RadixJournal - June 20, 2025


Sleazy Feline Accusations


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In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with a friend of mine to talk about the obsession with israel and its influence over our politics, and how it affects the way we think about the world.

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00:00:00.000 let's uh continue it's a simple question that is ape are apex goals shaped by the goals of the 0.90
00:00:06.480 israeli government and i'm just going to ask you a question straightforwardly and if you say no
00:00:10.800 i think we both know that's not true hey are they shaped by is that are they coordinating with the
00:00:15.920 israeli government are they talking with them yes israel directing them what are you want to talk
00:00:21.040 about farah the law on lobbying on behalf of someone yeah it is i hire you and you lobby on
00:00:26.640 behalf of me i direct you does israel direct apac no they're not lobbying on behalf of them
00:00:32.240 do they care about them yes but do you think that it's just interesting because what you're now
00:00:38.000 describing in a very defensive way i will say is foreign influence over our politics no and you
00:00:44.720 began and it's so transparently obvious to everybody i don't know why you would be embarrassed of it
00:00:49.520 you've said that you are sincerely for israel i believe you i don't think you have some weird
00:00:52.800 agenda you seem to by the way by the way tucker it's a very weird thing
00:01:00.000 the obsession with israel when we're talking about foreign countries you're not talking about chinese
00:01:04.960 you're not talking about japanese you're not talking about the brits you're not talking about
00:01:07.840 the french the question what about the jews what about the jews oh i'm anti-semite now senator you're
00:01:12.880 asking the questions you're asking why are the jews controlling our foreign policy that's what you just 0.99
00:01:19.360 asked hardly saying that and i have that is exactly what you just said well actually i can speak for
00:01:23.920 myself and tell you what i tucker's not saying that and that's actually the problem yes because it is
00:01:31.360 about the jews yes and and it's it's a jewish state and there are american jews who support a jewish
00:01:42.400 state and there are millions of evangelical christians who worship a jewish god and want
00:01:51.040 the jews to be in control of the holy land so the apocalypse can come about this is what it is about 1.00
00:01:57.280 it's not really about money money is makes it makes things flow it it makes things work but it's it's
00:02:07.600 actually fundamentally about the jews and so when you just avoid that you're like jews what i didn't
00:02:14.480 say jews i'm not talking about jews it's it's this like feigned ignorance and i it just annoys me on
00:02:21.520 some level because you have to say that if you're going to talk about this case this matter seriously
00:02:28.480 yes because the only reason there's a disagreement here or an unwillingness to connect between ted
00:02:35.040 cruz and tucker is that there is a a cloud of nebulous uncertainty around allegiances is a jew from
00:02:44.080 texas more of an israeli is he more of an american this is important so what tucker is trying to bring
00:02:51.840 it he's trying to sanitize the issue to the point where it's becoming a bureaucratic ticket issue like
00:02:59.760 is a pack exactly following the world of the word of the law or is it a little bit beside and should
00:03:06.160 we find them ten thousand dollars besides this this is a very bureaucratic question the actual question
00:03:13.840 is a question of civilization allegiance and what is america 100 percent um let me just do this let me
00:03:24.800 finish this exchange and then i'll address these two questions we have good on behalf not simply
00:03:31.120 of myself but on my many jewish friends who would have the same oh god which is to what extent yeah
00:03:36.320 all your jewish friends are like i i have these questions what about
00:03:39.840 god this is really the equivalent of like my black friend dislikes affirmative action or so it's just
00:03:55.440 like i'm not racist yeah i have a jewish friend questioning my jewish friend he's very articulate
00:04:02.960 he loves basketball i mean i don't mean it in that way uh okay um it's just yeah and i it's
00:04:14.720 interesting you're trying to derail my questions by calling me an anti-semit which you are i did not
00:04:18.880 of course you are and and rather than be honorable enough to say it right to my face
00:04:23.440 you are in a sleazy feline way implying it or just asking questions about right that's good questions
00:04:29.280 about the jews i have there's nothing to do with jews or judaism it has to with a foreign
