RadixJournal - September 25, 2018


Perverted Victorianism


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 15 minutes

Words per Minute

156.82138

Word Count

11,896

Sentence Count

863

Misogynist Sentences

37

Hate Speech Sentences

57


Summary

On this week's episode of Thick & Thin, the boys talk about Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation to the Supreme Court, the Me Too movement, and the fact that women are still the perennial victims of the hypersexualized male gaze.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 It's interesting how this is basically a restatement a century and a half later of the Victorian mindset in which women are still the perennial victims and it's the supposed hypersexuality of the male that is corrupting the woman. So the woman is never wrong. It's a replay 150 years later.
00:00:30.000 Don Camillo, we're back. How have you been?
00:00:42.740 Long time no see. Good to hear from you again.
00:00:44.640 Yes, we've seen each other a couple of times, but we have not talked politics.
00:00:49.700 Just to compare mustache growth.
00:00:52.420 Yes, yes. You won.
00:00:56.080 I think you won in girth where I won in length.
00:01:03.320 Well, when Kavanaugh was first suggested, I was left cold, to be honest.
00:01:09.540 Right.
00:01:10.400 A lot of people I saw on alt-right Twitter were getting excited.
00:01:15.420 Oh, he's our guy. Look how much the liberals hate him.
00:01:18.940 And I was like, look, this guy is the ultimate expression of establishment, conservative, boring legalist.
00:01:29.760 I'm not that excited.
00:01:31.240 That doesn't mean that he's worse than most people or many of the people in the Supreme Court.
00:01:37.780 That doesn't mean that he is an admirable in some way.
00:01:40.100 Sure, I'll grant all of those things, but I've just never really been excited by the legalism.
00:01:48.260 And he does seem to check all the boxes for the conservative movement.
00:01:53.020 And I thought that we were about to go into a retro 1980s, 1990s Roe v. Wade culture war battle.
00:02:01.700 But instead of Roe v. Wade, it has been the nerds versus the chads.
00:02:08.460 And I mean, it's obviously post-Me Too.
00:02:12.020 I mean, no question.
00:02:13.560 But I think it's almost deeper because Me Too began in a way that I think more or less most people had at least some sympathy.
00:02:26.240 I mean, with Harvey Weinstein as the poster boy of this total creep, he's jacking off into potted plants.
00:02:37.740 He's just disgusting.
00:02:39.240 I mean, you know, it was just like, look, this guy's awful.
00:02:42.800 But we've gone to this extremism.
00:02:47.520 I mean, it's almost we could even compare it to the French Revolution, although no one's getting their head cut off.
00:02:53.240 But it's just not yet, please.
00:02:54.780 Yeah, not yet.
00:02:55.540 And it's just gotten it just keeps going deeper and deeper and more and more intense to the point that, you know, it really is about an attack on normal, though I will admit rather chatty and rather you could say stupid, but ultimately normal male sexuality, which is often stupid.
00:03:23.800 It is often aggressive.
00:03:26.020 It's often crude.
00:03:28.040 It's nothing to write poems about.
00:03:31.820 But it is what it is.
00:03:34.400 And like the level at which it's no longer even a sexual assault.
00:03:39.900 I mean, whether he put his hand over her and she thought she might inadvertently die or something like this.
00:03:45.060 It's it's no longer even sexual assault.
00:03:47.560 It's I mean, I was looking at The New York Times.
00:03:50.140 This is on my iPad, the front page, The New York Times digital version.
00:03:54.160 They're parsing, like doing exegesis of of his yearbook, high school yearbook.
00:04:03.500 Right.
00:04:03.660 Where they're like, oh, look, I think this this this this little, you know, innuendo or inside jokes.
00:04:10.740 And it seems to indicate that he's bragging about having sex with some slut at the Catholic girls school or something.
00:04:16.980 Right.
00:04:17.360 Like maybe he is, maybe he isn't.
00:04:19.760 But who cares?
00:04:21.360 This is this kind of behavior is so normal.
00:04:25.680 So like you could even say healthy at some level because it is what it is.
00:04:31.140 We're animals at some level.
00:04:33.440 We we're we we we we want sex.
00:04:37.020 We want conquest.
00:04:38.440 We want to have fun.
00:04:39.680 And we you know, there's a kind of male male competitiveness that goes into this of like, sure, did you did you get did you get to first base?
00:04:47.280 Did you get to third base?
00:04:48.900 Did she like you?
00:04:50.420 Are you going to are you going to do a keg stand for two minutes as opposed to break your own personal record?
00:04:55.640 You know, it's all this.
00:04:56.880 I think it is your book.
00:04:57.680 He even listed himself as king of the kegs or something like that.
00:05:00.500 It's just king of keg city.
00:05:03.000 I think.
00:05:04.240 And this is what is expected of people.
00:05:07.440 And, you know, I tweeted out this morning that I was like, I've just discovered this week that I have been the victim of multiple assaults by toxic females throughout college.
00:05:21.380 I don't know how many times definitively true if we're going to use their standard.
00:05:25.220 Exactly.
00:05:26.040 I'm ironically true.
00:05:28.560 Yeah.
00:05:29.700 Multiple times in high school and whatever.
00:05:33.540 There has been some situation where a girl has grabbed my crotch.
00:05:37.440 Grabbed my ass, flashed her boobs, like made weird bedroom eyes while chugging a tequila shot.
00:05:46.380 You know, I could go on.
00:05:48.020 I'm not proud of it.
00:05:49.760 It's yeah, it's stupid.
00:05:51.760 It's crude.
00:05:53.360 Whatever.
00:05:53.740 But like, again, this is it is basically the path of path of path of path of path of pathologizing what is ultimately normal behavior.
00:06:05.880 And it's like criminalizing what is ultimately normal behavior.
00:06:09.880 I mean, part of what you, you know, what you and I believe is that, yes, like we should discipline young people.
00:06:19.620 And yes, we should set examples and we should look to great heroes and and and also treat people, everyone with a certain decency.
00:06:30.100 Of course, we all believe that.
00:06:32.380 But that's all in the context of a lot of the time, not all of the time, but a lot of the time we act kind of stupid.
00:06:42.740 Yeah.
00:06:43.220 It's a reason why they're called formative years, you know, like these these experiences that we've just been discussing are what make a man a man, you know, to graduate, if you will, from boyhood to manhood.
00:06:56.960 There's a lot of this that needs to happen.
00:06:59.080 Does this mean I'm I'm I'm somehow apologizing for, you know, aggressive, drunken groping?
00:07:08.620 No, but it happens. And unless there's an actual victim in the true sense of the word, it's not a crime, period.
00:07:16.240 Like and the the what do you call it, the litigiousness of the current, you know, the current year trademarked is is ridiculous.
00:07:25.140 And, you know, basically to to riff off of your I guess your opening statement, if you will, you use a couple of words that in any other context, in any other generation or century would have been just, you know, whatever.
00:07:38.620 Throw away words that are completely contextually accurate, but that today set off, you know, trigger warnings for leftists.
00:07:46.460 And one of them that you used, two of them that you used were normal and healthy.
00:07:50.800 And that's actually what we're getting at here is, you know, when we entered this nomination process, you mentioned how it might become a rerun of the Roeview Wade years.
00:08:02.520 And actually, there was enough coverage out there in the normie press that it did seem that that was going to happen.
00:08:08.580 That was the first angle of attack they wanted to get him on.
00:08:11.360 And you had all these signs, you know, he's going to he's going to fuck with your reproductive rights.
00:08:16.520 You know, it's another white male trying to tell women how to what they can do with their bodies.
00:08:21.340 So it did start that way. And that's what's funny is it degenerated into different different attack patterns by the left because they know they weren't getting any traction.
00:08:32.160 So once they tried, you know, the first sortie, which was a replay of Roe and that didn't work, then they went at it with the, you know, the Anita Hill attack because that's kind of me too again.
00:08:47.140 But like you said, he's no Weinstein. He's just he's a waspy, normal dude who happens to be, you know, he's he's not even normal.
00:08:57.260 He's like more boring. Yeah, he's very poor than the vast majority of men, you know, especially since, you know, you know, doxed.
00:09:06.500 I'm a Washingtonian. I know the references. This guy's he went to he went to Georgetown Prep.
00:09:10.960 He lives in Chevy Chase. He's he's he's he's Catholic, but he may he may as well be a Presbyterian wasp.
00:09:16.400 He's very midday. He's a George Bush appointee. He's he's boring.
00:09:20.660 He's he's a D.C. neocon boring, you know.
00:09:23.120 But yeah. So anyway, the third angle of attack is just when nothing works, because, I mean, we all know how poorly the the the sexual assault allegations have gone so much so that the first girl, Blasey Ford or whatever her name is, she couldn't remember the year, the place, the day, the time, what house, with whom she was.
00:09:43.880 So now they're suddenly pulling up these new girls, you know, because they're they're backup crisis actors, if you will.
00:09:51.300 I'm using that very tongue in cheek. But yeah, they're pulling out new girls now to to accuse him.
