RadixJournal - The Making of a Murderer

00:00:00.000 Hello, everyone. Welcome back to my journal. I hope you are doing well.

00:00:09.240 Well, we had a rather depressing weekend, and I don't think it was necessarily personally depressing,

00:00:18.880 but it was certainly depressing in terms of the news and how we think of ourselves as a country.

00:00:28.180 Speaking from an American standpoint, I guess you could also say that it was depressing in terms of how other people think of America.

00:00:41.600 We witnessed two rather shocking events.

00:00:49.840 First, there was a mass shooting that left nine dead.

00:00:56.500 I think there are additional others who are in critical condition at a shopping mall in Allen, Texas, which is north of Dallas.

00:01:07.620 This was followed swiftly the next morning by a car accident that might very well have been a car attack.

00:01:17.460 The person who did this is named Jorge Alvarez.

00:01:22.620 So there were two Hispanic males, both involved in things that are terrifying. 1.00

00:01:31.440 School shootings and spree shootings are nothing new, and as depressing, I mean, that word again, as it might be,

00:01:46.900 you could just chalk it all up to mental illness and social contagion and alienation and the availability of dangerous guns in the country, etc.

00:02:03.880 But with both of these attacks, there seemed to be something more.

00:02:08.840 So immediately after the attack occurred in Allen, Texas, I noticed on my Twitter feed that there were...

00:02:24.840 I shouldn't call it gloating exactly.

00:02:27.940 Maybe schadenfreude is getting closer to what I mean.

00:02:31.180 But there was a certain euphoria about the attack of, look at this, an illegal immigrant did it. 1.00

00:02:42.420 So Mauricio Garcia was killed by the police, justifiably.

00:02:49.720 And there was video being passed around of his corpse, and it was clear that he is Hispanic.

00:03:02.620 He is a darker-skinned, mestizo type. 0.58

00:03:09.680 You know what I mean.

00:03:11.280 And so there was a certain euphoria or schadenfreude among the right of, you know, this is what happens when we allow these immigrants in. 1.00

00:03:23.040 They're crazy, they hate America, they're criminals, they're gang members. 0.99

00:03:28.380 And some of them, I assume, are good people. 1.00

00:03:30.480 You know the routine.

00:03:33.480 And similar emotions were expressed regarding the car incident.

00:03:37.900 Then we started to learn more.

00:03:41.900 At first, we learned about a strange tattoo that Garcia had on one of his hands,

00:03:50.740 which strangely reminded me of the logo for the Dallas Public School District.

00:03:59.600 As you might know, I grew up in Dallas.

00:04:02.600 I lived there ever since I was around two years old until I was 19.

00:04:06.460 And I've been back many times, of course.

00:04:09.440 So I know that city well.

00:04:11.520 I'm not sure if I've ever been to Allen, but I've heard of it.

00:04:15.720 Anyway, so there was a lot of, you know, criminology type analysis of the tattoo, what it means.

00:04:25.960 Is it a car dealership?

00:04:27.980 Is it a gang?

00:04:29.040 Is it so on and so forth?

00:04:30.580 There are many very well-organized, violent drug gangs that are involved with the cartels that, of course, involve many young Hispanics. 1.00

00:04:42.200 But then we learned something that was ostensibly, at least, extremely bizarre, surprising.

00:04:53.400 That Garcia had a patch on his vest that said basically right-wing death squads.

00:05:04.140 R-W-D-S. 1.00

00:05:06.580 What does this mean?

00:05:11.560 The first time I ever heard that phrase was not 2016, when that phrase was passed around Twitter on the alt-right.

00:05:24.180 You know, obviously, it was an extremely outlandish and outrageous rhetoric that predominated.

00:05:31.480 But I actually heard it out of the mouth of Ann Coulter.

00:05:35.660 She was actually speaking at CPAC in 2014.

00:05:42.280 CPAC's, of course, the conservative gathering held every year, held multiple times a year, I think.

00:05:47.700 And she said, conservatives should make it clear to Republicans that if they pass amnesty, they're going on to the death squad with the people who wrecked America.

00:06:01.360 That, of course, got huge applause from the crowd.

00:06:07.400 I can remember, I think I was actually in Washington at the time.

00:06:12.120 And I was with a number of other right-wing types.

00:06:17.980 And everyone was like, oh, you know, based, that kind of thing.

00:06:21.820 So what she was saying, effectively, and obviously she was using tough talk and, you know, outrageous language. 0.98

00:06:29.560 But what she was basically saying is that the Republicans pass amnesty. 0.99

00:06:34.880 We're going to put them in a death squad. 1.00

00:06:37.120 I think she meant that we're going to put them to death. 1.00

00:06:40.600 So, again, that meme, I heard it first from Ann Coulter.

00:06:44.980 But the meme was passed around quite a bit on Twitter after that.

00:06:49.460 And during the Trump presidency. 0.96

00:06:53.800 I think in that sense, it was more of a death squad of a group of right-wingers who were going to go kill, you know, who knows, the evil liberals who did this or illegal immigrants or whatever.

00:07:08.300 And it is also kind of referenced to Pinochet and his attacks on his leftist enemies.

00:07:16.980 So what was that patch doing on the vest of Garcia?

00:07:21.260 It's all rather curious.

00:07:23.000 I think you could plausibly say that, well, you know, it's just some coincidence.

