RadixJournal - April 17, 2026


The Red Pill in Reverse


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In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with my good friend and long-time friend Ron Paul to discuss the role of Jews and Jews in American politics. We talk about the role that Jews play in shaping our politics and the role they play in our culture.

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00:00:00.000 Our alliance with Israel as an existential threat to the United States. 0.99
00:00:04.500 They will nuke the entire world. 0.97
00:00:06.500 Israel is the biggest threat to world peace. 0.99
00:00:09.200 Let us never forget who the real enemy is. 0.99
00:00:13.000 The enemy is Israel. 0.99
00:00:14.500 We need to decouple from this country. 1.00
00:00:17.000 We need to decouple.
00:00:19.000 Decouple, let's separate. 0.99
00:00:20.500 We need to free America from this sick, perverse, parasitic organism that has attached itself to us. 1.00
00:00:30.000 foreign nationals leeching off i think that's actually enough you get the point um so 1.00
00:00:40.000 let me get the conversation started here by throwing out a few things first off it is
00:00:53.080 interesting that both of these figures who are representative of broader movements left liberals
00:01:00.800 on the part of anna kasparian and white nationalist or the dissident right etc on the on the part of
00:01:08.680 nick fuentes they're both representatives they're not just two individuals might agree
00:01:13.140 they both have come to trump rather recently well it's complicated with nick he didn't endorse trump
00:01:22.160 after the Vance nomination and he's critical of Trump but let's also just be honest here
00:01:28.360 they're sort of attached at the hip and I don't think Nick could ever fully emancipate himself
00:01:38.080 from MAGA and he will often make arguments like Trump isn't going far enough and there there's
00:01:44.460 not enough deportations we got to have more of these and so on and so forth so there there is
00:01:50.080 a deep connection between nick and maga that will never go away one day we'll have a real
00:01:55.640 america first candidate or something this is the rhetoric with anna casparian it's very interesting
00:02:01.600 because they they were the prototypical you know crying on election night when hillary lost
00:02:06.300 type people and then they started moving closer to trump and were at the very least anti-biden
00:02:12.340 and might have even affected the election to some small of significant degree uh coaxing
00:02:19.980 people not to vote or demoralizing them uh etc there there does seem to be a sort of trumpian
00:02:29.160 or post-trump populism of the left and right that is real that has a constituency and that is also
00:02:38.720 young and we can go look at all of these polls harry enton cnn clips where he is just laying it
00:02:47.780 out among under 40s israel used to have a plus 20 favorability rating um you know many more people
00:02:55.720 who were favorable than than critical now it's negative 20 or negative 25 it's it's in the
00:03:01.200 dumpster it's bad and there's just been this turning on israel and i don't think it's wrong
00:03:08.120 to suggest that when you turn on israel you're sort of kind of sort of anti-semitic um i mean
00:03:15.900 it just is what it is uh anna kasparian has been accused of engaging in anti-semitic
00:03:21.940 parodies and stereotypes etc it just is what it is um there's this other aspect that i i think
00:03:31.100 would be a good way to get the discussion going and you brought this up which was that
00:03:36.720 there was a time there was a time you understand it was things were different and there was a
00:03:45.880 red pilling process that would go on and this was the chorus honorum for my career in life which is
00:03:57.420 that you keep taking darker shades of the red pill you keep keeping a bigger red pill or more
00:04:05.320 red pills maybe first you're red pilled on the fact that the liberals hate you or something like 1.00
00:04:13.240 that and then you start to get red pilled on like women feminist feminism's bad women is a women are 0.99
00:04:23.140 not um uh delicate angels they're they're out to get you etc then you kind of take a deeper red 1.00
00:04:32.360 pill and it's like blacks blacks are dumb low iqs there's nothing you can do and then you kind of 1.00
00:04:40.360 keep going down this road of red pills and you end up with the ultimate red pill which really is 1.00
00:04:47.760 the jq and it's a it's some variation on it's a jewish controlled world uh jews are evolved to be 0.99
00:04:57.400 evil in some way uh judaism itself is rather wicked they're just some jews in hollywood jews 0.90
00:05:05.120 wall street some version of that is the dark red pill and so there are people who are sort of half 1.00
00:05:12.000 red pilled you know jerry taylor is half red pilled he's good on the black question but not
00:05:17.000 on the jq that's the criticism and and uh you know ron paul he's semi red pill don't you think you
00:05:23.080 know i i heard all of this kind of stuff but what we've seen and i totally agree with your analysis
00:05:30.120 here is what we've seen is that that linear quality to being red-pilled has been totally
00:05:37.480 disrupted and i don't think is even that like useful anymore and what we seem what seems to be
00:05:49.020 happening among average normies left liberals like anna uh people who voted for zoran mandami
00:05:58.500 uh some people who voted for both bernie sanders and trump you know it's a sizable percentage of
00:06:04.620 the population that they are weirdly jq pilled without being red pilled on blacks or even
00:06:14.200 feminism or things like that and i find this i mean this is sort of inside baseball in the sense
00:06:22.000 that were, you know, talking about the pipeline,
00:06:26.680 which way it's going and what's happening online.