00:09:57.900 The latest one said that he exposed his genitals when she was at Yale.
00:10:02.680 No one they have yet to find someone to corroborate that story.
00:10:05.500 So at the end of the day, it is now what it is, what you said earlier, kind of the the the the Virgin Neat versus the the Chad, the Chad Yaley, you know, whatever, frat bro.
00:10:19.880 And that's what it's become, because now we're finally getting to the essence of what this whole cultural Marxism attacks.
00:10:25.520 Exactly. So which is an attack on male sexuality, male sexuality and and which is which is pretty fundamental.
00:10:33.240 I'm not going to brush that off like that isn't something that's huge.
00:10:36.460 But even like if I could even go a step further, it's an attack on the words you used earlier, which are norms and healthy.
00:10:44.020 Yeah. Like the very fact that you have a norm norm implies normality.
00:10:47.760 What do you hear from, you know, the fucking disgusting land whale, you know, blue haired armpit hair, nose, nose piercing tattooed girls is, you know, heteronormativity.
00:11:00.520 These made up neologisms of the 21st century norms is always a part of what they're attacking because they much like, you know, you have certain ethnic groups who only thrive in societies that are no longer homogenous.
00:11:13.660 That's one angle. The other angle is you have certain, you know, kind of fucked up sexual perversions and and people who aren't all there mentally who can only thrive in a society where there are no norms.
00:11:25.040 And so those, you know, two groups, you know, ally because they go very well hand in hand in if you're able to pull down the barriers that the retaining walls, the dams of of heteronormativity and of ethnic homogeneity and linguistic coherence,
00:11:45.020 because now words don't mean anything anymore either, then you'll be able to, you know, there'll be fish in water.
00:11:51.140 These people that are, you know, not normal, the trannies, the gays, the the lesbians, the the bi's, the polyamorous, the et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
00:12:00.480 Yeah, I would take a I agree with everything you said. I would take a slightly different angle as well.
00:12:05.780 And, you know, we we obviously live in a decadent, degenerate culture and conservatives point this out.
00:12:18.820 They're of course right. But to be honest, it's kind of easy to point it out at this point.
00:12:23.460 I mean, you know, yeah, you know, just surprise.
00:12:28.500 Right. Every streaming show, which I think are interesting because that really gets at like, you could say the vanguard of the mainstream,
00:12:39.100 like that's kind of showing where the mainstream is going.
00:12:43.660 It is about like multiple hookups, manipulation, you know, random sex and, you know, it's just all totally out there.
00:12:55.120 Sure. The sexualization of teens and preteens has gotten to a point that I never even imagined.
00:13:04.620 I mean, I remember the problem in the 90s growing up was that a lot of these girls who were like 13 or 14 wanted to be like Britney Spears.
00:13:11.980 So they were dressing like, you know, sluts based strippers when they were 14.
00:13:18.780 And it was like, oh, my God, this is terrible.
00:13:20.040 Now, that almost seems wholesome at this point, because that in itself is like heteronormative and like, you know, what we're doing now is questioning their their sexual identity when they're 12.
00:13:34.540 Like it is so I mean, we're lucky, 12 for lucky.
00:13:39.520 I know these are outlier examples I'm going to cite.
00:13:41.740 Right. But, you know, as well as I do, because we have the same reading, I guess, you know, very well, there are kids that are beginning hormone therapy at like three, four, five, six, seven years old.
00:13:51.540 So, like, yeah, I mean, I know I know I'm picking I'm explicit.
00:13:56.460 I'm explicitly picking, you know, extreme examples of which there were, thank God, very few.
00:14:00.720 But like 12 year old girls is like, you know, wait, you're not you're not knocked up by the Mexican dishwasher yet with whom you will not be married.
00:14:08.720 You know, like that's that's ridiculous. You know, what are you doing?
00:14:11.160 Right. Yeah.
00:14:12.080 But I guess what I was getting at is that, yes, I agree.
00:14:16.960 We live in a society that you could think of as sexually insane and degenerate and then also decadent kind of in a, you know, in a more in a higher sense of that term of, you know, people just, you know, indulging in consumerism and, you know, going to Vegas and, you know, you know, whatever.
00:14:41.680 But our society is still deeply puritanical and it's puritanical at the same time that it's degenerate and decadent and to misunderstand the puritanism at the heart of this is to misunderstand everything because we aren't entering this, you know, it's that we aren't entering this just world where, oh, anything goes.
00:15:10.740 And, you know, you know, you can just go and have sex with anyone and who, you know, who's in your apartment building or your workplace.
00:15:19.360 It's all fun and games. Go at it. You know, go have sex with your dog or, you know, whatever.
00:15:25.080 You know, it's it's we don't really live in that situation.
00:15:28.020 We live in a highly almost Victorian level, like hypersensitivity towards sex.
00:15:35.460 And so, like, again, a woman who sleeps around and so on.
00:15:43.740 Oh, this is great. Don't sweat, shame her.
00:15:45.940 She's a hero, stunning and brave, blah, blah, blah.
00:15:48.640 But the moment that, you know, Jim in her office at the, you know, at the office Christmas party and has three eggnogs and gets a little creepy and puts his hand on her arm or something.
00:16:03.200 Oh, my God, this is like a literal holocaust.
00:16:07.020 Like she has PTSD, like, you know, and I'm not even joking.
00:16:11.160 Like that kind of stuff is entering the mainstream of human resources departments.
00:16:17.080 And it's like which, you know, shouldn't exist in the first place.
00:16:19.720 Yeah, exactly. But but again, it's like it's this weird we live in this and it almost in order for it to, like, maintain order, it's got to, like, flip between degeneracy and puritanism.
00:16:32.720 I think I've mentioned this on our podcast before, but I remember someone sent this to me or I think they sent it to me on Twitter.
00:16:40.600 And there was right at the height of Me Too, of hashtag Me Too, post Weinstein, all that kind of stuff.
00:16:46.740 There is this BuzzFeed article that came out that was like, read all our sexy stories.
00:16:54.240 Yeah.
00:16:54.340 About, you know, these are sent in from real BuzzFeed readers, sexy stories.
00:16:59.860 And there was one in which a girl said, oh, you know, I stayed after work with my boss, with one of my bosses, and we actually had to do a project.
00:17:10.440 And so we were there, you know, past past midnight.
00:17:13.620 And, you know, after we had completed the project, you know, we were both we've been into each other.
00:17:18.960 And so we just went at it and, like, I went to the I came in with no panties under my dress and we had sex on his desk and we did, you know.
00:17:30.240 Yeah, right.
00:17:31.260 All right.
00:17:31.740 Typical, you know, little.
00:17:33.940 Yeah, Mad Men basically.
00:17:35.300 Yeah.
00:17:35.560 Mad Men era, you know, whatever.
00:17:37.820 And again, what was so interesting about that is that she's bragging about it.
00:17:42.660 She's publishing it anonymously on BuzzFeed.
00:17:45.740 10 years later, if she wants to decapitate her boss figuratively and maybe literally, she could come back, cite that BuzzFeed article as evidence of sexual assault.
00:17:59.680 Because there's no question.
00:18:01.020 He was her boss.
00:18:02.000 He was, I imagine he was older than she was.
00:18:05.520 He's her superior in the workplace.
00:18:10.140 He, you know, maybe got to choose whether she got a raise or a bonus or whatever.
00:18:15.340 Like, he was her superior in this hierarchy.
00:18:18.660 Right, there's a whole bunch of implications there.
00:18:20.020 Yeah.
00:18:20.460 And, yes, this kind of little sexual liaison, these things are normal, you know, whatever.
00:18:27.040 I don't even really judge them.
00:18:29.060 Maybe it's whatever.
00:18:31.460 He took a little trifle.
00:18:32.800 But it's like, that kind of stuff is fun when the woman says that this is her choice and it was so great.
00:18:43.180 It's horrifying and criminal the moment that she decides it's not her choice.
00:18:49.940 And the same certainly goes for college date rape.
00:18:52.120 I mean, you know, we know the stories of you regret getting drunk.
00:18:56.720 You wake up with some doofus and he's not the, you know, hot quarterback that you imagined.
00:19:04.040 And so you claim rape out of regret, out of bitterness, out of inner nihilism, maybe out of who knows, shame, whatever.
00:19:14.880 But it's total bullshit.
00:19:17.260 And so we have this weird aspect to our society where we're both degenerate and decadent and hyper-puritan at the same time.
00:19:26.620 I mean, this is very foundational in the American psyche because, obviously, you know, I would be condescending to our listeners if I had to go through and explain what Plymouth Rock meant.
00:19:39.480 But they know about the founding of this country.
00:19:41.800 They know very well about, you know, kind of the foundational ethos, the myth of kind of these stiff upper lip wasps in the Northeast who basically applied these norms.
00:19:56.700 They weren't degeneracy back then, but that same Victorianism, as you put it, basically we're using the same mental framework, the same matrix.
00:20:05.560 But we're just inverting.
00:20:07.440 We're inverting it.
00:20:08.580 I mean, to put it very simply.
00:20:09.680 There's new rules.
00:20:12.100 There are new codes.