00:07:32.460 He found some patch and put it on there.

00:07:34.740 You know, bikers will put on all sorts of crazy patches and so on. 0.99

00:07:37.740 It doesn't mean anything.

00:07:40.660 But I don't think that's the case.

00:07:44.120 And the more we learn about Garcia, the more I think this was not just a kind of narcissistic mass shooting like we saw in Columbine being the paradigm.

00:08:00.200 Of, you know, we're alienated from this school and we're going to go out in a blaze of glory and get revenge against the jocks and the cheerleaders who oppressed us.

00:08:12.320 Something like that.

00:08:13.660 Where it was political in some way.

00:08:16.020 It was kind of sub-political.

00:08:17.500 There's a tinge of politics to it.

00:08:20.040 But it was mostly theatrical and narcissistic.

00:08:24.200 What seems to be suggested by what we learn about Mauricio Garcia is that he was engaged in a kind of terrorism.

00:08:40.960 That is, he was engaged in a political act for a political end.

00:08:44.320 Even if it were nihilistic and led to his own death, it was still trying to accomplish something or at the very least send a message.

00:08:57.400 So once more research was done, we learned that that does seem to be the case.

00:09:06.600 That he seems to have been motivated by right-wing politics.

00:09:10.860 And of course, on Sunday, on Twitter, you know, I mentioned that I saw that kind of schadenfreude, if that's the right term, regarding an immigrant killer. 1.00

00:09:24.420 They then went to a different mode, which is, you know, why is the mainstream media claiming that this guy's a white supremacist?

00:09:31.980 Look at him.

00:09:32.440 He's Hispanic. 0.97

00:09:33.260 How could he possibly be a white supremacist?

00:09:35.920 And, you know, I think a lot of that, almost this, they, the conservatives are kind of obsessed with the idea of a narrative that's being put forward by the liberals.

00:09:48.140 And for good reason, in many ways, I think, you know, all media is kind of storytelling, narrative making.

00:09:53.860 But they take it so far to the extent that it's almost like there's no reality here that this was some gang shooting over drugs.

00:10:06.180 But because those mean old liberals hate conservatives so much, they're going to turn it, they're going to turn Garcia into a conservative or something.

00:10:14.760 Well, the more and more we learn about Garcia, the more clear it becomes that he actually was motivated by this kind of ideology.

00:10:30.160 So I'm just going to read a little bit.

00:10:33.120 This is from a report in the New York Times from today.

00:10:36.600 After Texas mall shooting, searching for motive and grieving for children.

00:10:40.660 Investigators trying to learn why a gunman fatally shot at least eight people at a Texas mall or examining a social media profile rife with hate-filled rants against women and black people that they believe belonged to the gunman.

00:10:56.880 The profile found on the social media site OKRU matches the gunman's birthday and refers to a motel where he was staying before the shooting.

00:11:06.440 The profile also includes language praising Hitler with references to neo-Nazi websites like the Daily Stormer.

00:11:13.940 On Sunday afternoon, officials identified the gunman who was killed at the time, Marcio Garcia.

00:11:19.280 The motive for the attack remains unclear.

00:11:21.140 The police say he opened fire.

00:11:22.660 OK, that's enough.

00:11:25.040 Once we dig even deeper, all of these hints and rumors seem to become corroborated.

00:11:36.440 This is from a Twitter account run by Alexander Reed Ross.

00:11:46.360 He delved deep into the OKRU account.

00:11:51.680 Now, I'm going to talk a little bit about that site later.

00:11:54.120 But he says he was says this is according to the shooter himself, says he was radicalized through reading American Renaissance and V-Dare, then meeting a white nationalist in the army.

00:12:08.640 He was in the army and he was actually discharged at some point for a mental illness.

00:12:12.520 He laughs at the fact that non-whites can be racist, too, adding gotcha, says he walked around with an it's OK to be white T-shirt.

00:12:23.900 And I could go on and on.

00:12:27.380 It actually gets worse or more interesting, depending on your perspective.

00:12:33.440 He actually wrote a post claiming that he was inspired by libs of Tick Tock.

00:12:41.240 That's, of course, this extremely popular Twitter account that basically post videos, as the name implies, from Tick Tock. 0.92

00:12:51.160 They're crazy leftists talking about gender and all that kind of nonsense.

00:12:56.660 They also found a picture of the apparently the shooter. 0.96

00:13:04.580 Now, it's his head is out of the photo, so we can't be sure.

00:13:09.480 But it is a man that seemingly looks like them.

00:13:13.400 It's an Hispanic male and he has a Texas tattoo on his shoulder.

00:13:16.820 And then he also has kind of lightning bolt SS like tattoo and a swastika on his left pectoral.

00:13:24.260 It's actually quite reminiscent of a tattoo that is on the body of Weave, Andrew Algermeyer, who has the same tattoo.

00:13:36.480 It's a tattoo that was made famous or infamous from the movie with Edward Norton, American History X, where he had that on his chest.

00:13:48.240 Again, according to his OKRU account, he was reading The Daily Stormer.

00:13:53.120 So who knows what we can make of this?

00:13:57.780 Now, there's some interesting questions that we can go into.

00:14:05.660 First off, what one might be, what motivated him to do this or what really motivated him to enter into right wing, extreme right ideology?