00:06:28.960 But I actually think it's very significant.
00:06:31.780 And looking at some of those polls,
00:06:34.400 there's this clip that was going viral,
00:06:37.220 getting millions of views of Harry Enten
00:06:38.980 talking about under 40s going hard on Israel.
00:06:44.220 People at the PPUSA convention
00:06:47.060 asking questions about the USS Liberty.
00:06:50.000 I could go on and on.
00:06:51.240 What we seem to be seeing is that average normies, radicalized millennials who can never afford a house, and they're now 40, conservative activist types, religious right people, they're all getting JQ pilled without maybe any of the other pills.
00:07:13.180 And this seems to be a major social phenomenon.
00:07:19.800 Megyn Kelly got JQ pilled, at least to some degree. 0.99
00:07:23.720 Carrie Prejean Bowler is just an outright anti-Semite at this point. 0.72
00:07:30.220 Like, what is happening? 0.99
00:07:31.920 What, you know, beyond just low IQ anti-Semitism,
00:07:35.760 like, what is happening here in terms of just a social phenomenon
00:07:41.800 that we are seeing and i'll now that i've set it up i'll give it over to you
00:07:47.240 so there's a guy on subsec called non-zionism he's an orthodox jew who lives in israel
00:07:55.300 and he has this theory of anti-semitism but he's an anti-zionist no he's a non-zionist
00:08:03.940 a non-zionist okay so i mean i could waste time talking about what that is but the point of the
00:08:11.220 fact is that he has this theory of anti-semitism that if you go back to germany after the first
00:08:17.620 world war even during the first world war actually if you read the memoirs of ludendorff
00:08:22.380 um and his he created this fatherland party during the war which was meant to like because
00:08:28.900 they recognized that there was this discontent in germany there was uh there were food shortages
00:08:35.100 There were shortages of all sorts of goods. Life was difficult. People were malnourished. The war was extremely hard on the German population. And so all of these socialists and Democrats and radicals were agitating to end the war and they were agitating against the monarchy. They were agitating against Christianity.
00:08:55.220 It seemed as if society itself was collapsing during the war.
00:08:58.440 And so Ludendorff came up with this program, which he said it would be a nationalistic program with the workers' interests. 0.73
00:09:07.200 Now, if that sounds familiar to you, it's because Hitler didn't invent the idea, right? 0.88
00:09:12.340 So this is an idea whose time had already come.
00:09:16.800 And Ludendorff attempted to implement that during the war, of course, sort of haphazardly.
00:09:21.500 It didn't have a systematic program.
00:09:23.240 Ludendorff was never the dictator of Germany, although the newspapers would call him the dictator.
00:09:29.400 You know, you, of course, had Hindenburg above him, and then you had the Kaiser and the parliament and so on.
00:09:35.060 So he was never able to fully implement that program.
00:09:38.520 But it was there was an attempt.
00:09:42.040 And what occurred after the disaster of the end of the war, where there's, you know, a million German civilians died after the war.
