The Peterson Pathology
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The jewish question has been one of the most central questions for jews and gentiles. It is a question that all have had to confront, and all have been called upon to confront the question that has been
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hello everyone well i was perusing twitter this morning and lo and behold what a wonderful
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surprise jordan b peterson the man the most dangerous intellectual in america tweeted at me
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uh this is what he said he said some facts for at richard b spencer and his followers to consider
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i guess i should say it in his voice some facts no uh and his followers to consider deeply i hope
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and then he links to an article which he wrote uh because i'm not already in enough trouble
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on the jewish question so i think this would be a great opportunity to do another cucksplaining
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uh so we are gonna uh i'm gonna i'm here with my friend peter and we are going to engage in a close
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reading of a text from the conservative movement this is a bit of a different one this is not
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quite from the movement conservatism but uh i we can also talk about the jewish question uh hbd uh
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iq etc there's a lot of issues with this yes but i would say this just to to give to spoil the whole
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thing uh just in case no one is going to listen to this long uh uh dissertation uh jordan peterson
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has weirdly affirmed a great deal of what came to be known as hbd uh that is human biodiversity you
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could call it race realism if you want uh he has actually affirmed these things in an attempt
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to dissolve the jewish question so very interesting but let's actually give it a close reading
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uh so first off let's just start with the title on the so-called quote jewish question
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in quotes so he scare quotes it and he puts a so-called um first off uh let's just start with
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the title itself right uh the the idea that this is some you know absurd thing that arose with the
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alt-right twitter and 4chan in 2015 or something the jewish question has been one of the most central
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questions for jews and for gentiles literally literally there was an essay by carl marx called
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the same thing right the jewish question right it was not invented by 4chan uh almost every major
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thinker and figure has sounded off on the jewish question in some way to some degree of complexity
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to some degree of bigotry if you want but uh it's a question that all everyone has had to confront
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um okay the so i'm reading from jordan peterson the players of identity politics on the far right
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continue ever so pathologically to beat the anti-semitic drum pointing to the over-representation
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of jews and positions of authority competence and influence including revolutionary movements
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i'm called upon sometimes publicly sometimes in social media platforms to comment on such matters and
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criticize when i hesitate to do so um and and get criticized i guess when i hesitate to do so
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although god only knows why i should hesitate smiley face um i don't know why he's using emoji
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uh who knows so let's take apart the far rights claims this is a far right fever pitch thing also the
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ever so pathologically uh that that is funny i i love how some things are pathological but but other
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things that say conservatives or liberals or whatever obsess about yeah this is a real
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psychological move isn't it i mean it's it's worth almost he is a trained psychologist yes we should
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put anyone who talks about the jews and perhaps send them to a therapist first well you know wasn't
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it wasn't it sigmund freud actually uh this is this this is sort of a deep cut but wasn't it even
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sigmund freud who said we need carl jung at the forefront of psychoanalysis because he's not a jew
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well i yes uh also there there's a there's a degree to which the the jews need anti-semitism
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you could say pathologically i mean this is one of the things that that kevin mcdonald has talked
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about i think it's absolutely true uh jews need a sense of hatred in order to uh maintain ethnic
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cohesion they they have to be othered uh the whole trajectory of jewish history is not becoming
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gentiles uh the celebrations of piram hanukkah i could go on are basically celebrations of not
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being gentile resisting the gentiles of not intermarriage there are many debates uh you know
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among jews that are that sometimes spill over about the problems of intermarriage probably the most you
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know the most prominent example was in uh was in woody allen's annie hall where he goes to meet annie's
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family and like there's there's you know there's a slide and all of a sudden he pictures himself you
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know in the full beard and orthodox uh wear because he's he feels othered yeah that extent yeah he's
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taking a shishka as well uh first psychologically speaking why do the reactionary conspiracy theorists
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even bother this is a straight reactionary yes this is a straightforward matter uh if you're
