RadixJournal - New Year's Gifts

00:00:00.000 Richard, you're muted.

00:00:01.240 I don't know if you're trying to talk.

00:00:03.940 Hello.

00:00:04.900 Can everyone hear me?

00:00:07.000 Yes.

00:00:08.080 Good.

00:00:09.280 Boomer moment.

00:00:11.960 Correct.

00:00:13.100 How is everyone doing?

00:00:15.920 Good.

00:00:16.680 Happy New Year, everyone.

00:00:18.640 Yes.

00:00:18.900 Happy New Year.

00:00:19.820 John.

00:00:21.000 Happy New Year.

00:00:23.100 So I don't know if I'm going to make it to midnight on the West Coast.

00:00:27.080 I don't know if that was the plan.

00:00:28.300 No, no, no, no.

00:00:30.280 I actually have to go eat dinner with the family.

00:00:34.120 Just going to grant myself a cigarette on New Year's Eve.

00:00:37.600 Haven't smoked one at each in a while.

00:00:40.060 But, you know, you have to indulge a little bit.

00:00:43.420 No, I have to go in about two hours.

00:00:46.000 Maybe I'll save this once things start to get interesting.

00:00:49.580 I have to go in about two hours to eat dinner with the family.

00:00:55.560 My sister and friends are up here, and we're kind of doing a lot.

00:00:59.740 It's been interesting.

00:01:01.780 There really hasn't been much snow at all.

00:01:07.160 It's been remarkably dry.

00:01:09.000 I don't, I've never seen anything like this.

00:01:12.900 I mean, I've heard someone said it's like the driest it's been in 30 years.

00:01:17.340 So I went skiing once over the holiday with my son, and it was pretty remarkable.

00:01:24.020 It was usually around this time, you know, there's tons of snow and powder, but the mountain is not even open.

00:01:30.260 And you have to kind of pick your way down.

00:01:33.260 It's pretty, it wasn't quite as bad as I thought it might be, but it is very unusual.

00:01:39.680 But it's actually snowing right now, just a little bit, though.

00:01:43.740 So hopefully something will happen.

00:01:46.640 Ul, the Norse pagan god of snow.

00:01:49.300 Maybe that's actually why this happened, because all of this coincides with my, with our publishing that article on Norse paganism.

00:01:58.360 You're being punished.

00:01:59.100 Yeah.

00:02:00.060 There's even a god of skiing, I think, in Norse myth as well.

00:02:02.980 I'm forgetting his name.

00:02:04.400 But yeah, there hasn't been a lot of snow around here either.

00:02:08.620 Nowhere across the country.

00:02:09.800 So it's, it's like El Nino.

00:02:11.780 So it's a particular weather system in La Nina.

00:02:18.700 And they're just these cycles that involve the, like, I don't know, both the oceans, I'm sure, and all sorts of things.

00:02:28.540 So supposedly nowhere, nowhere in the country has gone in snow.

00:02:31.740 So it's, it's very odd.

00:02:33.600 You were going to say the global warming hoax.

00:02:36.320 Well, I don't know.

00:02:40.420 Yeah.

00:02:40.840 I mean, it's not, I, I, that's not something I have studied very closely, the global warming controversies.

00:02:50.760 Um, uh, my father was a scientist though, in a related field, um, and a kind of leader in a related field.

00:02:58.360 And, uh, I remember him, this was a while ago though.

00:03:01.860 He's pat, he's since passed away, but, um, he said that, um, he thought it was bullshit and he was a kind of leading person in this field. 0.98

00:03:09.840 What did he think was bullshit? 0.99

00:03:11.040 The man-made quality of it? 0.98

00:03:13.440 The idea that we could fix it or climate change or the fact that it's happening?

00:03:20.920 Climate change is, I mean, that's a known phenomenon, of course.

00:03:23.980 Yeah.

00:03:24.440 There've been ice ages and so forth, right?

00:03:27.040 So we know that the climate is not, hasn't been consistent, consistent through all periods, but, uh, yeah.

00:03:32.860 So I guess the main, the man-made element of it, but, um, my mom would later say that he gave it some credence later on.

00:03:41.780 So I guess she had some conversation with him about it.

00:03:44.620 I mean, I only had, um, one or two conversations with him about it.

00:03:47.980 So maybe he changed his view, but I don't know.

00:03:50.420 I think that he might've also, I don't know.

00:03:52.900 He might've also been being diplomatic with my mom or something.

00:03:56.720 I don't know. 0.88

00:03:58.900 Uh, but I, I remember I, uh, when it was becoming a thing, he was sort of like, this is, this is horseshit or whatever. 0.98

00:04:06.180 Or there was an element of, uh, bullshit at least. 0.99

00:04:11.420 I, I don't doubt it. 0.67

00:04:12.500 And there's also like a great deal of, uh, group think that goes on with these things and you get funding for, you get grants basically based on this.

00:04:21.540 And, and, and, you know, to fight.

00:04:24.400 Yeah.

00:04:25.080 Essentially.

00:04:26.160 Yeah.

00:04:27.100 And it, it's self-serving on the part of climate change deniers to deny it because they are, you know, being funded by big oil or, or whatever.

00:04:38.880 And, or they just want free capitalism everywhere.

00:04:44.160 Uh, so I think they're self-serving, but then the people promoting it are also self-serving and they've also made these, um, claims that just, I don't know.

00:04:56.440 I mean, uh, 20 years ago, it was, you know, we've got 20 years and it just starts to ring very hollow after they keep doing that.

00:05:08.360 Um, the, I mean, I remember talking, I've talked with some true believers.

00:05:13.000 I mean, again, this is just totally outside of my field, but I mean, I've talked with new believers who just genuinely believe that there's going to be catastrophe coming very soon.

00:05:24.020 And it probably did come from a certain religious desire for that catastrophe.

00:05:33.620 Um, yeah.

00:05:36.040 So, no, but you're, you're right to say that it's of course politicized on both sides of the, the climate change debate.

00:05:43.400 Um, so that's certainly the case, but, um, but I think it was more, it was earlier, uh, politicized on the left.

00:05:51.300 And then the right was kind of a reaction to it.

00:05:54.760 Yeah.

00:05:56.020 So, and yes, it's definitely, um, there's an interest in getting a grant money for research and so forth.

00:06:02.780 Right.

00:06:03.080 So it's incentivized, uh, from the left, from that perspective, from the right, it's more, yeah, it's, it's pandering to, uh, big oil and so forth.

00:06:11.920 Yeah, I mean, I just think it's, uh, really ill-conceived in the sense that it would be so much better to talk about, to, to change the words that are used, such as to discuss nature as opposed to discussing the environment.

00:06:28.760 So to, to talk about how we must protect nature and we need to have a connection with nature and we want nature to be beautiful and livable.

00:06:41.320 We don't want to pollute it.

00:06:42.620 We don't want these just, you know, endless stores of plastic bottles going in the ocean and, and polluting the ocean, drowning animal life, ruining the environment, even ruining the environment in the way that we participate it to participate in it.

00:07:00.660 I, I just think there's a lot of better ways it could have been done and it, it's, it's conceived in this kind of like, um, what's the right way of saying it?

00:07:12.680 It's conceived in this like quantitative way where it lends itself to doing things like, you know, carbon credit markets, et cetera, that are just clearly benefiting these, you know, big companies where, you know,

00:07:30.080 Goldman Sachs can create a market for carbon credits and companies can trade them and, you know, your pollution is worth this.

00:07:38.700 And so that's now a market value and you can, it's just, it's just awful when I think we should just have a vision for what we want to see in the world and implement it and talk about people's participation in nature,

00:07:54.880 as opposed to talking about like, you know, climate change is getting so bad.

00:07:59.640 It's going to destroy us all imminently, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:08:02.560 It just becomes old.

00:08:05.580 Um, hold on one second.

00:08:06.500 I'm just going to let my dog out.

00:08:11.380 Bert, what's the latest, uh, what time is it there in, uh, Australia?

00:08:16.260 It's, uh, just after 10 a.m.

00:08:18.520 So I'm coming to you from the future really.

00:08:20.500 And, uh, it's a whirlwind.

00:08:23.380 Yeah.

00:08:24.000 Yeah.

00:08:24.280 What happened?

00:08:25.620 Well, he's, he's talking to us from 2000.

00:08:27.940 Oh, I know.

00:08:28.420 I know.

00:08:28.780 I know.

00:08:29.160 Yeah.

00:08:30.620 From the future.

00:08:32.120 Nothing's really happened except, uh, the local city councils declared emergency weather warnings.

00:08:37.820 So we might be guessing, um, in keeping with the climate change theme for just a moment.

00:08:43.020 I was actually going to say on that point, probably to your work, Mark and Richard,

00:08:47.060 I think, uh, climate change would actually be, um, I'm not sure how time poor or otherwise

00:08:52.860 you are, but if you were to sit through some of the, um, paraphernalia, which is put out

00:08:58.340 there, I think would only add to your work because it is kind of a quasi leftist interpret.

00:09:06.260 I mean, some of the, like the, the language sort of gives them a way, um, to quote Daniel

00:09:11.700 Dennett, because so much of it is sort of like quasi religious or sort of outright religious.

00:09:17.220 Um, it may be not quite in keeping with Christianity, but in certain respects it is.

00:09:22.740 I think there's almost like an out of Eden theme in a lot of their language, like previous

00:09:27.100 to capitalism and the industrial revolution, uh, revolution we were in Eden.

00:09:31.640 And now we've departed because we've sort of obtained this satanic knowledge.

00:09:36.060 Like it does sort of flow from that without having to extrapolate too far and wide to get

00:09:41.620 to those points.

00:09:42.260 But along with sort of quasi followers also, like I remember, um, everyone was heaping 0.75

00:09:48.800 shit on Ellen DeGeneres where she was in front of this waterfall after a flood and she was 1.00

00:09:52.860 sort of off on this lunatic rant about how we've angered the gods and mother nature is angry 0.99

00:09:58.600 at us now, but it might be a rich field for you to step into for a few hours.

00:10:02.900 Cause there'd be some hilarious anecdotes you could honor.

00:10:06.960 Well, is it, is it Christian or pagan?

00:10:10.160 You know, conservatives always say that it's pagan, that they're worshiping mother earth

00:10:15.700 and et cetera, and, and kind of denying God, but you're, you, it would be technically

00:10:20.920 right.

00:10:21.740 Yeah.

00:10:23.220 But you were almost suggesting that there's a garden of Eden like quality to it.

00:10:27.480 And that there's this sin of industry that we're paying for and, and God is angry and

00:10:35.700 he's going to bring on the end times or something like that.

00:10:40.680 Yeah.

00:10:41.140 Well, a lot of its proponents originally in this, uh, 60s, 70s, 80s, from what I've sort

00:10:45.600 of looked back at were sort of original far leftist, you know, communists and stuff like,

00:10:51.160 like avid anti-capitalist that sort of used it to pile on against capitalism for what you

00:10:57.260 were just talking about.

00:10:57.980 I mean, for sort of like, you know, being right, right for the wrong reasons, I suppose,

00:11:04.480 but I'm going to add to climate change.

00:11:11.560 Yeah.

00:11:11.980 Anyway, once a year, no, no, no, keep talking.

00:11:14.780 I didn't want to interrupt you.

00:11:16.080 Well, that's all, that's all the material that I had prepared.

00:11:20.760 Okay.

00:11:20.980 So I've got nothing else.

00:11:23.300 My other topics are Barbie and, um, the state of footpaths and not a lot of else.

00:11:29.380 Okay.

00:11:30.140 This is one thing that I did want to talk about.

00:11:32.060 I don't want to spend, I don't, I don't want to spend too much time, uh, begging effectively,

00:11:42.040 but I, I do think that it's worthwhile, you know, going over what we did in 2023, what

00:11:53.500 we're doing.

00:11:54.300 Cause there's a lot that's just, it's like, these are horses chomping at the bit about

00:11:58.500 to get out or go on their race.

00:12:01.440 And, and then I, I want to talk a little bit about how you all can support this stuff and

00:12:09.960 become more participants about, you know, more, uh, lively participants that is in all

00:12:17.520 this.

00:12:17.900 So I didn't know what was going to happen when I first got started with Substack and I'm

00:12:24.300 I kind of avoided Substack to be honest.

00:12:27.120 So I had gone through just terrible trials trying to maintain anything because of post

00:12:36.700 2017, there was just a de-platforming war on and it just would not stop.

00:12:44.900 And I, I think it was 20, maybe it was 2019 when this Russian company came out that was

00:12:53.340 called Subscribestar and I still think Subscribestar exists to some, to, to some degree.

00:12:59.680 And they were promising, like, we, you know, we're not Patreon, you know, we are, we will

00:13:04.960 allow everyone, we love free speech.

00:13:06.960 And it was of course a Russian company doing this.

00:13:09.580 And we went on there for about two or three months and it went actually quite well, very

00:13:19.440 quickly.

00:13:20.400 So we got going and we had a few hundred people jump on board and, uh, I was very happy with

00:13:29.940 it.

00:13:30.100 And of course, some article was written and then the Subscribestar people just chickened

00:13:36.560 out effectively.

00:13:38.100 And I was just, you know, I don't know what to do.

00:13:42.100 And it's just, it continues to happen.

00:13:44.640 The, the leftist just won't leave us alone.

00:13:47.620 Uh, but what we did is we stuck with that initial group of people and we built a, a, just

00:13:55.520 a kind of consensual, but also off the beaten track, you know, way for us to have a sort of

00:14:02.820 subscription service in a way it was like this, but it was something that wasn't publicly

00:14:07.380 advertised.

00:14:08.460 And that went quite well.

00:14:10.660 Maybe I'm mixing up the years.

00:14:11.900 Maybe it was like 2020 when this happened or 2021.

00:14:14.560 I can't remember exactly.

00:14:16.220 And we would do calls like this.

00:14:19.760 We did some early, I think in early 2021, we, um, yeah, cigars for the new year.

00:14:25.540 Yes.

