RadixJournal - July 17, 2024


The Teflon Don and the Hillbilly Shapeshifter


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

151.45515

Word Count

7,421

Sentence Count

576

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

29


Summary

J.D. Vance is a Yale Law graduate, an Ivy League graduate, and a Harvard Law graduate. He s been around a long time, and he s a smart guy. And yet, he s not a politician. How did he get there?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Before Trump came down the escalator in 2015, there was a model of what an American politician would look like.
00:00:14.520 And a lot of people talk about identity politics. I think there was something about personal identity politics that Obama represented in the sense that one of the secondary taglines of that campaign was, be the change you want to see in the world.
00:00:36.020 And you could take that phrase in multiple ways. One of the ways you could take that is just simply voting for Obama was the change you wanted to see.
00:00:48.860 And so let's go back to Obama. Obama was and is a thoughtful man. He's sometimes too nuanced in his responses to things. He doesn't go for the jugular.
00:01:06.020 He can sometimes be a little gray on gray or talk around things and so on. But he's clearly an intelligent person. He's clearly a thoughtful, a deeper person than, say, Donald Trump or George W. Bush.
00:01:18.780 When he started running against Hillary, there was a very strong dynamic of, first off, he gives great speeches, but I can get the job done. That was kind of Hillary's case, along with the white people love me, which was what she was saying in 2008, believe it or not.
00:01:39.620 But there was also a sort of Hillary Clinton voted for the war. And she's kind of tainted by the Bush era and we're moving off the war on terror. Barack Obama became a senator in 2004, so he couldn't have voted for the war. He did engage in some protests.
00:01:57.620 He spoke at protests in Chicago against the war in Iraq. Now, it should be noted that in those speeches, he actually endorsed the war on terror and endorsed the Afghanistan campaign.
00:02:13.300 I actually learned about this reading Spencer Ackerman's book, Reign of Terror, which is pretty good.
00:02:19.700 And he is one of these leftists who is highly skeptical of Barack Obama.
00:02:24.760 And as he should be, Barack Obama created a sustainable war on terror. He increased drone strikes. He never really moved off Gitmo or torture, etc., etc.
00:02:38.680 He never fundamentally questioned the war on terror. And thus, he was kind of stuck in this, you voted for me because you hated George W. Bush, and you want the war to be over, but I kind of can't fully end it.
00:02:54.880 It was this liminal kind of purgatory state that never really worked. And in that way, his whole movement was a failure.
00:03:06.340 But I think what Obama represented, along with actual policy, like stop the war in Iraq, Bush and Cheney are evil, which is fair enough, it was this personal story where you vote.
00:03:28.460 It doesn't matter what Barack Obama is going to do. Just the fact that he is the president is what is remarkable.
00:03:35.120 You know, the fact that he's cast in this role, you know, isn't it amazing that the new James Bond is black, or the Little Mermaid is black, or, you know, Super Mario Brothers is gay, or whatever, that didn't happen.
00:03:53.060 I'm just saying, where they're vampirically leeching off something that's old, and they're replacing the front man.
00:04:02.800 And I think that's what he represented. And there was a kind of model of a new politician in the 2000s that would represent that.
00:04:10.840 Someone like Pete Buttigieg, who, you know, comes from highly educated, comes from this consultant world, and he's kind of like the gay Obama.
00:04:23.520 You know, I'm this nice, non-Elton John-like homosexual from the Midwest. I was a mayor of a small town, and only in America could I rise to become your president, blah, blah, blah.
00:04:37.700 This, like, personal identity politics. It's personal politics more than anything. Wouldn't it be amazing if we, you know, vault Mayo Pete into the presidency?
00:04:51.140 We're so proud of ourselves. It's a kind of virtue signal that you're voting for Barack Obama.
00:04:57.140 J.D. Vance has always struck me as kind of like, why is J.D. Vance?
00:05:05.640 So, when I first heard of J.D. Vance, and the fact that he was involved in venture capital, etc., I assumed that he was some sort of savant from the trailer park, or, you know, some quant kid who was able to offer all of this
00:05:27.080 insight into investing, and it was one of the, you find them, you know, it's like, his parents were terrible drug addicts, but this kid is so damn smart, and he just gets taken up.
00:05:41.080 And that's not the case. You know, there's a line from one of these Steve Jobs biopics where Waz asked him, what exactly is it that you do?
00:05:52.700 And I don't know what J.D. Vance does. He's obviously articulate, and he can answer a question reporters, but so what? He went to Yale Law School.
00:06:09.500 So what? I've met people who went to Yale Law School. When my graduate career, I met highly intelligent people at U of C or Duke. I met people who I found to be sub-mediocrities at both places.
00:06:27.800 I just don't care what diploma you have. He's never really practiced law. Again, it's just this, like, venture capital guy. He seems to have been chosen or kind of anointed by Amy Chua and then the Peter Thiel people and others as kind of, like, our guy.
00:06:51.920 But I don't really see the point of it all. And even by the age of 30, he was already focused on this politics of personal success of, like, isn't it amazing that I exist?
00:07:07.040 And I guess my response to that is not really. I don't know what to say. I actually watched his TED Talk from many years ago, and I think this really sums up the kind of fakeness, narcissism on his part, and also just meaninglessness of his, like, working class thing.
00:07:36.620 Where, you know, like, to compare him to Obama. Obama has a Muslim-y background. I mean, obviously, we have the birthers who are obsessed with the fact that he wasn't born in this country and grew up in a mosque or whatever they were saying.
00:07:51.220 I don't believe that. But he ultimately did nothing for Muslims. Like, as Spencer Ackerman demonstrates in his book, the FBI and Homeland Security were still, like, rounding up Muslims, infiltrating their mosques, kicking them out of the country, drone-striking innocent people, including an American citizen.
00:08:16.560 I mean, it's just Barack Obama. It's his personal story. You almost, like, invest revolutionary politics in one person. And just by the fact that he exists, that's enough. You've accomplished it. Let's not actually change anything. Let's not even do anything for the supposed constituency of Barack Obama.
00:08:40.580 Just by the fact that he is existing as our president is enough. And I think there's the same thing for J.D. Vance. Whether he cultivated this himself, whether he grasped that that was in the zeitgeist, or whether other people found him as, like, a kind of malleable person to construct in this image.
00:09:00.760 I don't know. It's probably a combination of the two. I don't know which was more prominent. But it's just all fake.
00:09:09.300 And let's just watch this TED Talk, because, you know, you can tell a lot about people from the masks they wear and how they present themselves and the sort of anecdotes they tell.
00:09:24.080 I found this extremely revealing. I imagine he wrote this himself. I have not read Hillbilly Elegy. I've seen smart people who have read it on Twitter, and they're just like, it was a self-serving naval gaze, basically. And I don't doubt it. I might actually read the book. I don't want to buy it, though, because I don't want to give this son of a bitch any money.
00:09:45.900 But I remember the very first time I went to a nice restaurant, a really nice restaurant. It was for a law firm recruitment dinner. And I remember beforehand, the waitress walked around and asked whether we wanted some wine. So I said, sure, I'll take some white wine.
00:10:03.680 And she immediately said, would you like Sauvignon Blanc or Chardonnay? And I remember thinking, come on, lady. Stop with the fancy French words and just give me some white wine.
00:10:17.240 But I used my powers of deduction and recognized that Chardonnay and Sauvignon Blanc were two separate types of white wine. And so I told her that I would take the Chardonnay, because, frankly, that was the easiest one to pronounce for me.
00:10:28.280 So I had a lot of experiences like that during my first couple of years.
00:10:33.280 First off, that's not a terribly interesting anecdote. The fact that you open with that is wet.
00:10:41.820 There's this theme of J.D. Vance of putting on a mask and pretending to be another person and congratulating himself for that and never really being comfortable in his own skin.
00:10:58.480 And so, like, I would imagine a true, like, Scotch-Irish Appalachia guy would maybe order a beer or say, like, hell, lady, I don't care.
00:11:13.880 So long as you fill up this glass to the brim, that's good enough.
00:11:17.300 Like, there's a sort of, like, earthy way of responding to that and saying it with a, you know, twinkle in your eye where it's kind of funny.
00:11:24.660 But he instead pretends to be someone, he pretends to know the difference between those things.
00:11:30.600 Just hear this whole thing out, because throughout this speech, which I presume he wrote himself, there are numerous examples.
00:11:39.120 The only, the way he, his survival mechanism throughout his life is pretending to be someone else.
00:11:46.120 And this is just the, he, this is the opener.
00:11:49.640 And it's just, again, another example of the way he survives is he puts on a mask and a costume.
00:11:56.720 This man comes from a sociopathic, excuse me, a psychopathic family of drug addicts and criminals.
00:12:03.780 And he is one, he's just really good at it.
00:12:06.140 So that's my basic lead on this.
00:12:10.120 I'll prove it to you as we go on.
00:12:12.840 Let's watch more.
00:12:14.600 Because despite all outward appearances, I'm a cultural outsider.
00:12:18.340 I didn't come from the elites.
00:12:19.720 I didn't come from the Northeast or from San Francisco.
00:12:23.940 I came from a Southern Ohio steel town.
00:12:26.320 And it's a town that's really struggling in a lot of ways,
00:12:28.840 ways that are indicative of the broader struggles of America's working class.
