Elizabeth Warren leaked to the press that Bernie Sanders told her in private that a woman can't be president. Bernie strongly denied it, and Elizabeth's revolt against the patriarchy seems to have failed. Are the Bernie bros, the genuine left in the Democratic Party, getting woke to the Me Too Movement and the whole sham of woke culture in general? We discuss.
00:00:00.000Issue 2. Elizabeth Warren's Me Too misfire.
00:00:05.360This past week, Elizabeth Warren leaked to the press that Bernie Sanders told her in private that a woman can't be president.
00:00:13.100Bernie strongly denied it, and Warren's revolt against the patriarchy seems to have failed.
00:00:19.740Bernie's supporters rallied behind him, and Liz continued to dip in the polls.
00:00:23.860Are the Bernie bros, the genuine left in the Democratic Party, getting woke to the Me Too movement and the whole sham of woke culture in general?
00:00:53.000Bernie and Biden have both been consistently strong, and Liz, from what I can see, was attempting some Me Too dirty tricks.
00:01:05.780She first just tried to dance at rallies in order to demonstrate how relatable she was.
00:01:11.240But then she went all in and claimed that Bernie Sanders, in a private conversations that they had, Bernie Sanders claimed that a woman could not become president in the United States.
00:01:51.240The CNN moderator then proceeded to Elizabeth Warren and just assumed that she was true because, you know, is all true because, you know, believe all women and ask her, you know, what did you think when Bernie told you this?
00:02:04.040You know, we can hammer out what we think about what actually happened to that conversation.
00:02:15.860But I think it's – and if he said anything related to a woman not becoming president, I imagine he said something like, you know, if you're running in 2020 against Trump, it's going to be very difficult as a woman.
00:03:48.100Well, I certainly agree that I don't think Elizabeth Warren was telling the truth.
00:03:53.340She's not exactly someone I would look to for honesty.
00:03:57.920So that's my first reaction to that when that came out.
00:04:01.760But I do think there's a certain peak for the Me Too movement in the sense that when Me Too movement was at its height, I mean, there's always a sort of cynicism behind it.
00:04:12.600Like you're talking about Hollywood actresses speaking out against abuse.
00:04:15.860Of course, there was also a lot of legit cases that came out of that, like the abuse in Hollywood and child actors speaking out, which is certainly, I think, important.
00:04:23.880But there was a clear contradiction in the sense that you had these actresses speaking about the Me Too movement while supporting someone like Roman Polonski, right?
00:04:33.860So what it always seemed to me was more of a certain flash in the pan power play at the time, which preys on everyone's senses.
00:04:41.540But at the end of the day, it was more of a power move and assertion of a certain social message that they wanted to push.
00:04:49.760And I think that's certainly reaching its peak now in the fact that Bernie, this didn't harm Bernie at all.
00:04:56.420Like you said, it shot him up in the polls.
00:04:58.800And so I think that that cynical play is certainly coming to an end.
00:05:28.060There's two sides or many sides to any issue.
00:05:31.720But in in 2017 and 2018, the believe all women became a kind of silver bullet.
00:05:39.500If you decided that that affair you had with your boss, maybe years later, was something that that involved harassment or a power move or whatever, you could just destroy him instantly with a tweet.
00:06:08.460I mean, he's he's a social Democrat from another era, just kind of doesn't really go along with the wokeness.
00:06:16.040And and I think it's also interesting because there is a there's some clear like power divisions within the left involving the woke crowd, neoliberals and then the socialists.
00:06:30.100Whatever you want to say about Bernie and, you know, the real the realistic possibility of him implementing, you know, Medicare for all and a huge wealth tax and, you know, billionaires will become illegal.
00:06:42.160And whether you think he can do all that, I don't I think he's going to he would run into huge problems if he were elected.
00:06:54.760He is a real threat in a way that Pete Buttigieg is not.
00:07:02.420And so there's this interesting power dynamic where the neoliberals and the establishment have embraced wokeness and used it against an actual genuine socialist.
00:07:15.540And I think it's actually a positive thing.
00:07:18.720I think all of this, these claims about the Bernie bros being, you know, crypto right wing, you know, dirt bags, you know, type things.
00:07:27.980I think this is interesting in the sense that they actually push back against neoliberals and they are starting to view wokeness for what it is.
00:08:08.860I mean, first of all, with Elizabeth Warren, she's she's the person that said she was Native American, didn't she?
00:08:14.000On an application form, despite the fact that she has a very, very limited amount of Native American ancestry.
00:08:18.980I literally have more Native American ancestry than she does.
00:08:23.880I am like less than one percent, but I have some Mongolian heritage.
00:08:29.620I mean, I used to play I used to play Cavaliers and Indians when I was a child.
00:08:34.920So I think I have more Native American ancestry than she does.
00:08:37.940So she's not she's not a person that one would associate with being honest.
00:08:42.320Secondly, there was a study in 2011 by Jewhurst et al., which found that all else being equal, women are more likely to generate false memories than men.