00:14:25.980 Uh, I actually, when I go up to eat dinner, we have some cigars up there as well.

00:14:29.900 So, uh, that will be fun.

00:14:32.260 And we, we got going.

00:14:36.920 We even did some early stuff.

00:14:39.140 Like, um, I remember reading over a, uh, 10 week period.

00:14:44.560 We actually read Plato's Republic and things like that.

00:14:48.220 So all of the, the things that I'm pushing towards now started then it's, it's interesting.

00:14:55.580 And it was in 2022 is March in 2022 that substack had by that time become a thing.

00:15:03.640 So there was a ton of people with substacks and, um, I, it was something that I didn't

00:15:10.100 exactly like because I saw the people dominating it being Glenn Greenwald.

00:15:15.900 And I, I just, it wasn't, uh, my favorite people, the early adopters were not my favorite people.

00:15:23.640 Let's just put it that way.

00:15:25.000 But I just decided that it's a platform, which is better than having a website.

00:15:32.560 And it's just always better.

00:15:34.720 So I got on and I put up some articles and we started to get subscribers and I was pleasantly

00:15:45.340 surprised, but it, it really did show that the platform is the thing, um, in order to

00:15:51.720 reach people.

00:15:52.620 And so I started putting more focus on that.

00:15:56.160 We kind of combined the group.

00:15:57.720 So we moved beyond what was the subscribe star.

00:16:00.820 We started having focus on substack and we're doing quite well.

00:16:06.320 Um, it's, it's making it able for us to have a salary effectively.

00:16:15.960 And to, um, even, you know, Alberto who started this call, I mean, he's getting paid a little

00:16:23.180 bit here and there and, um, it's, and he's going to relieve a lot of burden off me of,

00:16:30.500 of having to edit these calls, you know, edit them lightly, of course, but, you know, edit

00:16:34.260 them, put them up, describe them, et cetera.

00:16:36.980 And, you know, Alberto would love to do more as well.

00:16:39.960 So it's made a lot of things possible.

00:16:42.760 I do think, you know, knock on wood, fingers crossed.

00:16:46.540 I hate even saying it.

00:16:47.460 I do think that substack is going to be, um, they're going to be, they're serious about

00:16:53.340 free speech.

00:16:54.080 I also don't think that the spotlight is on me.

00:16:57.600 I think Antifa is not as obsessed about me, um, et cetera.

00:17:02.060 So I think we've survived a bit of the rough waves and we're in, um, calmer waters.

00:17:11.320 Although I hate even saying these things because I, uh, it seems like the moment you say that

00:17:17.680 that I'll be like emailing you all of, Oh, by the way, we've been deplatformed.

00:17:23.060 Yeah.

00:17:23.580 And I don't, I don't think we will be nor, nor of course, should we be, um, if, if we

00:17:28.960 get deplatformed now, that is just purely a, an attack on free speech.

00:17:35.080 We're doing intellectual activities.

00:17:38.240 We are being open about what we think and, uh, believe in sincerely.

00:17:45.660 Uh, again, any sort of, uh, there's no activism involved.

00:17:50.800 I mean, I could go on and on, but an attack on us would, would be absolutely unjustified.

00:17:57.080 Um, so there it is, but I mean, I would like this to be more I've, I, I don't, I mean, I,

00:18:08.940 I think doing exactly what we're doing, if we continue to do that for the next five years

00:18:16.200 or 10 years, I think that would be great.

00:18:18.660 Actually, I don't think that would be a failure of any sort.

00:18:22.920 And what I mean by that is that we continue to post, you know, some excerpts from the book.

00:18:29.040 We do two podcasts a week.

00:18:31.160 And then we also do Alex you courses where we develop these projects, you know, develop

00:18:35.700 these interesting courses.

00:18:36.900 We all read something together.

00:18:38.600 Mark or myself will present a lecture on it and then we will discuss it.

00:18:42.440 I think that is great.

00:18:43.700 And again, if that, if we continue to do that, then that's all fine.

00:18:48.100 But I do feel like, I mean, there are these endemic problems with the movement and I, you

00:18:54.360 know, I guess we're part of that movement on some level.

00:18:57.200 I don't really feel like it, but of, you know, personalities and I think that's fine.

00:19:04.160 I think if someone is contributing to discourse, that is excellent.

00:19:09.300 Uh, but then there are also these guys and I've seen dozens of them throughout my life where

00:19:15.240 they come out of the woodwork and they say, oh, we're going to get serious here and we're

00:19:19.980 going to, um, uh, start doing, um, political action or meeting up in the real world or something.

00:19:27.760 And these things fizzle after six months, maybe they last a year and a half, maybe longer,

00:19:33.760 but there's just no real there there.

00:19:37.340 There's a kind of call to action or call to pragmatism, but for no real reason.

00:19:44.220 And there's nothing you can plausibly say that you're going to accomplish, even if, you know,

00:19:50.180 someone threw a million dollars at you or something.

00:19:53.180 I believe I saw Sam raise his hand.

00:19:55.540 Maybe not.

00:19:56.320 If you want to speak, you can, but if not, I'll just keep flowing.

00:19:59.120 Okay.

00:19:59.980 Sorry.

00:20:00.180 I just meant to wave high.

00:20:01.620 Oh, wave.

00:20:02.620 Oh, you just waved and you didn't raise, excuse me.

00:20:04.620 He was merely raising his hand in a spirit of, uh, jubilation.

00:20:07.920 Oh, I see.

00:20:08.300 You were raising your hand that way.

00:20:10.380 Yes, I see.

00:20:11.420 Okay.

00:20:14.000 Well, salutations, uh, to you.

00:20:16.480 Um, so where was I?

00:20:19.220 So if we continue to do what you're doing, what we're doing right now, I think that would

00:20:24.640 be great.

00:20:26.260 And I'm, I'm definitely willing to do that, but I think it's important to have

00:20:31.980 bigger goals.

00:20:34.460 So we all have these big goals that are in effect dreams.

00:20:39.940 You know, we, we want to change the world.

00:20:42.240 We want to save America.

00:20:44.720 We want to change the rotation of the earth.

00:20:48.520 We want to solve climate change or, you know what I, these things are, are, are big dreams.

00:20:53.640 Maybe even the latter one was more realistic than the first three.

00:20:57.560 And I think it's good to have big dreams, but I,

00:21:01.980 it's also important to articulate and articulate those dreams in a way that they can be accomplished,

00:21:09.200 that they are real in this way.

00:21:12.660 And I think a lot of the, the problems with, you know, white nationalism, if we're going

00:21:19.280 to use that word is that there's no real, they're there.

00:21:22.580 There's no serious intellectual impulse or motive or school is maybe the best way outside

00:21:31.200 of being edgier than conservatives or outside of kind of vagaries like waking up the public

00:21:38.560 or saving America or saving France or whatever.

00:21:42.000 And I just don't think this, there has been a lot of money raised in the, for those things,

00:21:48.880 but I don't, there might as well not have been any money raised because it doesn't accomplish

00:21:53.960 anything and it never fundamentally will.

00:21:57.500 So I would suggest that what Mark and I are doing is fundamentally different in the sense

00:22:05.820 that there is there, there there's obviously the personalities, there's the, you know, ability

00:22:12.100 to look at the world and, and understand it and analyze it in, in important ways, of course.

00:22:18.640 But there are two things in the sense that REM analysis is a school of thoughts.

00:22:28.600 And this is something that's been brewing with Mark for some time.

00:22:34.200 It's been brewing for me for some time.

00:22:36.600 It is a way of thinking and a way of analyzing the world.

00:22:41.720 And that can lead to new, it generates new projects.

00:22:46.400 It leads to other things.

00:22:47.660 It can generate interesting controversies and disagreements of, in terms of analysis, et cetera.

00:22:57.360 It is like the formation of something like Platonism or Christianity or Protestantism or Marxism

00:23:06.640 or Nietzscheanism or Freudianism, Freudianism.

00:23:10.480 Now we might have various opinions on all of those isms I just mentioned, but what's essential

00:23:17.420 about those is that they're able by their own, the force of their thought, by their own force

00:23:24.040 of their thought, they're able to generate new material.

00:23:27.660 And so you can correctly understand someone as a Marxist or as a Christian or as a Protestant 0.53

00:23:34.000 or as a Platonist or as a Nietzschean, et cetera, et cetera.

00:23:38.380 And dare I say, I think we are doing something on that level.

00:23:45.240 It is a school of thought in the sense that there is a there there.

00:23:49.000 And to be honest, in terms of contemporaries and I don't really want to bash people here,

00:23:57.360 but there's no there there.

00:23:59.080 There's a kind of desperate call to action to save something.

00:24:04.380 There's critique, maybe to some degree, of existing political institutions, but often

00:24:10.900 that critique is better described as whining.

00:24:14.240 I do fundamentally think that what we're doing is different.

00:24:18.460 And to be honest, I wouldn't want to be involved in any of this if it weren't.

00:24:26.200 But I'm not terribly interested in much of anything else at this point.

00:24:36.040 I've done I've published some things that are I think are important in my life.

00:24:41.880 I've worked hard in them.

00:24:44.740 Some of the, you know, Ed Dutton's book on race is a very good example of a, you know, 0.99

00:24:53.180 excellent, accessible book that you can just hand someone.

00:24:55.760 It just discusses these matters very clearly and in some cases definitively.

00:25:02.980 It's it's done.

00:25:04.600 I don't really want to do it again.

00:25:07.480 I don't see that type of thinking leading anywhere outside of what has already been said.

00:25:13.340 And so I just don't have any interest.

00:25:17.520 It bores me.

00:25:18.500 I would do something else.

00:25:21.880 If that were the only path.

00:25:24.220 But I don't think it's the only path.

00:25:26.600 And I think what we're doing now can lead to ways of thinking five years from now, 20 years

00:25:33.460 from now, 100 years from now, et cetera.

00:25:35.100 It's bigger.

00:25:36.220 You know, in terms of dreams, I also think that Alex, you, which, again, is available

00:25:44.880 to all subscribers going forward, we'll be talking about what we're going to start doing

00:25:49.180 in January and onward.

00:25:51.560 Alex, you is.

00:25:53.200 Well, OK, first off, I just saw some.

00:25:55.940 Yeah, I'll need to turn off the chat because I'll look at it and then I want to say something

00:26:01.180 else.

00:26:01.880 Yeah.

00:26:02.260 The HPD stuff.

00:26:03.500 It's been done.

00:26:04.520 And someone is aristocrat was mentioning it.

00:26:06.380 HPD stuff.

00:26:07.220 It's been done.

00:26:08.840 I don't know what else needs to be said in these fields.

00:26:13.740 And I very it's very interesting to me that mainstream conservatives are now picking up

00:26:19.680 on it and just kind of like rehashing stuff that was said 40 years ago.

00:26:25.860 Good.

00:26:26.500 Good for them.

00:26:27.200 But it just doesn't need to be done anymore.

00:26:29.760 It's it's there.

00:26:31.400 We all know it.

00:26:32.280 Everyone's known all of this stuff since the beginning of time, in fact.

00:26:36.080 But anyway, they don't know what we talk about in terms of REM.

00:26:41.300 And they don't know or they certainly don't even comprehend or they can't even comprehend

00:26:50.020 what we're doing in terms of Apolloism, which is kind of like the positive thrust forward.

00:26:56.660 REM is, you could say, is negative.

00:26:59.460 It's an analytical tool.

00:27:02.240 Apolloism and actual spirituality is a thrust forward into the unknown and in something that

00:27:08.660 we should do very carefully and seriously.

00:27:11.180 So another goal of mine is to have an actual school, not just to be a school of thought,

00:27:21.760 but to have an actual school.

00:27:25.140 And I don't I don't think we should bother with any political stuff.

00:27:31.880 Activism. 0.62

00:27:32.960 We don't need to discuss in a way how useless it is.

00:27:36.600 Playing politics.

00:27:41.560 Can we play it better than others?

00:27:43.800 Like, are we going to create a lobbying arm and reverse immigration or whatever?

00:27:48.040 I just this kind of stuff is already done.

00:27:51.020 It's just not something I'm interested in.

00:27:52.940 It's not something I think is particularly worthwhile, etc.

00:27:56.420 So say, though, no, I mean, we'll we'll still and we do it mostly just for the entertainment

00:28:02.420 of you guys, because we know that people like, you know, news shows essentially on the DR.

00:28:09.380 So there is some entertainment value or people will take an interest in listening.

00:28:14.020 Oh, no doubt.

00:28:15.460 I'm not saying we're not going to talk about it.

00:28:17.720 Yeah.

00:28:18.120 But we kind of influence things in that way.

00:28:20.500 It is ultimately less interesting to us, but we know that it's interesting to our audience.

00:28:26.400 So it's interesting to me.

00:28:28.460 Yeah.

00:28:28.840 I mean, what I'm saying.

00:28:30.220 Yeah, I'm glad you put this in there, because what I'm saying is not that we aren't going

00:28:33.820 to talk about politics in a very serious way and think about it.

00:28:38.220 What I am saying is that, you know, are we do would I ever want to raise money for a lobbying

00:28:45.200 effort or something like that?

00:28:46.700 I don't know, maybe in the future.

00:28:48.940 But before we put a million dollars towards lobbying, we should have already dedicated

00:28:55.380 10 million dollars towards developing a intellectual school of thought, because the other thing

00:29:02.620 it's just you're you're playing a game that is going to be difficult to win and they're

00:29:09.160 all already good people there.

00:29:10.860 And what would we do anyway?

00:29:12.500 I don't know.

00:29:13.000 Lower taxes.

00:29:15.520 You know, it's I think it's.

00:29:18.560 Yeah, that's my opinion on on that kind of stuff of getting pragmatic and real is often

00:29:24.940 not very pragmatic at all.

00:29:26.640 Yeah, I guess I just I would, you know, back up with Richard saying I, you know, I definitely

00:29:36.060 anyone who's not a paying subscriber, I think he should.

00:29:40.940 I think he should become a paying subscriber, honestly.

00:29:43.980 And well, everyone here is a paying subscriber.

