RadixJournal - September 02, 2016


Fellow Travelers


Episode Stats

Length

29 minutes

Words per Minute

173.75566

Word Count

5,120

Sentence Count

395

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the impact of Donald Trump's immigration speech at the 2016 Democratic National Convention, and how it changed the way we think about immigration and the country as a whole. We also talk about the impact it had on the country, and why we should all be paying attention to it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I was literally shaking last night.
00:00:02.620 How about you?
00:00:04.240 I didn't mean to watch it.
00:00:06.380 I had no intention to watch the speech.
00:00:09.360 I happened to come to my computer because I've cut the cord and turned on Fox, FoxNews.com, went there.
00:00:18.180 And I was like, oh, I'll watch.
00:00:19.440 I'll give it a shot.
00:00:20.400 Popped on Twitter just because I wanted to be able to see live reaction.
00:00:23.440 And that's really cool because it's basically like you're watching a speech with some of your best friends.
00:00:30.000 When you're on Twitter, it's amazing.
00:00:32.440 It's a lot of fun and the instantaneous reaction from anyone in the world, really.
00:00:36.960 So let me I'll just jump in real quick.
00:00:38.860 I mean, one could say that what has happened is very in terms of social media is very unhealthy because we're we should be having communal interactions with people who face to face and we live near and so on.
00:00:54.160 But, you know, it is what it is.
00:00:55.840 I was joking with a friend of mine the other day.
00:00:59.880 I was like, I don't think at this point I have any non shit lord friends.
00:01:04.100 And you could say that that's sad.
00:01:07.420 Like I'm a I'm this recluse who, you know, lives in, you know, is up in my attic on Twitter.
00:01:15.140 So on.
00:01:15.500 But it's not exactly like that.
00:01:17.240 Like, you know, it's a good and a bad.
00:01:19.240 I mean, you could say this is a very bad development.
00:01:21.340 We're not connected to their communities.
00:01:22.960 Or you could say this is an amazing development that, you know, we're meeting all these people who we never would have met.
00:01:29.440 And we're building friendships that wouldn't have happened 20 years ago.
00:01:34.280 People build unbelievable brands.
00:01:36.320 Yeah.
00:01:36.680 Yeah.
00:01:37.280 Out of thin air.
00:01:38.260 And that's the beautiful thing of what of what's happening.
00:01:40.980 But you're asking where, you know, so I started watching and it dawned on me after he started to list off these these these tenants, these planks.
00:01:49.520 It's like this guy is giving a speech that is he's basically asserting.
00:01:53.880 And he's basically, OK, let's go to Red Dawn.
00:01:58.560 Remember that great scene in John Milius is Red Dawn where what's the difference between them and us?
00:02:04.260 Huh?
00:02:04.960 He goes, because we live here.
00:02:06.540 Right.
00:02:06.840 And that to me has always been kind of a motto of how I view life.
00:02:10.680 It's like, OK, you know, hey, I like what Trump said about Mexico.
00:02:13.780 Mexico, they have a right for self-determination in Mexico, not in America.
00:02:17.880 They don't have the right to determine our trajectories and nation.
00:02:21.560 Right.
00:02:21.840 That was the setup.
00:02:23.000 This is the thing.
00:02:24.720 It was this it was actually brilliant.
00:02:27.040 And I I go back and forth between thinking Trump is like just flying by the seat of his pants and he doesn't know what he's doing.
00:02:35.380 But it all seems brilliant.
00:02:37.000 Like, you know, at the post facto kind of thing.
00:02:41.340 But and then I often sometimes think, oh, this man is actually a total genius in terms of PR and influence.
00:02:48.080 I kind of go back and forth, to be honest.
00:02:49.900 But I would say that yesterday, September or August 31st, which what what is today?
00:02:56.480 Today, September 1st, August 31st, 2016 of the current year.
00:03:01.160 That was a day of brilliance because he it was a setup like the morning session where he was in Mexico was very diplomatic, very serious.
00:03:12.000 I wouldn't say high energy, to be honest.
