RadixJournal - The Peterson Pathology

00:00:00.000 hello everyone well i was perusing twitter this morning and lo and behold what a wonderful

00:00:15.800 surprise jordan b peterson the man the most dangerous intellectual in america tweeted at me

00:00:22.120 uh this is what he said he said some facts for at richard b spencer and his followers to consider

00:00:28.160 i guess i should say it in his voice some facts no uh and his followers to consider deeply i hope

00:00:33.360 and then he links to an article which he wrote uh because i'm not already in enough trouble

00:00:38.320 on the jewish question so i think this would be a great opportunity to do another cucksplaining

00:00:45.520 uh so we are gonna uh i'm gonna i'm here with my friend peter and we are going to engage in a close

00:00:53.360 reading of a text from the conservative movement this is a bit of a different one this is not

00:00:59.220 quite from the movement conservatism but uh i we can also talk about the jewish question uh hbd uh

00:01:07.200 iq etc there's a lot of issues with this yes but i would say this just to to give to spoil the whole

00:01:12.920 thing uh just in case no one is going to listen to this long uh uh dissertation uh jordan peterson

00:01:19.520 has weirdly affirmed a great deal of what came to be known as hbd uh that is human biodiversity you

00:01:30.020 could call it race realism if you want uh he has actually affirmed these things in an attempt

00:01:35.760 to dissolve the jewish question so very interesting but let's actually give it a close reading

00:01:42.500 uh so first off let's just start with the title on the so-called quote jewish question

00:01:50.560 in quotes so he scare quotes it and he puts a so-called um first off uh let's just start with

00:01:56.780 the title itself right uh the the idea that this is some you know absurd thing that arose with the

00:02:04.140 alt-right twitter and 4chan in 2015 or something the jewish question has been one of the most central

00:02:10.240 questions for jews and for gentiles literally literally there was an essay by carl marx called

00:02:18.380 the same thing right the jewish question right it was not invented by 4chan uh almost every major

00:02:23.840 thinker and figure has sounded off on the jewish question in some way to some degree of complexity

00:02:30.540 to some degree of bigotry if you want but uh it's a question that all everyone has had to confront

00:02:36.540 um okay the so i'm reading from jordan peterson the players of identity politics on the far right

00:02:43.540 continue ever so pathologically to beat the anti-semitic drum pointing to the over-representation

00:02:51.220 of jews and positions of authority competence and influence including revolutionary movements

00:02:56.180 i'm called upon sometimes publicly sometimes in social media platforms to comment on such matters and

00:03:01.720 criticize when i hesitate to do so um and and get criticized i guess when i hesitate to do so

00:03:07.840 although god only knows why i should hesitate smiley face um i don't know why he's using emoji

00:03:14.440 uh who knows so let's take apart the far rights claims this is a far right fever pitch thing also the

00:03:23.320 ever so pathologically uh that that is funny i i love how some things are pathological but but other

00:03:29.900 things that say conservatives or liberals or whatever obsess about yeah this is a real

00:03:35.140 psychological move isn't it i mean it's it's worth almost he is a trained psychologist yes we should

00:03:40.960 put anyone who talks about the jews and perhaps send them to a therapist first well you know wasn't

00:03:45.340 it wasn't it sigmund freud actually uh this is this this is sort of a deep cut but wasn't it even

00:03:50.140 sigmund freud who said we need carl jung at the forefront of psychoanalysis because he's not a jew

00:03:56.060 well i yes uh also there there's a there's a degree to which the the jews need anti-semitism 0.99

00:04:04.400 you could say pathologically i mean this is one of the things that that kevin mcdonald has talked

00:04:09.460 about i think it's absolutely true uh jews need a sense of hatred in order to uh maintain ethnic 1.00

00:04:17.740 cohesion they they have to be othered uh the whole trajectory of jewish history is not becoming

00:04:25.300 gentiles uh the celebrations of piram hanukkah i could go on are basically celebrations of not

00:04:31.600 being gentile resisting the gentiles of not intermarriage there are many debates uh you know

00:04:38.620 among jews that are that sometimes spill over about the problems of intermarriage probably the most you

00:04:44.540 know the most prominent example was in uh was in woody allen's annie hall where he goes to meet annie's

00:04:51.020 family and like there's there's you know there's a slide and all of a sudden he pictures himself you

00:04:56.760 know in the full beard and orthodox uh wear because he's he feels othered yeah that extent yeah he's

00:05:03.820 taking a shishka as well uh first psychologically speaking why do the reactionary conspiracy theorists

00:05:10.920 even bother this is a straight reactionary yes this is a straightforward matter uh if you're

00:05:17.180 misguided enough to play identity politics whether on the left or the right then you require a victim

00:05:23.100 in the right-wing case european culture or some variant and a perpetrator jews otherwise you can't 0.94

00:05:29.960 play the game a youtube video i made uh explicating the rules can be found here well um so first off

