RadixJournal - Happy Homelands

00:00:00.000 All right, let's watch this.

00:00:02.120 Hello, I'm Jared Taylor with American Renaissance.

00:00:05.580 I started American Renaissance in 1990, 34 years ago, because I thought the United States

00:00:11.620 had made some very bad decisions about race.

00:00:14.980 I thought those mistakes could be corrected.

00:00:17.660 I thought we could change course.

00:00:19.960 But I've been rethinking my goals for some time now, and recently, two things set me

00:00:25.600 off.

00:00:25.880 First, I read a speech given on Robert E. Lee's 100th birthday, January 19th, 1907.

00:00:34.440 One thing, just to, before he talks about the Robert E. Lee speech, it's interesting to

00:00:40.700 ask what motivated Jared, because, and I think this might be revealing, because he said he

00:00:50.880 started American Renaissance in 1990, so it's been, you know, some time, a third of a lifetime.

00:01:00.560 And yes, there were some bad decisions from his perspective and probably ours on race.

00:01:09.620 He also came as a, at the kind of tail end of when, of the triumph of the Southern strategy.

00:01:20.840 And I think this is very revealing when it comes to Jared, because he also came 10 years

00:01:28.820 after the Reagan campaign that actually began in a symbolic town of the civil rights movement.

00:01:42.160 He came 10 years after, five years after, talk of welfare queens and all of this kind of stuff.

00:01:50.580 So he came at a point where it had been really established.

00:01:56.460 Their realignment was in effect.

00:01:59.800 And we're four years away from the Republican Revolution, where we basically created a notion

00:02:06.640 of like a red state, as we know it today.

00:02:09.920 And the old Southern Democrats, that tactic or meme was over.

00:02:20.100 All of those people had become, the voters had become Republicans, at least in national elections.

00:02:26.580 The politicians who were former segregationists had become Republican, switched parties.

00:02:32.880 And the Southern strategy as a, we're going to play footsie with race and sometimes get a little

00:02:43.520 aggressive with race and call out the welfare moms or talk about busing, that that had been

00:02:51.180 established as a Republican meme, as it were.

00:02:56.420 And I think that's also significant, that he thought that the tide was turning.

00:03:03.600 White people were kind of gathering, or Southern whites were gathering in the GOP, and it was

00:03:10.560 the time to just make it explicit.

00:03:13.380 You know, let's stop talking about welfare queens and let's just do race and IQ charts and race 0.57

00:03:21.780 and crime charts, et cetera.

00:03:23.000 The speaker was Charles Francis Adams.

00:03:28.460 He was from Massachusetts, the son of President John Quincy Adams and the grandson of President

00:03:34.360 John Adams.

00:03:36.220 Charles Francis Adams was not a friend of the South.

00:03:40.140 During the Civil War, he was U.S. envoy to Britain and almost single-handedly kept it

00:03:45.500 from recognizing the Confederacy.

00:03:47.900 And yet, speaking of Lee, in Lee's home state, he said,

00:03:52.260 Virginians, whom shall we set apart as one of our sacred men?

00:03:58.220 Him you will set on a high column that all men looking at it may be continually apprised

00:04:04.540 of the duty you expect from them.

00:04:07.400 And indeed, Robert E. Lee was set on high columns all across the South.

00:04:12.120 Even a former enemy from Massachusetts saw what an inspiring model of manhood he was.

00:04:19.580 That was part of the reconciliation of North and South, healing the wounds of the Civil War.

00:04:26.580 Today, that speech by Adams would be like Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts planting a

00:04:33.960 battle flag on Confederate Memorial Day.

00:04:37.020 The nation that sought reconciliation that way is gone.

00:04:41.720 It's dead.

00:04:42.960 Now, there's to be no reconciliation with Confederates.

00:04:46.980 And all past acts of reconciliation were grievous moral failings and must be corrected.

00:04:53.580 But that speech by Adams got me thinking about something else.

00:05:01.540 Jared correctly assesses that it was an act of reconciliation.

00:05:10.240 And so, a lot of the praise of the South, a lot of the toleration or even endorsement of

00:05:20.140 Confederate statues that were coming about in the 20th century mostly, in the kind of lost

00:05:26.740 cause myth that was tolerated, was a way of making it all work.

00:05:32.340 So, we're not going to do Reconstruction anymore.

00:05:35.260 That's harsh.

00:05:36.100 We're not going to fill up the South Carolina legislature with 60% Africans or whatever they 1.00

00:05:43.540 were, you know, some horror stories like that.

00:05:47.600 And we're not going to, you know, nitpick and fraud you about the fact that you tried to

00:05:58.380 succeed.

00:05:58.980 We're going to reconcile as one nation.

00:06:01.120 And that means that you're ultimately under Lincoln, but then we're going to say that

00:06:05.940 Lee was great, too.

00:06:08.680 But, you know, all of that was fundamentally symbolic.

00:06:15.100 And maybe it was symbolic in the worst sense of that word, in the sense that it was kind

00:06:22.240 of meaningless or a token gesture.

00:06:25.540 All of the things that, you know, where we went wrong on race, all of those occurred in 0.98

00:06:36.160 places that had Confederate memorials.

00:06:39.180 So, it was a sort of, you know, it wasn't symbolic in the sense that it was like deeply meaningful

00:06:48.160 or essential.

00:06:49.320 It was instead symbolic in the sense of, you know, what's a good metaphor here of like,

00:06:56.800 you know, giving the losing team a participation trophy or something.

00:07:00.880 Like, it was symbolic in that infuriating sense.

00:07:06.540 And so, I don't know.

00:07:09.180 I mean, I think there's, I've said this before, and this is kind of my reassessment of Charlottesville

00:07:17.120 and so on.

00:07:18.400 And I think maybe there's something positive about tearing down these statues in the sense

00:07:25.380 that it doesn't allow you to live in a dream world and believe that you're actually in charge

00:07:35.400 when you manifestly aren't.

00:07:38.180 On the other hand, and in turn, it kind of maybe shows you the limits of mere symbolism.

00:07:46.600 I do understand where you're coming from with the monuments and that it's symbolizing basically

00:07:53.200 power that we don't have.

00:07:55.640 But on the other hand, it's also American history.

00:08:01.540 I'm not a Southerner.

00:08:04.180 I'm born and bred Yankee.

00:08:06.200 I'll probably always live in the North and New England. 0.98

00:08:08.780 But seeing them be torn down by people who absolutely hate white people is repulsive. 0.75

00:08:19.860 So, while I see, like, these statues being torn down, I don't feel the same connection a Southerner does. 0.85

00:08:25.020 But, on the other hand, I'm seeing people who likely want me dead pushing to have these monuments removed.

00:08:36.440 And even if you don't agree with the Confederacy, it's still American history.

00:08:42.060 It's pivotal to American history.

00:08:44.020 I mean, it's one of the biggest events we've ever had outside of the Revolutionary War.

00:08:48.320 So, while they're tearing them down, it's not against the Confederacy.

00:08:54.940 It's not an act against Robert E. Lee.

00:08:57.720 It's against white people. 0.85

00:08:59.940 So, seeing people that hate the country, want to change the country for the worse, tear these things down, is just kind of repulsive to me. 0.94

00:09:09.340 Yeah, I definitely understand that.

00:09:17.180 All right, let's continue here.

00:09:20.960 Whom would we put on a high column today?

00:09:24.540 After a little research, I found that we haven't put anyone on a column in over 100 years.

00:09:30.620 The nation that honored citizens in that way is gone, just like the one that tried to heal the wounds of war.

00:09:38.080 Instead, we now take down the men we once put up.

00:09:43.180 Can a nation change more dramatically than that?

00:09:46.680 Men who once enjoyed the highest honors now come down in disgrace.

00:09:52.800 It's not just Confederates.

00:09:55.400 Everything about America and the people who built it has been turned upside down.