00:14:18.940 Now, I think a lot of leftist and liberals assume that it is the books and websites and Twitter accounts and just, you know, easy answer giving hate mongering ideology that creates these types of people.

00:14:40.820 So if we could maybe perhaps censor the web or curate content or at least debunk content that's coming from Amran or Vidair or, you know, The Daily Stormer, much worse, or crazy anonymous accounts, etc.

00:15:04.320 Or Russian troll farms.

00:15:06.020 We could just kind of censor this or at the very least debunk it.

00:15:10.400 We could prevent people from falling prey to this.

00:15:15.680 So it's a kind of prey and predator-like dynamic in that mind.

00:15:18.940 Now, you could flip that around and say that people who are already mentally ill are attracted to extreme right positions.

00:15:33.060 Actually, in his book, which I worked on and published, called Spiteful Mutants, Ed Dutton writes about this, and he actually does reach that second conclusion,

00:15:44.700 that, you know, in previous times when we lived in much more conservative or authoritarian or even feudal societies, the way to upset the apple cart would be to be a radical egalitarian or social leveler, etc.

00:16:04.520 And to a very large degree, that's still the case.

00:16:09.620 You know, you think of the stereotype of the alienated goth teenager who, you know, becomes a communist or something like that.

00:16:18.000 But we live in a liberal society now.

00:16:21.900 We have a political theology of effectively liberationist democracy and personal autonomy and all the rest of it.

00:16:36.840 All of the kind of dominant ideology that will ultimately give birth to things like transgenderism, etc. 0.86

00:16:45.700 And in this type of environment, if you are a psychopath, then you are going to be more attracted to the far right.

00:16:57.220 That if you really want to lash out at the world, then this is the way to do it.

00:17:03.900 I mean, those kids who went on Twitter and 4chan in 2016 and spread all these memes.

00:17:11.520 I mean, what were they doing, if not a kind of metaphorical school shooting? 0.98

00:17:19.520 And that's not to say that all of them are dumb or crazy in a kind of obvious sense. 0.98

00:17:28.840 But, you know, you're lashing out online. 0.99

00:17:34.880 You are engaging in rhetoric that is so overheated.

00:17:39.180 It's, you know, gas chamber memes and death squad calls and all that kind of stuff.

00:17:45.700 That what you're doing is kind of consciously and actively attacking your neighbors and countrymen

00:17:55.100 or at the very least other people on these forums.

00:17:59.820 And so someone who has psychopathic traits is going to be attracted to that.

00:18:05.200 Now, there actually is a study that involves around 500 people.

00:18:11.000 It was actually cited by Ed Dutton in the book.

00:18:13.660 It's by Jordan Moss and Peter O'Connor.

00:18:18.640 You know, I don't think any study like this should be considered definitive.

00:18:24.360 Most studies are wrong, as it turns out.

00:18:30.380 And, you know, this is one study.

00:18:34.240 But it does suggest, this is the title of the study,

00:18:37.680 The Dark Triad Traits Predict Authoritarian Political Correctness in Alt-Right Attitudes.

00:18:43.520 So, what he's saying is that people who are part of the dark triad traits,

00:18:50.360 so that is psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism.

00:18:55.940 So, people who are self-absorbed or feel extremely entitled or grandiose

00:19:01.920 or people who are truly psychopathic, have no sense of empathy or no conscience,

00:19:08.300 or Machiavellian people who are really willing to, you know,

00:19:13.560 harm others in order to get their way.

00:19:15.600 People who are like that are much more likely attracted to authoritarianism,

00:19:22.220 mostly of the right, but also maybe of the left. 0.98

00:19:24.840 So, you could say this Garcia character, I mean, he's almost by definition mentally ill 0.97

00:19:32.940 and dysfunctional.

00:19:35.040 I mean, you don't engage in a crime like he engaged in,

00:19:39.400 which, of course, led to his bloody demise, 0.78

00:19:42.240 if you aren't truly mentally disturbed.

00:19:46.580 He was kicked out of the army, apparently, 0.90

00:19:50.200 for having some sort of mental illness.

00:19:54.840 And thus, he is attracted to something that can allow him to lash out.

00:20:04.260 There's a very interesting tidbit from,

00:20:09.900 that was discovered by going through his OKRU account.

00:20:16.240 And he is, this is the one that was inspired by Libs of TikTok.

00:20:20.380 He discusses talking with his teacher in chemistry.

00:20:30.080 And he was shocked, you know, you're a chemistry teacher.

00:20:33.200 What are you doing talking about politics or whatever?

00:20:38.400 And he actually said to her, when she said good morning to him one day,

00:20:42.540 he said, final solution.

00:20:43.980 And at one point, he gave a Roman salute in front of her.

00:20:48.140 And she was, of course, horrified by this.

00:20:52.640 And so, you know, becoming a Nazi in 2023 0.73

00:20:57.660 is kind of the equivalent of listening to heavy metal when you're a teenager

00:21:04.860 or dressing like a goth or dropping acid or what have you.

00:21:09.700 It's a way of achieving rebellion. 0.97

00:21:14.280 And people who are already psychopathic

00:21:17.820 are going to be attracted to things like that.

00:21:23.260 I think there might also be another element to this

00:21:27.960 in terms of causation of a general,

00:21:33.400 a glacially slow but perceivable shift of Hispanics to the right

00:21:41.580 and a sense by Hispanics of being alienated and out of touch with culture.