00:09:51.960 People don't know this, but the British blockade starved civilians after the armistice was signed, which, you know, if we were talking about the Gaza genocide, like the least you can say is that after the war ended, after the ceasefire, the Israelis started to let food in.
00:10:05.720 The British didn't do that. So it was a desperate situation for these people. And that formula of combining nationalism with the workers' interests, there was still something missing there because these two sides, the nationalists and the socialists, had really diverged significantly in the aftermath of there was a low-grade civil war.
00:10:28.420 There were these Spartacist revolts.
00:10:30.760 There was the Freikorps fighting in the streets, the Kappputsch.
00:10:34.460 So Germany was in a state of low-grade civil war.
00:10:37.540 It wasn't happening everywhere all the time.
00:10:39.520 It wasn't, you know, there technically was a central government and so on.
00:10:42.540 But you would just see these cities, basically hundreds of people shooting each other in the streets, almost a form of gang warfare, just total chaos.
00:10:51.380 And so as a result of that, this fatherland party ideal that Ludendorff was pushing for, he wasn't able to move it forward because of this deep division between the Browns and the Reds, between the Nationalists and the Socialists.
00:11:04.600 And this polarization only continued as the middle hollowed out, as the Social Democrats, who actually were the strongest party following the collapse, they started to whittle down because everyone blamed them for everything that had happened. 0.71
00:11:18.420 And as a result, you've got the Nazis and the communists being these two camps that were kind of inevitable that one of them was going to take over. 0.76
00:11:32.060 And so what the Nazis, I think, realized early on in comparison with these other conservatives who were not so anti-Semitic is they realized that anti-Semitism serves a vital function. 0.75
00:11:45.600 If you're living in Germany between 1919 and 1929, you're experiencing three back-to-back Great Depression events, economic collapse, hyperinflation, everyone loses all their life savings, 30% unemployment, breadlines. 0.62
00:11:59.940 If you're experiencing that, then you know in your heart that the elites have done you wrong.
00:12:06.920 And whether you're a communist, you know that's right.
00:12:09.420 Whether you're an anti-Semite, you know that's right.
00:12:11.540 The only people who couldn't say that so boldly were these kind of starchy old conservatives who said, oh, well, you know, we just need the monarchy back, you know, that the aristocrats had it right. 0.86
00:12:24.120 You know, the First World War wasn't that bad. Let's just return to what we had.
00:12:28.800 That argument was not convincing.
00:12:30.800 And so anti-Semitism, what it did is it went to the communists and said, you know, you guys believe that the bourgeoisie and the capitalists are responsible for everything wrong. 0.84
00:12:41.420 And we say, you're half right. You're half right. What you're missing is the fact that they're Jewish. And then you could go to the nationalists. You could say, you know, you believe that the problem is the attacks on Christianity and it's communism and it's the destruction of the family and all this. And you're half right. But what you don't recognize is it's the Jews.
00:12:58.640 And so they could go to both of these sides, who were supposedly on total polar opposites fighting each other in the streets, and say, you actually have a common enemy in the Jews. 0.87
00:13:08.540 Now, of course, the Nazis literally believed that to be true.
00:13:12.100 They weren't just making a propagandistic point.
00:13:14.560 But what he's saying is that this ideology emerged to become so popular because it was so useful.
00:13:20.780 And if you you actually look at Nazi Germany from 1933 until 1945, there was no workers uprising.
00:13:28.040 There was no communist revolt. It didn't happen in the Wehrmacht.
00:13:31.260 It didn't happen in the civil service. It was totally quiet.
00:13:35.340 Now, yes, they put thousands of leading communists in concentration camps, but they were there were millions of communist voters in 1932.
00:13:42.820 Where did they all go? Well, they became Nazis. Why? 0.77
00:13:46.520 Because they were actually convinced their minds were changed. 0.98
00:13:49.580 They were persuaded to believe that, yeah, you know, this whole time we were fighting for workers' rights, and as it turned out, I guess Hitler was right. I guess it was the Jews because he had this economic miracle following 1934. There was German rearmament, hyper, you know, rather than hyperinflation, you had hyperemployment. 0.92
00:14:07.720 You had you had growth in the economy because he restarted the arms industry and had all these these programs and plans that, you know, had he not started the war in 1939, maybe there would have been, you know, some all the enormous government debt would have would have shown itself to to have made those economic programs not as successful.
