It s Wednesday, February 5th, and still undecided in the polls with 60% of precincts reporting, and yet, a thousand miles away in Iowa, chaos reigns. The first caucus to determine the Democratic nominee was badly botched by a faulty app, and no one knows who won. Conspiracy theories abound. All we do know is that Pete Buttigieg has assumed the throne as the cornfield queen, with all the markings of a banana republic. And yet, with democracy itself in question, nothing much seems to have changed. Come for the political discussion, stay for Ed s excruciating analysis of the homosexual personality from top to bottom.
00:03:17.740And but both but it doesn't actually change anything.
00:03:20.240It just basically activates the bases of both sides.
00:03:23.960I found the whole thing a bit unbearable.
00:03:26.020I mean, like, yeah, after after the after she does it on Twitter, you have all these like all light figures like Stefan Molyneux.
00:03:33.180And they're, you know, they're so outraged, like, oh, I can't even she she ripped up the speech.
00:03:37.360And it's like, you know, she was she was a one time I think she was clapping along with him was when they were celebrating this Venezuelan opposition leader.
00:03:45.960And it's like it just sort of underlies this fact that, like, on all the key policy issues, there isn't a huge difference there.
00:03:52.440And like, you know, just this like left, right, the Democrats, all this stuff like it's just it kind of belies how similar there and that Trump hasn't really accomplished anything in three years.
00:04:05.000Yeah, exactly. You know, I did a tweet storm on this about actually Nancy Pelosi's earlier career as Speaker of the House, which the Democrats took over the House in something that was a lot like the Tea Party election, actually, in 2006.
00:04:23.180And it was basically after it was after George W. Bush's reelection.
00:04:27.740And it was and it was at a point where the Iraq war had just lost all legitimacy or most all legitimacy among the public.
00:04:34.640And it was like, we need to get these crazy religious lunatics out and we need to put in good centrist Democrats to make America great again.
00:04:43.120And there was a major push to impeach George W. Bush or at the very least, you know, disclose and have a have a, you know, congressional hearing on the Iraq war crimes, lies and so on.
00:05:03.280And Nancy Pelosi squashed it almost immediately. And she said, oh, we have an election. We're having a new one coming up. We can't let we're we should move forward and not go back to the past.
00:05:13.580And so where we are right now is this point in which impeachment, even though it has legal trappings and so on, is highly it's highly political and it is political in its essence.
00:05:27.160But it's also partisan and kind of unserious. You know, at no point would Donald Trump be questioned by Congress about what are you doing in Venezuela?
00:05:38.780Why are you declaring this man who you plucked out of, you know, the garden or he came out of the woodwork?
00:05:46.560You're declaring he's the rightful leader of a of a country that you have no sovereignty over.
00:05:51.500What are you doing here? Let's have a hearing about this. No, they don't talk about this.
00:05:55.440They instead talk about some, you know, tiny little thing of, you know, Trump is bullying Ukraine in order to get dirt on Biden.
00:06:04.720Well, I he probably was doing something like that. But who cares?
00:06:09.720And so you have this heightened rhetoric and then but then no substance.
00:06:16.260So there the Democrats are going out there using the T word. They're saying treason and so on.
00:06:22.280I mean, you know, if you're caught doing treason, the punishment is death.
00:06:27.480I mean, this is like as serious as you can get. Yet they ultimately know that nothing's really going to happen.
00:06:33.700He's going to be acquitted today. And they're not going to talk about actually serious issues because they're completely aligned on those issues.
00:06:42.060You know, Nancy Pelosi will, you know, oh, she hates Trump. He's a fascist.
00:06:46.300I mean, look at the reaction to the killing of Soleimani alongside him.
00:06:51.120Look at the reaction to the killing of Soleimani. Like, you know, surely there's grounds for potential impeachment there.
00:06:57.060But you didn't really see any you didn't really see any strong criticism from the Democrats.