00:05:36.980 i and i'm gonna get to this a little bit further down but i think i'll just say this now um i i don't

00:05:44.380 know what to say to jordan peterson in terms of his criticism of identity politics itself not

00:05:52.900 necessarily just the alt-right or white identitarians uh and then also this they need a victim they need

00:05:59.860 an they they need a uh a villain too i mean i this is all politics is carl schmidt 101 well not even

00:06:08.000 carl schmidt i mean it's it's aristotle i mean we are a i mean and it's it's human nature we human

00:06:14.040 beings are social animals right uh we there is always going to we come together as societies

00:06:21.240 there's an us and a them when he uh when he criticizes uh identity politics all he wants is another

00:06:28.020 identity politics no yeah so he wants a um canadian civic nationalism he's he's almost kind of a

00:06:33.200 vicarious american well i actually in a way uh uh to talk about that canadianness uh for a second

00:06:38.780 uh i actually think he has not read probably the greatest canadian philosopher of uh of the last

00:06:45.700 century which was george justin trudeau no uh george grant um who was a deep nichian and heideggerian

00:06:53.360 thinker um who was also in his mind a christian but who viewed canada as an opposition to the united

00:07:00.880 states yeah and as one who uh when america put its nuclear missiles uh in canada uh lost its

00:07:08.840 sovereignty essentially and that's that's true right on in a very deep way and peterson in his way

00:07:15.360 is just acting as sort of the the good you know the the the good satrap of american liberalism yeah in

00:07:23.740 a lot of ways he's not a tory he's not anything like that yeah he's not noticeable from the canadian

00:07:29.000 tradition but i i would say this actually really really strongly all politics is identity politics

00:07:35.360 there is no politics outside of us versus them or there's no point of politics i i don't know what

00:07:43.140 to say you read you read the iliad it's like the achaeans versus the trojans right but but there's there's

00:07:48.900 no politics is again is is about the the the community making an order um also determining you

00:07:56.960 know territory boundaries us versus them who's in and who's out again the to to denounce identity

00:08:04.200 politics in itself what he's denouncing of course is and you know he can attack the left but it's a

00:08:09.860 denouncing white identity politics which is a kind of you know again white nationalism occurs within

00:08:16.480 the modern american state and it's actually opposed to the general system so he's opposing this and at

00:08:23.460 the end of the day as well um it's it's one thing to go after the left you know low-hanging fruit

00:08:31.480 identity politics of the university of california berkeley yeah we all pretty much see that as as as

00:08:36.640 rather silly but he's now directly attacking the one dissident group in the united states that is

00:08:45.140 roundly attacked has no power yeah that has very little power and and is basically at the at the hands of 0.87

00:08:52.620 silicon valley and the government and so on is actually being suppressed i mean not we're not

00:08:59.040 being thrown into prison although you know you can you know i i'm i'm gonna worry what i train my

00:09:04.400 basset hound uh to do or not yeah yes well yes we are um gregory conti was thrown into prison after

00:09:11.600 doing nothing wrong he's facing charges uh but no we're not being just rounded up uh and summarily

00:09:18.300 executed at this point but the fact is he is attacking the system's own boogeyman and you

00:09:24.840 know that doesn't mean he's right or wrong but it it doesn't mean he's exactly richard you're right

00:09:30.160 look uh all politics is identity politics and actually to call it identity politics is a bad

00:09:36.760 way of thinking because when you think about politics what does it come from it comes from the greek

00:09:41.580 the polis right things of the city that and when when the greek said that they meant the things of a

00:09:46.760 particular people right and they were not talking about an abstraction or even an abstract city but

00:09:52.380 but they were a real blood and soil uh sort of people yes you know was paul was the polis

00:09:59.320 politics is identity it's not identity politics politics is politics right politics is identity

00:10:06.640 politics right identity politics doesn't exist because it is politics right okay um once you determine

00:10:15.260 to play however you benefit in a number of ways oh yes i'm reaping the benefits of uh playing

00:10:21.240 identity politics yeah this is so easy i mean i'm i'm beloved everywhere it's amazing you can claim

00:10:27.160 this is jordan peterson again you can claim responsibility for the accomplishments of your

00:10:31.560 group you feel racially ethnically akin to without actually having to accomplish anything yourself

00:10:37.260 that's convenient you can identify with the hypothetical victimization of that group and feel sorry for

00:10:43.740 yourself and pleased at your compassion simultaneously another unearned victory you can simplify your

00:10:50.220 world thank you ayn rand yeah exactly you can simplify your world radically as well all the problems you

00:10:56.060 face now have a cause and a single one uh okay let me back up um because the lots of straw men here

00:11:02.360 first off i find it rather fascinating that we're hearing all these arguments against the alt-right

00:11:08.940 uh identitarians etc coming from non-anarcho-capitalist and non-radical individualists

