:50.440 But there is, there is that connection.

00:31:54.640 I think that Depeche does have, it's, it's not totally a pessimistic band as Martin has said before, he does offer light at the end of the tunnel or tries to, but you know, there's something there with a song like Blasphemous Rumors.

00:32:09.840 That is not a happy ending song in any way, shape or form.

00:32:14.440 Um, and I just, I do get the sense.

00:32:17.040 And I think actually Ed Dutton has pointed this out is that they kind of do have this, um, penchant for, or this kind of like death drive.

00:32:28.280 Courageous would be a nice way of saying it.

00:32:30.080 Foolhardy might be a more accurate way of, of talking about slobs. 0.97

00:32:34.660 And there's also kind of a goofiness about that. 0.93

00:32:37.500 And I, you could say that about white people in general, that's fine. 0.94

00:32:40.020 But I really do think there is some kind of, uh, awkwardness to, uh, to slobs in, in, in general, but I, I really don't see it any other, uh, other way for, for, uh, Depeche and the connection between Depeche and Russia, especially they were, they were popular in. 0.99

00:32:58.040 Well, yeah, I mean, look, as we talked about the last time, they're, they're developing into a fascist aesthetic.

00:33:04.600 And not necessarily actual fascist politics, but, and, and it's almost a visual aesthetic, maybe before it's a oral aesthetic, which is very interesting for a band.

00:33:24.060 But yeah, I mean, it, that, it, it resonates right then and there with the propaganda of Germany.

00:33:34.900 I mean, obviously you, he was living in West Berlin, Martin Gore, that is, but it's all around you.

00:33:41.220 There's actually a little anecdote that I read of, they were driving the Autobahn, um, into Berlin and they, cause Berlin was a surrounded city, of course, or West Berlin was a surrounded city.

00:33:52.640 And they got off on an exit and they saw all these, like, like tenant homes that had no windows or something and red stars everywhere.

00:34:02.420 And they kind of quickly got back into their car.

00:34:05.080 Uh, it's kind of funny.

00:34:06.440 I mean, it's, it's a weird, it's just a weird place in many ways.

00:34:10.100 I mean, I remember visiting Berlin many years ago now, uh, must be like 15 or 17 and walking through no man's land and, um, you, these houses, maybe they'd been reclaimed since I was there, but they weren't reclaimed at the time.

00:34:28.080 And you can walk around, nature's taken over, you can see bullet holes in houses, you can easily find old, uh, you know, Soviet or, or, or, you know, day to air posters.

00:34:42.040 And it's, yeah, I mean, that, that's what they're going for and that's who they're, whom they're appealing to.

00:34:49.380 So definitely, if I was a more conspiratorially minded, I'd say that like MI6 sent them over to demoralize, uh, the Soviet union or something like that.

00:35:02.740 Demoralize more like, well, yeah, that's yeah.

00:35:05.700 That's maybe my dad.

00:35:06.700 I would think they were funded by the Soviet union turned innocent Americans against God or something. 0.67

00:35:13.440 I mean, I don't think actually think that, but that, um, makes more sense.

00:35:19.380 They are more than just, uh, a band for us.

00:35:26.640 Of course, they don't know us in person, but, uh, not only their lyrics and music are close to us, uh, as a people, the Depeche Mode are very close to our souls.

00:35:39.720 And we will always, uh, uh, be waiting for them.

00:35:44.100 We will support them.

00:35:46.980 We will stay devoted.

00:35:49.380 We will stay devoted.

00:35:51.640 We'll be available.

00:35:53.720 We will stay devoted.

00:35:54.780 We will stay devoted.

00:35:56.300 We will stay devoted.

00:35:57.640 We will stay devoted in person.

00:35:58.380 We will stay devoted.

00:35:58.700 We will stay devoted for the sentencing.

00:35:59.820 We will stay devoted.

00:36:00.000 We do stay devoted.

00:36:00.780 We will stay devoted.

00:36:01.660 We will stay devoted.

00:36:02.560 We will stay devoted.

00:36:03.060 And we'll stay devoted.

00:36:03.700 We will stay devoted.

00:36:04.480 Well, since we've been wonderful to our sentencing agenda to the dinner field.

00:36:07.500 We would touch shower and cook.

00:36:17.320 And we'll stay devoted in a secствion.

00:36:18.340 We will all stay devoted.

00:36:19.200 blasphemous rumors girl of 16 whole life ahead of her slashed her wrist bored with life didn't 0.96

00:36:39.440 succeed thank the lord for small mercies fighting back the tear tears mother reads the note again

00:36:46.480 so it's her suicide note 16 candles burning in her mind she takes the blame it's always the same

00:36:52.400 she goes down on her knees and prays girl of 18 fell in love with everything found new life in

00:36:59.300 jesus christ hit by a car ended up on a life support machine that's where that sound comes from

00:37:07.300 summer's day as she passed away birds were singing in the summer sky then came the rain and once again

00:37:13.900 a tear fell from her mother's eyes and you know so you have that where you have these you know

00:37:20.760 outside sounds like the life support machine and this like kind of childlike

00:37:25.980 don't don't don't don't don't don't and it's just it's a very creepy vibe and then you have

00:37:37.480 what i i think they're gonna pursue a lot in music for the masses you have this anthem

00:37:44.840 like song where it's and it's in a major hit

00:37:48.580 and it's you know i don't want to start any blasphemous rumors but i think that god's got a

00:38:06.340 six sense of humor

00:38:07.620 you can just hear them performing that in an arena and everyone's

00:38:36.240 singing along as is almost like a mantra um or or anthem and i don't think they really

00:38:46.300 had the confidence to do something like that before this album um people are people is very

00:38:53.320 similar it has an anthem mantra i i don't know of a better word than that and so they're they're

00:39:01.700 starting to create music for the masses but then they're doing it in their own way

00:39:06.340 and they're not creating these patriotic anthems they're they're creating this it's not even

00:39:11.740 necessarily saying that there's no god blasphemous rumors that is it's saying that there is a god and

00:39:19.280 he has a sixth sense of humor and this girl who you know got bored with life which is also a kind

00:39:27.500 of theme in this boredom and she just you know committed suicide at 16 but she survived and then

00:39:33.520 she actually puts her faith in christ and that's when god takes her and there there is something like

00:39:40.320 a sixth sense of humor it's kind of like now that i've got you and i know you can be saved now it's time

00:39:46.440 to take you look we're we're talking about pop music and stuff like that it's it's you know it's

00:39:52.660 not philosophy or t.s elliot but i i i think it's actually a really profound sentiment and it probably

00:40:02.400 also does get to the mentality of a lot of kids living in the 80s as well that wasn't a mentality that

00:40:13.600 wasn't being voiced by most every other band on the radio yeah i think it gets at the mentality of

00:40:21.660 even people today i mean you can have there's no reason that you should be bored because you have a

