RadixJournal - The Right Stuff

00:00:00.000 Have you guys seen or heard of this new dating website called The Right Stuff?

00:00:06.600 I saw a tweet about it, but I haven't really gotten into that.

00:00:10.980 The only thing that kind of reminds me that they might have some copyright problems with one particular podcast.

00:00:21.560 Maybe.

00:00:22.660 Maybe.

00:00:23.260 It is interesting because it's like, you know, The Right Stuff podcasters, when they say The Right Stuff, what do you think they're referring to?

00:00:35.140 I mean, it seems like this is all right-wing stuff, you know, like a smorgasbord of the far right.

00:00:46.060 That seems to be the connotation.

00:00:49.560 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:00:50.240 But The Right Stuff is a famous book by Tom Wolfe.

00:00:55.440 Yeah, in the movie, too.

00:00:56.740 One of my favorites, actually.

00:00:59.080 Yeah.

00:00:59.920 And it's so, it has a, it does have a kind of eugenic connotation.

00:01:07.620 You know, and I'm sure the phrase The Right Stuff long predates that book.

00:01:11.380 I'm all positive of that.

00:01:13.200 But it, you know, it does have a kind of eugenic quality to it.

00:01:18.860 Like, are you the type of person who can fly a plane past the sound barrier?

00:01:24.420 Are you the kind of person who could walk on the moon?

00:01:27.200 You know, are you smart enough?

00:01:28.420 Are you athletic enough?

00:01:29.480 Do you have lung capacity and bravery and all sorts of things?

00:01:33.420 Like, do you have The Right Stuff?

00:01:34.400 So it does have a kind of eugenic component.

00:01:36.340 And I think, you know, the curious thing about dating sites is that there is a eugenic quality

00:01:44.840 to them.

00:01:45.900 And, you know, and I'm not saying that there isn't also a, maybe not disgenic, but just 0.99

00:01:56.280 radically degenerate quality to online dating.

00:02:00.480 I mean, the, I think this was always present to a degree because they've always had websites

00:02:07.200 that are basically hookup websites.

00:02:10.240 I remember on, I don't know if people still use Craigslist at this point, but I remember

00:02:15.780 on Craigslist, which, you know, 10 or 15 years ago was really actively used for all sorts

00:02:24.060 of things for finding a roommate, for giving away old furniture, for maybe even buying a

00:02:30.740 used car and all sorts of things.

00:02:32.940 And then there was also this, like, there was one section, which I think was highly romantic

00:02:38.860 and it was like missed, I forgot what it was called.

00:02:45.120 It was like missed opportunities or like something like that.

00:02:49.300 And it would be people who would offer these, you know, very soul-wrenching and, you know,

00:02:56.080 titles of like, you know, I saw you on the subway, you know, just south of 42nd Street.

00:03:02.400 It's like, we made eye contact and you left the train.

00:03:05.320 Like, please contact me.

00:03:09.240 But then there was also one in there called Casual Encounters, which was basically like the

00:03:15.520 most crude thing you could imagine. 0.99

00:03:17.360 You know, hey, I'm up for a fuck. 1.00

00:03:21.620 Why don't you come over? 1.00

00:03:22.660 I mean, literally that, you know, squalid.

00:03:26.960 And so I think this whole aspect of like hookup culture is a long range thing.

00:03:37.000 Obviously, there's nothing new under the sun.

00:03:39.160 People are fallen creatures.

00:03:41.740 And so a lot of tender is just that of, you know, the 80-20 rule in effect where if you're

00:03:54.300 tall and cool and handsome and whatever, there probably are plenty of girls. 1.00

00:04:02.620 If you're in a big city, there probably are just plenty of girls that you can just, you know, 1.00

00:04:07.180 contact and hook up with.

00:04:10.100 And this is possibly eugenic, you could say, in the sense that the 80-20 rule is in effect.

00:04:19.460 So basically, or it might not even be 80-20, it might be 98-2.

00:04:25.240 So the top guys are getting all the girls and, you know, 80% of the guys, maybe even 98% of

00:04:36.440 the guys are getting nothing.

00:04:37.740 It's almost like a version of polygamy that has been reinstituted into the world through 0.66

00:04:44.300 these dating apps.

00:04:45.360 And, you know, that's interesting.

00:04:49.740 You know, the hookup culture is possibly kind of eugenic, although I seriously doubt it.

00:04:54.880 There's probably a lot of contraception and abortion going on. 1.00

00:04:58.040 It's probably just generally bad.