00:20:13.560 There are new little tongue-in-cheek references that you have to tailor to each generation.
00:20:19.760 So, like, you know, for example, let's go back to the original Victorian era under Queen Victoria in Britain.
00:20:25.460 You know, a girl was supposed to arrive, you know, virgin at marriage.
00:20:29.580 Obviously, that goes without saying.
00:20:31.460 And she also had to marry within her class, preferably above her station if she could, because, you know, the mothers were constantly acting like, you know, Jewish matchmakers looking for the best bang for their daughter's buck.
00:20:46.840 Or for their buck.
00:20:47.980 Yeah, right, exactly.
00:20:49.980 And in essence, you had all these stories where you could – as long as those three or four things I just said remained at the bottom of every marriage story, you could tweak – you could actually have a lot of extraneous factors as long as you could still fit them in the narrative.
00:21:10.220 So, all right, she was virgin at marriage.
00:21:12.900 That doesn't mean that she didn't go to the south of France, which back then was very far away from Britain before telegraphs and telegrams and telephones.
00:21:21.680 And you could hang out with, you know, either your lesbian school friend from your school days or you did have a male lover but he only put it in the butt or you slept with a man but at least he was of a higher social standing than you so it suddenly became okay.
00:21:38.540 You know, you had – Victorianism had ways of playing with its own rules.
00:21:44.200 And this is kind of what we're talking about today here in this context as well.
00:21:46.840 So the new Victorianism is, as you put it, Richard, a girl can, you know, whore it up, up and down, left and right, six ways from Sunday.
00:21:55.260 But then, of course, you have the factor of, you know, oh my god, was it your boss?
00:22:00.080 Did he make some move that was unwelcome?
00:22:04.680 So I think it is – the comparison of Victorianism is a very good one because you have base rules that are the same but then you just tweak them to fit the current social paradigm.
00:22:14.660 And back then they were just as hypocritical as they are today.
00:22:17.760 The left of today is the inheritor of that kind of Jesuitical double talk.
00:22:25.820 But it's a little bit different because it's in a way not hypocritical because, you know, like what you were saying of, oh yeah, I'm a virgin or like I'm a good bride.
00:22:36.160 Maybe I'm not quite a virgin, but I'm decent and beautiful and I'm going to be a good mother, but maybe I had this little tragic tryst, you know, in my past or something.
00:22:48.080 That we don't speak –
00:22:49.320 Right, and that's the stuff of a novel or that's hypocritical in the best sense of the word and in the sense that you give value to the norm, a norm in the sense of an ideal.
00:23:04.400 You give value to the norm, but you maybe can't reach it because no one can.
00:23:08.160 We're all human after all.
00:23:09.920 But what we have now isn't really – it's not hypocritical in a way.
00:23:15.440 Like it's good to go be a raging slut.
00:23:20.420 Like that's hilarious and fun.
00:23:22.200 You should just get what's yours, girl.
00:23:25.320 Yeah, slay queen.
00:23:27.060 Right, but the moment there's – A, men doing the same thing is viewed as just completely toxic and awful, you know.
00:23:39.560 So a woman doing it is stunning and brave.
00:23:42.060 A man doing it is toxic and evil.
00:23:45.240 But also it's like it exists within it.
00:23:48.600 Like you do this openly.
00:23:49.760 All of these women, Dr. Ford and all these people, these weird Gen X cat ladies, I can say that as a Gen Xer.
00:24:02.140 It's now time – we're now gone from – we're no longer bashing the boomers.
00:24:05.440 Like we're now bashing my generation.
00:24:07.800 But anyway, yeah, she can have multiple affairs, multiple one-night stands.
00:24:15.360 It's all fine.
00:24:16.940 Like it's all in the open and it's all expected.
00:24:19.120 It's not hidden.
00:24:20.380 It's not hypocritical.
00:24:21.960 It's this weird Puritanism that exists within degeneracy.
00:24:26.100 And the other aspect of it, which is that the Victorians, to a fault, men did not understand female sexuality.
00:24:34.560 And they had a prudish understanding of women.
00:24:37.360 They thought of them as innocent flowers who could be corrupted by male fatality and they're just – something like that.
00:24:44.640 That's a wrong understanding.
00:24:46.260 Women are intensely sexual.
00:24:48.180 They have sexual desire.
00:24:50.020 It's certainly different.
00:24:51.020 It's a different sexual desire than man's, no question.
00:24:53.940 But because it's different, we are almost blind to it as men.
00:24:58.140 Whereas women always understand male sexuality.
00:25:01.520 That's one thing about women.
00:25:02.960 Women, like they get us and we don't get them.
00:25:07.940 Women know exactly how to push our buttons and to attract us.
00:25:11.760 They're amazingly good at it.
00:25:13.940 They laugh behind their backs about how easy we are to manipulate.
00:25:20.900 But the Victorians basically promoted this prudish, sentimentalized, naive vision of the female.
00:25:31.100 And we're doing that again.
00:25:35.780 Where, like, you know, I don't know.
00:25:38.320 No one – I know this sounds kind of funny.
00:25:40.760 But, like, no one has asked in all this, like, what about – is Kavanaugh a victim?
00:25:47.560 You know?
00:25:47.940 You know?
00:25:48.360 Like, okay, let's say that the second story is actually true.
00:25:53.380 And to be honest, if it is true that he, like, rubbed his dick in the girl's face or something like that, if that is true, I don't think that disqualifies them.
00:26:05.600 I think it demonstrates that he was acting like an idiot.
00:26:08.560 But let's imagine his story.
00:26:11.100 Again, this probably isn't true.
00:26:13.100 But let's just imagine that it is.
00:26:14.920 So they're all there.
00:26:16.440 They're all young 19, 20-year-olds.
00:26:20.040 They're immature.
00:26:21.740 They lack confidence.
00:26:23.580 They don't know who they are.
00:26:24.580 They're making these life decisions.
00:26:26.140 They don't – they're not – you know, whenever you're in college, you, like, change majors.
00:26:30.160 You change what you want to be when you grow up, you know, every week.
00:26:32.600 I mean, it's typical.
00:26:33.980 And they're getting drunk.
00:26:35.480 They don't know how to – they don't know how to enjoy alcohol.
00:26:37.740 They just chug it away.
00:26:40.240 Maybe someone had some marijuana.
00:26:41.740 You know, maybe he's a victim of this weird, stupid dorm room sexual abuse thing.
00:26:48.940 You know, there are no male victims.
00:26:51.240 It's all these precious women who are inherently innocent to these evil, conniving men who are doing this.
00:26:58.600 And this is just total nonsense.
00:27:00.520 It's interesting how this is basically a restatement a century and a half later of the Victorian mindset in which women are still the perennial victims.
00:27:10.080 And it's the supposed hypersexuality of the male that is corrupting the woman.
00:27:16.040 So the woman is never wrong.
00:27:17.440 It's a replay 150 years later.
00:27:20.200 It's kind of – it's actually quite fascinating.
00:27:21.820 Yeah.
00:27:22.820 Yeah.
00:27:23.680 So we actually haven't overcome the past.
00:27:27.640 All of these progressives want to pat themselves on the back.
00:27:33.020 They're just on this moral wave.
00:27:35.340 We just keep going forward.
00:27:37.360 We just keep understanding more and more rights.
00:27:40.820 We keep learning more about the human condition.
00:27:43.680 We just keep getting better and, you know, et cetera.
00:27:46.660 And it's just all nonsense.
00:27:48.360 We actually haven't overcome some of the basic weaknesses of the 19th century West.
00:27:56.400 And that includes the utter sentimentalization of females as inherent victims, as innocent, as guileless, and so on.
00:28:10.000 And that's just – again, it's a total misunderstanding of women.
00:28:14.080 But it's funny not to – I know you're going to probably call me back to order after I derail this for a second because I'm going to leave the realm of human sexuality.
00:28:25.140 But I just wanted to riff off of the comment that we really haven't moved past the 19th century in many ways.
00:28:32.000 That's actually the big brain nibba woke take on this is we really haven't – I mean, you know, real trads, real perennialists or, you know, René Ganon posting realize that man has never changed and never will basically ever from all time.
00:28:48.700 We have the same foibles that are, you know, our ancestors, 1,000 generations removed when we were, you know, branching off our monkeys.
00:28:57.860 We still have those same foibles.
00:29:00.040 But the 19th century is an interesting – the late 19th century, beginning of the 20th century.
00:29:05.320 I would say pre-World War I Europe is the world we still live in.
00:29:10.340 And a normie would hear that and say, this kid's retarded.
00:29:14.640 I have an iPad.
00:29:15.540 What does he mean by that?
00:29:16.480 But what I mean is a lot of the norms that we still adhere to subconsciously, men still wear suits when they go to work.
00:29:25.460 That's kind of a late 19th century, early 20th century development.
00:29:29.020 The car, the tramway, the metro – yeah, they didn't have jet planes.
00:29:35.140 But we were basically using the same, you know, methods of transport.
00:29:39.840 The Westphalian system of nation-states respecting the lines on the map to an almost retarded autistic extent.