00:29:46.000 Oh, OK.

00:29:46.500 Is that true?

00:29:47.100 Well, yes, yes.

00:29:48.020 People hear this that are not paying subscribers, though, right?

00:29:51.120 Perhaps.

00:29:51.980 I think probably so if we're doing a pitch, right?

00:29:55.180 Right.

00:29:55.460 Well, no, no, I'm pitching even more.

00:29:58.220 I'm not pitching nine dollars for people.

00:29:59.860 Don't worry about that.

00:30:00.520 I get it.

00:30:00.940 I get it.

00:30:01.460 So I yeah, I pitched nine dollars for some people who have been longtime free subscribers

00:30:07.920 to try to knock them off the fence.

00:30:09.340 And I certainly hope they will.

00:30:11.080 I mean, the again, the recurring income just allows you to, like, think forward in a way

00:30:16.880 that yes, in a way that's just incomparable.

00:30:20.500 I mean, it's really a great thing.

00:30:21.820 And again, every month we get more subscribers.

00:30:25.380 It's about I would say on average, it's about one subscriber per day since we began.

00:30:31.860 And sometimes it blows up for reasons I don't have any understanding of.

00:30:36.620 And sometimes well, and there's churn, you know, you'll lose people.

00:30:39.880 They don't like it.

00:30:41.140 They whatever.

00:30:42.740 That's also fine.

00:30:43.900 It never goes down.

00:30:45.060 I would say that it always goes up.

00:30:46.740 And that is very good.

00:30:48.020 And if we keep at it and we keep working, we keep doing good work, it's going to keep

00:30:51.600 continue to go up and compound, et cetera.

00:30:54.200 So that's all all very good stuff.

00:30:56.180 We lose about 100 every time Rad Fem Hitler is on the podcast. 0.93

00:31:02.000 We don't actually, because they all secretly are in love with fantasy.

00:31:07.860 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:08.440 But anyway, I will put in the chat what, so we, I've created some just recurring donations

00:31:21.400 that are above and beyond what is, what you guys do with $9.

00:31:30.260 And so it's very simple.

00:31:33.660 It's 25 a month, 100 a month, 250 a month, 750 a month.

00:31:38.500 And so it's the gentleman, the scholar, the patron, and the hyperborean.

00:31:44.460 $9 a month, extremely affordable.

00:31:47.840 It's basically, I forgot what I said, two and a half cappuccinos or a glass of wine, an

00:31:54.220 appetizer, the price of an appetizer at a restaurant.

00:31:56.440 It's really not that much to ask.

00:31:58.140 And again, in numbers, it adds up.

00:32:00.800 These things that I've just put forward, it adds up even more.

00:32:04.880 25 bucks a month, you know, I spend that already.

00:32:08.800 If you can do more than that, then good on you.

00:32:11.920 If you're comfortable at nine, also good on you.

00:32:17.040 We totally get it.

00:32:21.400 But if you do want to do more and you are able to do more, then I really want you to.

00:32:29.260 So I'll just put it like that.

00:32:33.300 So what is...

00:32:35.780 I talked a little bit about Bigger Dreams.

00:32:37.540 I mean, what's coming up?

00:32:38.500 So we're already putting out the book for subscribers.

00:32:42.720 They get to read it early and also do help us with just basic copy editing.

00:32:47.060 That's been excellent.

00:32:48.360 That's going to just go forward in the new year.

00:32:50.920 So that's the main thing that we need to do is finally get it out.

00:33:00.140 And this has been four years of a lot of hard work.

00:33:08.520 I mean, a lot of hard work that Mark did before that.

00:33:11.860 It's been just a long-term thing.

00:33:14.160 I think the first article you ever published at Radix was 12 years ago.

00:33:18.660 So it's been a really substantial effort.

00:33:22.440 And it's gone through a ton of rearranging and rewriting, etc.

00:33:28.920 And we need to stop at some point.

00:33:31.120 But we also want to get it right.

00:33:33.040 And we know that it's going to be attacked.

00:33:35.660 So we need to have all our armies in place and so on.

00:33:42.800 The other thing is building off that.

00:33:46.060 The next three volumes that we have outlined.

00:33:52.040 Also, additional books that are supporting the theory in terms of a lot of the stuff we've already talked about with Alex Yu.

00:33:59.800 And so those are also kind of medium-term goals, you could say.

00:34:03.260 That is goals that are going to be accomplished.

00:34:04.960 We need some help to get there.

00:34:06.840 But it's all happening.

00:34:09.460 But I think it's important to think about these bigger picture things.

00:34:15.740 So one benefit, if you want to call it that, of giving it a higher rate is that we're going to start having a twice-monthly call.

00:34:32.800 And this is not going to be like these calls where we talk about politics and all that kind of stuff.

00:34:39.140 It's going to be just down to business.

00:34:41.140 What are we doing?

00:34:42.860 And where do we need help?

00:34:44.860 Where are we making mistakes?

00:34:46.840 Et cetera.

00:34:47.340 So we've had some of these in an informal way.

00:34:51.840 Kurt just said, yes.

00:34:52.680 We've had some of these in an informal way with Kurt and other people.

00:34:56.400 We're going to have them in a more scheduled way.

00:34:58.900 Because if you don't have a schedule, you're never going to do it, as we all know.

00:35:02.640 So the other thing is that in the past, it's been like six years at this point.

00:35:14.160 But I mean, I've hosted these big events, and there have been formal conferences.

00:35:17.980 People host conferences, and it is what it is.

00:35:21.920 Because I think one of my favorite conferences that I've hosted was just here in Whitefish over August, where so many of us got together and we had fun.

00:35:34.700 We've also had fun in Vegas a few times.

00:35:37.260 And there are just a lot of good things that are happening.

00:35:39.500 So what I think the way forward is to do things that are more laid back and casual on the one hand, but also more pragmatic on the other.

00:35:57.440 And also don't have registration fees, which is always good.

00:36:04.240 So basically, we're going to start doing these events coming up.

00:36:09.200 If you're in, you're in.

00:36:12.720 So if you're already...

00:36:15.660 Look, I understand how much it is to pay even $250 or $275 per year, even if it is kind of stretched out or whatever.

00:36:28.200 I understand how much it is to pay, I guess, $109 a year.

00:36:34.700 It's something.

00:36:36.820 And so it's real.

00:36:41.100 So we're going to start doing these events, no registration.

00:36:45.680 They're going to be fun.

00:36:47.780 And we're going to plan them at our business meetings and get everyone on the same page and then do them at a regular pace.

00:36:55.580 Again, it's about friendship, bonding, and it's also about thinking about the future and talking about what we're doing.

00:37:04.860 And there'll certainly be a lot of intellectual activities of talks and fun and things like that.

00:37:10.560 And this will just give you more input into them.

00:37:15.480 And it's a little bit special.

00:37:17.380 You're really part of it doing this.

00:37:22.060 And we won't need to vet anyone at some point.

00:37:27.420 Well, if you're a new person doing this, we'll definitely talk to you and do the usual vetting.

00:37:31.480 But I kind of want to get away from that.

00:37:33.780 Everyone's committed.

00:37:35.240 Everyone's on board.

00:37:37.000 We don't need to...

00:37:37.780 We know everyone.

00:37:39.880 That, I think, is just a better way forward.

00:37:42.360 And I think a lot of good things will come out of that.

00:37:45.960 So there's that.

00:37:47.660 But I guess the bigger issue is something we talked a little bit about in Whitefish.

00:37:53.260 And we've talked a little bit about here and there.

00:37:55.440 But I do think that we have a school and a school of thought.

00:38:04.620 But I think that having an actual school is my goal.

00:38:14.660 And it's not the goal of, you know, politics or saving the country.

00:38:24.080 It's not the goal of activism.

00:38:27.040 It's not the goal of, you know, taking over the world or something like that.

00:38:34.720 So that is some unreachable dream that is cloudy, to say the least.

00:38:40.640 It's a real thing that we can do.

00:38:44.460 And I think the Alex U is a very achievable and very casual thing in many ways.

00:38:52.480 You can show up for two hours, listen to me, you know, go off on My Love of Hamlet or Mark on Stanley Kubrick or whatever.

00:39:03.740 And we're going to do some interesting stuff coming up this year.

00:39:07.280 And that's great.

00:39:08.760 And that benefits you.

00:39:10.460 But I do think that ultimately moving to something that is in person and brick and mortar just has to be the direction that we go into.

00:39:21.060 It would offer a certain kind of prestige, for lack of a better word, substantial quality to what we're doing.

00:39:33.880 And other people are doing things like this.

00:39:36.900 There's the Austin University, which is kind of like neocon you with Niall Ferguson and his wife and, you know, Barry Weiss telling teaching you about liberal tolerance, etc.

00:39:53.080 That's I probably wouldn't attend to those things.

00:39:56.600 Maybe I would.

00:39:57.240 Maybe some Niall Ferguson might be fascinating on the right subject.

00:40:00.800 But I think it's a good and I have my criticisms of it, but I think it's ultimately a good thing.

00:40:08.880 And I think it's something that we're not exactly copying them.

00:40:12.300 We had the same idea.

00:40:13.700 But I think it's an idea whose time has come.

00:40:16.880 The current university system is a disaster.

00:40:19.560 And it's a disaster in all ways that I don't need to go into.

00:40:24.840 It's expensive.

00:40:26.520 It's radically politically correct.

00:40:29.380 It's wasted on the young. 0.94

00:40:31.960 You go when you're 18 to 20, like the precise time when you don't appreciate these things.

00:40:39.160 It's wasted on pragmatism in the sense of, you know, going to get a business degree so you can go work on Wall Street.

00:40:47.880 That's great, but that's not really what a university would be about.

00:40:53.820 And it's also wasted in terms of, you know, the big football school universities.

00:40:59.220 You're in a room of 300 people listening to someone's lecture.

00:41:03.960 You might as well be on Zoom.

00:41:05.540 You're not getting actual any kind of dialectic and the Greek sense of that word, which means discussion.

00:41:12.100 So I do think that that is a big dream.

00:41:18.060 I cannot come anywhere close to affording it right now.

00:41:22.700 I cannot, I don't think I could reasonably get enough people to, you know, pick up and go for a summer or something to do something right now.

00:41:34.180 We could probably get a few, to be honest.

00:41:36.080 But you understand, it's not pragmatic, practical right now.

00:41:40.760 But it is something that is practical in the future.

00:41:43.880 And it does take time.

00:41:46.220 And other people have done this.

00:41:48.100 Other people are doing this right now.

00:41:50.340 So it is real.

00:41:52.000 And so I do think that it's good to sketch out, you know, what are we doing next Tuesday?

00:41:58.740 Well, we're doing a member's call and we're going to post it.

00:42:01.160 What are we doing in the next few months?

00:42:03.220 Ah, we're finally releasing the book.

00:42:05.420 We need to clean up the copy edits.

00:42:08.360 Boom, it's going to be there.

00:42:09.520 What are we doing in the next 10 years?

00:42:11.340 I think it's important to think about that.

00:42:13.680 And what I think is, what I'm laying out is very radical in many ways, but is also very achievable.

00:42:23.560 And I don't think we'll, I think it would be only good.

00:42:29.620 It doesn't put a target on our backs.

00:42:34.160 I mean, it does to some degree, of course.

00:42:35.540 But it's something that is part of a Western American tradition of founding schools and instilling values and ways of thinking into people, young people in particular.

00:42:53.100 And I think it's also something that as we get more, as we get substantial funds, we can start thinking about and taking input on.

00:43:05.380 How are we going to implement this?

00:43:07.180 What's the best way to accomplish this goal?

00:43:10.140 What is a timeline?

00:43:11.160 I think at this point, I think we just simply need to name the goal, because we don't have money to put it into practice, so it's all theoretical.

00:43:20.660 But as we start having money, we can start thinking about how that can be used and how we can achieve this.

00:43:28.960 So that is my pitch.

00:43:32.340 There you go for why you should support what we're doing.

00:43:37.100 But do you guys want to discuss this, or do you have any questions?

00:43:44.120 Yeah, yeah, please, Mark.

00:43:45.120 Please go.

00:43:46.280 Yeah, no, so, I mean, REM theory is definitely going to be a thing.

00:43:54.160 So it's, in a lot of ways, it's very, you know, the more that Richard and I study it, and I think Richard would agree with this,

00:44:03.040 the more it becomes evident that the theory is evidently true, or is evidently the case, right?

00:44:09.460 So we've cracked something that, for whatever reason, hasn't been solved in the past, which is remarkable, of course, when you think about it.

00:44:18.260 Yeah.

00:44:18.780 And to the extent that we're overturning schools of thought, so a guy like Jung, whatever value he does, value he has in his work has, and he does have value, and his work does have value, he does say some things that are essentially true.

00:44:35.940 But I think that our thesis fundamentally kind of overturns a lot of his thinking.

00:44:43.880 And so that's a remarkable thing.

00:44:45.660 So if you're part of this, you're part of history.

00:44:48.760 I mean, that's, you know, maybe that's important to you.

00:44:52.540 You know, it's, you know, and the truth is, it's going to succeed.

00:44:56.020 I mean, if I'm being honest with you, it's going to succeed if I die penniless and Richard dies penniless.

00:45:02.740 It's going to succeed regardless, right?

00:45:05.080 Like, we'd rather not die penniless, and we would, and we're not going to die penniless because our school is already a success and will become more of a success in the future.

00:45:17.260 But the point I'm making is that what we're saying is true.

00:45:21.820 It's novel.

00:45:22.860 So you can be there sort of at the beginning helping us with this.

00:45:26.800 And, you know, of course, you know, it's so as much as it's a labor of love for us, you could also consider it also a bit of a labor of love for yourselves.

00:45:38.680 And that you are like putting something good into the world, something that is true, you're clarifying this mystery that we call art, this mystery that we call religion, you're clarity to it.

00:45:52.900 Not only that, you're allowing it to sort of come back into our hands and allow us to use it as the kind of formidable cultural weapon that it is essentially that religion and art represents.