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misguided enough to play identity politics whether on the left or the right then you require a victim
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in the right-wing case european culture or some variant and a perpetrator jews otherwise you can't
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play the game a youtube video i made uh explicating the rules can be found here well um so first off
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i and i'm gonna get to this a little bit further down but i think i'll just say this now um i i don't
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know what to say to jordan peterson in terms of his criticism of identity politics itself not
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necessarily just the alt-right or white identitarians uh and then also this they need a victim they need
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an they they need a uh a villain too i mean i this is all politics is carl schmidt 101 well not even
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carl schmidt i mean it's it's aristotle i mean we are a i mean and it's it's human nature we human
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beings are social animals right uh we there is always going to we come together as societies
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there's an us and a them when he uh when he criticizes uh identity politics all he wants is another
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identity politics no yeah so he wants a um canadian civic nationalism he's he's almost kind of a
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vicarious american well i actually in a way uh uh to talk about that canadianness uh for a second
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uh i actually think he has not read probably the greatest canadian philosopher of uh of the last
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century which was george justin trudeau no uh george grant um who was a deep nichian and heideggerian
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thinker um who was also in his mind a christian but who viewed canada as an opposition to the united
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states yeah and as one who uh when america put its nuclear missiles uh in canada uh lost its
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sovereignty essentially and that's that's true right on in a very deep way and peterson in his way
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is just acting as sort of the the good you know the the the good satrap of american liberalism yeah in
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a lot of ways he's not a tory he's not anything like that yeah he's not noticeable from the canadian
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tradition but i i would say this actually really really strongly all politics is identity politics
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there is no politics outside of us versus them or there's no point of politics i i don't know what
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to say you read you read the iliad it's like the achaeans versus the trojans right but but there's there's
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no politics is again is is about the the the community making an order um also determining you
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know territory boundaries us versus them who's in and who's out again the to to denounce identity
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politics in itself what he's denouncing of course is and you know he can attack the left but it's a
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denouncing white identity politics which is a kind of you know again white nationalism occurs within
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the modern american state and it's actually opposed to the general system so he's opposing this and at
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the end of the day as well um it's it's one thing to go after the left you know low-hanging fruit
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identity politics of the university of california berkeley yeah we all pretty much see that as as as
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rather silly but he's now directly attacking the one dissident group in the united states that is
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roundly attacked has no power yeah that has very little power and and is basically at the at the hands of
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silicon valley and the government and so on is actually being suppressed i mean not we're not
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being thrown into prison although you know you can you know i i'm i'm gonna worry what i train my
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basset hound uh to do or not yeah yes well yes we are um gregory conti was thrown into prison after
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doing nothing wrong he's facing charges uh but no we're not being just rounded up uh and summarily
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executed at this point but the fact is he is attacking the system's own boogeyman and you
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know that doesn't mean he's right or wrong but it it doesn't mean he's exactly richard you're right
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look uh all politics is identity politics and actually to call it identity politics is a bad
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way of thinking because when you think about politics what does it come from it comes from the greek
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the polis right things of the city that and when when the greek said that they meant the things of a
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particular people right and they were not talking about an abstraction or even an abstract city but
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but they were a real blood and soil uh sort of people yes you know was paul was the polis
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politics is identity it's not identity politics politics is politics right politics is identity
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politics right identity politics doesn't exist because it is politics right okay um once you determine
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to play however you benefit in a number of ways oh yes i'm reaping the benefits of uh playing
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identity politics yeah this is so easy i mean i'm i'm beloved everywhere it's amazing you can claim
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this is jordan peterson again you can claim responsibility for the accomplishments of your
