The group discusses Donald Trump's recent executive order effectively banning serious criticism of Zionism and Jewish influence on America's campuses. They further discuss the evergreen issue of social media deplatforming, as well as the hyper-real that is when you only have a life online.
00:00:00.360Final topic. It's literally illegal now. The group discusses Donald Trump's recent executive order effectively banning serious criticism of Zionism and Jewish influence on America's campuses.
00:00:17.340They further discuss the evergreen issue of social media deplatforming, as well as the hyper real that is when you only have a life online.
00:00:27.360OK, so the next topic is with regards to anti-Semitism and Trump. And Richard, I believe you have some news for us.
00:00:36.360Yes. Well, Trump signed an executive order on negating birthright citizenship. Breaking news.
00:00:45.100Oh, wait, that was just the lie that he told everyone before the midterms when he went on Axios television and announced that we have people looking into this.
00:00:55.780And I can just do it with the stroke of a pen. But that was all a he had a bubble with us, as the Coctis might say.
00:01:04.720And he instead issued a recent executive order.
00:01:10.000He did it while he was surrounded by great lions of industry and sports like Alan Dershowitz and Robert Kraft.
00:01:20.580I guess Jeffrey Epstein couldn't make it. He's otherwise disposed.
00:01:25.680But he he he he he basically put forth an executive order that was actually kind of it was it was both very bad just from a superficial standpoint.
00:01:39.740But I think kind of on a deeper level, very good.
00:01:43.320And it was a condemnation of anti-Semitism in the universities.
00:01:48.260The universities are certainly a hotbed of leftism of all sorts.
00:01:52.320And that actually includes anti-Zionism and the BDS movement that is about boycotting Israeli industry.
00:02:03.160And I have known about these things for, you know, back when I was at university.
00:02:08.760I mean, 10, 20 years. I didn't know how impactful they are, but they clearly are making some kind of difference.
00:02:17.240Otherwise, they would not be condemned directly by presidents.
00:02:21.260And so he effectively outlawed these clearly free speech movements of saying, let's boycott this country because we oppose their foreign policy or their domestic policy.
00:02:37.500And one aspect of this executive order was the declaration that Jews are not just a, I don't know, religious domination, denomination or something like that.
00:02:50.380However, they were kind of incorrectly conceived, but they are a race.
00:02:54.240And thus, something like the boycott Israel movement is race is a civil rights violation.
00:03:03.160It goes in that, I think, is actually very interesting.
00:03:08.100And that, I think, will have a myriad of unintended consequences.
00:03:13.760I, on some weird level, I support this executive action, because things that were implicit are becoming explicit.
00:03:26.220The first of those is the prohibition against criticism of Zionism, or you could say Zionist influence in America, or you could say Jewish influence.
00:03:37.000We have known for a very long time that there are some things you cannot criticize.
00:03:42.760You can have all sorts of opinions on Medicare or cultural issues, abortion and gay marriage or whatever, but you simply cannot criticize America's relationship with Israel, its funding of Israel's armed forces, its foreign policy, which seems to be at the very least skewed in the direction of Israel and to the detriment of having decent relations with countries like Iran or Syria and others.
00:04:12.760If you criticize that, if you criticize that, if you criticize that, that was a step too far, you would be kicked out of the conservative movement, and you would be kicked out of left liberal movements as well.
00:04:23.520You can do that at academia, which is an interesting thing.
00:04:30.140And the fact that they made that implicit law explicit, I think, is a good thing.
00:04:38.020I would prefer explicit, say, speech codes on YouTube, which we could at the very least follow, as opposed to this vague, you're inciting hatred against communities or however it's defined, where we don't know what we can and cannot say.
00:04:57.740I support prohibitions that are in writing so that, A, it's made clear who you can and cannot talk about, and it's clear for the content creators of, OK, well, we can dance around this issue a little bit.
00:05:12.800If we want to go wild in the subject, we can do it somewhere else.
00:06:21.680I am generally on YouTube, and I don't think I'm going to be kicked off.
00:06:27.920But I've had videos taken down that are fairly innocuous.
00:06:33.020It's a Become Who We Are video that I did with Mark Brahman that had all this music and imageries of, like, Excalibur and the Stone and people looking off into sunsets and women in wheat fields and things like that.
