The Religious Origins of the SJW
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In this episode, we discuss the rise of the so-called "Social Justice Warriors" (SJW) and their impact on the culture of the modern left, and the emergence of a new kind of "activism" on the left.
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Donald J. Trump is now President of the United States.
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I am so sorry to my world. I am so sorry to my world.
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SJWism is not simply a variation on liberalism or leftism.
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It's best understood as a replacement religion,
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one that is flourishing in our putatively secular age.
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Traditional religion succeeded in making populations more evolutionarily adaptive,
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more fertile, cooperative, and willing to out-compete others,
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all of which are conceived as the will of the gods.
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SJWism, by contrast, is a death cult that aims to lose.
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Among other effects, the rise of the SJW marks the return of heresy,
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as well as the doling out of quasi-death sentences to those who think evil thoughts.
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One cannot understand current controversies around social media deplatforming and cancel culture
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without inquiring into the evolutionary origins of the SJW religion,
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which undergirds and legitimizes these phenomena.
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In the end, the West's collapse into clown world
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is due to the impact of industrialization on the human environment
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One surprising result is the birth of a new intolerant religion,
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Maybe that's the title of an autobiographical essay I'd write about the last two months.
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That will be the title of some bad novel that will be published if you're not long after.
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Yes. But things are doing well. I'm healthy. I'm glad you're healthy, too.
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I hope our audience is healthy and staying safe.
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You wrote a provocative work that delved into the history of heresy,
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delved into the history of religion and its evolutionary function, you could say.
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And so I think you really deepened our understanding of SJWs.
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I think a lot of people have, you know, tweeted out SJWs is like a religion,
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but to actually understand it properly as such and not just use it as a slogan,
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But before we do that, let's just talk about this new thing
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that seems to be something that's new on the left that didn't quite exist in previous decades
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And that is the burgeoning of woke culture and the social justice warrior
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and the blue-haired feminists screaming at you while you're watching YouTube.
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This kind of thing seemed to exist maybe at universities 20 years ago,
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but it's really been over the course of my adult lifetime that it's come to dominate the left.
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Do you think it, at least ideologically, had its origins in universities?
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Yeah, it's a movement that's primarily associated with the sort of middle class,
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I suppose you'd say, for want of a better term, upper middle class mainly.
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And I think it, and those people tend to dominate at universities.
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And I think it did have its origins at universities.
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Even when I was at university 20 years ago, that woke culture thing,
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I had a friend who I'll talk about in a future essay I'm doing for our group
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who was transsexual, and that was the first time in the year 2001
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And I mentioned to other people this concept that the head of the LGBT society,
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as it was then known, of course, the acronym grows and grows and grows,
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but the LGBT society had used this concept of safe space.
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And all of these concepts were absolutely on the fringes of university life
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University lecturers then would openly say to you,
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If you don't like that, sod off, go somewhere else.
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The purpose of university is not, it's not to say they weren't biased towards the left.
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They were biased towards the left, particularly in humanities departments,
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but they certainly weren't biased to the same extent.
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And there certainly wasn't this woke culture and this anti-free speech culture
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and this kind of dominance at all to the same extent.
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I mean, I remember somebody who's now a member of parliament in the UK, actually,
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writing an article for the student newspaper condemning the LGBT society
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And he talks about how it used to be just about gay people
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and now it's become this crazy, very prescient article
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anti-freedom of expression, anti-freedom of association,
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And the people there, the people that were this minority group
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that were the LGB, were absolutely bonkers about this
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and went to the student union and demanded the newspaper retract the article
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It was gradually replacing what was still there,
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which was that students get involved in communism, basically.
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In the 80s, students would be out campaigning for the minors.
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I remember when I was at the University of Virginia in the year 2000,
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I believe there was a big anti-globalism protest, effectively.
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But I think what's peculiar about it is the moralism aspect of this.
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But it went away from pragmatic demands for working class people
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And it became about getting in the heads and reforming normal people.
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So it's not so much we need to empower the minors
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or we need to empower the Algerians or the illegal immigrants.
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It is that you are evil and you don't even know that you're evil
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It had this moral impulse to it, which really does make it peculiar among the left.
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I don't think you would find that among revolutionary communists.
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They do talk about altering the minds of people.
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They believe that everything is a matter of environment, for a start.
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And so, consequently, they do believe that you can remake man,
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which is empirically inaccurate, but that's one of their dogmas.
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And so they do believe that you can remake man in a different way.
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Where it's changed is the issue that you virtue signal about, if you like.