00:12:33.900 Heroin has moved in, killing a lot of people.
00:12:36.140 People I know.
00:12:37.700 Family violence, domestic violence and divorce of torn apart families.
00:12:42.320 And there's a very unique sense of pessimism that's moved in.
00:12:46.600 Think about rising mortality rates in these communities and recognize that
00:12:50.180 for a lot of these folks, the problems that they're seeing are actually causing
00:12:54.220 rising death rates in their own communities.
00:12:56.700 So there's a very real sense of struggle.
00:12:59.060 Now, I had a very front row seat to that struggle.
00:13:02.700 My family has been part of that struggle for a very long time.
00:13:06.700 I come from a family that doesn't have a whole lot of money.
00:13:12.040 The addiction that plagued my community also plagued my family, and even, sadly, my own mom.
00:13:18.380 There were a lot of problems that I saw in my own family, problems caused sometimes by lack of money,
00:13:25.380 problems caused sometimes by lack of access to resources and social capital that really affected my life.
00:13:32.720 If you had looked at my life when I was 14 years old and said,
00:13:36.720 well, what's going to happen to this kid?
00:13:39.360 You would have concluded that I would have struggled with what academics call upward mobility.
00:13:45.560 So upward mobility is an abstract term,
00:13:48.440 but it strikes as something that's very core at the heart of the American dream.
00:13:52.740 It's the sense, and it measures whether kids like me who grow up in poor communities
00:13:57.280 are going to live a better life,
00:13:58.880 whether they're going to have a chance to live a materially better existence,
00:14:03.920 or whether they're going to stay in the circumstances where they came from.
00:14:07.800 And one of the things we've learned, unfortunately,
00:14:10.060 is that upward mobility isn't as high as we'd like it to be in this country.
00:14:14.540 And interestingly, it's very geographically distributed.
00:14:19.140 So take Utah, for instance.
00:14:21.900 In Utah, a poor kid is actually doing okay,
00:14:25.480 very likely to live their share and their part in the American dream.
00:14:29.620 But if you think of where I'm from,
00:14:31.440 in the South, in Appalachia, in Southern Ohio,
00:14:34.720 it's very unlikely that kids like that will rise.
00:14:39.720 The American dream in those parts of the country is,
00:14:42.120 in a very real sense, just a dream.
00:14:43.900 I mean, yeah, a lot of gullible wasp and German types were taken in by Mormonism.
00:14:52.860 And there was even a selection process of making the trek to Utah,
00:14:57.620 in which the strongest survived.
00:14:59.700 And that is why they're like that.
00:15:03.860 I remember driving around.
00:15:06.480 I was visiting Paul Gottfried.
00:15:07.960 I think I've told this story before.
00:15:10.080 But just driving from the South into German Pennsylvania,
00:15:16.020 you drive from like front yards in which there is a broken down car on bricks,
00:15:24.120 a broken, rusty car sitting on bricks in the front yard,
00:15:28.040 to driving to a well-kept, like almost goofy,
00:15:32.800 like gnome-laden little Germanic yard.
00:15:35.480 I mean, there are ethnic differences.
00:15:39.920 And you, I mean, all this upward mobility,
00:15:44.200 the way he imagines it is like becoming another person,
00:15:47.360 like putting on a mask or putting on a new costume.
00:15:50.220 I mean, J.D., you are who you are.
00:15:54.420 People don't change, actually.
00:15:56.960 The takeaway that I get from his, from J.D.'s stuff is he doesn't offer any solution to this
00:16:06.220 outside of upward mobility.
00:16:09.060 Like your ability to kind of finagle your way into a position where you're drinking sparkling wine
00:16:16.220 and Chardonnay as opposed to grain alcohol is kind of like his only message.
00:16:24.600 But let's go on.
00:16:26.440 So why is that happening?
00:16:28.640 So one reason is obviously economic or structural.
00:16:31.920 So you think of these areas, they're beset by these terrible economic trends
00:16:35.660 built around industries like coal and steel that make it harder for folks to get ahead.
00:16:41.120 It's certainly one problem.
00:16:42.520 There's also the problem of brain drain, where they're really talented people
00:16:46.000 because they can't find high-skill work at home end up moving elsewhere,
00:16:49.080 so they don't build a business or a non-profit where they're from.
00:16:51.780 They end up going elsewhere and taking their talents with them.
00:16:55.400 There are failing schools in a lot of these communities,
00:16:57.880 failing to give kids the educational leg up
00:17:00.060 that really makes it possible for kids to have opportunities later in life.
00:17:03.680 These things are all important.
00:17:05.100 I don't mean to discount these structural barriers,
00:17:07.340 but when I look back at my life and at my community,
00:17:10.720 something else was going on.
00:17:11.920 Something else mattered.
00:17:13.220 It's difficult to quantify,
00:17:16.300 but it was no less real.
00:17:18.940 So for starters,
00:17:19.960 there was a very real sense of hopelessness
00:17:22.280 in the community that I grew up in.
00:17:24.400 There was a sense that kids had that their choices didn't matter.
00:17:27.580 No matter what happened,
00:17:28.960 no matter how hard they worked,
00:17:30.320 no matter how hard they tried to get ahead,
00:17:32.500 nothing good would happen.
00:17:35.000 So that's a tough feeling to grow up around.
00:17:37.960 That's a tough mindset to penetrate.
00:17:41.280 And it leads, sometimes,
00:17:43.520 to very conspiratorial places.
00:17:46.140 So let's just take one political issue that's pretty hot,
00:17:50.160 affirmative action.
00:17:51.580 So depending on your politics,
00:17:52.860 you might think that affirmative action
00:17:54.100 is either a wise or an unwise way
00:17:56.480 to promote diversity in the workplace or the classroom.
00:17:58.880 But if you grow up in an area like this,
00:18:01.680 you see affirmative action as a tool
00:18:03.260 to hold people like you back.
00:18:05.340 That's especially true
00:18:06.420 if you're a member of the white working class.
00:18:08.520 You see it as something
00:18:09.440 that isn't just about good or bad policy.
00:18:12.080 You see it as something
00:18:13.120 that's actively conspiring,
00:18:14.980 where people with political and financial power
00:18:16.860 are working against you.
00:18:18.260 And there are a lot of ways
00:18:19.820 that you see that conspiracy against you
00:18:23.680 perceived, real,
00:18:26.120 but it's there,
00:18:27.300 and it warps expectations.
00:18:29.660 So if you think about
00:18:30.640 what do you do when you grow up in that world,
00:18:32.900 you can respond in a couple ways.
00:18:34.400 One, you can say,
00:18:35.600 I'm not going to work hard
00:18:36.460 because no matter how hard I work,
00:18:37.940 it's not going to matter.
00:18:39.300 Another thing you might do is say,
00:18:41.040 well,
00:18:42.280 I'm not going to go after
00:18:43.260 the traditional markers of success
00:18:44.500 like a university education
00:18:45.900 or a prestigious job
00:18:46.940 because the people who care about those things
00:18:48.740 are unlike me.
00:18:49.640 They're never going to let me in.
00:18:51.440 When I got admitted to Yale,
00:18:52.760 a family member asked me
00:18:53.720 if I had pretended to be a liberal
00:18:55.120 to get it by the admissions committee.
00:18:58.300 Seriously.
00:18:59.420 And it's obviously not the case
00:19:01.940 that there was a liberal box to check
00:19:03.500 on the application,
00:19:04.380 but it speaks to the very real insecurity
00:19:07.020 in these places
00:19:08.180 that you have to pretend to be somebody you're not
00:19:10.720 to get past these various social barriers.
00:19:13.200 Okay, he ends there.
00:19:13.980 So it's a very significant problem.
00:19:15.880 Yeah, thanks, JD, for that.
00:19:16.940 Brilliant.
00:19:17.480 Yeah.
00:19:18.620 Why do you think people have a perception
00:19:21.300 that affirmative action is anti-white?
00:19:24.880 Why is that, do you think, JD?
00:19:28.380 And what are you going to do about that?
00:19:32.340 Does this need to be changed?
00:19:34.560 Or is this just an example
00:19:36.820 of conspiratorial thinking
00:19:39.440 that people descend into?
00:19:41.580 He is like the hillbilly whisperer
00:19:47.400 in the sense that he'll tell liberals
00:19:50.000 like real talk now, guys.
00:19:51.840 This is how people think.
00:19:53.880 They think that only liberals
00:19:54.960 are at these elite colleges
00:19:56.200 and affirmative actions
00:19:58.320 holding the white man down or something.
00:19:59.940 So that's one way they could think.
00:20:02.260 But, you know, it's just...
00:20:04.580 I don't know why...
00:20:06.320 I don't know why this guy bothers me so much,
00:20:09.300 but it's like I know what he's doing.
00:20:11.620 He's almost like monitoring
00:20:14.240 any sort of resentment,
00:20:20.460 even rage,
00:20:22.220 or righteous criticism
00:20:24.620 of the system or so on,
00:20:27.060 and then just kind of like
00:20:28.460 observing it
00:20:30.500 and then moving on
00:20:31.560 and talking about how he got a DM.
00:20:34.960 It's just very weird
00:20:37.120 because you even...
00:20:38.560 I think some people could even hear this
00:20:40.240 and get the sense
00:20:40.940 that he's opposed to affirmative action.