00:05:00.400 But that's not all that Tinder or Bumble are.

00:05:06.540 And there are lots of other sites like this.

00:05:08.380 I mean, it is about selection.

00:05:10.840 And even though it is geographically based to some extent, it is about a kind of selection

00:05:18.760 process going on that happens at first glance, because it's a swipe thing.

00:05:25.920 But it's not just based on geography or location, although it is based on that to some extent.

00:05:33.540 And I think there's something fascinating occurring in the world now that we're 20 years into online

00:05:42.480 dating in the sense that traditionally you would marry your high school sweetheart.

00:05:52.460 I would imagine the workplace was a location where you would frequently meet your mate.

00:06:01.620 Certainly your town or city.

00:06:06.240 Meeting people at bars was a classic thing.

00:06:10.420 That's why people went to these things in the first place, not just to drink.

00:06:15.120 And that's being changed.

00:06:17.400 And so there were some of these sites that came up originally, like Match.com and OkCupid and even eHarmony.

00:06:27.080 There was this kind of eugenic quality to them in the sense that you would list your education.

00:06:36.580 And you still do that on Tinder.

00:06:39.080 You list your college, which is, particularly in the United States, a real sign of something.

00:06:46.280 Or your employer.

00:06:47.560 Like I work at this big corporation that everyone's heard of. 0.96

00:06:50.980 So I'm climbing the ladder and I have my shit together and so on.

00:06:57.160 And so we're increasingly meeting people in that way and not just purely due to the accident of birth and in the sense of geography. 0.97

00:07:10.120 I think college was huge in this as well.

00:07:14.880 So many people would marry someone, not just their high school sweetheart, but someone they met at college.

00:07:20.800 So they met them as they were kind of coming into their own, becoming an adult, thinking about what they want to do in the world and so on.

00:07:27.920 Bill and Hillary Clinton, for instance, met at Yale.

00:07:31.520 I believe they met at Yale Law School.

00:07:33.640 That is significant.

00:07:34.900 You have two very ambitious people from different parts of the country finding each other in mutual ambition, most likely.

00:07:47.120 And it ultimately does change who we are as a race.

00:07:52.360 And I think even tender, although I, of course, admit that it's most, you know, 60% about debauchery, even tender is part of that process.

00:08:09.220 You're not settling anymore and you're not having a match made by, say, your aunt or grandmother.

00:08:17.420 You're actually choosing people and so much of it is just going purely on like immediate data.

00:08:25.080 How tall are you?

00:08:26.460 Where did you go to college?

00:08:27.720 What corporation do you work for?

00:08:29.740 Are you handsome or beautiful?

00:08:31.880 You're making a kind of instant decision based on like three data points.

00:08:36.100 But you're making that decision.

00:08:39.100 And I do think that it is changing who we are going to become for better and for worse, much like the incel phenomenon is changing who will be born and in other ways who will be selected in the future.

00:08:56.140 So when these incels whine about like, you know, women should be in barefoot in the kitchen or they or even more so they should be put into cages or whatever the hell they talk about. 1.00

00:09:09.160 But they are, they have a genuine lament in the sense that the, you know, universal middle-class monogamy enforced through peer pressure.

00:09:23.760 You know, if you were a single mother 60 years ago, that might be really detrimental to your life and career.

00:09:32.820 I mean, you would be shunned in many cases, maybe not in a big city, but certainly in most small towns.

00:09:41.240 So this universally enforced monogamy was a, it was, it's socially constructed and it is political even.

00:09:51.040 It's certainly constructed through tax incentives and some other things, but it was a, a, a social contract that ultimately

00:10:02.520 was highly beneficial for people who aren't that great. 0.97

00:10:09.520 Even if you are a bit of a loser or you're ugly or you are, or you're not terribly bright, you still get a piece of the pie. 1.00

00:10:21.440 In other words, you'll still have a woman that you can regularly have sex with. 1.00

00:10:29.120 You can have children, she'll help out and so on.

00:10:32.920 It was a kind of social bargain that was ultimately egalitarian and was beneficial to these people.

00:10:41.920 And, you know, a lot of people say, and I've heard this of like, you know, as nature decided, you know, man and woman,

00:10:49.820 because we have been generally speaking, an even number of men and women.

00:10:55.280 Well, that's not exactly true.

00:10:57.420 And there's some interesting exceptions to that rule, but the law of nature, which should be distinguished from so-called natural law,

00:11:07.820 which is a fundamentally Christian or I guess platonic on some level concept is not that one man gets one woman and it's all even more or less.