00:03:14.420 Like, it was kind of boring, but, you know, diplomatic press conferences are boring.
00:03:21.840 I don't know if there's ever been one that's been really interesting in our lifetime.
00:03:25.580 It's a you know, it's very well crafted, very safe talk and so on.
00:03:31.260 But he did set it up because he said, like, you know, Iris, I love Mexico.
00:03:35.440 They're amazing people.
00:03:36.840 They're wonderful.
00:03:37.840 You know, all that kind of stuff.
00:03:38.980 But he was like, they have a right to love themselves and we have a right to love ourselves.
00:03:43.880 And so that was a kind of little little seed of nationalism that he planted.
00:03:48.600 And then in the evening, it was just like unbelievable.
00:03:54.960 That was that speech was so much better than I would have imagined.
00:04:00.160 And the other thing about it is that he was really hearkening back to 1924.
00:04:07.320 Because and the 1924 Immigration Act, there are actually a couple of acts that came that were there.
00:04:13.220 Because basically those acts, which were influenced by people like Madison Grant and so on, and Madison Grant was almost like, yeah, those guys were acting almost like Eminence Gris.
00:04:23.920 They were behind the scenes, you know, you know, certainly influencing people through their ideology and their concepts of history and so on.
00:04:33.560 But basically that was an act based on we want to keep America the same.
00:04:37.580 Therefore, all new immigration is going to reflect the ethnic and racial constitution of the current nation.
00:04:45.240 And OK, yes, Trump did not say that.
00:04:48.480 He did not quote from the conquest of the continent or something.
00:04:51.920 But that would have been a little.
00:04:52.860 The past of the great race.
00:04:54.520 If he would have done that, then I might have had a heart attack.
00:04:57.760 I think maybe he spared me by not.
00:04:59.840 Yeah.
00:05:00.500 But anyway.
00:05:03.060 But so he but he was gesturing towards that.
00:05:07.080 Like, it wasn't this we're a universal nation or it wasn't a like we've got to be fair to the world.
00:05:13.860 You know, there are people in, you know, Indonesia who want to be here.
00:05:17.020 How could we say no to those guys?
00:05:18.600 You know, it wasn't that nonsense.
00:05:20.020 It was it was basically we're going to have immigration that reflects our nation.
00:05:24.580 And it wasn't I mean, it was a little soft around the edges.
00:05:28.580 But just the fact that he put forth that idea was huge.
00:05:34.300 And it was it's like he's changing the way people think.
00:05:39.380 He's like reorienting their their minds.
00:05:42.580 And that is really I don't think we can underestimate the significance of that.
00:05:46.980 There's not much else to say what there's not much else to, you know, to analyze the speech than what you just said.
00:05:53.260 We are witnessing a historic paradigm shift in the world.
00:05:56.980 Yes.
00:05:57.260 And our and our and our brethren, our our our cousins in Europe, I hope they're listening carefully.
00:06:04.100 And they look at what Merkel and they work.
00:06:06.000 They look at what and what I can't even think what the French president's name is.
00:06:10.340 Who cares?
00:06:10.880 It doesn't really matter.
00:06:12.600 Holland or whatever.
00:06:13.780 Yeah.
00:06:14.320 Yeah.
00:06:14.660 Yeah.
00:06:15.020 You know, it's August 31st is a date.
00:06:21.060 2016 is a date that our great grandkids will look at if we if we if we do turn things around.
00:06:28.060 And it doesn't mean that Trump is the great, you know, the great leader who's going to, you know, lead us charging into, you know, the hordes of Mordor or something like that.
00:06:37.060 No, no, no.
00:06:37.900 He's opening the gate for that eventual person persons.
00:06:42.440 And so is Hillary Clinton.
00:06:44.120 Oh, Hillary Clinton.
00:06:45.000 Hillary Clinton.
00:06:47.700 She did this while I was on my Japanese vacation.
00:06:50.620 So I really I didn't get to do a podcast on it.
00:06:53.020 But I'm going to be doing some more podcasts in the next coming days.