00:08:49.920So all else being equal, all else is not equal, but were all else being equal, I would believe Bernie for that reason as well.
00:08:58.760Thirdly, even if Bernie did say what he is supposed to have said, I'm sure, as you say, it was said in a certain context.
00:09:05.960And she's reading it out of context due to her dishonesty and propensity for false memories.
00:09:12.740And so I don't think anybody should be penalized for saying something that's empirically accurate.
00:09:16.560In addition, yes, it may well be the case.
00:09:18.840Whenever you get some extremist movement like this and it goes far too far, like transsexuality, that movement, there is now a pushback against that.
00:09:27.380Even in Britain the other night on Question Time, there was some some plastic faced left wing academic who was who was accusing an actor who was on the panel of being racist.
00:09:40.020And he said, you were you're a privileged white man.
00:09:42.840And he said, I can't help the fact that I'm white.
00:09:45.740And there was this there was this applause.
00:09:47.960So there is, I think, some kind of gradual pushback even against that.
00:09:51.500And you would expect a pushback against the Me Too movement because it's so ludicrous.
00:09:54.920We know that females make false rape allegations and it damages men's lives.
00:09:59.620We know the idea that you should just believe women is absolute nonsense.
00:10:03.040And a good example of this was with that judge who they appointed.
00:10:06.860And there were these there was this hysteria and all these women remembering things from a long time ago as being harassment or whatever that I forget.
00:10:14.460It was a Supreme Court judge or something, what his name was.
00:10:16.540So, so, so, yeah, I would think that hopefully there is a movement against.
00:10:21.760I mean, I don't I don't think that it clearly Elizabeth Warren is not going to become president of the of the United States.
00:10:27.160That's not simply because she's a woman, but it's maybe partly because she's a woman, but it's also because of the nature of her.
00:10:32.720She's an unattractive both physically and psychologically.
00:10:35.180And I think it's very improbable that she'd be elected.
00:10:41.620Yeah, I mean, the woke left versus the socialist left or we want to call it the neoliberal left versus the genuine socialist left.
00:10:48.780I think the woke left has this assumption that the reason that we see so many antagonisms come from capitalism is because of the wrong people are in charge.
00:11:02.680They want what they buy and consume to reflect themselves.
00:11:05.860And all this ends up doing is instead of making a change of the system, it just provides bandage solutions that ultimately are a part of the system.
00:11:13.120They're part of capitalism's eroding process.
00:11:15.240And they create these multiplicity of identities which are purchased on the market.
00:11:19.340And you create this identity, whether that be trans or female empowerment or whatever have you.
00:11:24.820And there's a genuine pushback from the socialist left against this because they see this identity proliferation as stemming out of the antagonisms from capitalism itself.
00:11:34.880Now, they do take a more materialist bent, which I don't quite agree with.
00:11:38.540But regardless, there is a lot of antagonism coming to the forefront between these two groups, which are they make uneasy allies.
00:11:45.820And they do so from within the Democrat Party and from without the Democrat Party.
00:11:49.840Like you see a lot of tension, like just follow Amy Therese's Twitter feed and you'll you'll see it in real time.
00:11:57.480And so I think a if Bernie wants to make an impact, he's going to have to keep pushing the message he's pushing and not cock like he did in 2016.
00:12:08.300And he has to recognize the antagonism, just because remember, so many of these cultural forces were not coming from government.
00:12:16.060The conservatives always want to see and understandably, you know, historically speaking, want to see all these social cultural innovations as being foisted, forced upon them by government.
00:12:27.740You know, integration of schools was done at the point of a bayonet and et cetera.
00:12:32.800But a lot of these things are actually coming from the culture and coming from capital, corporate capitalism itself.
00:12:39.580And government is actually following behind now.
00:12:42.200I mean, the gay marriage issue, which is now passe at this point, but was quite big 10 years ago, that was, you know, accepted and promoted by Google and Apple and Microsoft and Goldman Sachs long before Barack Obama came out in favor of gay marriage.
00:13:00.820He was he was he was eight years behind the game and just following along.
00:13:05.900And so, yeah, I mean, there is I mean, to put on a Marxist cap here, there's this way that the corporation, which are, you know, accumulating billions of dollars and attempting to, you know, sell the same, you know, an iPad to the world will basically say, oh, look, you know, see, we're not the bad guys here.
00:13:23.340You know, you know, forget about those sweatshops and forget about income inequality and and forget about cetera.
00:13:29.680Remember, we accept transgendered employees.
00:13:32.780I mean, we're we're leftist, you know, effectively.
00:14:11.600But I think at some point he is going to he is already running up against this buzzsaw of wokeness of people who fear him legitimately and want to destroy him.
00:14:23.000And he's going to if he is going to actually have a movement that has an impact, he's going to have to face down the dragon and say, actually, all this wokeness is bullshit.
00:14:34.280It's a trick for you, you know, used by corporations to pretend like they're left wing.