00:20:43.060 There's no reason to believe that, actually.
00:20:46.180 But let's go on.
00:20:47.900 Give into that hopelessness.
00:20:48.520 Even if you don't give into that hopelessness,
00:20:50.760 even if you think, let's say,
00:20:52.560 that your choices matter
00:20:54.260 and you want to make the good choices,
00:20:55.740 you want to do better for yourself
00:20:57.600 and for your family,
00:20:59.160 it's sometimes hard
00:21:00.560 to even know what those choices are
00:21:02.360 when you grow up in a community like I did.
00:21:04.520 I didn't know, for example,
00:21:06.040 that you had to go to law school
00:21:07.180 to be a lawyer.
00:21:09.040 I didn't know that elite universities,
00:21:10.840 as research consistently tells us,
00:21:13.000 are cheaper for low-income kids
00:21:14.820 because these universities have bigger endowments,
00:21:17.420 can offer more generous financial aid.
00:21:19.580 I remember I learned this
00:21:20.640 when I got the financial aid letter
00:21:21.940 from Yale for myself.
00:21:23.200 tens of thousands of dollars
00:21:24.920 in need-based aid,
00:21:26.500 which is a term I'd never heard before.
00:21:28.680 But I turned to my aunt
00:21:29.980 when I got that letter and said,
00:21:31.180 you know, I think this just means
00:21:32.360 that for the first time in my life,
00:21:34.080 being poor has paid really well.
00:21:36.100 This guy has so much good.
00:21:36.980 Yeah, like, the point is that
00:21:40.340 you can't get in,
00:21:41.620 it's exceedingly difficult
00:21:42.820 to get into Yale.
00:21:44.320 And I'm glad that you were
00:21:45.480 kind of the chosen one.
00:21:46.700 I have no idea why this person
00:21:51.820 who does not,
00:21:52.740 strikes me as pretty, like,
00:21:54.120 moderately intelligent and articulate
00:21:56.160 and uncharismatic
00:21:57.820 is chosen over others.
00:22:00.080 I really have no idea
00:22:01.640 what makes this guy special,
00:22:04.880 but you got in.
00:22:06.520 The reason, like,
00:22:07.940 that's not a solution
00:22:09.480 to a problem
00:22:10.740 of the decline of the middle class
00:22:13.080 is that if you get into Yale,
00:22:15.420 which is about a 1% chance,
00:22:18.260 I would assume,
00:22:18.860 on your application,
00:22:19.960 for every 100 applicants,
00:22:21.620 I would imagine 99 are rejected.
00:22:23.640 It might even be more than that.
00:22:25.380 That because these guys
00:22:27.080 have more endowments,
00:22:28.620 that they can offer you more aid.
00:22:30.420 Like, to think of that
00:22:32.060 as any sort of solution
00:22:33.760 to the problem
00:22:34.840 that he is putting forth
00:22:35.820 is just absurd.
00:22:38.580 I mean, what is his solution?
00:22:39.840 Go to Yale
00:22:40.560 and don't go to U of Ohio?
00:22:43.600 And he's just talking about
00:22:45.280 his little specialness.
00:22:47.400 This kid got the golden ticket
00:22:49.820 in the chocolate bar,
00:22:51.160 and he's, like,
00:22:52.240 instructing people,
00:22:53.640 well, what you need to do
00:22:54.740 to get ahead
00:22:55.460 is to find the golden ticket
00:22:57.520 in the Wonka chocolate bar.
00:22:59.020 It's just truly absurd, actually.
00:23:02.480 I'm not even sure
00:23:03.280 I agree with the 2016 Trump notion
00:23:06.660 of, like,
00:23:07.020 we're bringing back coal mining
00:23:08.660 and so on.
00:23:09.460 I'm not even sure
00:23:10.260 I agree with that.
00:23:11.380 But putting that aside,
00:23:12.920 that is a solution
00:23:14.180 to bring back coal
00:23:15.440 to revitalize these communities.
00:23:17.100 Like, what is he saying
00:23:18.620 outside of get into Yale Law School?
00:23:22.600 Why do you even go into Yale Law School
00:23:25.220 if you're not going to practice law?
00:23:26.360 Like, is it just to kind of
00:23:28.640 be part of the club?
00:23:31.320 Apparently, you know,
00:23:34.580 like, you don't actually care
00:23:36.620 about the law
00:23:38.180 or being a prosecutor
00:23:39.280 or whatever.
00:23:39.860 You went into venture capital.
00:23:41.980 But anyway.
00:23:43.820 So, I didn't have access
00:23:45.500 to that information.
00:23:46.540 I didn't have access
00:23:47.420 to that information
00:23:48.340 because the social networks
00:23:49.440 around me didn't have access
00:23:50.480 to that information.
00:23:51.220 I learned from my community
00:23:53.300 how to shoot a gun,
00:23:54.380 how to shoot it well.
00:23:55.720 I learned how to make
00:23:56.420 a damn good biscuit recipe.
00:23:58.260 The trick, by the way,
00:23:59.380 is frozen butter,
00:24:00.680 not warm butter.
00:24:01.220 What the fuck is he talking about?
00:24:02.160 How to get ahead.
00:24:03.460 How to get ahead.
00:24:04.320 I didn't learn how to make
00:24:05.540 the good decisions
00:24:06.780 about education
00:24:07.560 and opportunity
00:24:08.220 that you need
00:24:09.260 to make
00:24:10.900 to actually have a chance
00:24:12.400 in this 21st century
00:24:13.360 knowledge economy.
00:24:14.860 Economists call
00:24:15.860 the value that we gain
00:24:17.380 from our informal networks,
00:24:18.800 from our friends
00:24:19.780 and colleagues
00:24:20.520 and family social capital.
00:24:22.380 The social capital
00:24:23.160 that I had wasn't built
00:24:24.260 for 21st century America.
00:24:26.240 And it showed.
00:24:28.440 There's something else
00:24:29.220 that's really important
00:24:29.940 that's going on
00:24:30.940 that our community
00:24:32.120 doesn't like to talk about,
00:24:33.460 but it's very real.
00:24:35.320 Working class kids
00:24:36.160 are much more likely
00:24:36.960 to face what's called
00:24:37.920 adverse childhood experiences,
00:24:39.940 which is just a famous word,
00:24:41.780 fancy word,
00:24:42.720 for childhood trauma.
00:24:44.500 Getting hit
00:24:45.080 or yelled at,
00:24:46.200 put down by a parent
00:24:47.040 repeatedly,
00:24:48.140 watching someone hit
00:24:49.100 or beat your parent,
00:24:50.520 watching someone do drugs
00:24:51.960 or abuse alcohol.
00:24:53.140 Yeah, no shit, J.D.
00:24:54.180 These are all instances
00:24:54.980 of childhood trauma.
00:24:55.460 Why is this person
00:24:56.200 telling us something
00:24:57.200 that everyone knows?
00:25:00.600 Economists call it
00:25:01.600 personal trauma.
00:25:03.640 If your dad
00:25:04.820 beats you up
00:25:05.820 and shoots your mom,
00:25:08.820 what the fuck
00:25:10.220 is this?
00:25:11.420 That may have
00:25:11.940 a negative impact.
00:25:12.800 He didn't know.
00:25:14.180 Yeah, I think so.
00:25:16.280 You'd have to go
00:25:16.840 to law school
00:25:17.540 to be a lawyer.
00:25:18.220 I didn't know that.
00:25:19.480 Bro, I think I knew that
00:25:20.240 when I was a guy.
00:25:21.960 What the fuck
00:25:22.400 do you think
00:25:24.060 you go to law school for?
00:25:25.660 It's just...
00:25:26.740 Well, I don't know.
00:25:27.520 It's like this...
00:25:28.600 He's offering
00:25:29.360 some crucial insights.
00:25:30.680 It's like,
00:25:31.360 economists say
00:25:32.940 that if your mom
00:25:33.860 puts meth
00:25:34.680 in your Cheerios,
00:25:35.940 you're a lot less likely
00:25:37.560 to understand
00:25:38.440 what Chardonnay means.
00:25:41.300 Who the...
00:25:41.900 This is the most
00:25:43.240 obnoxiously
00:25:44.500 dumb person
00:25:46.300 I...
00:25:48.220 I mean,
00:25:48.600 again,
00:25:49.040 I know it's a TED Talk,
00:25:50.280 so you kind of have
00:25:50.740 to boil things down,
00:25:52.060 but isn't this
00:25:52.760 just a kind of expression
00:25:54.280 of this just like
00:25:55.240 malformed brain?
00:25:57.800 He's a self-made midwit
00:25:59.080 is what he is.
00:26:00.440 He's proud of
00:26:01.400 being a self-made midwit.
00:26:03.320 Because I wasn't
00:26:04.040 a dumbass
00:26:04.680 in a trailer park.
00:26:05.600 I didn't just pound
00:26:06.740 Bush Light all day.
00:26:07.660 I decided to
00:26:08.480 pull myself up
00:26:09.460 by the bootstraps
00:26:10.300 and articulate
00:26:11.340 and use corporate buzzwords.
00:26:13.480 Yeah.
00:26:14.860 And like Obama,
00:26:15.860 I wrote an autobiography
00:26:17.300 at age 30.
00:26:19.540 And again,
00:26:20.600 he hadn't done anything.
