RadixJournal - Un-Orthodox Judaism

00:00:00.000 We all don't like woke for very good reasons.

00:00:05.360 We find it annoying.

00:00:07.760 It's anti-white. 0.76

00:00:09.420 It's, you know, I could go on.

00:00:11.380 I don't need to.

00:00:12.140 But I wonder the degree to which the woke faction really is at serious loggerheads with the Zionist faction and the Jewish faction.

00:00:28.180 And the woke, they kind of have infiltrated the institutions.

00:00:35.540 And I don't know.

00:00:37.860 I'll just throw it out there.

00:00:40.360 Maybe I'm on team woke at this point because at the very least, I want the like let them fight or, you know, like Blofeld and from Russia with love for their two Japanese fighting fish.

00:00:54.280 And he was like, ah, yes, you know, the USSR and USA, we let them destroy each other and then we take over. 0.95

00:01:01.300 I'm in that mode of thinking.

00:01:04.220 And if anything, I'm on the side of the wokesters. 0.65

00:01:07.240 I am afraid to announce to the world.

00:01:11.100 One of the interesting things, Richard, is that the first time that I can remember the Zionist faction within American politics is having to try to appeal to both sides.

00:01:27.240 Right.

00:01:27.440 And there's a question of, like, well, who are they appealing to?

00:01:32.640 And implicitly, it is the white population.

00:01:35.480 Because I don't, I mean, without being, I don't really think the other minority populations care about issues. 1.00

00:01:44.280 By which I mean, how can I put this?

00:01:48.940 I have never seen a black politician talk about, apart from like Thomas Sowell or something, who's not really a politician, but I've never seen like a black spokesperson talk about normal politics. 1.00

00:02:02.380 Right.

00:02:02.900 I've only ever seen them talk about like what would be described as black issues.

00:02:08.380 So it is very difficult to, I think, appeal to those people on issues that aren't that.

00:02:17.080 Right.

00:02:17.360 Because it is a very straightforward calculus, you know, give me things in exchange for loyalty.

00:02:25.420 And so I get the impression that that population in general doesn't really care about this and is not going to, you know, they'll get on board if it's like, give us money for BLM or something.

00:02:36.760 They're not going to get on board for, you know, support our genocide or whatever.

00:02:44.020 So then it's like, well, okay, so you're appealing.

00:02:47.820 I've seen some very, very ham-fisted messaging from Israel trying to appeal to feminists and things like this. 0.98

00:02:54.880 I don't know if you've seen any of this.

00:02:55.880 Like they've gone heavy on the angle that Hamas was involved in mass rapes.

00:03:03.500 Right.

00:03:03.980 So they're trying, they were trying to leverage me too.

00:03:06.940 I mean, it's really kind of almost comically inept messaging.

00:03:11.180 Um, but they, they were clearly trying to get college educated white women on the side. 1.00

00:03:16.760 Oh, they had a message Jewish women in yoga pants doing yoga while talking about Hamas.

00:03:22.480 I mean, yeah, it was a bit on the nose.

00:03:24.340 Um, and then, and then on the, and then on the other side, there's a concerted kind of, uh, unspoken effort.

00:03:34.620 Uh, well, it's not even that unspoken.

00:03:36.820 It's pretty, pretty explicit in this case of getting like, um, conservative activists like Chris Rufo and others.

00:03:45.680 Um, um, basically on side with the promise of putting the work away.

00:03:51.900 Right.

00:03:53.100 Um, whereby I, I mean, I even thought that even then I thought they were a little bit underhanded in the way that.

00:04:01.040 I mean, clearly they ousted, uh, the Harvard professor Claudine Gay writes from her post and then they let Rufo take the rap for it.

00:04:12.040 And now if you have a look at the press, it's all about, um, oh, white supremacy did this.

00:04:19.160 Chris Rufo's white supremacy was responsible for deleting Claudine Gay.

00:04:25.360 Um, and it's like, well, what happens if simultaneously both sides just have enough, have just have enough of it?

00:04:36.560 Um, because I increasingly my feeling is, and I don't know if you noticed on Twitter that I've been, I've been attacking this in a somewhat different way from the usual.

00:04:48.700 You know, I, I think we've had 80 years now of people making very similar arguments, you know, the Michael Jones arguments or, you know, some aspect of the Kevin Macdonald arguments, et cetera.

00:05:00.960 Um, where it's kind of granted, they kind of grant them all these, all these things.

00:05:05.240 Yes.

00:05:05.760 They're supremely intelligent.

00:05:07.400 Uh, you know, nobody doubts their talents and all this sort of stuff.

00:05:10.880 And I'm like, well, actually I do.

00:05:13.300 I do doubt all of those things because I don't, I just look at the evidence of my own eyes, first of all.

00:05:19.300 Um, and what I see is essentially a group that uses, uh, very low class mafia tactics, basically extortion, bribery, intimidation.

00:05:32.580 Um, you know, I, I have never once seen an instance of any of these people have like a good faith debate or win it on the merits of the argument or, you know, unless it's like Ben Shapiro destroying a 12 year old or something like that.