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group you feel racially ethnically akin to without actually having to accomplish anything yourself
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that's convenient you can identify with the hypothetical victimization of that group and feel sorry for
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yourself and pleased at your compassion simultaneously another unearned victory you can simplify your
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world thank you ayn rand yeah exactly you can simplify your world radically as well all the problems you
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face now have a cause and a single one uh okay let me back up um because the lots of straw men here
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first off i find it rather fascinating that we're hearing all these arguments against the alt-right
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uh identitarians etc coming from non-anarcho-capitalist and non-radical individualists
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but who are making anarcho-capitalist randian arguments this is rand i mean she might not have
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been the first one to say it but she's the most prominent person to make this argument this radical
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individualism uh that jordan peterson who i don't i don't think is a uh anarcho-capitalist of any kind
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but is basically calling upon hyper liberalism basically to out he's going to out liberal us
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by talking this way well first off let me say this um he's making a rather uh glib and convenient
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argument by by by just uh identifying uh you know say nationalism or a sense of togetherness with just
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pure resentment so the only people who are and it's only a negative it's never it's never a positive right
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so you're a total loser but then you say oh yeah no really i'm mozart because i'm white
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not even your most debased 1.0 tattoo wearing skinhead thinks he's mozart because he's white
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so i mean this is just a completely stupid straw man on behalf of peterson i mean the fact is one has
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pride what one resonates with european history one has pride standing before notre dame cathedral
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because one sees it as something to admire but as a challenge as something that my people did
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this it's a russian of yours yeah it's it's in it's pride is such a and and taking pride in in a
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collective achievement is just such a natural aspect to all humans the the idea that we would
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demean this is just it's it's simply stupid it's anti-human and it's just radically out of touch
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it's the it's the kind of thing you would expect from an autistic randian and and if you were to take
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peterson's argument to its full expression it's to say you shouldn't be proud of your family right
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you know if you were born that's the that's the full expression that ran took it to no no yeah and it's
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true because look you think about it when you're a baby i hate this is going into real libertarian
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autism but it's true right when you go into it it's like when you're a baby your individuality
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is evolving as you as you grow older uh you know it's you you go from you go from you know walking
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and and having slight consciousness to having a full consciousness right but that's all in the
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context of you having been born in the family and as aristotle said being born a social creature
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right because you know as aristotle said man alone is either a beast or a god and uh i don't think
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peterson uh is imploring us to be gods no it's completely insane and then the other thing is that
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yeah it's it's you you should ask jordan peterson are you proud of your own son's achievements but then
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also or your grandfather's achievements and then also you could ask are you proud of canada's
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achievements are you proud of america's achievements as a as a you know this kind of vicarious american
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which he's become of course he is i can't believe are you proud of western civilization right which
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again they they again for them the the heritage of western civilization is in radical individualism
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and atomization to the point that you cannot be proud of european you know right this shows the
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seas of the left's own critique of western civilization right actually like they're actually
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giving our enemy they're giving the enemies of the west a lot of credit in this sense like they're
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they're they're they're allowing them the ammunition to defeat them they agree with their basic
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assumptions yes uh anyway um another unearned victory um all the problems you face now have a cause and a
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single one so you can dispense with the unpleasant difficulty of thinking things through in detail
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bonus furthermore and most reprehensibly these are all in italics much like rod dreher he overuses
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italics ray yes you now have someone to hate and what's worse with a good conscience so you can
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un so your unrecognized resentment and cowardly and incompetent failure to deal with the world forthrightly
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can find a target and you can feel morally superior in your consequent persecution see germany nazis for
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further evidence and information oh good the historical reference to the nazis right well one