00:26:22.280 Making it meant
00:26:23.020 getting into Yale Law School
00:26:24.580 and then just being like
00:26:25.720 having a sinecure
00:26:26.980 at a venture fund
00:26:28.180 or whatever.
00:26:28.860 This is...
00:26:29.880 This guy is...
00:26:33.000 Like,
00:26:33.400 not just because
00:26:34.280 of his figure...
00:26:35.340 Like,
00:26:35.760 face physiognomy,
00:26:37.220 but like,
00:26:37.920 he is extremely punchable.
00:26:40.520 Yeah,
00:26:41.040 but his...
00:26:41.280 I just have to say...
00:26:41.960 It's just the fat face.
00:26:44.960 I mean,
00:26:45.200 it's like...
00:26:45.960 It's like Charlie
00:26:46.920 His head is round.
00:26:49.020 It's just...
00:26:49.620 He's got the small face.
00:26:51.060 But it's just...
00:26:51.560 There are ethnic differences
00:26:53.000 in the white race.
00:26:54.300 And like,
00:26:54.620 the fact that
00:26:55.620 we want to
00:26:56.520 pump up
00:26:57.600 like the J.D. Vance type
00:27:00.100 is just
00:27:00.700 really
00:27:01.500 fucking insulting.
00:27:03.920 Like,
00:27:04.500 we should be promoting
00:27:05.700 blonde,
00:27:06.940 German,
00:27:07.800 tall,
00:27:09.620 angular,
00:27:10.120 badasses.
00:27:11.480 That's the fucking
00:27:12.500 white race
00:27:13.440 in my opinion.
00:27:14.700 And even like,
00:27:17.100 Italians
00:27:17.660 and people
00:27:18.440 who are more fun
00:27:19.500 and like,
00:27:20.320 earthy
00:27:20.740 and passionate
00:27:21.540 or whatever,
00:27:22.100 that's also great too.
00:27:23.860 But just these
00:27:24.480 lifeless,
00:27:26.140 boring roundheads,
00:27:27.700 just go fuck...
00:27:29.020 Like,
00:27:29.700 you're embarrassing.
00:27:31.380 Yeah.
00:27:31.580 You're not...
00:27:32.160 You ain't...
00:27:32.620 In the words of John Wayne,
00:27:34.060 you ain't white.
00:27:35.080 Like,
00:27:35.820 you're not
00:27:36.480 the best of us.
00:27:38.020 And the fact
00:27:39.460 that you're from
00:27:40.040 a family
00:27:40.680 of psychopathic
00:27:42.240 drug-addled
00:27:44.020 criminals
00:27:44.660 just kind of
00:27:46.600 makes me think
00:27:47.380 that Oliver Holmes
00:27:48.520 was correct,
00:27:49.520 that the most
00:27:50.040 moral thing
00:27:50.780 to do
00:27:51.100 to the Vance family
00:27:52.100 is to sterilize them.
00:27:53.920 Sorry to be
00:27:54.660 this much
00:27:55.420 of an asshole,
00:27:56.380 but like,
00:27:56.840 I really hate
00:27:57.700 this motherfucker.
00:28:00.160 Well,
00:28:00.300 you should.
00:28:01.200 There's no
00:28:02.040 fucking
00:28:02.700 redeemable quality
00:28:03.840 to this piece
00:28:04.720 of shit.
00:28:06.380 He represents
00:28:07.200 physically
00:28:08.060 the degeneration
00:28:09.200 of a race.
00:28:10.120 Everybody should be
00:28:11.020 mad when they look
00:28:11.840 at him.
00:28:12.200 This is like...
00:28:13.060 There's like
00:28:13.940 another thing as well
00:28:14.560 that class
00:28:15.160 is very much like
00:28:16.080 classes don't come
00:28:18.840 out of nowhere.
00:28:19.700 It's often just
00:28:20.220 an expression
00:28:21.140 of like
00:28:22.720 racial differences.
00:28:24.620 I mean,
00:28:24.820 it's not...
00:28:25.500 Especially like
00:28:25.940 under a liberal society
00:28:26.940 because if you have
00:28:27.640 like feudalism
00:28:28.300 or whatever,
00:28:28.960 there's this
00:28:29.900 like stagnation.
00:28:33.120 Yeah,
00:28:33.340 I get it.
00:28:34.320 That's what I was
00:28:35.140 implying.
00:28:35.620 This is the other
00:28:36.380 thing I would say
00:28:37.360 that I kind of
00:28:39.080 almost regret
00:28:39.980 bringing this
00:28:40.700 being this much
00:28:41.820 of an asshole
00:28:42.500 towards him,
00:28:43.160 but there's no
00:28:44.480 fucking redeeming
00:28:45.580 quality to him
00:28:46.560 because like
00:28:48.160 I would...
00:28:49.560 Like,
00:28:49.780 I like things
00:28:50.900 that are
00:28:52.040 lower in a way.
00:28:54.420 You know,
00:28:54.720 like I...
00:28:56.200 I love going
00:28:58.200 to the
00:28:59.580 fucking
00:29:00.220 minor league
00:29:01.120 baseball team
00:29:02.380 here in the
00:29:03.140 Flathead Valley
00:29:03.960 where you have
00:29:04.880 a bunch of just
00:29:05.540 dudes drinking
00:29:06.520 beer and having
00:29:07.580 fun.
00:29:08.280 Now,
00:29:08.560 they are
00:29:08.880 the drug-addled
00:29:11.100 criminal class
00:29:12.200 that he derives
00:29:13.480 from,
00:29:14.180 but like
00:29:14.720 I don't
00:29:15.940 look down
00:29:16.680 upon them.
00:29:17.600 I like the fact
00:29:18.600 that they exist.
00:29:19.720 I think they're
00:29:20.240 pretty earthy
00:29:21.060 and they have
00:29:21.520 something to tell
00:29:22.300 me that I don't
00:29:22.960 know.
00:29:23.380 In fact,
00:29:23.780 they have an
00:29:24.400 experience,
00:29:25.300 but like
00:29:25.600 they're redeemable
00:29:27.620 in other words
00:29:28.420 in the sense
00:29:29.020 that they're
00:29:29.540 good-hearted
00:29:30.200 and kind
00:29:30.900 of fun.
00:29:33.180 And it's
00:29:33.880 like the
00:29:35.220 way he...
00:29:36.400 Like,
00:29:37.100 he understands
00:29:38.360 his redneck
00:29:39.960 background
00:29:40.580 is basically
00:29:41.500 like I
00:29:42.220 escaped
00:29:43.080 my criminal
00:29:45.040 family.
00:29:46.280 And you'll
00:29:46.540 learn more
00:29:46.980 about this.
00:29:48.060 Like,
00:29:48.400 psychopathy is
00:29:49.340 heritable and
00:29:50.300 there is no
00:29:51.160 question that he
00:29:52.040 comes from a
00:29:52.460 family of
00:29:53.160 psychopaths.
00:29:54.340 And I
00:29:55.220 think he's
00:29:55.620 actually
00:29:55.880 probably not
00:29:56.640 telling us
00:29:57.160 the whole
00:29:57.500 story of
00:29:58.920 this,
00:29:59.360 the Vance
00:30:00.020 clan.
00:30:02.180 But it's
00:30:03.200 like there's
00:30:03.980 nothing,
00:30:04.600 you don't,
00:30:04.960 he doesn't
00:30:05.340 even see
00:30:05.920 anything
00:30:06.280 redeemable in
00:30:07.360 his family.
00:30:08.080 He just
00:30:08.400 pities them
00:30:09.180 that they
00:30:09.880 haven't become
00:30:10.580 venture
00:30:11.020 capitalist.
00:30:11.620 And again,
00:30:15.020 I haven't
00:30:15.620 heard JD,
00:30:16.960 I haven't
00:30:17.220 heard any
00:30:18.100 policy proposal,
00:30:20.200 whether it's
00:30:21.960 community
00:30:22.820 college education,
00:30:24.760 bringing back
00:30:25.620 industrial jobs,
00:30:27.080 manufacturing,
00:30:29.040 Andrew Yang
00:30:30.180 style,
00:30:31.020 thousand dollars
00:30:31.920 a month,
00:30:32.500 basic minimum
00:30:33.260 income.
00:30:34.020 I haven't
00:30:34.420 heard fucking
00:30:35.120 anything from
00:30:36.220 your fat ass
00:30:37.400 outside of
00:30:38.660 get into
00:30:39.620 Yale Law
00:30:40.420 School,
00:30:41.060 write an
00:30:41.440 autobiography
00:30:42.380 and become
00:30:43.040 a venture
00:30:43.460 capitalist.
00:30:44.760 Has he
00:30:44.980 offered any
00:30:45.880 solution to
00:30:49.240 these problems?
00:30:51.000 Am I
00:30:51.860 wrong?
00:30:52.660 Please,
00:30:53.200 someone correct
00:30:53.940 me.
00:30:54.340 Someone tell
00:30:55.020 me what
00:30:55.960 this fat
00:30:57.160 fuck is
00:30:58.000 bringing to
00:30:58.600 the table.
00:30:59.660 I'm ready
00:31:00.860 and waiting.
00:31:02.140 His job
00:31:03.080 is to
00:31:03.820 make it
00:31:05.120 socially
00:31:05.860 acceptable to
00:31:07.200 hate poor
00:31:07.780 people again
00:31:08.480 in a way.