00:05:50.140 Um, and what I have seen lots of evidence of is, um, uh, you know, essentially the tactics of the mafia, which, uh, you know, which is exactly what we saw with the professors.

00:06:04.980 Right.

00:06:05.540 I mean, we basically watched a Moscow show trial, um, of the various professors.

00:06:10.920 Um, it is what we saw with the Epstein case, which is blatantly just a kind of, you know, honeypot blackmail ring.

00:06:20.760 Um, and it's what, it's what we see in American politics.

00:06:24.580 But that is why, I mean, you know, you've got the absurd situation now of, um, the, uh, you know, South Africa has taken Israel to this, uh, international court.

00:06:39.900 Um, um, for genocide and, you know, you've got U S spokesman, like not, there's not a single U S politician willing to say, yeah, maybe we should hear the case.

00:06:52.800 All of them out of hand say things like, oh, there's absolutely no merits.

00:06:57.180 There's no evidence to support this.

00:06:59.100 Uh, it's disgraceful or all the rest of it.

00:07:02.160 Um, even to the point where I would say the, the American political establishment is more on board than.

00:07:09.900 Many people within Israel who, who, who basically have, uh, you know, they, I think that last I saw there was 700, um, 700 people within Israel, uh, Jews supporting the South Africa case.

00:07:27.180 Yes. Essentially. Um, no, no, how is all that achieved? Is it achieved by brilliant kind of brainwashing? Um, you know, or is it just achieved by the fact that Lindsay Graham is paid off and, you know, is scared that you might get his knackers in a, in a spanner, you know?

00:07:46.760 Um, so, um, so I just wonder about how long you can keep something like that going indefinitely and whether we've reached a point where enough people within the system have basically had enough.

00:08:00.960 Um, and, and, and one of the reasons I, I say that Richard is because, um, I don't know if you're aware of, um, judge Napolitano.

00:08:11.680 Yes.

00:08:12.340 Um, now I've been watching his show on YouTube, uh, pretty obsessively since the Hamas conflict started.

00:08:19.920 And one of the most incredible things about that show, I mean, there's, there's, there's him himself who was interviewed by Trump to go on the Supreme court.

00:08:29.280 He ended up picking Kavanaugh, but you know, we're talking about somebody at that level.

00:08:33.540 Okay.

00:08:34.100 Yeah.

00:08:34.600 And then basically every single, every single guest he has is somebody who's either worked officially for, um, you know, a white house administration or at the highest levels in the military or intelligence.

00:08:48.320 And I'm like, these guys are going out to hundreds of thousands of people every day, all day, every day, counter-signaling the American government, the war on Ukraine, the stuff in the stuff going on in Israel all day, every day.

00:09:03.560 And it's not censored.

00:09:04.620 It's just allowed to go out there.

00:09:06.800 Um, how does this happen?

00:09:08.780 So I, I do, I do think that there may be more to the kind of cue stuff that meets the eye.

00:09:17.500 Uh, not, not like the, you know what I mean?

00:09:20.260 Like that, then there may be people within the American system who are doing their best to try to turn the ship around in whatever way.

00:09:29.700 Um, I'm one aspect of it is exposing all this stuff. 0.98

00:09:32.760 Um, or they're kind of the disgruntled employee who went into it for good reason and they, they see how either immoral it is or just chaotic and stupid it is. 0.98

00:09:48.020 And they just have a let it burn attitude. 0.98

00:09:52.000 I, I, I think that's also plausible.

00:09:54.020 Um, let, let me pick up on a, a couple of things here.

00:09:58.460 Um, a couple of things I want to say first off, and this is something that I've really discovered through Mark's work.

00:10:08.540 And, um, and, um, and I've integrated it so much into my mind that it, it, I, I almost now I'm kind of a hammer looking for a nail, I guess, to some degree.

00:10:20.040 But the scapegoating dynamic is so fundamental to Judaism. 0.98

00:10:28.960 It is explicated in their book.

00:10:35.240 It is their most important holiday.

00:10:37.900 Yom Kippur is a holiday about scapegoating. 0.98

00:10:42.920 And it's one for Azazel.

00:10:46.120 You push the goat out. 0.91

00:10:48.240 You exile him to a demon God, or maybe he's the demon.

00:10:51.460 We don't, we don't quite know what it means. 0.94

00:10:54.100 Um, and then you also, uh, bleed one out and burn it to, to a crisp one for Yahweh. 0.90

00:11:02.100 And if you have this dynamic going in your mind, I think it, if it's that embedded, if you've been reading this for years, if you celebrate a holiday about this, it's not, if you even engage in actual scapegoating.

00:11:18.240 Like one, one person who I interacted with briefly on a Twitter space was discovered to be sacrificing chickens and literally placing her sins into the chicken before it's slaughtered.

00:11:32.640 Uh, just this like literal reenactment of something.

00:11:36.400 If, if the, if the scapegoating is that deeply embedded, you are going to just naturally act that way.

00:11:43.000 And for, for Gentiles, I would definitely say for whites, but for Gentiles, whenever you use the word scapegoating, it has a real negative connotation.