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i would say well well jordan uh well dr peterson why why did you object to the transsexuals on your
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campus why like why why make it a big issue and he actually does he claims that he doesn't object to
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them he claims that he objects to the totalitarian bureaucracy forcing him to speak to them with
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their chosen pronouns so he's he's kind of having his cake and eating it too everyone was so excited
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about that like sick burn of you know a bbc reporter or whomever it was and i was like i i don't i wasn't
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terribly impressed by it first off it's easy but but secondly he's not even making a radical in the
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proper sense of the word rooted claim for no you have a sex you were born with a sex you are a man
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you are a woman whether you like it or not i'm not going to call you she when you have a penis uh he
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didn't make that claim he's making this you know weak limp conservative well the the government shouldn't
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force me to call you who cares what the government's telling you to do the question is whether it's right
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or not and you know i i don't know i it's just all this stuff uh the other thing just this straw man
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argument a of we have one single enemy uh you know sure i there are some people who who engage in
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conspiracy thinking and in the worst sense of that that term and and just think that uh oh yeah everything
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would be right with the world were it not for jews jews called male powder and baldness but that again
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sure you you might be able to find like two people like that but it's just a stupid straw man
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you know the whole point of my i mean i i'm just speaking from my perspective but i i could say this
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from anyone most everyone who's a a leader in the alt-right the whole point is that we're opening up
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discourse to this world of thinking racially uh acts asking the jewish question as opposed to avoiding
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it the idea that we are diminishing discourse is absolutely insane we are living in a thought
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prison and we are widening discourse and people like jordan peterson now is coming out and being
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like you can't talk about that because you're just saying that because you can't clean up your own room
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it's like dude this is so like it's this is not serious and addressing um the the jewish question
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and what is the alt-right also the the deeper the deeper point uh that i would make is that you know
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people like peterson and others you want to say oh your identity politics you're just like the left
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that's actually not true right uh one because what we do uh attacks the very the superstructure
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of of multiculturalism because you know when you think of multiculturalism it is basically like a
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saint catherine's wheel right the spoke of which is hatred of white people hatred of western
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civilization hatred of european achievement so if you embrace that you don't become if you embrace
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that you can be part of it so yes the the the the generic left will accept uh to to a degree you know
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black nationalism certainly blm because it's part of that collective that the core of which is anti-white
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uh you know white uh white consciousness no so yeah and yeah no this is again you so everything
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is the opposite of what they say people like peterson and other classical liberals are actually just
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another side of the leftist uh liberal hegemonic discourse in the world they're not they're not
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challenging it like we are exactly they're they're part of the collective because they're they are
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undermining uh white identity and and but they're doing it in the name of western civilization
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anyway second okay then we're back to peterson second in what manner if any are such claims true
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well jews are genuinely over-represented in positions of authority competence and influence
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he went there new york jews in particular snap up a disproportionate number of nobel prizes
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and jews are disproportionately eligible for admission at elite universities we're going to go
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into that uh where they along with asians tend to be discriminated against uh no uh but
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well asians yes asians yes uh jews know it's possible that we should be happy about this
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rather than annoyed is the fact that smart people are working hard for a mutual advancement really
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something to feel upset about i guess is what what exactly is the preferable alternative in any case
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the radical identity politics right-wingers regards such accomplishment as evidence of a conspiracy
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it hardly needs to be said that although conspiracies do occasionally occur conspiracy theories are the
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lowest form of intellectual enterprise is there another more credible explanation yes okay um let's uh
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okay let's before we go into the university question at which uh at these universities jews are
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discriminated against i'm not so sure about that first off let's actually uh discuss this first point