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When my parents were at university, it was women and it was the working class.
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And so that's when there's a fundamental separation,
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because then you're militating in favour not of people just in your own society
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who are downtrodden, but within your own society.
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You're now on people from other societies, people who have other interests.
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And then, as well, you start militating in favour of people
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that are basically mentally ill and saying who are just abnormal
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and saying that they should be understood to be normal.
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And it goes so far that you start questioning, I mean, even concepts such as truth.
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So you've got this situation where people aren't really even working
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in their own interests because it's such a confused mishmash of things
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that you've got, for example, homosexuals campaigning
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campaigning in favour of fundamentalist Muslims being allowed to come to the country
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So you've got something that you could argue, you could possibly even argue
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that for people that are working class, communism or whatever is an adaptive thing.
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And so it's in their group interests for there to be socialism or to be communism.
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Those that are middle class, it's not in their group interests,
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but it's in their individual interests for there to do those things.
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And once you get to the level of importing entire new countries into Europe,
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the damage to the group interests of these people is so strong.
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Everybody's group interests, everybody, is so strong that you're doing something
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that's maladaptive in a way that I think you could argue that perhaps even communism
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And we had that chap on our show the other day that, I mean, there's a lot of evidence
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for this, that in a lot of ways, okay, communism undermined things that were adaptive,
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but it did so, such as the monarchy, such as religion or whatever.
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But it did so in order for people that weren't at the top of society to get to the top of
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society and thus in an evolutionary context in which being at the top means that that's
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where you get children and your offspring survive.
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And once you get there, then you kind of create your own religion once again, your own
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So you've got something that could be argued even with communism to be adapted, but with
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It's just totally maladaptive to anyone's interest to the extent that you encourage people not
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It's a change that reflects, I suppose, a certain percentage of the society almost going
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mad in a way that they weren't if they wanted to be communist.
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And then that starts to reach a tipping point and spread.
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So that's, I think, the difference between what was going on with my parents or your parents
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And also the, again, before we go into the history of religion and so on, just the moralism
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And again, I don't think that this is totally unusual.
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There's, you know, slogans of eat the rich and obviously revolutionary communist cancel
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people on the most basic of levels in the sense of murder, kind of the ultimate cancellation.
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But this cancel culture of someone expressing something that is not with the times, something
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that might very well have been with the zeitgeist even 10 years ago or so, but something that
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is kind of not going with the flow right now and to destroy his life and livelihood just
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And there's really, it's very difficult to come back after being cancelled by these people.
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It is very much the equivalent of murdering someone for heresy in previous ages.
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And the thing is that the other difference as well, and this is, again, what I mean, that
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This is what I mean, is that when they used to have heresy trials in England, they did everything
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There was a case in England in about 1540 or something, no, 1565, of a guy called John
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And everything was done to persuade him to recant.
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And people were sent to him to prison to try and persuade him to recant.
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And bishops would go, everybody, and he was just utterly obstinate.
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Even when they were about to burn him, he was given a final chance to recant and be untied
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And so that's the difference, in a sense, with heresy.
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You've done this heresy, retract your statement, and in doing so, submit to the dominance of
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Whereas, as far as they're concerned, it doesn't work like that.
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The fact that you've said it, you're not even a heretic.
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So let's talk about your understanding of social justice warriors and how that relates to the
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history of religion and religion's evolutionary function, which I think is often something
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Maybe even particularly religious believers like to think of it as something totally disconnected
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from human evolution and from the pragmatic needs of a people and so on as something that
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But actually, religion does function within the context of group evolution.
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And, you know, let's be frank, the quest for dominance and power and flourishing.
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So we know if we look at what is it that makes something likely to be adaptive?
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Well, the first thing is that it has a reasonable heritability.
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Well, we definitely have that with religiousness.
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So the heritability of there's lots of different traits that make up religiousness, but the heritability
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overall, that means how much of it is genetic, is about 0.4.
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So we can say about 40% of the difference, the variance in religion is to do with genes.
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Real quick, what are you referring to there in terms of taking on the religion of your
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parents or are you talking about religious zealotry or emotional?
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Religious impulses, how strongly do you believe in God?
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Indeed, having had a religious experience was found to be 0.66 heritable in twin studies.
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So the first thing is that it's got a heritability.
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The second thing is that it's associated with mental and physical health.
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Because if it is, then that shows you that it's adaptive and it is associated with mental
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Correlation between religiousness and health is about 0.3.