00:10:00.580 Praise turned into contempt.

00:10:03.340 We're told that Columbus committed genocide.

00:10:06.840 So, here he is, face to the ground. 0.96

00:10:10.040 George Washington was a miserable slave owner. 0.89

00:10:12.720 So, he gets a kefir, blindfold, and a Palestinian flag in his eye. 0.98

00:10:17.600 Maybe I'll save it.

00:10:26.440 I mean, Columbus did radically transform the lives of indigenous people.

00:10:38.480 I mean, do you really want to ignore that?

00:10:46.800 I mean, you can still praise him while recognizing that.

00:10:51.040 And I get the overreaction of tearing him down.

00:10:54.820 But I just, I find like this Taylorism is this way of, how do I, he only praises whites ultimately in the sense that we're well behaved.

00:11:10.780 And this is my, you know, ultimate criticism of, you know, IQ nationalism or Crimestat nationalism.

00:11:20.060 I mean, Columbus did do something a lot like genocide.

00:11:27.180 He led to tremendous deaths.

00:11:29.480 And I don't think that should be ignored or obscured.

00:11:36.940 And Aryans are probably uniquely capable in doing things like this. 0.95

00:11:45.120 I remember Jack.

00:11:48.080 We need to scare our enemies more.

00:11:50.480 Exactly.

00:11:51.160 Like, Jack Donovan said.

00:11:54.120 Jack Donovan was, look, I would, to this day, defend him.

00:11:59.180 He was kind of like a better version of the Manosphere.

00:12:02.260 He was also a former Satanist who was gay and all sorts of, lots of issues there, let's say.

00:12:08.700 But I still liked the guy. 0.51

00:12:10.800 But he did have a very funny line when he said, we weren't the only people who invaded, conquered, and enslaved other folks.

00:12:20.000 We just did it better.

00:12:23.680 And...

00:12:23.960 Yeah, that's white excellence. 1.00

00:12:25.760 Exactly.

00:12:26.640 Like...

00:12:26.800 We do a little trolling.

00:12:28.260 We do a little trolling now and again in chariots.

00:12:32.820 We're just trolling, you know.

00:12:35.600 I mean this very seriously.

00:12:37.740 I don't...

00:12:40.420 You know, if the Southern strategy racism, at the end of the day, is basically like a behavior contest.

00:12:49.040 So it's like whites shoplift less at Target.

00:12:56.240 And I don't disagree with that.

00:12:59.800 And I also like being in stable, you know, communities and so on.

00:13:08.300 But if we did, we do it better.

00:13:10.540 Exactly. 0.98

00:13:11.140 We take the whole fucking target. 0.99

00:13:13.100 Like that's... 1.00

00:13:14.000 Like we went to other countries and took their target.

00:13:17.820 If you catch my drift.

00:13:20.120 And so, I don't know.

00:13:21.600 There's this like Nietzschean quality to me where I hate this like praise for whites in terms of behavior.

00:13:30.280 It's like a kitty little cat praising herself for not mauling an antelope or something.

00:13:41.320 It's like you couldn't maul an antelope even if you wanted to. 0.93

00:13:44.600 Like it's ridiculous to praise yourself for being moral.

00:13:49.300 What's unique about Arians is that we were able to conquer people.

00:13:53.940 And we did commit horrifying crimes that I don't think should be ignored.

00:13:59.300 And I kind of understand why other people would hate us or resent us.

00:14:06.800 I mean, I think I mentioned this on the last talk.

00:14:09.260 There's this interesting moment in the genealogy of morality by Nietzsche where he's talking about Hesiod and his ages of man.

00:14:21.600 And he says directly, he was like, even Hesiod couldn't come to terms with the past.

00:14:28.420 And so, he created two ages.

00:14:30.780 There was the age of heroes and the age of iron.

00:14:33.840 And so, the age of heroes was the Homeric conquerors.

00:14:38.420 And they were all wonderful people.

00:14:39.860 And they're now in Elysium.

00:14:41.540 And then the age of iron was these terrible people who were brutal and unfair slave masters, etc.

00:14:50.200 And what Nietzsche said, he was like, look, those are the same age just seen from different perspectives.

00:14:56.240 If you are the winner, you are the slaver, you are going to view your ancestors and yourself as heroes.

00:15:04.260 If you are the one being enslaved, you are going to view those people as brutal criminals and tyrants.

00:15:14.660 And so, you're kind of unable to reconcile these things.

00:15:18.960 And so, you create two ages that are actually one.

00:15:22.420 And I think that was one of many of Nietzsche's most accurate insights that he did intuitively, but it's just clearly correct.

00:15:33.940 And so, I don't know.

00:15:35.720 I kind of understand.

00:15:37.500 To deny that Columbus is a genocidal maniac is to deny his greatness.

00:15:44.400 We're in agreement there.

00:15:45.660 Yeah, I just, maybe if, maybe someone would hear what I'm saying and be like, oh, you're just nitpicking with Jared.

00:15:53.880 These are bad.

00:15:54.880 Okay, fine.

00:15:56.040 But it's actually about, it's a small thing, but it's actually about something really big.

00:16:00.920 It's the way you view things.

00:16:03.100 The other thing about this, I'm not sure they're sticking a Palestinian flag in George Washington's eyes.

00:16:10.920 And so, for those of the people listening to this and not seeing the shared screen, so there's a statue of George Washington.

00:16:18.860 He's wearing a keffa, is that how you pronounce it?

00:16:21.540 The kind of Palestinian scarf.

00:16:24.280 Keffia.

00:16:24.800 And there's a Palestinian flag coming out of it.

00:16:27.860 You could see it.

00:16:28.840 It's a bit of a Rorschach test, but you could see it in two ways.

00:16:31.460 You could see it as the brown hordes, you know, hate Washington. 1.00

00:16:36.880 Or you could see it as the brown hordes are adopting American icons of liberation and freedom. 1.00

00:16:44.060 And, you know.

00:16:45.920 I don't think it's that, Richard.

00:16:48.060 Okay.

00:16:48.500 You know what?

00:16:49.100 I'm going to take a shot in the dark.

00:16:51.260 I don't think George Washington liked the Jews very much either.

00:16:55.940 That's true.

00:16:56.820 It's a complicated image.

00:16:58.280 Now, you could fairly disagree with me on this one, but you see what I'm...

00:17:02.940 You need to fight a war against international finance.

00:17:06.240 True.

00:17:10.720 So, we'll move on here. 0.99

00:17:13.520 Jefferson raped his slave, Sally Hemings. 0.97

00:17:16.160 So, he's on the ground, too. 0.99

00:17:18.300 Even Abraham Lincoln emancipating the slaves has to be protected against vandals because he was a no-good white man.

00:17:26.340 Jamestown, independence from Britain, the conquest of the continent, becoming a great power. 0.81

00:17:33.180 Everything we used to be proud of is now a crime against humanity.

00:17:37.920 What people would rewrite its own history and turn its heroes into monsters?

00:17:43.520 The Germans did, after we helped kill 8 million of them, and they lost a war by unconditional surrender. 0.80

00:17:51.680 The occupying victors hanged their leaders, gave them a new government, and a brand new state of mind.

00:17:58.600 The U.S. needed no such trauma.

00:18:01.740 It did it to itself.

00:18:03.180 But if we no longer set heroes on high comms, does that mean we no longer have models to look up to?

00:18:10.880 Two things, really quickly.

00:18:12.240 It was the United States that did that to Germany, and the Soviet Union as well.

00:18:19.200 But I wouldn't just kind of wipe clean the hands of the U.S. in terms of that.

00:18:28.660 So, what does that maybe tell you about the U.S.'s defining ideology?

00:18:34.500 And also, while the U.S.'s rise to be a great power and conquest of the continent or cowboys and Indians and so on,

00:18:45.280 that was all promoted during the period of the Civil Rights Act and so on.