00:46:06.820 And it's ultimately the sort of a nuclear bomb of weapons that you can have in your arsenal in the sense that, you know, nothing forms opinions and ideas and attitudes more than parable does.

00:46:23.380 And this is really, you know, what we're focused on, essentially, is figuring out this sort of the what parables and religion and art represent, what their significance is culturally, and also, you know, how how an artist can use these sort of symbols that have been used so effectively against us in a lot of cases through parable and so forth, that they can use it in the other direction.

00:46:53.380 Now, I mean, that's just, that's just one very kind of important application that I can mention.

00:46:58.560 I mean, at some point, I and Richard would probably agree with this.

00:47:01.560 I mean, I think one useful development of the school eventually, and I don't think this happens now, I think right now, mostly we're involved in analysis, but that it would be some part of it would be an art school, be kind of an art conservatory.

00:47:17.300 Because when you go to art school, what you learn is you learn the kind of technical aspects of your craft, in sort of the best case scenario, you learn the technical aspects of your craft, craft and you network, right.

00:47:30.500 But what you don't learn is the intelligent use of symbol, and the intelligent development of parable.

00:47:38.680 And also, you don't, you know, what we can do is we can also give artists the message to impart.

00:47:46.760 So we can give them the message to impart, and we can also give them the sort of means or the ways of imparting it symbolically.

00:47:53.360 And that's, you could never learn that at a film school, you could never learn that at a creative writing school.

00:48:00.160 And to the extent that, I mean, maybe you could, in some cases, if, if, you know, you had a, for example, a Jewish master that was a Jewish esotericist in a film school, and he was willing to kind of divulge some of these things.

00:48:16.340 But they are, of course, unwilling to divulge it, because that's sort of the nature of Jem, it's esoteric, right.

00:48:23.360 And so, but we divulge it, and we'll divulge it to, you know, people on our side, so to speak.

00:48:31.560 And I don't think that that can be underestimated in terms of the potential cultural impact that it could have.

00:48:40.080 I mean, there are, there have been art movements in history that have had an important effect on the culture.

00:48:46.460 There's no question about it.

00:48:47.500 But this could have a kind of seismic effect, I would argue, because it would imagine, it would allow people to kind of look at art and religion for what it really is, to understand its kind of true and fundamental nature.

00:49:00.880 And its esoteric nature, and to understand the symbols, have a kind of, you know, to become conversant with the symbols, and to use those symbols in parable, in an effective way, in a kind of cultural religious warfare, effectively.

00:49:16.320 And I don't think that, so it's, I think it, I think it's going to be a game changer.

00:49:22.900 Now, again, and I'm not in this for personal, you know, financial or economic reasons, obviously not.

00:49:29.240 I've just, I've been working on this theory for free for several years.

00:49:32.720 You know what I mean?

00:49:33.740 Just because I'm, because it's fascinating, and I, and just the fact that it's true, that, you know, is by itself something remarkable.

00:49:44.000 And, you know, and I've been thinking about these things my whole adult life, the use of symbol and so forth.

00:49:51.020 So I've been invested in this project as a kind of intellectual exercise and a labor of love, and ultimately something that I see as good for humanity, you know, and good for, again, our side, so to speak, that it's kind of necessary work.

00:50:10.300 And, you know, and I, the whole time I haven't really asked for anything, to be honest with you.

00:50:15.340 I've just been like, and I've been very, you know, because I've been, I wanted to really make sure that I wasn't seeing things.

00:50:24.080 I wanted to, like, verify it through many cases in many instances, and to have a very strong and solid case to bring forward.

00:50:34.140 And I think that that's done.

00:50:36.500 I think that that work is completed. 0.89

00:50:37.820 I think that there's, I think that, you know, a kind of unbiased person who reads this book will say, hey, holy shit, these guys are really onto something.

00:50:45.340 This is a real phenomenon.

00:50:47.940 And I think it will be to art and religion what Darwin is to, you know, essentially biology.

00:50:54.480 I mean, I guess it's a kind of, like, very bold thing to say, but I think it is actually the case.

00:51:02.020 You know, I mean, Richard has talked about this before.

00:51:04.640 You know, a lot of times with GEM or the study of REM, we're tracing a kind of genealogy of myth, you know, in the way an etymologist might trace a genealogy of linguistics and so forth.

00:51:18.840 We're doing something similar in that regard.

00:51:20.700 But we're also seeing that this myth is developed intelligently.

00:51:26.060 It's not developed arbitrarily.

00:51:28.140 It's not born of, like, mystic experience or some fantasy that ancient man is having.

00:51:33.660 It's developed intelligently by intelligent, sophisticated people that are symbol-wise.

00:51:38.600 And this process continues to this day.

00:51:40.860 We can see a kind of perfect continuum from Sumer to Hollywood. 0.99

00:51:44.680 I mean, it's just not, you know, once you start looking at this shit, you realize that that's the case. 0.98

00:51:50.120 And, you know, and it's the most ingenious form of cultural warfare that can be practiced. 0.98

00:51:57.560 Like, we're seeing right now Hollywood is kind of retreating into this anti-woke thing.

00:52:02.040 But that doesn't mean that they're going to stop making GEM.

00:52:05.660 No.

00:52:06.140 It just means they have to become more clever and more sophisticated.

00:52:09.980 Sort of like the thief hiding in the shadows now, right?

00:52:12.580 He has to be more dexterous to kind of to escape detection.

00:52:18.820 But that is, you know, I mean, this is this is something that we solve this problem.

00:52:26.400 We can solve the religion and culture problem. 0.90

00:52:29.020 I argue that we can solve this problem.

00:52:31.560 If we solve that problem, we've solved a lot of our problems, effectively, you know. 0.99

00:52:37.340 And of course, we can't I don't think that we're going to be able to do it in our day and age with our sort of fucked up stupid politics and the magatars and so forth. 1.00

00:52:45.540 But we can we can bring that work into the future. 0.96

00:52:49.800 So, you know, when the right people assume power, for example, and I think this will help them assume power,

00:52:56.300 because myth can be created on route to political power and assist and aid the development of political power.

00:53:04.240 We see that with Jews, for example. 0.74

00:53:05.740 So these these things can happen simultaneously.

00:53:08.360 But then once, you know, you know, once we have a kind of elite that knows the score, essentially,

00:53:17.420 they could be dominant for a long period of time in history.

00:53:21.300 I mean, I mean, that's the honest to God truth.

00:53:23.600 And I think it's it's harder to just erase knowledge now than it was in the past.

00:53:28.760 And maybe that will change. Right.

00:53:30.300 Maybe all the digital systems will go down and so forth.

00:53:32.620 And that's something that we should be mindful of.

00:53:34.700 But I think that it will be harder to erase this knowledge in the future that we've effectively.

00:53:43.540 We've kind of, you know, castrated an important avenue of attack.

00:53:48.960 If this theory takes hold and people in the kind of widespread understanding of it gains hold in society,

00:53:56.360 you know, or just like, you know, again, it doesn't not everyone has to be a kind of REM priest

00:54:01.260 and understand how the symbols are used in a kind of closer, accurate way.

00:54:06.240 But just be aware of the phenomena that it's just a kind of game changer.

00:54:10.560 Ultimately, you know, that art is not benign.

00:54:14.260 It can be it can be sort of poisonous or it can be very salubrious and helpful, you know,

00:54:20.340 but it has significance.

00:54:22.220 What your children are looking at, even the Sunday, you know, comic or cartoons or whatever,

00:54:28.500 it has an effect.

00:54:31.060 It has a formative effect on your children and on and on young women and young men

00:54:36.980 and maybe less so as you're getting older.

00:54:39.720 But it has an effect during that formative period on your psyche.

00:54:44.840 And it rules the whole civilization ultimately.

00:54:49.140 End of rant.

00:54:50.020 Oh, I totally co-sign everything that has just been said.

00:54:57.400 Yeah, I mean, Darwinism is an interest.

00:54:59.300 I mean, I mentioned Marxism, Freudianism, and maybe people have negative feelings towards those.

00:55:06.120 But Darwinism is definitely some.

00:55:08.200 I mean, this is this is what it is.

00:55:10.740 And I think there there needs to be that level of discourse, that level of uncovering reality

00:55:20.220 for an institution to really have a raison d'etre.

00:55:26.060 So, yeah.

00:55:28.720 These are the big things.

00:55:30.500 Anyway, do you guys have any questions or comments or affirmations that you want to add to this?

00:55:39.460 In terms of actually supporting, I'll be sending out something just for, you know, subscribers only.

00:55:48.760 Probably later on tonight.

00:55:50.320 I just need to finish cleaning everything up.

00:55:52.820 But you can see the link that I put in the chat.

00:55:56.800 It definitely would work for just that base level of support.

00:56:01.420 But anyway, anyone have any comments on this or anything like that?

00:56:05.860 Bert, you turned on your screen.

00:56:11.140 Yeah.

00:56:11.840 Sorry, just to check how horrible my hair was.

00:56:14.480 No, well, I was going to just be, you know, as an addendum, say, foreshadow that myself and a few of the other people on these calls have been working towards something which has taken up all of my professional life,

00:56:31.400 actually, for the past 12 months and a couple of other people's on here also.

00:56:34.940 So I think we're going to get there.

00:56:37.640 So to be guilty of the words of affirmation, which I think is a good way.

00:56:42.920 Maybe I don't want to go on a Tony Robbins rant, but I often think in these types of things, like when you're trying to do something huge,

00:56:50.160 you've almost got to think how you would like to fail in a way and why, as much as that might be batting up against some people's sort of positive thinking,

00:57:03.180 which I think we're going to have some measure of success.

00:57:05.460 But in a way, I see sort of like a, quote unquote, Aryan victory being something of having some type of financial power, 0.91

00:57:18.120 similar to the sort of cliches that basic bitch white nationalists point at and just sort of, they don't realise that when they're actually doing that, 1.00

00:57:26.640 they just, they hate power the same way idiotic Christian does. 1.00

00:57:30.340 And they don't quite realise that you need that in life, you know, even if you want to open a Lego factory, 1.00

00:57:35.820 you need that type of financial power to get you done, let alone if you're trying to do something political.

00:57:41.080 So I was going to say, anyway, I'm looking forward to the sort of more commercial orientated and goal orientated stuff that we'll do in the year.

00:57:51.220 But also that I think as a horrible runner up prize for the future, if it means that we all just are incredibly powerful and live in a little diaspora somewhere,

00:58:04.940 I'm willing to take that, although I think that's a very, very unlikely scenario.

00:58:09.440 But I think doing something like this is the only way forward.

00:58:15.300 And I just want to say thank you so much to you, Mike, and Richard also, because, you know, I can see that this has taken a horrible,

00:58:22.980 well, not a horrible, but a huge personal toll to be able to do the stuff you want and you believe in it.

00:58:27.480 And it's definitely inspired me because, as I mentioned, it's been quite difficult to do what I'm trying to do to get done.

00:58:32.660 And I realised that I've done it for one year, you guys have done it for probably 10 years plus.

00:58:36.720 So thank you so much to both of you, even if you don't quite want to be thought of as an inspiration.

00:58:44.320 And thank you, everyone, for coming here.

00:58:47.260 Yes.

00:58:47.780 Yeah, I know.

00:58:48.200 I appreciate that quite a bit.

00:58:50.980 Yeah, I know, Kurt.

00:58:51.640 Definitely appreciate that.

00:58:52.800 Thank you, man.

00:58:55.600 But, you know, part of it is just my autism.

00:58:57.920 Let's be honest.

00:58:59.160 I'm just kind of, I'm a little bit crazy to even like undertake this thing, as is Richard.

00:59:03.740 And I dragged him into it.

00:59:05.180 And he knows how crazy you become once you find that little red thread and you're like, oh, wait, this is what this is.

00:59:15.120 And it becomes, it can become a rabbit hole.

00:59:18.320 And so, you know, publishing the book is kind of a, it's part of the process of publishing the book is letting go of how kind of fun it is, actually, on some level, solving these problems.

00:59:30.740 Because they're riddles, basically, in these parables.

00:59:35.060 And when you're solving them, you're like, wow, you feel, you're kind of proud of yourself.

00:59:39.460 But really, what we have to do is just kind of solve kind of some main ones that represent sort of examples and show the way to solving these parables more generally.

00:59:50.840 And, you know, show the way of looking at these parables more generally, might be a clearer way of saying it.

00:59:56.420 But I think the book does that.

01:00:01.700 I mean, I think the book will be very definitive in terms of establishing the credibility of the theory.

01:00:10.240 You know, of course, we'll have our critics.

01:00:11.760 And, of course, some people will claim that we're as crazy as Alex Jones, right?

01:00:15.720 You just have to assume that because, you know, that's what they would claim of a guy like Kevin MacDonald, for example, whose thesis is, in a lot of ways, a lot less ambitious, I could say, even though.

01:00:30.280 And that's not to, you know, diminish his work at all.

01:00:33.380 I think he's had an incredible impact in terms of his work.

01:00:38.300 And it is this kind of yeoman work.

01:00:41.060 But I think that what we've done, though, is see something that hasn't been seen before, right?

01:00:50.040 Or at least it hasn't been seen since Rome, might be a better way of saying it.

01:00:54.660 Right. And maybe a lot of that has to do with Christianity, I think, which, to some extent, I think, has had a kind of lobotomizing effect as far as, you know, being able to read a symbol and so forth.

01:01:08.300 This sort of the literalist mentality of Christianity, that Christianity induces, where everything is just kind of face value, essentially.

01:01:14.880 Right. That's sort of the attitude you're supposed to adopt vis-a-vis Christianity.

01:01:20.640 And if you're able to look at Christianity in that sort of gullible way, where you're looking at everything as kind of face value and looking at it through a literalist's lens,

01:01:32.280 then where does that put you vis-a-vis ostensibly more credible things, you know, more credible myths appearing in the society and so forth?

01:01:41.300 And you can you can you can apply you can even apply this to, like, the news media, for example.

01:01:45.980 Right. Where does that put you vis-a-vis these other things?