00:11:20.120 The law of nature is that 90% of the population doesn't reproduce and two, maybe 25% of the men get all of the women. 0.94

00:11:36.300 And it is hotly eugenic in the sense that it is brutal.

00:11:43.600 And once you men fight to demonstrate strength and genetic inheritance, they grow antlers, they grow peacock's tails, they rams slam into each other.

00:12:01.180 And this has been going on since the age of the dinosaurs.

00:12:04.180 And so the law of nature is not really about monogamy.

00:12:12.580 Monogamy is socially constructed.

00:12:14.660 It does bring a level of fairness to society and it lets everyone kind of be invested in it.

00:12:24.140 But I guess what I would say from my standpoint is that this is, we are moving away from this due to a number of factors of sexual revolution, technology.

00:12:36.700 I mean, I'm kind of, what spurred me to talk about this was this dating app and a whole host of other factors.

00:12:43.740 We are moving away from it.

00:12:45.460 And, you know, it's, I think we, many conservatives can rightly lament the decline of this or call for greater monogamy or greater religiosity or so on.

00:12:58.940 But that is a bit like trying to empty the ocean with a thimble.

00:13:05.600 You're going to be overwhelmed by these bigger factors.

00:13:09.280 So I think it might be more useful to look at, you know, what is really happening in this?

00:13:15.240 Are there, are there, is there a kind of silver lining to what is occurring?

00:13:21.340 Might there be a kind of brutal eugenic quality that reenters the world due to all of these things?

00:13:30.320 And I do think the answer is yes.

00:13:33.680 And so I'm trying to be value neutral on this matter.

00:13:40.040 I understand why this stuff is pretty heinous.

00:13:43.600 And I understand the pain of the incel on some level, but it is what it is.

00:13:53.080 In terms of the right stuff, it also is not entirely new in terms of a conservative-focused dating app.

00:14:03.840 I've heard of, you know, Christian mingle, and I've never been on there, not surprisingly, I guess.

00:14:16.700 But I think that was very popular.

00:14:18.840 And no, that wasn't politically based.

00:14:20.960 It wasn't, we're right wing.

00:14:23.480 It probably had that quality to it.

00:14:26.860 But I don't think I'm wrong to suggest that 80% of the people on there were Republicans.

00:14:34.000 And I think it was also highly evangelical.

00:14:37.780 Also, there was a time, I remember about 20 years ago, when Bill Regnery, in one of his many, you know, projects that he throws out there and then doesn't fund, had this idea of white date or something like that.

00:14:58.780 And it was dead in the water, and I think mostly because no one actually put money behind this.

00:15:05.120 The right stuff apparently has a million or two from Peter Thiel.

00:15:09.500 I'm sure there are other people, like Thiel, who have thrown into this.

00:15:14.380 They might just simply do, I mean, a million dollars doesn't mean much to Thiel.

00:15:17.380 I think they might do it just to kind of, you know, stay in the conservative good graces.

00:15:22.060 They might actually have a kind of ulterior, deeper motive to this.

00:15:27.000 And I think it's interesting to look into that.

00:15:30.700 But it's not entirely new, although it is fairly new in the sense of it's strictly conservative or right wing.

00:15:37.860 It does have a kind of overwhelmingly white quality.

00:15:41.840 Can you guys see the pictures I'm putting up there?

00:15:45.520 I'm sharing them with you.

00:15:48.720 Yeah, I can see that.

00:15:49.840 Yeah, in the opening, when you, so I downloaded the app.

00:15:53.840 I'm not on it because it's invite only.

00:15:57.880 I think they're doing this, I think they're doing this specifically because they're building up the site and they don't want to be overwhelmed with guests.

00:16:08.420 And they also probably imagine as well that some, you know, asshole leftists are going to try to, you know, do a DDoS attack or something like that.

00:16:20.700 So they're, they're kind of doing invite only. 0.88

00:16:23.200 So I have not been invited.

00:16:25.780 And no one I know is on there.

00:16:28.260 But anyway, it was remarkably white in terms of the opening little video that they had.

00:16:37.800 I actually don't think there was an exception.

00:16:39.920 They did do another promotional video that I think a lot of the dissident right incels are reacting to because there's a girl who's kind of, you know, the funny fat chick wearing a leopard skin shirt showing off her cleavage who says she loves alpha males and so on. 0.99

00:17:01.340 And then they were reacting to this in the way that they do, you know, back to the cage with you woman, which I think is actually very stupid. 0.98

00:17:11.500 But anyway, it is interesting. 0.98

00:17:16.040 There's just some like little, like, I don't know.