00:29:49.920 That's also a holdover of that era of Europe.
00:29:53.880 And I could go on.
00:29:55.120 It's just interesting how we – there's two major fault lines in the white European psyche that we haven't been able to overcome,
00:30:02.900 no matter how much, you know, societal and civilizational therapy we put ourselves through.
00:30:08.780 And that's 1914 and 1945.
00:30:12.380 1914 is where we're stuck when I – all those things I just mentioned, the suit, the car, the Westphalian lines on the European map.
00:30:19.500 And then 1945 is because we, you know, we then replaced – we did something catastrophic and life-altering is we replaced the conventional,
00:30:31.360 traditional religions of Europe with the religion of what was supposed to have happened to the most oppressed race of people of all time during that war,
00:30:41.940 having replaced everything else as the central religion of our times.
00:30:45.200 And so those two big fault lines in our minds, in our – we're still PTSD'd from it.
00:30:51.780 And it's funny that basically sexuality comes in in the sense that if we are able to hold over everything else I just cited from 1914 or before,
00:31:03.000 then it makes sense that sexuality would as well.
00:31:04.940 We are still living the long century, you know, that was supposed to have ended, you know, 1815 to 1914.
00:31:11.760 I think we're still in the Congress of Vienna mindset.
00:31:15.200 Yeah.
00:31:15.780 Yeah.
00:31:16.720 Yeah.
00:31:17.600 Eric Hobsbawm, I think, called it the long 20th century.
00:31:22.960 Yeah.
00:31:23.520 I'm not sure it ended in 2001.
00:31:26.080 I don't think it ended in 1989, 91 with the fall of the Soviet Union.
00:31:31.580 I agree.
00:31:32.920 I think we are still in it in many ways.
00:31:35.980 We're still certainly in the shadow of the nuclear age and so on.
00:31:39.260 So we – yeah, we're still in the 20th century.
00:31:41.280 Like geopolitically, we've definitely – the two dates you cited are watersheds.
00:31:46.360 You know, 91 is a watershed and 2001 is a watershed.
00:31:50.140 Sure.
00:31:50.720 For the purposes of, you know, the big risk board at the UN, you know, in a way, we've – those are watersheds.
00:31:58.000 But in our minds, deeply, profoundly, in the reptilian, you know, back mind, the mind that's connected to the spinal cord and that teaches us about sex and propriety and mores, we're still in the 19th century.
00:32:10.460 It's – European man hasn't left and because the world basically, despite itself, despite the left's best efforts, is nothing more than an aping parody of European man.
00:32:22.400 As a result, everyone is still stuck in this, like, Congress of Vienna, Europe, sexually as well.
00:32:27.460 And we're still going through a religious crisis that we haven't fully overcome.
00:32:34.840 I mean, the kind of thing that Nietzsche was reacting to in the mid to late 19th century in terms of the loss of faith, we're still there.
00:32:46.060 Yeah, definitely.
00:32:46.760 And again, I think also, just to even go back, we've certainly lost traditional Christianity.
00:32:55.620 And what these, you know, American conservatives think of as Christianity is just, like, maul self-esteem theology, basically.
00:33:04.860 Right.
00:33:05.040 But we basically have adopted liberalism as a form of public Christianity where we all talk about, you know, St. Martin Luther King and our belief in democracy and equality and so on.
00:33:22.440 Yeah, I saw today one of the future icons where you and I will once be, in the future, forced to pour libations to just went up today in Geneva at the UN.
00:33:35.540 They unveiled an enormous bronze statue of Nelson Mandela.
00:33:39.620 It's much fanfare.
00:33:40.700 So one day when, you know, during the famous persecutions of Diocletian, the last and arguably most bloody of the persecutions during the end of the Roman Empire before Constantine didn't make the Christian religion the state religion, but at least passed an edict of toleration.
00:33:58.620 During the Diocletian persecutions, the way you would do it is you would, if you had a suspected Christian, you would drag him in front of a pagan idol, whether it was the statue of the deified emperor, the emperor Augustus, or one of the very many, you know, subaltern gods.
00:34:17.260 And you would force him or her to pour a libation or pay, you know, a coin in guise of, what do you call it, of sacrifice.
00:34:30.380 And if they refused, they would kill them.
00:34:32.120 And in a way, every time I see one of our guys' statues go down, you know, whether it be a Confederate general or someone else, and when I see statues of Mandela and other shitbags like him go up,
00:34:43.080 I'm always struck by that example because I know that one day that's going to be, they are the god emperors to whom we will be expected to pour libations.
00:34:52.280 And if we refuse, we won't be killed in the same way, but we will be killed in the 21st century way, which is depersoning electronically, financially, fiscally, jurisdictionally, etc.
00:35:06.820 And yeah, it's shocking.
00:35:08.620 Yeah, no question. And it is interesting when we go back to Kavanaugh, the degree to which he is helpless in all this.
00:35:17.700 I was just watching his Fox interview, because we're recording this on Monday night.
00:35:23.580 I was watching his, you know, he did a friendly interview, you know, it was on Fox, but it was, you know, she was Gretchen Crowe.
00:35:30.920 It was one of those blondes. I can't remember which one.
00:35:33.540 They're always one.
00:35:34.580 Yeah, they kind of are.
00:35:36.260 But she was, you know, she was diving in there a little bit.
00:35:41.100 He indicated that he was a virgin throughout high school, into college and so on, which is pretty...
00:35:48.820 Full cell supremacy.
00:35:50.500 Yes, full cell.
00:35:53.780 But he's so helpless to this.
00:35:58.520 At one point she asked, she goes, where is this coming from?
00:36:01.480 And so on. He goes, I don't know, but I just want a fair process.
00:36:04.800 He's like, I won't speculate on motives.
00:36:06.260 He kept saying that over and over.
00:36:08.120 That's his nerdy juror, you know...
00:36:11.220 I know, he's a legalist.
00:36:12.860 And it's all about being fair and following the law and, you know, all this kind of stuff.
00:36:17.860 But that's nonsense.
00:36:19.200 Like, this is about power.
00:36:20.840 We know where this is coming from.
00:36:22.660 They want to destroy you.
00:36:24.220 They want to destroy normal male heterosexuality.
00:36:30.480 And they are doing it.
00:36:32.480 And it's not about fairness.
00:36:33.840 Like, you can keep claiming fairness.
00:36:36.060 But the fact is, in any kind of normal society, I mean, you know, in the ancient world or in most America,
00:36:43.540 if you learned of some person up for a big job, what he got drunk and grabbed a girl's tits when he was 19,
00:36:52.680 who cares?
00:36:54.580 Who conceivably cares?
00:36:57.440 We'd be kind of worried if someone hadn't done something stupid when they were 17.
00:37:02.780 I could almost like my grandfather, who would tell me, like, well, did you get some?
00:37:05.860 And if I'd say no, he'd be like, are you kidding me?
00:37:08.080 Like, what are you...
00:37:08.860 Like, are you...
00:37:09.580 What?
00:37:10.800 I'm paying this much for you to go to school and you're not?
00:37:12.940 Yeah, and he gets into all of that, like, Christian sentimentality that, again, jives with feminism.
00:37:20.140 So he's like, I have always treated every woman with decency.
00:37:24.660 I mean, have you talked about treating men with decency?
00:37:27.180 Or, I mean, you know, it's just like this...
00:37:29.160 Again, it's just women are this special, precious being.
00:37:33.960 Non-human, almost.
00:37:35.440 Like, angelic and not fallen.
00:37:38.700 To quote, putify is the world of respecting women.
00:37:41.060 It's just, it's the world we live in now.
00:37:43.220 It's become nonsense.
00:37:44.620 I like using his ridiculous Swedish accent because it's as nonsensical as its accent.
00:37:50.460 Respecting women has become like a...
00:37:52.720 It's a mantra.
00:37:53.700 It has been completely rendered devoid of its inner meaning.
00:37:58.280 It doesn't mean shit anymore.
00:37:59.520 It's just...
00:38:00.100 It's a mind control tool just like racist and sexist and anti-Semite and, you know, homophobe and transphobe.
00:38:09.300 They're literal words that were very intelligently cooked up by people who have an excellent revolutionary understanding of language.
00:38:20.260 And they know how to weaponize it against us.
00:38:22.040 And so respecting women is one of those things.
00:38:25.180 And to your point about it not being applied to men, and you'll notice, as all our listeners have noticed over the last 10 years or so, that we...
00:38:33.980 Probably even more than 10 years.
00:38:35.320 It's just it's accelerating the last 10 years.
00:38:37.440 But, you know, how long has affirmative action been around?
00:38:39.760 40 years?
00:38:40.540 45 years?
00:38:41.520 Something like that?
00:38:42.120 Yeah.
00:38:42.760 The Nixon administration, I think it was suggested by Kennedy.
00:38:47.080 It really got going under Nixon.
00:38:49.080 So, yeah, let's look at 1970.
00:38:51.440 Yeah.
00:38:52.040 Yeah, that sounds about right.
00:38:53.160 And so, basically, it's...
00:38:55.720 Let's assume...