00:11:16.220 but who are making anarcho-capitalist randian arguments this is rand i mean she might not have

00:11:23.020 been the first one to say it but she's the most prominent person to make this argument this radical

00:11:27.420 individualism uh that jordan peterson who i don't i don't think is a uh anarcho-capitalist of any kind

00:11:34.060 but is basically calling upon hyper liberalism basically to out he's going to out liberal us

00:11:40.380 by talking this way well first off let me say this um he's making a rather uh glib and convenient

00:11:48.140 argument by by by just uh identifying uh you know say nationalism or a sense of togetherness with just

00:11:56.140 pure resentment so the only people who are and it's only a negative it's never it's never a positive right 0.93

00:12:02.220 so you're a total loser but then you say oh yeah no really i'm mozart because i'm white 0.98

00:12:06.940 not even your most debased 1.0 tattoo wearing skinhead thinks he's mozart because he's white 1.00

00:12:16.620 so i mean this is just a completely stupid straw man on behalf of peterson i mean the fact is one has 0.98

00:12:25.500 pride what one resonates with european history one has pride standing before notre dame cathedral 0.96

00:12:34.780 because one sees it as something to admire but as a challenge as something that my people did

00:12:40.940 this it's a russian of yours yeah it's it's in it's pride is such a and and taking pride in in a

00:12:47.740 collective achievement is just such a natural aspect to all humans the the idea that we would 0.99

00:12:55.100 demean this is just it's it's simply stupid it's anti-human and it's just radically out of touch 0.99

00:13:03.900 it's the it's the kind of thing you would expect from an autistic randian and and if you were to take 1.00

00:13:08.940 peterson's argument to its full expression it's to say you shouldn't be proud of your family right

00:13:15.660 you know if you were born that's the that's the full expression that ran took it to no no yeah and it's

00:13:20.540 true because look you think about it when you're a baby i hate this is going into real libertarian

00:13:26.060 autism but it's true right when you go into it it's like when you're a baby your individuality

00:13:32.540 is evolving as you as you grow older uh you know it's you you go from you go from you know walking

00:13:40.380 and and having slight consciousness to having a full consciousness right but that's all in the

00:13:46.300 context of you having been born in the family and as aristotle said being born a social creature

00:13:52.620 right because you know as aristotle said man alone is either a beast or a god and uh i don't think

00:13:59.020 peterson uh is imploring us to be gods no it's completely insane and then the other thing is that

00:14:05.820 yeah it's it's you you should ask jordan peterson are you proud of your own son's achievements but then

00:14:12.860 also or your grandfather's achievements and then also you could ask are you proud of canada's

00:14:18.060 achievements are you proud of america's achievements as a as a you know this kind of vicarious american

00:14:22.940 which he's become of course he is i can't believe are you proud of western civilization right which

00:14:28.780 again they they again for them the the heritage of western civilization is in radical individualism

00:14:35.100 and atomization to the point that you cannot be proud of european you know right this shows the

00:14:41.900 seas of the left's own critique of western civilization right actually like they're actually

00:14:47.100 giving our enemy they're giving the enemies of the west a lot of credit in this sense like they're 0.55

00:14:52.540 they're they're they're allowing them the ammunition to defeat them they agree with their basic

00:14:57.580 assumptions yes uh anyway um another unearned victory um all the problems you face now have a cause and a

00:15:07.020 single one so you can dispense with the unpleasant difficulty of thinking things through in detail

00:15:12.860 bonus furthermore and most reprehensibly these are all in italics much like rod dreher he overuses

00:15:19.020 italics ray yes you now have someone to hate and what's worse with a good conscience so you can

00:15:25.500 un so your unrecognized resentment and cowardly and incompetent failure to deal with the world forthrightly 0.69

00:15:31.260 can find a target and you can feel morally superior in your consequent persecution see germany nazis for

00:15:37.900 further evidence and information oh good the historical reference to the nazis right well one

00:15:43.420 i would say well well jordan uh well dr peterson why why did you object to the transsexuals on your

00:15:52.140 campus why like why why make it a big issue and he actually does he claims that he doesn't object to

00:15:57.660 them he claims that he objects to the totalitarian bureaucracy forcing him to speak to them with

00:16:04.220 their chosen pronouns so he's he's kind of having his cake and eating it too everyone was so excited

00:16:10.540 about that like sick burn of you know a bbc reporter or whomever it was and i was like i i don't i wasn't

00:16:18.700 terribly impressed by it first off it's easy but but secondly he's not even making a radical in the

00:16:26.220 proper sense of the word rooted claim for no you have a sex you were born with a sex you are a man 0.99

00:16:32.700 you are a woman whether you like it or not i'm not going to call you she when you have a penis uh he 1.00

00:16:38.380 didn't make that claim he's making this you know weak limp conservative well the the government shouldn't 1.00

00:16:45.660 force me to call you who cares what the government's telling you to do the question is whether it's right