00:06:56.820 I'm just recovering.
00:06:57.600 I arrived back late last night, late the night before Tuesday night.
00:07:04.160 I'm still kind of jet lagged and kind of out of it, to be honest.
00:07:07.380 But I'm going to do some I'm going to do some more talking about the subject.
00:07:10.600 But, yeah, you know, Trump changed people's minds.
00:07:14.340 And Hillary did as well, because Hillary what was remarkable about Hillary's speech was that she she was she did outreach to John McCain, George W. Bush, Mitt Romney supporters.
00:07:27.300 She was basically saying we're all one.
00:07:30.520 You know, we might we might disagree on policy, but, you know, in terms of the big picture, we're all together on this.
00:07:37.320 And the alt-right is the alt-right is the moniker of resistance.
00:07:41.280 The alt-right is the black flag.
00:07:44.040 It's funny you say it's funny you say that way, because I thought James Kirkpatrick wrote a really good piece for Vidaire, where he used the word collaborators.
00:07:51.500 And I think that's such a perfect word to describe the outreach that that she did to the neocons, to the standard bearers, the Republican Party, who have been the architects and the faces of just such disastrous policies.
00:08:08.100 You know, they're not even collaborators.
00:08:09.340 They're just colleagues.
00:08:10.680 You know, they're they're equals.
00:08:11.740 You know, it's like it's like from Carol Quigley's book, Tragedy and Hope, where he talks about being able to sit in on all these meetings.
00:08:18.360 And he said, well, I just wish we would be open about what we're doing.
00:08:21.180 Well, just open.
00:08:22.820 Hillary was just incredibly transparent about the partnership that exists in the Beltway within this.
00:08:29.380 We think it's we think it's actually a game, but it's it's even worse than professional wrestling.
00:08:33.660 It's just shadow boxing at this point.
00:08:36.240 And, you know, we we understand and I think to to some extent, the Bernie Sanders supporters who are just non-existent now, I have no idea what happened to him.
00:08:47.380 They should be ashamed of themselves.
00:08:48.640 Perhaps they're hiding in his vacation home or something.
00:08:52.800 I agree.
00:08:53.160 They got it.
00:08:53.900 They were getting it.
00:08:54.860 They did get it in their own way.
00:08:56.560 You know, they're leftist, whatever.
00:08:58.460 But they kind of got it as well.
00:09:00.120 They did get it.
00:09:00.720 And it's just it's just a shame because Hillary Hillary just gave a speech that like you're right.
00:09:05.860 I mean, she basically just show she basically just put all the all the cards on the table and it's like, wow, OK.
00:09:11.500 So it is just a incestuous orgy that, you know, Matt Drudge couldn't even comprehend if he was trying to do the Burning Man orgy that he keeps linking to.
00:09:22.180 Yes.
00:09:23.060 If you see that story, he keeps linking to it.
00:09:25.420 Anyways, what is that?
00:09:27.540 The Burning Man?
00:09:28.060 Oh, there's some there's some tent at Burning Man that he must be fixated upon because he keeps he keeps linking to all these strange stories of sexual depravity at Burning Man.
00:09:38.560 It's funny because, you know, it's not exactly news, I guess.
00:09:43.240 Point of this point is this.
00:09:45.120 And that's a great little segue, though.
00:09:47.100 Matt Drudge deserves a hand in all of this.
00:09:49.040 You know, he might not be unofficial shit lord.
00:09:51.560 And, you know, there are some things about Matt that I think we all have problems with.
00:09:55.920 But he has been such a huge proponent of breaking the ceiling, so to speak, in terms of he's now, you know, he's now actually using terms like, you know, white people beaten as opposed to just like, oh, it's a knockout game.
00:10:09.540 Yeah, I agree.
00:10:11.500 Do you know what?
00:10:12.020 This is how I would describe it, is that I actually I might, you know, quibble with Kirkpatrick on collaborators.
00:10:22.020 I think that's almost like assuming that these Democrats are in control.
00:10:26.020 I would say they're colleagues.