00:40:28.280 cell phone that has like everything in it and commands your attention and then people still find

00:40:33.820 themselves uh even more bored and even more suicidal than ever and like that in the song that's why

00:40:40.680 she takes her life or tries to rather is she's bored and i think that's that in itself is

00:40:48.020 interesting and he's not like you said he's not it's not like necessarily atheism it's just

00:40:54.000 martin saying in the chorus like sometimes i feel alone like you know there's no god no moral he's like

00:41:01.840 actually questioning if there's a moral god you know like why which everybody has had at some point

00:41:08.920 in their life that's like you know new atheism starting point in a lot of ways is there almost

00:41:15.140 a sadistic god yes which would is a more interesting uh uh question but yeah and then her mom all she can 1.00

00:41:24.120 do is pray to the same god that allowed this or maybe like you said even caused this thing to uh to

00:41:32.180 happen and it's just i find that the lyrics of this song incredibly relatable and you had mentioned

00:41:40.180 with that kind of music box kind of do do do do do do do do do do do that is that's like the icing on

00:41:50.760 the cake i mean that's so creepy because it you hear the innocence and the youth and uh the childishness

00:41:57.640 of it all but i think also uh that it kind of signals disorder in the opening the introduction

00:42:05.280 when you just hear the pots and pans kind of hit the ground and you can hear the top spinning on the

00:42:10.720 ground it just sounds like disorder and it's uh in my opinion it's one of their best tracks they've ever

00:42:19.340 made

00:42:19.940 on a life support machine

00:42:26.340 on summer's day as she passed away birds were singing in the summer sky there came the rain

00:42:51.460 yeah i love this one yeah so and this is from strept which is another book uh andy fletcher i

00:43:06.540 turned away from religion because i found i was leading a really boring life i wanted to live life

00:43:13.620 to the full but i was trapped and i thought if i die tomorrow that'll be it it's a shame that

00:43:18.620 christianity is perverted and hyped so much uh because it does have something to offer so again

00:43:25.000 they're not fully turning away from it uh voices were raised in concern over the song's supposed

00:43:31.040 blasphemy having taken martin gore's hook line at face value one local south end clergyman said

00:43:37.360 uh if we can say god so loved the world that he sent his only son if he did that he cannot have a

00:43:44.860 sixth sense of humor so this song it was never banned or anything like that but they actually

00:43:51.400 worried about it being banned and uh andy fletcher said that when he first heard it he found it

00:43:57.260 offensive and it was just going too far which also is one more indication of andy fletcher

00:44:05.200 riding sidecar on this entire project i'm offended by this song well it's funny is like there's a sense

00:44:15.120 in which i can sympathize with what he said about turning away from religion a lot of people can

00:44:20.180 there's still a part where i i'm certainly no trad calf but i do kind of get a little like uh that's

00:44:27.520 kind of in bad taste there is it's just so deep in uh our i won't say hours maybe but in a lot of

00:44:34.640 people's psyches is this yeah that's kind of a bad look if you make fun of the priest or you make fun

00:44:40.320 of the church or you know and make fun of christ yeah that's you know there's there is something

00:44:45.180 you know it's not like i don't do it or anything but there is something where you kind of feel like

00:44:49.980 oh i'm a little i feel a little bit of guilt for doing this which i think you know martin feels uh

00:44:55.920 in general just when he's writing songs i think that's his uh perspective is like the guilt-ridden

00:45:01.760 christian who constantly finds himself in these situations where he's testing his conscience

00:45:08.360 yeah going to master and servant um so let me read a little bit from simon spence here because

00:45:19.180 this is an interesting anecdote that i there were only kind of hints at it that i got in

00:45:24.100 reading stripped but um how to unravel the enigma that is martin gore let's start at skin to the

00:45:32.460 ultra trendy underground fetish club he'd started to frequent in london it was here that he indulged

00:45:38.760 his penchant for bondage harnesses leather rubber and handcuffs record mirror writer and soon to be 0.68

00:45:45.240 editor betty page was one of the leading ladies at skin to a rear view image of her and a black lace 0.99

00:45:52.560 dress made for the scenes lead uh made by the scenes lead designer daniel james became an iconic

00:45:58.320 fetish image when martin got quite heavily into the rubber and leather thing it was like oh blimey

00:46:05.260 who'd have thought you'd have been doing this when i first met you she recalled it wasn't something he

00:46:11.040 suddenly did it was a gradual development but it was a but it was a lot to do with the prevailing mood

00:46:17.700 gore was into leather for the image strong uh magnetic attractive powerful and the feel

00:46:24.300 he admitted his attraction to bondage gear and women's clothes skirts and suspenders

00:46:29.880 stemmed in part from a desire to disorient people he'd always hated macho rock and roll his new look

00:46:36.640 was totally anti-macho i got a feeling martin was just using the imagery but got into it on a deeper

00:46:44.380 level page said i remember his leather skirt uh a lot of other people were doing that kind of

00:46:50.360 experimentation as well it was all about exploring your sexuality and being a bit exhibitionist and

00:46:55.620 being allowed to be like that without being condemned for it uh and so on but so this is some underground

00:47:02.140 club it was small it wasn't even necessarily like a sex club it was more of this kind of exhibitionism

00:47:12.200 this is the the whole point was to make it cool said mitchell this is a one of the writers um who is

00:47:19.620 still involved in the fetish scene as editor of skin two magazines who became a magazine and the

00:47:25.040 fetishistas.com skin two was the bastard child of the blitz new romantic scene and the earlier punk scene

00:47:32.020 so again it gets to my general point which there's a there's an almost visual aesthetic that martin gore finds

00:47:43.700 attractive and interesting and compelling and then he is almost writing music to fit that yeah i mean that

00:47:54.380 that doesn't really surprise me as far as him doing it firstly for an image and then sort of going

00:48:01.600 deeper i do know that a lot of the band members like alan and dave and fletch were like okay dude this is

00:48:09.500 going a little bit too far now man like you know you're you're wearing actual tights and you know

00:48:15.660 an actual like leather dress or something like yeah and most strange of all he was heterosexual 0.51