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Thirdly, are there identifiable parts of the brain that you can stimulate in order to make
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So that demonstrates that it's the case as well.
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Fourthly, and most importantly, is it associated with elevated fertility?
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It's therefore got all of the significant, but strongly so.
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So therefore, it's got all of the key markers that make something, an adaptation, something
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that therefore evolution can work on that's been selected for over time.
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Well, at the individual level, it's also associated with pro-social personalities.
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Well, at the individual level, if you've got this little homunculus on your shoulder telling
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you to be moral and to behave, or telling you that you're, you know, don't worry, it's
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And then you're going to be lower in mental illness, basically, suicidality, things like
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So you're going to be less likely to kill yourself and get too stressed and get ill.
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And you're going to be less likely to get cast out by the band.
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So therefore, and other people will like you and get on with you.
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So it will be selected for the individual level.
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At the sexual level, having a mark, religiousness will become a marker of an insurance policy
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that you're a pro-social person, that you have access to a community that has resources,
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that you get on with people, that you can move up the hierarchy, you can get resources,
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So it's sexually selected for, it means you're a moral person.
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It means you're not going, the woman can trust that you're not going to love her and
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leave her, and the man can trust he's not going to be cuckold.
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And then thirdly, at the group level, there are these computer models and whatever.
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Religiousness is associated with ethnocentrism.
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And ethnocentrism being vicious to the out-group, but cooperative to the in-group is associated
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And also, of course, it inspires the group to believe it's of eternal importance and
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All these ways in which religiousness should be selected for, because we can see that it's
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an adaptation and it evidently is selected for.
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Finish your thought and then I'm going to jump in.
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Under Darwinian conditions, what would happen is that religiousness would become the genetic
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But the collectively worshipping a moral God and so on, or gods, would be the genetic
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And it would be associated with other genetic norms.
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Like what things we have to have children, like fertility, whatever.
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And that's what I think has happened and consistent with that.
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Atheism is associated with the opposite of these things.
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Let me jump in real quick, because when I was a young adult, the big thing on the internet
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And one of their memes was that religious people tend to say that religion can make a bad person
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So someone who is a drug user and down on his luck and his life is going nowhere, he finds
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Christ and then he kind of learns to become a good person.
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And there's obviously a lot of evidence of that that can happen.
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But Hitchens and Dawkins would talk about, no, the power of religion is making a good person
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So the power of religion is turning an otherwise normal human being into someone who's going
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to engage in an inquisition and torture of a heretic, or someone who's going to go to
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war because they think God is on your side, and so on.
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And my take on this, I guess some people might find it a bit amoral, but yes, that is the power
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Dawkins and Hitchens are getting at the power of religion.
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It is to make otherwise normal people do extreme or important things.
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But that's its power, and that's why religious groups will win and dominate, is that you can
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organize a band and say, no, we're not just taking this territory because we need more
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And that ability of religion to give supernatural inspiration to power seekers, and to basically
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say, to have kind of a commander who isn't ordering you and doesn't have a whip in his
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hand, but has a supernatural whip in his hand in order to channel society to dominate others.
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That is the most powerful thing in the universe.
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And so it's kind of like Dawkins and Hitchens are, in a weird way, kind of getting at religion,
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And what they're putting forth is like, we should all be end of history, boring, individualist
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And, you know, look, there's maybe some virtue to that.
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But at the end of the day, it's the societies that feel like they are channeled by a divine
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And when you talk about the end of history, that's a very good point.
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There was an incredible decadence after the Cold War, an incredible sort of arrogance to
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That was an appalling book, The End of History.
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They missed the point completely, which is, yes, it can make people do very, by your
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outsider standard, very good things, very bad things.
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The point of it is to make, is to ensure that the group who is religious dominates.
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And that's what, and there are, there are all kinds of variations in that, but that's
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And so that's why religiousness becomes associated with these, these normal things.
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And it's a bunch, you have a bunch of, a bunch of, of adaptations that are, that are,
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that make up religions, such as pattern over-recognition.
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That's one they tend to see evidence of God everywhere, such as obeying your leader, such
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as group consensus, in-group, out-group attitudes, whatever.
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And they all come together, and this idea of a God being there, that's pattern over-detection
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And so, and they come together and they make this, this highly adaptive thing, which then
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And that's the other marker, of course, that it's something that's adapted, is that you
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There isn't a single social, tribe or whatever that we know of that doesn't have some kind
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And then, of course, the problem comes, what we're seeing, I would suggest, with the SJWs
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is you're seeing a breakdown of normal Darwinian conditions, which has been happening for a
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And that breakdown has then consequences which are bigger than the sum of its parts in terms
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of it then undermines institutions which further uphold those, those Darwinian kind of ways
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And so then you get a complete collapse into just chaos, really.