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which is that um he acknowledges that jews are over-represented first off that in itself is actually
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a dangerous claim yes if you if you say they're over-represented at cnn you're an antisemite why are you
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noticing this what's wrong with you what pathology i believe steve sailor talked about this like
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why would you the the the sin of noticing yes the sin of noticing exactly and so first off that is
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in itself politically incorrect and secondly he's admitting and he'll go to this in this next subsection
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um of a higher than average uh ashkenazi iq so he is basically admitting to hbd or race realism you can
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say so here we go um the significantly higher than average iq of ashkenazi jews uh um see this article in
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the economist blah blah blah um and he he actually links to gregory cochran which is great uh consider
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the consider that iq is the most powerful single determinant of long-term socioeconomic success
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okay uh i mean i guess i should praise him here um he is going he's he's become he's going
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steve sailor uh he is already doing things he's not doing the full sailor no not the full sailor but a
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half sailor he is he is like that was a beautiful half sailor she landed it perfectly she's up for the
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bronze this year yes he's pulled off the half sailor uh consider also that the effect of a mean
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uh or average difference in iq is dramatically increased at the tails of the distribution
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so that a 10 to 15 point difference produces increasingly large inequalities in group representation
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in proportion to the degree that a given job requires higher general cognitive ability yeah there's
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tails of the bell curve in a way more important it's it's actually interesting when we think about
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east asians or women they they have a narrower bell curve so men have a broader bell curve in the
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sense that men will disproportionately make up say the homeless the lunatics the total imbeciles the so
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on men overwhelmingly make up the great geniuses the great artists the great leaders the great
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politicians the great businessmen actually i i this is a funny moment but you know most people don't
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think of it men also make up the great chefs yes actually even though no no no literally when most
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people think think of their think think like you know women women are some of the best cooks but
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actually when you look at it some of the best chefs in the world it's a it's a male-dominated profession
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right also simply put if a very complex job or role requires an iq of 145 that's a very high
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iq three standard deviations above the mean and characteristic of less than one percent of the
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general population we're talking like philosophy professors and and high level software engineers
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then a group with a higher average iq will be exceptionally overrepresented in such enterprises
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okay i don't really disagree with anything from that paragraph and i would praise jordan peterson
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for saying these things uh it is interesting to remember um just on a when you write the same
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things you're i'm evil yeah or or jared taylor certainly this has been uh you know this sounds
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a lot like sailor it's kind of a half sailor a half taylor you know it's uh and so on um you know i i
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would say that one interesting thing about this is that jews it's not just iq jews are um they're
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kind of asymmetrical in a way that that gentile whites are not uh jews excel at verbal intelligence uh
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they uh fail uh often at visual intelligence uh or mathematics uh the um on average of course uh
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uh uh uh uh asians are actually the exact opposite um asians do not excel verbally uh in terms of
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spatial intelligence they will actually excel quite a bit um and you can even see this in art uh semitic
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art in general is non-representational it is decorative uh it does not possess that um truly european
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quality and you know so is jordan peterson's art by the way which which is awful right but but you
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know sorry to do to bring in to bring in some of the uh work of kevin mcdonald actually briefly it
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there's also amongst jews uh amongst you know the jewish people there's a higher amount of social
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cohesion no question there is amongst whites and this has an evolutionary explanation part of this is
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that when we as europe when our ancestors uh you know moved into europe uh moved into actually
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you can even microscope this like look at look at greece for instance when when when the achaeans
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or mycenaeans moved in there the you know there were such tall mountain ranges it was it was a breeding
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ground for individualism in a way right it was a breeding ground for for very tribalistic notions but
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that you know understood each other as having their own and competing against someone else but in a
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way that wasn't the same way for like uh you know yangtze river chinese civilization right or you know
