RadixJournal - The Arrest of Nick Fuentes

00:00:00.000 All right. Hope everyone is doing well. I might just vamp here for five seconds as the

00:00:09.020 connection is taking place. Hope everyone can hear me and everything. Well, anyway, I'll start

00:00:16.620 talking. So we are forced to discuss Nicholas Jake Fuentes and his recent arrest. I think he

00:00:27.320 has a hearing coming up in a couple of days. And I'm actually going to be brutally honest

00:00:33.040 about the situation. And so I think I might even sort of piss off both sides. I don't think so.

00:00:40.880 I'm going to be definitely honest. So I've seen the video of the incident that took place. And

00:00:49.080 this came after the election. It came after Nick went mega viral with a monologue and tweet

00:00:57.660 regarding, you know, your body, my choice. You know, look, he was obviously joking, but

00:01:04.640 kind of asking for a response to that one. But, you know, he was a comedian. He is a comedian,

00:01:11.220 of course. And there were death threats. There was a massive reaction to it. People were singing

00:01:19.520 songs about attacking him and so on. I think that Nick understandably felt like his life was in danger

00:01:32.120 to some extent, that someone might very well come over and try to harm him or do something.

00:01:39.340 So I think his reaction is very understandable. That being said, this is the problem. He's been

00:01:47.900 charged with a misdemeanor battery. And that can go up to one year. Now, I think that would be

00:01:57.380 totally outrageous if that happened. But if any of you guys are subscribers to our, you know, our

00:02:05.940 members only talks, you can go back to the feed and listen to me talk about it then.

00:02:10.200 I do think he did the wrong thing at the end of the day. And I'm just going to be honest. I would

00:02:15.180 certainly say this, you know, to his face. He should have either not opened the door or if he did open

00:02:25.660 the door, don't just come out swinging in the sense of spraying mace. Talk to her if you want. You don't

00:02:33.100 have to. You, you, you're, you know, you have a right to be in your own home. So I do, I'm just

00:02:38.980 going to be honest here. The whole thing was, you know, fairly funny and everything, but I think he's

00:02:44.720 in the wrong. Now, that being said, the idea of Nick going to prison for this, you know, lapse of

00:02:59.120 judgment, I think would be just beyond insane. And, you know, a lot of people use the term

00:03:05.580 anarcho-tyranny as coined by Sam Francis in Chronicles magazine, you know, 30 years ago,

00:03:12.500 or maybe even more than that. It's the notion that the state is tolerating people whom it should

00:03:21.540 arrest or prevent from being a menace to society while it goes after with almost a totalitarian

00:03:30.900 intensity, maybe even glee against people who are upholding society. So it's a sort of worst of

00:03:40.120 both worlds situation. And, you know, this arrest comes in the shadow of the Daniel Penny situation

00:03:48.280 in New York City. I've read about the case. I, I've, I've not, you know, I've obviously not seen

00:03:55.280 every detail of it. Very tough situation, of course, but I, I definitely think that he was not

00:04:02.780 attempting to kill, uh, this young man, Michael Jackson impersonator. Uh, I think he was genuinely

00:04:10.480 trying to save the rest of the people in the car, actually in his interrogation, which, which has

00:04:15.900 been released. And I, I watched the whole thing, his interrogation, interrogation with the cops.

00:04:20.740 He said, I wasn't trying to kill him. I was, I was, you know, putting him into

00:04:23.780 hold. I feared for my life. I feared for the lives of people around me. He said, I'm, I'm going to kill

00:04:30.680 you all y'all. I'm willing to go to jail for life. I don't care anymore. I mean, this, this character 1.00

00:04:35.900 is clearly suffering from, uh, mental illness. I mean, I, people have, I think there was one report

00:04:43.660 that he was suffering from schizophrenia. Uh, he's out of control. He, he is a genuine menace to society.

00:04:50.500 Uh, and, um, tough situation, but the, the idea of putting Daniel Penny away for 15 years from

00:04:58.860 manslaughter seems just outrageous. Um, I, I don't know what's going to happen on that front, but the

00:05:07.220 fact that we're even thinking about putting Nick away for a year for this lapse of judgment, I, I think

00:05:17.460 is, is outrageous. It's the kind of thing that he doesn't have a criminal record. Maybe some people

00:05:24.580 can consider him to be a menace to society, uh, due to his live stream, but obviously he's engaging

00:05:30.340 in the first amendment. And, um, uh, just the idea that you need to punish him severely or take him

00:05:38.580 off the streets just strikes me as insane. Um, so I don't know what I hope might happen. I, I hope