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And from this, you get the beginnings of a small number of people that have a sort of
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Yeah, let's talk about this, because I think, to go back real quickly to the idea of the end
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of history and so on, I think on one level, the SJW phenomenon is just an excretion of the
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I mean, granted, you know, wages aren't keeping up and so on, but through credit card debt
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And so we need to engage in all this kind of tedious nonsense like gay rights, tranny bullying
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and schools or, or, or, you know, you could take this further, like the left has kind
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And it's just going into these rather mundane and tedious and kind of unimportant things.
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Well, you could argue, yeah, in terms of a kind of pyramid of needs, once one set of
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And something like the rights of minuscule and irrelevant or formerly irrelevant sexual
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minorities would be very, very high up that pyramid of needs and would therefore only become
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relevant in a time of, as you say, total satiation.
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But the problem is that that period, and this is not the first time this has happened, although
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this is the first time in history that this has happened to this extent, that we have
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been this, as you say, satiated to this extent.
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But what happens is that when a society is in decline, and there was a very interesting
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book by Sir John Glove on this, you see the same things again and again, because the
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And therefore you start to see, you start to see people talk, people, first of all, they
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So you see the rise of atheism and of other religious ideas and whatever other than the
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Then you see them questioning the things which are upheld by the religion, and the religion
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tends to uphold patriarchy, because it's patriarchy, it's the group that's more patriarchal,
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that will tend to be the more ethnocentric, positively and negatively, and therefore will tend to dominate
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other groups, because men will be more likely to internally cooperate, i.e. be positively
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ethnocentric if they can be sure that their children are theirs, they won't be fighting over
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So therefore the groups become more patriarchal as they rise.
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As they become satiated, the patriarchy starts being questioned.
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When Baghdad collapsed, you have female lawyers, female judges possibly.
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You had sociosexuality in the collapse of Baghdad, in the collapse of all the people in Rome,
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When they're really rich, they just become materialistic, and they stop thinking of the
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It's just that we reached this greater height, if you think about it, almost like a catapult.
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You know, if the degree to which we developed is the sort of elastic band of the catapult.
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Ours was a much longer elastic band, and it was much, much tighter, and it let go.
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It flew up so much higher, and we have therefore so much farther to fall, so much more quickly.
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But let's go a little bit more into what we could use like a Freudian term, a death instinct
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of the SJW, because it's not just silly leftism.
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Even though I think SJWism, you could kind of combine with a kind of, you know, I think
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it's called, you know, Caviar Gauche, or, you know, the limousine left, or whatever word
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where you have a bunch of, you know, upper class people who don't actually want to change
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the status quo, but just kind of want to take part in their silly little charities and causes
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and so on, that aren't really going to question anything, and certainly not their own wealth
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But I think there's something bigger with SJWs, where they're not just, you know, giving
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money to the humane society, or something like that.
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Something that you could say is a frivolous cause, but it's something that I don't think
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But it's that death instinct, that desire to kind of engage in almost like institutional
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revolution, if this is coming from academia, just to use the power of the institutions in
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order to undermine society, and make our societies clearly less able to flourish and reproduce.
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So I think we should distinguish the SJWs from previous, let's call them replacement religions,
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So something like Christianity has parallels with SJWism in the sense that it starts among
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the middle, the lower class, or actually maybe the middle class, that's where a lot of these
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It starts among the middle class, and it's a way for the middle class to attain power,
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but they virtue signal or whatever, even under the point of death and sacrifice, but they
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And this gives them attention, and it makes them want to be like them, and it kind of
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And it's a way of getting their group, the people that genetically like them, more power,
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And you see the collapse of the old Roman system, and you see the rise of the middle
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You see this as well in the West with Protestantism.
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It's the middle class that was where Protestantism was most developed.
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And these people, through virtue signaling and whatever, overtly being Protestant, gain
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social contacts and whatever, and it helps them to become rich, and they become rich, and
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they gradually start to displace the traditional, more kind of group-selected, more kind of novelist
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And you see this even, and because they've got God on their side, they're more fertile,
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they believe children, everything's to do with God, God's will to have lots of children,
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They end up being more fertile, they end up breeding the people that are higher up
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And it's using these kinds of ideas of looking after the poor, and basically virtue signaling,
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champagne neutralism, shall we call it, in order to attain this status.