00:21:51.280 So Hispanics don't get the kind of special adoration, say,

00:22:02.720 that African-Americans get. 0.99

00:22:05.120 They don't get affirmative action to the degree that African-Americans do. 0.99

00:22:10.900 There's, you can see a little bit of this,

00:22:14.140 but they don't get the kind of George Floyd treatment

00:22:17.220 of, you know, some terrible events like the death of George Floyd

00:22:23.320 being amplified to a point where this represents the sins of America,

00:22:29.080 which we must purge through a BLM protest, et cetera.

00:22:36.440 And there certainly is a lot of anti-black racism

00:22:41.480 among the Hispanic community.

00:22:42.760 You can probably say that you can find anti-black racism in every community.

00:22:48.180 And there's almost a way of, you know, this question of who am I?

00:22:55.580 And you could see an Hispanic youth adopting a far-right posture 1.00

00:23:02.900 in this rather extreme and outlandish way. 0.72

00:23:11.080 And what better way to express that you are white 0.99

00:23:15.080 or at the very least you're anti-black and anti-woman 1.00

00:23:17.560 than to just go full Nazi on their ass? 1.00

00:23:22.540 I think that has something to do with it. 0.99

00:23:24.720 Now, I would also be remiss, now that we're talking about causation,

00:23:30.800 in pointing out two other things.

00:23:36.020 There's the proud boy element,

00:23:40.880 and there's also this curious fact

00:23:45.000 that this person was writing a kind of journal of sorts

00:23:50.500 on a site called OKRU,

00:23:53.240 one that I had never heard of until yesterday.

00:23:58.740 Now, let's take the first one first.

00:24:01.460 So, there was a series of events.

00:24:04.840 They're connected in terms of time.

00:24:06.980 Are they actually a sequence?

00:24:08.540 Are they connected in terms of causation?

00:24:11.400 I'm not sure, but I think they might be.

00:24:15.680 So, last week, the chief of the Proud Boys,

00:24:25.640 Enrique Terrio,

00:24:27.140 and other members of the Proud Boy leadership,

00:24:30.980 were convicted of a seditious conspiracy.

00:24:35.420 This is about as big a charge

00:24:43.240 as you could really imagine.

00:24:46.520 They were convicted of conspiring

00:24:49.840 to overturn the government on behalf of Donald Trump.

00:24:54.240 Now, here again, we see the Hispanic connection.

00:24:59.580 So, the Proud Boys were formed in 2018 by Gavin McGinnis.

00:25:04.420 Gavin is a man I knew quite a bit.

00:25:09.280 Actually, when I was editor over at Talkies Magazine

00:25:13.340 in 2008, 2009,

00:25:15.680 I recruited him to be a writer.

00:25:18.620 And at that point, he was the founder of Vice,

00:25:22.040 someone who had left Vice,

00:25:23.820 and someone who would express certain right-wing sentiments,

00:25:27.720 and was kind of the, you know,

00:25:31.700 hipster, edgy kind of writer

00:25:36.260 that I certainly wanted to attract

00:25:38.060 when I was editing Talkies Magazine.

00:25:42.880 He founded the Proud Boys in 2016,

00:25:46.700 just before the election of Donald Trump.

00:25:48.860 And it was certainly a way of,

00:25:53.720 I guess you could say,

00:25:55.080 it was inspired by the alt-right,

00:25:57.820 but it might have been a way of,

00:26:00.860 you could say, aping it or co-opting it

00:26:03.160 or even stealing its thunder.

00:26:04.780 So, it was a creation of a multiracial group,

00:26:09.060 but one that was pro-West.

00:26:12.860 So, the West is the best,

00:26:15.340 and all the rest is second best.

00:26:19.380 And in the words of Gavin McGinnis,

00:26:21.500 when he wrote to me about this,

00:26:23.300 in an email I read on my last,

00:26:25.220 or two journal entries ago,

00:26:27.660 he said that the West was built by white men.

00:26:32.380 So, you know, we can have a multiracial group,

00:26:35.140 but everyone knows what this is really about.

00:26:39.100 And maybe even implied in that

00:26:41.880 was a notion of the Proud Boys

00:26:45.440 using Hispanics and people of other races

00:26:50.200 as front men,

00:26:52.220 but maybe also as kind of foot soldiers

00:26:54.240 for what is ultimately

00:26:56.560 a white supremacist objective.

00:27:02.220 Gavin started this group

00:27:04.320 in the most comical of circumstances.

00:27:08.780 I mean, the Proud Boys,

00:27:10.760 when I first heard it,

00:27:12.620 I thought it was a gay group, to be honest,

00:27:14.920 but it wasn't,

00:27:16.380 although there were gay members.

00:27:18.000 And it was based off a song from Aladdin,

00:27:21.360 so it was all, you know, a Disney movie.

00:27:23.760 I mean, it was evoking something silly,

00:27:27.200 a song about, you know,

00:27:28.200 proud of your boy or something.

00:27:30.220 I can't remember the tune.

00:27:31.060 And they would,

00:27:34.400 to join,

00:27:35.520 you could be initiated by, like,

00:27:37.420 naming 12 brands of cereal

00:27:39.420 while they're punching you 0.95

00:27:41.100 or just some silly kind of frat-like behavior.

00:27:45.940 So, and it was presented 0.90

00:27:47.820 as a kind of drinking club.