00:48:20.800 it's a lot it's a lot it's a lot it's a lot it's a lot it's a lot

00:48:27.620 it's

00:48:28.200 like this

00:48:28.640 This is a new game, like a play you see

00:48:54.440 A game without reality

00:48:57.840 You treat me like a dog, get me down on my knees

00:49:02.140 We call it Master and Servant

00:49:06.240 We call it Master and Servant

00:49:10.060 There's a new game we like to play, you see

00:49:15.080 A game with added reality

00:49:16.580 You treat me like a dog, get me down on my knees

00:49:18.760 We call it Master and Servant

00:49:20.360 We call it Master and Servant

00:49:21.740 It's a lot like life

00:49:22.960 This play between the sheets

00:49:24.920 With you on top and me underneath

00:49:26.480 Forget all about equality

00:49:28.200 Let's play Master and Servant

00:49:29.680 I mean, it also

00:49:30.900 The song reminds me a lot of Everything Counts as well

00:49:34.920 Where, you know, I think I mentioned this

00:49:37.780 When we talked about Construction Time again

00:49:39.620 Where on one level

00:49:42.020 It's an anti-capitalist song

00:49:44.560 But then on another level

00:49:47.140 You could almost imagine that song

00:49:49.460 As the soundtrack to some 80s movie

00:49:53.880 Like Wall Street or something

00:49:55.920 Like, there's a way that you're indulging

00:49:58.680 In the hardcore

00:50:01.660 Dangerous, sadomasochistic quality

00:50:06.620 Of that world

00:50:09.400 While criticizing it

00:50:11.140 And so it's not ultimately criticizing it at all

00:50:14.000 If you understand

00:50:15.660 This idea of everything counts in large amounts

00:50:19.000 And, you know, the graph on the wall

00:50:21.540 Tells the story of it all

00:50:23.160 Like this

00:50:23.620 It's like

00:50:24.860 It kind of reminds me of the

00:50:26.520 Line that there's never been an anti-war movie

00:50:30.260 Because whenever you depict war

00:50:32.580 You're in a way indulging in it

00:50:35.800 And people get excited about it

00:50:37.840 So even movies like Platoon

00:50:39.820 Or Full Metal Jacket

00:50:41.240 Can't help themselves

00:50:43.740 But glorify the band of brothers

00:50:47.400 And heroism aspect of it

00:50:50.000 Even though both of those films

00:50:52.000 Are objectively anti-war

00:50:55.100 And I feel like this is almost

00:50:58.340 What he's getting at

00:50:59.160 Like it's

00:51:00.060 You know, he's like

00:51:01.980 Criticizing capitalism

00:51:04.820 Or something through the song

00:51:06.660 But by doing that

00:51:10.760 You know, he obviously loves it

00:51:13.200 Domination's the name of the game

00:51:14.660 And better in life

00:51:15.480 They're both just the same

00:51:16.480 Except in one you're fulfilled

00:51:17.700 At the end of the day

00:51:18.600 It's a lot like life

00:51:20.560 And that's what's appealing

00:51:21.500 If you despise that throwaway feeling

00:51:24.080 From disposable fun

00:51:26.140 Then this is the one

00:51:27.160 So it's all of that

00:51:29.580 You know, cheap love songs

00:51:31.540 And

00:51:32.520 Conventional romance

00:51:36.560 You know, the married couple

00:51:37.940 And the album cover

00:51:38.980 If you ultimately despise that

00:51:41.280 Then you have to dive into

00:51:43.580 You know, leather and mask

00:51:46.240 And S&M

00:51:47.400 And stuff like that

00:51:48.900 But that's the scent of it

00:51:50.320 It's kind of

00:51:51.320 Equivocal

00:51:52.820 It's both glorifying it

00:51:54.920 Finding authenticity in it

00:51:56.880 And

00:51:57.480 Criticizing it

00:51:59.240 At the same time

00:52:00.180 Yeah, I think there's

00:52:01.340 A slightly

00:52:02.360 Like kind of fashy

00:52:03.940 Tone to it

00:52:06.060 With

00:52:06.260 Forget all about

00:52:08.120 Forget all about equality

00:52:08.840 Yeah

00:52:09.540 And it does seem like a

00:52:11.500 It seems like a repudiation

00:52:13.140 Of somebody

00:52:14.160 In so far as

00:52:15.180 It's

00:52:16.000 This is about lust

00:52:17.200 Instead of

00:52:18.080 You know

00:52:18.600 We just love each other

00:52:19.720 And I want to share my

00:52:20.540 Most intimate thoughts with you

00:52:21.920 It seems like

00:52:23.300 You know

00:52:23.840 Very surface level

00:52:25.180 Yeah, your take

00:52:26.360 Is interesting

00:52:27.720 About the

00:52:28.480 The sort of

00:52:29.780 Capitalistic element

00:52:30.960 I hadn't

00:52:31.640 Hadn't really thought of that

00:52:32.760 I was just thinking

00:52:34.020 Of the

00:52:34.600 The sexual

00:52:36.280 Kind of

00:52:36.840 Or power

00:52:37.700 Aspect

00:52:38.800 You know

00:52:39.680 Yeah, well

00:52:40.640 You know

00:52:41.000 These kinds of 0.96

00:52:41.820 Sex dungeons 0.60

00:52:42.440 Are very popular

00:52:43.300 You know

00:52:44.160 In Manhattan

00:52:45.300 For Wall Street people

00:52:46.680 And

00:52:47.040 I

00:52:48.260 I don't

00:52:49.180 Think it's

00:52:49.800 Terribly surprising

00:52:51.060 But

00:53:09.800 Yeah

00:53:10.240 I mean

00:53:10.580 Let's talk about

00:53:11.120 People are people

00:53:11.820 Because I

00:53:12.180 I think I mentioned this

00:53:13.500 Even

00:53:13.980 In our first

00:53:15.280 Podcast

00:53:16.360 About

00:53:17.000 People are good

00:53:19.100 Which is

00:53:19.820 You know

00:53:20.160 Which of course

00:53:21.340 Is saying

00:53:21.800 People are not good

00:53:22.860 This

00:53:24.080 People are people

00:53:25.320 It

00:53:26.340 It

00:53:26.540 It has that

00:53:27.100 Anthem quality

00:53:27.940 That they're

00:53:28.820 Pushing towards

00:53:29.720 You know

00:53:30.740 That I noted before

00:53:31.600 But

00:53:32.060 Also