00:17:20.280 There's, there's a kind of subtle implied quality to a lot of this.

00:17:24.940 So what sex are you? 0.70

00:17:26.060 There are two sexes. 0.58

00:17:27.100 Um, and then when you actually click on it, it says this can't be changed later.

00:17:33.000 So you cannot change your sex. 0.95

00:17:35.820 Maybe even the fact that they use the word sex is interesting as well.

00:17:39.780 Anyway, um, these are just little things.

00:17:42.380 Uh, how tall are you?

00:17:43.480 I did fill out a profile, but I'm not on because I've not been invited.

00:17:47.220 Um, what are your ideals plans for children?

00:17:50.840 Want kids?

00:17:51.640 Open to kids.

00:17:52.340 I have kids.

00:17:53.040 Not sure yet.

00:17:54.840 Uh, kind of interesting.

00:17:57.100 Um, it does seem to have a little bit of a fertility bent. 0.87

00:18:01.600 There's no option for, I don't want kids.

00:18:05.940 Uh, on tender.

00:18:08.500 There is, um, your religious beliefs.

00:18:12.280 I found this particularly interesting.

00:18:13.840 So, um, what are your religious beliefs?

00:18:16.440 And I guess these are, yeah, these are an alphabetical order.

00:18:19.980 So Buddhist, Catholic, Christian, are they implying that Catholics aren't Christians?

00:18:27.100 Uh, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, spiritual, non-practicing. 1.00

00:18:34.180 So there is no option for atheists. 0.99

00:18:36.780 And obviously atheism is, you know, highly correlated with being liberal, but it's not, certainly not the case that all atheists are, uh, liberal.

00:18:53.540 There are actually many atheists that are pretty right-winged, in fact.

00:18:59.400 And, uh, they're vocal about it.

00:19:01.600 But anyway, it's just interesting that I guess spiritual is the most hippy-dippy thing that you can be.

00:19:10.740 Um, and, uh, non-practicing, I guess that means you're kind of elapsed, but, uh, there is no atheist.

00:19:18.760 Then the rest of it are pretty normal things, like your date, and then, uh, date of birth, that is.

00:19:23.140 And then, uh, you fill out a profile that looks exactly like Tinder.

00:19:27.020 Again, I'm not on it, but I assume that it is, uh, a swipe app.

00:19:32.660 I assume they're just reproducing the technology.

00:19:35.440 So they're kind of reinventing the wheel.

00:19:37.420 It does beg the question of why are you doing this?

00:19:41.220 In the sense that you can have a Tinder profile that says, you know, MAGA forever, no liberals allowed or whatever.

00:19:47.760 Or you could have a Tinder profile that says, um, you know, Biden 2024, no Trumpers.

00:19:54.960 Or like, that's very easy.

00:19:56.440 And that's an easy way of selecting that.

00:19:58.900 I doubt they're going to, I know they're not going to kick you off the site for that.

00:20:03.400 Um, Tinder has banned a lot of conservatives I've seen.

00:20:07.460 Uh, but, um, it's just interesting in terms of like, you know, what to make of this on one hand.

00:20:15.280 Hey, Zeus, stop.

00:20:17.560 Come here, Zeus.

00:20:18.700 Sorry, my dog is doing his usual barking to enter the conversation.

00:20:22.720 He's mad about this.

00:20:24.300 Um, you could say that this is just simply reinventing the wheel.

00:20:29.780 They've come up with another dating site for conservatives and they're going to try to make

00:20:34.940 money off it.

00:20:35.600 And this will be a lot like truth social.

00:20:37.700 It will have its fans, but kind of putter out.

00:20:40.440 It's better to have an all encompassing platform than to have a niche platform.

00:20:47.380 Uh, gab, whatever you want to say about it.

00:20:51.400 I was actually fairly, um, or really in fact, sympathetic and enthusiastic about gab in 2016

00:21:00.020 or 17 when it was first launched, because there were these waves of deplatforming from Twitter,

00:21:05.760 including myself for a month, uh, right after Trump won the election.

00:21:10.000 And I was thinking, wow, you know, um, they're, they're going to offer this like free speech

00:21:15.820 place.

00:21:16.140 So there's always someplace to go.

00:21:17.520 I thought it was very, a very good thing.