01:01:50.500 So I think that. I think that this is going to be very, you know, and we stand on the shoulders, obviously, of people that are doing important work as well and kind of related fields.

01:02:02.180 And I think probably most saliently and most importantly, on some level, I mean, obviously, we owe a huge debt to Nietzsche, but we also owe a huge debt, I think, to mythicists.

01:02:13.820 Right. The Christ mythicists, which is, you know, who there are many people that are in that field in, you know, guys like Richard Carrier, I think, are kind of some of the more important ones.

01:02:26.460 You know, Price, as well. So and Scribina, certainly as well.

01:02:35.260 But those are some examples. And so we owe a debt to them.

01:02:40.500 But I think that we're going the next step. Right. Because what they're saying is, yeah, look, this is obviously a myth.

01:02:46.740 It's obviously bullshit. But we know that. 0.99

01:02:50.480 But they're also saying, in some cases, this is a derivative. It's a derivative myth.

01:02:58.420 Right. Which which makes sense. Right. Because all the other myths that we see in the ancient world are derivative myths.

01:03:04.920 So it would seem to follow. This is also a derivative myth.

01:03:08.040 But I think it's a REM theory, really, especially on the mythicism question, I think that we we add a special kind of insight to the mythicism question, because we see essentially Jews and Richard will back me up on this. 0.71

01:03:26.420 We we see essentially Jews kind of endorsing Christianity through the esotericism of contemporary films. 0.86

01:03:32.880 Right. Why would they be doing that? So it's it becomes the proof.

01:03:38.140 I mean, it proofs it sort of verifies Nietzsche's suspicion that it is Christianity is an op, right, to use the parlance of the day. 0.94

01:03:49.140 But it also. Yeah.

01:03:53.060 And so it's a pretty so it would it would verify a guy like Scribina, for example.

01:03:59.500 But, you know, of course, there are other reasons why we would think it's an op that are more kind of literalist and explicit, such as the creed, the sort of egalitarian creed that Christianity represents and so forth.

01:04:13.360 End of rant.

01:04:19.040 OK, so does anyone want to talk about this or should we start talking about some other things?

01:04:23.620 Any questions we could do?

01:04:33.100 I did grab some clips of like predictions that people I don't know.

01:04:36.960 I didn't know.

01:04:37.480 I watch clips.

01:04:38.720 Yeah, we can do predictions.

01:04:40.560 I mean, this is 2024.

01:04:42.140 I mean, yeah, yeah.

01:04:43.660 Yeah.

01:04:44.380 Yeah. So I figured that we might just do some predictions.

01:04:47.080 Right. But.

01:04:47.740 We could.

01:04:50.020 Yeah. Where where where did you put the clips in the scratch pad or.

01:04:53.180 No, I'll grab them right now, though.

01:04:54.540 OK.

01:04:54.720 But if you wanted to, like, start with your predictions, I mean, so I guess let's start with the most obvious one.

01:05:00.380 So you think Trump is going to be our next president.

01:05:03.480 So why don't you why don't you describe it to us your reasons for believing that?

01:05:10.140 Well, I did a little jokey tweet when I got home today, but on how Alvin Bragg is the man of the year, not Taylor Swift, because Alvin Bragg.

01:05:20.260 He definitively did the act that rallied everyone around Trump and made Trump inevitable in effect.

01:05:32.120 So Alvin Bragg, of course, the district attorney in Manhattan, he is in the process of prosecuting Donald Trump for paying.

01:05:43.300 I forgot how much it was, you know, 200 grand or something to Stormy Daniels after he had sex with her and then decided that he wanted her to shut up or so on and so forth. 0.99

01:05:56.060 And it it is a bullshit charge. 0.99

01:06:00.540 I mean, look, if you went into the books of any New York firm and you dug just a few inches down, I mean, how many prostitute payoffs and dead bodies would you find? 1.00

01:06:14.740 I mean, it's just ridiculous.

01:06:18.420 Now, I guess that's not an argument against actually prosecuting on him if he broke the law. 0.71

01:06:25.460 But what I'm basically saying is, who cares?

01:06:28.680 And from that very point, Ron DeSantis support collapsed.

01:06:34.380 Everyone rallied around Trump.

01:06:36.560 I think it made it inevitable.

01:06:38.420 And it definitely did taint further prosecutions.

01:06:41.460 I think the documents thing is is a real deal.

01:06:46.560 Now, it might be just boomer hoarding or it might be something really bad in terms of Trump's dealing with other countries.

01:06:57.560 Yeah, J6 was a buffoonish, you know, coup d'etat, of course.

01:07:01.480 Those things are more substantial.

01:07:02.840 But Alvin Bragg got it off to the right start.

01:07:05.500 And I think it just expresses these liberals thinking that they can, like, get Trump on a technicality and just erase his movement.

01:07:14.420 And they're going to be very disappointed.

01:07:17.760 So, yeah, that's my call right now.

01:07:20.440 Trump will be the winner of our last election.

01:07:22.620 I don't know if that's dark or kick-ass, celebratory.

01:07:29.480 Well, or maybe it just needs to happen.

01:07:32.280 Yeah.

01:07:33.240 Yeah.

01:07:33.880 No, I guess I don't really.

01:07:39.040 I mean, it does seem like he's most likely going to be the next president.

01:07:43.320 Yeah.

01:07:43.880 But I don't know.

01:07:44.620 I mean, it was kind of remarkable that Biden became president, right, if we're being honest.

01:07:48.920 I mean, it does seem like, I mean, sure, he was the establishment Democrat candidate, and it was during COVID, and there was dissatisfaction with Trump.

01:08:01.240 And the COVID thing was just to kind of, I don't even think that Trump, and maybe you disagree with this, I don't even think that Trump necessarily mishandled it.

01:08:11.140 And, I mean, I think he did in hindsight, right?

01:08:14.240 So, but in hindsight is 2020, as they say.

01:08:17.520 Yeah, I don't think he was radically bad on COVID.

01:08:20.400 I mean, yeah.

01:08:21.280 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:22.020 I mean, so he just kind of like, it was just a kind of misfortune, right?

01:08:27.980 And people, you know, there were conspiracy theories around COVID.

01:08:31.100 Was it hatched in a lab?

01:08:32.700 Possibly it was.

01:08:34.260 If it was hatched in a lab, were they thinking about the election in the United States?

01:08:37.980 That's another thing to consider.

01:08:39.080 But what I would say is that, I mean, if you could look at Trump, and again, because this didn't occur to me at the time, it only occurred to me later, to give Trump his fair due, is that he should have immediately said, okay, let's lock down.

01:08:57.560 And maybe it did occur to me at the time, actually.

01:09:00.300 But let's just lock down all the borders, right?

01:09:03.880 We've got a, and he should have just called their bluff.

01:09:06.380 He should have called the left's bluff.

01:09:07.860 To the extent that we understand the kind of pro-vaccine crowd and the restrictionist crowd to be leftist, he should have called their bluff and just said, hey, listen, all right, we're going to lock down.

01:09:18.760 We can have no immigration into the country. 1.00

01:09:20.980 We're going to seal the borders.

01:09:22.400 We're going to accelerate building the wall.

01:09:24.240 We've got a COVID, big COVID problem, right?

01:09:27.960 Now, if he had done that, it would be interesting to see how the left would have reacted.

01:09:31.800 I mean, I think that, if I had to guess, the left would have been-

01:09:34.780 I mean, immigration did go down quite a bit in that last year of history.

01:09:38.960 But yeah.

01:09:40.080 Yeah.

01:09:40.400 I mean, because I think the left, anytime a leftist is agreeing with Trump, they get a little like leery and say, maybe I should be not agreeing.

01:09:49.320 Yeah.

01:09:50.940 So, but again, hindsight is 20-20.

01:09:55.120 And I think, like everyone else, I was kind of, I think everyone else, like everyone else, we were kind of deers in the headlight, as it were.

01:10:04.620 I think I was pro-vaccine for about three months.

01:10:07.480 And then I was like, you know what? 1.00

01:10:08.960 Fuck this. 1.00

01:10:09.500 I just, I heard immunity. 1.00

01:10:11.420 Right.

01:10:11.820 Yeah, that's kind of how I got at the end of the day.

01:10:16.360 I mean, I do think the vaccines were ultimately a good thing, but, and we haven't had full herd immunity in the sense that we keep getting COVID.

01:10:25.200 I mean, I got it again this past fall.

01:10:26.840 So it's a weird thing.

01:10:28.200 It's like the perfect virus.

01:10:29.840 But yeah, I, that's pretty much where I was at some point.

01:10:35.720 Let's not go into the COVID discussion, because I don't want to revisit those years, but let's, yeah, Aristocrat is pointing out something from Visigrad 24.

01:10:49.340 That's very interesting.

01:10:51.080 U.S. and U.K. are preparing to declare total war on the Houthis and Yemen.

01:10:55.620 So this is another, in terms of predictions, and you guys feel free to chime in.

01:11:01.660 We, people have been very silent this, this episode, but in terms of war, is the Gaza thing going to wrap up fairly soon and there's just going to be an Israeli occupation?

01:11:19.080 Is it going to lead to a broader regional war in 2024 or shortly after?

01:11:27.620 What do you guys think about this?

01:11:31.500 I think at minimum drone warfare is a serious option because that's the one that requires the least amount of commitment.

01:11:38.440 Yeah.

01:11:38.540 But I think that what's happening with the Shia groups is, so America gets a lot of its legitimacy in the role that it plays in ensuring the maritime security of the world.

01:11:54.420 And I think that what they're doing here is they're undermining that.

01:11:58.480 And this is interesting because I think that the Anglo-Saxon world is a very specialist world.

01:12:09.480 It's a world with a very high carrying capacity with a lot of emphasis on both specialization and economies of scale.

01:12:19.360 And what happens is that in the face of instability, things like that collapse.

01:12:26.760 And I think if you look at like the past hundred years or more even, so much effort has been spent on ensuring global security, global stability and peace on earth and all this stuff.

01:12:40.580 And all of that is being undermined and it's being undermined by undermining the effectiveness of America and delivering on its promise, basically.

01:12:56.680 Yeah, I also agree that, you know, global systems can collapse pretty quickly.

01:13:01.840 It's, yeah, it's remarkable.

01:13:06.580 I don't know.

01:13:08.460 I don't see any real pushback in terms of Israel's actions and the consequences that could result from them.

01:13:20.820 I just think we're going to go keep going in this direction.

01:13:30.200 Yeah.

01:13:30.680 Honor said Netanyahu wants to undermine Biden.

01:13:34.460 The war is hurting Biden.

01:13:35.440 Yeah.

01:13:35.800 So keep going.

01:13:36.500 Do the war and get Trump in office and he'll let you do even more.

01:13:40.940 I think that public relations considerations, public image considerations are really going to be a big factor in how America moves forward.

01:13:51.800 Because there's been so much that America has been benefiting from, from its role in the world and when that's undermined, you know, it's more than just petty saving face.

01:14:05.320 It's, it's, it's, it's about being able to lead by example, which is something that America has done for a while.

01:14:10.840 The example I like to give is like, imagine, you know, two people are hanging from a thread.

01:14:19.600 And even if the two guys hate each other, you're not going to cut that wire.

01:14:25.320 You know, you both have an interest in making sure that the wire is, is, um, kept safe.

01:14:30.820 But, um, what happens when one of you suicidal, you know?

01:14:35.880 And I think, uh, to continue this analogy, the, the sheer groups are the suicidal people.

01:14:42.140 They're literally kamikazes, right? 0.97

01:14:43.920 Effectively.

01:14:47.840 Okay.

01:14:48.500 Let's watch this just for a little bit.

01:14:51.560 Um, see if there's any interest in this.

01:14:53.720 I get to predict the future.

01:14:54.860 What do you expect in 2024?

01:14:56.820 Look, there's been a lot of talk about micro targeting and the ways that candidates are going to try to reach the voters.

01:15:02.020 I predict, however, one of the tried and true, uh, pieces of presidential campaigns will endure and that there will be at least one televised debate between the Democrat and Republican presidential nominees.

01:15:15.120 I think there'll be no debate.

01:15:16.640 Which would be standard fare.

01:15:17.920 It would be.

01:15:18.600 And any other year.

01:15:19.480 But despite the.

01:15:19.920 But it's very much uncertain.

01:15:20.840 But it's very much uncertain right now, given concerns about the nonpartisan commission on presidential debates.

01:15:26.280 Yeah.

01:15:26.500 And the willingness of the potential nominees.

01:15:28.340 Yes.

01:15:28.580 As we currently imagine them.

01:15:29.560 Yeah.

01:15:29.800 But if it's Biden and Trump, they can't help themselves.

01:15:31.760 And they'll want at least one go at it.

01:15:33.780 Anything's possible this year.

01:15:35.340 Nicole, what about you?

01:15:36.480 Well, if former President Trump ends up being the Republican nominee, I predict that he will pick a female running mate.

01:15:43.100 And there are a number of females that are being talked about, female lawmakers, whether that's Elise Stefanik, whether that's Nancy Mace, for instance, you have Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders. 1.00

01:15:53.560 Yikes.

01:15:54.060 It makes sense, potentially.

01:15:55.620 Christy Noem, possibly.

01:15:56.560 Christy Noem, another one.

01:15:57.800 Governor of South Dakota.

01:15:58.800 So there are a lot of options remains to be seen.

01:16:01.580 But I think there potentially will be a woman on the ticket. 0.81

01:16:04.640 I we talked about this on Thursday.

01:16:07.220 I am barely convinced by the argument for Nikki Haley.

01:16:11.260 Just to go back to all of those other women, Christy Noem doesn't bring you anything that you already have.

01:16:21.060 And yes, she's a woman, but yeah, Huckabee Sanders. 0.99

01:16:26.280 Wow.

01:16:27.680 Nancy Mace is quite a piece of work. 0.62

01:16:32.020 She seems.

01:16:34.600 I don't know.

01:16:35.920 I would if I were Trump, I would be worried about putting someone like that in there.