00:38:57.540 I'm doing the same thing you did earlier when we assumed a totally bullshit point is valid.
00:39:02.340 For the sake of argument, let's assume that there is some sort of, you know, disparate outcome among the races and genders where it comes to higher education.
00:39:14.320 Whatever.
00:39:14.840 However, we've decided now in America that it's no longer a question of freedom of opportunity.
00:39:21.400 It has to be equality of outcome as well, which is ridiculous.
00:39:24.780 But because of that, we've constantly been giving a leg up to everyone and their mom except straight white men and recently Asians as well, East Asians.
00:39:35.260 Yeah.
00:39:35.380 But we don't even question that anymore.
00:39:37.920 And now we've gotten to the point where the reverse problem is such that even if we wanted to question it, because now we're actually encountering cases of...
00:39:49.400 And I'm sure most of the kids listening in of my generation who were part of that bump, that demographic bump in the mid-2000s that tried to apply to the Ivy Leagues and got waitlisted or rejected or, you know, whatever, can commiserate with me on this point.
00:40:03.180 But we're now reaching points of insanity on race and gender where affirmative action is concerned that you even have the Asians bringing court cases.
00:40:14.200 I know the Supreme Court accepted on their docket this year.
00:40:16.420 They're going to hear a case out of Harvard where I think it's a bunch of Korean Americans that are complaining about reverse discrimination.
00:40:22.020 The sex thing is also part of that nebulous class of perennial victims where, like you said earlier, Richard, women are perfect blossoms that can do no wrong and never lie.
00:40:36.260 Men are starting to question that.
00:40:38.500 And it's not going to end well for anyone, just like the race thing won't end well for anyone, because for too long we've been written off as we are born into some sort of nonsensical privilege.
00:40:50.140 And there's nothing we can do about it.
00:40:53.540 You can't keep an entire class of people down like that for long.
00:40:56.720 It will blow up.
00:40:58.000 And they don't know what's coming to them.
00:40:59.520 It's going to end very poorly for others.
00:41:01.720 Well, there's going to have to be a reassertion of patriarchy, I mean, to put it mildly.
00:41:08.500 And it's not going to be the beta, you know, Christian patriarchy that we see.
00:41:15.300 You know, whenever people are like, oh, there's traditional values among Americans.
00:41:19.300 Like, it's not just going to be, you know, beta providers.
00:41:24.920 That is great.
00:41:26.120 And that is actually something to be aspired to.
00:41:28.580 And that is, they truly make the world go round because, you know, everything has to work.
00:41:34.940 Everything has to run on time.
00:41:36.380 They are essential and indispensable.
00:41:39.940 No question.
00:41:40.500 But, you know, just being, just working nine to five, yeah, just working nine to five so that you can afford a flat screen in your exurban home, you know, that's not it.
00:41:56.060 That's not what we're talking about.
00:41:57.200 There's nothing truly traditionalist.
00:41:59.300 It's monogamous, but it's not really traditionalist.
00:42:02.200 And they're just, there's going to have to be a reassertion of patriarchy or this, this revenge is going to start to take on pretty extreme proportions.
00:42:13.380 And, and again, I don't, you know, again, I don't like, most of the victims of Me Too, I don't like, you know, Weinstein, Charlie Rose, Matt Lauer, Al Franken.
00:42:26.280 I mean, no, I'm not, I don't like any of these people.
00:42:28.460 I don't shed tears.
00:42:30.580 There was actually some Antifa journalist who's now like a toxic man.
00:42:35.160 I'm forgetting his name.
00:42:36.440 What is his name?
00:42:37.240 Nick.
00:42:38.020 So I can't remember.
00:42:39.220 It's this, you know, this guy who's, he wrote for Mike.com or something.
00:42:42.780 I had heard his name before.
00:42:44.080 I can't remember what it is.
00:42:45.560 He's just been outed.
00:42:46.680 He, they're not even accusing him of, of beating, slapping women or raping them or there's nothing even like that.
00:42:53.820 It's like, he's being manipulative and gaslighting.
00:42:56.580 He's acting like a woman, basically.
00:42:59.940 But you know, all the, all the names you cited, you know, I'm not going to go through them all, but the, the, the list that began with Weinstein, you know, and they're all pretty, pretty despicable characters.
00:43:09.340 No one was going to stand up for them.
00:43:10.720 No.
00:43:11.040 Um, but that's the case with this Kavanaugh guy.
00:43:13.820 The contrast is such that he's literally the good guy that the boring Bob next door, you know, he's like one of these guys that I'm sure a lot of our listeners are, you know, upper middle class white guys from suburban areas around the country.
00:43:28.140 Our listeners are 80% African American females.
00:43:32.280 Of course.
00:43:32.740 Yeah.
00:43:33.160 Uh, but for some of the white guys listening, no, I, and especially in that, not just, not just the racial angle, which I, you know, could have, uh, could have guessed.
00:43:45.320 But, um, just also that socioeconomic bracket, he's the, he's the dad in the track suit who bring, you know, on, he's a high power, high powered attorney in the weekdays.
00:43:56.280 And on the weekend he wears the new balance and he looks like a nerd and he's got the Starbucks and he's bringing his daughter or son to lax practice.
00:44:04.740 And like, this is who we're talking about.
00:44:07.280 So he's not a Weinstein.
00:44:09.060 This is Richard's point from the beginning when he was talking like half an hour ago about this is an attack on actual, we've gotten down to brass tacks.
00:44:17.180 This is where the left actually wanted to bring us a specific part of the left.
00:44:20.640 The really rabid, really Talmudic left.
00:44:24.740 This is where they wanted to get to.
00:44:26.080 This is the kernel of truth that they've been trying to hide under words like, um, you know, equality of, of, of outcome and it's going to be kumbaya.
00:44:36.160 Like we need to be a little racist against whites and a little sexist against, uh, men and a little ageist against old white men because it'll lead to a fair world.
00:44:46.280 No, that was yesterday's narrative.
00:44:48.120 Today's narrative is if you are a man, period, you are wrong.
00:44:52.200 Yeah.
00:44:52.720 And that's what we're getting to.
00:44:54.020 It's ridiculous.
00:44:54.720 Yeah.
00:44:55.400 Yeah.
00:44:56.080 And so there's going to have to be a reassertion of power.
00:45:00.820 This, this isn't just about being a nice beta provider and not rocking the boat, you know, paying your mortgage and your car loan or whatever.
00:45:10.780 No, that is, that is actually great.
00:45:12.540 I don't mean to demean anyone, but, uh, that is not enough.
00:45:16.840 There is going to be, have to be a reassertion of political, social and cultural patriarchal authority or our society.
00:45:25.840 Our society will degenerate into this just insane version of what we have now.
00:45:32.020 Well, you know, it's not about this.
00:45:33.560 I get this sometimes I've gotten this from even some of the older people in the movement.
00:45:37.180 Someone was reacting to the fact that, um, I, I, I, I've said some, you know, uh, off the cuff stuff.
00:45:45.160 Like, you know, uh, I, I don't want women to be voting.
00:45:49.460 Um, I don't want anyone to be voting.
00:45:51.140 Um, I, uh, you know, also, I think one of my more famous lines was, um, every woman wants to be taken by a strong man.
00:45:57.920 But also, uh, if we, if females get control of foreign policy, the world, we're not going to have world peace.
00:46:05.040 Like their vindictiveness knows no end.
00:46:07.220 We're going to have total.
00:46:08.300 So true.
00:46:09.100 And, and yeah, salt is going to say that.
00:46:11.100 Yeah.
00:46:11.220 And some of the boomers in the movement are like, Oh, we need to reach out to women.
00:46:14.600 They're part of a race.
00:46:15.600 You're trying to divide us.
00:46:16.700 Well, it's just like, guys, shut up.
00:46:19.480 All right.
00:46:20.060 Look at the end of the day, there is going to have to be an assertion of power.
00:46:26.480 And neither of the two things you just brought up, the, uh, the exurb wage cuck who has to, you know, work extra hours to get his flat screen and be a beta provider.
00:46:37.880 And the, the women example, how, you know, we would literally be in a state of pandemonium should, uh, should women, you know, be in power.
00:46:45.220 Um, and demonium.
00:46:47.880 Yes.
00:46:48.700 Literal.
00:46:49.680 Demons.
00:46:52.020 Um, yeah.
00:46:53.640 I mean, there's a reason, you know, to, to kind of, uh, railroad, uh, off road my own railroading right now.
00:46:59.180 Yeah.
00:46:59.720 Uh, demons.
00:47:00.580 There's a reason why ancient Sumerian priests at the top of the ziggurats used to have to, um, take women's virginities before they could get married because they were demons living in their vaginas.
00:47:10.940 That was, that was the fear.
00:47:12.540 That was literally the fear.
00:47:13.580 Um, also those priests, I think they cook that up because it sounds like a pretty great deal.
00:47:18.880 Um, but, um, whatever me too is an ancient Akkadian cuneiform.
00:47:24.180 Their motives are pure.
00:47:25.340 Do not question, do not question those priests.
00:47:28.420 Right.
00:47:28.860 Do not, do not look at the Semite behind the curtain.