00:14:40.440And we need to oppose it and engage in class politics.
00:14:43.800Yes, it's good. I just add it's it's it's virtue signaling.
00:14:47.200And that's all these people that you were talking about that are that are altering the demographics or the voting patterns of Virginia are exactly that.
00:14:55.300They are wealthy people who signal their virtue.
00:14:59.000But really, they are wealthy people and they want to be wealthy and they like being wealthy and they see themselves as superior to people that are less educated than them, less refined than them.
00:15:08.220They look down on them. They look down on them.
00:15:10.200They hate working class people. They hate working people.
00:15:12.900Same in Britain. Working people, these people that live in the north and vote for Brexit and whatever.
00:15:18.180Well, they live in the southern states and they vote for Trump.
00:15:21.680They're considered to be absolute scum, but they signal their virtue in relation to poor people who they don't really care about.
00:15:28.460Really, they like poor people who aren't of their race, which is interesting.
00:15:32.400It's interesting because there's evidence that you are less if you are less able to you are less often in some ways you are less disgusted by people of a different race
00:15:40.820because you are less good at reading signals of poor health in people of a different race than in your own race.
00:15:46.880So there's a sense in which you will be less disgusted by a poor Indian person than a poor white person,
00:15:52.900because the poor white person you'll read these subtle signals which will disgust you of poor health, of mutant genetics, of whatever, low intelligence even.
00:16:01.260But you won't read those as easily in someone of a different race.
00:17:43.100He's going to have to face it at some point.
00:17:44.980Also, I would add, it's very as tattoo of admins research has indicated, the more genetically diverse and whatever the society is, the more difficult it is to have social goods, such as a welfare state.
00:17:59.140It's very, very because people don't trust each other and it's not passing on their genes.
00:18:16.300But it would be very, very difficult in somewhere like New York City or whatever.
00:18:20.420Oh, look, when I was I spent a lot of time in Germany, you know, 10 or 15 years ago and, you know, going to the being in the subway system of Munich or something, you know, it's, you know, I don't I don't it was I don't know the even right analogy to have for it.
00:19:16.000There's a crazy person in the corner, you know, yelling at people or yelling at no one in particular.
00:19:22.380I mean, it feels I'm not exaggerating.
00:19:25.540It is a bizarre journey you take into the underworld, you know, and this can this can even happen in like Midtown or something like that.
00:19:35.480And so it's just yeah, I mean, this is why we can't have nice things, because in the country we hate each other and therefore we can't create these just basic infrastructures.
00:19:46.340I agree with so much of what Bernie wants.
00:19:49.980I think he wants decent things for people.
00:19:52.900You know, why don't we have a light rail system that connects all these cities?
00:19:57.560Why don't we have public transportation?
00:19:59.120Why don't we have a health care system that is affordable and isn't bankrupting half the population and where we're not spending twice as much as they spend in France or something?
00:20:07.620These are all completely reasonable things to say.
00:20:11.460He is not a radical, but it's like the reason we can't have nice things is because of multiculturalism and the fact that we all hate each other, which is very sad.
00:20:21.240Yeah, there's a classism that Bernie has to go up against as well.
00:20:26.200And the Bernie bros is there's a classicism within the woke left that manifests in certain ways when they try to construct, say, a capitalism with a human face that attempts to deal with the excesses created by global capitalism.
00:20:38.580So, for example, you see woke left solutions to environmental problems.
00:20:43.200So one thing they'll do is say, OK, well, we need to return to organic, fair trade, food, cleanly erased.
00:20:48.960So what ends up happening is it creates this this this this these products that you can purchase and you can clean your conscience of it because you purchase it organic, you purchase it for fair trade.
00:21:01.980You supported some poor worker somewhere.
00:21:04.680But at the same time, you're creating a classism within your own state and within your own nation in which the people the only very few amount of people is going to be able to afford this kind of this kind of luxury of saying, OK, I did the right thing.
00:21:20.420Capitalism can go on and more as it needs to do.
00:21:22.960And so there's there's this antagonism between the classism that creates between people that can afford that people that can't.
00:21:28.920And then you have another and you have the moral antagonism between the one group saying, oh, well, why did you purchase this?
00:21:35.580You're supporting this corporation over this one.
00:21:38.160You're supporting this capitalist over that one.
00:21:40.220And then you have the further antagonism and the fact that capitalism just morphs to include resistance into itself and becomes a part of its structure.
00:21:48.220And I think the bird birdie and the birdie bros are going to have to tackle that sort of classism and ability for capitalism to metastasize and take within itself its own antagonism.
00:21:58.220It's a bit like purchasing indulgences, isn't it?
00:23:16.180That's when we engage in it, though, when we do the things that they want us to do, we're guilty about our carbon footprint or whatever it is.
00:23:23.100We're giving the power over our minds.
00:23:25.200That's why it has to be the attitude of Jonathan Bowden of just we're not sorry.