01:16:41.260 I don't know if she's terribly popular.

01:16:46.980 And most people thought her, you know, opposition to McCarthy was pointless.

01:16:52.440 Stefanik is interesting in the sense that she's very pro-Israel, as was revealed recently, and has also done just all Tucker Carlson, you know, great replacement stuff is real and all that kind of thing.

01:17:05.460 So I don't know.

01:17:07.040 What do you guys think?

01:17:07.840 I kind of.

01:17:11.480 It passed as precedent.

01:17:13.300 So what did Trump do in the past?

01:17:16.840 Will he be likely to do something like that in the future?

01:17:20.680 It was not.

01:17:21.900 Mike Pence did not run for president in 2016.

01:17:25.280 So he was a bit off the field.

01:17:30.200 He was kind of a, you know, someone who wasn't on the playing field that he brought in.

01:17:35.380 So is he going to do that again with Gnome, Stefanik, et cetera?

01:17:40.120 Is the Vicky argument, I think, is just very compelling.

01:17:43.540 But, or Nikki argument, excuse me, but it's just, would he actually be willing to do something like that?

01:17:50.940 What do you guys think?

01:17:54.940 Essentially.

01:17:56.020 I'm not so sure.

01:17:57.260 I mean, Haley does kind of have a representation of the neocon establishment.

01:18:01.380 So, I mean, if Trump did pick her, it would be kind of a, it could be a mending of the GOP in a way.

01:18:08.140 But I don't know.

01:18:09.920 I'm just, I'm not sure he'd be inclined to do that, honestly.

01:18:13.540 Yeah, I think it depends.

01:18:14.660 I mean, we talked about this a little bit last time.

01:18:16.480 I think the Pence experience might, you know, and actually, Richard, you talked about this a little as well on a former, or an earlier podcast where you were talking about, you know, I mean, MAGA can provide its own talent to some extent right now.

01:18:31.560 So it doesn't have to, like, rely on these Washington insiders and these sort of career policies and so forth, you know.

01:18:39.400 Or these networked lawyers and, you know, whatever it is, you know.

01:18:46.180 So I think that he, you know, once bitten, twice shy, we'll see, right?

01:18:54.920 Because the problem is he didn't learn quick enough on the job last time, in my opinion.

01:19:00.640 So is he going to go in with the same sort of naive perspective?

01:19:07.860 And is he going to, you know, you know, fumble around with the art of the deal?

01:19:14.980 Let's make a deal and we can get everyone on the same team?

01:19:17.760 Or is he going to go in as he should have early on in 2016 and just, you know, cleared the deck and just said, hey, listen, it's my way or the highway.

01:19:28.580 And I'm going to get one thing that I should say, you know, this is like a cliche of mine of it's a feature, it's not a bug.

01:19:36.980 But, you know, all of these people were desperate for Trump to simply admit defeat.

01:19:46.000 You know, it's no it's no sin in a way.

01:19:50.200 You know, people lose elections.

01:19:52.340 It happens.

01:19:53.580 It was a tough one.

01:19:54.760 It was a COVID year, blah, blah, blah.

01:19:57.240 And he just can't.

01:19:58.980 I mean, he still hasn't admitted defeat.

01:20:01.720 But this is the question that I would ask is if he had admitted defeat and then shook Joe Biden's hand and gone to the inauguration and so on, would he be in the position that he is in now?

01:20:20.200 I would say no.

01:20:22.380 Yeah, I would agree with you.

01:20:24.320 Right.

01:20:24.520 It's like everyone, the things that are just so totally insane about Trump are the ways that he served, not even wins, but survives.

01:20:36.720 Yeah.

01:20:37.260 Well, look at the success of Alex Jones.

01:20:39.720 Yeah.

01:20:40.960 And why is he successful? 0.96

01:20:42.380 Because he's completely nutty.

01:20:44.620 You know, I think that, you know, not to not to throw a front desk under the bus. 0.99

01:20:50.560 Again, we we we think he's funny and we like him, but I, you know, some of his nutty shit is really what gives the guy a higher profile. 0.97

01:21:00.020 Yeah. 0.98

01:21:01.400 And draws a lot of views and and and augments his audience.

01:21:06.000 Right.

01:21:06.340 So he whether consciously or unconsciously, I think he panders to that wildness as well.

01:21:12.800 Right.

01:21:13.160 So, you know, so it's better if Trump's like, oh, yeah, it's actually it's actually just a big conspiracy.

01:21:19.120 Right.

01:21:20.560 I mean, you guys are right.

01:21:22.300 It's actually just a big like reptile.

01:21:24.500 Yeah.

01:21:25.080 And of course, they fix the elections.

01:21:27.520 Then, you know, the reptile part is subtext, of course.

01:21:30.860 But you understand what I'm saying.

01:21:33.100 They're going to be more like, yeah, he's right.

01:21:35.460 The whole thing's rigged. 1.00

01:21:36.700 It's bullshit. 1.00

01:21:37.660 Yeah. 1.00

01:21:39.340 So, you know, we've discussed this before, but then it's like, well, if that's your narrative.

01:21:45.040 And I think that they still will manage to get the vote out.

01:21:47.680 I mean, thinking about it now.

01:21:48.820 Mm hmm.

01:21:50.560 Uh, but, uh.

01:21:52.960 Yeah.

01:21:53.520 We like is that blackpilling if the if the elections fixed?

01:21:57.600 Yeah, it has been in the past.

01:21:59.900 I mean, I remember the Georgia in 2020 was a disaster because of this.

01:22:05.000 But remember, Trump cares about Trump.

01:22:07.880 Trump doesn't care about these other politicians losing.

01:22:12.040 And also, I don't think I think only Trump can do it in the sense that, you know, Carrie

01:22:17.820 Lake.

01:22:18.280 Like, I haven't really heard from her in a while.

01:22:21.660 And, you know, the court cases in Arizona have not been successful and she's kind of disappeared.

01:22:31.300 But when he does it, it's really, it's ultimately to his, his benefit.

01:22:41.860 Like, if he had, if he had conceded, I think he would not.

01:22:46.020 I think DeSantis would be the leading candidate.

01:22:49.060 It's just kind of crazy when you think about it.

01:22:51.900 And again, I think he actually did lose the election, although I do.

01:22:55.940 I do also believe that the election was rigged in the sense that the, you know, these new

01:23:02.580 rules, massive mail in voting, uh, leeway on late stuff.

01:23:08.820 I mean, I do think that it was a different election than it had been in a while.

01:23:12.480 And obviously more votes were counted than ever before.

01:23:15.360 So, you know, and, and so look, you know, big tech censorship and, uh, okay, I'll grant

01:23:21.280 something there.

01:23:22.040 So, but it wasn't rigged in the way that people think it was rigged of just outright fraud

01:23:29.040 and changing of votes and all that kind of stuff. 0.86

01:23:32.340 But it's just like, you, you have to just look at Trump and yeah, his whole life is a disaster

01:23:37.980 now and he's facing, you know, jail time and all this kind of stuff.

01:23:42.260 But can you really fault him for any decision he's made?

01:23:47.620 You know, nothing succeeds like success.

01:23:50.260 There's, there's no other criterion for success as a politician outside of remaining relevant

01:23:58.020 and being on the verge of victory.

01:24:02.580 Yeah.

01:24:03.240 The conspiracy.

01:24:04.520 Oh, crazy.

01:24:05.300 Just to say it out loud.

01:24:07.560 Yeah.

01:24:08.660 Because it's, it's like every smart person was like, he's just got to drop this.

01:24:12.620 So an election stuff, you know?

01:24:16.620 Well, the conspiracy stuff.

01:24:18.360 And again, I think we've touched on some of these things, uh, but the conspiracy stuff,

01:24:22.840 um, it is, I think it's appealing because it appeals to a sort of childlike mentality,

01:24:28.620 um, where it's, it's a form of entertainment.

01:24:33.120 I mean, we've talked about this with, um, you know, Alex Jones.

01:24:37.540 I mean, why, why is Alex Jones so salient?

01:24:40.400 Why do people cut him so much slack?

01:24:42.180 It's because at the end of the day, they're kind of entertained by the guy.

01:24:45.640 Right.

01:24:46.040 Yeah.

01:24:46.260 I think it's funny.

01:24:47.180 And, you know, and what if there are UFOs and they're controlling the government or whatever?

01:24:52.360 Uh, that's cool.

01:24:54.220 It's like, you're in a movie, right?

01:24:56.040 It's like, yeah.

01:24:56.860 Right.

01:24:57.440 Watching a movie. 1.00

01:24:58.320 You're like, oh, holy shit. 1.00

01:24:59.420 There's, you know, UFOs controlling the white house. 1.00

01:25:02.120 Um, and that is more entertaining.

01:25:04.940 It's entertaining.

01:25:05.660 So it's entertainment.

01:25:07.360 Um, and so he has an entertainment factor to him and because he's entertaining, entertaining,

01:25:13.560 he's more likely to get elected.

01:25:15.020 That's how he got elected the first time around is that he, I mean, whatever you can say about

01:25:20.020 Trump, uh, however you can criticize him, you can't say that he's not a showman or he's

01:25:25.720 not entertaining.

01:25:26.560 He's extremely entertaining, um, and funny, and he is a showman, you know, so he's, he's

01:25:34.040 definitely brilliant in that regard.

01:25:36.460 I think this year, 2000, just to do a little bit of a brief retrospective though, uh, 2023

01:25:42.660 will be remembered as the year that Israel jumped the shark, right. 0.89

01:25:48.460 And jump the shark. 0.88

01:25:49.640 I totally agree.

01:25:50.840 Yeah.

01:25:51.240 And jump the shark is, I don't know if everyone's familiar with that, um, expression.

01:25:54.800 Uh, you're obviously familiar with it.

01:25:56.920 So maybe there's a kind of widespread, uh, understanding of the meaning of that expression,

01:26:00.960 but it derives from, uh, the happy days, uh, the old happy days show where they had

01:26:07.240 Fonz, right.

01:26:08.760 And Fonzie, right.

01:26:10.320 And so, and Fonzie was, I, I, the, the shows were getting increasingly sort of like worn out.

01:26:17.660 All the tropes were getting worn out and they, they didn't really have anything new to do

01:26:21.000 with the show.

01:26:21.640 So the show got increasingly like ridiculous and just kind of like, you know, odd or whatever,

01:26:28.400 just going in these random directions.

01:26:30.280 And in one show, Fonzie is, uh, water skiing, I guess, showing off for the girls, we would 0.57

01:26:37.160 have to assume.

01:26:38.020 And, uh, he jumps over a, uh, a shark, right.

01:26:42.280 Like on a lake as well.

01:26:43.940 It's, it's even, yeah, yeah.

01:26:45.540 There's a shark in the lake.

01:26:46.900 Or something, is that what it was?

01:26:48.600 I think it was that bad.

01:26:50.360 Yeah.

01:26:50.620 It was just, yeah.

01:26:52.180 Yeah.

01:26:52.540 Yeah.

01:26:52.940 And so, and I don't know how they, you know, through whatever contrivances of the plot,

01:26:57.660 they got to Fonzie like jumping over a shark.

01:27:00.360 And, but it became a kind of, uh, it became a, uh, a cliche or aphorism.

01:27:06.360 I don't know what the, uh, there's a better, that, that episode became a kind of byword.

01:27:12.460 Do you guys hear that?

01:27:14.080 What was that?

01:27:15.300 Good Lord.

01:27:16.260 I hope that was a firework.

01:27:19.280 Oh, I don't know what was going on.

01:27:21.520 Just a huge, I guess it wasn't picked up by the mic.

01:27:24.060 Just this, uh, good God, these crazies are doing, I hope that's a firework.

01:27:30.180 Otherwise it was just a big bang collapse.

01:27:33.620 Anyway, keep talking.

01:27:35.020 I'm just going to go look out the window real quick.

01:27:36.780 Yeah, but anyways, uh, so it became a, that episode became a kind of a byword for, uh,

01:27:44.120 just when it, when a sitcom had run its course or when a TV show had run its course and was

01:27:49.840 no longer viable and, uh, ratings were dropping and the thing was starting to suck.

01:27:54.620 You know, not that, uh, not that happy days was ever a Shakespeare or anything, but, uh,

01:28:01.060 so jump the shark. 0.58

01:28:02.440 That's where that expression originates.

01:28:04.860 Probably everyone on the call knows that though.

01:28:07.060 I just have a, yeah, no, it's interesting.

01:28:08.760 I think probably people have heard the term, but don't know what it derives from, uh, but

01:28:14.080 they, but they, they've derived its meaning from, yeah, no, it's real.

01:28:17.940 We'll never be legitimate again.

01:28:20.340 I think this is actually profoundly important.

01:28:24.200 What has happened.

01:28:25.940 And I don't think I'm engaging in any sort of wishful thinking.

01:28:29.160 Um, Israel became the bad guy definitively. 0.93

01:28:34.860 It's been the bad guy for, you know, Marxist and leftist and critics and paleo conservatives

01:28:40.460 and white nationalists, et cetera.

01:28:41.900 But it's now the bad guy for a great deal of the population and a great deal of the world.

01:28:47.340 And I just, I don't think you can recover from that and it, there's no way to recover from

01:28:53.360 it because people are overlooking the atrocities of October 7th at this point because, and they

01:29:00.900 were atrocities, but it's just Israel is so much worse. 0.93

01:29:05.660 It's a amazing and I don't, it can't recover.

01:29:12.520 So I, we need to start thinking about where it's going, like what happens after worse.

01:29:17.320 Yeah.

01:29:17.880 I mean, one thing that I think is worth remarking on is just how rapidly people turned on Israel.

01:29:25.140 Like the anti-Israel, it's not, I mean, granted they're doing some very terrible, insane stuff,

01:29:31.260 but usually the media would find ways of covering it up or just not reporting it or whatever

01:29:35.940 the case may be.

01:29:38.460 And, but sort of the rapidity at which people turned on them.