00:27:49.420 But as Gavin McGinnis

00:27:55.060 was being interviewed

00:27:55.880 by Joe Rogan

00:27:57.140 and other people

00:27:58.260 and on his own show,

00:27:59.340 The Gavin McGinnis Show,

00:28:00.420 he made it very clear

00:28:02.080 that he was interested in violence.

00:28:05.420 He made statements

00:28:06.740 that are indefensible,

00:28:10.260 effectively,

00:28:11.980 of if you see someone

00:28:13.620 who looks like Antifa, 1.00

00:28:14.740 go punch him in the face. 1.00

00:28:16.240 Some of us are going to get hurt doing this. 1.00

00:28:17.920 Some of us are going to die,

00:28:19.180 but it's worth it.

00:28:20.900 Even in 2021,

00:28:23.120 I remember seeing, like,

00:28:24.080 a comedy tour

00:28:25.460 of Gavin

00:28:28.080 where he was suggesting,

00:28:29.160 you know,

00:28:29.620 if we all get arrested

00:28:30.960 or we're all

00:28:32.320 canceled from society,

00:28:34.760 then that's good

00:28:36.340 because then we're

00:28:37.300 a real movement.

00:28:40.920 You know,

00:28:42.580 he's encouraging people

00:28:44.500 to be self-destructive,

00:28:45.760 to do things

00:28:46.240 that are obviously illegal

00:28:47.260 to be aggressively violent.

00:28:49.940 Period.

00:28:50.620 End of statement.

00:28:51.340 There's no other way

00:28:52.080 of interpreting his words.

00:28:54.520 He specifically said

00:28:55.720 it was not defensive violence.

00:29:00.100 In 2018,

00:29:01.820 there was a fist fight

00:29:05.640 of some kind

00:29:06.760 in New York

00:29:08.020 and many of the Proud Boys

00:29:09.600 were arrested

00:29:10.280 and it was a

00:29:11.580 major media event,

00:29:13.560 although one that's certainly

00:29:14.400 been forgotten by now.

00:29:16.400 And Gavin decided

00:29:17.760 to step away

00:29:18.700 and he rather

00:29:20.200 implausibly claimed

00:29:21.780 that, you know,

00:29:23.520 people are saying

00:29:24.740 that the Proud Boys

00:29:25.380 are a gang,

00:29:26.240 so if I step away,

00:29:28.340 then it can't be a gang

00:29:29.600 because there's not

00:29:30.080 a leadership.

00:29:30.760 I mean,

00:29:30.920 this seems to almost

00:29:31.680 be the opposite

00:29:32.560 of the truth

00:29:34.900 in the sense

00:29:36.120 that gangs

00:29:36.860 certainly have a leader,

00:29:38.860 a big alpha,

00:29:39.420 but they are notable

00:29:41.900 for being

00:29:42.560 kind of

00:29:43.520 consensual,

00:29:45.380 almost kind of egalitarian.

00:29:46.840 I mean,

00:29:46.960 that's kind of

00:29:47.340 the nature of the gang.

00:29:48.260 It's actually

00:29:48.600 organizations

00:29:49.680 and corporations

00:29:50.540 that have

00:29:51.820 hierarchies

00:29:52.720 and rankings

00:29:53.380 and all that

00:29:54.520 kind of stuff.

00:29:56.020 It was clearly

00:29:57.220 a way for Gavin

00:29:58.380 to get out

00:29:59.800 of legal exposure

00:30:01.220 by leaving

00:30:05.160 the organization.

00:30:06.660 And in his speeches,

00:30:07.660 he would say things like,

00:30:08.640 you know,

00:30:08.940 how can we be called racist?

00:30:10.580 You know,

00:30:10.820 look at this guy

00:30:11.580 who's a proud boy. 0.98

00:30:12.500 He's got a black wife, 0.77

00:30:14.260 something like that. 0.93

00:30:15.700 And shortly after that,

00:30:17.740 Enrique Terrio

00:30:18.860 was promoted.

00:30:22.120 He seems to have,

00:30:24.660 well,

00:30:24.940 I probably shouldn't guess

00:30:26.080 at his heritage,

00:30:26.620 but he seems to have

00:30:27.600 Hispanic

00:30:27.960 and even African heritage.

00:30:31.400 He's not conventionally white.

00:30:33.940 Let's put it that way.

00:30:36.480 As his name implies.

00:30:37.780 Terrio has had

00:30:39.440 a lot of run-ins

00:30:40.340 with the law.

00:30:41.680 He seemed to have been

00:30:42.880 a FBI informant

00:30:44.480 of some kind.

00:30:45.440 This is not involving politics.

00:30:48.200 And the Proud Boys

00:30:49.560 did act

00:30:50.780 as a kind of army

00:30:53.320 in J6.

00:30:57.560 So they were there.

00:31:01.080 They were involved

00:31:02.680 in the planning of it.

00:31:03.780 They were talking

00:31:04.820 about violence.

00:31:06.000 They engaged in violence.

00:31:08.400 They had a distinct purpose,

00:31:10.820 which was to stop

00:31:12.060 the certification

00:31:13.720 of the vote for president

00:31:15.520 in order to keep

00:31:16.560 Donald Trump in power.

00:31:18.520 They were engaged

00:31:20.060 in a seditious conspiracy.