00:11:53.660 It's like, oh, the, the coach actually did a good job, but he's getting scapegoated for that bad loss against state this year or something.

00:12:02.840 You know, we don't like it actually.

00:12:04.820 We, we see, we see it as unfair.

00:12:06.460 It's almost always a pejorative.

00:12:08.340 It's not a pejorative within Judaism.

00:12:10.600 It is the very essence of the religion, in my opinion, the scapegoat. 0.97

00:12:15.660 And so like, yeah, I agree.

00:12:19.660 Like Rufo is probably, probably loves the attention, but he's getting scapegoated for what is obviously Israeli action against someone who tolerated discussion of Israel, including bold discussion of Israel, like from the river to the sea at Harvard.

00:12:36.280 She tolerated that she's being destroyed because of it.

00:12:39.840 And then they're kind of putting it on either, uh, Stefanik, the congresswoman who was, you know, harsh and, and, you know, uh, in her interrogation of Claudine Gay, or they're putting on Chris Rufo, the, you know, Catholic, Italian, uh, conservative activist who, you know, holds no bar, uh, bars, no holds or whatever.

00:13:01.820 And it's, it's really about them, uh, you know, just this weird, even like inner scapegoating of, I mean, if we assume that there is a more sinister, uh, aspect to these tunnels, like the inner scapegoating of, oh, these, this extremist, um, faction, the scapegoating of Joe Biden.

00:13:20.020 And I would say this, um, really sincerely, in fact, so there, there was a protest at a, a church and this church happened to be the church where Dylan Roof shot a number of, um, innocent people in pews.

00:13:35.640 I mean, it, you know, obviously disgusting event and, um, people got up and they, they did a really above board protest and they, they said, we're, we're not going to stand for genocide.

00:13:49.000 Um, to Joe Biden's face and then they were asked to leave and they left.

00:13:53.900 So I, I thought that was a totally above board way to protest.

00:13:58.040 And, and it was actually in a way respectful, uh, and, uh, Joe Biden, he, he seems almost trapped in this as, as you said, like people in Israel and American Christians are more Zionist than the Zionist.

00:14:13.540 Like you, you, you have this man who controls a nuclear arsenal and billions of dollars that can be just printed by the federal reserve is all just at his disposal.

00:14:24.440 And he's basically saying, I hear you and listen, I'm, I agree with you in effect.

00:14:31.720 And I'm working quietly to try to calm down the Zionist from their genocidal campaign against the Palestinians. 0.86

00:14:40.240 You see a man, perhaps I'm being, giving him the benefit of the doubt. 1.00

00:14:44.200 Perhaps I'm being charitable because I voted for the bastard. 1.00

00:14:46.700 I, whatever. 1.00

00:14:47.680 But he, he's almost like a, this tragic figure who's trapped and he can't stop them and he sees it.

00:14:56.480 Very interesting, Richard, about the scapegoat, uh, dynamic.

00:15:01.280 And I, I, um, I watch a show called, I don't know if, uh, you've ever come across this one, one.

00:15:07.860 Her name is Caroline Glick.

00:15:10.820 I've never heard of her.

00:15:12.400 She is a hardcore Israeli nationalist Zionist, right?

00:15:18.340 I think she's one of the few American settlers.

00:15:23.860 Does that make any sense?

00:15:25.160 Like she's American Israeli settler, but she's hardcore. 0.83

00:15:28.880 Okay.

00:15:29.580 Um, but she had a guest on called David Goldman recently, wrote a phenomenal article, um, basically

00:15:36.700 took, basically saying that America is suffering a competency crisis and is basically like throwing

00:15:45.840 away its empire and, uh, et cetera.

00:15:50.060 Um, is, is this Schengler that David Goldman?

00:15:53.840 Um, I'll see if I can pull up.

00:15:55.780 I think it might be the article.

00:15:57.920 I mean, it was a really good article.

00:15:59.580 Um, he's a very smart guy.

00:16:01.660 He, um, he wrote for the Asia times back in the day, believe it or not.

00:16:05.740 He wrote two articles for talkies magazine that I, um, commissioned 12 years ago.

00:16:13.600 The article is called, yeah.

00:16:15.440 And it kind of really struck me by how smart it was.

00:16:19.540 Um, see if I can find that, that article now, but then I, then I kind of followed him

00:16:24.620 because he, he did this, uh, show, um, uh, with Caroline Glick, which I listened to with

00:16:32.200 interest.

00:16:33.040 And he was basically, um, they were basically very, they're very disgruntled.

00:16:38.860 The Israeli nationalists with America, right. 0.88

00:16:43.420 Um, and one of the things that really struck me about the whole conversation was how candidly

00:16:49.980 they were talking about, um, the need for Israel to excrete, to find greater independence

00:16:59.040 from America because basically the argument in, in short was, um, here's the article.

00:17:07.440 It's called Israel in the shadow of decline.

00:17:09.960 It was for Asia times, but it was also syndicated elsewhere.

00:17:13.020 I'll, I'll just drop it in the notes.

00:17:14.540 Uh, just drop it in notes.