00:10:27.240 But I would say this.
00:10:29.300 I think people like Drudge and Ann Coulter and Milo and others are fellow travelers and with us, with the alt-right.
00:10:40.780 And, of course, we have our disagreements.
00:10:43.280 Like, you know, Ann Coulter, she comes from mainstream conservatism.
00:10:47.820 She's like a hard – she was a hardcore version of mainstream conservatism.
00:10:51.500 That's why I would always – I couldn't stand her until recently.
00:10:55.600 And she did write a book that could have been titled Democrats are the Real Racist.
00:11:01.860 It's called Mugged from 2012.
00:11:03.860 You know, I'm not –
00:11:04.600 It is.
00:11:04.860 It is.
00:11:05.340 It is.
00:11:05.720 That's what it is.
00:11:06.840 However, look, I'm nothing if not a scientist.
00:11:11.160 Like, I'm willing to change my opinion when facts change.
00:11:15.260 And so, you know, I like Ann now.
00:11:17.420 I think she is a fellow traveler of the alt-right.
00:11:20.860 And I don't, in a way, want her to be alt-right.
00:11:24.000 I don't want her to start sounding exactly like Richard Spencer because that doesn't – she's less powerful that way.
00:11:32.160 You know, we already have me.
00:11:34.040 We already have Jared.
00:11:35.840 We have Kevin MacDonald.
00:11:37.040 Like, I think it's good that we have Ann.
00:11:39.540 And she's pushing – you know, she's channeling energy in our direction.
00:11:44.840 And people like Stefan Molyneux.
00:11:46.680 I mean, I actually have been a fan of Molyneux for a while.
00:11:50.760 Not that I agreed with him.
00:11:52.380 I'm not an anarchist.
00:11:53.740 But I always found him very compelling and charismatic.
00:11:57.120 And, you know, whenever you listen to a Stefan Molyneux talk, you know, you know it's going to be interesting.
00:12:04.200 And he's kind of bringing people towards – you know, he's channeling the energy towards the alt-right.
00:12:13.020 So I think this is great.
00:12:14.780 And I think it's – you know, the communism had fellow travelers and they weren't communists.
00:12:19.720 They were people who sympathized.
00:12:21.600 They agreed with, say, 80 percent or maybe just 50 percent or 51 percent.
00:12:26.820 But that was enough.
00:12:28.240 And they were important people, maybe more important than, like, hardcore Marxist intellectuals.
00:12:36.100 So, you know, I think it's a great thing.
00:12:38.140 I think we should be applauding fellow travelers.
00:12:40.740 And we should also criticize them.
00:12:42.300 Like, if Ann goes and does more – you know, TRS, it's like – what is it?
00:12:49.380 D-Arc cubed or –
00:12:51.760 Something like that.
00:12:52.440 Yeah, D-Arc.
00:12:54.060 If she goes DR cubed, I'll definitely, like, hit back at her.
00:12:58.200 But that's –
00:12:59.440 Well, if Ann tweets that she's going to go see a matinee showing of Hillary's America and encourages other people to go see it, well, then we know, hey, Ann, come on.
00:13:07.260 Give us a break.
00:13:07.960 Yeah, right, right.
00:13:08.160 Seriously.
00:13:08.800 Come on.
00:13:09.520 You know, Dinesh, what?
00:13:12.080 He's a plagiarizer who had to have, what, end of racism, first print run, scrap, because he lied about Sam Francis and Jared Taylor.
00:13:20.080 It wasn't that.
00:13:20.880 He was plagiarizing.
00:13:21.880 He was plagiarizing parts of – this is the great irony of that scandal.
00:13:26.860 Jared Taylor – and I believe Jared might have written this under the name Samuel Taylor because there's – he's used – I don't know the whole story behind that.
00:13:35.420 I've never asked him about it.
00:13:36.320 But he wrote a book called – what was it called?
00:13:40.200 It was from the 90s.
00:13:41.860 Paid with Good Intentions.
00:13:42.540 Paid with Good Intentions.
00:13:43.480 I actually read that about 10 years ago.
