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In this episode, the boys discuss the recent arrest of Andrew Tate, a man who is being held in Romania on charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking. Also, we discuss the man himself, Nick Fuentes.
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All right. Tate would be an interesting subject, Richard. I'll let you go with that.
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Okay. Well, so he's been arrested again. So to give the background on the matter, he went to
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Romania, according to his own words, because they didn't have laws there, or they at least
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didn't enforce them. And which is a kind of odd statement to make. He did. I mean, Tate
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isn't lying when he said when he boasts about being like, the most relevant human on the
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planet. Like when he says, I'm the most googled person. And your your nine year old knows who
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who I am. And your nine year old can't name the vice president of the United States. So
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the chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank or whatever, that all of that is it may be exaggerated
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slightly. But like, that's actually pretty accurate. Sadly. I actually asked my, my nephews are
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in their early 20s. And I was actually asking them, I like over like New Year's dinner or
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something. I was I was kind of curious. And I was like, Have you ever heard of Nick
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Fuentes? And neither of them had it was just went over their head. They're like, Who's that
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never heard of in my life? And I was like, Okay, interesting. Then I was like, Do you know
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who Andrew Tate is? And they were both like, Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like, Oh, God, this is
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totally depressing. But so he became extremely relevant with the manosphere, and a kind of
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combination of a lot of things like there was the manosphere, there was all all of the red pill
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stuff. And then there was also this, you can become a billionaire by hustling. So very similar
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to that guy. I don't know. I don't know if I ever knew his name, but you've certainly seen him on
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YouTube, at least like four or five years ago. He would like do a video of his garage, and there
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would be like a Maserati or Lamborghini his garage. And he talked about like reading three
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books a day and how you just hustle your way to multimillionaire status through the internet
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and blah, blah, blah. Tate, I think, picked up on that as well. I mean, he had these like
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hustle university or whatever it's called, etc, where he would teach you to do things. And it was
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all a huge scam. You know, maybe 2% of the people made money doing drop shipping on Amazon or whatever
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the fuck he was offering them, but everyone else just got fleeced. And there was no obviously like
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value to what he was offering. And so it was this kind of weird combination. And then they had the man
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himself. I mean, he can, you know, he's a former kickboxer. He's obviously super in shape, maybe
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steroid induced, but who knows. And, you know, to be entirely charitable, I mean, there were some funny
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things about him, like when he would, he made this. I remember this one clip where he was like,
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he was like, you got to understand. See, I'm a deep thinker. You're playing checkers. I'm playing
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chess. I'm on a much deeper level here. And so I asked you this question. You have the hottest
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transsexual on the planet. And then you have the ugliest heterosexual woman. So the woman will look
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like Hulk Hogan. She'll literally have a mustache and big muscles. And the transsexual will look like
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Megan Fox. And so I ask you, which is gayer? It's just funny. I mean, I have to say, it's just so
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ridiculous. That sounds funny. I'm gonna have to Google it. Yeah, there is. I mean, there is. And
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it's kind of like Nick Flindes when he's like having sex with women is gay. It's like, it's so
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outrageous and kind of like gets at some weird teenage mentality that it it's just funny. I mean,
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I'll kind of hand him this. But the other aspect of this is there are two more aspects that are worth
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talking about. The other one is that he is by his own admission, you know, engaging in a sort of sex
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trafficking. Now, whether it's legal sex trafficking or not, I don't quite know. But like he is creating
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a harem of women on OnlyFans and, you know, chat rooms and live streams in his house who and he's
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taking a percentage of them. I mean, it's even if that is legal, like, let's say they all consented to
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do this. It's extremely disturbing and dubious, and etc. I don't want to go into it. Yeah. But I
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think it actually probably was illegal. And that's what he's being charged for. And when you're doing
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that kind of stuff, you kind of do start to question like, what else are you doing? You know,
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like, when you meet people who are, you know, like, they're, they're, they have a harem of girls
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in a, in a house, and they're all doing OnlyFans. Like, you're not jumping to conclusions where you're
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like, oh, and are they also prostitutes? You know, or, oh, are they also sex slaves? Or, oh, are you also
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beating them for pleasure? Like, those, you're not like, jumping to conclusions by asking those
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questions when someone is doing that? You know, I don't need to say more. So anyway, there's the
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other aspect of he just became this god on the alt-right, and all of these alt-right people made
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pilgrimages. I mean, like, I hate to even say it, because I don't have any, like, animosity towards
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him. But like, you know, like, Michaela Peterson visited Andrew Tate. You know, like, I'm sorry,
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what happened when you visited Andrew Tate? You know, maybe he didn't have sex with you. I don't
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know. What else? I mean, like, they're just these questions that are raised by this. And I even saw
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all of these guys, even, even some of these red pill guys that I knew at some point, like,
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Dennis Mangan, who I remember wrote for alternativeright.com. I mean, I remember him
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coming out in favor of Andrew Tate. And he was like, well, I talked to Andrew Tate. And I don't
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know if he ever visited him in Romania. But like, you know, he seems like a great guy. And, you know,
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I can't imagine he did this. And all this just, you know, nonsensical defense of Andrew. He's a
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great guy, you know, whatever, you know, you know, yeah, lots of criminals are like really fun to be
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like, most criminals are probably like kind of fun to talk to, or whatever. Like, it's a totally
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irrelevant defense. But anyway, I just the connection between all of the right wing, and even like
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mainstream media, and Andrew Tate is incredible, like Candace Owens, PJW, or Paul Joseph Watson,
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et cetera, they all visited Andrew Tate. It's like he was this node for about two years there.