00:17:17.040 Hold on.

00:17:17.280 Yeah.

00:17:17.620 This, this must be Spangler.

00:17:19.400 Yeah.

00:17:19.600 He, he's a very intelligent guy.

00:17:22.120 I've, I've read two of his books, uh, but go on.

00:17:24.600 I mean, and, and, and he was in, in, in person too, on this show, he was pretty, pretty strikingly

00:17:30.820 intelligent as well.

00:17:32.100 Um, confounding my, my, uh, my recent article on Jewish IQ, but, um, the, the basic tenor

00:17:40.820 of this interview between Glick and Goldman was them basically saying like America is a 1.00

00:17:48.340 shit show. 0.99

00:17:48.840 Um, they're unreliable as allies and as friends now, um, partly due to the, the, just absolute 0.99

00:17:57.440 decline in, um, incompetence, uh, partly because they're looking at what's happened in Ukraine

00:18:04.020 where, you know, they, they, they started a war they couldn't finish.

00:18:08.380 They, they told, they built Zelensky up and then they've kind of lost interest over time.

00:18:13.900 Um, and, um, it was striking though, because they were saying like, we need to be more friendly

00:18:22.040 with the Russians and the Chinese.

00:18:23.780 We need to find a way of like surviving in this post-American world. 0.98

00:18:29.580 And we need to be able to stand on our own two feet.

00:18:32.200 Um, and I just, I just thought it was interesting how quickly, what did the contrast basically

00:18:41.200 between the way they speak among themselves in it or an Israeli show and the discourse,

00:18:49.460 for example, in Washington or from, from a Lindsey Graham or any of these kind of, uh,

00:18:55.760 boomer boomers, Iocons, um, who, I mean, I wonder if they're aware of that sort of material. 1.00

00:19:02.180 Or if you showed it to them, like, what would they, would they just take it on the chin

00:19:06.120 or would they just be kind of laugh it off or would they be offended as kind of American

00:19:11.760 patriots?

00:19:12.820 Well, I think they're, I think they're caught between two things because I mean, remember

00:19:18.200 I'm, I'm 45 years old and so I, I graduated high school in 1997 and I graduated college in

00:19:26.900 2001.

00:19:27.920 So I, I've kind of seen it.

00:19:29.920 I haven't seen it all, but I've seen a lot actually.

00:19:32.580 I, I, I can remember the cold war period and I can, you know, the, the way I've described

00:19:39.800 it was I, I remember thinking when I was like, let's say eight years old or something, you're

00:19:45.880 just becoming conscious of stuff.

00:19:48.540 And I would think like, you know, I was in something like I was protected because I was

00:19:53.720 in freedom and I was out of communism and, and someone in communism was kind of there

00:19:59.500 and they, they could escape maybe.

00:20:01.160 And it's how I saw it, but I, but I saw it as very reassuring, you know, like, thank

00:20:06.560 God I'm an American basically.

00:20:08.260 And, um, I, I can also remember the hyper patriotism that occurred after 9-11 that really, uh, at

00:20:20.240 that stage of my life when I was, you know, an angry young man reading, you know, Herman

00:20:26.800 Hesse novels and Nietzsche and this kind of stuff.

00:20:30.460 Um, I was, I was just really, really turned off by it.

00:20:36.060 I just hated Bush.

00:20:38.080 I hated W.

00:20:39.240 Bush.

00:20:39.520 That is, I hated the Iraq war.

00:20:41.500 I hated all this flag waving and flag pens and things like that.

00:20:45.420 But for American, for, for Boomer whites and most American whites, that, that was a time 0.81

00:20:51.820 of like total moralization and, and feelings of power and, and togetherness.

00:21:00.460 And, et cetera.

00:21:02.340 And I, I've also experienced this past, uh, seven to 10 years of conservatives thinking

00:21:10.940 in terms of declinism and like, this isn't our country anymore.

00:21:15.060 The people on top are evil and it's this weird flow and they go back and forth.

00:21:22.420 You know, Trump is like our, our revenge against these evil people who are in charge, but then

00:21:28.580 also he made America great.

00:21:31.120 We are the greatest country.

00:21:32.140 It's just weird.

00:21:33.940 Uh, I, I guess you could say kind of schizo feelings about what America is. 0.93

00:21:40.940 And I think they're, it's all occurring at the same time.

00:21:44.280 Um, it's, it's, it's occurring within their same mind on, on, on one level, like, you know,

00:21:51.080 uh, uh, Israel is great and we've got to protect them and they're, they're one with America.

00:21:55.780 We can do this because we're, we've got the best patriots in charge.

00:21:59.700 And on the other hand, it's like, we're led by pedophiles, you know, like, I mean, it's

00:22:08.240 just, it's, it's, it's both occurring at the same time.

00:22:13.420 And yeah, that's how I, that's how I would, I would think of it.

00:22:17.540 You know, it's interesting, Richard, um, that one thing I think you and I have in common

00:22:22.340 is a kind of a contrarian character, right?