00:16:51.820 or not and you know i i don't know i it's just all this stuff uh the other thing just this straw man

00:16:58.140 argument a of we have one single enemy uh you know sure i there are some people who who engage in

00:17:06.220 conspiracy thinking and in the worst sense of that that term and and just think that uh oh yeah everything

00:17:12.620 would be right with the world were it not for jews jews called male powder and baldness but that again 0.99

00:17:18.300 sure you you might be able to find like two people like that but it's just a stupid straw man 0.99

00:17:23.580 you know the whole point of my i mean i i'm just speaking from my perspective but i i could say this 0.89

00:17:29.020 from anyone most everyone who's a a leader in the alt-right the whole point is that we're opening up

00:17:35.500 discourse to this world of thinking racially uh acts asking the jewish question as opposed to avoiding

00:17:43.260 it the idea that we are diminishing discourse is absolutely insane we are living in a thought

00:17:50.220 prison and we are widening discourse and people like jordan peterson now is coming out and being

00:17:55.820 like you can't talk about that because you're just saying that because you can't clean up your own room

00:18:00.940 it's like dude this is so like it's this is not serious and addressing um the the jewish question

00:18:09.980 and what is the alt-right also the the deeper the deeper point uh that i would make is that you know

00:18:16.060 people like peterson and others you want to say oh your identity politics you're just like the left

00:18:22.860 that's actually not true right uh one because what we do uh attacks the very the superstructure

00:18:31.900 of of multiculturalism because you know when you think of multiculturalism it is basically like a

00:18:36.780 saint catherine's wheel right the spoke of which is hatred of white people hatred of western

00:18:42.940 civilization hatred of european achievement so if you embrace that you don't become if you embrace

00:18:49.900 that you can be part of it so yes the the the the generic left will accept uh to to a degree you know

00:18:58.140 black nationalism certainly blm because it's part of that collective that the core of which is anti-white

00:19:05.180 uh you know white uh white consciousness no so yeah and yeah no this is again you so everything

00:19:15.580 is the opposite of what they say people like peterson and other classical liberals are actually just

00:19:21.660 another side of the leftist uh liberal hegemonic discourse in the world they're not they're not

00:19:28.220 challenging it like we are exactly they're they're part of the collective because they're they are

00:19:32.860 undermining uh white identity and and but they're doing it in the name of western civilization

00:19:40.940 anyway second okay then we're back to peterson second in what manner if any are such claims true

00:19:46.220 well jews are genuinely over-represented in positions of authority competence and influence

00:19:52.700 he went there new york jews in particular snap up a disproportionate number of nobel prizes 0.62

00:19:58.140 and jews are disproportionately eligible for admission at elite universities we're going to go 0.99

00:20:03.500 into that uh where they along with asians tend to be discriminated against uh no uh but

00:20:10.620 well asians yes asians yes uh jews know it's possible that we should be happy about this

00:20:16.700 rather than annoyed is the fact that smart people are working hard for a mutual advancement really

00:20:21.900 something to feel upset about i guess is what what exactly is the preferable alternative in any case

00:20:28.300 the radical identity politics right-wingers regards such accomplishment as evidence of a conspiracy

00:20:34.060 it hardly needs to be said that although conspiracies do occasionally occur conspiracy theories are the

00:20:39.100 lowest form of intellectual enterprise is there another more credible explanation yes okay um let's uh

00:20:47.100 okay let's before we go into the university question at which uh at these universities jews are

00:20:53.100 discriminated against i'm not so sure about that first off let's actually uh discuss this first point

00:20:59.820 which is that um he acknowledges that jews are over-represented first off that in itself is actually

00:21:06.220 a dangerous claim yes if you if you say they're over-represented at cnn you're an antisemite why are you

00:21:12.380 noticing this what's wrong with you what pathology i believe steve sailor talked about this like

00:21:16.940 why would you the the the sin of noticing yes the sin of noticing exactly and so first off that is

00:21:23.660 in itself politically incorrect and secondly he's admitting and he'll go to this in this next subsection

00:21:29.020 um of a higher than average uh ashkenazi iq so he is basically admitting to hbd or race realism you can

00:21:37.420 say so here we go um the significantly higher than average iq of ashkenazi jews uh um see this article in

00:21:46.220 the economist blah blah blah um and he he actually links to gregory cochran which is great uh consider

00:21:52.060 the consider that iq is the most powerful single determinant of long-term socioeconomic success

00:21:58.620 okay uh i mean i guess i should praise him here um he is going he's he's become he's going

00:22:05.020 steve sailor uh he is already doing things he's not doing the full sailor no not the full sailor but a

00:22:11.100 half sailor he is he is like that was a beautiful half sailor she landed it perfectly she's up for the

00:22:17.740 bronze this year yes he's pulled off the half sailor uh consider also that the effect of a mean

