The Right Stuff
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Summary
This week, we're talking about the new dating website called The Right Stuff, and whether or not online dating is a form of eugenics. We also talk about the "80/20 rule" and how it applies to online dating.
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Have you guys seen or heard of this new dating website called The Right Stuff?
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I saw a tweet about it, but I haven't really gotten into that.
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The only thing that kind of reminds me that they might have some copyright problems with one particular podcast.
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It is interesting because it's like, you know, The Right Stuff podcasters, when they say The Right Stuff, what do you think they're referring to?
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I mean, it seems like this is all right-wing stuff, you know, like a smorgasbord of the far right.
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But The Right Stuff is a famous book by Tom Wolfe.
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And it's so, it has a, it does have a kind of eugenic connotation.
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You know, and I'm sure the phrase The Right Stuff long predates that book.
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But it, you know, it does have a kind of eugenic quality to it.
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Like, are you the type of person who can fly a plane past the sound barrier?
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Are you the kind of person who could walk on the moon?
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Do you have lung capacity and bravery and all sorts of things?
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And I think, you know, the curious thing about dating sites is that there is a eugenic quality
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And, you know, and I'm not saying that there isn't also a, maybe not disgenic, but just
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I mean, the, I think this was always present to a degree because they've always had websites
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I remember on, I don't know if people still use Craigslist at this point, but I remember
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on Craigslist, which, you know, 10 or 15 years ago was really actively used for all sorts
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of things for finding a roommate, for giving away old furniture, for maybe even buying a
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And then there was also this, like, there was one section, which I think was highly romantic
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and it was like missed, I forgot what it was called.
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It was like missed opportunities or like something like that.
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And it would be people who would offer these, you know, very soul-wrenching and, you know,
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titles of like, you know, I saw you on the subway, you know, just south of 42nd Street.
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It's like, we made eye contact and you left the train.
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But then there was also one in there called Casual Encounters, which was basically like the
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And so I think this whole aspect of like hookup culture is a long range thing.
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And so a lot of tender is just that of, you know, the 80-20 rule in effect where if you're
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tall and cool and handsome and whatever, there probably are plenty of girls.
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If you're in a big city, there probably are just plenty of girls that you can just, you know,
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And this is possibly eugenic, you could say, in the sense that the 80-20 rule is in effect.
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So basically, or it might not even be 80-20, it might be 98-2.
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So the top guys are getting all the girls and, you know, 80% of the guys, maybe even 98% of
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It's almost like a version of polygamy that has been reinstituted into the world through
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You know, the hookup culture is possibly kind of eugenic, although I seriously doubt it.
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There's probably a lot of contraception and abortion going on.
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And even though it is geographically based to some extent, it is about a kind of selection
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process going on that happens at first glance, because it's a swipe thing.
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But it's not just based on geography or location, although it is based on that to some extent.
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And I think there's something fascinating occurring in the world now that we're 20 years into online
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dating in the sense that traditionally you would marry your high school sweetheart.
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I would imagine the workplace was a location where you would frequently meet your mate.
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That's why people went to these things in the first place, not just to drink.
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And so there were some of these sites that came up originally, like Match.com and OkCupid and even eHarmony.
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There was this kind of eugenic quality to them in the sense that you would list your education.
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You list your college, which is, particularly in the United States, a real sign of something.
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Like I work at this big corporation that everyone's heard of.
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So I'm climbing the ladder and I have my shit together and so on.
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And so we're increasingly meeting people in that way and not just purely due to the accident of birth and in the sense of geography.
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So many people would marry someone, not just their high school sweetheart, but someone they met at college.
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So they met them as they were kind of coming into their own, becoming an adult, thinking about what they want to do in the world and so on.
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Bill and Hillary Clinton, for instance, met at Yale.
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You have two very ambitious people from different parts of the country finding each other in mutual ambition, most likely.
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And it ultimately does change who we are as a race.
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And I think even tender, although I, of course, admit that it's most, you know, 60% about debauchery, even tender is part of that process.
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You're not settling anymore and you're not having a match made by, say, your aunt or grandmother.
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You're actually choosing people and so much of it is just going purely on like immediate data.
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You're making a kind of instant decision based on like three data points.
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And I do think that it is changing who we are going to become for better and for worse, much like the incel phenomenon is changing who will be born and in other ways who will be selected in the future.
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So when these incels whine about like, you know, women should be in barefoot in the kitchen or they or even more so they should be put into cages or whatever the hell they talk about.