00:22:24.760 Um, I remember I was at university in 2000 and, you know, during the, uh, the invasion

00:22:32.380 of Iraq, Tony Blair was the prime minister and, um, all basically everybody in my college,

00:22:40.180 uh, I went to one of the colleges in the university of London, um, was, uh, off to the anti, the

00:22:47.840 anti-war march in Iraq.

00:22:49.520 And, um, they came in, not in Iraq, in London, it's, it's, I think it's still the biggest 1.00

00:22:56.060 protest in London's history over a million people when, um, and they were giving out

00:23:00.900 sandwiches, you know, to come and, uh, um, you know, support the anti, the anti-war cause.

00:23:08.520 Um, but me being such a contrarian, I kind of rebelled against that.

00:23:14.180 You know, if everybody else, if everybody else is going to be against the war, I'm going

00:23:18.180 to be like, well, you know, I, I mean, I voted for Tony Blair.

00:23:21.920 That was my original sin.

00:23:23.480 Um, and I kind of, uh, I really got into, um, to remember like Robert Kagan and Paradise

00:23:30.840 of Power, I kind of convinced myself of like the neocon arguments and realpolitik and Machiavelli

00:23:38.680 and all of that.

00:23:39.820 And I, I was pretty much like the only person who was kind of convinced myself that I would,

00:23:45.080 you know, okay, I'm for the invasion.

00:23:47.140 Okay.

00:23:47.460 It's not about democracy, but who cares about that?

00:23:49.560 You know, it's about like some other reason.

00:23:52.420 Um, and I, I, over time I've had to kind of, um, unlearn many of those things.

00:24:00.820 Um, and, uh, and almost end up where everybody else was like 20 years ago.

00:24:05.820 So it was interesting, it's, it's interesting that, um, that, and I, it just made me wonder

00:24:11.140 if you had been there, Richard, rather than America where everybody was rah, rah, would

00:24:16.340 you have ended up being pro war just due to natural control?

00:24:19.060 That's true.

00:24:19.640 Like if, if I, if my soul were plucked out of my body and placed in someone in Finland 0.94

00:24:25.420 or something, just because I was surrounded by anti-war people, would I just become a Bush

00:24:32.000 fan?

00:24:32.560 Yeah, probably.

00:24:36.220 Sorry.

00:24:36.780 I did a little bit off the beat and trap, but things like that I wonder about.

00:24:41.460 And then it's kind of like, once you become aware of yourself, how can you then combat against

00:24:46.240 yourself?

00:24:46.880 You know?

00:24:47.640 Yeah.

00:24:48.680 I've, I've often joked that if the revolution actually happened and, uh, you know, there was

00:24:52.840 a base takeover, I would immediately be against the regime and find reasons to immediately

00:25:00.000 on the other side of it.

00:25:02.060 Um, I mean, can you imagine how awful it would be if, uh, the Gripers took over or something?

00:25:09.220 Well, yes, but I, but if you negativity, like there's negativity for negativity sake, and

00:25:16.820 then there's negativity that is idealistic because it's, it's via criticism that you can

00:25:23.400 actually move forward with something.

00:25:26.020 So I, I think negativity is extremely important and, and good and, and, and conservatives have

00:25:33.880 this, this tendency to want to return to some period that's like trapped in amber or like

00:25:41.360 in a glacier.

00:25:42.160 Like they, they want to go into this big iceberg that is like the 1950s maybe, or, or maybe

00:25:50.840 even the like pre-Reformation Catholic Europe or, you know, the, uh, 1450s or so.

00:25:58.700 I, I, I don't know.

00:25:59.380 They, they want to go, they wouldn't like the Renaissance either.

00:26:02.940 The 1050s.

00:26:04.020 They, they, they want to just like go into this glacier where it remains the same forever.

00:26:10.880 And I, I, I don't know.

00:26:13.360 I just, I don't have that mentality.

00:26:16.160 I, I, I think you can only, by, by saying something is wrong and by rejecting something,

00:26:22.660 you are implying that there's something else that's better.

00:26:25.960 If you're simply engaged in negative whining, I agree that that is lame and it's just pure

00:26:32.820 resentment.

00:26:33.680 But if you're engaged in idealistic negation, then you are actually moving things forward.

00:26:41.800 You know, we're Hegelians basically, you know, long story short.

00:26:45.200 Yeah, yeah, I, I, I'd, uh, I'd go along with that.

00:26:48.980 Although I have been, uh, a while back, but, but two years ago, I got caught up in a whole

00:26:55.620 positive versus negative vision argument where after being burnt, I, I, I made this video

00:27:01.960 where I imagined a little town called Trump done, right.

00:27:06.540 Which is, uh, this is, it's like a British kid show that was shown in the sixties, but like

00:27:12.080 everybody's, uh, you know, lives in the village green essentially.

00:27:15.800 And, you know, there's a little, uh, there's a, there's a baker and a candlestick maker and

00:27:20.700 a butcher and everybody has a place in the village and there's a mayor that everybody looks

00:27:25.020 up to.

00:27:25.620 And it's kind of like a, like a, like, you know, uh, a vision of the great chain of being

00:27:31.560 is how I wanted to present it.