00:14:28.080 But in any case, the argument they were convinced by that argument, the actual people who revolted against Hitler were not communists.
00:14:37.540 They were not socialists. They were Catholics.
00:14:39.280 It was Admiral Canaris. And all these assassination attempts were done by Catholics elites. 0.96
00:14:44.920 Why? Because they saw Hitler as trying to create a new elite and replace them. 0.57
00:14:50.420 And they heard whisperings of this. You look at Martin Borman, atheist, Joseph Goebbels, atheist, Himmler, esoteric paganist.
00:14:58.080 All of these people in the top ranks of the Nazis, they were basically saying, once we win this war, we're going to deal with the Catholic question.
00:15:05.180 We've already dealt with the Jewish question. Now we need to deal with the Catholic question.
00:15:09.280 The theologist, you could say, of the Third Reich, Rosenberg, explicitly attacked these people and said, you know what, we've got to get rid of the Catholics and the Protestants. 0.86
00:15:19.580 We need a new form of Christianity. We have to get rid of all of these people. 0.99
00:15:22.720 So the people who were the most threatened by Hitler were these Catholic elites, essentially, if you actually look at who was doing all the attempts at assassinating Hitler and so on. 0.91
00:15:33.360 So all of that is to say that anti-Semitism was really a very convincing, popular program. 0.58
00:15:41.220 The Nazis didn't adopt it because they were fringe weirdos and freaks, which is what a lot of people like to say of, oh, they tricked the German people.
00:15:49.500 No, they went to the German people with candy bars and they said, oh, we love, you know, this is great.
00:15:55.220 This solves all of our problems.
00:15:56.620 It unites the country.
00:15:57.880 And so what we're looking at now is in America, which is in a very different circumstance, right?
00:16:02.220 We have material plenty.
00:16:04.340 No one is starving.
00:16:05.580 In fact, all the poor people are obese. 0.85
00:16:07.580 So we're not living in Weimar, Germany, clearly.
00:16:10.260 But what we do have is an extreme political polarization of society, because Christian, we could call it conservative liberalism or moderate politics, all of that has collapsed. You could blame the Internet. You could blame declining religiousness. You could blame the breakup part of the family or say that all these things have a third underlying cause.
00:16:31.420 But the point is, is that we've lost that central trust in authority. We have a crisis of authority. And so the question is, what unites us all? If it's not Christianity, if it's not the Constitution, if it's not democracy, whatever, what can unite us?
00:16:45.060 Well, we could have a common enemy. And if you're on the right, that common enemy can be Israel. And if you're on the left, the common enemy can be Israel. There is an interesting kind of weird contradiction on both the left and right. 0.96
00:16:59.860 on the left it's very obvious because of course you got george soros you've got uh you know
00:17:04.760 innumerable jews throughout american history you know built the civil rights regime and they you
00:17:10.980 know have always been good leftists i think batia ungar sargon whatever the hell her name is like
00:17:16.560 she makes this argument of oh the left they're anti-semitic but don't they know that we literally 0.66
00:17:21.520 built the democratic party we did all this stuff and it's like this weird self-reporting baby jews 0.86
00:17:26.900 are like please shut up please you are not helping we we did we did feminism we did 0.97
00:17:34.320 lesbianism right it's all jews all the way down we did you know you're welcome left and like 0.99
00:17:41.920 they're like actual pogroms outside of the television studio she's right yeah i mean 0.95
00:17:48.540 it's it's very it's very funny but obviously on the left there is that contradiction where it's
00:17:53.320 like the jews have been so important in the history of american leftism for the american
00:17:59.520 left now to be uh anti-israel anti-semitic seems kind of like you know the golem revolting against
00:18:07.140 its master sort of thing right but then on the right you also have a phenomenon going on where
00:18:12.320 the right wing like the core young people they are groipers they are anti-semitic they are anti-israel
00:18:18.720 And yet, who is this radical right being patronized? It's it's by this network, which is heavily Israeli, heavily pro Netanyahu, the entire Trump movement like Nick Fuentes wants to make this argument like, well, back in 2016, Trump was based, but now he's cringed.