00:31:22.160 Now,

00:31:22.560 it's one that

00:31:23.500 had no chance of working.

00:31:25.480 It's one that was 0.98

00:31:27.180 buffoonish as hell. 0.97

00:31:29.140 All of those things 0.87

00:31:31.140 might very well be true,

00:31:32.400 but it doesn't take away

00:31:33.540 the fact

00:31:34.100 that it was a conspiracy

00:31:35.160 nevertheless.

00:31:38.800 So again,

00:31:39.920 we have this situation

00:31:42.280 of optics.

00:31:45.580 Let's put an Hispanic 1.00

00:31:47.460 in charge

00:31:48.740 as our front man.

00:31:50.540 No one can call us racist now.

00:31:52.280 That doesn't really work.

00:31:53.160 But also something different.

00:32:00.480 The Proud Boys

00:32:01.600 were easy to make fun of,

00:32:03.740 but at the end of the day,

00:32:05.320 they were an army

00:32:07.300 on behalf of some purpose,

00:32:10.120 whether that purpose is Trump,

00:32:11.760 whether that purpose

00:32:12.660 is mass violence,

00:32:14.820 et cetera.

00:32:15.800 And it's just very curious

00:32:17.760 that we have these Hispanics.

00:32:22.360 Hispanics that 1.00

00:32:24.040 are clearly

00:32:26.020 of a certain

00:32:26.760 kind of personality type.

00:32:29.140 They're attracted

00:32:30.740 to outrageous ideologies.

00:32:34.620 They're involved with drugs

00:32:36.320 in the case of Terrio,

00:32:37.820 in crime.

00:32:39.760 They are just outrageous people,

00:32:43.000 and they're leading 0.99

00:32:43.780 these white supremacist armies 0.87

00:32:46.320 that are creating chaos 0.98

00:32:49.260 in the United States.

00:32:52.360 So you might be able

00:32:54.160 to see where I'm going

00:32:55.960 with this one.

00:32:57.860 So what do we make

00:32:59.880 of the fact

00:33:00.700 that Garcia was blogging

00:33:03.620 at a website

00:33:05.080 called OKRU?

00:33:07.420 Now, I had never heard

00:33:10.700 of this website

00:33:11.620 until, you know, yesterday.

00:33:16.560 And the name of the website

00:33:19.220 is OdnoKlasniki.

00:33:23.400 So it's a Russian website.

00:33:27.680 And it just roughly

00:33:29.280 translates to classmates.

00:33:30.840 So it's basically Facebook

00:33:32.980 plus WordPress or something.

00:33:35.960 So why would he be using

00:33:37.960 this kind of site?

00:33:39.260 And it's a non-rhetorical question

00:33:43.920 in the sense that

00:33:44.420 I really don't quite know

00:33:46.240 the answer,

00:33:47.200 but it does lend itself

00:33:49.940 to some conspiratorial thinking

00:33:54.640 in this regard.

00:33:57.260 You know, did you not want to use,

00:33:59.260 I don't know, Tumblr or Facebook

00:34:01.240 or is it WordPress

00:34:03.060 available for free?

00:34:04.300 Why are you using

00:34:05.260 this Russian website

00:34:07.880 that I've never heard of,

00:34:09.540 that no one's ever heard of?

00:34:13.320 Who was in

00:34:14.300 that website with him?

00:34:16.920 Who was in his

00:34:17.920 chat discussions?

00:34:20.060 Who was in his DMs

00:34:21.980 on that website?

00:34:25.420 It's strange that it's Russian, 1.00

00:34:27.300 isn't it?

00:34:30.460 So what I'm suggesting,

00:34:32.920 I don't know

00:34:35.240 if this was

00:34:37.440 a kind of Russian plot.

00:34:39.220 And real quick,

00:34:40.020 we're reminded of

00:34:41.500 these weird little tidbits.

00:34:44.080 Like the Buffalo shooter

00:34:45.160 was in touch

00:34:46.120 with a former FBI agent.

00:34:47.980 What does that mean?

00:34:49.080 What was going on there?

00:34:51.180 Was he being surveilled?

00:34:52.960 Is the FBI agent

00:34:54.280 just a simpatico

00:34:56.480 with his ideology?

00:34:58.640 What's going on there?

00:35:00.520 So what's going on here

00:35:01.720 with this OKRU?

00:35:03.020 You could

00:35:07.040 make the argument

00:35:09.000 that

00:35:10.340 there are

00:35:11.960 forces

00:35:12.700 out there

00:35:13.920 that are able

00:35:15.560 to locate

00:35:16.800 and target

00:35:18.020 people

00:35:19.060 with

00:35:19.780 serious 0.55

00:35:20.820 mental disabilities

00:35:22.720 or

00:35:23.940 a certain

00:35:25.040 personality type,

00:35:26.380 that dark

00:35:26.980 triad type.

00:35:28.640 Those people

00:35:29.860 who are 1.00

00:35:30.620 psychopathic 1.00

00:35:31.720 and 0.68

00:35:32.400 feel entitled

00:35:34.360 and

00:35:36.100 are

00:35:36.940 Machiavellian.

00:35:38.140 They're

00:35:38.360 ready and willing

00:35:40.240 to engage

00:35:41.140 in some sort of violence.

00:35:42.280 Maybe even violence

00:35:43.180 for its own sake

00:35:44.080 because it's fun

00:35:44.900 for them.