00:27:32.840 Yeah.

00:27:33.300 Yeah.

00:27:33.560 And I was like, well, okay, let's pretend this is something like what everybody wants,

00:27:38.720 right?

00:27:38.940 Most people on the right look at something like that and think it's wholesome and something

00:27:43.120 to aspire towards.

00:27:44.840 There's a community, people like each other.

00:27:46.940 There's hierarchy, there's order.

00:27:49.940 Um, there's, uh, high trust between all those people.

00:27:55.640 And then I was like, right.

00:27:56.680 Okay.

00:27:56.860 So here are the things that we need to do to get to that place.

00:28:01.840 Step one, I need to take away your mobile phones.

00:28:04.340 And I had like a full, I had a full, full scale revolt of everybody.

00:28:10.280 Everybody's like, you're basically Stalin.

00:28:12.120 You're base, you're basically creating North Korea here. 0.95

00:28:16.020 And, um, and I was like, right.

00:28:18.020 Okay.

00:28:18.560 That's it.

00:28:19.420 Positive visions inherently cause problems.

00:28:23.000 So the only thing in the end, everybody agrees on is that the elites now need to go.

00:28:28.760 So this is the, this is the argument I got into with people, which is that as soon as

00:28:35.160 you get, I, cause I agree with you.

00:28:36.740 I agree ultimately that you need some sort of vision that you're working towards, but

00:28:40.820 as soon as you try to start articulating it, you get, um, 101 splinter groups, splinters.

00:28:50.180 Um, you're just, you're just asking for the Monty Python people's front of Judea, you know,

00:28:57.300 it's splinter effect.

00:28:58.720 Um, so I, I was trying to think of a way of what could, what could be a thing that everybody

00:29:04.460 could get behind.

00:29:05.620 So everybody's on the same page.

00:29:08.080 Um, that was two years ago after, after living through the past two years, I now think it

00:29:14.420 just doesn't, it just doesn't matter to do what you want.

00:29:16.840 So who cares at the end of the day, because, um, you know, nobody is in a position to be,

00:29:28.560 well, how can I put this?

00:29:30.300 We understand the need for a Vanguard and a counter, and a counter elite, but the facts

00:29:36.640 on the ground are that there's already, in my view, a counter elite ready and set to

00:29:43.500 go and they are not, uh, of a flavor that any of you would like.

00:29:49.840 They are a flavor of, they are essentially the Chris Russo, the Chris, the Chris Rufos

00:29:55.140 and Vivek Ramashwamis of this world.

00:29:57.140 And my view currently is that we need to let all of that play out and resolve one way or

00:30:04.040 the other and, um, just kind of bide our time, develop our ideas, remain on reasonably good

00:30:13.940 terms, uh, until that time, until that time comes.

00:30:18.720 Um, but not endorse the Chris Rufos.

00:30:22.180 I think this is also this temptation that's always bothered me with the right wing where

00:30:28.160 they're like, well, you know, a half loaf is better than nothing, you know, kind of thing.

00:30:32.340 And I'm like, no, it's, it's actually kind of worse because they will steal your thunder

00:30:38.880 as well.

00:30:40.000 Like, you know, I've been telling people, Richard, the, you're going to basically get

00:30:44.320 the HR lady replaced with James Lindsay, uh, you know, like, like basically forcing you

00:30:51.800 to not engage with a critical race theory and be colorblind and meritocratic while also

00:31:00.160 learning about the Holocaust.

00:31:01.220 That's basically what it's going to be like.

00:31:02.900 Yeah.

00:31:03.980 And I don't, I don't, that's not a solution.

00:31:06.420 I don't, I also don't think that that's sustainable.

00:31:08.540 I, you've been kind of joking about this, how like fresh France ism is, you know, I,

00:31:14.600 I would, I would agree with you that that did work for a while and yeah, the lethal weapon

00:31:23.660 buddy, you know, like Mel Gibson and Danny Glover working together and putting aside differences

00:31:30.760 to solve the crime.

00:31:32.360 Like I, I, I'm not going to deny that that isn't plausible on some level and it's in a

00:31:38.340 way been done, but I, I don't think that that is possible.

00:31:42.800 I, I think that's also kind of going backward to some glacially frozen period of, of like

00:31:50.660 1980 through 2001 where that did work.

00:31:56.540 And I don't, I, I, I, I don't think that that's possible, but let, let me change the subject

00:32:02.800 just a little bit.

00:32:03.480 Cause I know we're, you're generous of your time, but we're running low, but what, you

00:32:10.540 know, I think you and I also agree that the midwits are in effect in charge.

00:32:18.240 And, and, and so I, there, you know, I watched this movie on Netflix, um, a couple of weeks

00:32:26.160 ago that was produced by the Obamas.

00:32:28.120 It's called, um, uh, leave the world behind and it's very interesting.

00:32:34.180 I thought there was a lot of actually symbolism and messaging going on in that film from an

00:32:40.620 Obama perspective, which is, um, pretty interesting.