00:04:34.320 government isn't israel controlling our foreign policy that's not about the you said i'm asking
00:04:39.200 by the way you're the one that just called me i think a sleazy feline so let's see i'll hand it
00:04:44.160 to tucker that's a good line sleazy feline that's a good line what he said but the weird thing about it
00:04:50.960 is that in a way i guess i have this contrarian instinct to always give the devil his due in a weird
00:04:58.640 way ted cruz is being more honest because tucker it the the fact that you utter this isn't about
00:05:07.520 the jews while you're discussing apac and israel it just leads me to believe that you're just not
00:05:13.920 serious yes there you go all right let's watch just a little bit more and then i'll get to questions
00:05:20.720 clear easy to imply that and i'm an anti-semite which you just did no i just when i'm asking you're
00:05:27.120 asking you answer it give me another reason if you're not an anti-semite give me another reason
00:05:31.200 why the obsession is israel i am in no sense obsessed with israel we are on the brink of war
00:05:36.400 with iran and so these are valid questions but you're not asking if i can finish you asked me
00:05:45.440 why i'm obsessed with israel yep three minutes after telling me that when you first ran for congress
00:05:50.960 you elucidated one of your main goals which is to defend israel yes and i'm the one who's obsessed with
00:05:56.320 israel i don't see a lawmaker's job as defending the interests of a foreign government period any
00:06:01.280 government including the ones that my ancestors come from so that's my position that does not
00:06:04.640 make me an anti-semite and shame on you for suggesting otherwise and i mean that and that's 0.93
00:06:09.520 low and you know it's low so why don't you just answer my finger has been whacked way you certainly
00:06:14.400 have the iq to do it so shame on you is cute by the way tucker it is it's not cute i'm offended 0.86
00:06:20.240 you're i'm obsessed with the jews you just told me you just called me a sleazy feline it is sleazy to
00:06:27.120 imply that i'm an anti-semite for asking questions about how my government you want to count how many
00:06:31.840 questions you asked about what about the jews what about israel what about you never asked about the
00:06:35.600 jews i i have this has nothing to do with the jews whatever that means this has to do with a foreign
00:06:42.160 government and once again shame on you for conflating the two they have nothing to do with each 0.80
00:06:48.080 other i'm talking about the influence israel again that's just ridiculous ted cruz gets it
00:06:53.280 right jews which i am not nor would i ever be undertaking now i'm not attacking anybody by the 0.95
00:07:00.160 way that's that's who who iran wants to kill is all the jews and all the americans and i'm totally
00:07:05.040 opposed to that okay but now because except you don't want to do anything about decisions need to be
00:07:10.720 made we can talk about those decisions and i plan to good but i just want to get a sense of whether you
00:07:15.920 think having described yourself as an america first person whose only criterion for judgment
00:07:21.120 on foreign policy is america's national interest to what extent you're influenced by a foreign
00:07:24.640 government which gives you a lot of money through its lobby and you're claiming this has nothing to
00:07:28.480 do with the foreign government they're not coordinating yes you're spying on us but doesn't
00:07:31.200 bother you and i'm sort of wondering like what is this this is the one of the weirdest conversations
00:07:35.840 i've ever had i'll tell you what and i'll answer any question you like but let's try to
00:07:39.680 are you going to call me an anti-semit again or no let's try to ratchet down the temperature
00:07:43.440 a little you're the one who went to motive i'm asking honest questions yeah i'm just asking
00:07:47.920 questions yes that's it that is what i'm doing yeah let's try to ratchet down the temperature a
00:07:52.640 little bit picture the house of your dreams maybe it's got an outdoor pool a huge no
00:08:00.480 he does a lot of ads the thing is anyways farah is the wrong thing it's the wrong angle to all this
00:08:09.440 and what we would need is to sit down with tucker and say okay suppose suppose that there were a bunch
00:08:16.400 of of supporters of guana of free of guana who never talked to the government of guana there are a bunch
00:08:25.200 of black people in america they really really love the country and suppose that they had their fundraising
00:08:32.240 campaigns it would be a breach of the farah's goal of of the farah spirit but it wouldn't be a technical
00:08:42.640 breach that you can prove in court and the ultimate reasoning that we have to reach from this is farah