00:22:23.500 uh or average difference in iq is dramatically increased at the tails of the distribution

00:22:28.860 so that a 10 to 15 point difference produces increasingly large inequalities in group representation

00:22:34.780 in proportion to the degree that a given job requires higher general cognitive ability yeah there's

00:22:40.140 tails of the bell curve in a way more important it's it's actually interesting when we think about

00:22:45.020 east asians or women they they have a narrower bell curve so men have a broader bell curve in the 0.99

00:22:52.300 sense that men will disproportionately make up say the homeless the lunatics the total imbeciles the so 0.99

00:22:59.020 on men overwhelmingly make up the great geniuses the great artists the great leaders the great 0.97

00:23:05.820 politicians the great businessmen actually i i this is a funny moment but you know most people don't

00:23:11.660 think of it men also make up the great chefs yes actually even though no no no literally when most

00:23:17.740 people think think of their think think like you know women women are some of the best cooks but 1.00

00:23:22.700 actually when you look at it some of the best chefs in the world it's a it's a male-dominated profession

00:23:27.740 right also simply put if a very complex job or role requires an iq of 145 that's a very high

00:23:33.580 iq three standard deviations above the mean and characteristic of less than one percent of the

00:23:38.060 general population we're talking like philosophy professors and and high level software engineers

00:23:43.660 then a group with a higher average iq will be exceptionally overrepresented in such enterprises

00:23:48.540 okay i don't really disagree with anything from that paragraph and i would praise jordan peterson

00:23:54.060 for saying these things uh it is interesting to remember um just on a when you write the same

00:24:00.220 things you're i'm evil yeah or or jared taylor certainly this has been uh you know this sounds

00:24:05.260 a lot like sailor it's kind of a half sailor a half taylor you know it's uh and so on um you know i i

00:24:11.740 would say that one interesting thing about this is that jews it's not just iq jews are um they're

00:24:18.300 kind of asymmetrical in a way that that gentile whites are not uh jews excel at verbal intelligence uh 0.68

00:24:26.220 they uh fail uh often at visual intelligence uh or mathematics uh the um on average of course uh

00:24:33.740 uh uh uh uh asians are actually the exact opposite um asians do not excel verbally uh in terms of 1.00

00:24:40.620 spatial intelligence they will actually excel quite a bit um and you can even see this in art uh semitic

00:24:47.260 art in general is non-representational it is decorative uh it does not possess that um truly european

00:24:56.140 quality and you know so is jordan peterson's art by the way which which is awful right but but you

00:25:01.020 know sorry to do to bring in to bring in some of the uh work of kevin mcdonald actually briefly it

00:25:08.620 there's also amongst jews uh amongst you know the jewish people there's a higher amount of social

00:25:16.300 cohesion no question there is amongst whites and this has an evolutionary explanation part of this is

00:25:23.340 that when we as europe when our ancestors uh you know moved into europe uh moved into actually

00:25:30.700 you can even microscope this like look at look at greece for instance when when when the achaeans

00:25:37.260 or mycenaeans moved in there the you know there were such tall mountain ranges it was it was a breeding

00:25:43.660 ground for individualism in a way right it was a breeding ground for for very tribalistic notions but

00:25:50.300 that you know understood each other as having their own and competing against someone else but in a

00:25:57.260 way that wasn't the same way for like uh you know yangtze river chinese civilization right or you know

00:26:04.220 mohenjo daro or other places in uh recent recent evolution when you when you think of the jews that

00:26:11.740 experienced on on a collective evolutionary level the middle ages experience the ghetto experience um 0.85

00:26:18.940 um particular occupations that were actually even the romans who yeah who crushed them uh twice

00:26:26.220 uh but yeah it's uh it's a different a certain type of jew uh evolved in the sense of jews that were

00:26:35.100 able to survive these you know we we are a foreign body within another culture a certain type of jew is

00:26:41.500 going to survive that what is one of the greatest jewish stories the babylonian captivity right of course you

00:26:47.100 know when they when they when they were removed to uh to babylon under the uh under the second

00:26:52.700 babylonian empire i believe it was right and uh you know were later freed by the persians yeah uh but

00:26:59.020 again this this goes to talk about a level of group cohesion that actually we don't see in our own

00:27:05.340 people for better or for worse we certainly don't see it in the alt-right um okay let's do this let's go

00:27:10.780 back a little bit because he goes on to this openness to experience we'll get back to it but first off i i need

00:27:16.220 to address this idea that which is that you know uh why are there so many jews at harvard well it's it's

00:27:23.980 it's no secret they're all smart okay this is actually not true and you know jordan peterson just

00:27:31.660 doesn't want to actually go from you know one more level down uh in terms of his analysis uh the fact

00:27:39.340 is jews are and this was proven in a remarkable essay called the myth of american merit meritocracy

00:27:46.380 by ron unz who is jewish who happens to be jewish uh but he's actually been very critical of zionism