00:18:53.840 So, might this also tell you something about a deep core to the American ideology?

00:19:05.060 Just something to think about.

00:19:09.140 Someone raise their hand.

00:19:10.740 Do you want to jump in?

00:19:15.460 Okay.

00:19:16.100 No, we do.

00:19:20.360 Go to the children's section of a bookstore and look at the biographies.

00:19:25.180 Who are the inspirations for today's children?

00:19:28.520 Jackie Robinson, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman.

00:19:32.660 You can find children's biographies of Hillary Clinton, Cesar Chavez, Oprah Winfrey.

00:19:39.460 Do you know how many children's biographies of Oprah Winfrey there are?

00:19:43.800 About 40.

00:19:45.100 That's today's equivalent of being set on a high column.

00:19:50.660 We still have the same flag and the same constitution and the same name, but it's a different country.

00:19:58.560 And the required mentality for whites in this new country is one of apology, if not outright self-hatred. 0.66

00:20:07.220 Here's an almost random example.

00:20:08.720 I think this is funny because that's basically what they were doing with Columbus.

00:20:12.500 Yeah, I mean, it's funny saying it's a society based on apology for white men. 0.82

00:20:20.060 That's sort of ironic considering he's doing the same thing with Columbus.

00:20:23.240 What do you mean apologizing for him in both senses of the term?

00:20:28.800 I was going to speak up to say something earlier, but the conversation sort of flowed that I think he is a sort of boomer-esque alt-conservatism still based around Christian morality.

00:20:45.440 Yeah.

00:20:46.440 All right. 1.00

00:20:47.000 So for him, Columbus can't be a badass and go conquer a continent and enslave a bunch of bitches and kill everyone because that wouldn't go with the whole gentlemanly white Christian thing that he's sort of representing. 0.99

00:21:02.360 So in a way, he came and said, ah, I bring you free markets and the good book of the Lord. 0.99

00:21:14.920 Yeah, the good book of the Lord.

00:21:17.100 Milton Friedman.

00:21:20.080 Yeah, you're using, you're kind of playing on the word apology.

00:21:24.260 It's apology in both senses of the term.

00:21:26.100 You're using a woman named Julie Powell.

00:21:31.220 She wrote a book about cooking that was made into a movie.

00:21:35.080 Aside from that, she was an ordinary woman, bad marriage and all. 1.00

00:21:39.580 But she casually wrote things like this on X. 1.00

00:21:43.540 White people are fucking horrible. 1.00

00:21:46.380 Murdering all of us would be a totally sound decision. 1.00

00:21:50.460 I really can't see the argument for slaughtering white people in the streets. 1.00

00:21:54.800 Why would a white woman do that? 1.00

00:21:57.640 It's because if people tell you over and over that you are an evil, psychopathic race, some will believe it. 0.99

00:22:05.720 Back in 1967, one author. 0.95

00:22:08.240 Yeah.

00:22:08.820 I mean, it's.

00:22:10.960 If you keep telling Germans that their whole history was leading up to Nazism, at some point, they're going to believe it. 1.00

00:22:18.540 There's a there's a really equivocal quality to that.

00:22:22.000 But yeah, I don't know.

00:22:25.920 Maybe I think she's right.

00:22:27.240 I think, you know, you know, they should take us out or we're coming for them.

00:22:31.680 That should be the that should be our behavior with this.

00:22:38.220 Not this.

00:22:39.080 The sort of tepid whiteness.

00:22:41.080 Yeah, I think the only way that I mean, this I don't disagree with his fundamental premise, but the only way for it is to kind of flip the premise.

00:22:53.760 And, you know, the only way out is through, so to speak.

00:22:58.520 Like, you know, it's like bring back the chariots.

00:23:05.520 I think I'm pretty sure he, you know, he saw that video.

00:23:10.980 And I think everybody's seen the meme video.

00:23:13.860 It's like white man. 0.61

00:23:14.700 He drinks dairy for the first time. 0.99

00:23:16.520 And then it's all of the chariots of the chad white guy with the blonde hair, blonde hair and the big cocks roaming around Europe. 0.99

00:23:25.440 Yeah, that's what happens. 0.96

00:23:27.100 Arians, when they first drink milk, they invade the world. 1.00

00:23:31.680 But he would say, well, that's not good.

00:23:34.720 All right.

00:23:34.840 That's not whiteness.

00:23:36.560 Whiteness is what picket fans. 0.82

00:23:39.140 Yeah, exactly. 0.95

00:23:40.020 That's his whiteness. 0.91

00:23:41.420 All right. 1.00

00:23:42.500 So in a way, he's getting everything he deserves because he's the one who wants white people to be a cowardly little race of pygmies. 1.00

00:23:50.120 Yeah, it is victimization. 0.99

00:23:52.860 The other thing is you have to, again, I don't disagree with the basic premise.

00:24:00.200 And I think most conservatives wouldn't disagree with it.

00:24:02.560 But you have to get at causation.

00:24:07.180 You know, like, why is this happening?

00:24:09.380 Why has this emerged as the dominant, excuse me, paradigm?

00:24:15.760 Might it have been an incipient core premise of the nation itself?

00:24:23.600 I mean, you at least have to address that.

00:24:26.360 How did it change so quickly and so overwhelmingly?

00:24:29.220 All right.

00:24:31.760 And I think the answer to this is we have to start taking the insults from people who hate whites and say we're all evil conquerors.

00:24:40.560 And we have to start responding to that with flattery.

00:24:43.760 It's like, ah, yeah, we are.

00:24:45.780 Oh, we absolutely have to embrace that.

00:24:49.220 We absolutely have to embrace whites as conquerors. 1.00

00:24:55.580 Like anytime I've been called a colonizer, I'm like, oh, absolutely.

00:24:59.520 I think the proudest part of white history is our colonization. 0.92

00:25:03.080 What we've done to the world, our conquests and stuff.

00:25:07.560 I think doing anything but praising that is incredibly anti-white. 0.95

00:25:15.020 Like when we were talking about Columbus, yes, there is an argument for him being a genocidal maniac.

00:25:21.960 And to that, I say he did nothing wrong.

00:25:24.480 All land conquest throughout time has been taken by force and murder.

00:25:28.940 All of it.

00:25:30.020 It's all been taken by might.

00:25:31.440 But now with the natives, certainly there was trade involved, too. 0.72

00:25:35.880 It wasn't all like it wasn't all slaughter.

00:25:39.240 But to deny that is denying history. 0.93

00:25:41.980 And if you deny history, it's being anti-white, especially anti-white. 0.66

00:25:49.040 So Jared has a view of I'm a big Jared Taylor fan, by the way.

00:25:53.820 I could listen to him read bedtime stories.

00:25:56.560 But he does have a view of sort of the docile white.

00:26:01.440 Where we're just these very friendly, happy people.

00:26:06.020 You know, and the problem with that is it's why we're getting trampled on so bad right now.

00:26:13.000 White history is one of conquest and violence. 1.00

00:26:18.400 It got us to our civilization currently where things are kind of normal. 1.00

00:26:24.700 And then we became tremendously docile and just kind of pathetic.

00:26:30.080 Like, and that's why we're in the situation we're in right now. 0.57

00:26:35.540 Yeah.

00:26:36.100 And what spiritual core led to this as well is just something that needs to be addressed.

00:26:41.960 But I'll go on. 0.99

00:26:43.800 Susan Sontag wrote that the white race is the cancer of human history. 0.99

00:26:48.660 She was way ahead of her time. 0.99

00:26:50.660 That needs to be put into context.

00:26:53.240 I'll go.

00:26:53.680 I won't do it now.

00:26:54.920 I need to go.

00:26:56.700 One thing that a little bit.

00:26:58.900 This is maybe a small thing, but this cherry picking of quotes kind of bother bothers me.