00:31:09.500 So he's
00:31:10.100 there as the
00:31:10.860 token.
00:31:11.880 I did
00:31:12.700 not need
00:31:13.160 government
00:31:13.540 programs to
00:31:14.280 do this
00:31:14.620 for me.
00:31:15.560 If you're
00:31:16.020 abject poverty,
00:31:17.060 all you have
00:31:17.540 to do is
00:31:17.980 be a
00:31:18.640 midwit like
00:31:19.180 me and
00:31:19.660 you can
00:31:19.920 crawl your
00:31:20.400 way up.
00:31:21.740 So his
00:31:22.180 job is
00:31:23.120 just to
00:31:23.540 say,
00:31:23.800 if someone
00:31:24.540 comes around
00:31:25.380 and says,
00:31:25.900 we need
00:31:26.620 some sort
00:31:27.480 of public
00:31:28.300 spending on
00:31:29.000 this issue,
00:31:29.860 he could
00:31:30.220 say,
00:31:30.740 are you
00:31:31.120 insulting my
00:31:32.000 people?
00:31:32.600 Do you
00:31:32.800 think we're
00:31:33.160 not good
00:31:33.600 enough to
00:31:34.060 do it on
00:31:34.460 our own?
00:31:34.800 Well,
00:31:35.160 the thing
00:31:35.640 is,
00:31:36.020 Yale has
00:31:36.840 a multi-billion
00:31:38.280 dollar endowment,
00:31:39.300 so they
00:31:39.540 can actually
00:31:40.220 offer more
00:31:40.960 assistance.
00:31:41.820 The degree
00:31:42.940 to which
00:31:44.080 that is not
00:31:45.260 a solution
00:31:45.900 to any
00:31:46.720 problem
00:31:47.360 cannot be
00:31:48.080 overstated.
00:31:48.820 The level
00:31:50.040 at which he
00:31:50.720 is offering
00:31:51.480 nothing
00:31:52.340 is
00:31:53.960 incredible.
00:31:56.660 And again,
00:31:57.860 I don't know,
00:31:59.260 JD,
00:31:59.540 is there
00:32:00.180 a problem
00:32:00.740 with logic
00:32:01.740 among your
00:32:02.640 folks?
00:32:04.460 You don't
00:32:04.900 logic so
00:32:05.660 good?
00:32:06.840 Because you
00:32:07.840 are offering
00:32:08.540 non-sequiturs
00:32:09.960 is what you
00:32:10.840 are doing.
00:32:11.280 You are not
00:32:11.900 intelligent.
00:32:12.860 That is my
00:32:13.380 impression.
00:32:14.100 I have no
00:32:14.660 earthly idea
00:32:15.660 why he became
00:32:16.520 the golden
00:32:16.980 boy and has
00:32:17.820 been chosen,
00:32:19.420 but I can
00:32:20.120 only conclude
00:32:21.200 that he has
00:32:21.760 been chosen
00:32:22.220 for cynical
00:32:22.940 reasons,
00:32:23.980 because he
00:32:24.780 is obnoxiously
00:32:26.520 unintelligent.
00:32:29.540 I fucking
00:32:30.620 hate this
00:32:31.160 person more
00:32:31.700 than Ron.
00:32:32.040 I hate
00:32:32.260 Ron DeSantis.
00:32:33.120 I loathe
00:32:34.800 this motherfucker.
00:32:36.920 I get this
00:32:37.960 feeling from
00:32:38.640 him and a
00:32:39.320 lot of other
00:32:39.840 conservatives
00:32:40.380 that it
00:32:41.280 seems like
00:32:41.760 they think
00:32:42.120 the only
00:32:42.420 real poor
00:32:43.080 people are
00:32:43.920 from Midwestern
00:32:45.520 steel towns.
00:32:47.000 If you're
00:32:47.340 not from
00:32:48.000 some place
00:32:49.280 with a
00:32:49.580 population
00:32:50.240 density of
00:32:51.640 beneath 2,000
00:32:53.080 out in the
00:32:54.060 country,
00:32:54.540 you're not
00:32:54.760 really a
00:32:55.280 poor person.
00:32:56.380 You're just
00:32:56.660 either a
00:32:58.220 mentally ill
00:32:58.860 homeless
00:32:59.260 dude or
00:32:59.700 a criminal
00:33:00.140 or a
00:33:00.400 queen.
00:33:01.360 Yeah,
00:33:01.560 something like
00:33:02.300 that.
00:33:02.760 He's like
00:33:03.300 that.
00:33:04.200 The noble
00:33:05.120 poor comes
00:33:06.120 from the
00:33:06.520 Midwest and
00:33:07.380 the Midwest
00:33:07.880 only.
00:33:08.900 Well, I
00:33:09.040 think it
00:33:09.360 helps to have
00:33:10.100 him on the
00:33:10.740 ticket to
00:33:11.200 say, oh,
00:33:11.900 Trump's rich
00:33:13.500 and this
00:33:14.120 guy's poor
00:33:14.700 and he made
00:33:15.160 it up.
00:33:15.460 He pulled
00:33:15.760 himself up
00:33:16.240 by the
00:33:16.440 bootstraps.
00:33:17.220 But the
00:33:17.420 whole idea
00:33:17.940 is he's
00:33:18.440 clearly not
00:33:19.020 offering any
00:33:19.500 solutions,
00:33:19.880 as you said,
00:33:20.520 and he's
00:33:20.940 just pulling
00:33:21.380 up the
00:33:21.680 ladder after
00:33:22.520 he's made
00:33:22.900 it up to
00:33:23.180 the top.
00:33:23.660 That's
00:33:24.340 fundamentally
00:33:25.220 who this
00:33:25.680 person is.
00:33:26.780 Like a
00:33:27.000 true psychopath.
00:33:27.740 He is a
00:33:29.720 psychopath.
00:33:30.480 Exactly.
00:33:31.100 And again,
00:33:32.080 the I know
00:33:33.080 is Dr.
00:33:34.000 Grande is
00:33:34.540 like, I'm
00:33:35.200 not here to
00:33:35.600 diagnose anyone
00:33:36.380 just merely
00:33:36.880 speculating.
00:33:37.860 It's like,
00:33:38.700 I'm like,
00:33:39.720 I'm diagnosing
00:33:40.500 diagnosing the
00:33:41.640 son of a
00:33:42.060 bitch.
00:33:43.080 He just
00:33:43.600 puts on
00:33:44.500 costumes like
00:33:45.820 he's going
00:33:46.680 to Halloween.
00:33:48.420 And who
00:33:48.840 is what
00:33:50.300 is is there
00:33:51.020 any there
00:33:51.780 there?
00:33:52.600 Is there
00:33:53.200 anything below
00:33:54.240 the layers
00:33:55.660 of fat?
00:33:56.400 This is
00:33:58.560 like a
00:33:58.900 good point
00:33:59.460 that he
00:33:59.740 brings up
00:34:00.160 that he's
00:34:00.660 fat and
00:34:01.200 psychopathic
00:34:01.840 because he
00:34:02.220 does lie
00:34:02.820 in his
00:34:03.180 autobiography
00:34:03.660 because I
00:34:04.120 didn't know
00:34:04.420 what he
00:34:04.700 looked like
00:34:05.200 for many
00:34:05.640 years,
00:34:05.940 but because
00:34:06.500 I read
00:34:06.780 his book
00:34:07.120 and I
00:34:07.320 sort of
00:34:07.640 like faded
00:34:08.080 to obscurity.
00:34:10.020 But he
00:34:10.220 does say
00:34:10.680 in his book
00:34:11.260 that,
00:34:11.580 and this
00:34:11.760 is something
00:34:11.960 that always
00:34:12.480 bothered me
00:34:13.800 since I
00:34:15.120 became more
00:34:17.440 in the media
00:34:17.880 and I know
00:34:18.180 what he
00:34:18.400 looks like
00:34:18.780 because he
00:34:19.140 does say
00:34:19.540 like,
00:34:19.820 I used to
00:34:20.120 be fat
00:34:20.500 as a kid
00:34:20.940 and I
00:34:21.180 joined the
00:34:21.500 Marine Corps
00:34:22.080 and I
00:34:22.320 lost all
00:34:22.680 my weight.
00:34:23.940 And then you
00:34:24.420 see pictures
00:34:24.940 of him
00:34:25.420 both in
00:34:26.840 the military
00:34:27.260 and now
00:34:27.940 and you
00:34:28.500 just think
00:34:28.800 you always
00:34:29.780 were like
00:34:30.160 a fat
00:34:30.720 like why
00:34:31.240 are you
00:34:31.420 lying about
00:34:31.940 this?
00:34:32.300 And it's
00:34:32.840 just such a
00:34:33.340 thing.
00:34:34.000 I mean,
00:34:34.640 you're lying
00:34:35.140 to the
00:34:35.800 libtars
00:34:37.080 who are
00:34:37.320 buying this
00:34:37.820 kind of
00:34:38.080 book about
00:34:38.580 class
00:34:38.940 journey
00:34:39.340 or whatever.
00:34:40.400 There's another
00:34:40.760 thing I want
00:34:41.100 to bring up.