00:08:49.520 is not aggressive enough because farah doesn't go at enemies on the inside and we need legislative tools
00:08:58.320 to consider the fact that there are enemies on the inside of america yes definitely and and the fact
00:09:09.200 in a way that you need this legalistic mechanism kind of expresses the problem you know the fact that you
00:09:17.280 need just money just cash in a bag handed to someone to say something sort of gets at the problem because
00:09:26.080 it's it's it should be understood that not only is that illegal but it's just not done
00:09:34.640 it's borderline treasonous like you you're we're not going to even listen to you
00:09:40.240 if we even suspect that you are operating in that way um a a
00:09:47.440 yeah it's interesting that this is a conversation between two gentiles um there uh sam cedar who's
00:09:57.840 jewish um he has said many times that zionism is not judaism um which is a sort of interesting deflection
00:10:08.800 to say it's a settler colonial state and then you have bill and then you have bill maher on the other
00:10:14.480 hand who's an atheist who's been a zionist his entire life who's also jewish he's he's half jewish
00:10:22.000 i believe yeah go on yeah yeah irish and jewish yeah yeah and he's an atheist and has been a zionist
00:10:29.040 and atheist his entire life and has said numerous times that well the religion might be bad but did you
00:10:37.200 know that the archaeology in the bible actually checks out which is not even true and i think to
00:10:44.240 myself why would you even care you don't like religion but apparently you like it in this case
00:10:50.000 so uh these like two like sussman jews are like and they don't like each other um they they don't seem 0.99
00:10:59.120 to get it it's like there is no situation in which you would have a jewish state first of all jews
00:11:06.720 have never had a jewish state it doesn't even like this is a new thing there's no archaeology to there's
00:11:12.880 no there's no archaeology this is that there is no archaeology of any kind that would prove that
00:11:21.120 david had a united monarchy it is right it is the bible that is the source for all of this stuff
00:11:30.000 there would be no israel without the bible there would be no israel without judaism and also to
00:11:37.520 go against sam cedar i mean look i just to give sam cedar some some credit sam cedar is a
00:11:45.200 legitimate genuine liberal jew and i don't i don't think he's like twirling his mustache
00:11:54.320 behind the scenes being like oh i tricked them again i'm actually operating on behalf of israel i
00:11:59.120 don't i don't think that at all but now at the same time like we're reading exodus we read genesis in
00:12:07.520 uh it last winter we're reading exodus now the entire story is about going to canaan and seizing
00:12:17.760 the land that was promised leading up to david and the jewish state that is what the plot is about so
00:12:28.960 this idea that judaism is not or zionism is not judaism it's a bit like saying that
00:12:35.840 you know christianity isn't about the gospels it's like uh okay you know maybe but it's just
00:12:46.880 it's just fundamentally dishonest or in sam's case i think he might not want to face that reality
00:12:52.480 because he has a residual a totally understandable connection to judaism is how we grew up but
00:13:00.880 you know it's just yes zionism is judaism yes that is more that is more accurate to say that like it
00:13:11.360 has nothing to do with it and it's a european colonial state or or something you know and i and i remember
00:13:20.240 um i don't know if you remember this but um during the first trump campaign there were a lot of
00:13:26.560 evangelicals you know once they got on the trump train it took them a while um they were calling
00:13:33.120 trump the modern day cyrus yeah um which is interesting now that's from chronicles where cyrus
00:13:40.720 is a king for people don't know cyrus was a king uh he was a gentile king who ended the babylonian
00:13:46.960 captivity and allowed jews to come home and he was seen as a he's not jewish but he's a sort of vessel
00:13:54.400 for god's will and it's interesting because um american presidents if you if you read the sort of
00:14:03.680 history of the zionist lobby american presidents have actually been called a sort of um heirs to cyrus
00:14:14.160 there's actually a book it's called um american presidents religion in israel the heirs of cyrus by
00:14:20.160 paul charles markley interesting and he actually he actually talks about this like there is within
00:14:28.320 the uh sort of dynamic between american presidents zionist the zionist lobby and israel a sort of king
00:14:37.120 cyrus complex and a sort of you know we're allowing the jews to come home through a sort of goyim empire 1.00