01:29:42.300 And I think that there, there is something to that where, you know, in, I mean, on a micro

01:29:49.600 level, I think you experienced something similar to it yourself where how Israel is kind of the

01:29:54.800 scapegoat.

01:29:55.540 I mean, that's, that's too kind of word, obviously, because they're killing thousands of Palestinian 0.98

01:30:00.000 children or whatever. 0.73

01:30:01.060 Right.

01:30:01.420 But, but people smell blood in the waters, what I'm trying to say.

01:30:06.320 So suddenly all this kind of like pent up resentment of like, you know, why, how, why

01:30:11.000 did the Jews get away with thinking they're so special? 1.00

01:30:13.420 All this shit that's been simmering under the surface. 1.00

01:30:17.560 Now is the moment to be like, all right, fuck you and throw them under the bus. 1.00

01:30:21.720 Right. 1.00

01:30:22.320 So everyone takes the opportunity to throw them under the bus.

01:30:25.060 Uh, and it just happens like it, it just turns very rapidly, you know?

01:30:31.020 Um, and so I think that that's remarkable, you know, and I, I'm sure in a lot of cases,

01:30:36.380 Jews, Israelis, certainly, but Jews, uh, in America, for example, feel like suddenly they

01:30:42.160 feel betrayed.

01:30:43.120 Right.

01:30:44.420 Um, and, uh, but it's, but, but this resentment, uh, and this, uh, this antisemitism, you could

01:30:54.220 call it, but certainly anti-Israelism, uh, has been there the whole time.

01:30:59.520 It's just, people have been waiting for the moment to just say, okay, that's it. 1.00

01:31:04.000 This is, you know, this is the, the straw that broke the camel's back and fuck you. 1.00

01:31:09.000 Right. 1.00

01:31:09.440 And, but it's shocking.

01:31:10.740 It's surprising.

01:31:12.000 Um, and I think that it's, it is a kind of tragedy, I think of Gentile and Jewish relations 1.00

01:31:17.880 generally in the sense that I do think that, and this is something like, uh, you know, Woody

01:31:22.680 Allen might, uh, comment on or whatever, is it, there's this idea of the repressed wasp.

01:31:27.480 Right.

01:31:28.340 And well, what does that mean?

01:31:29.760 Well, I, they're talking about sexuality, I guess, to some extent, but they're also talking

01:31:34.140 about like, you know, uh, civility or being, uh, gentility, right.

01:31:41.460 They're talking about, um, being polite and not, um, and sort of suffering offenses and

01:31:50.760 being like, oh, but, but taking the high road.

01:31:53.080 Right.

01:31:54.440 Um, and, and, but what that, it ends up being a kind of pressure cooker.

01:32:01.720 Right.

01:32:02.380 So, I mean, I, I guess the, the Kipling poem, uh, just tends to sum it up of the, what's

01:32:08.860 it called?

01:32:09.140 The, the awakened Saxon.

01:32:10.880 I, I've, I've actually done a reading of this poem, though.

01:32:13.660 I think that that's a modified form of the original poem.

01:32:16.380 Um, I don't think it was originally Saxon.

01:32:18.580 Um, uh, if I'm remembering correctly, um, I think it might've been like Englishman or something.

01:32:25.780 It's something more, you know, less kind of, um, universal or less, you know, applicable

01:32:31.460 to Americans, for example.

01:32:33.080 Um, but in any case, I think you understand my point that this, this, um, this is, I think

01:32:40.840 this is part of, uh, a dynamic between Jews and Gentiles where the Jew, you could argue

01:32:46.460 is more the extrovert, right.

01:32:50.160 Um, on the other hand, there is a kind of G and we see this with gem, for example, there's

01:32:55.180 a kind of subtle, uh, but I would say relatively rapid and aggressive, a subtle, but rapidly

01:33:03.160 aggressive kind of, uh, invasiveness, uh, that Jews represent essentially, whereas the 1.00

01:33:10.100 Gentile is, is slow to be offended ultimately.

01:33:15.940 Right.

01:33:16.380 So, uh, similar to the Saxon poem, right.

01:33:19.260 So he's on some level, he's kind of, he, at least ostensibly is insensitive to, uh, these

01:33:27.440 kind of gradually accruing offenses.

01:33:29.740 And then finally he opens a can of whoop-ass or, um, you know, so, or the, suddenly the

01:33:38.580 turn is, is surprising and sudden.

01:33:41.780 Um, so I think the part of that figures into what we're seeing now.

01:33:45.820 Now, of course, a lot of the reaction that's going on now is coming from the left, including

01:33:50.220 in some portion of it is from non-whites, for example.

01:33:53.740 Um, so it's a little different than that, but I think that that is in the mix and not

01:33:59.620 in a, it's a kind of important part of the mix, right.

01:34:02.560 Because, um, that represents a relatively potent opposing force, uh, to Jews. 1.00

01:34:10.920 Um, you know, so in any case, I think it's, I think you understand the dynamic though.

01:34:16.400 It's a, it's almost like if you look at it, if you were, if you, if you could imagine two

01:34:20.280 archetypes, the archetypical Jew and the archetypical Gentile, and you can see how problems would

01:34:26.900 develop, right.

01:34:28.100 Um, because one is pushing, um, but maybe at first subtly and gently and, and testing.

01:34:36.540 Can I go here?

01:34:37.280 Can I go here and pushing in, in a kind of invasive way, ultimately.

01:34:41.220 And the other one is saying, uh, that's not enough of an offense, uh, for me to react.

01:34:47.700 That's not enough of an offense for me to react.

01:34:50.840 I'm just going to let it go.

01:34:51.980 I'm going to be the bigger guy.

01:34:52.820 But then at some point, he's just like, you know what, I've had it.

01:34:56.900 Um, and it's, it's sort of like, we're seeing two personalities, um, uh, contrasted against

01:35:04.280 one another, uh, you know, throughout history, two personalities where, um, they just, at some

01:35:13.320 point that, uh, you know, one gets sick of the other essentially, right.

01:35:17.340 Some point, you know, it's sort of like a college roommates that one of them is kind of

01:35:21.120 annoying the other roommate. 1.00

01:35:22.920 And at some point he's just like, you know what, fuck it, fuck you. 1.00

01:35:25.560 And it's just been bottling. 1.00

01:35:27.200 He's been bottling it.

01:35:28.320 That's what the word is bottling.

01:35:29.820 Right.

01:35:30.620 And I don't know.

01:35:31.460 I mean, it's, it's, um, we could argue that it's a kind of deficiency on our part is that

01:35:36.080 we are bottlers essentially on some level.

01:35:39.300 I mean, that might be part of the diagnosis here.

01:35:42.120 Um, and, uh, you know, I argue like there, there are two types of like, and I think part

01:35:48.640 of it too, is that like, well, we, we don't want to be overly sensitive because, you know,

01:35:52.740 women are overly sensitive essentially. 1.00

01:35:54.500 Right.

01:35:54.660 You should be able to like razz a guy.

01:35:56.700 There should be some jocular wave, the bands or whatever.

01:35:59.660 The interaction between men is not necessarily a kind of, you know, sissy, gentle interaction.

01:36:05.660 Uh, so you should be able to kind of, you know, take a little bit of abuse or that.

01:36:09.560 I think that this is part of the mentality.

01:36:10.820 Um, but I think that there's another kind of sensitivity that's not feminine, uh, in

01:36:17.820 this, I've said this before, you know, it's a kind of poetic or, you know, maybe a little

01:36:22.460 ridiculous, but a dramatic way of, uh, illustrating this type of sensitivity.

01:36:27.600 There's also the sensitivity of the lion, right. 0.95

01:36:30.680 Of the animal that's hunting, uh, that can smell when he's, uh, being threatened or endangered,

01:36:37.300 you know, is sensitive in that way and, uh, and kind of puts, puts up his boundaries more

01:36:45.200 effectively to avoid being in a situation where, you know, all the boundaries are gone.

01:36:50.140 And so he can only react by lashing out essentially, you know what I mean?

01:36:53.660 And I think that to some extent, culture can solve a lot of these problems to a greater extent,

01:36:58.640 religion and culture can solve a lot of these problems.

01:37:01.320 Um, now, of course, part of that is also the kind of execution of religion and culture and

01:37:05.960 so forth, uh, and it's given to human hands.

01:37:08.700 So there's something imperfect about that, obviously, but, um, I think you understand

01:37:12.980 my point that there's, it's, we're looking at two different personalities, um, and, you

01:37:20.520 know, and that's, therein lies the conflict.

01:37:23.840 Uh, you know, that's, it's a kind of oversimplification, obviously, and it's looking at one dimension

01:37:29.240 of it, but I think it's a part of it and it's worth considering, you know what I mean?

01:37:33.140 If we look at, yeah, any, in any case, go, well, I would say, I would say that Israel's 0.98

01:37:39.380 jumped the shark, Israel will never have legitimacy in the eyes of the general public and also 0.94

01:37:50.700 antisemitism fairly or unfairly has been released as a result of this.

01:37:58.520 It's, it's not the ultimate, it's not caused by the actions on Gaza, but it is never going

01:38:06.040 away.

01:38:06.960 And all of the actions that are being taken by Jewish organizations are going to increase 0.99

01:38:12.200 antisemitism going forward.

01:38:15.280 I think we're in a point where antisemitism is going to be mainstream for better and for

01:38:20.320 worse.

01:38:20.660 It's not necessarily how we would like to offer a criticism of Israel or the Jews in general

01:38:26.920 or Judaism, et cetera, but it's just going to be uncontrollable.

01:38:32.400 Yeah, I would tend to agree with that.

01:38:33.660 Yeah.

01:38:33.920 And I think that there's going to be a lot to sort of criticize, criticize about that

01:38:38.140 manifestation.

01:38:39.800 Well, that will manifest itself.

01:38:43.160 Um, definitely, you know, and in many forms of it, uh, we cannot be in favor of ultimately,

01:38:49.660 you know what I mean?

01:38:51.220 Um, because ultimately they're not solutions to this challenge between, uh, these two groups,

01:38:57.460 the Gentile and the Jew, they're not solutions. 1.00

01:39:00.180 They're ultimately ways of, uh, you know, delaying the solution and just entering back into this

01:39:07.180 destructive cycle, essentially. 0.89

01:39:09.200 You know, um, that, uh, you know, sort of the more ignorant people to DR get excited about it. 0.86

01:39:16.300 They're like, yeah, 109 times, 110's coming up, buddy. 0.92

01:39:20.280 You better get ready. 0.99

01:39:21.100 It's just like, holy shit, dude. 1.00

01:39:23.260 Don't you realize this is failure? 1.00

01:39:25.680 Yeah.

01:39:26.360 It's failure, you know?

01:39:28.320 Um, and, uh, so, I mean, because look, ultimately all, all minds, we, again, I think that ultimately,

01:39:40.180 I think that, um, I think that Judaism will go out of style. 1.00

01:39:45.720 Uh, you know, we, we've talked about this a bunch of times, so there will probably develop

01:39:49.540 what are called post-Jews, um, but Judaism proper itself, I think will go out of fashion

01:39:55.960 because it ultimately attends a bad reputation, um, and because of the decline of Christianity

01:40:01.600 as well.

01:40:02.320 Christianity is declining simultaneously, and if Judaism starts to decline as well, then

01:40:08.940 there's even less reason, then Christianity has even less coherence, right?

01:40:15.580 Um, yeah.

01:40:18.260 So, I think that these, the general trend, it seems, is that these things are going out

01:40:22.440 of style, um, and, you know, it would be better if all minds of whatever race, uh, were directed 0.95

01:40:32.640 toward more constructive civilizational projects than, you know, having to fucking be in these 0.91

01:40:40.500 conflicts, these prodigal conflicts that have resulted in even world wars. 0.85

01:40:45.400 I mean, it's just, you know what I mean?

01:40:47.420 Like, we, we have to at least aspire and dream of a better world, even while being realistic.

01:40:53.720 I mean, it's, you know, with the ancients say, no man has seen the end of war.

01:40:59.780 Uh, no, but, uh, and maybe there, there will be no end of war, but I think that we can greatly

01:41:05.780 sort of mitigate, uh, the sort of prodigal, um, behavior of man in this direction or that,

01:41:13.560 uh, uh, through intelligent cultural and religious development.

01:41:17.240 I think that, I think that that is possible.

01:41:20.220 Um, and certainly we've seen better ages and, and, uh, and though there are some good

01:41:25.160 things about our age too.

01:41:26.340 I mean, we would have to admit, um, in any case, I think he, end of rant.

01:41:32.240 Yeah, I, I will have to get going pretty soon, although you guys can stay on if you want.

01:41:38.600 Um, but does anyone else want to jump in with like predictions about something we're missing

01:41:43.100 or?

01:41:46.700 Well, one thing I would add is that, um, the idea of Israel being scapegoated, uh, I think

01:41:53.080 that looking at that and saying that that's an example of a loss of Jewish power is actually

01:41:57.520 incorrect.

01:41:58.380 I think that it's an exercise of Jewish power rather it's, it's, you know, uh, slapping 1.00

01:42:03.940 your prison bitch effectively. 1.00

01:42:05.280 Um, but yeah, um, it's not to say that they had a loss of power. 0.99

01:42:09.560 I do think they have, but I think that, uh, the Israel situation, um, that's, that's not

01:42:15.400 in itself, uh, a loss of Jewish power, an indication of it rather.

01:42:18.700 Well, I mean, I, I, I, I sort of agree with you in the sense that Israel can be scapegoated 1.00

01:42:27.920 and that doesn't mean the loss of Jewish power.

01:42:33.620 And there's Jews are in a way more powerful when they're not Zionist or they're a little 1.00

01:42:40.220 bit critical of Zion.

01:42:41.360 I mean, I could go on with that, but I don't agree with you fundamentally.

01:42:46.280 I think Israel getting overrun, Israel engaging in greater atrocities, et cetera, et cetera,

01:42:54.020 whatever outcome it is, I, I think is bad for the Jews. 0.77

01:42:58.320 I mean, it's just a bad look.