00:07:00.720It was all this like legalistic stuff like, oh, he didn't go through the right means, blah, blah, blah.
00:07:05.840But there was no actual opposition to him killing the man.
00:07:09.200No, no, it was. You should have talked to us first, even though we're actually well beyond that.
00:07:16.080And and, you know, that that that was an issue.
00:07:18.440We would have approved it, but you should have shown it to us anyway.
00:07:21.700Yeah, yeah, exactly. And they would have given him a rubber or rubber stamped it.
00:07:26.180They would have given him a blank check anyway. So what's the whole point of going to Congress?
00:07:29.540Is it personal between them, do you think, that they can or that she can see parts of herself in Trump that she hates and vice versa?
00:07:37.420They seem quite similar in terms of backgrounds. They're both extremely wealthy backgrounds.
00:07:42.420He's this hereditary businessman. She's this hereditary politician.
00:07:45.760Her father was the representative for Maryland or something.
00:07:48.860Was it a mayor of Baltimore? Her brother was mayor of Baltimore.
00:07:51.940She's this aristocrat, essentially a Democrat aristocrat like Al Gore.
00:07:55.520You get so many of them. They wax lyrical about the importance of helping the poor or whatever.
00:07:59.620And they're all from fantastically wealthy backgrounds that have never done a proper work in their lives.
00:08:03.180And she sees this in Trump. It's the same reflected back at her.
00:08:06.580It's the same kind of almost narcissism in some ways reflected back at her.
00:08:09.320So she hates him and he hates her. It's a personal thing. It seems personal.
00:08:14.520Yeah, there is a bit of a wealthy boomer on boomer violence going on there.
00:08:19.920Yeah, I think it's about that. But it's, again, about this partisanship, which, at least for the time being, is actually stable in the sense that people are getting very mad and they hate the other side in a way that we didn't see even as late as the 90s or even the early 2000s.
00:08:42.940They absolutely loathe the other side. But then due to the intractable nature of this red-blue divide, nothing actually changes.
00:08:53.380So Trump hasn't done much of anything. And the things he takes credit for, he shouldn't.
00:08:59.160The stock market's up or whatever. Fed is just goosing the markets.
00:09:03.300So there's this heightened rhetoric and heightened hatred, but then no actual substance, no policy is actually changing.
00:09:13.540I think one of the real divides that's noticeable from the outside is that American politics seems to be split into people that think America is still something to be governed according to principles and to meet certain ideals.
00:09:31.420And then people that think basically America is something that is on its last legs and just to get as much out of it as you can before it goes.
00:09:39.580Like AOC, I think it was AOC, you know, it was Ilhan Omar posted a picture of her with some other brown female member of Congress and was like, this is what America looks like now.
00:09:50.280Deal with it. You know, like rubbing people's face in it.
00:09:52.240And then at the same time, you know, you have, again, people in the alt-right that are like posting pictures of all the Democrats wearing white.
00:10:00.860And it's like, oh, the Dems never changed. They're still wearing white robes and, you know, still playing these ridiculous games of universal principles.
00:10:09.100And Trump, like Trump in 2016 was the latter. He was, you know, white people's sort of warrior in that.
00:10:19.400He, you know, he labeled the system corrupt. He labeled it failing and he was basically going to get as much out of it as he could.
00:10:25.060He was going to go in as the sort of amoral billionaire and take as much out of it as he could for his base.
00:10:31.720But now in the speech, he's gone the other side and he is, you know, he's a typical, you know, he's a Jeb Bush style Republican.
00:10:39.240I mean, is this speech any different than if Jeb had been elected in 2016?
00:10:43.880I mean, what's different? Maybe, you know, maybe.
00:10:47.560Well, yeah, maybe. I mean, it's probably the same speech writer, you know.
00:10:51.240Yeah, it's same speech. The same conservatives are writing the speech.
00:10:53.960I think what's slightly different is the, you know, kind of maudlin tales of illegal immigrants killing Americans or something.