00:47:32.080 Um, since we're talking about Mesopotamia.
00:47:34.340 But no, so back to your two examples about the beta NPC, even though, even though he's aspiring to be tried, there's nothing wrong about that.
00:47:42.080 And the woman in power, um, if any woman in our movement wants to be in our movement and believes what we believe, and she is, I'm sure of, of, uh, good faith, goodwill.
00:47:53.320 And I, I'm willing to, you know, I, I personally know a lot of very, um, smart, attractive, hardworking, and respectful women in the movement who does, who deserve to be there.
00:48:03.320 They have to recognize that that's true, and they do, because they know themselves better than we know them.
00:48:08.180 Uh, you pointed that earlier, Richard, how they have an innate understanding of not only their own sexuality, but of.
00:48:13.380 Oh, yeah, they get us, and we don't get them.
00:48:16.040 There's no, and we don't get them.
00:48:17.360 It's totally asymmetric.
00:48:18.400 Yeah.
00:48:18.500 Totally asymmetric, but they also know, I mean, any woman knows, especially the women that are hip to our ideas, they know what it's like to be, you know, under the protection of a man, and also the latitude that that gives them.
00:48:31.140 You know, I, I, I have an elderly grandmother who, bless you, um, uh, up to whom I look for a lot of things, because she's, she's, you know, wise beyond her, uh, her very many years.
00:48:43.840 And, uh, she's a constant reminder to me, because I kind of, sometimes I'll, I'll watch her do what she does around the house.
00:48:49.460 It's funny to see, um, a woman doing what she does, especially when it's, it's so out of place in my own generation's, uh, um, you know, it, uh, uh, lifestyle.
00:49:00.180 I'll watch her do what she does, and I realize, like, you know, in a way, even though she's very elderly and could choose not to do these things, she's doing them because it's like she could be doing anything right now.
00:49:10.840 And, and she's never had to work a day in her life for money.
00:49:13.900 She's done housework.
00:49:15.700 Um, but she's gone from her father's household to her husband's household, and now that her husband is deceased, to her son's household, in, in a, in a, basically an uninterrupted life of luxury.
00:49:29.200 And that's what a, an actual, not LARPing trad woman realizes is the latitude that patriarchy gives them.
00:49:38.180 They have freedom to, to read, to knit, to learn languages, to go play tennis with their girlfriends.
00:49:43.860 All we ask in return, which is, you know, it's a big ask, but they, they know it's worth it, is, you know, you don't need to vote.
00:49:50.860 You don't need to be in control of your, you know, of your paychecks or whatever, your, uh, your bank account.
00:49:57.040 And, and they know that if they were in charge, they would constantly try to keep up with the Joneses and fuck with the other women in the community.
00:50:05.400 The international community works much the same way.
00:50:07.480 Men are standoffish to other men, and they know how to, um, look at the bromance between, had it been allowed to happen between Trump and Putin.
00:50:16.660 These are two guys, they saw each other, they sized each other up, and they're like, all right, guy, we can work together.
00:50:21.600 Let's, uh, this fucking serious situation is a joke.
00:50:23.820 Let's do it.
00:50:24.360 Um, and it was shrieking women, for the most part, in the West, that fucked it up.
00:50:30.020 Yeah.
00:50:30.380 Um, I don't even remember her name, Christia, Christola Freeland, the, uh, foreign minister of Canada.
00:50:36.800 Um, a fake job for a fake country.
00:50:39.200 She's ridiculous.
00:50:40.280 Uh, she called out Saudi Arabia for, um, human rights abuses.
00:50:44.400 Is Saudi Arabia a cesspool where human rights abuses are rampant?
00:50:48.420 Yeah, absolutely.
00:50:49.380 No one questions that.
00:50:50.240 But does an allied country that does billions of dollars in business every year, that actively sells them weapons, um, that uses them to base their troops abroad to reach other foreign policy objectives, even though we in the movement don't agree with those objectives.
00:51:06.060 Is it, is it, is it normal and healthy and, and is it not terribly gauche to call them out on live television in front of the world stage for something that no one actually cares about?
00:51:17.920 No, but it's the feminine, it's the, it's the feminine instinct to make snide backhanded remarks.
00:51:25.040 And the more women and the more gays we have in the various chanceries of Western capitals, the more we're going to see that.
00:51:33.180 Um, and that's the comment on women, but the comment on the, on the needs now on the, not the needs rather, I'm sorry, uh, much better than a need, much more respectable than a need, the beta, uh, provider.
00:51:43.240 We know that NPC in the current meme is supposed to englobe, encompass the, um, unthinking, progressive city dwelling, disgusting soy boy who goes along with narratives without thinking with no inner voice, but it's also applicable in a way to the wannabe trad NPC, who is the cog in the machine, who is an honorable cog, but a cog nonetheless.
00:52:07.780 Yeah.
00:52:08.040 The lifestyle who's making, who's actually allowing this thing to, to keep going.
00:52:12.920 Yeah.
00:52:13.620 And that's what's shocking.
00:52:15.400 Yeah.
00:52:16.160 Like who's actually far more productive than the urbanite hipster.
00:52:21.040 Yeah.
00:52:21.740 And what's out at coffee shops.
00:52:23.760 Yeah.
00:52:24.380 And who's not gainfully employed, you know, four fifths of his life.
00:52:27.900 Um, uh, but pretends to be because he opens his, his Apple laptop in a Starbucks with a, with a sticker on the laptop that says this machine kills fascists and, and types up.
00:52:37.780 The, you know, the, you know, the nth time he tried to, uh, get a job with Buzzfeed, but he's just not talented enough.
00:52:44.140 Um, and that's saying something.
00:52:46.320 No, uh, these guys make me sad.
00:52:48.140 Not, not the, not the, uh, the soy boy, you know, um, new males that live in the cities and do these things.
00:52:55.500 The, the former category we're talking about, they make me sad because they are unwittingly the architects of their own destruction.
00:53:01.340 Yeah.
00:53:01.940 Um, because they, they allow on the backs of their work.
00:53:05.360 Um, they keep this, you know, for lack of a better word, the, the, the, the, the Zog system, there's so many euphemisms I could use, but the, the system going, um, they are paying for unproductive people of color.
00:53:21.300 Um, even people of our own color who are unproductive, uh, single moms, um, the mentally disabled, uh, et cetera.
00:53:28.900 It says the list can go on forever.
00:53:30.560 Um, and these guys, there's a certain noblesse oblige to wanting to help your social inferiors.
00:53:39.740 I guess, uh, that does exist, but in a way, um, when those ideas were actually enacted in the West, you know, several centuries hence, um, the people that were working to keep the system going, at least had a life to show for it.
00:53:56.360 Yeah.
00:53:56.500 Your, your, your feudal Lord.
00:53:58.080 Yes.
00:53:58.420 He made sacrifices.
00:53:59.620 He fought for, you know, he would have to give men to the King when in times of war, you would have to arbitrate between, you know, silly peasants fighting over, uh, you know, a tiny piece of land.
00:54:10.240 Whatever.
00:54:11.020 Um, but he got to live in the big house, the proverbial big house.
00:54:14.720 And he, you know, got to slaughter a pig more, more frequently than the, uh, the peasant who only saw meat once or twice a year.
00:54:21.840 And he got to, you know, probably take a few advantages with his, you know, comely, uh, chambermaid, whatever.
00:54:28.760 Um, that's not the case anymore.
00:54:31.880 These beta males have no, uh, these poor guys that have probably have wives and kids.
00:54:36.860 I work with a few of them.
00:54:37.700 They, they have to live way on the boondocks in order to afford a house because, you know, um, the, uh, the current, um, real estate market is such that if you're a married man with a wife and two, two or three kids, uh, there's no way in heck.
00:54:52.820 You're going to be living anywhere within an hour and a half of a major urban center, unless you're willing to live like, uh, uh, an illegal Mexican 15 to a room.
00:55:01.820 It just doesn't work that way anymore.
00:55:03.580 And so these guys have nothing in return.
00:55:05.340 They're keeping the system afloat and they get nothing but disrespect.
00:55:09.780 Uh, they also get, uh, not paid as well, you know, cause inflation is, is, is, uh, moving more quickly than, uh, than standard of living, uh, uh, adjustments.
00:55:18.780 And also the Brett Kavanaugh example plays into this.
00:55:21.260 We're finally going full circle.
00:55:22.700 They also are presumed guilty before being proved innocent.
00:55:26.140 Yeah.
00:55:26.660 Because they're men and because they're white and because they're hardworking and they don't know how to fight back.
00:55:32.200 They fight back using the system's language.
00:55:34.920 So Brett Kavanaugh as a legalist fights back using the system.
00:55:40.020 So he's like, I just want a fair process.
00:55:42.620 I coach girls basketball.
00:55:44.840 I treat every, I've hired more women than men at my firm.
00:55:48.460 They've had more female clerks.
00:55:50.360 Like he's just a system man who is surprised that the system wants to destroy him.
00:55:56.500 I mean, it's tragic.
00:55:57.580 You could say, you could also say that it's pathetic and he's not willing or able to, to oppose it or fight back.