00:53:32.800 It's coming

00:53:33.760 From a

00:53:34.340 From an odd

00:53:35.460 Perspective

00:53:36.400 So

00:53:37.980 It's

00:53:39.440 A song

00:53:40.160 About racism

00:53:41.140 But it's a song

00:53:41.900 About

00:53:42.200 Not

00:53:43.260 Understanding

00:53:44.060 Racism

00:53:44.740 And so

00:53:46.300 It almost

00:53:47.480 Reminds me

00:53:47.980 Of someone

00:53:48.340 Who's

00:53:48.680 Lived in

00:53:49.580 You know

00:53:50.260 It

00:53:50.600 Almost

00:53:51.200 It

00:53:51.480 Definitely

00:53:52.040 Reminds me

00:53:52.860 Of someone

00:53:53.200 Who's lived

00:53:53.960 In

00:53:54.320 A

00:53:55.400 Suburban

00:53:56.920 Quaint

00:53:58.700 Middle 0.95

00:53:59.540 And lower

00:54:00.080 Middle class 0.80

00:54:01.000 Community

00:54:02.840 Like

00:54:03.380 Basildon

00:54:04.160 And

00:54:05.380 They're

00:54:06.380 Singing

00:54:06.860 About

00:54:07.700 Racism

00:54:08.540 But it's

00:54:09.800 Something that

00:54:10.280 They've never

00:54:10.620 Really experienced

00:54:11.660 Like they

00:54:12.100 They haven't

00:54:13.160 They haven't

00:54:14.960 Been in a

00:54:15.580 Situation

00:54:16.140 That could 0.68

00:54:17.020 Be called

00:54:17.500 A race 0.80

00:54:17.940 War

00:54:18.300 Or something

00:54:19.180 Like that

00:54:19.560 That's

00:54:19.820 Totally

00:54:20.180 Different

00:54:20.600 And so

00:54:21.100 They're

00:54:21.360 They're

00:54:21.960 Singing

00:54:22.280 About it

00:54:22.900 But he's

00:54:23.460 Also

00:54:24.220 Very much

00:54:25.900 Like master

00:54:26.620 And servant

00:54:27.060 He's kind

00:54:27.640 Of

00:54:27.860 Fetishizing

00:54:29.680 That

00:54:30.840 Quality

00:54:32.080 Of it

00:54:32.520 Almost

00:54:32.860 Fetishizing

00:54:33.620 Racism

00:54:34.120 So I mean

00:54:34.480 Let me

00:54:34.760 Read some

00:54:35.280 Of the lyrics

00:54:35.580 So people

00:54:36.240 Are people

00:54:36.760 So why

00:54:37.140 Should it

00:54:37.420 Be

00:54:37.640 You and

00:54:38.660 I should

00:54:39.020 Get along

00:54:39.560 So awfully

00:54:40.240 So again

00:54:41.780 We're all

00:54:42.400 Equal 0.98

00:54:42.860 So why

00:54:43.420 Is it

00:54:43.840 That we

00:54:44.180 Hate each

00:54:44.620 Other

00:54:44.880 So we're

00:54:46.420 Different colors

00:54:47.280 And we're

00:54:47.620 Different creeds

00:54:48.620 And different

00:54:49.020 People of

00:54:49.600 Different needs

00:54:50.240 It's obvious

00:54:50.800 You hate me

00:54:51.420 Though I've

00:54:51.740 Done nothing

00:54:52.140 Wrong

00:54:52.540 I've never

00:54:53.360 Even met

00:54:54.220 You so

00:54:54.660 What could

00:54:54.980 I have

00:54:55.280 Done

00:54:55.560 I can't

00:54:56.780 Understand

00:54:57.300 What makes

00:54:58.080 A man

00:54:58.620 Hate another

00:54:59.460 Man

00:54:59.900 Help me

00:55:00.280 Understand

00:55:00.780 I mean

00:55:01.160 That's actually

00:55:01.800 Good writing

00:55:02.280 So I can't

00:55:02.740 Understand what

00:55:03.220 Makes a man 0.98

00:55:03.740 Like in general

00:55:04.320 What makes

00:55:04.940 A man

00:55:05.200 Hate another

00:55:05.740 Man 0.84

00:55:06.080 So he's

00:55:07.460 Not

00:55:07.780 Understanding

00:55:08.840 Racism

00:55:09.900 But it's

00:55:11.460 Not

00:55:11.900 Again

00:55:12.720 It's almost

00:55:13.600 In that way

00:55:14.280 Kind of

00:55:14.560 Fetishizing

00:55:15.240 It

00:55:15.420 There's

00:55:16.240 Maybe there's

00:55:17.800 An implication

00:55:18.360 That you should

00:55:18.900 Turn away

00:55:19.480 From this

00:55:20.020 Or it doesn't

00:55:20.560 Make sense

00:55:21.120 Why

00:55:21.560 It's all

00:55:22.420 Arbitrary

00:55:23.120 But that's

00:55:23.960 Not

00:55:24.540 Really what

00:55:25.900 He's saying

00:55:26.500 It's

00:55:28.200 You know

00:55:28.920 Delving in

00:55:30.080 To what

00:55:31.300 It would

00:55:31.600 Mean

00:55:32.220 To have

00:55:33.200 Race

00:55:33.540 Hatred

00:55:33.980 Understand

00:55:35.600 What

00:55:36.660 Makes

00:55:37.260 A man

00:55:37.960 Hates

00:55:38.540 Another

00:55:39.060 Man

00:55:39.780 Help me

00:55:40.700 Understand

00:55:41.740 People are

00:55:42.660 People so

00:55:43.520 Why should

00:55:44.260 It be

00:55:45.060 You and I

00:55:46.420 Should get

00:55:47.040 A love

00:55:47.460 So awfully

00:55:48.520 People are

00:55:50.680 People so

00:55:51.540 Why should

00:55:52.260 It be

00:55:53.260 You and I

00:55:54.460 Should get

00:55:55.040 A love

00:55:55.460 So awfully

00:55:56.500 And I

00:56:02.920 Would say

00:56:03.500 That

00:56:03.980 My take

00:56:05.560 On the

00:56:06.240 Song's

00:56:06.880 Lyrics

00:56:07.460 Is that

00:56:08.020 In the

00:56:08.500 If you go

00:56:09.240 From verse

00:56:09.840 To pre-chorus

00:56:10.660 To chorus

00:56:11.260 It kind of

00:56:12.600 Seems like

00:56:13.260 Dave is

00:56:14.320 Singing like

00:56:15.100 The more

00:56:15.640 Nativist

00:56:16.580 Or conservative

00:56:17.420 Type

00:56:17.940 The pre-chorus

00:56:19.460 Martin is

00:56:20.020 Kind of

00:56:20.340 Asking

00:56:21.020 He's kind of

00:56:22.460 Like more

00:56:23.240 Neutral in

00:56:23.800 The middle

00:56:24.120 And then when

00:56:24.460 You get to

00:56:24.720 The chorus

00:56:25.080 It does

00:56:25.480 Seem like

00:56:26.200 The

00:56:27.160 Why should

00:56:28.000 We get

00:56:28.260 Along so

00:56:28.720 Awfully

00:56:29.120 Almost like

00:56:29.960 A spectrum

00:56:31.940 I guess

00:56:32.640 Because Dave's

00:56:34.620 Lyrics

00:56:34.840 It's obvious

00:56:35.480 You hate me

00:56:36.060 Though I've

00:56:36.380 Done nothing