00:27:04.780 It reminds me of like pastors who, you know, Ezekiel 25, 17.

00:27:10.080 It's just, it's like, look, tell me what the context is for that passage.

00:27:16.080 What is she saying? 0.89

00:27:17.100 I don't necessarily disagree with the notion that whites are the cancer of the world history or humankind or whatever in the sense that we're this like evasive species that transforms all society. 1.00

00:27:33.700 I mean, it's hard to deny that white supremacy reigns around the globe. 0.97

00:27:44.240 I mean, just look, I mean, what kind of civil order are you going to have?

00:27:48.540 A parliamentary democracy, because that's the only way forward.

00:27:52.660 Anything else is unacceptable.

00:27:54.600 What are you going to wear to your business or when you appear in public?

00:27:58.840 Like, oh, a suit is a fashion that emerged from military wear in the 19th century.

00:28:04.600 Actually, it's now universal.

00:28:06.820 Where are you going to buy, you know, inexpensive lunch food?

00:28:12.380 McDonald's, of course.

00:28:13.640 Like, how are you going to communicate on an iPhone?

00:28:17.020 I mean, you know, how do you treat women? 0.89

00:28:20.780 Well, feminism. 1.00

00:28:21.220 I mean, for good and for ill, like, we live in a white supremacist world.

00:28:28.840 And I think even calling it white supremacist, I think, is more accurate than calling it, like, Jewish or something, which you might hear from a white nationalist.

00:28:39.740 I don't want to deny the impact of that.

00:28:42.440 I don't want to deny the impact of Judaism and Christianity.

00:28:44.640 But just in terms of, like, basic things of how you're supposed to live, we transformed the entire planet.

00:28:54.660 Like, we don't consider the Congo as entering the community of nations until they wear suits, use iPhones, you know, accept feminism, and have a parliament in their capital city. 0.71

00:29:14.640 So, Lizard Spectator, you wanted to jump in?

00:29:19.060 Haven't all races become docile and tame? 1.00

00:29:23.680 Yeah.

00:29:25.340 Yeah.

00:29:26.700 To a large degree.

00:29:28.440 Well, not the blacks. 0.98

00:29:29.680 I mean, they're still having fun.

00:29:30.840 They're pretty docile at the end of the day, you know?

00:29:38.260 I think we've all been tamed to some extent. 0.79

00:29:41.860 I mean, yeah, there's more crime and there's more kind of baseness, you could say, among Africans of just more interest in sex and getting into fights and all that kind of stuff. 1.00

00:29:56.320 But the degree to which they themselves have been tamed, I don't think should be underestimated.

00:30:06.200 A few people are fighting back.

00:30:15.220 In September 2020, very near the end of his term, Donald Trump issued an executive order on combating race and sex stereotyping.

00:30:24.420 It barred any part of the government from teaching what the order called divisive concepts.

00:30:31.980 Among these were, one race or sex is inherently superior to another. 0.99

00:30:36.300 An individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive.

00:30:44.220 An individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex.

00:30:55.780 Meritocracy, or traits such as a hard work ethic, are racist or sexist, or were created by a particular race to oppress another race.

00:31:05.120 Okay, this is just liberalism from 30 years ago.

00:31:13.100 That document that was put forth by Trump as a way of fighting back is a document fighting back against, I guess, black or female supremacy.

00:31:23.880 And in fact, we're all equal.

00:31:26.200 And no one is guilty of the past.

00:31:28.980 You're not connected to the Aryans and chariots. 0.96

00:31:35.280 You're not connected to Napoleon, or you're not connected to the British Empire.

00:31:39.880 You're just this interchangeable American citizen who can earn money as well as the next guy or gal.

00:31:50.580 I find that notion utterly hateful in itself.

00:31:57.240 I don't think of myself in that way.

00:31:59.800 I don't think of other people in that way.

00:32:01.720 The only way to fight back against the left is to put forth some sort of individualism and libertarianism, where you just popped into the world with no past and thus no future, and you just compete with other individuals for money.

00:32:22.860 It's despicable.

00:32:52.860 It's basically saying this.

00:32:54.520 I just don't understand why he can't see it or at least address the obvious rejoinder to this.

00:33:03.600 It's like he's on a treadmill.

00:33:08.040 I understand there's some critics who are just kind of tedious and nitpicky, and you should just ignore them.

00:33:14.740 I get that.

00:33:15.700 But there's constructive criticism, or there's an actual rejoinder to your thesis that you have to respond to.

00:33:24.040 The fact that he just, for 35 years, has failed to respond to this gets to a point where it's just frustrating, and it's like, all right, I'm not going to...

00:33:36.580 Well, I'm addressing truth now, but I'm not going to really deal with these ideas if it's just this slamming up against a brick wall over and over of dogmatic thinking.

00:33:49.260 Why did he even bother to start his whole thing if, like, you said... 0.98

00:33:58.460 Wait, he said he started this shit in the 90s, right? 0.99

00:34:01.320 Yes, 1990s. 1.00

00:34:02.380 The American Renaissance?

00:34:02.920 Yeah.

00:34:03.040 Yeah, so why did he bother starting American Renaissance if his goal was to just agree with the 1990s political belief that everyone is vaguely equal and we should be nice to each other?

00:34:19.680 Why did he even do this?

00:34:21.980 What's the point?

00:34:23.720 How was he radical back then?

00:34:25.360 Well, it's an interesting question, because he's claimed at various times, I don't know if he's claimed this publicly, he's claimed it to me that, I mean, he started in 1990, I guess, or maybe...

00:34:39.240 Anyway, it was the bell curve was released, and there just seemed to be just obvious implications to this quantitative way of thinking, and so this had to affect us.

00:34:50.360 And in fact, everyone ignored the bell curve, as we learned later. 0.93

00:34:53.500 So you're just promoting a sort of, like, free market dogma of we shouldn't have affirmative action, and it's okay if blacks are poor because their IQs are lower. 0.97

00:35:06.480 I get that.

00:35:08.040 I think that's a legitimate perspective on the world, but it's a liberal perspective on the world at the end of the day.

00:35:14.280 It's interesting, because if you go back to his early books, like, oh God, Paved with Good Intentions, you have this book that is not about white identity or not about separate, certainly not about separatism or something.

00:35:33.480 It's basically about the bad behavior of black liberals, and how they're anti-white and unfair, and it's a lot of things you hear from conservatives today, actually, was a book he wrote very early on.

00:35:46.460 I think it might have...

00:35:48.480 Let me just look at Amazon real quick.

00:35:56.140 Aved with Good Intentions, Jared Taylor.

00:35:59.720 Jared Taylor.

00:36:03.480 When this book was actually released, I think it was before he started Amron.

00:36:11.960 So it's 2014, but that's, like, a re-release.

00:36:19.200 I don't know.

00:36:20.280 Not seeing it on Amazon, but I think it was before Amron.

00:36:23.860 I think it was, like, 1988 or something like that.

00:36:26.080 But if you're just arguing for the end of anti-whiteness, you're ultimately arguing for liberalism.

00:36:35.120 You're ultimately saying, like, you people should stop being so mean.

00:36:40.360 This is racism in reverse.

00:36:41.920 You know, it's, like, every people does think of itself as supreme on some level.

00:36:55.460 Every people is a chosen people on some level.

00:36:59.380 And if you're just going to reject that, then I don't know what we're doing here.

00:37:04.220 And I guess this will lead into my criticism of separatism, at least as it's described by Jared.

00:37:11.100 I won't even ask why Donald Trump thought he had to issue an order banning those ideas from government training programs.

00:37:19.480 I won't even have to ask why Donald Trump had to assert liberalism.

00:37:25.940 Liberalism should be taken for granted.

00:37:27.560 More important is that Joe Biden, on inauguration day itself, revoked that executive order.