00:27:52.700 american foreign policy and and jews in america but the fact is i mean the again this is these facts that

00:27:59.420 unz is bringing up really can't be disputed uh the fact is jews are even taking into account the higher than

00:28:07.340 average or higher than average white iq of ashkenazi uh they are uh over represented at the elite

00:28:14.780 institution let's compare them to asians right and what unz does yeah uh yeah let me just read some uh 0.79

00:28:21.980 money quotes here uh from uh from the unz article the jewish levels for yale and columbia were also at

00:28:29.340 25 percent while white gentiles that is uh were at 22 percent uh so you'll often see these statistics

00:28:36.540 of of whites making up half the college or 45 percent of these the upper level places ivy's

00:28:42.460 stanford duke you know some other ones thrown in there you chicago the places also these places

00:28:48.380 matter more and not that there aren't other good colleges but it's it's these are the people who are

00:28:52.780 going to staff the bureaucracies they're going to staff the law firms they're going to be you know

00:28:56.300 the the staff cnn and so on uh yeah so they're making up white gentiles are effectively making 0.99

00:29:02.700 up 25 percent of these bodies they they are we are radically underrepresented and jews are making up 25

00:29:09.740 percent uh whereas the the average america the african-american is brought usually to somewhere

00:29:15.340 around their demographic level in the country at 12 percent um in fact this is unspeaking if we

00:29:21.660 aggregate the reported enrollment figures we discover that four percent of all college-age

00:29:26.220 american jews are currently enrolled in the ivy league four percent of college-age jews are in

00:29:32.540 the ivy league compared to just one percent of asians and about point one percent of whites of christian

00:29:38.620 background um now here it goes but suppose these estimates are correct these uh estimates in terms of

00:29:45.020 uh uh average iq of asians which is around the 106 i believe uh average ashkenazi iq is 115 again they 0.52

00:29:53.820 have different profiles within that but if we assume these estimates and asians are overall indeed

00:29:58.380 twice as likely as jews to rank among america's highest performing students i'll read that again

00:30:04.140 asians are twice as likely as jews to rank among america's highest performing students we must also

00:30:09.740 consider that america's asian population is far larger in size representing roughly five percent

00:30:15.980 of college-age students compared to just 1.8 percent for jews therefore assuming an admission

00:30:22.540 system based on strict the strictest objective meritocracy we would expect our elite academic

00:30:28.700 institutions to contain nearly five asians for every jew but instead the jews are far more numerous

00:30:35.740 in some important cases by almost a factor of two so asians are outnumbered by jews but yet um but

00:30:44.220 yet they should be outnumbering jews i mean it's it's clearly this raises this is unspeaking this

00:30:49.500 raises obvious suspicions about the fairness of the ivy league admission process so what else is this

00:30:55.500 besides you get one hand structural racism on the behalf of jews and or ethnic nepotism on behalf of

00:31:02.460 admissions officers what else is it because it's not what jordan peterson is arguing which is well

00:31:08.700 of course they're in the ivy league because they're so damn smart it's not that actually asians are 1.00

00:31:13.820 pretty radically underrepresented if we're going pure merit merit meritocracy and jews are over 1.00

00:31:18.700 represented so jordan's just miss dr peterson is just simply wrong he's selective he's selective

00:31:26.460 with hbd facts yes like he he wants to say that yes um you know jews have a high iq and of course

00:31:34.460 that's why they're smart but he wants to ignore the facts which are that uh which you know which are the

00:31:39.580 ethnic nepotism and other facts that ron uns brings up he wants to ignore those facts and focus on others

00:31:47.180 right openness to experience is one of the five cardinal personality traits wikipedia will fill you

00:31:52.700 blah blah openness to experience often has been considered the reflection of general cognitive

00:31:57.900 ability or intelligence and personality it's what you are referring to when you describe someone as

00:32:03.020 thoughtful smart artistic or philosophical people with high cues tend overwhelmingly to be higher in

00:32:08.780 trait openness to experience um okay i don't fully disagree with that uh however i i think this is

00:32:18.060 this is kind of this is kind of getting at so look all this is is a is a higher iq attempt to say

00:32:26.780 that people who believe in uh racialism are dumb right and and that's actually not true for a variety

00:32:34.140 well i can it's i can see it kind of being being being true and untrue in the sense that like your your 0.95

00:32:41.420 average your your average normie let's say someone of a middling iq uh what do they really seek in life

00:32:49.100 they they seek companionship they seek security uh they they they seek some some fun throw in thrown

00:32:55.980 into the fact that their lives are are structured and and and and they seek repetitive from their peers

00:33:02.140 yeah and recognition from their peers and you know it is a lot of you could say middle class normie people

00:33:07.340 who they don't want a bunch of refugees coming into their idaho town they they they fear illegal 0.98

00:33:13.180 immigration because again it's a it's a disruptive force uh for their lives uh and so you you could 1.00