00:18:37.120 Now he's been captured by the GOP establishment.
00:18:39.980 But if you actually look at who started Breitbart and Bannon and Roger Stone and all roads go to Israel.
00:18:48.460 So this is incredibly it's a Jared Kushner operation through both terms.
00:18:53.320 It's completely and they don't care.
00:18:55.320 Sheldon Adelson didn't care.
00:18:57.320 You know, whatever the these leading important wealthy families that backed him from the very start.
00:19:04.080 They're all really tied in with Israel. And so it's very difficult to make this argument of, oh, we were hoodwinked. No, you just didn't want to see what was in front of you. And so that continues to be the case today, whereas in the left, you could argue that maybe the hypocrisy runs the other way.
00:19:24.620 It's that, well, don't you understand that leftism is a Jewish project and you're somehow claiming to be a leftist, but you're anti-Israeli?
00:19:31.760 How does that make sense, right?
00:19:32.880 So they have a historical problem.
00:19:35.120 For the right, it's the opposite.
00:19:36.920 It's that historically, the right wing was actually not so pro-Israel.
00:19:40.720 Say what you will about George W. Bush.
00:19:43.040 But he did not partition Iraq into three countries as Netanyahu was pushing for.
00:19:49.540 You heard that all the time of, you know, there's a Kurdish, Shiite, Sunni.
00:19:53.280 And really, there are three different countries and we should just split it up. 0.96
00:19:57.100 That was the Israeli plan for Iraq. George Bush didn't do that.
00:20:00.120 He criticized Israel for violating human trafficking laws. 0.72
00:20:04.800 You know, they were and they said we want a two state solution. 0.90
00:20:07.860 We do not support settlements. Those are illegal. They're against international law.
00:20:11.240 We're going to be against that. So, you know, George Bush actually like the traditional Republican position was not as radical as what Trump was doing.
00:20:19.520 and it continues in this direction he supported democratic rights in gaza remember the reason why
00:20:25.120 uh the reason by hamas got elected and was ruling gaza was 100 due to george w bush and his true
00:20:34.200 belief that these arabs should vote you know i mean which is yeah i mean that this this position
00:20:43.580 that the GOP is moving in an anti-Semitic or anti-Zionist direction, there is a fundamental
00:20:54.860 contradiction because you look at all of these, you can almost say that there was a GOP establishment
00:21:02.180 and now there's a MAGA establishment. At this point, they are so entrenched. They have so much
00:21:07.200 money. They have so much power and influence. Joe Rogan is in the MAGA establishment. You know,
00:21:12.460 Dave Smith, they pretend to be RFK, all these people who are, we're dissidents, we're cool, we're hippies.
00:21:21.260 It's like, you know what?
00:21:22.300 The hippies were manufactured by the CIA and so are you.
00:21:26.880 It's all the same.
00:21:27.820 I mean, I'm exaggerating in conspiratorial fashion, but there is a point to it, which is that these people who most loudly have to proclaim that they're revolutionaries and they're outside the system,
00:21:40.540 They're at the top of the system.
00:21:42.580 One way I could put it is there is a blue deep state, and there is a red deep state.
00:21:48.180 There is a deep state which is represented by Harvard and the State Department and is sort of anti-Zionist and pro-Taiwan and pro-Ukraine.
00:21:57.500 And then there is a deep state that says, you know, well, we could make a lot of money by trading with Russia again.
00:22:04.580 We could make a lot of money. 0.76
00:22:05.520 Just give them Ukraine. 0.99
00:22:06.500 You know, these are the Peter Thiel's and the Elon Musk and the Silicon Valley and all those things. And this emergence of these two parallel deep states that hate each other, they want to put one another in jail and so on, they do have this contradictory relationship where on the left, you know, the leftist deep state basically starts with communist infiltration. 0.55
00:22:35.680 in the FDR administration, which was heavily Jewish. 0.61
00:22:39.240 And now they want to defund Israel.