00:35:49.540 That

00:35:49.860 there's an ability

00:35:51.260 to locate

00:35:52.000 and target

00:35:52.840 those types of people

00:35:53.920 and

00:35:54.940 then

00:35:55.380 there's

00:35:56.000 an ability

00:35:57.100 to some degree

00:35:58.400 to

00:35:59.240 activate them.

00:36:00.360 you've

00:36:01.800 probably

00:36:02.040 heard

00:36:02.540 the term

00:36:03.100 stochastic

00:36:03.800 terrorism

00:36:04.400 and

00:36:04.700 the way

00:36:05.780 that that

00:36:06.260 is usually

00:36:07.060 used

00:36:08.080 is

00:36:09.360 that

00:36:10.240 Ann Coulter

00:36:11.160 will make

00:36:11.620 some

00:36:11.960 outrageous

00:36:12.680 comment

00:36:13.600 at CPAC

00:36:14.900 like

00:36:15.340 if the Republicans

00:36:16.580 don't

00:36:17.500 shape up

00:36:18.160 we're going

00:36:18.420 to send 0.99

00:36:18.700 the death 1.00

00:36:19.020 squads 1.00

00:36:19.380 after them.

00:36:19.920 99.9%

00:36:24.020 of people

00:36:24.800 hear that

00:36:25.440 either

00:36:27.700 dismiss it

00:36:30.120 think it's

00:36:31.060 hilarious

00:36:31.560 and great

00:36:32.240 or think it's

00:36:32.940 horrible

00:36:33.360 and

00:36:33.860 whatever

00:36:34.980 but they're

00:36:35.580 not going

00:36:35.840 to really

00:36:36.380 do anything

00:36:37.260 but there's

00:36:40.300 that

00:36:40.540 .01%

00:36:42.340 that

00:36:43.460 treats

00:36:44.320 that

00:36:44.840 as a

00:36:45.380 call

00:36:45.720 to arms

00:36:46.460 and

00:36:48.120 will

00:36:49.040 actually

00:36:49.660 engage

00:36:50.220 in kinetic

00:36:50.700 action

00:36:51.160 in the

00:36:51.440 real world

00:36:51.940 so it's

00:36:52.900 a kind

00:36:53.180 of

00:36:53.340 actuarial

00:36:54.600 view

00:36:56.260 of

00:36:56.940 terrorism

00:36:57.760 you're not

00:36:59.340 directly

00:36:59.920 paying

00:37:00.420 someone

00:37:00.820 to do

00:37:01.280 an action

00:37:01.780 you're

00:37:02.080 kind

00:37:02.500 of

00:37:02.700 throwing

00:37:03.680 out

00:37:03.920 a

00:37:04.040 wide

00:37:04.580 net

00:37:04.840 you're

00:37:05.020 kind

00:37:05.140 of

00:37:05.260 crowdsourcing

00:37:06.280 as it

00:37:06.740 were

00:37:06.980 but

00:37:08.160 there's

00:37:08.860 maybe

00:37:09.040 another

00:37:09.480 way

00:37:09.980 of

00:37:10.180 thinking

00:37:10.440 about

00:37:10.740 that

00:37:11.080 and

00:37:13.460 you know

00:37:14.320 yeah

00:37:15.160 Ann Coulter

00:37:15.800 can say

00:37:16.140 right wing

00:37:16.540 death squads

00:37:17.100 or something

00:37:17.480 but

00:37:17.860 you can

00:37:20.060 also

00:37:20.640 really

00:37:21.660 directly

00:37:22.520 and more

00:37:23.460 immediately

00:37:24.060 and more

00:37:24.540 effectively

00:37:25.080 engage

00:37:26.020 people

00:37:26.520 through

00:37:28.080 direct

00:37:29.280 messaging

00:37:29.820 through

00:37:31.780 camaraderie

00:37:34.320 through

00:37:35.680 grooming

00:37:36.460 you could

00:37:37.300 say

00:37:37.800 through

00:37:38.980 that

00:37:39.180 kind

00:37:39.440 of

00:37:39.540 false

00:37:40.040 friendship

00:37:40.620 that

00:37:41.040 we

00:37:41.160 all

00:37:41.320 have

00:37:41.860 online

00:37:42.640 where

00:37:43.380 someone

00:37:43.760 who's

00:37:44.460 our

00:37:44.600 friend

00:37:45.020 who's

00:37:45.480 not

00:37:45.660 really

00:37:45.940 our

00:37:46.140 friend

00:37:46.540 and we

00:37:46.920 don't

00:37:47.160 really

00:37:47.400 know

00:37:47.780 how many

00:37:49.980 accounts

00:37:50.980 have

00:37:52.220 have

00:37:52.240 responded to

00:37:53.940 a tweet

00:37:54.320 of yours

00:37:54.780 and you've

00:37:55.220 responded

00:37:55.620 back

00:37:56.160 and you

00:37:57.820 start to

00:37:58.620 kind of

00:37:59.260 suspect

00:37:59.660 that you're

00:38:00.960 talking with

00:38:01.480 someone from

00:38:01.920 another country

00:38:02.620 or you might

00:38:03.640 very well have

00:38:04.540 just responded

00:38:05.500 to

00:38:06.000 a robot

00:38:06.980 it's not

00:38:09.920 certainly not

00:38:10.580 the majority

00:38:11.220 of times