00:56:36.780 Wrong

00:56:37.120 I've never

00:56:37.540 Even met

00:56:38.000 You

00:56:38.180 So what

00:56:38.520 Could I

00:56:38.820 Have done

00:56:39.280 It's

00:56:39.900 Very

00:56:40.540 In my

00:56:41.900 I take

00:56:42.740 That as

00:56:43.160 Kind of

00:56:43.560 Like

00:56:43.880 He's

00:56:45.400 More

00:56:46.700 He's more

00:56:48.200 In conflict

00:56:48.860 He's displaying

00:56:50.020 More of

00:56:50.620 The conflict

00:56:51.520 Between

00:56:51.940 Let's say

00:56:52.580 A native

00:56:52.920 Englishman

00:56:53.480 And

00:56:53.720 Immigrant

00:56:54.840 Pakistani 0.85

00:56:55.380 Or something

00:56:55.780 Like that

00:56:56.360 And I

00:56:57.080 Think

00:56:57.320 Martin's

00:56:58.120 Kind of

00:56:58.880 Pre-chorus

00:56:59.480 Is just

00:57:00.140 Like okay

00:57:00.580 Well let's

00:57:01.000 Just get to

00:57:01.780 The bottom

00:57:02.140 Is what

00:57:02.580 Is it

00:57:02.900 That makes

00:57:03.300 Another man

00:57:03.820 Hate another

00:57:04.240 Man

00:57:04.500 And then

00:57:05.340 Basically the

00:57:06.300 Chorus just 0.99

00:57:06.740 Saying screw

00:57:07.580 It let's

00:57:07.860 Just all

00:57:08.140 Get along

00:57:08.660 People are

00:57:09.120 People so

00:57:09.560 Why should it

00:57:10.000 Be you and

00:57:10.400 I should get

00:57:10.760 Along so

00:57:11.160 Awfully

00:57:11.540 Yeah that's

00:57:12.680 That was my

00:57:13.460 Sort of

00:57:14.240 Take on it

00:57:15.220 You know

00:57:15.460 It honestly

00:57:16.200 Felt like

00:57:17.160 The

00:57:19.060 A struggle

00:57:20.060 Session

00:57:20.540 That yourself

00:57:22.320 And I'm not

00:57:23.160 Sure who the

00:57:23.520 Other guy was

00:57:24.020 But yourself

00:57:24.560 And Charles

00:57:25.740 Barkley

00:57:26.260 Had it

00:57:26.880 It was

00:57:27.220 I mean

00:57:27.980 I couldn't

00:57:28.620 Help but 0.92

00:57:29.080 Think of that

00:57:30.020 Interview

00:57:30.440 Yeah

00:57:33.380 It was

00:57:35.600 Just

00:57:35.860 No one

00:57:37.040 Is 0.88

00:57:37.300 We're just

00:57:37.980 Really not

00:57:38.680 Seeing eye

00:57:39.200 To eye

00:57:39.520 I mean

00:57:39.900 We're just

00:57:40.500 Like you

00:57:42.140 Know

00:57:42.380 North and

00:57:43.620 North magnet

00:57:44.240 Or something

00:57:44.640 Like that

00:57:45.000 We're just

00:57:45.440 Repelling each

00:57:46.840 Other and

00:57:47.880 Literally on

00:57:49.120 Different levels

00:57:49.740 Of communication

00:57:51.020 But yeah

00:57:52.760 I definitely

00:57:55.280 Felt that

00:57:55.940 I remember

00:57:56.780 When I was

00:57:57.140 Talking to

00:57:57.580 Charles Barkley

00:57:58.280 And I was

00:57:59.360 Just talking

00:57:59.700 About power

00:58:00.280 And I was

00:58:00.580 Like it was

00:58:00.940 Why I admired

00:58:01.700 You so much

00:58:02.540 Is that you

00:58:03.140 You know

00:58:03.260 You weren't

00:58:03.880 Even that

00:58:04.280 Tall

00:58:04.860 And you

00:58:05.160 Were the

00:58:05.360 Best rebounder

00:58:06.420 And you

00:58:07.300 You willed

00:58:08.760 Yourself

00:58:09.340 Into this

00:58:10.020 Great athlete

00:58:11.580 You weren't

00:58:11.960 Even beyond

00:58:12.940 Your natural

00:58:14.320 Gifts

00:58:14.920 And you know

00:58:15.760 It's like

00:58:16.060 That's what

00:58:17.120 Really makes

00:58:18.660 Us human

00:58:19.220 What makes

00:58:19.700 Us human

00:58:20.100 Is not

00:58:20.660 Tolerating

00:58:21.840 Everyone

00:58:22.240 Or being

00:58:22.640 Equal 0.98

00:58:23.040 Or something

00:58:23.380 And he was

00:58:23.740 Kind of

00:58:24.020 Resonating

00:58:24.460 With it

00:58:24.760 Maybe that's

00:58:25.240 Why that

00:58:25.560 Got cut

00:58:26.000 Yeah

00:58:26.640 I would

00:58:26.960 I would

00:58:27.360 Have loved

00:58:27.640 To have

00:58:27.900 Seen the

00:58:28.360 Uncut version

00:58:29.200 Because

00:58:29.560 I mean

00:58:30.660 It definitely

00:58:31.060 Looks caught

00:58:31.700 Up if you

00:58:32.200 Watch that

00:58:32.740 Oh you

00:58:33.160 Totally

00:58:33.760 Added it

00:58:34.240 Because it

00:58:34.740 Yeah because

00:58:35.280 It is

00:58:35.860 But yeah

00:58:37.200 I would have

00:58:37.960 Loved to have

00:58:38.540 Seen all the

00:58:39.820 Stuff that

00:58:40.180 Got cut

00:58:40.640 Up

00:58:40.900 Come on and

00:58:56.380 Lay with me

00:58:57.460 Come on

00:58:58.320 And lie to me

00:58:59.600 Tell me you love me

00:59:01.540 Say I'm the only one

00:59:03.820 Come on

00:59:04.760 And lay with me

00:59:06.060 Come on

00:59:06.880 And lie to me

00:59:08.160 Tell me you love me

00:59:10.240 Say I'm the only one

00:59:12.160 Why to me

00:59:13.280 Is also

00:59:14.000 One of my

00:59:16.140 Favorite songs

00:59:17.740 And

00:59:18.760 It's playing with this

00:59:22.120 Lay and lie

00:59:23.980 The two

00:59:24.940 Verbs that

00:59:27.460 No one knows

00:59:28.180 How to conjugate

00:59:28.880 But it's

00:59:30.120 You know

00:59:30.440 Come lay with me

00:59:31.620 Come on

00:59:33.180 And lie to me

00:59:34.200 Tell me that you love me

00:59:35.700 Say that I'm the only one

00:59:36.980 Obviously it's implying

00:59:38.140 That he's not the only one

00:59:39.320 Experiences

00:59:41.340 Have a lasting impression

00:59:42.680 But words

00:59:43.260 When spoken

00:59:43.860 Don't mean a lot

00:59:44.720 Now

00:59:45.120 Belief is the way 0.99

00:59:46.980 The way of the innocent

00:59:48.420 And when I say

00:59:49.780 Innocent

00:59:50.260 I should say

00:59:50.880 Naive

00:59:51.520 So lie to me

00:59:53.120 But do it with

00:59:53.960 Sincerity

00:59:54.680 I think it's