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mohenjo daro or other places in uh recent recent evolution when you when you think of the jews that
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experienced on on a collective evolutionary level the middle ages experience the ghetto experience um
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um particular occupations that were actually even the romans who yeah who crushed them uh twice
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uh but yeah it's uh it's a different a certain type of jew uh evolved in the sense of jews that were
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able to survive these you know we we are a foreign body within another culture a certain type of jew is
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going to survive that what is one of the greatest jewish stories the babylonian captivity right of course you
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know when they when they when they were removed to uh to babylon under the uh under the second
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babylonian empire i believe it was right and uh you know were later freed by the persians yeah uh but
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again this this goes to talk about a level of group cohesion that actually we don't see in our own
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people for better or for worse we certainly don't see it in the alt-right um okay let's do this let's go
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back a little bit because he goes on to this openness to experience we'll get back to it but first off i i need
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to address this idea that which is that you know uh why are there so many jews at harvard well it's it's
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it's no secret they're all smart okay this is actually not true and you know jordan peterson just
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doesn't want to actually go from you know one more level down uh in terms of his analysis uh the fact
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is jews are and this was proven in a remarkable essay called the myth of american merit meritocracy
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by ron unz who is jewish who happens to be jewish uh but he's actually been very critical of zionism
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american foreign policy and and jews in america but the fact is i mean the again this is these facts that
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unz is bringing up really can't be disputed uh the fact is jews are even taking into account the higher than
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average or higher than average white iq of ashkenazi uh they are uh over represented at the elite
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institution let's compare them to asians right and what unz does yeah uh yeah let me just read some uh
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money quotes here uh from uh from the unz article the jewish levels for yale and columbia were also at
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25 percent while white gentiles that is uh were at 22 percent uh so you'll often see these statistics
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of of whites making up half the college or 45 percent of these the upper level places ivy's
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stanford duke you know some other ones thrown in there you chicago the places also these places
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matter more and not that there aren't other good colleges but it's it's these are the people who are
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going to staff the bureaucracies they're going to staff the law firms they're going to be you know
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the the staff cnn and so on uh yeah so they're making up white gentiles are effectively making
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up 25 percent of these bodies they they are we are radically underrepresented and jews are making up 25
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percent uh whereas the the average america the african-american is brought usually to somewhere
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around their demographic level in the country at 12 percent um in fact this is unspeaking if we
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aggregate the reported enrollment figures we discover that four percent of all college-age
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american jews are currently enrolled in the ivy league four percent of college-age jews are in
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the ivy league compared to just one percent of asians and about point one percent of whites of christian
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background um now here it goes but suppose these estimates are correct these uh estimates in terms of
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uh uh average iq of asians which is around the 106 i believe uh average ashkenazi iq is 115 again they
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have different profiles within that but if we assume these estimates and asians are overall indeed
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twice as likely as jews to rank among america's highest performing students i'll read that again
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asians are twice as likely as jews to rank among america's highest performing students we must also
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consider that america's asian population is far larger in size representing roughly five percent
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of college-age students compared to just 1.8 percent for jews therefore assuming an admission
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system based on strict the strictest objective meritocracy we would expect our elite academic
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institutions to contain nearly five asians for every jew but instead the jews are far more numerous
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in some important cases by almost a factor of two so asians are outnumbered by jews but yet um but
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yet they should be outnumbering jews i mean it's it's clearly this raises this is unspeaking this
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raises obvious suspicions about the fairness of the ivy league admission process so what else is this
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besides you get one hand structural racism on the behalf of jews and or ethnic nepotism on behalf of
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admissions officers what else is it because it's not what jordan peterson is arguing which is well