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But they are, they have a genuine lament in the sense that the, you know, universal middle-class monogamy enforced through peer pressure.
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You know, if you were a single mother 60 years ago, that might be really detrimental to your life and career.
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I mean, you would be shunned in many cases, maybe not in a big city, but certainly in most small towns.
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So this universally enforced monogamy was a, it was, it's socially constructed and it is political even.
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It's certainly constructed through tax incentives and some other things, but it was a, a, a social contract that ultimately
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was highly beneficial for people who aren't that great.
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Even if you are a bit of a loser or you're ugly or you are, or you're not terribly bright, you still get a piece of the pie.
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In other words, you'll still have a woman that you can regularly have sex with.
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You can have children, she'll help out and so on.
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It was a kind of social bargain that was ultimately egalitarian and was beneficial to these people.
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And, you know, a lot of people say, and I've heard this of like, you know, as nature decided, you know, man and woman,
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because we have been generally speaking, an even number of men and women.
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And there's some interesting exceptions to that rule, but the law of nature, which should be distinguished from so-called natural law,
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which is a fundamentally Christian or I guess platonic on some level concept is not that one man gets one woman and it's all even more or less.
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The law of nature is that 90% of the population doesn't reproduce and two, maybe 25% of the men get all of the women.
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And it is hotly eugenic in the sense that it is brutal.
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And once you men fight to demonstrate strength and genetic inheritance, they grow antlers, they grow peacock's tails, they rams slam into each other.
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And this has been going on since the age of the dinosaurs.
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And so the law of nature is not really about monogamy.
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It does bring a level of fairness to society and it lets everyone kind of be invested in it.
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But I guess what I would say from my standpoint is that this is, we are moving away from this due to a number of factors of sexual revolution, technology.
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I mean, I'm kind of, what spurred me to talk about this was this dating app and a whole host of other factors.
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And, you know, it's, I think we, many conservatives can rightly lament the decline of this or call for greater monogamy or greater religiosity or so on.
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But that is a bit like trying to empty the ocean with a thimble.
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You're going to be overwhelmed by these bigger factors.
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So I think it might be more useful to look at, you know, what is really happening in this?
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Are there, are there, is there a kind of silver lining to what is occurring?
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Might there be a kind of brutal eugenic quality that reenters the world due to all of these things?
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And so I'm trying to be value neutral on this matter.
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And I understand the pain of the incel on some level, but it is what it is.
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In terms of the right stuff, it also is not entirely new in terms of a conservative-focused dating app.
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I've heard of, you know, Christian mingle, and I've never been on there, not surprisingly, I guess.
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But I don't think I'm wrong to suggest that 80% of the people on there were Republicans.
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Also, there was a time, I remember about 20 years ago, when Bill Regnery, in one of his many, you know, projects that he throws out there and then doesn't fund, had this idea of white date or something like that.
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And it was dead in the water, and I think mostly because no one actually put money behind this.
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The right stuff apparently has a million or two from Peter Thiel.
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I'm sure there are other people, like Thiel, who have thrown into this.
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They might just simply do, I mean, a million dollars doesn't mean much to Thiel.
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I think they might do it just to kind of, you know, stay in the conservative good graces.
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They might actually have a kind of ulterior, deeper motive to this.
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And I think it's interesting to look into that.
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But it's not entirely new, although it is fairly new in the sense of it's strictly conservative or right wing.
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It does have a kind of overwhelmingly white quality.
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Can you guys see the pictures I'm putting up there?
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Yeah, in the opening, when you, so I downloaded the app.
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I think they're doing this, I think they're doing this specifically because they're building up the site and they don't want to be overwhelmed with guests.
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And they also probably imagine as well that some, you know, asshole leftists are going to try to, you know, do a DDoS attack or something like that.
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But anyway, it was remarkably white in terms of the opening little video that they had.
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They did do another promotional video that I think a lot of the dissident right incels are reacting to because there's a girl who's kind of, you know, the funny fat chick wearing a leopard skin shirt showing off her cleavage who says she loves alpha males and so on.
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And then they were reacting to this in the way that they do, you know, back to the cage with you woman, which I think is actually very stupid.
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There's just some like little, like, I don't know.
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There's, there's a kind of subtle implied quality to a lot of this.
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Um, and then when you actually click on it, it says this can't be changed later.
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Maybe even the fact that they use the word sex is interesting as well.
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I did fill out a profile, but I'm not on because I've not been invited.
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Um, it does seem to have a little bit of a fertility bent.