00:59:56.020 Very good

00:59:57.220 Writing

00:59:58.400 And

00:59:59.220 There's also

01:00:01.520 Another element

01:00:02.640 I mean

01:00:03.660 This song

01:00:04.400 Gives us the

01:00:05.260 Title of the album

01:00:06.980 So lie to me

01:00:09.140 Like they do it

01:00:10.000 In the factory

01:00:10.740 Make me think

01:00:12.020 That at the end

01:00:12.740 Of the day

01:00:13.260 Some great reward

01:00:14.540 Will be coming my way

01:00:15.800 So

01:00:17.360 I think it

01:00:18.300 Combines

01:00:19.460 A lot

01:00:21.220 Of

01:00:21.760 Depeche Mode's

01:00:23.220 Themes

01:00:24.540 Or you could even say

01:00:25.620 You know

01:00:26.080 Hang up

01:00:26.700 So it's

01:00:27.720 There's the

01:00:28.800 The sex element

01:00:29.880 There's someone

01:00:30.520 Who doesn't

01:00:32.520 Really

01:00:32.820 Love him

01:00:33.720 But he just

01:00:34.200 Simply wants

01:00:34.940 To hear her

01:00:35.780 Say

01:00:36.140 I love you

01:00:37.820 And she's

01:00:38.960 Lying

01:00:39.640 With

01:00:40.160 She's laying

01:00:40.820 Down with

01:00:41.360 And she's

01:00:41.620 Lying with him

01:00:42.320 But she's also

01:00:42.800 Lying to him

01:00:43.560 Not telling him

01:00:44.140 The truth

01:00:44.640 But then

01:00:45.580 It's also

01:00:46.460 That

01:00:47.460 You know

01:00:48.140 Lie to me

01:00:48.980 Like they do

01:00:49.600 It in the factory

01:00:50.360 This

01:00:51.320 Again

01:00:51.900 Critique of

01:00:52.820 Capitalism

01:00:53.720 Etc

01:00:55.060 But this

01:00:55.880 You know

01:00:56.460 Promise

01:00:57.180 That you're

01:00:57.740 Going to have

01:00:58.160 Some great

01:00:58.760 Reward

01:00:59.240 At the end

01:00:59.680 Of the day

01:01:00.120 That you

01:01:00.460 Ultimately

01:01:00.800 Know is

01:01:01.400 Not coming

01:01:01.920 But you

01:01:02.280 Want to

01:01:02.780 Hear it

01:01:03.380 Anyway

01:01:04.240 So that it

01:01:04.860 Can keep

01:01:05.220 You going

01:01:05.960 I think

01:01:07.420 It's a

01:01:07.680 Great song

01:01:08.280 Yeah I think

01:01:09.180 That those

01:01:09.600 Are some

01:01:09.960 Of the best

01:01:10.380 Lyrics

01:01:10.760 On the album

01:01:11.420 And there's

01:01:11.800 Still that

01:01:12.260 Religious

01:01:12.960 Aspect as

01:01:14.220 Well

01:01:14.460 Belief is

01:01:15.320 The way

01:01:15.640 The way

01:01:15.960 Of the

01:01:16.240 Innocent

01:01:16.920 When I

01:01:17.980 Say innocent

01:01:18.580 I should

01:01:19.360 Say naive

01:01:20.100 And when

01:01:21.240 That line

01:01:22.000 Some great

01:01:22.620 Reward will

01:01:23.200 Be coming

01:01:23.580 Our way

01:01:24.100 It's kind

01:01:24.900 Of like

01:01:25.500 Which I know

01:01:26.260 You're critical

01:01:26.760 On this

01:01:27.260 This way of

01:01:27.840 Thinking

01:01:28.080 Is just

01:01:28.480 One day

01:01:29.300 It'll work

01:01:29.860 Out

01:01:30.040 One day

01:01:30.620 XYZ

01:01:31.200 Will happen

01:01:31.740 One day

01:01:32.240 There will be

01:01:32.720 A day

01:01:33.020 Of reckoning

01:01:33.500 And I

01:01:34.600 Think that

01:01:36.120 Definitely

01:01:37.460 Comes out of

01:01:38.600 The bible

01:01:39.440 This kind

01:01:40.040 Of one day

01:01:41.180 It's almost

01:01:41.700 It's almost

01:01:41.720 The messianism

01:01:43.260 Of it

01:01:43.700 Like

01:01:44.040 One day

01:01:44.960 And then

01:01:45.540 One day

01:01:45.900 There will be

01:01:46.240 A miracle

01:01:46.620 And then

01:01:47.160 One day

01:01:47.620 You know

01:01:48.500 Jesus' 0.89

01:01:50.260 Second coming

01:01:50.960 Or

01:01:51.580 Moshiach's

01:01:52.640 First

01:01:52.920 Whatever

01:01:53.620 Yeah as I've

01:01:55.160 Gotten older

01:01:55.680 You know that

01:01:56.520 Is kind of

01:01:56.980 One of those

01:01:57.500 Ways of thinking

01:01:58.760 That is

01:01:59.160 Just certainly

01:02:00.300 For children

01:02:00.900 So I saw

01:02:27.080 Depeche Mode

01:02:27.740 This past

01:02:28.240 Weekend

01:02:28.760 In Las

01:02:30.000 Vegas

01:02:30.340 And it

01:02:31.420 Was an

01:02:31.640 Amazing

01:02:31.940 Concert

01:02:32.640 I don't

01:02:34.800 Think they

01:02:35.520 Played a

01:02:36.520 Song from

01:02:37.220 This album

01:02:38.260 I have

01:02:40.500 I was going to

01:02:40.860 Mention that

01:02:41.480 Yeah I

01:02:43.540 Have heard them

01:02:44.360 Play Master

01:02:45.240 And Servant

01:02:45.700 Live and

01:02:46.200 Things like

01:02:46.580 That

01:02:46.900 It was a

01:02:48.440 It was an

01:02:48.960 Amazing concert

01:02:49.840 I mean

01:02:50.480 They

01:02:51.320 Really

01:02:52.920 Are

01:02:54.540 Still

01:02:55.260 Going

01:02:55.920 And

01:02:57.280 It wasn't

01:02:58.980 Like

01:02:59.560 You know

01:03:01.100 Depeche Mode

01:03:01.900 In their

01:03:02.480 Later years

01:03:04.100 You know

01:03:04.380 They're over

01:03:04.760 60 now

01:03:05.700 You know

01:03:07.180 Barely

01:03:08.180 Caring

01:03:08.680 And they're 0.97

01:03:09.260 All fat 0.95

01:03:10.240 And sweaty 0.97

01:03:10.720 Like Elvis

01:03:11.460 And they're

01:03:11.820 Just going

01:03:12.180 Through the

01:03:12.460 Motions

01:03:13.020 And the

01:03:13.840 Crowd is

01:03:14.400 Indulging

01:03:14.840 Them

01:03:15.040 They're

01:03:15.360 They're

01:03:15.660 Not like

01:03:16.100 That

01:03:16.380 At all

01:03:16.860 They're

01:03:17.180 Very

01:03:17.540 Serious

01:03:18.080 About

01:03:18.460 Performing

01:03:19.120 Live

01:03:19.520 And they

01:03:21.400 They did

01:03:22.020 A lot

01:03:22.580 From their

01:03:23.200 I'm just

01:03:24.180 Looking at

01:03:24.620 The set

01:03:25.500 List