00:37:35.580 He thought it was so important to get that off the books that he revoked it the very day he walked into the White House.

00:37:43.100 But I may be the only guy who noticed.

00:37:45.860 No one asked him, Joe, are you inherently an oppressor and personally responsible for slavery? 0.88

00:37:52.040 Did white people invent meritocracy as an excuse to oppress black people?

00:37:56.460 But it was top priority for a new president to make sure that people in government could teach that stuff.

00:38:03.740 Mr. Biden also issued an executive order commanding the entire 2.7 million man federal bureaucracy

00:38:10.680 to submit plans to discriminate in favor of black, Latino, indigenous and Native American,

00:38:17.460 Asian American, Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander persons and other persons of color

00:38:22.480 and, of course, LGBTQI-plus persons.

00:38:27.720 That plus, I think, is for all the aberrations yet to be discovered.

00:38:32.360 Well, who got left out? 0.96

00:38:34.500 Heterosexual white people. 0.98

00:38:36.700 That's because we are the ones mercilessly grinding everyone else down. 0.98

00:38:42.600 This sort of thing has consequences.

00:38:45.420 There was a famous study by Anne Case and Angus Deaton.

00:38:48.680 They found that whites were dying of suicide, alcoholism and drug overdose at twice the black rate,

00:38:55.900 what they called deaths of despair.

00:38:58.720 They later reported that white death rates and only white death rates had risen so quickly

00:39:05.420 that life expectancy for the whole country fell three years in a row.

00:39:10.040 2015, 16, 17.

00:39:13.540 That was before COVID.

00:39:15.000 And each younger generation of whites was worse off than the generation before. 0.85

00:39:20.860 How many people committed suicide after watching videos like this?

00:39:25.920 I mean, I'm kind of joking a little bit, but yeah.

00:39:33.000 When the two researchers first tried to publish this, academic journals told them to get lost.

00:39:41.020 How dare you work on whites, professors under fire for researching white mortality?

00:39:47.660 That should have told them something.

00:39:50.440 But when Case and Deaton published a book, they called it Deaths of Despair and the Future of Capitalism.

00:39:57.280 Right, capitalism is the problem.

00:40:01.740 Not one word about the message that is preached from the White House on down, 1.00

00:40:07.200 that white people are a scourge. 0.99

00:40:09.880 Not one hint that some of those whites might be getting the message 1.00

00:40:13.920 and drinking themselves to death or overdosing or shooting themselves. 0.98

00:40:18.320 How do you solve them? 0.97

00:40:21.180 Don't you think late capitalism is much more important to causing white deaths of despair 1.00

00:40:30.800 than like angry black academics? 0.99

00:40:36.740 Oh, absolutely. 0.97

00:40:40.400 You know, I mean, I mean, look.

00:40:42.320 Capitalism is to blame for most of our problems right now.

00:40:44.920 Yeah, I mean, I there was a point where our cup overfloweth and there was just so much money

00:40:54.500 going around that it was this capitalism was this kind of egalitarian machine.

00:41:00.580 It was creating a massive middle class and so on.

00:41:04.640 And that seems to be breaking down.

00:41:08.920 And those those tick tock videos of women who like, you know, are working a retail job

00:41:15.500 and they can't make it basically.

00:41:20.020 I mean, isn't that getting at something important?

00:41:24.380 Like, you know, medical bills being the primary cause of bankruptcy?

00:41:29.880 I mean, isn't this whole system, which, to be fair, functioned pretty effectively in the 20th century?

00:41:41.460 Like, isn't this the cause of despair much more than like angry black lady at Berkeley? 0.99

00:41:51.360 It's just you got to get a causation.

00:41:53.420 Yeah, capitalism is to blame for a lot.

00:41:59.020 And I think I get a lot of heat from conservatives in general.

00:42:01.780 Like, I'm not a conservative, but automatically they think I'm right wing.

00:42:06.280 I'm conservative.

00:42:07.680 Like, I favor a single payer health care system because it's tremendously beneficial to white people. 0.98

00:42:13.480 But we also can't have it in a country like the United States is right now because it'll be absolutely overwhelmed.

00:42:20.600 Basically, capitalism as an idea, it seems okay.

00:42:27.840 And then it's brutally manipulated by people with very bad intentions.

00:42:33.120 And people are just left out in the cold.

00:42:35.620 Like everyone I know with problems in their life, they're all money problems.

00:42:41.200 And they're working.

00:42:42.780 They can't survive.

00:42:43.940 Like, there used to be a time when you could work a kind of entry-level job and live.

00:42:52.600 You wouldn't be going on vacations all the time.

00:42:55.460 You'd be budgeting and you couldn't live.

00:42:59.800 I know people making 50 grand a year right now, which isn't a lot of money by any means,

00:43:05.420 but they can't survive. 0.84

00:43:06.780 I think the angry black woman got him. 1.00

00:43:16.880 You popped out there. 0.87

00:43:18.360 Yeah, Mike has struggled a bit with Wi-Fi.

00:43:22.060 So we'll just, I assume he's hearing this, though.

00:43:25.300 So we'll just move on.

00:43:27.440 I can hear you.

00:43:28.220 When I started American Renaissance 34 years ago, things weren't so bad.

00:43:38.100 I thought the country could be set back on track.

00:43:41.460 Not anymore.

00:43:42.980 I can still live here.

00:43:44.700 I see through the anti-white propaganda. 0.50

00:43:47.520 I can even laugh at its absurdities.

00:43:50.360 You probably can, too.

00:43:51.600 Even though the dangers of multiracialism, both physical and psychological, get worse 1.00

00:43:58.020 every year, the fortunate among us can still pick our ways through them.

00:44:03.600 We shouldn't have to be the fortunate ones.

00:44:07.160 No white person should have to live under an occupation government, mental, psychological,

00:44:13.380 and moral occupation.

00:44:15.800 All my life, I've watched the United States degenerate.

00:44:19.740 It's no longer my country, and it can't be saved.

00:44:24.300 I do not believe that it can ever again become a home for white people. 1.00

00:44:30.280 Any lefty who heard me say that would start roaring about white privilege and how we benefited

00:44:36.220 from slavery, and then end up basically admitting, we're lucky we don't have all our throats slit.

00:44:43.160 Can you think of a realistic way to take America back, as Republicans keep saying?

00:44:50.200 It can't be taken back.

00:44:53.020 It doesn't matter who's elected president this year, or four years from now, or 40 years

00:44:58.800 from now.

00:44:59.540 It's over.

00:45:01.220 We can't take the whole country back.

00:45:04.080 We'll have to settle for something less.

00:45:07.640 Here's what we're up against.

00:45:09.140 In the Atlantic last year, Trumpism is the last gasp of a dying culture of white supremacy.

00:45:17.640 The guy who orders the government not to teach that any race is inherently superior to any

00:45:23.820 other is the last gasp of white supremacy.

00:45:27.920 Can he not see this? 0.91

00:45:31.860 First off, I don't fully disagree that Trump is the last gasp of white supremacy.

00:45:42.560 I might disagree here and there, but clearly it's coming from a background of demographic

00:45:51.680 change.

00:45:52.600 That's the background cause for Trumpism.

00:45:55.680 There are other aspects to it. 0.95

00:45:57.300 In fact, Trumpism seems to be moving towards a weirdly multiracial hate women, hate the 0.97

00:46:07.940 left cult, conspiracy cult.

00:46:11.520 But I don't think that sentence is that off.

00:46:17.180 Again, he wants his old liberalism back of how could you call Donald Trump a white supremacist

00:46:26.720 when he was just trying to pull the reins on black supremacists or female supremacists 0.99

00:46:34.780 or gay supremacists. 0.99

00:46:35.780 You can't have your old liberalism back. 0.96

00:46:41.520 We can't go back to that decade where that advertisement that was put in by his video

00:46:48.100 editor, I assume, of like, that was probably an advertisement for Chevrolet or something,

00:46:53.000 this like happy white family.