00:33:19.260 say okay they're they're racist in that sense but again what we're dealing with with the rise of the

00:33:24.860 alt-right is that to a very large degree it is a kind of it is an angst over demographic change and

00:33:29.900 american change no question but also in terms of the intellectual leaders of the alt-right it it

00:33:36.060 actually it it's not based on just bigotry i would say that you know when you're thinking

00:33:41.820 about major figures we're all cognitively open and philosophical we're open to these bigger ideas

00:33:47.820 this gets at jordan peterson's fundamental problem with this is that all like at before we even think

00:33:54.620 about the argument he's basically trying to close off debate with one blog entry you know this is

00:34:00.300 something i was thinking about actually earlier today richard which is that you know for so

00:34:05.900 many people in the modern in the modern world the personal is political and by that what i mean

00:34:12.940 is what's the most common argument you hear against being an alt-right or whatever it's like

00:34:18.300 well you know didn't you meet a nice black person or didn't you meet you know or were you mugged

00:34:24.940 and therefore this is a pathological response no no but deeper in a deeper didn't you it's like richard

00:34:30.220 both of us have met you know minorities or whoever that we get along with sure just fine but what

00:34:37.820 we in the alt-right it's it's it's actually the opposite of that it's it's the fact that it's a

00:34:43.500 tragedy that our people are being replaced on the macro level right it's the fact that politics is

00:34:49.740 happening above us you know the liberal wants to take the politics to be part of the personal

00:34:57.580 because that is how it operates it is ultimately an individualistic notion which understands itself

00:35:04.860 within only the individual experience which is like oh i met this person they must be fine it's

00:35:11.980 whatever i can't i can't conceive yeah of being anything beyond that but we in the alt-right realize that

00:35:18.380 look that very well may be true like we can go out here and in lovely you know swiple alexandria

00:35:25.580 yeah and meet a lot of nice people actually you can meet a lot of talented 10th people uh talented

00:35:30.940 10th african americans or you know indians or whatever but that's not the issue the issue is

00:35:36.780 the fact that our people are dying and our people are being replaced on the macro level and we have

00:35:42.380 empathy like we are again you know they they say we're making the personal political it's actually

00:35:48.940 the opposite we are actually disregarding the personal in a way to talk about the ultimate the

00:35:55.420 ultimate day right but then at the same time we have empathy for our people i mean very very few well i

00:36:02.540 shouldn't say that actually there there is a kind of version of the alt-right that is autistically

00:36:08.620 focused on iq and data and and you could actually criticize them for being mean-spirited and in the 0.94

00:36:14.300 sense of oh look at how dumb these blacks are look at all this crime and so on but if you really 0.99

00:36:20.380 are an identitarian it fundamentally means that you have a a great capacity for empathy you care not 0.99

00:36:29.180 only about say you know talking about the big ideas or talking about kevin mcdonald but you care

00:36:34.220 about the person suffering from the opioid crisis right and if you can't do both and look some

00:36:40.220 people are better than things that others i'm more on the let's talk about ideas and obviously uh we're

00:36:45.260 doing this podcast other people are more on the let's talk about the opioid crisis i am and sure but

00:36:50.780 there's divisional labor but if you're not if you don't have both in your soul then you're really not

00:36:55.660 going to be a part of this and no i mean and you know that that that is my uh larger point there which

00:37:01.100 is that these people a lot of these people peterson here is doing a very uh horrible thing where it's

00:37:06.940 like oh you know you can't meet like a smart whoever that's not the point yeah the point of the fact

00:37:13.420 is we realize the macro demographic change changes going on right in our world and we seek to confront

00:37:20.460 them right so anyway let's go back to peterson's essay so this is part c i'm reading from peterson

00:37:26.060 the relationship between openness to experience and political liberalism political affiliation

00:37:31.020 is importantly associated with personality conservatives right-wingers tend to be high

00:37:35.500 in conscientiousness particularly in the conscientiousness aspect of orderliness room

00:37:40.860 cleaning i guess and low in openness to experience while liberals left-wingers tend to have the reverse

00:37:46.380 pattern and high openness to experience the story is somewhat more complicated so basically he's

00:37:51.900 saying that because jews are so smart they're going to inherently uh be liberal i think this is also

00:37:58.300 there's probably some truth to this but this is also i i think radically naive jews are not simply uh

00:38:06.460 over represented among liberals they're over represented among the left there is no question even

00:38:12.700 critics of kevin mcdonald don't actually question this they are over represented on the radical left they

00:38:17.340 are over represented on things like pornography they are over represented in the mass media they are

00:38:22.540 over represented in basically the culture industry the creation of of ideology and thought processes

00:38:30.460 in contemporary america then the facts i'm actually not sitting here as some you know debased resentful

00:38:36.860 guy being like oh god you know my life sucks because of these guys you know these these are facts these