00:05:45.640 he gets probation or it's thrown out perhaps. I'm not sure that will happen because there is a sort

00:05:52.340 of crime that took place. The macing that was unprompted. Uh, but, um, the idea of punishing him

00:06:01.360 severely just, just seems insane. Uh, it just seems insane, but there's all of this tolerance shown

00:06:08.400 towards criminals around the country. The idea that you'd crack down on Nick Fuentes, just throw the book

00:06:14.420 at him. Uh, yeah, that, that would in itself be just a miscarriage of justice. It's the kind of thing

00:06:20.240 that I think it's bad, you know, a slap on the wrist, uh, give him some time to learn his lesson,

00:06:26.280 not do it again and, uh, let him go. I think that would be, um, uh, totally fine. I, I was talking

00:06:33.900 actually with someone this afternoon and this relates to anarcho tyranny. There is a degree to which

00:06:41.180 our society is, does have like the, the worst of both worlds in terms of crime and justice

00:06:52.160 and so on. There, there seems to be a sort of assumption of, on the one hand, we deserve total

00:07:01.880 safety. And on the other hand, there are people such as the assistant DA in New York city who are

00:07:10.180 talking about, you know, restorative justice. Um, there was a, there's a, you know, viral clip going

00:07:15.800 around of a, um, uh, of your, your, your Ron, your Ron, the assistant DA who's prosecuting Daniel

00:07:23.280 Penny. And, uh, she was saying, well, there was a robbery at an ATM of a elderly, uh, Asian man. And

00:07:33.460 it was a young black man, but he pushed him down. He probably didn't mean to hurt him, but I just felt

00:07:38.760 so sorry for him. And, you know, let's, let's not charge him for criminal murder. Let's, um, you

00:07:44.860 know, bring it down several notches. This will sort of restore justice on some cosmic level. Uh, so we

00:07:52.280 have a situation like that. Um, and then we have an almost over emphasis on safety that I think is sort

00:08:02.640 of anti-civilizational, uh, and I, I saw this growing up with much of the anti-bullying and so on that was

00:08:11.200 taking place in school. Now, again, I'm not endorsing, uh, any sort of, uh, you know, harsh bullying. Obviously

00:08:18.860 bullying can get out of control. Uh, but it's also sort of part of life. Um, I don't know. I, I can remember

00:08:28.240 even when I was at summer camp, uh, I was probably 11 or 12 getting into my first fist fight and,

00:08:36.640 you know, you know, the council broke it up and so on. Um, I actually got a good punch in the guy

00:08:43.360 attacked me. I mean, I was my, it's all coming from my perspective. So take with a great assault,

00:08:49.100 but in some ways, like part of life is getting into trouble. Part of life is experiencing some sort

00:08:57.100 of danger. Uh, I don't know. I mean, if, if two guys out at a bar get into a fist fight, you know,

00:09:06.440 is that really something that we should charge them with assault for and put them away for a decade?

00:09:13.040 Is that, isn't that sort of part of life? So I, I don't know. I, there, there is this overriding,

00:09:19.740 um, uh, overriding assumption of, of total safety. The idea that any sort of violence,

00:09:30.500 even if it's very limited, um, is just totally something that cannot be accepted. And you see

00:09:38.580 this, I think that sort of spirit undergirds both the, the prosecution of say Nick Fuentes for something

00:09:47.100 that wasn't a big deal in my opinion, but also, um, the, the, the notion that, you know,

00:09:55.300 Oh, that guy, you know, he, yeah, he might've murdered someone, but we're just going to let

00:09:59.100 him off. It's that there's, there's, there seems to be one sort of impulse running through all those

00:10:03.880 things. Um, so anyway, just to recap, we had a number of people come in. I, I do think

00:10:11.800 to be brutally Frank here that Nick was in the wrong when he stepped out of his house,

00:10:19.820 he didn't have to step out of his house and he threw the first punch as it were, he maced this

00:10:26.980 woman. I mean, I'm just going to be honest. Uh, that being said, it's just simply not a big deal.

00:10:34.020 And the, the notion of, of some sort of severe punishment of Nick just strikes me as a totally

00:10:41.060 outrageous, um, probation, suspended sentence, some light thing. I, that's what you should do

00:10:47.880 in this sort of situation. Um, anyway, that's, I guess that's kind of all I got. I just wanted to

00:10:55.980 jump on and, uh, throw out a few ideas. You guys asked me a question in the comments. I'll answer it.