00:46:55.280 That was at a point where they were selling you goods on the basis of family values.

00:47:00.340 And many companies still do this.

00:47:02.900 In fact, lots of them, most of them on some level.

00:47:06.340 Coca-Cola is white excellence.

00:47:08.560 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:09.440 And I say this as someone who actually likes Coke.

00:47:13.440 Mexican Coke, ironically.

00:47:15.740 I also like Mexican Coke.

00:47:20.160 But it's like, that was a dream.

00:47:24.120 That was like a capitalist advertising campaign.

00:47:27.960 And none of those people in that picture have any sort of white consciousness.

00:47:35.700 Like, they're just oblivious to the world.

00:47:39.940 And they're just enjoying their vacation, which is fine for most people.

00:47:43.620 But like, let's understand what that is.

00:47:46.300 Do you want to say something?

00:47:57.580 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:57.960 My earbuds just fell out of my ears.

00:48:00.000 That's why I didn't speak up a second before you started.

00:48:02.780 But I wanted to agree with you that, in a way, Trump's first campaign was indeed the last gasp of white supremacy.

00:48:13.080 And it was this sort of Republican values-based, like, the whites are better because we understand libertarianism.

00:48:21.020 And once we teach it to the blacks, they're going to get on our side. 1.00

00:48:24.560 And we can all live in a basically white-coded capitalist super state. 0.94

00:48:31.540 But now that has failed.

00:48:34.280 And I wanted to say this earlier.

00:48:38.020 But, I mean, it's my belief that the Republicans are turning to the sort of multi-ethnic, you know, off-white, brownish, conservative movement they're creating now. 0.97

00:48:48.360 Because white people are too smart for Republicanism.

00:48:51.860 They shouldn't appeal to us. 0.99

00:48:53.720 Even if they aren't white consciously, I think any self-respecting white person should see, you know, this idea of, like, debt slavery and working in a corporation run by smelly Indians. 1.00

00:49:09.180 And it's just like, ah, that's not for me. 0.97

00:49:10.680 That's really not what we were put here for.

00:49:13.080 Now, we should, we crave the chariots.

00:49:15.480 We have to go back.

00:49:17.040 Return.

00:49:18.620 Yeah.

00:49:19.060 It's a different country from people who think that.

00:49:25.620 Well, let's make it official.

00:49:27.920 Let us part amicably and go our own way.

00:49:32.040 There is no other solution.

00:49:34.040 Whether I live to see it or not, there will be an in-gathering of our people on this continent, and we will finally succeed in building a new home in North America for Europeans and their civilization.

00:49:49.680 White people deserve to live in a country that does not tell them that they are dirt. 0.99

00:49:54.820 Again, just like mid-century liberalism. 0.98

00:50:02.680 Is that too much to ask?

00:50:05.820 No.

00:50:06.600 It's something every people, everywhere deserves. 0.95

00:50:09.360 First off, it's like, by your own assessment, if whites, even if they offered the white ethnostate in, like, the nicest possible way, they would be slaughtered by the evil federal government. 0.85

00:50:30.960 So, this is a pretty bold, it's not, like, they're going to let you, the government is going to let you be a white nationalist.

00:50:47.300 Now, I get it, you know, like, the FBI might knock on your door and you're going to get fired from your job.

00:50:53.840 I get all that, but they're not just going to kill you, and they are going to deliver the mail, and your electricity will work if you are just an outright white nationalist, etc.

00:51:08.040 Like, those people, I don't know, Blood Tribe or whatever, like, I saw on Twitter this morning, they did another rally in North Dakota or something.

00:51:16.980 So, like, they're allowed to exist.

00:51:20.940 Actually, reducing the footprint of the American state, I would hazard that they would kill you for doing that. 0.99

00:51:34.580 You would be killed very quickly. 1.00

00:51:38.460 You would absolutely be killed quickly. 0.97

00:51:40.940 It's, what Jared Taylor is talking about is, one, it's defeatist.

00:51:47.420 We built this entire nation.

00:51:50.100 I don't want to give it up and go live in a little corner of America and be like, oh, you guys just have this.

00:51:56.620 And two, it's, while I do agree with him that America is done, in the sense that what we knew,

00:52:05.460 and our current political system, moving forward, it is not going to work.

00:52:10.940 So, if you look at America as our government and our system and stuff, yes, it's completely failed at this stage.

00:52:18.720 And I don't, there's no way to vote our way out of it.

00:52:21.600 No matter who we vote for, it's not going to be here long.

00:52:26.580 But it's also, like, how do you segregate?

00:52:30.120 How do you just move away? 0.98

00:52:32.460 And like you were saying, the government will kill you.

00:52:36.380 If I said, I'm going to buy up a bunch of land, and I'm going to make a white commune. 0.99

00:52:46.240 And if there was more than, like, a dozen people or so moving there, the government is going to get involved. 0.99

00:52:53.580 And they're going to, in turn, arrest you or kill you.

00:52:57.940 So, I don't see any way to create just this peaceful white colony and step away. 0.98

00:53:06.800 You can't do it.

00:53:07.720 You're allowed to have the views.

00:53:09.400 So, that's a white commune.

00:53:12.380 Scientology?

00:53:12.780 That's true.

00:53:13.400 That's a good point.

00:53:14.180 Yeah, that's a white commune. 0.52

00:53:15.560 They basically did it.

00:53:16.520 Well, but they didn't, they only, Scientology only was, like, regularized when the government was, like, okay, if you'll be a 501c3 and, you know, create this weird Hollywood cult.

00:53:32.140 The white race is a 501c3. 1.00

00:53:34.360 I just think, well, first off, the, I mean, outside of some, like, things fall apart, outside of some truly political degeneration situation, I think you would be killed for doing what he's saying.

00:53:58.460 Now, is a, might we enter political disintegration?

00:54:02.360 That's obviously possible.

00:54:04.580 It's happened before, many times.

00:54:07.000 So, it's obviously possible.

00:54:11.400 But, yeah, but we have to recognize that his inclination.

00:54:15.360 Oh, sorry, you're roboting there, Mike.

00:54:19.200 We have to recognize.

00:54:20.300 Yeah.

00:54:22.340 Yeah, there, a lot of roboting.

00:54:24.100 Okay.

00:54:25.000 I might have to mute you.

00:54:26.220 Sorry.

00:54:30.140 I'm sorry, Mike.

00:54:31.280 Like, I had to, oh, I can't, I can't mute because I'm, oh, no.

00:54:37.540 I don't know if you can hear us, Mike.

00:54:39.460 There you go.

00:54:40.460 Sorry.

00:54:40.900 There was some heavy roboting going there.

00:54:42.720 So, okay.

00:54:44.640 But I would take this further and say that, like, getting, getting in touch with real causation is also getting in touch with the theory of what you're doing going forward.

00:55:02.600 So, if you can understand why America and the West ended up here, and I think there's economic reasons, to be sure.

00:55:13.840 But I think it's fundamentally spiritual.

00:55:17.500 Excuse me.

00:55:19.620 Then you could start to understand how you could develop a society that won't become like this.

00:55:27.020 Because I guarantee you, with, because Jared Taylor, he's not talking about white people in general.

00:55:35.140 There are a lot of white liberals who wouldn't want to join this new community wherever it would arise, like in the Alabama suburbs or something.

00:55:44.240 They would say, no, hell no, I want to live in these DEI, multiracial, liberal institutions, that I'm going to play the game and try to stay on top, and I believe in this, it's meaningful to me, etc.

00:55:59.060 But even if you thought that, like, these good Republican voting whites could go start their sovereign nation, why would you believe that it wouldn't become the exact same thing as America is right now?

00:56:22.020 Unless you fundamentally get your hands around causes, why, who, what, how this happened, did this, and how this happened.