00:32:44.320 But this, this character who I think was a stand in for Obama, who was the wealthy, uh,

00:32:53.080 educated and, and in fact, very thoughtful black man, um, named, uh, G H, um, George H.

00:33:03.800 I, I think even the name was like George, you know, Hussein, George, first president, first

00:33:08.900 black president, George Hussein.

00:33:10.200 Anyway, um, he was saying like, he, there's no one in charge at the end of the day.

00:33:17.560 Like you even meet these billionaires and even they are like running off to New Zealand to 0.94

00:33:27.680 save their ass when the, when the crisis comes. 0.85

00:33:31.000 And even they are kind of powerless vis-a-vis these bigger forces and the destruction of 0.99

00:33:39.220 America.

00:33:39.800 So the, the, the horrible thing is not that Alex Jones is right.

00:33:45.820 It's that Alex Jones is wrong. 0.90

00:33:47.560 Like whatever you, you know, say what you will about demon worshiping pedophiles.

00:33:54.200 At least they have an ethos, sorry, you know, to, to, to, to quote the big Lumbowski, like 0.98

00:34:01.180 say what you will about these evil Jews and cabal in charge of the government, at least 1.00

00:34:09.160 they would have a purpose and kind of maintain it. 0.98

00:34:12.760 The more horrifying vision is that we're actually led by midwits or midwits have a great deal of

00:34:21.780 power.

00:34:22.280 They're not evil and they're not really anything.

00:34:26.960 They're not there.

00:34:27.620 If anything, they're, they kind of lean good.

00:34:30.800 You know, they're, they're like the parks and rec people. 0.68

00:34:33.700 They're, they're kind of flawed and silly, but kind of good at the end.

00:34:38.380 Like if anything, they're that, but they're not in charge, like no one's in charge. 0.96

00:34:43.760 And that's actually horrifying that you have all these people who dotted their eyes and crossed 0.90

00:34:49.320 their T's on their resumes and while they're in college and they don't have a vision.

00:34:56.780 They go, they're very good at going with the flow.

00:34:59.340 So like if they, if they, if they, if they were applying to college in 1995, they would

00:35:05.220 have been like, well, we need to forget about race.

00:35:08.180 We need to be colorblind.

00:35:09.560 That's what, that's the real thing.

00:35:10.680 Like, and if they applied for college into the, in 2005, they would be like, we need to

00:35:15.360 awaken to the reality of race and identity.

00:35:18.540 Like they, they just go with the flow.

00:35:20.480 There's no, they're there, but they're kind of benign on some level.

00:35:26.100 And, but they can't save us.

00:35:29.980 And the fact that we have a meritocratic system where you are, are rewarded for being test,

00:35:38.300 for being a test taker, you're rewarded for, in a way, not being interesting, which is one

00:35:45.000 aspect of meritocracy, I would suggest.

00:35:47.920 I don't know what they mean when they say meritocracy.

00:35:50.060 It, it almost seems like mediocrity is what they, mediocrity is what they want.

00:35:57.420 And you, if you get into a sex scandal, you're canceled and thrown out.

00:36:02.680 If you dip into the till of the business or your government, you're like, you know, arrested

00:36:08.760 or humiliated or whatever.

00:36:10.400 And so you never, like, it's all these means and not ends.

00:36:15.220 And, and all of that stuff, you, you got a little handsy with your secretary, you embezzled

00:36:21.500 money, you did this, you did, none of that matters at the end of the day.

00:36:27.740 And if you look back at world leaders, particularly great men and impactful people, they were horrible

00:36:35.840 people, individuals, you know?

00:36:39.320 And so, and I don't even think that they, it's a coincidence that they were horrible. 0.88

00:36:44.860 I think they very well might have been great because they were malignant narcissist.

00:36:51.660 And so we've reached this, I guess my point is we've, we've reached this point where like

00:36:56.700 the, the midwits are in charge and they're in a way doing their best.

00:37:01.080 And they might even kind of like not go along with hyper Zionism and they might even be the, 0.62

00:37:07.600 our like last defense against hyper Zionism. 0.64

00:37:10.200 Um, but they're, they, even, they can't really stop what's coming and they can't save us and

00:37:18.120 they might even be scapegoated for what's coming.

00:37:20.840 But anyway, this is kind of my view of power and the managerial class in a, in a nutshell.

00:37:29.480 What, what do you think?

00:37:31.700 I mean, one of the things that when I, when I was writing my last book, prophets of doom,

00:37:36.440 this was a topic that kept on reoccurring because all of the cyclical theorists in their

00:37:42.180 own way.

00:37:43.520 Um, and, uh, I also covered Carlisle in that book as well.

00:37:47.320 Who's famous for the great man of theory of history.

00:37:50.620 Okay.

00:37:51.440 But all of them in their own way wanted to recover a sense of the heroic.

00:37:56.640 Okay.

00:37:57.800 Um, and one of the little discoveries I made writing that, uh, book, I mean, it's not a

00:38:03.680 new discovery in the world, just something that was unbeknownst to me.

00:38:07.260 Um, and a lot of people I imagine, uh, before I wrote it was, um, there's an American writer

00:38:13.780 called Brooks Adams, who was actually, uh, uh, grandson of, uh, John Quinn, Quincy Adams.