00:11:04.300I don't think Jeb would have done that, to be fair.
00:11:07.340But in terms of would Jeb be bringing the same people up to, you know, this black single mom and her child and talk about school choice,
00:11:16.300which is a disastrous policy and not anything we should support, by the way.
00:11:21.520But but also, you know, bringing out this, you know, puppet leader of Venezuela and calling him legitimate.
00:11:29.620Of course, Jeb would do that. So Hillary would do it.
00:11:32.700I mean, it's it's it's again, it's like they hate each other with such furious passion, the same and nothing is actually really fundamentally changing.
00:11:43.500It's it's just a remarkable state that we're in right now.
00:11:47.580But, you know, she should stand to be the Democrat presidential candidate.
00:11:52.620That would be that would be a true battle to the death.
00:12:30.220And she was talking with Bannon and, you know, I and I was thinking to myself, Trump might very well win again, ironically using Bannonism.
00:12:41.420And it's not necessarily the tough talk on immigration and foreign policy.
00:12:47.740But it's basically this, you know, focusing on impeachment as as the issue that you should be voting on in a presidential election.
00:12:56.560And basically saying Bannon was saying in his words is this is the crime of the century.
00:13:05.080And I can see that working and the Democrats are just giving I mean, they are they are in such a great position to win, you know, even the fact that he's an incumbent notwithstanding.
00:13:18.840And they just giving him all of the messaging, the you know, this botched fake impeachment, they can't they're playing dirty tricks or they're extremely incompetent or some kind of combination in their own primaries.
00:13:38.960It's kind of viewed as this dark, sinister organization picking elections.
00:13:43.960It's just what they are doing right now is is incomprehensible, whereas if they could just ride it out and not poke the bear too hard, I think they could actually easily win in 2020.
00:13:58.180And I'm I'm questioning whether they can beat even Trump in 2020.
00:14:03.460And I'm not particularly enthused by that, to be honest, because that means another four years of white America and the alt right being diluted.
00:14:14.580That's the main difference between a Jeb presidency and a Trump president presidency is that if Jeb had been elected, no one from the alt right in 2016 would be defending this stuff.
00:14:24.960Right. But now when it's when it's this choice of, well, do we support this or do we support a Democrat that's going to throw us in gulags, which is the perception among a lot of right.
00:14:35.240That's that's that's a much more difficult choice. And unfortunately, you know, Trump is kind of the worst of both worlds because he gives you the typical neocon globalist policies.
00:14:47.220But the left still perceive him as a racist nationalist and his supporters.
00:14:52.260And, you know, what was the alt right still take the flack for that as if as if he is those things.
00:14:56.620So it really is the worst of every world. And it is it is definitely something of a dilemma.
00:15:01.600You know, what do you do if you're a racially conscious American for this election?
00:15:06.120Yeah, I mean, that that is a serious question.
00:15:09.560I I'm I'm I'm certainly considering voting for either Tulsi Gabbard or Bernie Sanders and not on accelerationist grounds or something like that.
00:15:24.920If I were to do that, I would write in Ilion Omar.
00:15:27.640But just in the sense that, you know, I putting the immigration and the diversity stuff aside, I actually agree with them on more issues than I agree with Trump on.
00:15:41.040But she can't stand this Ilion Omar person.
00:15:43.900She can't stand. She's not a native born American.
00:29:01.420I, that doesn't surprise me when you, when you think about it.
00:29:03.800It's that kind of total disconnection.
00:29:06.240I mean, I, I think, um, you know, I, I don't, I've always, I've never, I've never taken the line, which I've heard a bunch of, uh, from a lot of conservatives that gays are, uh, you know, faking it effectively.
00:29:20.600That they're just sexual, uh, freaks and they just want to try everything.
00:29:28.440Um, I, I think it's a kind of a bit of an on-off switch and, you know, you could say that a gay is subnormal or that he's suffering from something, but I don't think he's faking it.