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The other aspect of what is going on here? So I saw, I'll post this video in the chat or
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something. So I found it last night. There is this guy in YouTube, I don't think I've subscribed
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to him, but I've watched a few of his videos. And I think the name of his channel is What Do You
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Meme? And he's this black American guy. He's very laid back. And he's actually a sincere
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Protestant. And he does kind of like discussions of internet culture. I don't even know how I came
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across him. It must have just been the algorithm or something. But, you know, the guy, the guy's
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cool. Like, he's fine. He is a sincere Protestant believer who talks about culture and stuff like
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this. And he did this, he did this video. And I saw, I saw a video about Andrew Tate. And I watched
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it, you know, and I was, you know, relaxing or whatever. And he got it something that I found
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kind of fascinating because he basically, so he is a sincere Christian. And he was saying that,
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like, what do we make of all of these, these influencers going over to Christianity? So
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like 10 years ago, Dave Rubin was an atheist and now he's Christian or Christian sympathetic.
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Andrew Tate also did atheist stuff and just called, you know, if you're a Christian,
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you're weak minded and whatever. This was all 10 years ago. And all of this, and he had
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evidence, he had videos of them talking this way. And they've all just kind of like come over to
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Christianity. And actually this guy who's sincere was, was kind of like, is this a good thing?
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Because they're making really bad arguments for the faith basically. And is, is, is becoming a
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Christian now this kind of like way to own the libs effectively? And is that actually bad? Because
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from his standpoint, like you don't become a Christian because it's like badass or whatever,
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like you become a Christian because you're going to hell otherwise. And Jesus has sacrificed himself
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for your sins. Like, that's why you're a Christian. And there's really, there, there may be other
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reasons, but that's the sine qua non of why you're a Christian. And if you're a Christian for another
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reason, you should maybe question, you know, you should be questioned. So he's basically saying these
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guys are making terrible arguments, but isn't it interesting? So I saw that and I, and I, there's
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this trajectory of atheism to Christianity and you see this Nico, there was some other guy that got in a
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Twitter battle. I didn't even respond to him, but he got into a Twitter battle with, uh, our, our buddy.
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Um, uh, um, uh, Oh gosh, why am I forgetting his name at the moment? He was on the show, uh,
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Adam green. And, uh, he got into a Twitter battle with, with us. And this guy claims to be a Christian,
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but he also claims to like be fucking a hundred chicks a day or something. Like he's this weird
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character, like an Andrew Tate acolyte or Andrew Tate light. And they've all adopted all this stuff.
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And they, they've also adopted a kind of QAnon, like the world is satanic. Like this was Andrew
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Tate's justification for God. He, it was a bizarre nonsensical one, which is like, there's so much,
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the devil clearly exists because we see, you know, Hollywood and transsexuals or whatever. So the devil
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clearly exists and thus God must exist. And thus I'm a Muslim. I mean, total nonsense, but I don't
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know. Um, and isn't it interesting that all of these people become Christians like that, that's
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kind of like the end point of the right-wing grip, like, and, and Tate himself who has some connection,
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maybe it's just a selfie connection, but photographic connection, but some connection
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with Saudis is promoting Islam while he is, you know, engaging with teenage boys on Tik TOK in the
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most, you know, low hanging fruit, common denominator way. Like he's just basically talking about,
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you know, women are bitches. You want to get laid, go fuck them, treat them like shit, get a big car.
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Like he's, he's, he's engaging in this like teenage fantasy nightmare, you know, way. And then he's
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also kind of slipping in Islam on the side, like, oh, and by the way, you know, Islam's bad-ass and,
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and he's sympathetic towards Christianity. It's just not like hard enough or something. And isn't it
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interesting that these characters are all like promoting that? Isn't it also interesting that
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the foundation of the alt-right as it emerged was, was Trump, you know, to a primary degree, but,
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but was also the refugee crisis in Europe of these, and, and, and a sexualized version of the refugee
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crisis. So he's like, all these young men are crossing borders and they're raping white women,
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you know, like Cologne, Germany and, and, you know, new year's Eve of 2016. They're, they're,
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they're just gang raping women in public and whatever. And isn't it interesting that like,
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that was such a primary and remains just such a primary motivation for the right. And yet their
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hero becomes a Muslim sex trafficking gang rapist. Isn't that curious? What do we make of that? I
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don't know. But anyway, these are my thoughts on Tate. I don't know if you guys want to jump in on