00:56:33.540 You need to examine that.

00:56:35.360 You can't just endlessly complain about anti-white people at universities or in the government.

00:56:42.400 I get it.

00:56:43.160 I don't disagree with that observation, but you have to understand why they act like that.

00:56:50.380 Are they just inherently wicked, or is there something else going on?

00:56:56.840 And if you can't assess that, then you're starting a new country is just meaningless.

00:57:04.580 Because it's going to end up exactly the same.

00:57:09.800 I mean, just to use one example, because I was thinking about this in the suburbs of Alabama.

00:57:14.240 Like, the South itself was totally based from a Jared Taylor perspective.

00:57:25.080 They were segregationists.

00:57:26.440 They didn't want their young daughters fraternizing with black people. 1.00

00:57:30.420 They didn't want them drinking at the same water fountain, you know, notoriously.

00:57:34.700 And through a number of mechanisms, I actually think sports should not be underestimated as a mechanism for this transformation.

00:57:46.920 The South became institutionally integrated.

00:57:51.700 Still segregated in terms of, like, where you go to church, where you live in the burbs.

00:57:57.280 There are no mega churches where you can go where people are singing the praises of the Aryan race. 0.98

00:58:12.380 They're singing the praises of Israel.

00:58:14.260 Or they're singing the praises of, you know, black overcoming to a new world where we children are hand in hand, you know, with barbecues and the American flag and love and togetherness.

00:58:27.440 You live in a world where an Alabama white, you know, who wears polo shirts and Ray-Bans and is totally, the frat boys who supported Israel recently, will support Israel. 0.62

00:58:46.840 They will also worship black football players.

00:58:49.600 So there's something in America that leads towards this.

00:58:58.340 And if you're not going to examine what that is, then what is the point of creating your new country?

00:59:08.440 Jared Taylor is, in my view, very desperate for some sort of, like, new country he can move to or something.

00:59:18.240 Because I don't think he is, he knows that he is not willing or able to create any sort of relevant cultural change.

00:59:28.020 Like, the response to this is we need some sort of new cultural orientation for white people that's going to make them better. 0.84

00:59:36.780 All right?

00:59:37.440 He knows he can't create that.

00:59:39.020 You know, some old, bitter man is not going to, like, convince the young people to retry center-right libertarianism.

00:59:49.460 And it'll work this time.

00:59:51.360 That's not going to happen.

00:59:53.000 But I don't think he's willing to give up that cultural lens to view the world with.

00:59:58.240 So, you know, I think his dream is some angry white people start a new country somewhere in the U.S.

01:00:05.700 And he can just go there and he can be their new leader and teach them how to do free market economics properly or whatever it is.

01:00:14.600 Or just kind of live in a gated community, in effect.

01:00:18.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:19.160 I'm sure if there was a big, if there was a gated community that had a mall and a movie theater inside of it, he would be fine.

01:00:25.520 He wouldn't need his new country anymore.

01:00:28.020 That would be the new implicit, you know, white culture. 0.74

01:00:38.760 Anyway, I've told Jared this.

01:00:41.440 He just doesn't...

01:00:44.440 He's kind of unable to engage in that sort of dialectic where you could move beyond this.

01:00:52.760 Because I don't, again, I don't think most people would really disagree with a lot of his basic observations.

01:01:07.360 But it's going the next step and asking why and how and what would this new order be based on.

01:01:18.660 That's kind of like the hard work.

01:01:21.240 And if you don't want to do that, you're not going to get anywhere.

01:01:26.400 And doing that is going to kind of alienate you from a lot of these white people.

01:01:32.560 Anyway, does anyone want to add anything else or maybe even offer a defense of Jared, Colin?

01:01:55.360 I know that we've said this before, but his vision and people who share even anything similar to it, it's just completely contrary to the white nature. 0.99

01:02:06.600 I mean, we purposely go and live amongst other peoples in a hierarchy.

01:02:15.340 Like, that is all of white history. 0.91

01:02:17.360 It's just conquest and expansion and making the world abide by a system that we've created.

01:02:25.560 And you can look at the world and see that most countries, at least ostensibly, even if they're completely corrupt klepto states, at least say that they have a political system that they inherited from the British and the French. 0.85

01:02:41.860 And it's like, we went to Africa and Asia at no point, except for now, because we're so spiritually dead, as you've said, have we ever wanted to just live like that?

01:02:56.920 Like, we've always gone and sought, you know, new places, new people.

01:03:04.400 And so that's what's really, I mean, yeah, there is no ultimate solution in anything that he presents that is going to avoid the same degeneration that led to his lament in the first place, as you've said.

01:03:19.740 But also, as you've said many times, it's like, that's just not the white spirit that never has been. 0.86

01:03:25.720 It's so, it's just, it's just so gay. 1.00

01:03:31.460 Yeah. 0.82

01:03:41.120 Does anyone else want to?

01:03:42.900 Yeah, go ahead.

01:03:43.800 Yeah, I would wonder, maybe you can ask him next time you guys are at the secret alt-right meeting where you all talk to each other.

01:03:54.560 I don't think I'll ever see Jared Taylor again, actually.

01:03:57.860 I mean, in a way, sadly, I don't dislike him personally, but there's so much, like, bitterness and the alt-right kind of ruined any sort of relationship.

01:04:10.360 It was, it was very, ah, it's very weird.

01:04:14.920 But, um, but, you know, it, it is what it is.

01:04:19.060 Right.

01:04:19.820 But go on, you were about to say something.

01:04:21.300 Yeah, I, I would wonder if, like, what does this nation do?

01:04:25.940 Like, are we going to reconquer all of our white homelands and, you know, bring white paradise to them? 1.00

01:04:34.220 Or does he envision, like, the city on the hill thing, like every other Republican, where we're going to sit down in the slightly larger version of the gated community, and then people will see how awesome we are, and they'll just change.

01:04:48.880 Yeah.

01:04:49.060 Like, you know, that might be a nice, I don't think anything like a revolution to have a miniature white state somewhere in America would ever work. 0.92

01:04:58.640 I don't think it's practical or smart, but, you know, it could be a nice idea if the next thing was, and then we develop nukes and invade everyone else.

01:05:10.980 But I doubt he's very interested in that.

01:05:14.800 No, no, no, I, I, I think he would, he would reject that.

01:05:18.240 I mean, he's, he even is claiming that a, um, uh, a, a, a, an amical divorce, it would be like the, um, Czechoslovakia, the 1990s, just like, we were just like, oh, hey, let's just, yeah, let's just go our own way kind of thing.

01:05:37.300 Um, chat off Rizler.

01:05:43.720 Hello.

01:05:44.520 Can you hear me all right?

01:05:46.480 Yes.

01:05:48.240 Okay, so I agree with your take that Jared's whole worldview is problematic short-term and long-term, and it's cucked.

01:06:03.780 And, but I would say you and Nick Flint has, like, white separatism and, like, national divorce, and I've kind of,

01:06:16.280 called it, like, called it, like, cucking, which it, I think the way Jared is, but I do think that there could be a tactical advantage to having, like, it's like a tactical retreat, almost.

01:06:31.680 In that if you look at how Jews kind of leverage their having their own state, they're able to use, like, tax and the education system to kind of develop all of these radicals that can then go out into the world and act in the interest of Jews in this very organized way while having this hub that they could kind of operate out of, like a, like a headquarters. 0.93

01:06:58.280 And, like, I would, if I had the ability to kind of, you know, lay out my idea, it would be kind of, it would be nice to have something like that, while not necessarily just forfeiting everywhere else, but kind of like having a hub where white people can speak to each other and amongst each other and have our own, develop our own ideas and reorient ourselves. 0.54

01:07:26.280 ourselves. And then, you know, from there, we could do different things, right? We could explore.