00:29:38.560I, I think that he, he does have these maladaptive attractions and it's real and, and, and we can talk about that and so on, but I don't think we're going to pray it away or convince him to be otherwise.
00:29:50.760Um, whereas the, the bisexual, I, I, I could actually agree with that line in the sense that it's somewhat, the, the sociopath is just disconnected from empathy.
00:30:01.220He, he doesn't, you know, having sex is the, the same as masturbating or having sex with the wall or something.
00:30:09.680It's, he's, he's disconnected from that human connection or real attraction and it's just all a kind of game to him.
00:30:16.460So I, I could, I could see that in a, in a bisexual.
00:30:19.260If you're, if you are a psychopath, people, people are objects.
00:30:23.140And if you are autistic, people, people are, it's also called autism.
00:30:45.200And also the heritability of homosexuality among men is a 0.4 genetic component, which means there must have been some sort of evolutionary benefit to having homosexuality.
00:30:56.040There's, there's a number of models of why.
00:30:57.860One of them is what's called gay uncle theory, which people are familiar with, which is, which is that you have a gay uncle and he invests in the kinship group.
00:31:04.920And therefore the kinship group is more likely to survive.
00:31:07.500There's also this younger brother theory, which is that if you have lots of older brothers, then the woman's immune reaction against the male hormones of the male child is stronger each time, which means that the more older brothers you have, the more likely you are to be gay.
00:31:21.140It increases the odds by 0.3, each older brother that you have.
00:31:24.780And so this then reduces intermale conflict, because once there's lots and lots of males, then you have a gay male.
00:31:29.220So there's not more intermale, intermale conflict.
00:31:52.140And so they can be more group selected.
00:31:54.000They can do things for the good of the group rather than for the good of having children, investing energy in that.
00:32:00.160They invest their energy perhaps in a male partner, but also in group selected things, like being a priest or being an inventor or being a genius or whatever, which would be consistent with having higher IQ, actually.
00:32:10.880And in particularly, then if homosexuality is illegal, if it's repressed, then they're forced to focus all of their energies in their group selected work.
00:32:19.720And so this helps us understand why it would be maintained, even in societies like ancient Judea or whatever, that have the death penalty for homosexuality, it'd still be in their interests to have homosexuals who did group selected work.
00:32:35.060And more religious, remember, like priests and priests are group selected, priests are inspiring the group.
00:32:39.080So I don't think they're all with the idea that they're just degenerate or even that it's maladaptive.
00:32:43.160It could be adaptive at the group level to have an optimum small number of homosexual men, I think.
00:32:48.820Well, perhaps the best solution is an amalgam between intolerance and tolerance.
00:32:55.960Obviously, what we're doing now is rather absurd, and I think it actually might be, or very likely, might be confusing kids who are going through puberty and don't know who they are and so on.
00:33:09.380But the optimal kind of political solution would be to say that we accept this reality that a small percentage of men will be homosexual, but we are not really going to tolerate it publicly and we're not going to celebrate it.
00:33:27.720And this will lead a lot of these gays to be a little bit repressed and then sublimate all their energy into, you know, art or science or philosophy.
00:33:39.000And that's exactly what they did. That's exactly what they did in the past.
00:33:41.780That's precisely, there's so many historical examples of homosexuals who would, or such like, geniuses.
00:33:47.720Certainly, these tend to be childless, overwhelmingly childless.
00:33:52.760So I think that's, yeah, I mean, at the height of our group selection, when we were doing the best as a society in 1870 or whatever, when the West, the height of its genius, per capita genius, the punishment for homosexuality was a few years hard labor in prison.
00:34:07.100So that's it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think that's quite fair, but that, that seems to be when the society was doing its best, that was when it was the Tchaikovsky's and Oscar Wilde types, basically. Yes.