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You could argue that was happening in the Roman Empire with Christianity, you could argue
00:30:12.040
This is a bit different, because it's fundamentally destructive to humanity.
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And in the whole history of mankind, it's been very, very rare.
00:30:26.760
I mean, in the early church, you had Gnostic groups that regarded the world as an utterly
00:30:30.760
appalling place, the province is the devil, we shouldn't have children.
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And those people, of course, were just dismissed as completely mad, because they were a tiny
00:30:41.020
minority of society, and society itself was so adaptive and had institutions to make it
00:30:47.320
There were so few people like them that they weren't able to reach the tipping point, which
00:30:51.680
is about 20% of people thinking like that, for other people to start to join their group,
00:30:57.500
which we know from psychological experiments happens.
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Whereas SJ Dunbaruism, that's the uniqueness of it, is that we've never got to a point before
00:31:06.000
where they've been able to get this much influence.
00:31:08.240
You've had nutty groups that are anti-capitalist and anti-life before, but the nature of the
00:31:14.760
society, society is so genetically wholesome, if you like, that they haven't been able to
00:31:22.220
And I put it down to, as I discussed before, that with the collapse of Darwinians, under
00:31:25.760
Darwinian conditions, you have 50% or so child mortality, 90% of people that were born
00:31:34.880
And it's been shown for a, because 50% child mortality, 20% don't have kids, don't marry,
00:31:41.220
whatever, ugly or poor, and 20% that watched all their kids die before they do.
00:31:47.440
So consequently, 90% of people effectively don't pass on their genes.
00:31:52.720
These are the most healthy and adapted people to these Darwinian conditions that we were
00:32:02.500
Child mortality collapses from 50% down to currently, it's about 1%, possibly even a bit
00:32:09.260
And there is a relationship, a significant relationship between the mind and the body
00:32:17.200
So what was happening every generation was that these sick children would die out before
00:32:27.500
If you've got high mutational load of the body, you'll definitely have it of the mind,
00:32:30.280
because the mind is 84%, perhaps, of the genome.
00:32:35.880
And so with the collapse of child mortality due to a bit of medical innovations and better
00:32:42.500
standards of living, you then have more and more of these people that have these maladaptive
00:32:48.400
of them securely rising, depression, schizophrenia, autism, lots of other of these traits.
00:32:55.040
And these are associated with SJW, particularly depression, particularly, with SJW ways of thinking.
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There was a study that was published the other day, or some data that was analysed the other
00:33:09.920
day, which found that 56% of females in America who regard themselves as liberal at age 18 to
00:33:15.280
29 have been diagnosed with a mental illness by a doctor, which is overwhelmingly depression.
00:33:20.920
And so they have these maladaptive ways of thinking, which would have been washed out,
00:33:25.680
purged under the previous Darwinian conditions, such as that you should put the good of other
00:33:30.920
people's families before your own, other ethnic groups before your own, that you shouldn't
00:33:35.960
have children, that you should behave like a man, that you are a man.
00:33:40.780
And all of this just genetic garbage, I mean, these maladaptive mutant genes that would have
00:33:51.100
But you get these people, my colleague Michael Woodley calls them spiteful mutants, because
00:33:58.280
We are such a eusocial species that we are strongly influenced by all those that are around
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And this is why if someone that you're with a lot is maladaptive, this will make you maladaptive.
00:34:12.560
For example, depression is contagious in that way.
00:34:15.900
And so, therefore, these spiteful mutants start to undermine these structures we've developed,
00:34:23.820
It makes that which is adaptive and it makes it the will of God, so you're more likely to
00:34:29.440
Take away religion, undermine it, destroy it, then you're less likely to do these adaptive things.
00:34:35.060
Um, you're less likely to be ethnocentric because religion tells you to be ethnocentric.
00:34:39.140
So you have this whole house of cards that can be brought down by large and large numbers
00:34:47.420
And when those people become too high a number, then, of course, they have a power to them
00:34:58.700
And this is what's happened in the last 20 years.
00:35:00.420
They've gone from being nutcases on the borders of normal discourse to being a tipping point
00:35:07.540
of, let's say, 20% on university campuses that openly think like this.
00:35:16.360
So we've basically got, for the first time in history, a death cult that has serious power
00:35:24.520
And this, this might very well be unprecedented because not that death cults, literal and
00:35:32.720
figurative didn't exist, you know, throughout history, they, they obviously have.