00:34:42.620 I mean,
00:34:43.340 class
00:34:43.680 journey,
00:34:44.220 that's not
00:34:45.420 really a
00:34:45.960 thing because
00:34:46.600 if you look
00:34:47.120 at,
00:34:47.720 this is
00:34:47.980 particularly
00:34:48.760 obvious in
00:34:49.640 the South
00:34:49.980 but also
00:34:50.300 other places
00:34:50.780 as well.
00:34:51.760 There are
00:34:52.020 groups in
00:34:52.940 America who
00:34:53.420 have had
00:34:53.760 the same
00:34:54.420 social
00:34:55.000 economic
00:34:55.920 status for
00:34:57.460 hundreds of
00:34:58.020 years,
00:34:58.280 including
00:34:58.600 his.
00:34:59.320 I mean,
00:34:59.460 so there
00:34:59.680 is no
00:35:00.160 thing about
00:35:00.840 that for
00:35:01.960 HPD
00:35:02.480 reasons,
00:35:02.920 for IQ
00:35:03.420 reasons and
00:35:04.060 such.
00:35:05.380 Yeah,
00:35:05.720 upward
00:35:06.040 mobility.
00:35:06.620 as opposed
00:35:08.000 to finding
00:35:08.640 something
00:35:09.060 redeemable
00:35:09.920 in those
00:35:10.740 people.
00:35:11.340 Look,
00:35:12.140 you can't
00:35:12.880 have a
00:35:13.500 fucking
00:35:13.800 society.
00:35:15.000 I can't
00:35:15.220 believe I
00:35:15.480 have to
00:35:15.680 tell an
00:35:16.420 idiot like
00:35:17.080 J.D.
00:35:17.420 Vance's.
00:35:18.120 There is
00:35:18.560 no society
00:35:20.040 ever that
00:35:21.640 is going to
00:35:22.100 be a bunch
00:35:22.860 of Yale
00:35:23.480 graduate
00:35:24.060 venture
00:35:24.680 capitalists.
00:35:26.260 Someone has
00:35:27.820 got to
00:35:28.600 fix the
00:35:29.840 plumbing.
00:35:31.400 Someone's
00:35:32.080 got to
00:35:32.440 make the
00:35:33.120 burger for
00:35:33.840 you.
00:35:34.440 Someone has
00:35:34.940 to pick
00:35:35.400 up the
00:35:35.700 trash,
00:35:36.260 I'm afraid
00:35:36.720 to say.
00:35:37.760 Someone has
00:35:39.360 to be the
00:35:40.620 youth pastor
00:35:41.480 in your
00:35:42.560 rural community.
00:35:43.840 That is,
00:35:44.440 you need
00:35:45.020 people who
00:35:46.220 are kind
00:35:46.820 of not
00:35:48.060 Yale
00:35:49.480 quality people
00:35:50.820 for any
00:35:51.480 society to
00:35:52.380 function.
00:35:53.980 And the
00:35:54.220 question is,
00:35:55.140 are you going
00:35:55.560 to treat
00:35:56.080 those people
00:35:56.660 like crap
00:35:57.500 or are you
00:35:58.860 going to
00:35:59.060 find redeemable
00:36:00.280 qualities to
00:36:02.060 average folk
00:36:03.520 or are you
00:36:04.860 going to
00:36:05.120 worry about
00:36:06.400 why they
00:36:07.160 didn't get
00:36:08.540 a scholarship
00:36:09.320 from Yale?
00:36:10.840 It's just
00:36:11.620 absurd.
00:36:13.780 It is
00:36:14.540 absurd what
00:36:16.060 this guy is
00:36:16.740 talking about.
00:36:18.500 I even think
00:36:19.500 I was being
00:36:19.920 too nice to
00:36:20.760 him by
00:36:21.060 suggesting that
00:36:21.720 he's intelligent.
00:36:22.680 He's not
00:36:23.340 intelligent.
00:36:24.060 He's wily.
00:36:25.720 He doesn't
00:36:26.580 understand the
00:36:27.340 truth of the
00:36:28.140 matter.
00:36:28.600 He can't
00:36:29.040 think logically.
00:36:30.160 He can just
00:36:30.740 say what you
00:36:31.740 want to hear.
00:36:32.200 He's this
00:36:32.840 wily and
00:36:34.440 sophist,
00:36:36.340 as Plato
00:36:36.740 would say,
00:36:37.120 intelligence.
00:36:38.400 It's all
00:36:38.800 bullshit.
00:36:40.500 And they're
00:36:41.600 pretty common
00:36:42.120 place in my
00:36:42.740 family.
00:36:44.200 Importantly,
00:36:44.900 they're not
00:36:45.180 just common
00:36:45.660 place in my
00:36:46.180 family right
00:36:46.700 now.
00:36:47.420 They're also
00:36:47.880 multi-generational.
00:36:49.420 So my
00:36:49.800 grandparents,
00:36:51.340 the very
00:36:52.100 first time
00:36:52.900 that they
00:36:53.540 had kids,
00:36:54.460 they expected
00:36:55.120 that they
00:36:55.460 were going
00:36:55.700 to raise
00:36:56.060 them in a
00:36:56.620 way that
00:36:57.020 was uniquely
00:36:58.120 good.
00:36:58.800 They were
00:36:59.080 middle class.
00:37:00.000 They were
00:37:00.360 able to earn
00:37:00.820 a good wage
00:37:01.320 in a steel
00:37:01.720 mill.
00:37:02.200 But what
00:37:02.900 ended up
00:37:03.180 happening is
00:37:04.080 that they
00:37:04.620 exposed their
00:37:05.280 kids to a
00:37:05.920 lot of the
00:37:06.200 childhood trauma
00:37:06.880 that had
00:37:07.200 gone back
00:37:07.740 many generations.
00:37:09.720 My mom
00:37:10.040 was 12 when
00:37:11.200 she saw my
00:37:12.080 grandma set
00:37:12.860 my grandfather
00:37:13.520 on fire.
00:37:15.160 His crime
00:37:16.020 was that he
00:37:16.920 came home
00:37:17.380 drunk after
00:37:18.300 she told him,
00:37:19.340 if you come
00:37:19.720 home drunk,
00:37:20.300 I'm going to
00:37:20.920 kill him.
00:37:21.100 That is,
00:37:21.600 you are from
00:37:22.200 a family of
00:37:22.880 psychopaths.
00:37:23.860 Period.
00:37:24.340 End of
00:37:24.640 statement.
00:37:25.960 You're from
00:37:26.640 a family of
00:37:27.600 criminally insane
00:37:28.580 psychopaths.
00:37:29.500 You don't
00:37:30.580 set people
00:37:31.460 on fucking
00:37:32.160 fire.
00:37:34.480 I don't
00:37:35.140 know what
00:37:35.420 to fucking
00:37:36.080 tell you.
00:37:37.120 There are
00:37:37.380 people like
00:37:38.760 rural poverty
00:37:39.840 in Montana
00:37:40.940 that don't
00:37:42.260 fucking act
00:37:43.160 that way.
00:37:43.820 Margaret Sanger
00:37:47.140 was right.
00:37:48.800 Yes.
00:37:49.520 And
00:37:49.840 psychopathy
00:37:50.880 is significantly
00:37:52.400 heritable.
00:37:53.200 It's not like
00:37:53.780 eye color or
00:37:54.580 something.
00:37:55.240 It's heritable.
00:37:57.160 And these
00:37:57.940 multi-generational
00:37:59.420 poverty,
00:38:00.020 what is he even
00:38:01.000 talking about
00:38:01.800 when these
00:38:02.920 people had
00:38:03.780 high wages
00:38:04.580 50 years ago,
00:38:05.560 but apparently
00:38:06.120 they're still
00:38:06.580 setting their
00:38:07.720 family members
00:38:08.720 aflame.
00:38:10.480 So maybe
00:38:10.860 there's something
00:38:11.520 else going on
00:38:12.380 here.
00:38:12.520 I don't
00:38:13.740 even think
00:38:14.140 he's even
00:38:14.580 gesturing
00:38:15.380 towards
00:38:15.780 reviving
00:38:16.940 manufacturing.
00:38:18.000 He's only
00:38:18.460 gesturing
00:38:18.960 towards
00:38:19.280 get into
00:38:19.920 Yale Law
00:38:20.480 School.
00:38:21.320 But even
00:38:21.720 if he
00:38:22.040 were,
00:38:22.740 it doesn't
00:38:23.200 even make
00:38:23.840 sense.
00:38:25.360 His argument
00:38:25.920 has no
00:38:26.500 validity.
00:38:27.060 He's offering
00:38:27.620 evidence that
00:38:28.820 goes against
00:38:29.600 what he's
00:38:30.080 saying because
00:38:30.880 he is a
00:38:31.800 sophist
00:38:33.200 idiot.
00:38:35.020 I am
00:38:35.560 just,
00:38:36.260 my level
00:38:37.100 of contempt
00:38:37.920 for J.D.
00:38:38.560 I mean,
00:38:39.360 I didn't even
00:38:40.060 know how much
00:38:40.980 I hated him
00:38:41.740 until I started
00:38:42.440 looking into
00:38:43.060 it.
00:38:43.620 It's really
00:38:44.140 sad when
00:38:45.300 psychopaths
00:38:46.400 destroy other
00:38:47.340 people's lives.
00:38:48.800 But what is
00:38:49.700 the answer to
00:38:50.400 this?