00:34:19.880Well, yes. So now, but now we have Pete, Pete Buttigieg, who is just getting back, just getting back to the politics that I do find that very, please, I do find it very black pill and that, uh,
00:34:37.100you know, I thought after Hillary losing, I expected the Democrats to kind of move towards a more Bernie Sanders oriented socialism, a more kind of, uh, focus on structural issues rather than the, uh, you know, deep woke politics that they're engaged in.
00:34:53.840Now, I didn't think we'd see a Buttigieg character pop up, pop up like this. I definitely didn't think he'd be anywhere near the potential for taking a nomination.
00:35:04.540So, uh, I am surprised that is his unnatural entry, which, uh, I was even, I was even more surprised to see him, uh, bring up the rear and end up coming, coming out on top in Iowa.
00:35:21.440But, uh, but, um, what was the point? Oh yeah. The point was the point. It's like, it kind of shows the paradox of this because, uh, he's playing this identity, like woke capital thing and he's for minorities and liberalism for everybody. Uh, but at the same time, he's pulling that 0% with black voters.
00:35:41.180So, uh, it does, it does kind of show the paradox within this.
00:35:45.280Blacks have been under Darwinian selection until more recently. And consequently, blacks, I mean, they're also less group selective. So there's, so actually there's a less homosexuality among blacks and B, they're just more, I have more adaptive ways of thinking on a lot of things.
00:36:01.760They're smart enough to see through him.
00:36:04.440I think it's the middle-brained, sorry, white Iowans who are kind of like, Ooh, what a good guy. Yeah. He's so nice.
00:36:13.980That sounds like Dave Chappelle doing the impression of a white person. That's what that's like. Is that how I talk? Iowans talk like Dave Chappelle doing the impression of a white person.
00:36:23.500So why is it the case then that basically the, the result, because of what I've read, it's the result in Iowa is totally hung. It's that the three of them, uh, Warren, him, have got the same mouth.
00:36:34.100I think Warren was a bit back in third, wasn't she? Bernie and Pete are kind of neck and neck, but he, I think Pete is right, slightly ahead.
00:36:42.700Yeah. Well, let's, let's get, let's get into this because, you know, just like there's, there's hot polarization between the parties.
00:36:50.560There actually is a very strong polarization within the democratic party that I think might not be exactly apparent to people looking into it.
00:37:00.240And it, and it might not really be apparent to those average Iowans who went and voted in this caucus.
00:37:05.820Uh, and, and, and that is that like what you're saying is true that, that you thought that there would be a more move towards social democracy and social reforms that, that actually is happening.
00:37:17.180I mean, the fact is all of the, the, the, the centrist old white guys with the exception of Biden, uh, lost in the debates.
00:37:26.600They, they were pulling at 0% and they were being shamed for not supporting Medicare for all.
00:37:31.440Now, you know, rewind, uh, 10 years, Medicaid for, or, or Medicare for all wasn't even really on the radar screen.
00:37:39.740I mean, Obama, you know, with Obamacare, that was ultimately a Republican proposal.
00:37:44.800He went back to the, literally to the heritage foundation and used Romney care, uh, as his version of socialized healthcare.
00:37:53.420Uh, and so now there, there's, there's certainly the woke contingent within the democratic party.
00:37:59.040And there's some crossover with this new social democratic contingent where they're talking about capitalism.
00:38:15.320And they, they feel like, uh, Bernie both bowed to Hillary, kowtowed to Hillary too much and was ultimately betrayed by Hillary when she threw him under the bus, uh, a couple of weeks ago.
00:38:25.900And so there, there really is a kind of polarization or civil war going on within the democratic party.
00:38:32.140And this Iowa thing is going to exasperate it.
00:38:36.500I mean, I think it's going to, from the outside of like a normie voter, I think they're going to view the democratic party as, you know, corrupt or totally incompetent.
00:38:45.660Uh, but within the party, uh, I, I don't, I think there's a lot of demoralization and a lot of extreme anger because if you, you look at what happened, there was this, um, you know, hot new techie firm called shadow.
00:39:00.360And I think, I think its original name was like ground base or, or something of this nature.