00:56:06.520 It's both of those things.
00:56:07.840 It's tragic and pathetic.
00:56:09.060 And it's a good comment.
00:56:10.260 Both of those adjectives you used are good comments on the, on not just his situation, but more meta.
00:56:16.780 What is tragedy and what is pathetic?
00:56:18.860 The tragedy is that you have a lot of good goys out there who are just literally not more ambitious
00:56:25.800 in the lives they had, that they have.
00:56:28.200 And that's fine.
00:56:28.880 That's just, that's a function of who they are in society.
00:56:31.140 It's a function of their IQ.
00:56:32.640 It's a function of their, their, their, um, upbringing.
00:56:35.240 It's okay.
00:56:36.020 It's okay to be an NPC as long you're, as long as you're an R guy NPC.
00:56:40.880 And that's not a bad thing.
00:56:42.900 A lot of guys just want to have an easy life.
00:56:44.920 But if you look at Kavanaugh, you see what awaits you if you choose that life, because
00:56:49.720 the tragedy part of this two-parter example we're doing, the tragedy part of it is you
00:56:55.080 have a guy who gave his life to the system, who is the, you know, he wears that stars and
00:57:01.320 stripes American flag pin on his lapel, like every DC neocon cuck that I've ever known my
00:57:05.620 whole life.
00:57:06.140 And he's got that smile pasted on his face and he does his, you know, fucking, you know,
00:57:12.120 court job his whole life, clerking and, and, and being someone else's bitch until he finally
00:57:16.860 gets a moment of glory.
00:57:17.980 And the system just destroys him, the very same system that he gave his life to serve.
00:57:22.240 That's the tragedy aspect of it.
00:57:23.900 And the other, the pathetic aspect is if you go along with that, knowing now what you know,
00:57:29.060 you're, it's no longer a tragedy.
00:57:30.620 Now, now it's a farce.
00:57:31.800 Now you're pathetic.
00:57:33.000 You can't, you can't have your eyes open to the situation.
00:57:36.140 And still pledge fealty to a system that takes you for granted that actually worse than
00:57:41.860 takes you for granted.
00:57:42.520 Once you're dead, either, you know, take that as you will, uh, uh, physically dead or
00:57:47.500 otherwise.
00:57:48.280 Yeah, certainly spiritually dead.
00:57:51.100 It's kind of one of those, you feel me, fool me once, fool me twice kind of situations.
00:57:55.080 It's, it's tragic if it's your first time like Havanaugh, he probably wasn't aware of the
00:58:00.340 weight of, you know, Talmudery that was, that, that was awaiting him in the, uh,
00:58:06.140 in the buildup to this nomination process.
00:58:08.060 But the second time you're fooled, it's pathetic because you can't, you can't keep working for
00:58:11.920 these people.
00:58:12.520 They have, you're, you're not going to get anything out of it.
00:58:15.180 Even when you're good to them, they will kill you.
00:58:17.280 Yeah.
00:58:19.080 All right.
00:58:19.720 Let's do an exit question.
00:58:21.460 Do you think Kavanaugh will be confirmed by the Senate as a Supreme court justice?
00:58:30.520 I'm going to go out on a limb and say, yes.
00:58:33.920 Yeah.
00:58:35.940 And I agree, actually.
00:58:39.240 Uh, he's going to, uh, he, he's going to just get by limping.
00:58:43.940 And, and I would say this, um, if that does not happen, I mean, if, if the Republican
00:58:50.320 Senate caves on this, I mean, yeah, which they could, they very well, it's well within
00:58:56.300 the realm of possibilities.
00:58:57.300 I just have, I'm just, you know, I'm, I'm using my mind, but I'm also using my gut.
00:59:02.080 I do think he's going to survive this, but if he doesn't, I mean, I don't even know what
00:59:09.420 to say, like my, I am of all the people in our sphere, I'm probably the one, at least
00:59:18.400 the most prominent person who is anti-conservative movement throughout, throughout my entire career,
00:59:24.120 I have been anti-conservative movement vehemently.
00:59:27.500 And I've said, this is wrong.
00:59:29.240 We cannot trust any of these people, even under their own terms, they're liberals and losers
00:59:34.760 and so on.
00:59:35.380 I mean, if they can't confirm this person, if they back down to me too pressure and they
00:59:41.280 do it under the guise of Christian moralism and be like, Oh, we need someone who respects
00:59:46.780 the decency of all women.
00:59:48.880 Respects women.
00:59:50.020 Yeah.
00:59:50.360 I mean, respect women.
00:59:52.660 Um, yeah.
00:59:53.760 At that point, it's just like, are these, what are they even like, they can't even confirm
00:59:59.460 their own douchebags.
01:00:02.360 Milk toast, yeah, milk toast, yeah, stand-ins.
01:00:06.100 They're not like, they're not putting Don Camillo up for like some of the Supreme Court.
01:00:12.880 You know, they're putting up, right, so would I, obviously.
01:00:18.260 But they're not, right, they're just, they're just, it's their own, it's their own guy.
01:00:23.840 It's their guy.
01:00:24.800 Yeah.
01:00:26.280 And we, we, we talked about, um, over the phone the other day, you and I, the implications,
01:00:31.660 the wider implications it would have, um, on the Trump presidency thereafter.
01:00:35.940 So, my first answer was, yes, I, I do think by the skin of his teeth, he will make it.
01:00:40.640 I think there's enough precedent there.
01:00:42.200 I also think the, um, the angle of attack that the left chose to use with this is, you
01:00:48.140 know, they had a chance to really, uh, put a nail in the coffin and they didn't.
01:00:52.940 And now their accusations are, are being proven more ridiculous by the minute.
01:00:56.720 Um, so I think that's just gonna, you know, it's still gonna be there.
01:01:00.700 The furthest left, uh, all in the Senate and in the media establishment will try to make
01:01:06.300 hay of that till the last second.
01:01:07.740 They really will.
01:01:08.600 But the, the, the weight behind it, the momentum behind it is gone.
01:01:12.280 So that's why I think he will make it.
01:01:13.960 But in the, uh, in the chance that he won't make it, the, the arguments are actually, you
01:01:18.260 know, if you, if you, you know, put up a pro and con column, the con column is actually
01:01:23.540 pretty substantial as well.
01:01:25.020 And the reason why is you have guys like, you know, the Senate from the leadership down
01:01:30.280 from the leadership, you got guys like Mitch McConnell who have gone out of his way to
01:01:35.560 pretend he plays well with Trump.
01:01:37.820 Um, since he's been elected, if you read his, uh, press releases on his website, you know,
01:01:42.700 he's, he's constantly talking up Brett Kavanaugh, great guy, whatever.
01:01:46.660 Uh, and he pretends to be aligned with Trump on a lot of things, but he is, he is as doughy
01:01:51.340 as his four chins and he could, he could, he could give way any minute, but then you
01:01:56.240 have guys that are even less, they're worse than Mitch McConnell.
01:02:00.080 Who's, who's main, my main criticism of him is his spinelessness.
01:02:04.180 You have guys in there who, in addition to being spineless, also viscerally hate Trump.
01:02:09.420 And by that, I mean, uh, Ben Sass, I mean, Ben Corker, uh, Bob Corker, sorry.
01:02:14.920 Um, and those are Republicans who are not running again for reelection.
01:02:18.900 And this is kind of their, this is their, um, I am Spartacus moment.
01:02:23.200 This is the look at me.
01:02:24.640 I may, uh, they drop in the punch bowl basically as they leave.
01:02:28.120 But I could see both of those guys doing that.
01:02:30.780 But the only thing is, again, I would go, go back to it.
01:02:35.600 Brett Kavanaugh is the conservatives conservative justice.
01:02:39.340 I mean, he is not Trump's guy.
01:02:42.100 This is one interesting thing about Trump, which is that Trump was wild, totally out of
01:02:48.600 the mainstream in a number of different ways, foreign policy, immigration, just general nationalism
01:02:54.260 and tone and all that kind of stuff.
01:02:56.560 But on a few ways, he was, he, he basically said the shibboleth and was just a total conservative,
01:03:03.980 uh, normie basically.
01:03:06.800 And that was the Supreme court and abortion.
01:03:09.500 So he, he suddenly became pro-life and then also he was like, oh, we need literalist judges
01:03:15.940 and so on.
01:03:17.480 And, um, so again, it's not like he's support, he's, he's putting this nationalist, you know,
01:03:24.380 anti-refugee crusader on the court.
01:03:27.160 Right.
01:03:27.320 So Ben Sasse, those guys will just be destroying their own movement.
01:03:32.360 Yeah.
01:03:32.720 Just to make a fucking point in the wrong one at that, from their perspective.
01:03:36.260 Yeah.
01:03:36.840 Um, cause he would be their guy.
01:03:38.180 And I think, you know, uh, I wasn't going to go this route.
01:03:40.640 I was going to talk about the impact on the presidency afterward, but just to, to digress
01:03:44.340 for one second on what you said, um, Trump nominating first Gorsuch than this guy.