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And I guess these are, yeah, these are an alphabetical order.
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So Buddhist, Catholic, Christian, are they implying that Catholics aren't Christians?
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Uh, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, spiritual, non-practicing.
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And obviously atheism is, you know, highly correlated with being liberal, but it's not, certainly not the case that all atheists are, uh, liberal.
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There are actually many atheists that are pretty right-winged, in fact.
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But anyway, it's just interesting that I guess spiritual is the most hippy-dippy thing that you can be.
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Um, and, uh, non-practicing, I guess that means you're kind of elapsed, but, uh, there is no atheist.
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Then the rest of it are pretty normal things, like your date, and then, uh, date of birth, that is.
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And then, uh, you fill out a profile that looks exactly like Tinder.
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Again, I'm not on it, but I assume that it is, uh, a swipe app.
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I assume they're just reproducing the technology.
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It does beg the question of why are you doing this?
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In the sense that you can have a Tinder profile that says, you know, MAGA forever, no liberals allowed or whatever.
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Or you could have a Tinder profile that says, um, you know, Biden 2024, no Trumpers.
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I doubt they're going to, I know they're not going to kick you off the site for that.
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Um, Tinder has banned a lot of conservatives I've seen.
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Uh, but, um, it's just interesting in terms of like, you know, what to make of this on one hand.
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Sorry, my dog is doing his usual barking to enter the conversation.
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Um, you could say that this is just simply reinventing the wheel.
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They've come up with another dating site for conservatives and they're going to try to make
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It's better to have an all encompassing platform than to have a niche platform.
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I was actually fairly, um, or really in fact, sympathetic and enthusiastic about gab in 2016
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or 17 when it was first launched, because there were these waves of deplatforming from Twitter,
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including myself for a month, uh, right after Trump won the election.
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And I was thinking, wow, you know, um, they're, they're going to offer this like free speech
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Um, very shortly after that, I did not like the site.
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I actually deleted my account at one point and, uh, it just became a cesspool and hive of
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And it was most notable for, um, someone who attacked a, uh, temple, a Jewish temple, um,
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a synagogue, uh, for announcing his plans on the platform.
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And then Andrew Torba is, is a maniac kind of Christian nationalist type.
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It just, um, and a very uninteresting one, I would add.
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Uh, but it just, you know, you want to be on a, on a platform where you can possibly interact
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I mean, this is why I actually want there to be monopolies.
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In fact, in platforming, I don't buy any of this, you know, we need to tear it all down
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I think it's much better for there to be one central monopoly for the world.
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So that there, you are playing in their garden.
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You are, you're playing on their ball field, whatever metaphor you want, you are speaking
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to the world and you're not just in this weird echo chamber and, you know, kind of barnyard
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Um, and there are obviously a whole ton of bad incentives to being in an echo chamber.
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It may, it turns you into your worst, the worst version of yourself.
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Uh, it's good to have some feedback and to basically, you know, tweet as if you were talking
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Oh, so on some level, the conservatives are doing the, this is true social or getter or
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They're just reinventing the wheel, but not doing it as well.
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And showing no creativity, just simply trying to find a niche, you know, it's almost as if
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they want to say, oh, this is not, this is not Coca-Cola.
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You know, this is Cola Coke only for conservatives.
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It has the exact same ingredients, but you know, this is made for you.
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It's, it shows no entrepreneurial creativity whatsoever.
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It's simply a way to kind of cash in on a niche and true social from what I understand
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Uh, it's technology that was created by that very strange Chinese, um, expat felon who supports,
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But might there be something kind of deeper going on here beyond the superficial qualities?
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So, uh, I would ask, uh, what was, what would be the main drawing point, uh, of the SAP?
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Because, uh, for truth social, it's of course the presence of Donald Trump there.
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That's where people go to read his truths or his tweets.
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It's, it's not like you have, uh, Ivanka or Trump's other daughter on this app that you
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might have a chance to meet her through this app.
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Well, I've heard the rumor that you're dating Tiffany.
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So, I mean, I've just, it's just a rumor at this point, so I can't confirm, but I will
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And, uh, can it be just another sort of a cash grab by the conservative movement, or does
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this really play into the, uh, polarization in America, uh, because there's needs to be
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like a separate platform for conservatives about anything.
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Like you need, they need to have their own Twitter.
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Maybe they'll have their own streaming service.
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You know, Ben Shapiro has his, uh, movie production company or something like that.