00:14:44.560 namely the american empire you're allowing jews to escape um a sort of what happened with the
00:14:51.920 holocaust and the second world war which is their sort of excuse for this um it's just an interesting
00:14:58.080 that the dynamic constantly plays out and to say it's a settler colonial project well yeah sure it
00:15:03.040 is to some degree wouldn't exist but it wouldn't exist without the bible and without that inherent
00:15:08.960 dynamic i couldn't say it better yes so it's also interesting of trump saying he's king of israel which
00:15:21.280 he also said which it shouldn't be equated with being king of the jews which of course is the the
00:15:29.120 moniker that was placed on on jesus as he was crucified um and why he was crucified by claiming that he was
00:15:36.960 king king king of the jews um being king of israel is is almost something different and it does imply
00:15:44.560 a kind of non-jewish gentile who is building the temple um or it might apply herod i mean in some ways
00:15:52.560 but um it's uh yeah cyrus is absolutely the best metaphor and remember cyrus is also described as
00:16:02.400 anointed that is cyrus is a messiah the anointed one but he is it's it's obviously a different type of
00:16:10.880 messiah than david or or jesus right and i i think another thing is that i mean if you look at luke's
00:16:19.440 gospel um with the parable the persistent widow and the unjust judge um that jesus relates to the crowd
00:16:28.480 he's basically explaining the dynamic between the zionist lobby and the sort of american empire
00:16:37.120 and america the american congress and sort of american political power in the sense that the
00:16:41.920 zionist lobby and israel uh domestic policy towards the palestinians has been incredibly persistent and
00:16:50.960 there has been no sort of um uh negotiation or diplomacy it's just this is what we want we're
00:16:58.720 going to do it and we're going to defy international law we're going to commit war crimes we're going to 0.85
00:17:05.040 do genocide we're going to buy politicians we're going to do it shamelessly and stop us you know it's
00:17:13.840 sort of a big giant dare just stop us and it works i mean in the story of course in luke you know the
00:17:21.360 widow obviously does get what she wants and zionists have also gotten what they want um unfortunately the 1.00
00:17:28.080 problem is that um you know she's still a widow and the judge is still a judge you know there's still
00:17:33.920 this power dynamic of you know you still have to go to the goyim for for the martial aspect of this 0.85
00:17:40.640 yes otherwise you're you're powerless that's the interesting part of it it's like you could just
00:17:46.160 say no to them but there's no will to do that and they believe it so strongly i think that's the
00:17:53.840 other problem you know that you know i don't think you can call american presidents who have supported
00:18:00.720 zionism and they all have for a very long time i don't think you could call them you know like you
00:18:06.080 could say mustache twirlers no they actually believe it yeah i think they really do because
00:18:11.360 it's a christian moral ethos you know this is one of the fundamental insights of mark brahman and rem
00:18:21.760 theory it's you know christians like to have this convenient and sort of self-serving notion christian
00:18:31.040 nationalists or right-wingers that the jews just hate christians they hate uh americans they hate 0.87
00:18:38.800 whites and i can see that on a from a on a certain angle but the fundamental reality is that they 0.99
00:18:49.280 desperately need christians they desperately need whites they desperately need americans uh israel cannot 0.77
00:18:57.760 exist without the british empire and uh uh harry truman and the united nations and american power 0.54
00:19:05.920 and all that kind of stuff and that is the dynamic it's more insidious it's more difficult it's more
00:19:14.000 complicated and it's more ambivalent you could even say then they just hate us i i don't it's one
00:19:22.240 sort of insight that i think we all reach is that they don't hate us like it's that it would be sort
00:19:30.080 of easier like if they were like the cartoon version of khomeini and they they just desperately 0.97
00:19:36.400 want to slaughter as many white bible thumping you know iowans as they can they just hate americans 0.98
00:19:44.000 or it's not jews don't have that perspective towards this and and and if you're you're engaging in a 1.00
00:19:51.200 sort of convenient self-serving in this blind uh um uh conception of jews if you think that they need 0.99
00:19:59.920 you they love you and therefore we inherit our responsibility to learn to say no yeah and and uh
00:20:10.160 i think the jews do hate us i think they just hate everyone including themselves but they hate us equally to everyone 0.99