00:21:20.200 Um, very shortly after that, I did not like the site.

00:21:26.620 I stopped using it.

00:21:28.240 I actually deleted my account at one point and, uh, it just became a cesspool and hive of

00:21:35.720 right-wing crankery.

00:21:38.180 And it was most notable for, um, someone who attacked a, uh, temple, a Jewish temple, um,

00:21:48.680 a synagogue, uh, for announcing his plans on the platform.

00:21:53.940 It just, you know, it's just awful. 0.92

00:21:56.520 And then Andrew Torba is, is a maniac kind of Christian nationalist type. 0.59

00:22:01.280 It just, um, and a very uninteresting one, I would add.

00:22:05.280 Uh, but it just, you know, you want to be on a, on a platform where you can possibly interact

00:22:13.460 with everyone and speak your mind.

00:22:18.560 I mean, this is why I actually want there to be monopolies.

00:22:23.760 In fact, in platforming, I don't buy any of this, you know, we need to tear it all down

00:22:28.460 and have let a thousand flowers bloom.

00:22:30.120 I think it's much better for there to be one central monopoly for the world.

00:22:34.060 So that there, you are playing in their garden.

00:22:38.960 You are, you're playing on their ball field, whatever metaphor you want, you are speaking

00:22:44.640 to the world and you're not just in this weird echo chamber and, you know, kind of barnyard

00:22:54.060 for malcontents.

00:22:55.100 Um, and there are obviously a whole ton of bad incentives to being in an echo chamber.

00:23:02.560 It may, it turns you into your worst, the worst version of yourself.

00:23:07.100 I guarantee it.

00:23:08.300 Uh, it's good to have some feedback and to basically, you know, tweet as if you were talking 0.89

00:23:14.480 to the world and not just some crazy lunatics.

00:23:18.520 Um, but where was I going with this? 0.87

00:23:22.000 Oh, so on some level, the conservatives are doing the, this is true social or getter or

00:23:29.960 gab or whatever.

00:23:31.740 They're just reinventing the wheel, but not doing it as well.

00:23:35.380 And showing no creativity, just simply trying to find a niche, you know, it's almost as if

00:23:44.660 they want to say, oh, this is not, this is not Coca-Cola.

00:23:48.820 You know, this is Cola Coke only for conservatives.

00:23:53.740 It has the exact same ingredients, but you know, this is made for you.

00:23:57.800 This is the right stuff. 0.98

00:23:58.800 It's just ridiculous on some level. 0.86

00:24:01.320 It's, it shows no entrepreneurial creativity whatsoever.

00:24:04.880 It's simply a way to kind of cash in on a niche and true social from what I understand

00:24:09.620 is failing.

00:24:10.860 Getter goes nowhere.

00:24:12.740 Uh, it's technology that was created by that very strange Chinese, um, expat felon who supports, 1.00

00:24:20.660 um, Steve Bannon anyway.

00:24:24.240 But might there be something kind of deeper going on here beyond the superficial qualities?

00:24:33.060 So, uh, I would ask, uh, what was, what would be the main drawing point, uh, of the SAP?

00:24:38.800 Because, uh, for truth social, it's of course the presence of Donald Trump there.

00:24:44.880 That's where people go to read his truths or his tweets.

00:24:48.480 It's, it's not like you have, uh, Ivanka or Trump's other daughter on this app that you

00:24:54.560 might have a chance to meet her through this app.

00:24:57.220 That would make me.

00:24:58.240 Well, I've heard the rumor that you're dating Tiffany.

00:25:01.120 So, I mean, I've just, it's just a rumor at this point, so I can't confirm, but I will

00:25:05.100 repeat it.

00:25:05.900 Yeah.

00:25:06.840 And, uh, can it be just another sort of a cash grab by the conservative movement, or does

00:25:13.920 this really play into the, uh, polarization in America, uh, because there's needs to be

00:25:20.960 like a separate platform for conservatives about anything.

00:25:24.880 Like you need, they need to have their own Twitter.

00:25:27.700 That's like true social.

00:25:29.260 Now they have their own Tinder.

00:25:30.560 Maybe they'll have their own streaming service.

00:25:33.480 You know, Ben Shapiro has his, uh, movie production company or something like that.

00:25:38.280 I think it's just, uh, it's sort of, sort of plays into this trend of polarization, but

00:25:43.900 then again, uh, I never, I've never really found that dating would be, uh, could be politicized

00:25:50.820 in this way.