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of course they're in the ivy league because they're so damn smart it's not that actually asians are
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pretty radically underrepresented if we're going pure merit merit meritocracy and jews are over
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represented so jordan's just miss dr peterson is just simply wrong he's selective he's selective
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with hbd facts yes like he he wants to say that yes um you know jews have a high iq and of course
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that's why they're smart but he wants to ignore the facts which are that uh which you know which are the
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ethnic nepotism and other facts that ron uns brings up he wants to ignore those facts and focus on others
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right openness to experience is one of the five cardinal personality traits wikipedia will fill you
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blah blah openness to experience often has been considered the reflection of general cognitive
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ability or intelligence and personality it's what you are referring to when you describe someone as
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thoughtful smart artistic or philosophical people with high cues tend overwhelmingly to be higher in
00:32:08.780
trait openness to experience um okay i don't fully disagree with that uh however i i think this is
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this is kind of this is kind of getting at so look all this is is a is a higher iq attempt to say
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that people who believe in uh racialism are dumb right and and that's actually not true for a variety
00:32:34.140
well i can it's i can see it kind of being being being true and untrue in the sense that like your your
00:32:41.420
average your your average normie let's say someone of a middling iq uh what do they really seek in life
00:32:49.100
they they seek companionship they seek security uh they they they seek some some fun throw in thrown
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into the fact that their lives are are structured and and and and they seek repetitive from their peers
00:33:02.140
yeah and recognition from their peers and you know it is a lot of you could say middle class normie people
00:33:07.340
who they don't want a bunch of refugees coming into their idaho town they they they fear illegal
00:33:13.180
immigration because again it's a it's a disruptive force uh for their lives uh and so you you could
00:33:19.260
say okay they're they're racist in that sense but again what we're dealing with with the rise of the
00:33:24.860
alt-right is that to a very large degree it is a kind of it is an angst over demographic change and
00:33:29.900
american change no question but also in terms of the intellectual leaders of the alt-right it it
00:33:36.060
actually it it's not based on just bigotry i would say that you know when you're thinking
00:33:41.820
about major figures we're all cognitively open and philosophical we're open to these bigger ideas
00:33:47.820
this gets at jordan peterson's fundamental problem with this is that all like at before we even think
00:33:54.620
about the argument he's basically trying to close off debate with one blog entry you know this is
00:34:00.300
something i was thinking about actually earlier today richard which is that you know for so
00:34:05.900
many people in the modern in the modern world the personal is political and by that what i mean
00:34:12.940
is what's the most common argument you hear against being an alt-right or whatever it's like
00:34:18.300
well you know didn't you meet a nice black person or didn't you meet you know or were you mugged
00:34:24.940
and therefore this is a pathological response no no but deeper in a deeper didn't you it's like richard
00:34:30.220
both of us have met you know minorities or whoever that we get along with sure just fine but what
00:34:37.820
we in the alt-right it's it's it's actually the opposite of that it's it's the fact that it's a
00:34:43.500
tragedy that our people are being replaced on the macro level right it's the fact that politics is
00:34:49.740
happening above us you know the liberal wants to take the politics to be part of the personal
00:34:57.580
because that is how it operates it is ultimately an individualistic notion which understands itself
00:35:04.860
within only the individual experience which is like oh i met this person they must be fine it's
00:35:11.980
whatever i can't i can't conceive yeah of being anything beyond that but we in the alt-right realize that
00:35:18.380
look that very well may be true like we can go out here and in lovely you know swiple alexandria
00:35:25.580
yeah and meet a lot of nice people actually you can meet a lot of talented 10th people uh talented
00:35:30.940
10th african americans or you know indians or whatever but that's not the issue the issue is
00:35:36.780
the fact that our people are dying and our people are being replaced on the macro level and we have
00:35:42.380
empathy like we are again you know they they say we're making the personal political it's actually
00:35:48.940
the opposite we are actually disregarding the personal in a way to talk about the ultimate the
00:35:55.420
ultimate day right but then at the same time we have empathy for our people i mean very very few well i
00:36:02.540
shouldn't say that actually there there is a kind of version of the alt-right that is autistically
00:36:08.620
focused on iq and data and and you could actually criticize them for being mean-spirited and in the
00:36:14.300
sense of oh look at how dumb these blacks are look at all this crime and so on but if you really
00:36:20.380
are an identitarian it fundamentally means that you have a a great capacity for empathy you care not
00:36:29.180
only about say you know talking about the big ideas or talking about kevin mcdonald but you care
00:36:34.220
about the person suffering from the opioid crisis right and if you can't do both and look some
00:36:40.220
people are better than things that others i'm more on the let's talk about ideas and obviously uh we're
00:36:45.260
doing this podcast other people are more on the let's talk about the opioid crisis i am and sure but
00:36:50.780
there's divisional labor but if you're not if you don't have both in your soul then you're really not
00:36:55.660
going to be a part of this and no i mean and you know that that that is my uh larger point there which
00:37:01.100
is that these people a lot of these people peterson here is doing a very uh horrible thing where it's
00:37:06.940
like oh you know you can't meet like a smart whoever that's not the point yeah the point of the fact
00:37:13.420
is we realize the macro demographic change changes going on right in our world and we seek to confront
00:37:20.460
them right so anyway let's go back to peterson's essay so this is part c i'm reading from peterson
00:37:26.060