00:38:21.040 And he was related to like the second president, John Adams.

00:38:23.840 Right.

00:38:24.380 Um, and, um, he wrote this book called the law of civilization and decay, where again, like,

00:38:31.440 again, it was kind of Spangler before Spangler kind of proto Spangler book.

00:38:35.700 Um, and one of the things that really surprised me is that Theodore Roosevelt was a massive fan

00:38:43.420 of this book.

00:38:43.960 And when he was, uh, when he was in office in New York, before he became the president,

00:38:48.960 he gave this really detailed review of Brooks Adams, his law of civilization and decay, which

00:38:55.320 basically like convinced him that he needs to grab the mantle of history.

00:38:59.900 He's not going to allow this to happen to America and is essentially going to become

00:39:04.420 the great man.

00:39:06.000 Right.

00:39:06.520 And it kind of drove his, like he took Brooks Adams into his inner circle and he kind of

00:39:12.040 became self-aware of himself in history.

00:39:15.060 And, um, it's really interesting because, uh, Hitler also became aware of himself in history.

00:39:22.960 Uh, famously went to bed with a copy of, uh, Carlisle's Frederick II, you know, next to

00:39:28.380 his bed.

00:39:29.460 Um, and met, and met Spangler.

00:39:32.640 A lot of these, a lot of these people who became, became aware of cyclical history, then

00:39:38.480 kind of started to think of themselves in those terms.

00:39:41.780 What's really interesting to me is that liberalism and I guess what you call managerial liberalism,

00:39:48.140 especially really hates the great man, hates the idea of the hero, hates the, the notion

00:39:55.320 of the kind of, uh, Odinic figure.

00:39:59.620 Right.

00:40:00.060 So I think I'm part of, part of the hatred of Trump is this, whether he's, whether he

00:40:05.120 is this person or not is up for debate, but they see him as that.

00:40:08.820 And, um, the, the real antidote to the great man vision of history is actually Forrest Gump.

00:40:16.420 Right.

00:40:16.860 I mean, yeah.

00:40:18.240 Forrest Gump, who is basically like floats like a feather and kind of wanders through and

00:40:25.160 is caught and is kind of everywhere and everyone, but no one.

00:40:29.500 And this is like, this is the vision.

00:40:31.680 You have no agency really.

00:40:34.620 Um, and it's funny that, uh, you know, I mentioned Tony Blair earlier on.

00:40:39.580 I remember all his speeches, all Tony Blair speeches.

00:40:43.380 His vision of history was basically that the future as he sees it is inevitable.

00:40:50.140 Okay.

00:40:52.000 But, but Blair and the way that he speaks always posits history, like this massive steam train,

00:40:59.120 right?

00:40:59.940 It's, it's heading towards this destination at a million miles an hour.

00:41:04.240 And the only choice that we have to make as a country, Great Britain, you get on the steam

00:41:09.480 train or not.

00:41:10.500 And if you don't get on the steam train, you'll be left behind.

00:41:12.900 And so, so in a strange way, Blair's vision of history takes all agency out of it by positing

00:41:22.840 this, by positing this inevitable future.

00:41:26.080 It's like, well, the future is already decided.

00:41:27.980 You just have to ensure that you're in the right place so that, so that you're not, you

00:41:33.680 know, you're not in the left behind category.

00:41:35.660 Um, but then ironically, he then spends all his time, uh, building a power structure to

00:41:42.740 absolutely ensure it happens.

00:41:44.060 So it's kind of, it's kind of, um, yeah, but I mean, ultimately though, Richard, uh, before

00:41:50.420 I go, I don't actually agree with the idea that nobody is in charge.

00:41:54.880 Um, if, if we take Schmidt and co seriously, or, uh, or any of the, any of the theorists in

00:42:01.120 the, in the elite canon, there are always people in charge, right?

00:42:05.220 Um, the belief that nobody's in charge, I think comes from managerial pass the buck

00:42:10.880 culture, right?

00:42:11.780 You keep on passing the buck.

00:42:13.300 So ultimately you never take the rap for any decision.

00:42:16.960 Um, but in reality, there is all, everything is run by human decisions.

00:42:23.760 There is a decision maker somewhere.

00:42:26.340 And if it took, if there was somebody with enough will and self-belief, they could make

00:42:31.660 massive changes.

00:42:32.460 Um, and I, and I, and in a strange way, we're seeing other quasi-odinic figures, whether it's,

00:42:39.980 uh, Elon Musk or, I mean, in his, in his own sick way, even, uh, Netanyahu has started 0.70

00:42:47.340 to be a, or Putin.

00:42:48.860 Like these are, these are, these are people who are not buying into this idea that they're

00:42:54.580 little particles floating along.

00:42:56.740 They're actually trying to grab history by the scruff of the neck and by force of will

00:43:02.380 changing it, you know, and, um, this is what Donald Trump could be, but unfortunately he's

00:43:10.840 a boomer.

RadixJournal - January 10, 2024

Un-Orthodox Judaism

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