RadixJournal - July 01, 2026


Discipline and Punish


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11 minutes

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159.14

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1,769

Sentence count

42

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6

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In the wake of the Supreme Court's ruling allowing birthright citizenship for all of America's children born in the United States, we discuss the implications of the decision and what it means for the future of the legal status of immigrants and their children.

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00:00:00.000 And I thought it was very interesting in Thomas' dissent where he kind of draws a line between how the majority opinion views the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship versus how he views it, where he views it as when the 13th and 14th and 15th Amendments were passed.
00:00:19.040 It was to address the reality of this formerly enslaved population who had already been here for generations and kind of legitimizing the already existing status quo, which was these people were already Americans.
00:00:40.280 We were all we were just incorporating that into the law to include it formally that these people were Americans, whereas the majority opinion in today's decision has this kind of forward looking perspective.
00:00:52.540 Not to say that, oh, we're already incorporating people who have been here for generations.
00:00:57.080 We're basically saying that, no, moving forward, the entire world are Americans who have just not been born here yet. 0.79
00:01:03.560 Yes. Yeah, I know it's coming. 0.99
00:01:07.220 I mean, that's why I think original intent is extremely important to look at and not just the letter of the law, because you have to understand the historical situation they were in.
00:01:18.820 I have sympathy for the reconstructionists.
00:01:21.700 I don't know if I would have been one or I think that they did some things that I disagree with.
00:01:27.080 But I understand the position you're in, which is that what do we do with these people?
00:01:33.220 What is their status?
00:01:34.240 We have just spilled all of this blood over this issue.
00:01:38.400 How can we resolve it in a fair? 1.00
00:01:40.880 I get it, but they solved it, but they never intended, yes, for someone, a Vietnamese woman
00:01:47.980 to fly over here, give birth, and now she has a new citizen.
00:01:52.760 And they didn't even conceive of national security issues, which I know this is sort
00:02:00.020 of a, I mean, this is an unusual thing.
00:02:02.860 I get it. But I don't know a Chinese Russian Israeli. You come over here. Yo, my child's a citizen. And then maybe he'll go to a university or maybe work in the military or maybe he'll go into the CIA. Isn't that interesting? But he's got real deeper allegiance back at home.
00:02:22.060 Now, the Muslim threat on this is tremendous. It makes me worry about you, but what you're up to exactly. But you get my point. They didn't think in terms of national security. Is that common? No. Is that outrageous thought to think of a Chinese national who, no, every week that goes by, we learn of information theft done by Chinese nationals who work in the military, corporations, etc. 0.93
00:02:50.200 etc it's a real thing yeah the new york times did a uh a story maybe a month or two ago about a
00:02:57.220 chinese couple who hired maybe a dozen something like that around a dozen surrogates to give birth
00:03:04.680 to children in the united states and they were all being raised collectively in some house i think in
00:03:10.400 san francisco or los angeles where it was just like eight to ten kids who were all born via
00:03:16.040 surrogacy to these chinese parents yes because they were born here they're all american citizens
00:03:21.800 right there was no way that the framers of the 13th 14th 15th amendment could possibly
00:03:26.480 had ever conceived of this no it's ghastly in fact to think that you would do that to your 1.00
00:03:33.140 own child right in fact yeah it's horrible but yes of course the chinese are doing that 1.00
00:03:38.880 sorry if I offended anyone uh but um they eat live animals yeah um so I I just it's like I 1.00
00:03:48.520 think we just need like in original intent I think should inform any sort of legalism that
00:03:57.840 we might rationally pursue but in the sense of that's history and analysis you really need to
00:04:03.480 understand not just the letter but what what's between the lines what's behind the letter of
00:04:09.140 the law not just read it plainly there's something else going on there you have to you have to try to
00:04:14.060 access that historical situation to the degree that you can a but b we need to have a pragmatic
00:04:23.100 pragmatic legal philosophy in which we're dealing with the world as it is you know like that 0.90
00:04:32.740 ghastly Chinese situation, the idea of foreign spies, the idea of just cheap birth tourism. 0.99
00:04:40.800 It might be small, but it's just offensive if it happens once. And it's obviously extremely 0.91
00:04:48.980 possible to do that. And so just like we need to live in the here and now in reality and not in
00:04:58.000 some sort of ethereal realm of words and not only in some historical realm of original intent
00:05:07.220 and the fact that we can't do this i i think is just like i guess now i'm sort of overreacting
00:05:14.040 like all these conservatives but like the fact that we can't do this just strikes me as just
00:05:21.120 it's just an expression of why america is a mistake and is going down the tubes