00:39:06.020And it's basically a bunch of C tier coders who go to the democratic party and say, we've got the hot new thing.
00:39:15.120And they're actually, they were working on the Hillary campaign and this, um, this company was, they, they got paid by Biden for a little bit.
00:39:24.260And then he kicked him out because he, he was afraid of their, he, there's, it didn't pass the cyber security test.
00:39:30.420Uh, so this whole thing is just these incompetent, you know, C tier people who go to politics and say, I have this hot new solution.
00:39:38.700And it's actually this app that doesn't pass muster that the people in Iowa couldn't even download onto their phones.
00:40:04.460I think that these people are buffoons at some level.
00:40:08.180And at this point they're covering their ass, but the ultimate optics of it is that they are a shadowy sinister group promoting, either covering for Biden or promoting.
00:40:20.620Buttigieg, uh, because the big story coming out, uh, if, from what we can see from the election, the big story should have been, oh, Bernie won.
00:40:31.500And, and according to Bernie's internal polls, he did win.
00:40:35.220Although obviously we should take those with a grain of salt.
00:40:37.780Those are coming from the campaign, but that Bernie won and that Biden finished fourth or fifth.
00:40:48.460You know, what happened is that we had this incompetent snafu and then Buttigieg declared victory.
00:40:56.800And then the next day, I mean, we're, we're, we're going on 48 hours.
00:41:00.340No one knows who won the, you know, 24 hours later, they received, they released 60% of the polling.
00:41:05.880And Buttigieg has a, uh, uh, a lead that is quite small and depending on the County could just flip and he could have, he could, we could end up a day from now.
00:41:22.580So it, it seems, and, and, and Buttigieg paid the shadow group, not, not a huge sum.
00:41:28.000I think $20,000 for their efforts at sending text messages to voters or whatever.
00:41:34.780But did you see the link with this, this billionaire Seth Clareman that supposedly fund funded this app?
00:41:41.040And he's also, he's become one of the biggest supporters of Buttigieg because Trump mentioned something about debt forgiveness for Puerto Rico.
00:41:48.240And he's one of these vulture capitalists that has like $900 million worth of Puerto Rican debt.
00:41:54.380So now, yeah, so now he's, he's thrown his weight behind, uh, getting Trump out of office, but he basically wants anyone except Bernie.
00:42:01.120So he started with Biden and now he's kind of shifted to Buttigieg.
00:42:03.940So this is like, you know, Buttigieg is, is like the typical, like, you know, what do you imagine, you know, the, the billionaire elites running America want, you know, he sees neoliberalism and, you know, social liberalism and paying lip service to some kind of social agenda.
00:42:19.200That's just basically, uh, you know, more capital.
00:42:21.980But, uh, yeah, it's, it seems like basically, uh, you know, Buttigieg is, he's the, you know, he's the fake and gay candidate.
00:42:30.860And it seems like the, if this is true and if it is because of this app, I mean, they, they genuinely are trying to rig this election.
00:42:38.120But I mean, even if, even if that's not true, I mean, people should really be, yeah, I mean, people should really be jumping on this and holding them to account.
00:42:45.220Right. And, and that's the thing, you know, going forward to November, I, I, if, if your party is demoralized, which the Democrats were to, to maybe a degree that we underestimated in 2016, because they, they felt, even though Bernie was clearly not winning, there was this, you know, idea of the superdelegates.
00:43:03.220The party was cheating, doing dirty tricks and, you know, giving answers, uh, uh, ahead of time to Hillary from CNN and all this kind of stuff.
00:43:13.260And the party actually was demoralized and you, it's hard to win when you're demoralized.
00:43:18.320You need to be more, I kind of think this might help Bernie though, because first of all, it's shades of 2016.
00:43:24.340And there was, you know, there was a feeling that Hillary kind of robbed it from Bernie.
00:43:27.520And now it's like, well, look, it's happening again.