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I think it's just, uh, it's sort of, sort of plays into this trend of polarization, but
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then again, uh, I never, I've never really found that dating would be, uh, could be politicized
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Um, uh, and the friends who are on Tinder, who are, let's say right wing leaning, they don't
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And they're even serious, serious relationships with people that have different political
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opinions, but, uh, I think it's just, um, and I looked at that promotional video.
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Um, I don't really, well, that's a matter of taste, I think, but, uh, I don't really find
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that type of women who are in that ad attracted to sort of look like this Kellyanne Conway or,
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Um, yeah, they're really, they're looking really boring, maybe stupid too, but, uh, I don't
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I was not excited to meet with maybe the exception of the fat chick, you know, after 11 at the
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I mean, where I'm going with this in terms of depth is, you know, polarization occurs
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It is hyper, uh, we are hyper polarized in the United States, but I mean, you could probably
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attest, I mean, there, even in a country like Finland, I would imagine there's a kind
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of creeping polarization that isn't as powerful as it is here due to, due to the obvious reasons.
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This, this seems to be the broad direction where we are going as a society.
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There's some interesting polling data that I, I think I've mentioned on other calls.
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So previously, uh, in, in the Pew research has asked this question and it's very interesting.
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It's very controversial question, but like, what would you think if your daughter married
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or was dating someone of another race or your son?
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And they, you would get very strong reactions throughout the 20th century.
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And by the 1990s, those reactions were lessening.
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Now, of course, you, you know, it's important to remember what someone says to a pollster is
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And so there's a, there's a kind of another level of that.
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You, you could also say that by the 1990s, fewer people were willing to acknowledge a sort
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of tribalism, uh, and they might add, you know, what they actually feel on the inside
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Uh, but it's kind of like the polling question from 15 years ago of, do you think America
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And people supposedly would answer more honestly about their own preference.
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You know, they, oh, I just don't think other people are ready for Barack Obama.
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You know, I mean, me, uh, of course, you know, I'm, uh, purely egalitarian, but other people,
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you know, it's a way of kind of ferreting out the truth through the question.
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But anyway, basically at this point, people are, they, as they express themselves, they
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are much, uh, more worried about their daughter dating someone of another political party than
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they are their daughter dating someone of another race.
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And this is particularly intense among conservatives.
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And I would imagine that it's particularly intense among conservative men.
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So these right-wing MAGA types, you know, if you bring home a black guy with a red cap
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and who's, you know, votes for DeSantis or whatever, he's A-OK.
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Uh, but, you know, don't you dare bring in some Yale graduate who's liberal and loosey-goosey
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and reading marks on the side, you know, that's intolerable.
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Now, again, whether that's really true or not is questionable, but that is how they express
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And so what we're seeing is like polarization is so deep and something like the right stuff
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to the degree that it's successful, it just continues this issue.
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Polarization is so deep that it is, it is affecting selection.
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So conservatives are breeding with other conservatives and liberals are breeding with liberals and
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that will clearly affect where we are and going down the road.
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And there is a, so there's a kind of sifting process.
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And, you know, I don't, again, I, I certainly don't think that someone's political ideology
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is like purely genetic or something, but, um, I do think that people are kind of prone to
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I think that's a reasonable guess that 50% is kind of environmental or due to chance.
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So I, I read a lot of the left, I, I'm, but, you know, it's hard for me to imagine myself
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in any circumstance really kind of like going along with their stuff, you know, or, or being
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fighting for the rights of the, of the poor and India or something.
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And it, there is a visceral, most likely genetic quality that breeds for conservatism.
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There's an, also a question, uh, about this, uh, conservative dating app.
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Uh, what would be the, uh, sex or gender distribution?
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Uh, I would imagine that there would be more men who would be using this app and that there
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would, uh, the, the number of women would be lower and also, uh, the age, um, I would
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imagine that it's more tended towards, uh, older people, like maybe people who are over
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30 or maybe in their forties, something like that.
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So I don't really think that, uh, it can be used as a platform for breeding in that case,
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um, to have this sort of, uh, uh, genetic, uh, or this genic or eugenic type of, uh, uh,
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I would be interested to know, but, um, the, the other thing about this is that, you know,
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just that the peer pressure is extremely important in these kinds of things and saying that you're,
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you know, if you announce yourself as evangelical Christian in certain communities, that is absolutely
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You're not some weirdo or goth chick or something.
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No, you're a good girl and men are going to tend towards you because, or a certain type of man as
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Some men want the crazy chick or want danger and excitement or whatever.