00:05:28.380 like we should never ever be beholden to a text like we ever like the cons we we have a living
00:05:40.380 constitution that means that we we have we think of the law and politics right here right now and
00:05:48.280 looking forward that we exist in this world we there's no platonic america that exists on paper
00:05:55.060 and this worship of the constitution that americans go through just i mean for instance my
00:06:02.660 son bought a t-shirt that was kind of fun it's great but it has like the letters of the of like
00:06:09.180 the declaration of independence it's just like what what is this idolatry of words like yeah
00:06:15.880 the founders, pretty interesting guys, but they were actually wrong about a lot of things. 0.98
00:06:20.660 They were massive hypocrites. And I don't care what they think. I'm going to decide this for 0.98
00:06:26.860 myself. And just this worship of language is just the most absurd thing on earth. We need to be in
00:06:36.820 a order where we have a living constitution. And that is about survival first. And secondly,
00:06:44.640 flourishing and expansion that is our constitution anything like anything that supports our survival
00:06:52.360 and our flourishing is not illegal and i don't period i'm you know this is basically the roman
00:06:59.820 print uh the the salvation of the people is not against the law that has to be our guiding
00:07:05.400 principle and i don't care if you like the founding fathers or you they were based or you
00:07:11.060 know you're one of these little goofy libertarians who liked all these powdered wig people i don't
00:07:15.780 care they were great in comparison with like contemporary congress critters yeah of course 0.66
00:07:22.220 but we all are superior to people who get elected to congress i mean so like i don't care like we
00:07:29.620 we have to think in this level survival is not against the law period
00:07:36.180 end of ransom well i think the reason why there is this worship of the letter of the law has to
00:07:44.180 do with the fact that the american constitution the founding fathers come from that enlightenment
00:07:50.700 tradition right that that whole philosoph men of letters etc etc etc was liberalism itself is a
00:08:00.020 worship of the letter right of the letter of the law it believes that everything can be reduced
00:08:04.740 down to contracts and all and these this type of formalism and it honestly goes back to like
00:08:10.740 i think feel like amalek's gonna love this this the kind of christian tradition of europe right
00:08:15.640 the logos god is the word right is an actual literal worship of the word right and it's and
00:08:23.940 you need to have this kind of conception of the constitution of as a living document if you're
00:08:28.600 going to have this kind of very american you know disposition that we have in terms of like an
00:08:34.200 allergy to um you know national reformation right like in the way that the french are on their fifth
00:08:40.900 republic or whatever the case may be like we i think we're we are the oldest government you know
00:08:46.360 extant government yeah like i think in terms of like continuity like we are the longest standing
00:08:51.080 government it's like we if we are going to be completely allergic to you know starting from
00:08:57.060 scratch then we need to have this kind of interpretation of the constitution that is able
00:09:01.120 to live with the reality of the world that is as it exists starting from scratch you know sometimes
00:09:07.180 you get divorced i can say this from personal experience and i'm really glad that i am divorced
00:09:13.100 i mean i don't know what kind of what kind of scratch would we be starting from if we were to
00:09:17.640 do it now is the problem well that that is a problem better the devil you know you know that
00:09:24.080 i get it that is a problem and that is a good argument for just like sticking with the thing
00:09:28.660 that worked i get it but sometimes you have to start from scratch too yeah sometimes companies
00:09:33.580 go bankrupt you know like do you want to like maintain companies forever no you know this old
00:09:40.420 steel company it doesn't make sense anymore let's have a new company let's have a new republic i i
00:09:45.040 just think we need to be open-minded to like sometimes things don't work and you just get
00:09:50.360 rid of it and i i think now we we have that ability in the constitution at least like potentially
00:09:56.520 But the prospect of a constitutional convention or whatever, I mean, basically at this point, this thing cannot be revised. And so all that leads us is to these people, again, like Amy Coney Barrett, like Action Jackson, like Sotomayor, like just these like Uber nerds in black robes pretending to be priest in effect, like telling us what this document really means.
00:10:23.420 or I just at some point I just look at this the way we do business in the government the way we 0.98
00:10:32.060 operate this is just so stupid it's it's not like better we're not more civilized because we act like 0.99
00:10:41.340 this we're just ruled by lawyers which is the worst hey hey yeah yeah well I've heard of worse 1.00
00:10:49.080 No, honestly, lawyers are retards. 1.00
00:10:50.920 But no, it's true. 1.00
00:10:53.360 But I mean, this ends up being, like you said, where it's like, we're not going to have a constitutional convention.
00:10:58.000 What this inadvertently ends up leading to is we end up being praxisites.
00:11:02.400 We end up being like, oh, we're going to go live in Uruguay in our praxis community.