00:22:41.220 Isn't that ironic?
00:22:42.200 Okay, well, on the right-wing version of the deep state,
00:22:45.060 they're also saying, oh, yeah, we're woke on the JQ,
00:22:48.440 but you look at where all the funding is coming from,
00:22:51.380 and it's all going back to Netanyahu,
00:22:53.160 all this Orbanism stuff. 0.84
00:22:54.620 Oh, it's based. 0.96
00:22:55.680 It's white identitarianism. 1.00
00:22:58.060 But it's all going back to Israel. 0.92
00:22:59.860 Why is that?
00:23:00.700 So on the right wing, I think the key thing people have to understand
00:23:05.020 is that anti-Semitism isn't bad for Israel.
00:23:08.240 And sometimes even anti-Zionism isn't bad for Israel.
00:23:11.460 The question is the material conditions.
00:23:14.600 That's what Netanyahu cares about. 0.99
00:23:16.220 He doesn't care if you call him a dirty Jew. 1.00
00:23:18.380 He doesn't care if you say you should go into a gas chamber. 1.00
00:23:20.840 He actually likes it.
00:23:22.100 Because the more of that rhetoric exists in public life,
00:23:24.840 the more that Jews, mostly in America but also in Europe,
00:23:29.200 will feel pressured to support Israel
00:23:31.500 and to leave their countries to go to Israel. 0.61
00:23:33.700 And this is Israel's entire strategy, is they want as many Jews in the diaspora to work for Israel, support Israel, and eventually to move to Israel so that they can increase their funding, increase their population, their GDP, the number of fighting age men. 0.88
00:23:52.020 They want all these people to be sucked into Israel. 0.76
00:23:54.620 So their strategy is, you know, we don't care if you make gas chamber memes. 0.97
00:23:58.760 That's actually good for us because it scares Jews into feeling they have to support us. 1.00
00:24:03.440 Remember this phrase, the October 8th Jew or the October 7th Jew. 0.98
00:24:07.900 It's, well, I was just a secular Jew. 0.89
00:24:10.320 I was going to marry a Gentile or something. 1.00
00:24:13.520 But then they're basically, that was their red-pilling moment, right? 0.69
00:24:16.240 They said, no, actually, this proves that the left hates us, and now we have to be right-wing-based Jews.
00:24:22.520 And actually, we'll tolerate a little bit of anti-Semitism from the right wing.
00:24:26.060 We don't care if they say goyslop or they kind of make these little subtle remarks.
00:24:32.320 Because what matters at the end of the day is we need to defeat the left, because the left is the real opponent of Israel. We can make a deal with the right, because the right wing, they might have memes, they might have gas chamber rhetoric. But at the end of the day, they're going to let us bomb the hell out of the Gazans. They're going to support us. They're going to give us the Iron Dome. They're going to give us a war with Iran, even, which, you know, Trump up and down said, we'll never go to war with Iran.
00:24:57.100 that's crazy it's kamal harris who wants to go to war with iran and now that he's flipped the 0.53
00:25:02.460 position 90 of republicans support him right so jews see that they see how easy republicans are
00:25:10.760 to control in contrast to joe biden who you know he said well we don't we support israel but we're
00:25:20.120 concerned about what they're doing over there and the democratic base revolted they said
00:25:26.340 you know we're done we we don't like that we'll vote green party or we won't vote at all
00:25:31.200 and they see that the left is kind of more rambunctious they're more uppity whereas the
00:25:36.000 right wing is just fundamentally more compliant they follow the leader they're more hierarchical
00:25:40.420 i suppose less ideological they don't care about the substance on the right they care about memes
00:25:45.820 They care about TikTok edits or these Twitter hyperborean fast wave edits.
00:25:52.660 And so that that concentration of aesthetics means that the right wing is more malleable and more ameliorative to their needs.
00:26:02.380 And so the result of, you know, these Abraham Accords, the war in Iran, everything has been to create a geopolitical situation now where basically the main Arab powers, I mean, typified by Saudi Arabia, but also Syria.