00:43:29.680And so suddenly there's going to be this split between people that want anyone except Bernie and Bernie, you know, it's going to be Bernie versus everyone else.
00:43:37.780I feel like it could galvanize a lot of support behind them.
00:44:33.020I mean, you can buy support by just flooding normies with Facebook ads and getting your name out there.
00:44:39.420So he's he's hedging against Bernie because Bernie, even though Bernie might have a hard time getting his agenda enacted, you know, just the threat of it is is real to the billionaire class.
00:44:51.840And then I think he might do third party.
00:44:54.700He's claimed that he'll support any Democrat against Trump.
00:44:57.340So he's but he might, you know, who knows what he'll do.
00:45:01.020And so he's kind of hedging against Trump as well by taking away the kind of suburban Republican vote.
00:45:06.820So he's just this factor in there kind of taking three percent on each side.
00:45:13.140Isn't this another thing that could actually help Bernie?
00:45:15.240Because, you know, supposedly pretty much all of Bloomberg support are people that when they're polled would otherwise support Biden.
00:45:22.320So he's he's kind of just taking support from these moderate candidates, which is, you know, even more of a vote proportionally for Bernie.
00:45:29.400Yeah, there's no question, because I think the elite view Biden as a botched campaign, even though he'll do one, you know, snap, he'll do one gaffe after another.
00:45:41.300He doesn't really collapse in the polls.
00:45:43.740I mean, his eyes were literally bleeding on stage.
00:45:47.160He says all this kind of quasi racist.
00:45:49.760I mean, it was normal, like in the 90s.
00:45:53.000It's now viewed as, you know, unacceptable.
00:45:55.720He'll just start like roboting and just saying random syllables that don't connect together.
00:46:02.040He'll tell stories about getting in fights with blacks and swimming pools during the age of segregation.
00:46:07.700I mean, he they view this as like, oh, my God, this guy is just out of control.
00:46:13.760Whereas Hillary was like, you know, disciplined as all get out.
00:46:18.440I mean, she she never had she doesn't have gaffes.
00:46:21.260I mean, she just you know, she keeps going.
00:46:24.200But Biden, I think they view him as just a botched candidate as uninspiring and a disaster.
00:46:29.740And we better have someone waiting in the wings to pick up the support.
00:46:33.320And, you know, again, if Biden really goes down in flames, you know, we might be back where we were in 2016 with a lot of superdelegates saying and they have a little bit less power this time because there are some internal reforms with the superdelegates basically saying, like, we've got to beat Trump.
00:46:49.820We've got to win. We've just got to flip over and just choose a candidate, which is, again, going back to the way, you know, pre primaries, the way politics was, which is that party bosses and party members chose candidates and they put them up in an election.
00:47:05.420We're kind of headed back in that direction.
00:47:08.300So, like, when, like, is Bloomberg going to contest any of these primaries or when is he going to enter into this or what's his plan?
00:47:17.520I mean, he's, you know, Steyer and Bloomberg.
00:47:20.360He was he wasn't in the Iowa caucus, was he?
00:47:23.180I think you could conceivably have voted for him, but he was not seriously contesting Iowa and he's not been in the debates.
00:47:30.880So he's going to be in the next debate.
00:47:32.400So he's kind of tactically focusing on them.
00:47:33.340Yeah. But yeah, he is absolutely a candidate, you know, for Democrats.
00:47:39.080He seems to be just focusing everything on attacking Trump.
00:47:42.480Like, you know, he ran a Super Bowl out on Trump.
00:47:44.920So he seems to be kind of ignoring the politics of the, you know, intra Democrat thing and just kind of trying to present himself as the most viable candidate to beat Trump, which is an interesting strategy.
00:48:03.080I think basically there's a there's a civil war in the Democratic Party.
00:48:07.320And I think, you know, this snafu in Iowa is will ultimately galvanize the Bernie bros.
00:48:15.400But whether they can really take the party in their direction is questionable because you've got, you know, the institution is not behind Bernie.