00:08:06.120But it's – but I think on a – so again, to reiterate, I am actually happy that this is done just because it makes things that are implicit explicit.
00:08:19.940You can't criticize the Jews, and the Jews are equivalent to Zionism, and the Jews are a race.
00:08:26.680And the other aspect which I like about it is that it correctly understands Jews as a race.
00:08:31.080Now, I think – you know, we have this Protestant position in the United States and elsewhere of the separation of church and state, and kind of like religion is something you do in your home, and it's all individualistic, and you can convert, and so on.
00:08:48.040And that's a very improper understanding of what religion is.
00:08:54.380Jews are a race, but they're also a religion, and those things shouldn't be separate.
00:08:59.280Much as I don't think we can understand, say, the history of Europe without understanding religious history and how that impacted us as a people, et cetera.
00:09:11.140Jews are a race, and they're a religion.
00:09:16.740This is not a loosey-goosey evangelical goofball religion that's going and converting Africans.
00:09:24.040To convert to Judaism is quite an ordeal, and it happens extremely rarely.
00:09:28.920It is – Judaism is a certain type of evolutionary strategy for a people, and it has been wildly successful in the sense that this people is still defined.
00:09:41.440They were defined in the Roman Empire.
00:09:45.460They are still a people in the way that, say, the Visigoths really aren't.
00:09:50.460And so it is a race and a religion, and so I commend Donald Trump for doing this, for correctly identifying Jews as a race and not just as a religion and correctly identifying Zionism as one aspect, certainly not the only one, of an evolutionary strategy.
00:10:09.580So, again, obviously this is dripping with irony, but I ultimately do think that this executive order was a good thing.
00:10:19.100So, my first thought when you told us this was, could this benefit us?
00:10:25.140Because we've all seen, you know, Jews write on Twitter, my fellow white people.
00:10:29.540And then when people say back to them, but Jews aren't white, then people say, you're not allowed to say that.
00:10:34.580And now it's been made explicit, so it's like, well, actually, you know, we can just point them towards this piece of evidence.
00:10:44.720Well, yeah, I think it is good to sort out this ambiguity,
00:10:47.280because one of the things they like to go on about, they say, oh, Dian Abbas and Bernie Grant were the first non-white MPs elected to the House of Commons ever in 987.
00:10:57.260A, that's not true because there was a Sikh that was elected in about 1900 or 1892 or something.
00:11:01.920And B, there's been lots of Jewish people that were elected to the House of Commons, and they're not white, and they're the descendants of immigrants.
00:11:09.320Well, the disconnection to Israel is...
00:11:11.380They openly identified. He said, well, while your ancestors were rolling in the mud, my ancestors were, you know, I don't know, bringing the Ten Commandments down from Mount Sinai.
00:11:22.880His father was a convert, but yeah, he was ethnically Jewish, and lots of others as well.
00:11:28.840So, of course, they're a separate, well, whether they're a separate race, they're a separate ethnic group that is perhaps within the Semitic race, I suppose you could put it like that.
00:11:40.140But always a Klein, perhaps one could argue that. They are a Klein genetically, which they are, actually.
00:11:48.140They're about 40% white, sometimes more than that, but then the rest is Smith.
00:11:53.480So, yes, it's a sensible thing to do. It's a bit of truth in a world of lies, so that's quite good.
00:11:59.780Last, something stated to be true and clear and direct, that's what we need.
00:12:04.860Things should be clear and direct. You can't criticise, like, you know, in Thailand, everyone knows you can't criticise the king.
00:12:09.880That's the prime. Whereas it's not clear here who you can, or in America, who you can within the law and cannot, de facto within the law, criticise.
00:12:20.400It needs to be clear. You can't criticise the same thing, not allowed.
00:12:23.180And keep in mind, you can criticise white people and the white working class, or underclass, you could even say, and not receive any kind of pushback.
00:12:34.740That's fine. It's probably sort of Mary Douglas kind of degrees of power.
00:12:39.320You say, I can't wait till these people die out, or the old white men are holding us back.
00:12:45.620I mean, you can go upper class or lower class.
00:12:47.380You can do that with reckless abandon and never lose your position for doing that.