01:42:59.760 I think it makes people question other things.

01:43:04.360 And so, no, I, I, I would say it's, it's a bad thing.

01:43:07.920 Yeah.

01:43:08.820 And I, maybe I think in, uh, aristocrat can correct me if I'm wrong.

01:43:14.140 Maybe what he's saying though is, uh, you know, to the extent that they ultimately become

01:43:20.300 hated and despised or persecuted, then it, you know, ultimately sort of benefits them in

01:43:25.860 another turn or another cycle as it were.

01:43:29.060 Right.

01:43:29.760 But, um, but I, but really the, they're, the way that they're looking now is they're

01:43:35.280 looking like Nazis. 0.64

01:43:36.120 So it's the worst case scenario, every, all their propaganda that they've toiled to create 0.98

01:43:41.320 about how bad Nazis are and how bad, you know, killing minorities, like non-white minorities 0.98

01:43:47.460 is. 1.00

01:43:48.000 And yeah, like they're doing all that shit, right? 0.98

01:43:50.180 So all their whole like billion dollar propaganda industry is now, uh, working against them, 0.98

01:43:55.960 you know, so all these things that we're supposed to be concerned about and sad about, um, they're

01:44:01.440 doing that now.

01:44:02.320 Uh, so it's a massive loss of credibility on terms that they have set, you know, now, ultimately

01:44:09.600 if Jews are, you know, to aristocrats point, if Jews are like become a despised, persecuted

01:44:15.220 people and so forth, I mean, you know, ultimately that can become a narrative in another turn of

01:44:23.740 history as it were.

01:44:24.600 Uh, as we saw with, um, World War II, of course, right, where they became persecuted in, uh,

01:44:31.420 Nazi Germany and then, you know, they use that persecution essentially in the propaganda

01:44:37.620 of that persecution essentially to, you know, to their effect as, uh, to their benefit rather

01:44:45.480 to, uh, as, uh, Norman Finkelstein describes, right.

01:44:49.100 So eloquently and, and says what we can't say, right.

01:44:52.660 It's a, it's a big guilt trip essentially is what he says.

01:44:54.920 Uh, it's, um, uh, moral capital.

01:44:58.260 They gain all this moral capital through the Holocaust. 0.93

01:45:01.240 And so have a kind of, you know, they have more moral capital than Gentiles and through 0.99

01:45:07.560 this moral capital, uh, they become beyond reproach.

01:45:12.840 And that's a huge amount of power and cultural power that they're given in society as a consequence

01:45:18.220 about, you know what I mean?

01:45:19.640 Uh, so in any case, um, you know, one thing I was going to, uh, mention, uh, about the

01:45:28.260 work, uh, that Richard and I are doing is that the other thing too, is that, and it's one of

01:45:34.940 the reasons, uh, well, I mean, there are many reasons, of course, but I mean, if, if I was

01:45:39.920 just doing something that was kind of a straight up like DR approach, myth or whatever, um, it

01:45:47.580 would be difficult to find funding for that as well.

01:45:50.040 Though I, but I think that what, what the analysis of REM is neither right wing or left

01:45:56.180 wing, right?

01:45:56.980 So it's, it's neither appealing to sort of the vanity of the Norse bros or the kind of

01:46:03.280 standard Aryanists that look at myth. 0.93

01:46:05.340 It's not, it's not appeasing to them because we're really interested in like knowing what

01:46:10.400 these myths say, right.

01:46:12.420 Um, and understanding the symbol language and so forth.

01:46:15.460 Uh, so it doesn't like, it's, it's not something that they're going to be like, get, you know,

01:46:20.540 get on the bandwagon and say, yeah, support this work.

01:46:24.200 He's, he's telling us how we used to be like Thor and shit. 0.89

01:46:27.500 It's not like that.

01:46:28.640 Um, and not that it doesn't have elements of that.

01:46:33.260 And, you know, we have Jupiter and all this stuff and Apollo and, uh, but it, but it's

01:46:40.040 not, I've not pandered.

01:46:41.600 I haven't pandered and neither has Richard on this count.

01:46:45.920 And, and, but on the other hand, it's also like not necessarily going to be appealing to

01:46:51.160 the left either.

01:46:51.900 Right.

01:46:52.880 Uh, so we're kind of in this little area where, um, you know, sometimes to tell the

01:46:58.180 truth is it's, I guess it's a cliche or whatever, but it is kind of lonely telling the truth.

01:47:03.760 Um, where you're not creating propaganda for either side, or you're not creating propaganda,

01:47:10.440 at least for a side that, that yet exists.

01:47:13.040 Now, I think that on some level, you know, what we're doing can be turned into propaganda,

01:47:19.520 you know, from our perspective, definitely that's part of the goal.

01:47:23.180 You know what I mean?

01:47:23.560 That's definitely part of the goal, but, um, it's a new, it's a completely new thing is

01:47:29.900 what I would say.

01:47:30.500 I would stress the sort of novelty of what we're doing.

01:47:33.740 Um, and it, because of that novelty though, and Richard will attest to this, um, you know, 0.97

01:47:42.020 in the DR, I'm fucking universally hated. 0.86

01:47:44.840 I mean, that's, that's just the facts, you know what I mean? 0.97

01:47:46.980 And you guys hear me talk on these shows. 0.99

01:47:48.380 It's not like I'm a, a real asshole or anything. 0.94

01:47:51.760 I'm like, I'm kind of a nice guy, I think. 0.92

01:47:54.460 Uh, and, but it's, this is the reason that I'm disliked is because I'm telling the truth

01:47:59.720 essentially. 0.99

01:48:00.860 And if, if they, they could just easily discount me and just be like, this guy's a moron, then 0.99

01:48:07.220 they would, they would try to debate me. 0.99

01:48:08.820 Like Tom would try to debate these guys.

01:48:11.120 All these guys would try to debate me on myth, right?

01:48:13.740 Which is my strong symbol in myth.

01:48:15.920 No one will touch that.

01:48:19.640 You know what I'm saying?

01:48:20.760 And a lot of it is just because they don't have, uh, the knowledge.

01:48:25.020 And also because they probably sense on some level that I'm actually correct.

01:48:29.220 Or that there's a lot that's sort of correct to my thesis and, you know, and they don't

01:48:36.020 want someone competing who has a more sophisticated thesis that's, uh, revealing and interesting

01:48:44.460 with what their sort of basic stuff essentially.

01:48:48.420 So they, they don't like that because they don't know it and they have to learn it now.

01:48:53.140 And they, and you know what I mean?

01:48:54.320 And they've already kind of taken positions on North Smith and so forth.

01:48:57.780 Uh, so they just want to censor it essentially, uh, or, you know, kind of de facto de-platform

01:49:04.080 it by not, you know, uh, acknowledging it and, you know, whispering in their little chat

01:49:10.700 rooms, like, Oh yeah, but not daring ever talk to me about it because they'd get, they'd

01:49:17.580 get the teeth kicked in basically.

01:49:18.740 Uh, and, uh, I think in any case, so it's, this work is necessary and important because

01:49:27.700 it's, and I'm not, you know, the conclusions I reach, I can, I reach because I believe them

01:49:33.440 to be true.

01:49:34.160 They seem to be true. 0.97

01:49:35.360 And I, and I prove them, I, I provide the evidence to why they, they, uh, why I've come

01:49:41.460 to these conclusions. 0.97

01:49:43.280 Um, and it's not to like piss people off or fuck with anyone or anything like that. 0.98

01:49:47.580 Uh, but rather it's quite the opposite. 0.93

01:49:49.660 It's to, uh, give us sort of the, the understanding, this sort of esoteric, uh, symbol knowledge and

01:49:56.440 understanding so that we can go forth and be dominant in this field.

01:50:01.220 Um, you know, and, uh, any, any case.

01:50:06.260 So I just thought I would add that.

01:50:08.500 Yeah.

01:50:09.240 Um, you, uh, I saw the comments on the, uh, my millennial, uh, discussion pretty

01:50:17.160 remarkable.

01:50:18.640 The haters are still out there.

01:50:20.600 They have nothing else to do.

01:50:21.560 Well, anyway.

01:50:22.500 Okay, guys, last chance to do predictions.

01:50:25.120 Cause I've got to actually run to dinner.

01:50:27.820 Um, does anyone want to speak up?

01:50:32.100 Uh, nuggets, nuggets are going to win the championship again.

01:50:36.580 Uh, are you, do they have an overall good team?

01:50:40.280 I just don't know enough about baseball.

01:50:42.660 I know.

01:50:43.600 Are there any other, I probably know basketball.

01:50:46.320 Actually, I see one basketball fan.

01:50:48.560 Yeah.

01:50:49.820 I think the, um, I think the Niners are going to put it together and win the Superbowl.

01:50:57.020 I would be, I have a, I have a UFC prediction.

01:50:59.420 I say Chandler beats Connor, uh, 55 to 45.

01:51:07.360 So blows him out basically.

01:51:10.700 Uh, you think, you think that it's, don't you think that Connor will get knocked out?

01:51:15.840 Um, I mean, it seems like he might get knocked out because he's slowed down and, uh, he doesn't

01:51:21.360 really run from a fight.

01:51:22.360 Does he?

01:51:23.340 I don't know, but I mean, he, he's an amazing counter puncher and, uh, that's going to play

01:51:28.600 very much into his hands when Chandler does his usual thing of, you know, uh, standing

01:51:33.260 and banging. 0.83

01:51:34.440 But then again, uh, my issue is Connor's fitness.

01:51:38.780 Like he's basically a pothead now.

01:51:41.220 He's probably a crackhead as well. 0.72

01:51:42.940 Um, and, you know, he's just not really taking things seriously. 0.96

01:51:47.380 Whereas Chandler is training his ass off and, you know, uh, people criticize Chandler's 0.83

01:51:53.340 conditioning, but like, if you look at the way he fights, I mean, he goes balls to the

01:51:56.940 wall from second zero until he can't anymore.

01:52:00.120 So it's not a conditioning issue.

01:52:02.280 It's, it's an energy efficiency issue.

01:52:04.220 And, um, I don't know, we'll, we'll see how, how it goes, you know, maybe, um, Chandler

01:52:09.240 decides, you know what?

01:52:09.960 Uh, I want to win more than I want to be entertaining and he might change his mind

01:52:13.700 about that.

01:52:14.220 But, uh, yeah, I mean, uh, Connor of course has a, has a chance.

01:52:17.800 He, I think he's the more skilled opponent, but, uh, against someone who's really hungry

01:52:23.200 and who's really trying and taking it seriously, you know, I think it tips it in favor of Chandler

01:52:28.020 by just a bit.

01:52:30.560 I w I would, I, yeah, I don't see assuming Connor comes back, right.

01:52:35.600 That it seems like that's still a question mark.

01:52:37.320 Oh, no, no.

01:52:37.940 He, he just confirmed it tonight.

01:52:39.900 Oh, sorry.

01:52:40.860 Yeah.

01:52:41.300 He was, uh, at a restaurant, I guess, or a, or a club.

01:52:44.220 And, uh, he was, uh, filming a selfie video where, you know, he's congratulating everyone.

01:52:49.820 And he made his big announcement that, uh, I think in May, maybe, or June, something like

01:52:55.040 that, the fight's going down.

01:52:56.420 And he actually make it to the fight.

01:52:57.760 Do you think he actually makes it to the fight?

01:52:59.120 Um, I don't know, man, that's a good question.

01:53:05.220 Yeah.

01:53:05.680 I mean, I, you know, and honestly, I would root for the guy, even though he, he doesn't

01:53:10.600 really deserve people's support at this point. 0.98

01:53:12.540 He's kind of a, he turned into kind of a shitty guy.

01:53:15.800 Um, but he's so entertaining and I do, you know, I still like him from the old days, but, 0.87

01:53:21.360 um, yeah, I don't, I don't see him beating Chandler.

01:53:25.880 I think Chandler would just beat him, um, you know, and Chandler, I think he's kind

01:53:31.620 of a flawed fighter too.

01:53:32.960 Um, but he's, uh, he's fun.

01:53:35.460 He's exciting and he's fun to watch.

01:53:37.560 The fight that I'm really looking forward to even more than that is the one with, uh,

01:53:41.540 Dreykus Duplessis and, um, the other guy, uh, the guy who was retarded. 0.98

01:53:47.540 What's his name?

01:53:49.360 Oh, Strickland.

01:53:50.760 Strickland.

01:53:51.260 Thank you.

01:53:51.760 Yeah.

01:53:52.020 Um, you know, I like, I like Dreykus. 0.90

01:53:54.340 Is he, I think he's a homosexual though. 1.00

01:53:56.300 I mean, not that it, that was just, I just found that surprising.

01:53:58.680 Is he a homosexual?

01:53:59.980 Do you know?

01:54:01.300 I, that's the first I hear of this.

01:54:03.800 Yeah.

01:54:04.240 I think there's images of him like kissing his, uh, coach on the lips.

01:54:08.760 Okay.

01:54:08.880 Guys, listen, I, I, I've got to go and we can't get into this.

01:54:14.120 Okay.

01:54:14.640 Okay.

01:54:15.400 Okay.

01:54:16.180 Okay.

01:54:16.640 It was just getting hot.

01:54:17.460 It was just getting hot.

01:54:18.560 Yeah.

01:54:19.100 Um, okay.

01:54:19.780 So anyway, uh, yeah, uh, best of luck for everyone.

01:54:24.040 And, um, yeah, you know, what is it next year in Jerusalem next year in Rome?

01:54:29.340 Maybe we should start saying that over and over, um, a tradition of that, but it's going

01:54:35.180 to be our year and that's going to be a good thing.

01:54:37.680 Yeah.

01:54:38.180 And so, uh, thank you so much for your, yeah, for your current support.

01:54:42.800 Uh, we're, we're overwhelmed by it and we're very, yeah.

01:54:46.360 Um, all right, I'll talk to you guys soon.

01:54:49.660 All right.

01:54:50.740 Bye guys.

01:54:51.980 Happy new year.

RadixJournal - January 01, 2024

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