00:13:45.760 But it's definitely real on race, but it's not from the perspective of a nationalist.
00:13:53.800 It's almost like a Heather McDonald-style book.
00:13:59.040 Which is fine.
00:13:59.920 It is what it is.
00:14:00.640 Yeah, it is what it is.
00:14:01.080 It is what it is.
00:14:01.860 Right.
00:14:02.060 And Dinesh was using – he was effectively plagiarizing that book while he was criticizing the American Renaissance Conference and bashing Sam Francis and effectively getting Sam Francis fired as well.
00:14:17.520 Pre-internet days or early internet days in the mid-90s, that was – you had to – excuse me.
00:14:23.420 You had to write articles like that.
00:14:25.320 Sam Francis would be cackling about what's going on right now because he would have gotten his book out on the synthesizing race and history and politics.
00:14:37.700 But going back real quick to what you're talking about, the fellow travelers, I guess I can say this.
00:14:41.720 I've met a lot of these people.
00:14:43.740 I know a lot of these people.
00:14:44.620 And before he had his – unfortunately, one of his main outlets severed, Milo – I'm talking about Twitter – had an opportunity to meet him.
00:14:56.160 And I told him, I said, look, dude, you're really important, but the guy that I think is the most important thinker out there who's doing a lot of good things because he's basically forced an entire organization to shift gears in its coverage of politics and world events.
00:15:13.080 That's Paul Joseph Watson at InfoWars.
00:15:15.920 And, I mean, the stuff – we can laugh and think, oh, come on, that's ridiculous.
00:15:20.120 But it's amazing how active this guy is and the output that he has on what's happening in Europe to Europeans by this Muslim migration.
00:15:29.860 He just posted this horrifying image on Facebook of a fountain, a beautiful fountain in Paris in 2013.
00:15:37.880 Then there's an image of it in 2016, and it's completely graffitied, and it looks like you're in Johannesburg.
00:15:46.920 And it's just – it's a frightening image, and it's that kind of meme.
00:15:51.020 It's that kind of pushing the same subject over and over again, this cultural enrichment.
00:15:57.480 I love – we joke about that phrase, but that's what – he's beginning to red pill and lead people into our direction, which is something that –
00:16:07.680 10 years ago, this guy was writing books about 9-11 and Building 7, and there was no plane that hit the Pentagon.
00:16:16.060 I actually read that book.
00:16:17.020 It was actually pretty good.
00:16:18.320 And InfoWars did much goofier stuff than that.
00:16:22.020 They did.
00:16:22.320 I mean, yeah, they're – the InfoWars transition has been pretty remarkable because I remember, you know, watching some of his YouTube videos and reading some of the stuff.
00:16:35.120 And, you know, it was – it's interesting.
00:16:39.580 It was kind of like entertainment.
00:16:41.220 I don't know if you remember the Vigilant Citizen blog.
00:16:43.680 I had not read that in a while.
00:16:44.660 But, you know, it was like interesting arguments and kind of fascinating exegesis, and I'm a fan of exegesis.
00:16:52.400 It's, you know, interpretation of pop culture that's –
00:16:56.080 Occult symbolism.
00:16:57.040 Right.
00:16:57.440 It was very intriguing.
00:16:59.080 But, you know, you take it with a big shaker of salt, you know.
00:17:03.260 It's like – and I never would have imagined that, you know, the InfoWars and Paul Joseph Watson would be pro-police.
00:17:10.460 They would be non-conspiratorial and more – much more about demographics and so on.
00:17:18.140 InfoWars has an amazing story today that I haven't seen anywhere else of this 18-year-old, this 16-year-old, 18-year-old black kid who beat the five-year-old white girl on the bus.
00:17:26.980 And the teacher, the administrators of the school basically said, oh, that's normal.
00:17:30.820 That's normal behavior.
00:17:32.120 And I'm reading the comments section, and it's like, holy cow, this is – these are startling, startlingly racist comments from the InfoWars readers.
00:17:42.900 Their audience has shifted.