01:03:49.480 Um, I think, and I hate to say this cause you know, I'm going to sound, uh, like I'm
01:03:54.980 reading a book by its cover.
01:03:56.180 So this is a pretty, uh, you know, normie tier criticism of Trump here, but look, the
01:04:02.600 guy, he's no legal scholar.
01:04:04.740 Let's not, you know, I know he talks about knowing the best words quote, because he went
01:04:09.360 to Wharton.
01:04:09.820 Uh, he's got the best words, uh, very smart guy, um, tongue in cheek, but, um, beyond that
01:04:16.420 he doesn't have any legal knowledge.
01:04:18.000 And so I think when he saw Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, he just saw two white bros,
01:04:24.460 uh, preferably, you know, wasp in the first example and high church Catholic on the other
01:04:29.100 example.
01:04:29.700 And they just jived with his general external aesthetic for what he, as a 71 year old white
01:04:35.800 men who would like to see white men back in the, uh, in the, uh, at the center of all
01:04:42.460 things in this country.
01:04:43.560 Um, I think that's why I went with them.
01:04:45.640 But, um, beyond that, beyond that, uh, he probably didn't even know that both of them
01:04:51.360 were just your, uh, average milquetoast conservatives conservative because he probably spent less than
01:04:57.640 five minutes looking into their, you know, he has an aid who, uh, liaises between him and
01:05:04.560 the, uh, Senate Judiciary Committee and that aid probably spent weeks and weeks of sleepless
01:05:11.160 nights, uh, compiling, uh, a bunch of briefs of briefs of Kavanaugh's, uh, with, you know,
01:05:18.180 highlighted sections to make sure the president, you know, reads them.
01:05:20.900 And Trump was like, all right, look, this guy's white.
01:05:23.120 Uh, he looks cool.
01:05:24.160 Um, kind of a bro.
01:05:25.540 We probably hit it off talking about Melania.
01:05:28.040 And then that was that, you know, like, so that's that comment.
01:05:32.340 But now I guess the, the thing, um, with which I'd end the, uh, the, the exit question section
01:05:39.120 of the show is what does this mean for the presidency, for Trump in particular, if, uh,
01:05:44.980 Kavanaugh isn't, you know, by some, you know, weird, whatever, um, active history, active God
01:05:50.600 isn't, isn't, um, confirmed.
01:05:53.340 I think there are two possibilities and I think unfortunately the latter is going to
01:05:58.860 happen.
01:05:59.640 The first is kind of lulzy is Trump going full, um, you know, wounded beast gets really
01:06:05.480 angry.
01:06:06.260 This combined with the fact that, uh, Rod Rosenstein was revealed by the New York times to have
01:06:11.200 apparently allegedly walked around the white house with a wire and recorded Trump and tried
01:06:16.640 to orchestrate a 25th amendment insurgency in his cabinet.
01:06:20.580 Contemplated that.
01:06:21.100 Contemplated that.
01:06:22.520 Right.
01:06:23.560 Um, allegedly anyone suggested he did it actually.
01:06:28.000 Oh, interesting.
01:06:28.820 Yeah.
01:06:29.040 But yes, I mean just the, the, the culture of, uh, of doubt remains in the white house.
01:06:34.440 Um, so I guess you could see, and I'm, I'm not saying this is the probable one and thing
01:06:38.720 this is the lulzy one.
01:06:40.260 Trump go, you know, full, you know, just fuck it all.
01:06:44.460 They've, they've given me one of the, one of the main platforms I ran on to get the normie
01:06:49.980 conservative vote was that I promised them Supreme court nominees that were in line with
01:06:54.860 their thinking.
01:06:55.680 They hamstrung me.
01:06:57.100 I am now punished Trump.
01:06:59.160 And, uh, now we're just going to go full, um, you know, napalm.
01:07:04.300 That's it.
01:07:04.700 We're firing the DOJ.
01:07:06.500 We're firing half of the white house staff and, uh, we're going to take care of this
01:07:11.600 presidency the way I wanted it to go in the beginning.
01:07:14.740 Um, unfortunately I think there's another side to Trump, which is not punish Trump.
01:07:19.440 And I think it's going to be the more probable of the two.
01:07:22.220 So he's also a capricious 71 year old man who likes things to go his way and is not
01:07:28.160 very, um, comfortable with, uh, delays both in time and in, uh, in ideology.
01:07:35.280 I think people that, uh, that don't see eye to eye with him are quickly shown the door.
01:07:40.000 I think he might just show himself the door.
01:07:41.960 I think he might just say, you know what?
01:07:43.680 I'm, I'm too good for this country.
01:07:45.520 I'm, I'm Donald fucking Trump.
01:07:47.120 I went to Wharton.
01:07:47.780 I know all the best words and I could have given you this gold guilt, um, you know, uh,
01:07:54.920 Chinese prefab palace, uh, and you spat in my face.
01:07:59.780 You didn't want it.
01:08:00.420 So I'm going to resign like tricky Dick Nixon did.
01:08:04.520 And, uh, you're not good enough for me.
01:08:07.500 Wow.
01:08:09.200 That could, I mean, that's, I can see that I would say the immediate effect because we,
01:08:13.180 we are going to know what, what is going to happen, you know, with, with this
01:08:17.440 nomination, if not this week, definitely by next week.
01:08:20.300 Cause I think Dr. Ford will be testifying on Thursday.
01:08:24.440 You know, we, we keep these delays.
01:08:26.460 Let's just say by the end of next week, we'll know.
01:08:28.940 And I, I, if, if they do buck Kavanaugh or something and just, you know, the level of
01:08:36.480 how demoralizing that will be for the midterms, I, I, I think it can't be underestimated.
01:08:42.520 Uh, I, I think the whole thing is just already demoralizing.
01:08:47.060 Yeah.
01:08:47.680 Yeah.
01:08:48.240 And I think the one, this is why the one positive, regardless of the route Trump decides to take,
01:08:53.860 Trump isn't going to be here forever.
01:08:55.320 We don't live in that kind of system, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on where you stand
01:08:59.620 on that, uh, question.
01:09:01.080 Um, he's not going to be here forever.
01:09:03.200 And what we're left with is the sociopolitical reality of things that, you know, the, the,
01:09:09.400 the deeper reality that survives between, you know, presidencies.
01:09:13.740 And I think in that world, this is demoralizing because it shows truly how powerful, um, the
01:09:20.860 forces of the media and the, and the inertia of the deep state, um, and how powerful they
01:09:26.740 are at not doing anything at, uh, at actively stopping, you know, our kind of progress, if
01:09:33.280 you will.
01:09:33.920 And I think the only white pill you can get out of that black pill is, um, the fact that
01:09:39.480 a lot of people are, are, you know, to use a overused word are woke to it now.
01:09:44.560 Um, I think you have the vast majority of the American population that are not, you know,
01:09:49.860 all writers, just, just your average Joe, um, before this election, I think would have
01:09:55.420 viewed the term deep state if he knew it at all, because it wasn't a very known term.
01:10:00.100 He would have viewed it or he or she would have viewed it as a, you know, tinfoil hat
01:10:05.080 word only used by Alex Jones watchers.
01:10:07.560 And I think here we are two years in Tucker Carlson at 8 PM every night on Fox is using
01:10:13.300 the word deep state, you know, three times a sentence.
01:10:16.040 And it's become, it's become a very, it's become a known knowable to paraphrase, uh, um,
01:10:23.040 who was that?
01:10:23.580 Kenneth Starr.
01:10:24.240 I don't remember anymore.
01:10:25.000 Oh, Donald Rumsfeld.
01:10:27.960 There you go.
01:10:29.660 Old Rummy himself.
01:10:31.140 Yeah.
01:10:31.580 So yeah, I think it's become a real, uh, enlightening moment for the American people.
01:10:35.720 So if, and when Trump proceeds from the, uh, the stage, um, that will stay.
01:10:41.860 I think people are really fucking fed up.
01:10:43.740 And I think that the, the demoralization we're feeling over something as stupid and silly
01:10:48.140 as Kavanaugh, who, you know, before and after this nomination process will, you know, recede
01:10:53.740 from our minds, we don't care about this guy, but it's, it's an indicator.
01:10:57.220 They were, they, they served as litmus tests, Trump and Kavanaugh.
01:11:00.880 Yeah, I agree.
01:11:02.920 I agree.
01:11:30.880 I agree.
01:11:31.600 I agree.
01:11:32.040 I agree.
01:11:32.260 Yeah.
01:11:32.740 Yeah.
01:11:33.260 I agree.
01:11:34.440 I agree.
01:11:34.720 I agree.
01:11:35.500 I agree.
01:11:35.800 I agree.
01:11:36.020 There you are.
01:11:36.100 Thanks for your hands on, Gene.
01:11:36.940 Everybody.
01:11:37.600 I agree.
01:11:38.720 Thanks for having me.
01:11:39.760 We just, again, takes me.
01:11:40.360 You know, every morning on me.
01:11:40.820 It's a bad day.
01:11:42.740 I agree.
01:11:43.600 Richie doesn't.
01:11:43.920 We want to
01:11:51.340 You know, guys?
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