00:25:51.560 Um, uh, and the friends who are on Tinder, who are, let's say right wing leaning, they don't

00:25:58.840 have a problem dating a leftist chick.

00:26:01.720 Yeah.

00:26:02.620 Don't you want to date?

00:26:04.060 And they're even serious, serious relationships with people that have different political

00:26:09.960 opinions, but, uh, I think it's just, um, and I looked at that promotional video.

00:26:15.940 Um, I don't really, well, that's a matter of taste, I think, but, uh, I don't really find

00:26:22.480 that type of women who are in that ad attracted to sort of look like this Kellyanne Conway or, 0.91

00:26:30.600 uh, or, or, or, or that type of women. 1.00

00:26:33.600 Um, yeah, they're really, they're looking really boring, maybe stupid too, but, uh, I don't 1.00

00:26:40.760 know. 0.99

00:26:41.560 Yeah, I, I totally agree.

00:26:43.860 I was not all of those women there.

00:26:46.280 I was not excited to meet with maybe the exception of the fat chick, you know, after 11 at the 0.80

00:26:52.800 local bar.

00:26:53.920 Oh yeah.

00:26:56.260 So, yeah.

00:26:57.700 I mean, where I'm going with this in terms of depth is, you know, polarization occurs

00:27:05.580 across the Western world.

00:27:07.060 It is hyper, uh, we are hyper polarized in the United States, but I mean, you could probably

00:27:12.800 attest, I mean, there, even in a country like Finland, I would imagine there's a kind

00:27:19.080 of creeping polarization that isn't as powerful as it is here due to, due to the obvious reasons.

00:27:26.500 Um, but it's there.

00:27:28.560 This, this seems to be the broad direction where we are going as a society.

00:27:34.960 As a race.

00:27:36.380 There's some interesting polling data that I, I think I've mentioned on other calls.

00:27:41.480 So previously, uh, in, in the Pew research has asked this question and it's very interesting.

00:27:49.780 It's very controversial question, but like, what would you think if your daughter married

00:27:54.520 or was dating someone of another race or your son?

00:27:58.300 And they, you would get very strong reactions throughout the 20th century.

00:28:04.220 And by the 1990s, those reactions were lessening.

00:28:10.600 Now, of course, you, you know, it's important to remember what someone says to a pollster is

00:28:16.540 not necessarily what they believe.

00:28:18.940 And so there's a, there's a kind of another level of that.

00:28:21.660 You, you could also say that by the 1990s, fewer people were willing to acknowledge a sort

00:28:29.360 of tribalism, uh, and they might add, you know, what they actually feel on the inside

00:28:35.660 is another question.

00:28:37.780 Uh, but it's kind of like the polling question from 15 years ago of, do you think America

00:28:44.000 is ready for a black president?

00:28:45.860 So it was about other people and not you.

00:28:48.360 And people supposedly would answer more honestly about their own preference.

00:28:53.100 You know, they, oh, I just don't think other people are ready for Barack Obama.

00:28:56.480 You know, I mean, me, uh, of course, you know, I'm, uh, purely egalitarian, but other people,

00:29:01.900 you know, it's a way of kind of ferreting out the truth through the question.

00:29:06.260 But anyway, basically at this point, people are, they, as they express themselves, they

00:29:13.960 are much, uh, more worried about their daughter dating someone of another political party than

00:29:21.860 they are their daughter dating someone of another race.

00:29:24.400 And this is particularly intense among conservatives.

00:29:29.320 And I would imagine that it's particularly intense among conservative men.

00:29:33.820 So these right-wing MAGA types, you know, if you bring home a black guy with a red cap

00:29:40.200 and who's, you know, votes for DeSantis or whatever, he's A-OK.

00:29:43.520 Uh, but, you know, don't you dare bring in some Yale graduate who's liberal and loosey-goosey

00:29:51.880 and reading marks on the side, you know, that's intolerable.

00:29:55.220 Now, again, whether that's really true or not is questionable, but that is how they express

00:30:03.020 themselves to pollsters.

00:30:05.140 And I actually think it is largely true.

00:30:08.640 And so what we're seeing is like polarization is so deep and something like the right stuff

00:30:17.060 to the degree that it's successful, it just continues this issue.

00:30:22.540 Polarization is so deep that it is, it is affecting selection.

00:30:27.040 So conservatives are breeding with other conservatives and liberals are breeding with liberals and

00:30:36.740 that will clearly affect where we are and going down the road.

00:30:43.740 And there is a, so there's a kind of sifting process.