00:17:44.220 I mean it's almost as if the old Alex Jones audience has gone, you know, exclusively to coast-to-coast.
00:17:50.200 And the new Alex Jones audience is basically the kind that they want to read – I mean there's a strange nexus.
00:17:58.720 It's Drudge.
00:17:59.680 It's – it's, you know, for lack of – I'll just say it.
00:18:03.620 I think Gateway Pundit is doing phenomenal work.
00:18:06.120 Jim Hoff.
00:18:06.980 He's another one, yeah.
00:18:08.820 Phenomenal.
00:18:08.980 He's another one that's – I think you could say he's a fellow traveler, and I never would have said that years ago.
00:18:15.120 It's funny.
00:18:15.760 It's funny.
00:18:16.900 Back in 2014, he started doing the phenomenal work, the tremendous work on the Ferguson situation because it basically was happening in his backyard there in Metro St. Louis.
00:18:25.660 And at some point, I was like, hey, I bet this guy is gay.
00:18:28.960 Something told me that – I had this little thing.
00:18:31.160 I was like, hey, I bet you – this guy probably – I watched a speech he did or an interview he did.
00:18:35.320 And I remember when he came out and it was – it was just – it's just really cool to watch all these people make these transitions from points of views that they kind of have this light bulb moment that they think to themselves, wait a second.
00:18:52.360 You know, I think a lot of people in Free Republic are having that.
00:18:56.080 Even Free Republic is getting kind of cool in terms of the comments and the links that they're allowing to go.
00:19:03.860 I've seen a lot of the stuff from my site get – stay up there and get significant traffic.
00:19:10.720 And people are like, oh, my God, you read Kersey too?
00:19:13.800 It's cool.
00:19:14.640 It's great.
00:19:15.800 And one of the reasons why you wanted to have this conversation, I believe, is regarding what just happened with the NFL and Colin Kaepernick.
00:19:23.500 And I believe that as we're speaking, there are people having conversations with their friends and in emails, fantasy football leagues, guys who have known each other all their lives.
00:19:33.540 They're like, man, this piece of garbage.
00:19:35.980 Can you believe this guy won't stand up for the national anthem?
00:19:39.760 And now he's wearing, you know, police pig socks and he's saying that, you know, cops are racist and, you know, they're rogue cops.
00:19:48.460 Do you know what, the way I've described it, and I actually use this term in – when I was at this Detroit gathering that I was – that I spoke at a month ago, which is really great.
00:20:02.600 You know, it was like 75 people, all 100% red-pilled, most all of them under 40.
00:20:09.100 I mean, it was remarkable.
00:20:09.760 But, yeah, I said it's like we're the end station, we're the end station, we're the final result.
00:20:20.140 And you don't – the way I put it is like you never meet someone who is like, oh, I'm an ex-alt-right libertarian or I used to be alt-right, but now, you know, I'm a liberal or I'm a – I used to be alt-right, but now I'm a Marco Rubio supporter.
00:20:37.560 You never meet – to even say this is in a way ridiculous.
00:20:42.480 You never meet those people because basically everyone is an ex-libertarian or an ex-conservative or even an ex-leftist, and they're now alt-right.
00:20:51.400 Like alt-right is the end station.
00:20:54.080 Alt-right is the destination.
00:20:56.420 And you kind of – like you might not go all the way, but that's the direction you're headed in.
00:21:01.980 And I think that – that's what makes our movement important.
00:21:06.440 And I always knew this because this is why – this is what kept – this knowledge kept me going when we were like not being denounced by presidential candidates or talked about on Fox News.
00:21:18.500 Like, you know, you – I've known you.
00:21:21.140 We've probably known each other for almost 10 years now.
00:21:23.720 And, you know, we've been in the wilderness in this movement where like no one paid attention to us.
00:21:29.500 You know, the same people came to the conferences every year.
00:21:32.240 We weren't really making headway and so on.
00:21:34.840 But we understood that we were delving in the real dope.
00:21:41.460 Like this is the stuff that matters.