00:26:17.380 I mean, these Arab countries have basically they are on the verge of reestablishing diplomatic relations with Israel.
00:26:25.440 They're closer than they have ever been since 1947, maybe even before you could say.
00:26:30.160 And so this is a huge accomplishment for Israel. They're going to reward the GOP for this. That doesn't mean that the Nick Fuentes phenomenon, the Groeper phenomenon is going to go away, but it's going to become more intensely paradoxical, more hypocritical. 0.55
00:26:46.600 you're going to see i think in 2028 you're going to see a candidate just like vivek in 2024 was 0.62
00:26:52.740 saying oh you know maybe i support israel but they don't need aid i can see jd vance saying
00:26:57.980 similar things i can see a lot of these candidates saying oh yeah i don't think we should give as much
00:27:02.400 aid to israel and that's of course a very superficial thing to say given that the benefit
00:27:09.440 that we provide to israel is not this pitiful what six billion dollars in aid that's nothing
00:27:14.200 The aid that we give to Israel is to Egypt and to Syria and to Saudi Arabia. We have military bases. We provide security for all these countries. And if you add up all these wars we're doing there, now it's in the trillions of dollars. Who cares about some six billion?
00:27:30.220 It's this functionally, year after year, decade after decade, trillions that we provide to Arab states to basically buy them off to favor Israel, to have these relationships with Israel.
00:27:44.220 So, you know, that big picture means that there's going to be a lot of debate in the GOP of, you know, should we support Israel without any actual question of, well, what are the material interests of Israel?
00:27:54.980 What does Israel need? Do they need these 10,000-pound bombs from us? Do they need the $6 billion a year? Or is it really what Israel needs is they need American troops in Saudi Arabia. They need American bases in Syria because that's what keeps the Arabs compliant and under control so that Israel can do whatever the hell it wants in the West Bank.
00:28:15.680 It can do whatever the hell it wants in Gaza and now southern Lebanon, and the Arabs are going to stay quiet because we are basically occupying their country. 0.58
00:28:26.200 So they say, oh, Israel occupies America.
00:28:29.080 Well, you know, what are they doing with that?
00:28:31.620 They are fueling an American occupation of the Middle East in all of these Arab countries. 0.89
00:28:36.780 And so that's the thing that I think you won't see touched in. 1.00
00:28:40.800 Look forward to 2028.
00:28:42.360 You can see how this prediction works out. 0.99
00:28:45.020 But you'll see a lot of bluster about we're going to decouple from Israel. We can't give Israel another dollar. They're not going to say anything about Saudi Arabia. They're not going to say anything about Syria. They're not going to say anything about the billions we give to Egypt, because that's fundamentally what Israel depends on and needs for its survival and expansion, not the direct aid. It's a smokescreen. 0.98
00:29:07.580 So that's kind of my prediction about where all this is going. I think very few people are going to be watching that because people don't care about substance, they care about style.
00:29:15.900 yeah that's um that's very good stuff i've talked about this before i think i might have even
00:29:22.980 mentioned it with you and i call it uh spencer's law uh i actually took it from a young man named
00:29:32.880 brendan who mentioned it in a q a that we were having a couple of years ago and and that is
00:29:38.840 spencer's law is the most anti-semitic and the most pro-zionist people will vote for the same
00:29:46.080 candidate and it's a contradiction but it is always the case and i we can even extrapolate
00:29:55.200 on this inner contradiction in the sense that yeah i get it nick flint has uh doesn't like trump and
00:30:02.720 is saying i he hopes the gop loses the midterm or whatever but he doesn't like trump in the sense
00:30:08.200 that like there is a hitler yet to come like don't blame me i voted for hitler is what is actually a
00:30:14.700 tagline that he said and there's going to be a true af person emerging maybe it's him who knows
00:30:20.880 but he is connected to trump at the hip that is probably never going to change uh so so are
00:30:30.080 the most hyper zionist people people who think benjamin netanyahu isn't going far enough the
00:30:37.560 Laura Loomer type people who will support troops on the ground, civilization ending
00:30:46.020 bombing campaign over Iran. 0.90
00:30:48.360 They are both Trumpist, and they sort of have this equal claim.