00:38:50.820 Get into
00:38:51.340 Yale.
00:38:51.840 That is the
00:38:52.300 only answer
00:38:53.160 that I have
00:38:54.080 heard him
00:38:54.480 offer.
00:38:55.220 The way that
00:38:55.720 that affects
00:38:56.540 a child's
00:38:57.240 mind.
00:38:57.500 Wow, I
00:38:57.960 wonder if
00:38:58.420 murder might
00:38:59.320 affect a
00:39:00.340 child.
00:39:01.500 Thank you,
00:39:04.240 JD.
00:39:04.500 Let me think
00:39:05.220 about that for
00:39:05.800 a little bit,
00:39:06.220 JD.
00:39:06.860 You're so
00:39:07.360 profound.
00:39:08.000 I mean,
00:39:09.880 what the
00:39:10.280 fuck is
00:39:11.080 this?
00:39:11.960 Oh, there's
00:39:12.380 a study.
00:39:13.320 A study
00:39:13.780 by the
00:39:14.160 Wisconsin
00:39:14.520 Children's
00:39:15.060 Trust Fund
00:39:15.540 found that
00:39:16.440 40% of
00:39:18.100 low-income
00:39:18.560 kids face
00:39:19.680 multiple
00:39:20.400 instances of
00:39:21.120 childhood
00:39:21.400 trauma compared
00:39:22.920 to only 29%
00:39:24.040 for upper-income
00:39:24.920 kids.
00:39:25.160 Of children
00:39:25.520 who witness
00:39:26.380 intrafamilial
00:39:28.740 murder
00:39:29.620 don't get
00:39:31.860 into Yale
00:39:32.380 Law School.
00:39:33.220 There's a
00:39:33.980 fascinating
00:39:34.460 new study
00:39:35.440 that's just
00:39:36.580 out.
00:39:36.900 Yeah.
00:39:38.000 What the
00:39:39.580 fuck is
00:39:40.160 this guy?
00:39:40.680 Scientific
00:39:41.040 community
00:39:41.600 on its
00:39:42.600 head.
00:39:44.020 It's
00:39:44.340 counterintuitive.
00:39:47.820 I mean,
00:39:48.660 what the
00:39:49.060 fuck is
00:39:50.300 this?
00:39:52.440 Why did
00:39:53.320 liberals buy
00:39:54.080 this?
00:39:54.660 This is like
00:39:55.460 the midwit
00:39:56.560 like Jesus
00:39:58.560 basically.
00:40:03.100 Wow.
00:40:04.780 What that
00:40:05.540 really means.
00:40:06.560 If you're a
00:40:07.180 low-income
00:40:07.580 kid,
00:40:08.500 almost half
00:40:09.500 of you
00:40:09.880 face multiple
00:40:11.040 instances of
00:40:11.840 childhood trauma,
00:40:12.780 this is not an
00:40:13.580 isolated problem.
00:40:14.780 This is a very
00:40:15.440 significant issue.
00:40:17.340 We know what
00:40:18.160 happens to the
00:40:19.200 kids who
00:40:19.640 experience that
00:40:20.420 life.
00:40:21.440 They're more
00:40:22.160 likely to do
00:40:22.720 drugs,
00:40:23.340 more likely to
00:40:23.940 go to jail,
00:40:24.920 more likely to
00:40:25.800 drop out of
00:40:26.260 high school,
00:40:27.280 and most
00:40:27.960 importantly,
00:40:28.720 they're more
00:40:29.320 likely to do
00:40:30.080 to their
00:40:30.580 children what
00:40:31.340 their parents
00:40:31.980 did to them.
00:40:32.920 this trauma,
00:40:35.020 this chaos in
00:40:35.920 the home is
00:40:36.860 our culture's
00:40:37.620 very worst
00:40:38.480 gift to our
00:40:39.360 children,
00:40:40.200 and it's a
00:40:40.560 gift that
00:40:41.340 keeps on
00:40:41.900 giving.
00:40:41.920 That's why we
00:40:42.080 should continue
00:40:42.700 that gift.
00:40:43.320 We should
00:40:43.560 continue that
00:40:44.240 gift for
00:40:45.120 generation and
00:40:45.960 generation in
00:40:47.240 Virginia and all
00:40:48.260 these places,
00:40:48.780 because these are
00:40:49.360 the real Americans.
00:40:50.660 We just need to
00:40:51.500 continue that
00:40:52.180 forever.
00:40:53.300 So you
00:41:00.940 combine all
00:41:01.540 that, the
00:41:02.720 hopelessness, the
00:41:04.140 despair, the
00:41:05.520 cynicism about
00:41:06.240 the future, the
00:41:07.720 childhood trauma,
00:41:09.840 the low social
00:41:10.640 capital, and you
00:41:12.040 begin to understand
00:41:12.960 why me, at the
00:41:14.380 age of 14, was
00:41:15.940 ready to become
00:41:16.700 just another
00:41:17.560 statistic, another
00:41:18.300 kid who failed to
00:41:19.600 beat the odds.
00:41:20.900 But something
00:41:22.100 unexpected happened.
00:41:23.300 I did beat the
00:41:24.540 odds.
00:41:25.580 Things turned up
00:41:26.820 for me.
00:41:27.760 I graduated from
00:41:28.380 high school, from
00:41:29.380 college, I went to
00:41:30.480 law school, and I
00:41:31.660 have a pretty good
00:41:32.240 job now.
00:41:33.740 So what happened?
00:41:35.460 Well, one thing
00:41:36.180 that happened is
00:41:36.820 that my grandparents,
00:41:37.760 the same grandparents
00:41:38.520 of setting someone
00:41:39.400 on fire fame, they
00:41:40.880 really shaped up by
00:41:41.820 the time I came
00:41:42.620 around.
00:41:43.760 They provided me a
00:41:45.440 stable home, a
00:41:46.960 stable family.
00:41:48.080 They made sure that
00:41:49.020 when my parents
00:41:49.780 weren't able to do
00:41:50.560 the things that kids
00:41:51.360 need, they stepped
00:41:52.680 in and filled that
00:41:53.640 role.
00:41:55.320 My grandma especially
00:41:56.320 did two things that
00:41:57.280 really mattered.
00:41:57.920 One, she provided that
00:41:59.320 peaceful home that
00:42:00.140 allowed me to focus on
00:42:01.080 homework and the things
00:42:02.040 that kids should be
00:42:02.820 focused on.
00:42:04.080 But she was also this
00:42:04.940 incredibly perceptive
00:42:05.920 woman, despite not even
00:42:06.980 having a middle school
00:42:07.860 education.
00:42:08.500 She recognized the
00:42:09.840 message that my
00:42:10.600 community had for me,
00:42:11.640 that my choices didn't
00:42:13.020 matter, that the deck
00:42:14.240 was stacked against me.
00:42:15.200 She once told me,
00:42:16.160 J.D., never be like
00:42:18.240 those losers who think
00:42:19.400 the deck is stacked
00:42:20.120 against them.
00:42:20.780 You can do anything
00:42:21.700 you want to.
00:42:23.160 And yet she recognized
00:42:24.540 that life wasn't fair.
00:42:26.340 It's hard to strike that
00:42:27.480 balance, to tell a kid
00:42:28.800 that life isn't fair,
00:42:30.080 but also recognize and
00:42:31.760 enforce in them the
00:42:33.600 reality that their
00:42:34.380 choices matter.
00:42:35.400 But Mammal was able to
00:42:36.300 strike that balance.
00:42:39.180 The other thing that
00:42:39.980 really helped was the
00:42:40.840 United States Marine
00:42:41.540 Corps.
00:42:41.980 So we think of the
00:42:42.560 Marine Corps as a
00:42:43.140 military outfit, and of
00:42:44.240 course it is.
00:42:45.240 But for me, the U.S.
00:42:46.340 Marine Corps was a
00:42:47.060 four-year crash course
00:42:48.140 in character education,
00:42:49.480 taught me how to make
00:42:50.000 a bed, how to do
00:42:50.840 laundry, how to wake
00:42:51.940 up early, how to
00:42:53.100 manage my finances.
00:42:54.760 These are things my
00:42:55.540 community didn't teach
00:42:56.460 me.
00:42:57.220 I remember when I went
00:42:57.860 to go buy a car for
00:42:58.940 the very first time,
00:43:00.260 I was offered a dealer's
00:43:01.620 low, low interest rate
00:43:02.620 of 21.9%.
00:43:04.260 I was ready to sign on
00:43:06.320 the dotted line.
00:43:08.060 But I didn't take that
00:43:09.560 deal, because I went
00:43:10.520 and took it to my
00:43:11.280 officer, who told me,
00:43:13.040 stop being an idiot,
00:43:13.820 go to the local credit
00:43:15.060 union, and get a
00:43:15.820 better deal.
00:43:16.780 And so that's what I
00:43:17.360 did.
00:43:18.180 But without the Marine
00:43:18.760 Corps, I would have
00:43:19.180 never had access to that.
00:43:19.540 My level of contempt is
00:43:20.700 so high for this.
00:43:24.320 He even destroys
00:43:26.440 military honor.
00:43:29.000 We think of the Marine
00:43:29.820 Corps as a military
00:43:30.540 outfit.
00:43:31.700 But no.
00:43:32.560 Actually, yeah.