00:38:11.840 it's pretty

00:38:12.220 fairly rare

00:38:12.960 but it

00:38:13.280 certainly

00:38:13.540 happened

00:38:14.060 you know

00:38:17.140 that there

00:38:17.540 are accounts

00:38:18.100 out there

00:38:18.940 that are

00:38:19.760 effectively

00:38:20.280 bad actors

00:38:21.240 some

00:38:22.740 some of

00:38:23.200 them wear

00:38:23.520 it on

00:38:23.720 their

00:38:23.880 sleeves

00:38:24.200 some of

00:38:24.580 them are

00:38:24.800 clearly

00:38:25.100 operative

00:38:25.620 some of

00:38:26.040 them

00:38:26.340 you don't

00:38:27.200 know who 0.93

00:38:27.460 the hell 0.97

00:38:27.720 they are 0.86

00:38:28.280 it's

00:38:29.440 this

00:38:29.560 interesting

00:38:30.140 book

00:38:31.480 called

00:38:32.680 this is not

00:38:33.200 propaganda

00:38:33.640 that was

00:38:34.920 going through

00:38:35.480 a lot of

00:38:35.880 these accounts

00:38:36.560 actually in

00:38:37.040 other countries

00:38:37.600 outside the

00:38:38.060 US

00:38:38.280 and they

00:38:39.940 would

00:38:40.200 these accounts

00:38:41.100 would crop

00:38:41.660 up

00:38:41.980 they would

00:38:42.320 become

00:38:42.580 obsessed

00:38:43.260 with an

00:38:43.640 issue

00:38:43.960 like let's

00:38:44.680 say a

00:38:45.120 protest

00:38:45.560 in Iran

00:38:46.080 and they

00:38:46.880 tweet a

00:38:47.420 hundred

00:38:47.720 times a

00:38:48.400 day about

00:38:48.800 this issue

00:38:49.340 and then

00:38:50.240 they would

00:38:50.700 go dark

00:38:51.300 and then

00:38:52.120 three months

00:38:52.600 later

00:38:52.960 they would

00:38:53.620 be

00:38:54.040 obsessed

00:38:54.640 about

00:38:54.940 Donald

00:38:55.260 Trump

00:38:55.640 they

00:38:55.900 you know

00:38:56.480 tweet

00:38:56.720 a hundred

00:38:56.980 times a

00:38:57.400 day about

00:38:57.720 him

00:38:57.940 and then

00:38:58.180 they'd

00:38:58.400 go dark

00:38:58.800 for a

00:38:59.100 year

00:38:59.320 and then

00:38:59.960 this account

00:39:00.380 would be

00:39:00.680 revived

00:39:01.040 and it's

00:39:01.380 gaining

00:39:01.620 followers

00:39:02.140 all the

00:39:02.420 while

00:39:02.800 it's

00:39:03.480 affecting

00:39:03.840 people

00:39:04.240 but it's

00:39:04.700 clearly

00:39:05.180 synthetic

00:39:05.780 it's not

00:39:06.500 just some

00:39:07.260 dude in

00:39:08.620 Nebraska

00:39:09.240 tweeting

00:39:10.420 his opinions

00:39:12.000 after work

00:39:12.820 it's

00:39:15.380 operational

00:39:17.140 and

00:39:18.320 targeted

00:39:18.920 and

00:39:21.840 might this

00:39:23.100 be happening

00:39:23.800 on the

00:39:24.900 level

00:39:25.360 of

00:39:26.460 these 1.00

00:39:27.500 psychopaths 1.00

00:39:29.200 that

00:39:29.740 are

00:39:30.260 located

00:39:30.760 located

00:39:30.780 and

00:39:31.000 targeted

00:39:31.360 might

00:39:33.980 someone

00:39:34.600 find

00:39:36.360 a

00:39:37.180 person

00:39:37.480 like

00:39:37.720 Garcia

00:39:38.220 someone

00:39:39.260 who's

00:39:39.580 alienated

00:39:40.520 strange

00:39:42.660 has a

00:39:44.440 pre-existing

00:39:45.120 attraction

00:39:45.780 to right

00:39:46.620 wing

00:39:46.920 ideology

00:39:48.140 and start

00:39:49.960 pushing him

00:39:50.640 start becoming

00:39:51.480 his friend

00:39:52.560 and then

00:39:54.760 might he

00:39:55.980 have been

00:39:56.600 activated

00:39:57.400 on the

00:39:59.480 weekend

00:39:59.880 immediately

00:40:00.420 following

00:40:01.060 the

00:40:01.900 conviction

00:40:02.500 of the

00:40:02.880 Proud Boys

00:40:03.400 I am

00:40:07.440 engaging in

00:40:08.120 speculation

00:40:08.680 but it

00:40:10.440 is informed

00:40:11.280 speculation

00:40:12.020 and to

00:40:14.120 me at least

00:40:14.920 it seems

00:40:15.540 quite

00:40:15.940 plausible

00:40:16.400 more

00:40:19.300 did

00:40:19.900 till

00:40:21.680 you

00:40:24.420 have

00:40:25.300 done

00:40:25.320 you

00:40:27.700 what

00:40:31.000 well

00:40:31.040 in

RadixJournal - May 09, 2023

The Making of a Murderer

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