00:30:52.880 And Trump attracted both of these people to him in this inexplicable, seemingly kind of
00:30:59.660 contradictory manner.
00:31:01.420 There's even an aspect of this with Catholicism, where Trump is, you know, according to Tucker Carlson, he's insulting Catholics and insulting Muslims and he's insulting all of these poor little religious believers who see these truth social posts and they're just heartbroken.
00:31:20.420 You know, Trump is Jesus.
00:31:21.680 I thought it was a hilarious post myself, although I guess I'm a bit more irreverent than most.
00:31:28.060 But again, the contradiction is still there. Where are these people coming from? This man who might be the Antichrist, who is insulting the Catholic Church. Where are all of these people coming from and going to? It's Trump.
00:31:45.460 That is that they are. They now have a social media platform like Carrie Projean Bowler precisely because of the age of MAGA. Carrie Projean Bowler as a fire breathing religious fanatic come social media goddess does not exist in the age of Romney or in the age of Obama.
00:32:07.140 She exists in the age of Trump, and yet she hates Trump and how he's insulting her church. Catholics built America and all this kind of stuff. It's this weird kind of thing, and it was what you're getting at as well. 0.97
00:32:21.540 I remember before Max Blumenthal became a Russian agent or whatever he is, he used to do these video essays where he would go to evangelicals and he'd be like, so what happens at the end times?
00:32:35.640 And they would tell stories about, you know, Jesus coming back, like Jews burning and, you know, some converting and some being destroyed and all this kind of thing.
00:32:44.540 And his pitch at that point, this is like circa 2010, was like these like these people are crazy and they are functionally at the very least anti-Semitic because they are fantasizing about the deaths of millions of Jews. 0.93
00:33:03.280 In fact, they are functionally anti-Semitic, regardless of what they say. 0.97
00:33:07.960 Like, watch out, the conservative movement is terrible.
00:33:11.840 And that is true, but that's the contradiction.
00:33:14.900 So many of those people whom he interviewed were, in effect, being funded by Israel, or at the very least, their pastor got flown to Israel on some junket.
00:33:26.540 At the very least, their friends went with Glenn Beck on an Israel tour, all expenses paid type thing. And so there's this way in which Zionism, as you were getting at earlier, needs anti-Semitism. 0.53
00:33:42.740 It functions through anti-Semitism and otherwise doesn't really have a purpose, because if you're just going to be a secular Jew, then you can sort of live anywhere. 0.80
00:33:58.400 But the basis of the Zionist project on multiple levels to it, of course, but one of the key bases of the Zionist project is that we need a safe zone, a place where we can go when the inevitable anti-Semitic pogrom occurs again, and we know it's going to happen. 0.53
00:34:19.960 So it's a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy and I would say virtuous cycle between these types of anti-Semites and the Zionist project.
00:34:31.100 Now, does it end at some point when Carrie Prejean Bowler becomes presidency?
00:34:36.640 Does she like nuke Israel on behalf of the Catholic Church or something?
00:34:41.020 I mean, I seriously doubt that will happen, but maybe it does go too far at some point.
00:34:47.640 but you know again what i see now is like what you were getting at earlier is there's there's a 0.95
00:34:54.700 sort of like stabilizing mechanism coming together we all hate israel so like marjorie taylor green
00:35:03.420 she's kind of cool you're hearing this from like elon omar other some some liberals not all you 0.57
00:35:08.700 know you know uh rightist like hasan piker well at least he calls out the jays you know this kind
00:35:14.820 You see this way where this polarization is, to some degree and maybe in a minor way, being overcome through anti-Semitism.
00:35:25.560 And you also see Israel being, in effect, stabilized by an increase in anti-Semitism.
00:35:33.920 And it seems extremely contradictory. But once you sort of learn and analyze the essence of the phenomenon, it doesn't seem contradictory at all. You need the fuel to run the car. What is the fuel? The fuel is anti-Semitism.