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I'm probably closer to those people, but, um, you know, that's a way to find out what
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Like if you're living in Alabama or something like that.
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Now, if you're in New York city or, or Chicago or Los Angeles, or even Dallas, Texas or Houston,
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Texas, the social cost of announcing yourself as like, I'm a Trump fan, which at this point
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of time, the right stuff app definitely is that has a huge social cost.
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Not that there aren't any Republicans working at law firms or something like that, but I
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guarantee you, there are no like VAC skeptics and J6 apologizers who are announcing that
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publicly, who are getting hired at major law firms.
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And because of the kind of social pressure, that's not a way to get invited to cocktail
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And so these, these social pressures do, they are different geographically speaking, but
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what is interesting over the past 10 to 20 years, and I think Trump just exacerbated this
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is that there is a lower status implied for whites, at least of being conservative.
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And you, you kind of see this across the board.
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There, there has been this, like, it's the so-called great awokening where, you know, white
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liberals are more concerned about immigration than Hispanics or so on.
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And so what I'm suggesting is that I don't think the right stuff app is causing any of
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I think it's just kind of like an ephemeral thing that's riding the wave of this, but I
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do think that polarization will affect selection to a significant degree.
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And I think we are really breeding ourselves into different races.
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And when I knew Henry Harpending, Henry Harpending died about five years ago or so, but he, he
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He wrote a book called The 10,000 Year Explosion.
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He was suggesting this even like a decade or more ago about a kind of new white race due
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to selective breeding, uh, in which we were going to almost have a kind of double humped bell
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curve and that two bell curves were almost a better representation of the populations than
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just averaging everything out into a bell curve that we're going to start seeing a kind of
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selection away from things where people, you know, smarter people and including midwits,
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but they have a way of kind of knowing which way the wind is blowing.
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You know, there's probably some hyper-intelligent person who just doesn't care and some dumb
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person who doesn't care or who can't comprehend these things, but like more intelligent whites are
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going to start signaling regarding their leftism.
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I mean, I talk to liberals and when you talk to them and they're comfortable, they will,
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you know, if they're like a reasonable person and intelligent and so on, they are actually
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really uncomfortable with a lot of the gender deconstruction stuff.
00:37:09.180
They're not really uncomfortable with homosexuality, but like, you know, girls engaging in breast
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surgery to become, have a flat chest at age 17.
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I mean, this is, this does actually kind of creep, creep them out.
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And, but they know that they have to signal in a certain way and it's a high class.
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And if you're not signaling that way, I think it, it really does indicate a kind of lower
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Now you might gain a lot of benefits from that in, in certain communities, but those certainly
00:37:57.240
aren't the communities of, you know, academia, uh, the professional class, et cetera.
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And so I, I think this is kind of part of a general phenomenon, which is splitting the white
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And at the very least, I think this is something like highly significant that we should think
00:38:23.720
Um, so a lot of white nationalism or so on is, it's this, it has this kind of vague notion
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of whites, you know, like the, the establishment's anti-white and we're sticking up for whites,
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I fell into this, but I think we should kind of question.
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I mean, and obviously I believe that on some level, I do think that there is a coherent
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white race, or you could say Aryan is an Indo-European population group.
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And, and I certainly recognize like a tremendous amount of diversity, but it is interesting that
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We are even, even if we're, we are connected genetically and that can be studied through
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genetic clusters, but we are kind of connected through a common language and cognates.
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I do think that there is, I think the word Aryan is a coherent concept and is real and
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important, but you know, in terms of just more pragmatic matters, we do seem to be kind
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of separating ourself off ideologically, genetically, and it's happening not due to any geographic
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And I believe that this will intensify in the future.
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So when you say something like white, it really is questionable, like what exactly you're
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referring to, and maybe I'm just suggesting this, I don't have evidence for this and I'm
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not even sure about it myself, but maybe Teal who did add some money to this.
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I don't, I generally don't agree with much of Teal's thinking, to be honest, to the degree
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that I understand it, but I think he's off on certain things.
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But might he actually want to be encouraging this?
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You know, I don't know how much he put into this, a million or two, it's not a big deal
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He could write it off as a loss and not that and I, but you know, a million dollars is a
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million dollars or 2 million or 3 million, however much you put in.
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And it does seem like if you fund something to that type of tune, you care about it, you
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And I wonder if there are people who actually want to exacerbate this.
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I think it's a, it's actually problematic in many ways.
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But anyway, those were just my thoughts on this matter.