00:48:25.140They kind of want to use Bernie, but they ultimately don't want him to be their candidate.
00:48:30.720That they are going to fight against him.
00:48:32.620And then you've just got billionaires just spend, you know, 200 million.
00:48:36.280I mean, I can't imagine 200 million in my checking account.
00:48:46.260And he can just play games with politics.
00:48:49.500So it's, you know, it's going to be interesting.
00:48:51.540But again, I don't I don't know if a demoralized, fractured civil war party can.
00:48:57.080There's no chance of Bloomberg running as a third party candidate, is there?
00:49:00.580He claims that he won't do it, but he claims that he will support the Democrat against Trump and he'll start pouring money into that Democrat.
00:50:12.380I mean, a Buttigieg-Trump matchup people, you know, you're going to get the goofballs who vote for Buttigieg.
00:50:18.580But, yeah, I think that that would change, although I don't know.
00:50:23.460I mean, again, the big demographic change in elections is white suburbia moving Democratic and suburbia in general going Democratic, which is definitely not the dynamic 50 years ago or even even quite 10 years ago.
00:50:41.380I mean, the 2010 GOP won 65 percent of the white vote.
00:50:48.620They're now pushing down to 55 percent of the white vote and less in the Trump era.
00:50:54.160And so all of these, you know, kind of annoying, professional, upper middle class, white suburban types might actually go for Buttigieg and he could do it.
00:51:05.640But, you know, just the optics of it, no red-blooded American is going to vote for Pete Buttigieg.
00:51:12.720I don't get why Bernie Sanders doesn't just double down and just, you know, do a Trump 2016 on it and really present himself as anti-establishment, as, you know, the whole Democratic Party apparatus out to stop him.
00:51:24.540I mean, you know, in, you know, pre-2016 he was, yeah, pre-2016 he was speaking out against open borders.
00:51:31.900You know, that's a Koch brothers policy, a famous quote.
00:51:34.200And he wasn't, he's never seemed like his heritage is in all this woke capital stuff.
00:51:39.280But yet in the last few years he's kind of aligned with, you know, the squad and the Green New Deal stuff.
00:51:43.820And I mean, I don't know, I mean, if he was, if you're talking an election in 2016, surely he could win some of those swing states more focusing on the kind of economic populism that Trump used in 2016 than bringing all this identity politics stuff into it.
00:52:00.200But yet he seems to, he seems to want to moderate between both positions and kind of synthesize them, but it doesn't seem like that's going to help him.
00:52:06.500Unquestionably. I mean, I, I think he could absolutely, you know, maybe not win as a third party, but as a, you know, a third party candidate winning the Midwest and some of the Northeast, that, that would be huge.
00:52:20.400And, you know, he would, he, he would be a kingmaker in the election.
00:52:24.300But again, Bernie's, he, he's, he's, you know, he, he's a serious and authentic guy, but then he never really wants to go after the people on top.
00:52:34.020I mean, in, I think it was 2017 or 18, Bernie did this unity tour with the democratic party and standing on stage with billionaires.
00:52:42.360And I, I just, he, he doesn't, he doesn't really want to go after them viciously.
00:52:47.160He didn't go after Elizabeth Warren viciously, even though she implied that he was a, you know, raging misogynist.
00:52:54.340Uh, so I, I don't know, but he, that would be actually really fascinating if he did that and he certainly could do it.
00:53:04.020Yeah. I mean, he, he has that same populist energy, you know, you get that, you get that feeling of him riding the wave like Trump was in 2016, but there does always seem to be that hesitancy there that definitely was never there with Trump.
00:53:16.440There's not that same opportunism to, to capitalize on it and ride that wave, which I've never, I've never understood about him.
00:53:23.660This, um, Elizabeth Warren, is he queer?
00:53:27.460I don't think we should make these suggestions about a native American.
00:53:35.500I mean, that's, that sounds like a queer on the wild.
00:53:39.520I think his, his wife might be a lesbian.