01:07:32.920 We have this already. It's called the temperate zone. It's where all the whites are, right? Literally a huge ring around the world. We live and we're still majority white and we could talk to each other. 0.97

01:07:44.040 I don't see fantasizing about, like, a single, a new state like that would be, like, necessary. Just move to Alaska. Move anywhere up north. Go to New Hampshire. That's racially pure. It's even libertarian. It's already its own state.

01:08:02.840 Yeah, we had these hubs and they became this. So, you're still begging the question, which is, how are we going to orient the world and the 21st century and beyond?

01:08:14.000 Like, I somewhat agree with the idea of having a hub. It would be nice if people who are sort of like us could gather in a sort of collective geographic zone somewhere in the United States.

01:08:29.140 But that would exclusively be for creating a hub to start a cultural movement, right?

01:08:36.980 This idea of nationhood.

01:08:38.600 And also, like, you know, what we've learned in a way is, like, isolation, like, bill or generates delusion.

01:08:51.020 You know, like, if you go, you know, there's the temperate zones or moving to Alaska or Wyoming or Montana or whatever.

01:09:00.480 There's also, like, going into a suburb in Dallas and shopping at Neiman Marcus or some Alabama suburb.

01:09:11.620 But, like, is that, are you going to be more or less likely to change the world by going to this safe zone, like a safe space?

01:09:24.120 I think you're going to be a lot less likely.

01:09:28.020 Well, if we have, like, a safe space, you could, I think, control media there.

01:09:33.360 And I know that you say that we've had these areas before, but if they're not really formalized or, like, acknowledged, like, explicitly out in the open.

01:09:41.120 They were formalized, though.

01:09:42.940 We used to not let non-whites immigrate to the United States.

01:09:45.740 It was formalized, right?

01:09:47.400 I don't think the German Empire was anything but a German Empire that was formalized.

01:09:53.020 Fell apart.

01:09:54.280 It's all gone now. 0.81

01:09:56.360 I would say that's because it's based off of Christianity, so it's useless to us anyway. 0.99

01:10:00.820 I would think that you're probably, I don't know if you're a pagan or not, or a REM theorist, or a Chad Apollonian like me.

01:10:10.600 But I'd assume that this idea is we're going to have, like, Christian morality in media.

01:10:17.700 We're going to ban porn.

01:10:18.940 We'll be based Catholic.

01:10:21.380 And we had that society for a long time.

01:10:24.500 And it failed us.

01:10:25.680 It was either, I mean, I'm making an argument.

01:10:32.040 Who is this guy who's, like, a libertarian theorist about the Constitution?

01:10:35.520 I'm forgetting his name at the moment.

01:10:37.580 But he made this just essential point.

01:10:40.380 He was an anarchist himself.

01:10:41.500 And he made this just essential point, which is that, you know, we are where we are now in terms of the development of socialism and the nation and even, you know, slavery to some extent or whatever.

01:10:57.660 So either the Constitution was feckless towards the growth of the modern state, or it facilitated the growth of the modern state.

01:11:11.900 But it's either or, because we are where we are.

01:11:16.660 So either Christian communities or Christian monarchies or, you know, happy homelands or whatever.

01:11:29.460 I remember that was done by Ramsey Paul, happy homelands.

01:11:32.500 Either those are weak and ineffectual vis-a-vis the triumph of liberalism, or, and this is actually what I believe, they facilitate the triumph of liberalism.

01:11:50.080 So at some point, you're begging the question.

01:11:54.420 Like, a hub is great, and it would be fun. 0.97

01:11:58.380 And it would be like summer camp, where we would all go and be like, oh, wow, look, there are no crazy black ladies screaming at us anymore. 1.00

01:12:07.600 Not that that's all that bad, but like, in 30 years, you are going to be exactly where we are right now. 0.59

01:12:16.840 If you do not change the spiritual outlook of Aryans, and thus change the spiritual outlook of the world. 0.65

01:12:27.900 I agree with you on that.

01:12:32.260 I would just say that, like, if you would, I wouldn't, if you were going to establish, like, a base, like, or a, you know, some area like that, you would, I wouldn't have the, the liberalism, I guess, would be like the kind of discussions you'd want to have, like, right off the bat.

01:12:47.420 That we can't run things the same way we were running things and expect to arrive in a different place.

01:12:52.540 I think, though, that, and I also don't necessarily think it's a given that you, the delusion would form if you're isolated from these people when, because we have the internet now, right?

01:13:04.300 Like, we could, if you're in an all-white area, you could see how things are in South Africa, and you could, well, if we bring them here, that would happen again. 0.99

01:13:13.200 I don't think, I think the delusion formed because the media painted them in the best possible light and shamed and brainwashed people into, you know, this, you know, individualism.

01:13:24.820 Yeah, back when we were more Christian and conservative, all right?

01:13:28.520 Well, I also, yeah, Africans, as it were, have always been running around with pointy sticks and eating each other. 1.00

01:13:34.820 So when we were bringing them in the first time with the based Reagan Republicans, or I don't know when exactly sort of bring those shit out, we'll just say based Reagan Republicans because they dislike them, all right? 0.95

01:13:45.920 The, the based conservative, you know, rational governance sort of people, all right, they also saw the people eating each other and running around with pointy sticks and decided, ah, we'll bring them in, it'll be fine. 0.80

01:14:03.000 All right, so what, what is new here in this society that, that blocks this?

01:14:10.920 Because seeing that Africans aren't good at Western civilization obviously isn't new because they've never been good at Western civilization. 1.00

01:14:19.880 They've never been able to trick us into believing they were good at it.

01:14:22.800 That's why we put them all on welfare immediately.

01:14:26.820 I mean, this was before germ theory and before the discovery of DNA, though, to be fair, isn't it?

01:14:33.000 So we, we also, like we, it's not a, we understand biologically that they're different now.

01:14:39.460 No, they probably thought they were more biologically different back then.

01:14:44.340 They didn't even consider them human back then.

01:14:46.540 You used to be able to charter hunting parties to go to Africa and shoot pygmy Africans. 1.00

01:14:52.040 You can't do that anymore now, can you? 0.88

01:14:53.640 We have to pretend they're just like us, all right?

01:14:57.020 They were probably, without your scientific genetics, far more based and racist than you are now with, you know, DNA and germ theory.

01:15:05.400 That's fair enough.

01:15:07.540 So now, if we had like this Apollonianism or REM theory, if that became more mainstream, would you see the benefits of having like a central hub that, then?

01:15:19.120 Sure.

01:15:20.380 Yeah, and somewhere that's culturally relevant.

01:15:23.860 No offense to Montana.

01:15:25.200 But like, you, you have to put it somewhere in a population zone with at least a few thousand people.

01:15:34.200 Well, we, we do have a million, but I, I understand your point.

01:15:37.840 It's like a million and like a empty field.

01:15:41.520 We have 7 million cows and 1 million human beings, by the way.

01:15:45.860 Um, I, yeah, I mean, I, I, I, I obviously think we should be creating civilization.

01:15:53.000 You know, like the hub should be in Rome or Boston or Berlin or Paris or something.

01:16:01.820 Uh, just the, the, the, the happy homeland idea is, I, I, I do.

01:16:08.560 I mean, again, I say this as someone who lives in a happy homeland, but I, I, I find the happy homeland idea just to be, um, totally toxic.

01:16:17.400 I mean, it's, it's not who we are.

01:16:19.620 It's, it's like desiring to be naive. 0.99

01:16:22.720 Well, it's, it's Christianity sort of muzzling the, the area with that really dumb, boring, suburban lifestyle. 0.99

01:16:34.760 We'll, we'll put it this way. 0.99

01:16:36.260 All right.

01:16:36.700 Apollonianism will thrive in places where they have walkable streets.

01:16:41.440 Yeah.

RadixJournal - June 12, 2024

Happy Homelands

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