00:43:34.060 I want the military to
00:43:35.760 be a bunch of bad
00:43:37.180 asses, maniacs.
00:43:39.080 Yes.
00:43:39.360 That's the idea that you
00:43:42.040 go to the military to
00:43:43.660 learn that 21% interest
00:43:46.440 rate is a bit much.
00:43:48.640 You should go to a
00:43:49.340 like, isn't it amazing
00:43:51.020 that I learned that?
00:43:52.100 Like, no, it's not.
00:43:55.820 Yeah.
00:43:56.440 Yeah.
00:43:56.960 Probably Meemaw should
00:43:58.660 have taught you that or
00:43:59.560 whatever.
00:44:00.240 But also, who the fuck
00:44:01.720 cares?
00:44:03.200 Like, who the fuck
00:44:04.560 cares that you might
00:44:06.160 have paid $2,000 of
00:44:08.480 interest on a $10,000
00:44:10.740 used automobile?
00:44:11.960 Who the fuck cares?
00:44:14.200 Seriously.
00:44:15.020 Like, wow.
00:44:15.780 Marine Corps saved me.
00:44:16.580 Who cares?
00:44:17.360 I've wasted money in my
00:44:18.780 life.
00:44:19.060 Who the fuck cares?
00:44:20.120 I don't look down on
00:44:21.520 someone who's like,
00:44:22.640 fucking A.
00:44:23.460 You know, I was such an
00:44:24.240 idiot.
00:44:24.600 I bought a car.
00:44:25.360 It's too expensive.
00:44:26.080 And I, whew, I lost
00:44:27.840 20 grand.
00:44:28.660 I'm such an idiot.
00:44:29.480 Yeah.
00:44:29.740 It's like, yeah.
00:44:31.100 That kind of happens.
00:44:32.300 Who cares?
00:44:34.800 Yeah.
00:44:35.040 He's not special.
00:44:36.520 He's not special.
00:44:37.380 He's not this unique
00:44:38.260 person who's had all
00:44:40.400 this terrible things
00:44:41.360 happen to him.
00:44:42.180 And, ah, I just
00:44:44.460 happened to survive.
00:44:45.360 I just happened to
00:44:46.100 make my way through
00:44:46.960 this world, this cruel
00:44:48.220 world.
00:44:48.740 Pretty good job with
00:44:50.160 Peter Thiel.
00:44:50.960 And, you know, what
00:44:52.460 do they see in this
00:44:53.880 fucking person?
00:44:54.620 I mean, I can only
00:44:56.320 suggest that there is
00:44:58.300 some like cynical,
00:44:59.640 like profoundly
00:45:01.540 cynical, almost
00:45:02.920 like hateful
00:45:04.420 urge that people
00:45:05.920 see in him in
00:45:06.880 order to promote
00:45:07.540 him.
00:45:08.260 Hmm.
00:45:08.880 Yeah.
00:45:09.460 Yeah.
00:45:10.420 Like this is the
00:45:11.720 way to win over
00:45:12.920 redneck populists
00:45:14.300 and bring them
00:45:15.180 towards our like
00:45:16.600 tech accelerationist
00:45:18.480 society.
00:45:18.940 We're going to have
00:45:19.520 to trick them all
00:45:20.580 into this.
00:45:21.960 Right.
00:45:22.380 And he seems like
00:45:23.100 he would be able
00:45:23.700 to present that
00:45:25.380 face, present both
00:45:26.700 faces, one to the
00:45:29.120 tech, one to the
00:45:29.780 hillbillies.
00:45:31.260 It's I don't think
00:45:32.600 he can do it, but
00:45:33.280 it's just ridiculous
00:45:34.040 that the notion
00:45:35.200 that this is their
00:45:37.120 plan, that this is
00:45:38.000 their grand scheme.
00:45:42.080 Yeah.
00:45:43.520 Unbelievable.
00:45:47.280 Knowledge.
00:45:48.080 I would have.
00:45:48.840 It's not even that
00:45:49.480 financial calamity,
00:45:50.500 frankly.
00:45:52.200 Last thing I want
00:45:52.860 to say is that I
00:45:53.880 had a lot of good
00:45:54.680 fortune in the
00:45:55.660 mentors and people
00:45:56.540 who have played an
00:45:57.520 important role in my
00:45:58.280 life, from the
00:45:58.840 Marines, from Ohio
00:46:00.200 State, from Yale,
00:46:02.000 from other places.
00:46:03.380 People have really
00:46:04.180 stepped in and
00:46:05.280 ensured that they
00:46:06.320 filled that social
00:46:07.300 capital gap that it
00:46:08.200 was pretty obvious
00:46:08.920 apparently that I
00:46:09.640 had.
00:46:10.680 That comes from
00:46:11.600 good fortune.
00:46:12.700 Okay.
00:46:13.360 But a lot of
00:46:13.780 children aren't
00:46:14.480 going to have that
00:46:15.160 good fortune.
00:46:15.640 We're getting to
00:46:16.080 something.
00:46:16.680 He's going to
00:46:17.040 offer a solution.
00:46:17.140 I think that raises
00:46:17.500 really important
00:46:18.340 questions for all
00:46:19.440 of us about how
00:46:20.780 we're going to
00:46:21.140 change that.
00:46:23.040 We need to ask
00:46:23.620 questions about how
00:46:24.740 we're going to give
00:46:25.640 low-income kids who
00:46:27.160 come from a broken
00:46:27.920 home access to a
00:46:29.500 loving home.
00:46:30.560 We need to ask
00:46:31.100 questions about how
00:46:32.160 we're going to teach
00:46:32.880 low-income parents how
00:46:33.940 to better interact
00:46:34.860 with their children,
00:46:36.400 with their partners.
00:46:37.880 We need to ask
00:46:38.340 questions about how
00:46:39.680 we give social
00:46:41.240 capital, mentorship
00:46:42.980 to low-income kids
00:46:44.460 who don't have it.
00:46:45.780 We need to think
00:46:46.380 about how we teach
00:46:47.340 working-class children
00:46:48.420 about not just
00:46:50.420 hard skills like
00:46:51.620 reading, mathematics,
00:46:53.240 but also soft skills
00:46:54.820 like conflict resolution
00:46:56.220 and financial management.
00:46:57.400 How all the fat in his
00:46:58.740 body is.
00:46:59.160 Now, I don't have
00:47:00.560 all of the answers.
00:47:01.640 like a Christian.
00:47:02.900 Like, it's just, it's
00:47:06.680 like the lack of
00:47:08.140 idealism is just
00:47:10.580 staggering.
00:47:12.860 Yeah.
00:47:13.900 You know, like, this
00:47:15.900 is the guy being
00:47:16.700 promoted by, you
00:47:18.100 know, like Harzoni and
00:47:19.380 national conservatives,
00:47:20.860 you know, Jewish and
00:47:22.580 Catholic alliance for
00:47:24.780 nationalism.
00:47:25.700 like, like the lack
00:47:28.440 of idealism.
00:47:31.360 Again, just to repeat
00:47:32.420 myself, it's just, it's
00:47:33.580 just breathtaking.
00:47:36.480 Yeah.
00:47:37.340 Yeah.
00:47:37.740 It's just, we're asking
00:47:38.640 these questions.
00:47:39.520 We need to find the
00:47:40.300 answer, but there's no
00:47:41.480 answer in sight.
00:47:42.320 So what are we going to
00:47:43.320 do?
00:47:43.420 No, he does not offer
00:47:44.600 an answer.
00:47:45.440 And the only anecdotes
00:47:46.880 he's offered is about
00:47:47.760 how not to get ripped
00:47:48.780 off by a used car
00:47:50.120 dealer.
00:47:50.740 Right.
00:47:51.220 Like literally,
00:47:51.920 literally, that is the
00:47:53.600 anecdote.
00:47:54.160 this is one of the
00:48:00.380 most contemptible
00:48:01.920 pieces of shit I
00:48:04.180 have ever encountered.
00:48:05.780 Like, you know, it's
00:48:07.740 that like, do you want
00:48:08.700 to have a beer with
00:48:09.580 someone or do like
00:48:10.680 I would there, I
00:48:13.640 would rather turn down
00:48:15.100 a beer offered by this
00:48:16.680 guy.
00:48:17.200 Yeah.
00:48:17.380 I would rather have a
00:48:18.580 beer with like a random
00:48:20.320 moron from Nebraska.
00:48:22.440 I genuinely believe
00:48:24.960 would have like more
00:48:26.620 like humanity and kind
00:48:29.000 of insight into the
00:48:30.440 world.
00:48:31.260 More interesting stories.
00:48:32.200 Yeah.
00:48:32.700 Sitting in more
00:48:33.540 interesting, more fun
00:48:35.160 and can tell a joke.
00:48:37.020 Yeah.
00:48:37.960 Unlike this fat fuck
00:48:39.520 whose anecdotes are
00:48:40.780 like, oh, I was so
00:48:41.740 embarrassed at a
00:48:42.560 restaurant or whatever.
00:48:43.380 Like the level at
00:48:46.200 which like the
00:48:48.000 vast majority of
00:48:49.720 people in this
00:48:51.120 country are more
00:48:52.680 fun and insightful
00:48:54.220 and redeemable than
00:48:56.040 this piece of shit
00:48:57.280 is just staggering.
00:48:59.660 ring.