01:03:25.900 Here

01:03:26.920 But there's

01:03:27.800 Walking

01:03:28.120 In My

01:03:28.520 Shoes

01:03:29.180 They did

01:03:29.800 Everything

01:03:30.120 Counts

01:03:31.000 Precious

01:03:32.100 From the

01:03:32.440 2000s

01:03:33.440 They did

01:03:33.880 Three or

01:03:34.500 Four songs

01:03:35.240 From the

01:03:36.560 New album

01:03:37.200 And they

01:03:39.080 Actually ended

01:03:39.820 With

01:03:40.420 John the

01:03:41.840 Revelator

01:03:42.420 From playing

01:03:44.300 The angel

01:03:44.880 Which is a

01:03:45.600 Great song

01:03:46.320 Which is a

01:03:46.980 Cover

01:03:47.240 I actually

01:03:47.700 Didn't even

01:03:48.080 Know that

01:03:48.400 You were

01:03:48.640 Right

01:03:48.880 You mentioned

01:03:49.260 That

01:03:49.480 And then

01:03:49.880 In the

01:03:50.580 Encore

01:03:51.040 Never Let

01:03:51.540 Me Down

01:03:51.860 Again

01:03:52.080 In Personal

01:03:52.460 Jesus

01:03:52.800 So they

01:03:53.340 Were

01:03:53.500 They were

01:03:53.980 Actually

01:03:54.220 Really

01:03:54.620 Going all

01:03:55.680 Over the

01:03:55.980 Place

01:03:56.240 Like four

01:03:56.800 Decades

01:03:57.420 Of music

01:03:58.260 Actually

01:03:59.540 Dave is

01:04:00.980 As charismatic

01:04:01.960 As he's

01:04:02.920 Ever been

01:04:03.620 I mean

01:04:03.900 He's

01:04:04.260 Prancing

01:04:05.240 Around

01:04:05.600 On stage

01:04:06.220 Doing his

01:04:07.540 Thing

01:04:07.940 Taking a

01:04:09.660 Break

01:04:10.040 Martin

01:04:10.480 Saying

01:04:10.920 Strange

01:04:11.460 Love

01:04:11.920 I

01:04:12.800 Which was

01:04:13.440 Accompanied

01:04:13.920 I think

01:04:14.360 Only by

01:04:14.740 Piano

01:04:15.220 I mean

01:04:15.600 It was

01:04:15.900 Very

01:04:16.300 It was

01:04:17.280 Totally

01:04:17.720 Stripped

01:04:18.160 Down

01:04:18.560 You know

01:04:19.520 You know

01:04:19.800 Taylor Swift

01:04:20.480 On everyone's

01:04:21.200 Mind

01:04:21.600 These days

01:04:22.160 The

01:04:22.400 Times

01:04:23.420 Person

01:04:23.780 Of the

01:04:24.040 Year

01:04:24.220 I don't

01:04:25.200 Know what

01:04:25.660 She did

01:04:26.120 For her

01:04:26.480 Quote

01:04:26.840 Eras

01:04:27.540 Tour

01:04:27.960 You know

01:04:30.040 I think

01:04:30.320 She's had

01:04:30.720 A career

01:04:31.240 That's

01:04:31.720 About

01:04:32.040 15

01:04:33.040 Years

01:04:33.440 Or so

01:04:33.980 Not

01:04:35.620 Nearly

01:04:36.060 As long

01:04:37.260 Or certainly

01:04:37.800 Not as

01:04:38.220 Diverse

01:04:38.560 As

01:04:38.740 Debeche

01:04:39.000 Mode

01:04:39.240 But

01:04:39.540 I

01:04:40.700 Think

01:04:41.100 It would

01:04:41.280 Be

01:04:41.480 Interesting

01:04:42.120 I

01:04:43.480 Don't

01:04:43.680 Know

01:04:43.840 Do a

01:04:44.200 Series

01:04:44.560 Of

01:04:44.800 Four

01:04:45.060 Concerts

01:04:45.780 On

01:04:45.940 Every

01:04:46.160 Decade

01:04:46.720 Or

01:04:48.060 Something

01:04:48.460 Like

01:04:48.860 That

01:04:49.200 I

01:04:49.420 Think

01:04:49.860 There

01:04:50.120 There's

01:04:50.840 A lot

01:04:51.380 There

01:04:52.020 And

01:04:52.980 I'm

01:04:53.280 Glad

01:04:53.600 They

01:04:53.800 Performed

01:04:54.280 All

01:04:54.400 These

01:04:54.560 Songs

01:04:54.860 But

01:04:55.140 I

01:04:55.480 Do

01:04:56.140 Want

01:04:56.540 To

01:04:56.640 Hear

01:04:56.900 Some

01:04:57.220 Deeper

01:04:57.620 Cuts

01:04:58.000 Live

01:04:58.560 Just a

01:05:01.220 Thought

01:05:01.320 Totally

01:05:01.700 Totally

01:05:02.740 Yeah

01:05:03.160 I

01:05:03.900 Remember

01:05:04.440 There

01:05:06.020 Was

01:05:06.320 In one

01:05:07.400 Of

01:05:07.520 Those

01:05:07.720 Depeche

01:05:08.120 Documentaries

01:05:08.860 They

01:05:09.500 Were

01:05:09.640 It

01:05:09.780 Was

01:05:09.880 On

01:05:10.000 The

01:05:10.080 Playing

01:05:10.260 The

01:05:10.400 Angel

01:05:10.580 Tour

01:05:10.860 And

01:05:11.000 They

01:05:11.080 Were

01:05:11.180 Talking

01:05:11.500 About

01:05:11.800 Putting

01:05:12.340 In

01:05:12.680 Lie

01:05:13.120 To

01:05:13.300 Me

01:05:13.460 Into

01:05:13.700 The

01:05:13.920 Set

01:05:14.300 And

01:05:15.000 That's

01:05:15.720 Just

01:05:15.860 A

01:05:16.000 Great

01:05:16.420 Deep

01:05:17.000 Cut

01:05:17.220 Song

01:05:17.520 It's

01:05:17.660 Not

01:05:17.800 Single

01:05:18.320 It's

01:05:18.600 Not

01:05:18.700 Single

01:05:18.940 Worthy

01:05:19.380 But

01:05:19.520 It's

01:05:19.660 Just

01:05:19.800 A

01:05:19.960 Great

01:05:20.360 Song

01:05:20.880 Going

01:05:21.900 Through

01:05:22.280 The

01:05:22.520 Set

01:05:22.800 List

01:05:23.120 It's

01:05:23.680 Just

01:05:23.860 Okay

01:05:24.220 Single

01:05:25.240 Single

01:05:25.720 Single

01:05:26.160 A

01:05:26.460 Side

01:05:26.760 Yeah

01:05:27.080 It

01:05:27.700 Yeah

01:05:28.220 It's

01:05:29.120 It's

01:05:29.580 Great

01:05:29.900 But

01:05:30.480 Yeah

01:05:30.980 It's

01:05:31.500 Definitely

01:05:31.820 Lacking

01:05:32.780 One

01:05:33.560 Of

01:05:33.680 Those

01:05:34.060 Deeper

01:05:35.580 Cuts

01:05:35.840 For

01:05:36.020 Sure

01:05:36.300 Yeah

01:05:37.020 But

01:05:37.600 I

01:05:37.760 Definitely

01:05:38.100 Got

01:05:38.360 The

01:05:38.500 Feeling

01:05:38.720 I

01:05:38.860 Mean

01:05:38.960 They're

01:05:39.140 Standing

01:05:39.760 Before

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01:09:43.100 Saw

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01:09:43.840 Martin

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01:09:49.180 Knew

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01:11:23.820 Would