00:30:46.640 And, you know, I don't, again, I, I certainly don't think that someone's political ideology

00:30:54.160 is like purely genetic or something, but, um, I do think that people are kind of prone to

00:31:02.840 these things and it's probably around 50, 50.

00:31:07.860 I think that's a reasonable guess that 50% is kind of environmental or due to chance.

00:31:15.100 Uh, and 50% is visceral or genetic.

00:31:20.380 So I, I read a lot of the left, I, I'm, but, you know, it's hard for me to imagine myself

00:31:26.120 in any circumstance really kind of like going along with their stuff, you know, or, or being

00:31:34.740 fighting for the rights of the, of the poor and India or something.

00:31:41.100 It's just not my bag.

00:31:43.960 And it, there is a visceral, most likely genetic quality that breeds for conservatism.

00:31:51.480 There's an, also a question, uh, about this, uh, conservative dating app.

00:31:55.680 Uh, what would be the, uh, sex or gender distribution?

00:31:59.880 Uh, I would imagine that there would be more men who would be using this app and that there

00:32:05.220 would, uh, the, the number of women would be lower and also, uh, the age, um, I would 0.98

00:32:11.760 imagine that it's more tended towards, uh, older people, like maybe people who are over

00:32:18.720 30 or maybe in their forties, something like that.

00:32:21.840 So I don't really think that, uh, it can be used as a platform for breeding in that case,

00:32:27.860 um, to have this sort of, uh, uh, genetic, uh, or this genic or eugenic type of, uh, uh,

00:32:34.900 reason behind that.

00:32:36.620 I think that's probably true.

00:32:38.760 I'm not sure about the age.

00:32:40.700 I would be interested to know, but, um, the, the other thing about this is that, you know,

00:32:48.120 just that the peer pressure is extremely important in these kinds of things and saying that you're,

00:32:57.780 you know, if you announce yourself as evangelical Christian in certain communities, that is absolutely

00:33:07.120 a signal that will benefit you.

00:33:12.860 It means that you're kind of on the team. 0.86

00:33:15.800 You're not some weirdo or goth chick or something.

00:33:19.880 No, you're a good girl and men are going to tend towards you because, or a certain type of man as 0.51

00:33:28.340 well.

00:33:28.520 Some men want the crazy chick or want danger and excitement or whatever.

00:33:32.660 I'm probably closer to those people, but, um, you know, that's a way to find out what

00:33:37.100 find a good husband or so on.

00:33:38.560 Like if you're living in Alabama or something like that.

00:33:41.380 Now, if you're in New York city or, or Chicago or Los Angeles, or even Dallas, Texas or Houston,

00:33:51.040 Texas, the social cost of announcing yourself as like, I'm a Trump fan, which at this point

00:34:01.300 of time, the right stuff app definitely is that has a huge social cost.

00:34:06.360 Not that there aren't any Republicans working at law firms or something like that, but I

00:34:11.880 guarantee you, there are no like VAC skeptics and J6 apologizers who are announcing that

00:34:20.360 publicly, who are getting hired at major law firms.

00:34:24.220 And because of the kind of social pressure, that's not a way to get invited to cocktail

00:34:29.260 parties to, to put it mildly.

00:34:31.420 And so these, these social pressures do, they are different geographically speaking, but

00:34:37.020 what is interesting over the past 10 to 20 years, and I think Trump just exacerbated this

00:34:45.140 is that there is a lower status implied for whites, at least of being conservative.

00:34:52.720 You're not with it.

00:34:56.100 You're not part of the, the vanguard.

00:35:01.240 And you, you kind of see this across the board.

00:35:03.600 There, there has been this, like, it's the so-called great awokening where, you know, white 1.00

00:35:08.920 liberals are more concerned about immigration than Hispanics or so on.

00:35:12.520 And so what I'm suggesting is that I don't think the right stuff app is causing any of

00:35:19.440 this.

00:35:19.740 I think it's just kind of like an ephemeral thing that's riding the wave of this, but I

00:35:26.160 do think that polarization will affect selection to a significant degree.

00:35:31.380 And I think we are really breeding ourselves into different races. 0.97

00:35:36.380 And when I knew Henry Harpending, Henry Harpending died about five years ago or so, but he, he

00:35:43.580 was an evolutionary psychologist.

00:35:44.860 He wrote a book called The 10,000 Year Explosion.