00:12:52.360I triggered some leftists on some Twitter debate recently where I'd argued about, you know, breeding patterns and this kind of thing.
00:12:59.380I'd argue that, well, the wonderful thing about these spiteful mutants is they don't tend to breed.
00:13:03.460And various spiteful mutants got very upset about that and were saying how terrible this was.
00:13:07.780And then somebody accused that person of basically being a, you know, why haven't you got children?
00:13:12.320They said you're a sort of failure as an organism or some term like that.
00:13:14.720And the person said, oh, well, I've got more interesting things in life than having children or something like that.
00:13:21.040And I said, okay, yeah, but you're not going to pass on your genes.
00:13:24.920And then the guy said, yeah, well, have you heard of, I've passed on my genes, you haven't?
00:13:29.460Yeah, well, have you heard of dysgenics?
00:13:30.840And then he soon realized, and I just went, wow, just wow.
00:13:36.080And he soon realized that he probably shouldn't have said that because he was, of course, implicitly saying, you know, you're dysgenic and whatever in this whole discourse.
00:13:50.280So, yeah, there should be a clear list of who you can and can't criticize, what words you can and can't say about who.
00:13:56.660That would be a decent, honest decision.
00:13:59.040During this, you know, signing ceremony of the executive order, actually, Mark Levin, who's this really annoying conservative voice, actually announced Trump as the first Jewish president of the United States, which I thought was also remarkable.
00:14:23.560But he is the king of Israel, as Trump announced in his tweet.
00:14:28.780He is the ultimate Gentile man for at least Israeli nationalism.
00:14:39.380He's obviously hated passionately by the kind of more assimilated, not exactly Zionist, sometimes Zionist, liberal Jews in the United States.
00:14:53.580But in terms of the Bibi Netanyahu type Jew, the Israeli nationalist, a man who reaches out to Christian Zionists and sees them as the foundation of his voting bloc, Trump is the king of Israel.
00:16:49.200And I think there are – and then there's the kind of woke leftists working in the Google bureaucracy who are, you know, arbitrarily, haphazardly censoring people and so on.
00:17:00.360I think YouTube is being pulled in all of these different directions.
00:17:03.840Just the other day, Susan – I can't pronounce – it starts with a W, I can't pronounce her last name – was on 60 Minutes,
00:17:12.980which is an old line media program in the United States, maybe the oldest line news program.
00:17:18.500And she was being berated by this woman named Leslie Stahl for not censoring enough, effectively.
00:17:25.800Whereas, you know, our perspective on this is that the censoring is absolutely terrible.
00:17:30.000So there is just – YouTube is being pulled in multiple directions.
00:17:34.240I think maybe five or six years ago, YouTube and Twitter wanted to be these free speech platforms where they would not censor even if something was kind of false or toxic.
00:17:47.260They have now been forced into a position where they are now the mainstream media, and they don't quite know what to do with all this.
00:17:57.700So I think that there's just going to be more ambiguity going forward.
00:18:03.620I want to stay on the platform because I don't think anyone – we don't want to be cordoned off into, you know, bit shoot.
00:18:25.160There's going to be more ambiguity, and I do think that on some kind of devious label, the ambiguity is a feature and not a bug of this system.
00:18:35.080By keeping things ambiguous, they keep us on our toes and on eggshells.
00:18:40.700We're afraid to talk about something that we might want to talk about.
00:18:48.880I think it is a kind of psychological warfare going on.
00:18:53.920And so I think this terrible, ambiguous status quo is going to exist for a long time.
00:19:02.220But I would say this, the catalyst for all this really was Trump's election in the sense that, and it was Charlottesville to a degree, but it was really Trump's election in the sense that the concept of fake news, the concept of you have all of these bad actors using social media and hijacking the conversation.
00:19:25.280And there are people who are in these silos where they're feeding each other kind of news, whether it's fake or not, or opinions, whether it's good or not.
00:19:37.080And they're not getting the dominant narrative, but maybe they're also not getting the truth either.
00:19:43.020And this is a kind of social phenomenon, which I think is genuinely problematic.
00:19:49.800But that Trump winning by doing an end run around the mainstream media, that is the fundamental catalyst for all of this.
00:20:01.640So I would publicly announce that I can't stand Trump.