00:21:43.820 And, you know, this is not some eccentric society of, you know, flat earthers or, you know, some weird hobby or something.
00:21:53.800 You know, this was the real stuff.
00:21:55.880 And it is very inspiring and – to the fact that everyone seems to be coming in our direction.
00:22:04.600 And they might not get all the way.
00:22:06.200 That's fine.
00:22:07.060 Actually, totally fine.
00:22:09.060 And I – again, I like – Paul Joseph Watson – I mean, I think we should push back a little if Paul Joseph Watson is like, oh, yeah, we in the alt-right, you know, believe in libertarianism and whatever.
00:22:19.600 Like we're going to push back on that.
00:22:21.940 But just the fact that he's kind of pushing energy in our direction I think is unequivocally good.
00:22:28.900 So I am pro-alt-light as I – I think I stole that from Fashion Nation.
00:22:34.460 But I think it's a good term.
00:22:35.860 I'm pro-alt-light.
00:22:37.040 I do not – I don't think that we should be Puritans about this and start bashing everyone.
00:22:42.460 I've never believed that actually.
00:22:43.780 I don't think, you know, wild attacks on the manosphere accomplished anything.
00:22:49.380 I don't think that we should be attacking people who are kind of coming our direction.
00:22:54.380 And I think it's just – it's clearly happening.
00:22:57.360 Like if you're going to be edgy, you're going to be coming – you're going to be alt-light.
00:23:01.640 It's a bunch of armies meeting up in the night.
00:23:05.020 And, you know, you never know what's going to happen when the pitchforks are raised and, you know, the village is finally stormed.
00:23:14.600 It's a beautiful thing.
00:23:15.440 You know, I'll tell you, the guys that I've become huge fans of are, you know, the Dilbert guy, Scott Adams.
00:23:21.980 His book, I can't recommend enough.
00:23:24.180 Another great example.
00:23:24.840 How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big is a beautiful autobiography.
00:23:29.960 And it's a wonderful tale because you know what he says in this book that's so fantastic?
00:23:34.480 He basically says, don't have goals.
00:23:36.840 Have a system that you – that becomes routine.
00:23:39.920 And that's what we did.
00:23:42.480 You know, we could have said, oh, we have a goal of one day being denounced by a presidential candidate or we have a goal of being constantly referred to on Rachel Maddow's program or having, you know, obscure GOP consultants say that we're in basements watching anime.
00:24:00.280 Sorry, dude.
00:24:00.940 I don't even know what anime is.
00:24:02.160 You know, my basement has really heavy weights in it that I lift on a daily basis that a lot of athletes and pro sports can't even do.
00:24:10.020 But, you know, it's fascinating how many people out there who, if they would just start having conversations with their followers, would probably lead more individuals to our way to form this collective that – you know, you're right.
00:24:30.320 It's an alt-right light.
00:24:31.140 I thought that was a pretty good article over at American Renaissance that was published yesterday.
00:24:35.320 I think it was by Ellison Lodge on the importance of the alt-right light and laying that carpet.
00:24:42.800 I haven't read that yet, but I'll link to that.
00:24:44.720 It's very good.
00:24:45.380 It's very good.
00:24:46.360 I've heard of that guy, Ellison Lodge.
00:24:47.960 Yeah, and another guy who I think is really important because he's teaching people, if you're watching what he's saying, he's teaching other individuals how to take the baton from him and create their own brands and use social media and the various entities, whether it's Periscope, whether it's Facebook Live, YouTube.
00:25:07.360 Mike Cernovich is a guy that you should be following.
00:25:10.980 You should watch his stuff and you should realize, you know, he might not be as far as I'd want to be.
00:25:17.700 But you know what?
00:25:18.300 I can take the techniques that he's using to build this massive audience and this incredible influence, and I can do that too.
00:25:28.700 And that really is all that –
00:25:30.340 Oh, totally.
00:25:30.680 I mean, he – Cernovich – yeah, this is – again, I am – I think we're both totally on the same page.
00:25:36.240 And I assume that Ellison Lodge agrees as well.