00:11:02.520 Uh, a good question. That is not one of your tickle, uh, typical inane comments. Can you

00:11:08.960 counter sue? Uh, it's not, well, first off, it's not a civil lawsuit. It's a, it's a criminal

00:11:15.320 complaint. I mean, I, I guess he could start suing some of these people who were calling

00:11:21.580 for violence or something. I don't know how far that will go. I mean, again, it's a, he's

00:11:26.600 a public figure. Uh, there's a free speech element to this.

00:11:32.520 This particularly with the public figure. I mean, basically say that the president of

00:11:37.160 the United States is the devil himself and get away with it. You probably can't say that

00:11:41.280 about your neighbor. Who's a, uh, private citizen. Um, would this be a big deal for Ben Pink

00:11:47.860 Shapiro? Uh, I hope conservatives, uh, come out and come out in support of Nick. I hope they

00:11:55.660 say, uh, what I said, it's best to be honest about the situation. Uh, I, I think some people

00:12:02.520 saying like he did nothing wrong or something. Look, it's, it's okay to do things that are

00:12:08.040 wrong. We we've all done things that are wrong. It's best to be honest about it. But, um, again,

00:12:13.060 this notion that he's going to be severely punished is, is what I find just, uh, totally absurd. I mean,

00:12:20.520 his response was understandable. He was not, it's, it's just a huge difference between someone who say

00:12:27.360 walking around the streets of Chicago, uh, macing people at random for the thrill of it.

00:12:35.000 Uh, that is totally different. Uh, getting very anxious and nervous, feeling like people are going

00:12:44.000 to come to your house and attack you and then kind of striking first and striking with a non-lethal

00:12:49.400 weapon. Uh, mace is meant to get people off your case. It's not meant to do permanent damage

00:12:56.960 or something. It's not meant to kill anyone. So, um, do you think that Nick paying a less than 1k fine

00:13:04.200 is reasonable in exchange for a deferred? Yes. Adjudication. Yeah. Something like that.

00:13:10.920 Um, I, I think that would be, uh, fine. Is he free now? I think he's free. I think he did a

00:13:16.960 live stream tonight. Um, he should, he's just on his own recon reconnaissance as they say, and legalese.

00:13:24.620 Um, all right. I'll answer two more questions if you have them. Uh, if this were any other

00:13:33.880 party would charges even be pursued, good question. I don't know the answer to that. Um, I, I would

00:13:41.220 probably say maybe, uh, you know, I don't know if it's just sort of imagine a different situation.

00:13:49.980 You, your neighbor hates you or something like that. You got into a big screaming match

00:13:54.980 and then you walk over to your neighbor's house to apologize and she sprays, uh, mace in your face.

00:14:03.140 Again, even in that situation, I, I don't think that person should be thrown under the jail or spend

00:14:09.560 hard time, like a year in, in jail. Is that prison? What is it? Over a year's prison or I forgot what

00:14:16.720 it is. Um, no, even in that hypothetical situation, I came up with the idea of severely punishing people

00:14:23.540 without criminal records who are not a menace to society. They're, they're not doing this all the

00:14:28.760 time. They're, they're not brazenly and with depravity going around, you know, town assaulting

00:14:37.380 people. I mean, I, I just, I don't think that those people should be punished, uh, severely. I think the

00:14:45.540 slap on the wrist, maybe a literal slap on the wrist. He should hold out his wrist, take the slap

00:14:52.560 and then go on his merry way. That would be, uh, uh, reasonable. Uh, Rand Paul's neighbor got

00:15:00.480 arrested for worse. I, I, I forgot the details of that case. Wasn't, wasn't there someone who's

00:15:05.460 trying to kill Rand Paul at some point? Um, do you think this is an example of an anti-Semitic

00:15:12.380 a-crime? No, no. I, I, I think Nick, Nick was freaked out, understandably freaked out. And he just,

00:15:20.020 he, he came out swinging and he shouldn't have done that. As I said, I'm going to be honest about

00:15:26.920 it. Um, do you think Donaldson, the autonomy versus asylum suit was justified? I don't know what

00:15:35.040 that is. All right, guys. Well, I just wanted to get that off my chest. Uh, maybe I'll do a couple

00:15:42.940 of more of these and, uh, just to, you know, if I have a thought here and there, get it out via the

00:15:49.900 Substack stream. All right, guys. Um, good luck. And also all you subscribers, um, wouldn't now be a

00:16:01.140 good time to get onto the paid subscriptions. You can listen to the full members only discussions.

00:16:08.880 It's not a good thing. Just think about it. All right. Uh, I'll talk to you guys later. Bye.

00:16:14.760 Bye.

RadixJournal - December 07, 2024

The Arrest of Nick Fuentes

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