the relationship between openness to experience and political liberalism political affiliation
00:37:31.020
is importantly associated with personality conservatives right-wingers tend to be high
00:37:35.500
in conscientiousness particularly in the conscientiousness aspect of orderliness room
00:37:40.860
cleaning i guess and low in openness to experience while liberals left-wingers tend to have the reverse
00:37:46.380
pattern and high openness to experience the story is somewhat more complicated so basically he's
00:37:51.900
saying that because jews are so smart they're going to inherently uh be liberal i think this is also
00:37:58.300
there's probably some truth to this but this is also i i think radically naive jews are not simply uh
00:38:06.460
over represented among liberals they're over represented among the left there is no question even
00:38:12.700
critics of kevin mcdonald don't actually question this they are over represented on the radical left they
00:38:17.340
are over represented on things like pornography they are over represented in the mass media they are
00:38:22.540
over represented in basically the culture industry the creation of of ideology and thought processes
00:38:30.460
in contemporary america then the facts i'm actually not sitting here as some you know debased resentful
00:38:36.860
guy being like oh god you know my life sucks because of these guys you know these these are facts these
00:38:42.300
are simply facts and you have to uh you have to explain why they are so interested in getting
00:38:49.420
control in in being part of the infrastructure of the organs of culture and mass media and and and
00:38:57.020
thought construction and the left in general jews are radically over represented behind the scenes in
00:39:03.500
the civil rights movement their story is not only not always told by hollywood interestingly they're
00:39:08.700
over represented in hollywood why are they like even taking into account higher verbal intelligence why
00:39:14.860
are they so interested in this and how are they able to gain these this kind of foothold in these all
00:39:21.580
powerful institutions if it is not institutional racism on behalf of jews or ethnic nepotism yeah and
00:39:29.980
the one thing i would add to that richard is that i believe dr peterson is engaging um of course i should
00:39:36.380
preface this by saying you know i'm i'm more of a i'm more open to anti-enlightenment thought
00:39:41.420
than maybe you are richard but i do think dr peterson is engaging in a certain scientistic
00:39:47.580
and when i say scientistic i don't mean scientific scientism is a term right used uh use used to mean to use
00:39:55.580
the trappings of science to overlay things that are actually not scientific right uh when when you say
00:40:02.220
that of course jews are more liberal because they have higher iq you're using in a way the trappings
00:40:08.140
of very true uh science as it relates to iq and other such things to explain some to explain something
00:40:15.340
where there is actually no correlation you're you're you're pretending to say here here here's the facts
00:40:22.780
ma'am to quote uh whatever but you're saying here's the facts but that's actually that those actually
00:40:30.220
aren't the facts you're using it to spin a narrative you're using it in a very scientistic
00:40:35.340
uh right uh but it's not accurate at all you're you're you're using a false sense of science yeah to
00:40:42.380
shore up uh to shore up an argument against what you think what is true actually all right let's bring
00:40:48.380
it to a close here so what's the story no conspiracy get it no conspiracy in bold he's kind of getting
00:40:56.220
kind of authoritative i've never i've never written anything like that using bold just to basically
00:41:02.620
hammer uh things this reminds me of dreyer yeah um uh jewish people are overrepresented in positions
00:41:09.580
of competence and authority because as a group they have a higher mean iq again that is a not a pc
00:41:16.060
statement but uh again he's what the point is is that he's really missing the larger point the effect of
00:41:21.820
this group difference approximately difference between the typical high school student and the
00:41:25.340
typical state college student um is magnified for occupations interests that require high general
00:41:31.180
cognitive ability equal overrepresentation may also occur in political movements associated with
00:41:36.220
the left because high q is associated with openness to experience okay we already went into this stuff
00:41:41.340
there is no evidence whatsoever that ashkenazi jews are overrepresented in any occupation's interest
00:41:46.860
for reasons other than intelligence and the associated effects of intelligence on personality
00:41:51.820
and political belief thus this is in bold no conspiratorial claims based on ethic identity need
00:41:57.020
to be given credence at all btfo yes no uh this again he is let's also just keep in mind that this is
00:42:05.740
an attempt to shut down discourse like no conspiracy in bold no you know and again while while he does so
00:42:11.740
he's he's giving off these glimmers of truth actually which is which is interesting like this is what's
00:42:17.020
interesting about this piece to sum up is that he okay this person is far more uh uh influential than
00:42:27.500
than you or i are right now the he's you know again i've had my big media blast which are you know kind
00:42:34.700
of uh you know we're big and go up and down and you know so on uh but right now he has been on like a
00:42:40.700
six-month media blast he has been everywhere his views he gets tons of views on youtube uh his
00:42:47.100
book is is in barnes and noble colleges without antifa well that's not actually true to his credit
00:42:52.940
he was he was attacked by antifa but he's invited to colleges he's invited but i'm saying he can do
00:42:57.580
more successful college talks no question i mean he is no question winning right now and whatever we
00:43:03.260
want to say about this article you know he is missing a tremendous amount he is conceding a tremendous
00:43:09.900
amount which is interesting and i don't quite know how that is going to play out no uh without a doubt
00:43:17.740
and you know the the the only thing i will say there richard is that despite the fact that he's
00:43:25.100
conceding these things we we should keep in mind what the facts are the facts are actually on the side of
00:43:31.580
the alt-right uh you know when you're talking about jewish privilege uh you know it's not as if we're
00:43:38.780
some some sort of knuckle-dragging lunatics that are like yeah jews cause male pattern baldness right
00:43:46.220
something we're noticing a trend and we're noticing a fact that is very real and it's been real uh you
00:43:52.860
know throughout the history of western civilization and that is really all we're arguing not uh not an it has
00:43:59.500
nothing to do with national socialism or anything like that right and we're doing it with real
00:44:05.340
empathy for people who are suffering which apparently jordan peterson lacks
00:44:29.500
some kind of knowing the the the the reality of life and justice honestようにama mazi