00:25:38.680 Like, there is a value to alt-right, and there's a value to Cernovich.
00:25:42.940 That doesn't mean that we're going to, like, push – not push back.
00:25:47.460 I mean, I think it's very important that we define the alt-right.
00:25:50.460 And I think actually a very good thing – and I'm not saying this to be narcissistic or whatever – but the alt-right is, I would say, intrinsically tied with me.
00:26:04.120 And also Jared.
00:26:06.500 Jared seems to get mentioned as much or more as I do in the mainstream media.
00:26:13.320 So I actually think the alt-right, even if Paul Joseph Watson wants to, like, co-opt it for goofy libertarianism, I think they'll fail.
00:26:21.740 Because, you know, it's – the alt-right didn't emerge with Paul Joseph Watson, and then I adopted it.
00:26:27.780 It's the other way around.
00:26:29.200 And so, you know, I don't think they can actually take it away.
00:26:34.300 And the other thing about it is that, like, Mike Cernovich has obviously built up a huge brand.
00:26:39.220 But also there are people like Ricky Vaughn who have, like, come out of nowhere and built up huge brands.
00:26:45.300 And they are, you know, to the right of Richard Spencer.
00:26:49.320 You know, they make – you know, so it's not like the only success stories have been, you know, all light.
00:26:56.260 There's been, you know, tons of people like Ricky Vaughn who have built up audiences who are, you know, 100% on board.
00:27:02.760 So, yeah, I mean, I think this is – yeah, I'm just – as, you know, as everyone can tell, I'm enthused.
00:27:11.060 Maybe it's just the Trump speech rubbed off of me or Hillary's speech rubbed off of me.
00:27:15.620 But I'm definitely enthused.
00:27:16.920 And I was getting a little – I wasn't getting depressed.
00:27:19.280 I was getting a little down with Trump these past months.
00:27:24.040 It just – there was a softening.
00:27:26.240 I still am not – you know, I think Mike Pence has been basically a non-entity.
00:27:30.760 I mean, he has not really influenced the campaign at all.
00:27:35.360 But, you know, I was still not happy about that pick.
00:27:39.560 I still am not.
00:27:40.500 So I was kind of going off into a little bit of Trump skepticism.
00:27:46.340 But I'm not anymore.
00:27:48.520 I think we're back.
00:27:50.080 And I think Trump – you know, maybe Trump was having moments of self-doubt or something.
00:27:55.500 And then he was just like, fuck it.
00:27:56.780 I'm going to double down on who I am.
00:27:59.520 More importantly, it's about – I don't want to use the term riding the tiger.
00:28:05.880 But the – you know, Milwaukee happened.
00:28:10.140 And that was such an amazing moment because, you know, a black cop who's this really just thug, crappy dude who, you know, who sang a song about – who did a rap song about, you know, starting a riot like Baltimore.
00:28:21.480 He kills one of his friends from childhood, this even worse, you know, POS.
00:28:26.760 And, you know, what do blacks do?
00:28:28.060 They start attacking white people.
00:28:29.540 I mean, that's such a great moment.
00:28:31.320 And what Matt Drudge did that Sunday was just so beautiful because he put it in explicitly racial terms on the most important site on the internet about, you know, whites being attacked by blacks.
00:28:43.720 And when you read the stories, you're like, well, why are white people being attacked?
00:28:46.040 And my god, when did Milwaukee become, you know, majority black when it was, geez, 71% white in 1980 and now it's 37% white?
00:28:54.280 What happened?
00:28:55.620 And, you know, then you go to what happened with Colin Kaepernick and you're just – you know, sports are such an opiate and, you know, I have no problem admitting that I'm fiercely –
00:29:07.940 Let's do this.
00:29:08.760 Let's – I'm going to – let's take a pause.
00:29:11.840 We'll put a bookmark in it and we'll jump into football.
00:29:15.440 So let's just do this.
00:29:16.680 I'm glad we got some things off our chest about Trump and Hillary and the alt-right.
00:29:21.660 But let's put a quick bookmark in this and we'll jump into football.