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01:11:24.400 I

01:11:24.540 Didn't

01:11:24.860 Get

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01:11:25.240 Sense

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01:11:26.120 X

01:11:26.360 Reunion

01:11:26.900 At

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01:11:28.080 Depeche

01:11:28.380 Mode

01:11:28.580 Concert

01:11:28.980 For

01:11:29.120 Whatever

01:11:29.380 Reason

01:11:29.720 Everyone

01:11:30.180 Was

01:11:30.420 Seated

01:11:30.840 maybe it was the fact that in general admission at u2 in the sphere you were just standing and

01:11:36.700 that you know you could go get your 30 cocktail and hang out it was almost like they were forcing

01:11:42.740 you to talk or something everyone was seated at depeche mode but then um the second they played

01:11:49.600 down on the floor everyone's standing and singing along yeah that's awesome i they shouldn't have

01:11:57.700 in my opinion they shouldn't have seats unless you're like handicapped or something like that 1.00

01:12:00.820 on the floor i think yeah seriously it's just it just it's annoying uh yeah and then you always 0.99

01:12:06.000 get that one asshole who's just like sitting and just it's like why the hell are you here i had 0.96

01:12:10.680 actually one guy like that the concert in detroit was like why are you here and then like a few songs 1.00

01:12:15.180 in he just left i don't know what he was expecting yeah i that was a good use of 300 bucks no shit 0.70

01:12:21.360 yeah that uh but there were yeah there were a lot of kids like you know in their 20s and like

01:12:28.800 late teens and i'm just like okay i guess this makes sense because you know 2023s and there's not

01:12:35.440 culturally that much of a difference in music i should say musically uh between now and 10 years

01:12:42.360 ago and so yeah there should be people my age and people younger and yeah it was just all over the

01:12:49.440 place i guess and so what i'm trying to say is that everybody's looking back as we've said before

01:12:54.220 yeah in music but yeah uh okay so just to uh do this kind of standard question what what song on

01:13:05.220 um some great reward was your favorite and least favorite okay um when i was a lot younger i loved

01:13:15.320 master and servant and again i was listening to that on the catching up with depeche mode

01:13:19.900 compilation cd um i would say i would say if you know if i had to choose one i would choose blasphemous

01:13:29.340 rumors i think one of a lot of people's least favorite is uh martin's song it doesn't matter

01:13:36.160 it's kind of like this that like kind of it almost sounds like a song that would be on napoleon

01:13:40.500 dynamite or something like very kind of cheesy 80s sounding but i looked at my plays like last

01:13:46.540 year and it was like in my top five played oh that's funny

01:13:49.580 when i kiss you and you kiss me

01:13:56.060 don't pretend you miss me 0.97

01:14:02.920 the worst kind of disease mind

01:14:09.460 the worst kind of disease is one filled with jealousy

01:14:16.460 if we should meet again don't try to solve the puzzle

01:14:36.460 yeah it doesn't matter if it all shatters i it's a it's a more complicated song but

01:14:46.260 yeah i would say what is your favorite song on the album

01:14:48.680 i have to go with blasphemous rumors too i mean that is just yeah

01:14:54.440 they need to perform at five i mean yeah what are they thinking

01:14:58.080 so again in our kind of always revised and uh you know clearly uh shifting you know ranking

01:15:08.920 what are your thoughts i would have uh songs of faith and devotion at number one

01:15:14.700 violator at two and this one some great reward at number three i love it that much there's not a bad

01:15:20.220 song on there interesting i still think that um i still think i might put black celebration above

01:15:27.560 this and i might put music for the masses above this but i i largely agree i i think black celebration

01:15:34.300 and music for the masses are just like culminations of what they're now confident enough to do

01:15:40.680 i don't want to start any blasphemous rumors but i think that god's got a sick sense of humor

01:16:01.020 so

01:16:01.600 when i doubt i expect

01:16:04.300 if i love

01:16:06.240 it

01:16:07.640 co

01:16:12.360 oh

01:16:21.380 oh

01:16:25.500 The only thing we see, the only love in everything, found alive in Jesus Christ.

01:16:33.200 I think my God ended up on a life's adventure machine.

01:16:55.500 At summer's day, as she passed away, birds were singing in the summer sky.

01:17:03.100 Then came the rain, once again, tither from the mother's mind.

01:17:10.900 I don't want to start any pessimist rumors, but I think that God's got a sick sense of humor.

01:17:19.300 And when I die, I expect to find him laughing.

01:17:27.300 I don't want to start any pessimist rumors, but I think that God's got a sick sense of humor.

01:17:35.300 And when I die, I expect to find him laughing.

01:17:43.300 I don't want to start any pessimist rumors, but I think that God's got a sick sense of humor.

01:17:51.300 And when I die, I expect to find him laughing.

01:17:59.300 I don't want to start any pessimist rumors, but I think that God's got a sick sense of humor.

01:18:07.300 And when I die, I expect to find him laughing.

01:18:15.300 I don't want to start any pessimist rumors, but I think that God's got a sick sense of humor.

01:18:23.300 And when I die, I expect to find him laughing.

01:18:30.300 God!

RadixJournal - December 27, 2023

Depeche Mode： Some Great Reward

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