00:38:42.300 are simply facts and you have to uh you have to explain why they are so interested in getting 0.80

00:38:49.420 control in in being part of the infrastructure of the organs of culture and mass media and and and

00:38:57.020 thought construction and the left in general jews are radically over represented behind the scenes in

00:39:03.500 the civil rights movement their story is not only not always told by hollywood interestingly they're

00:39:08.700 over represented in hollywood why are they like even taking into account higher verbal intelligence why

00:39:14.860 are they so interested in this and how are they able to gain these this kind of foothold in these all

00:39:21.580 powerful institutions if it is not institutional racism on behalf of jews or ethnic nepotism yeah and

00:39:29.980 the one thing i would add to that richard is that i believe dr peterson is engaging um of course i should

00:39:36.380 preface this by saying you know i'm i'm more of a i'm more open to anti-enlightenment thought

00:39:41.420 than maybe you are richard but i do think dr peterson is engaging in a certain scientistic

00:39:47.580 and when i say scientistic i don't mean scientific scientism is a term right used uh use used to mean to use

00:39:55.580 the trappings of science to overlay things that are actually not scientific right uh when when you say

00:40:02.220 that of course jews are more liberal because they have higher iq you're using in a way the trappings 0.94

00:40:08.140 of very true uh science as it relates to iq and other such things to explain some to explain something

00:40:15.340 where there is actually no correlation you're you're you're pretending to say here here here's the facts

00:40:22.780 ma'am to quote uh whatever but you're saying here's the facts but that's actually that those actually

00:40:30.220 aren't the facts you're using it to spin a narrative you're using it in a very scientistic

00:40:35.340 uh right uh but it's not accurate at all you're you're you're using a false sense of science yeah to

00:40:42.380 shore up uh to shore up an argument against what you think what is true actually all right let's bring

00:40:48.380 it to a close here so what's the story no conspiracy get it no conspiracy in bold he's kind of getting

00:40:56.220 kind of authoritative i've never i've never written anything like that using bold just to basically

00:41:02.620 hammer uh things this reminds me of dreyer yeah um uh jewish people are overrepresented in positions

00:41:09.580 of competence and authority because as a group they have a higher mean iq again that is a not a pc

00:41:16.060 statement but uh again he's what the point is is that he's really missing the larger point the effect of

00:41:21.820 this group difference approximately difference between the typical high school student and the

00:41:25.340 typical state college student um is magnified for occupations interests that require high general

00:41:31.180 cognitive ability equal overrepresentation may also occur in political movements associated with

00:41:36.220 the left because high q is associated with openness to experience okay we already went into this stuff

00:41:41.340 there is no evidence whatsoever that ashkenazi jews are overrepresented in any occupation's interest

00:41:46.860 for reasons other than intelligence and the associated effects of intelligence on personality

00:41:51.820 and political belief thus this is in bold no conspiratorial claims based on ethic identity need

00:41:57.020 to be given credence at all btfo yes no uh this again he is let's also just keep in mind that this is

00:42:05.740 an attempt to shut down discourse like no conspiracy in bold no you know and again while while he does so

00:42:11.740 he's he's giving off these glimmers of truth actually which is which is interesting like this is what's

00:42:17.020 interesting about this piece to sum up is that he okay this person is far more uh uh influential than

00:42:27.500 than you or i are right now the he's you know again i've had my big media blast which are you know kind

00:42:34.700 of uh you know we're big and go up and down and you know so on uh but right now he has been on like a

00:42:40.700 six-month media blast he has been everywhere his views he gets tons of views on youtube uh his

00:42:47.100 book is is in barnes and noble colleges without antifa well that's not actually true to his credit

00:42:52.940 he was he was attacked by antifa but he's invited to colleges he's invited but i'm saying he can do

00:42:57.580 more successful college talks no question i mean he is no question winning right now and whatever we

00:43:03.260 want to say about this article you know he is missing a tremendous amount he is conceding a tremendous

00:43:09.900 amount which is interesting and i don't quite know how that is going to play out no uh without a doubt

00:43:17.740 and you know the the the only thing i will say there richard is that despite the fact that he's

00:43:25.100 conceding these things we we should keep in mind what the facts are the facts are actually on the side of

00:43:31.580 the alt-right uh you know when you're talking about jewish privilege uh you know it's not as if we're 0.91

00:43:38.780 some some sort of knuckle-dragging lunatics that are like yeah jews cause male pattern baldness right 1.00

00:43:46.220 something we're noticing a trend and we're noticing a fact that is very real and it's been real uh you 0.92

00:43:52.860 know throughout the history of western civilization and that is really all we're arguing not uh not an it has

00:43:59.500 nothing to do with national socialism or anything like that right and we're doing it with real

00:44:05.340 empathy for people who are suffering which apparently jordan peterson lacks

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RadixJournal - March 25, 2018

The Peterson Pathology

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