00:35:47.860 He was suggesting this even like a decade or more ago about a kind of new white race due 0.92

00:35:57.620 to selective breeding, uh, in which we were going to almost have a kind of double humped bell

00:36:04.100 curve and that two bell curves were almost a better representation of the populations than

00:36:11.840 just averaging everything out into a bell curve that we're going to start seeing a kind of

00:36:17.220 selection away from things where people, you know, smarter people and including midwits,

00:36:26.080 but they have a way of kind of knowing which way the wind is blowing. 0.98

00:36:30.980 You know, there's probably some hyper-intelligent person who just doesn't care and some dumb 0.99

00:36:37.080 person who doesn't care or who can't comprehend these things, but like more intelligent whites are 0.99

00:36:43.140 going to start signaling regarding their leftism.

00:36:48.440 They have been doing this.

00:36:50.380 And it is interesting.

00:36:51.640 I mean, I talk to liberals and when you talk to them and they're comfortable, they will,

00:36:59.400 you know, if they're like a reasonable person and intelligent and so on, they are actually

00:37:04.680 really uncomfortable with a lot of the gender deconstruction stuff.

00:37:09.180 They're not really uncomfortable with homosexuality, but like, you know, girls engaging in breast 1.00

00:37:18.580 surgery to become, have a flat chest at age 17.

00:37:23.200 I mean, this is, this does actually kind of creep, creep them out.

00:37:28.480 And, but they know that they have to signal in a certain way and it's a high class.

00:37:37.340 It's a high status signaling.

00:37:38.840 And if you're not signaling that way, I think it, it really does indicate a kind of lower

00:37:47.680 intelligence.

00:37:48.380 Now you might gain a lot of benefits from that in, in certain communities, but those certainly

00:37:57.240 aren't the communities of, you know, academia, uh, the professional class, et cetera.

00:38:04.620 And so I, I think this is kind of part of a general phenomenon, which is splitting the white 0.95

00:38:12.340 race into different groups.

00:38:16.240 And at the very least, I think this is something like highly significant that we should think

00:38:22.440 about.

00:38:23.720 Um, so a lot of white nationalism or so on is, it's this, it has this kind of vague notion

00:38:31.200 of whites, you know, like the, the establishment's anti-white and we're sticking up for whites,

00:38:37.740 our people, et cetera.

00:38:38.920 I fell into this, but I think we should kind of question.

00:38:45.280 I mean, and obviously I believe that on some level, I do think that there is a coherent

00:38:49.400 white race, or you could say Aryan is an Indo-European population group.

00:38:56.820 And, and I certainly recognize like a tremendous amount of diversity, but it is interesting that

00:39:03.240 we do all speak a Indo-European language.

00:39:07.540 We are even, even if we're, we are connected genetically and that can be studied through

00:39:12.180 genetic clusters, but we are kind of connected through a common language and cognates.

00:39:16.520 And I think that is powerful.

00:39:18.160 I do think that there is, I think the word Aryan is a coherent concept and is real and

00:39:22.620 important, but you know, in terms of just more pragmatic matters, we do seem to be kind

00:39:30.400 of separating ourself off ideologically, genetically, and it's happening not due to any geographic

00:39:40.160 restriction.

00:39:42.240 And I believe that this will intensify in the future.

00:39:45.860 So when you say something like white, it really is questionable, like what exactly you're

00:39:50.700 referring to, and maybe I'm just suggesting this, I don't have evidence for this and I'm

00:39:58.260 not even sure about it myself, but maybe Teal who did add some money to this. 0.79

00:40:05.040 I don't, I generally don't agree with much of Teal's thinking, to be honest, to the degree

00:40:11.200 that I understand it, but I think he's off on certain things.

00:40:15.940 But might he actually want to be encouraging this?

00:40:21.980 You know, I don't know how much he put into this, a million or two, it's not a big deal

00:40:26.260 for him.

00:40:26.840 He could be fine.

00:40:27.640 He could write it off as a loss and not that and I, but you know, a million dollars is a

00:40:33.240 million dollars or 2 million or 3 million, however much you put in.

00:40:39.100 And that is significant.

00:40:40.480 And it does seem like if you fund something to that type of tune, you care about it, you

00:40:45.840 see something going on.

00:40:47.940 And I wonder if there are people who actually want to exacerbate this.

00:40:52.440 I personally don't want to exacerbate this.

00:40:55.400 I think it's a, it's actually problematic in many ways.

00:40:59.860 But anyway, those were just my thoughts on this matter.

00:41:03.040 Thank you.

RadixJournal - October 05, 2022

The Right Stuff

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