00:20:07.120So YouTube and Twitter, you should just keep us on.
00:20:10.680We are, you know, we are not helping the dictator in chief, the orange man, who is bad.
00:20:19.400So I think it's very clear that they don't want us to know what the rules are, because obviously, if they tell us the rules, we can make sure that we don't say the certain things, we don't get suspended.
00:20:27.600And they do, you do feel apprehensive about uploading content, because some of the videos that I make, it might take me, you know, 10 or 20 hours to make one.
00:20:35.520And then I do sometimes think, what's the point if I upload it and it gets suspended?
00:20:40.700And I know that a lot of content creators have sort of backed up, backed off themselves and moved over to other platforms such as BitChute.
00:20:49.940Are you still uploading regular videos?
00:20:52.240I am, although I've got a sword of Damocles hanging over me till February for doing a video which they monetized and then left up for months and months and months and then decided to take a speech for no apparent reason.
00:21:02.220But I think that it's, these things work in cycles.
00:21:07.160I mean, Facebook was the big thing in 2006, 2007.
00:21:10.900Now, no self-respecting teenager would be on Facebook.
00:21:14.200It's for the old people and, you know, once people like my parents, i.e. their grandparents went on it, then YouTube is not fashionable anymore.
00:21:22.420And I suspect that a similar kind of thing, YouTube's been going now for a decade, and I suspect that a similar kind of thing is likely to happen with YouTube as it is realized that it's less about, from the right-wing perspective, yeah, you can't express yourself, it's anti-free speech.
00:21:38.380And from a left-wing sort of liberal perspective, they're into the novel, they're into the new, and it's not new anymore.
00:21:45.460It's jaded, and it's associated with big business and whatever.
00:21:48.400And so there'll be two directions in which it will probably go the way of MySpace or whatever.
00:21:58.660I think Facebook, despite the fact that Facebook is no longer cool, I do think that it's here to stay.
00:22:06.400I think that chaotic period in Silicon Valley is now past.
00:22:10.760And what is happening is consolidation on these platforms and also this just slow but steady linear decline of cable news, effectively.
00:22:26.680People are, they are moving towards YouTube, they are moving towards, like, the apps that you can buy on their channel away from cable, you know, apps like HBO and Hulu and Netflix, et cetera.
00:22:42.780And that we're kind of seeing a consolidation where 10 years from now, YouTube is probably going to be a lot more like Netflix, and it is going to be mainstream.
00:22:54.240And actually paying for cable or not to mention, you know, getting a broadcast television signal will be over.
00:23:02.640So I don't think it's just the latest trend.
00:23:23.640And I think we're in a situation now of this change.
00:23:26.780I personally, I've only been on there for a year, but I much prefer watching things.
00:23:31.160I mean, BitChute is a difficult search, and there's all kinds of problems with it.
00:23:34.360But I much prefer watching content that's on there simply because it's on there, and I feel kind of violated having to watch something on YouTube.
00:23:41.980And once people start uploading old TV programs and things like that, which are copyright infringements, onto BitChute, then there'll be, for me, there'll be no reason to go onto YouTube other than to, like, watch Sky News or something.
00:23:54.880Which, of course, I used to, would have used to have watched on television.
00:28:04.320But keep in mind that, you know, that's pretty much all this will get.
00:28:09.460There are people doing insane, oh, IRL in real life.
00:28:13.380There are people doing insanely stupid, weird personal confessionals or makeup tutorials or unboxing of electronic items or so on
00:28:24.020that have audiences in the tens of millions on a consistent basis, much more than CNN or The New York Times.
00:28:32.680Unlike myself and Richard, you're wearing some, you've got some slap on there.
00:28:37.900And did you have the foresight to film yourself putting it on?
00:28:42.460I didn't, but maybe I should start filming myself putting my makeup on and I'll just talk about repatriation or something at the same time.
00:29:20.760It's not, because, look, garbage TV is not new.
00:29:23.320You know, people, guys watch football games or whatever.
00:29:27.440But it's that their online life has replaced their real life.
00:29:32.160So there have been studies of, like, millennials have no friends and, you know, literally have no connection.
00:29:41.560But they have these false, hyper-real friends online where they care about this, like, tranny putting on makeup or they care about some personal confessional.