00:35:37.680
But if the spiteful mutant really is a new phenomenon, it is an end of history phenomenon.
00:35:46.160
A spiteful mutant would, at least, you know, a class of them would not exist previously just
00:35:53.920
simply due to child mortality and, and, and the dangers of, of being alive in, in ages
00:36:02.340
So this, this might very well be something totally new in human evolution.
00:36:07.680
I mean, we were talking earlier about my book, uh, which is feminism and the fall of the
00:36:12.040
And in that, I look at the way that which hasn't been published yet, by the way.
00:36:16.020
So just for our listeners, uh, yes, you'll be able to buy it soon, but not, yes, yes.
00:36:22.240
And look, that book, which I'm currently working on.
00:36:24.540
So I look at the way that which is in many ways spiteful mutants.
00:36:30.420
They were, they were by virtue of being single women that were able to make money and whatever
00:36:34.260
they were, they were undermining the patriarchy.
00:36:36.520
Secondly, they were often quite nasty people that would go around cursing people and being
00:36:51.560
Imagine trying to do your farming and there's all these people on troops talking about like
00:36:57.920
So they were the spiteful mutants of their time, but they were a tiny, tiny minority and
00:37:03.100
the vast majority of the people were highly genetically adapted anyway, including even
00:37:10.080
And so consequently, they had no space to, to, to have any, any impact at all on the
00:37:15.700
The, the, the institutions of society to upheld adaptive behavior, religion, were robust.
00:37:21.620
And if people like that manifested and managed to live into adulthood, they would, and they
00:37:25.380
behaved like that, they'd track them down and remove them.
00:37:28.880
So, so with these new spiteful mutants, you, it's those, it's, it's those people, but magnified
00:37:35.700
God knows how many times, because they're way more maladaptive than these witches.
00:37:42.300
A, because they tend to manifest at the top of society rather than the bottom.
00:37:46.520
So they have more influence for that reason, because Darwinian conditions are harshest at
00:37:55.100
And the, and therefore evolution collapsed first at the top of society.
00:37:59.240
So you'd expect the buildup to be more in a sense, in some ways at the top.
00:38:06.600
It's, it's, it's, it's maladaptive things that would never, ever have come across, come
00:38:10.560
have been manifested to anything before, such as antinatalism, such as actually thinking
00:38:18.540
And that's happening to a society, which is itself maladaptive, which is itself not as
00:38:23.360
robust mentally, psychologically as the society of 400, 500 years ago.
00:38:27.780
Um, and it's a society in which therefore they are able, therefore it's less, it's less,
00:38:32.700
it puts a front and therefore they're better able to undermine its institutions and spread
00:38:37.460
So yeah, and that's, it's a complete new thing because we've never been this, had
00:38:42.200
a mutational load as a people that's this high.
00:38:48.080
Well, like the Mike experiment, like that, like that experiment where it took away.
00:38:53.440
I know what you're talking about, but explain that for our listeners.
00:38:55.640
In 1967 or something it was in the university of Maryland and John Calhoun and he set up
00:39:00.920
a utopia for mice, took away predation, selected them for illness, made sure they were all gently
00:39:05.480
stiff and whatever, made sure there were no parasites.
00:39:10.260
What you have is exactly what's happened to us.
00:39:11.980
So first of all, the population spikes up huge growth because there's no infant mortality
00:39:19.940
As you see with us, then the growth starts to fall.
00:39:24.320
They're not having as many babies as they used to have.
00:39:26.540
And when that was noticed, it was noticed that there were these interesting changes.
00:39:32.820
They were throwing their offspring out of the nest too young so that the offspring weren't
00:39:37.320
That could be akin to the undermining of, you know, institutions that are useful, religiousness
00:39:42.860
And then you've got more and more of these males that were these just these autistic
00:39:46.260
weirdos that were effeminate and didn't do anything and didn't fight for territory and
00:39:50.040
didn't do anything other than sort of lick each other and drink water.
00:39:55.840
And then eventually, so you've got more and more females that then weren't interested in
00:39:59.960
And then those that were had to pest them for sex and they weren't interested.
00:40:05.980
And so eventually, you had a situation where all the males were these beautiful ones.
00:40:08.680
All the females were these butch, lesbianicious weirdos.
00:40:12.580
And and and then eventually they had no more children.
00:40:18.140
And that's what that won't happen to us because we are our own John Calhoun.
00:40:22.280
We are our own scientists upholding our society.
00:40:25.620
And so our civilization will go backwards and then evolutionary conditions will be reimposed.