RadixJournal - Warren's #MeToo Misfire

00:00:00.000 Issue 2. Elizabeth Warren's Me Too misfire.

00:00:05.360 This past week, Elizabeth Warren leaked to the press that Bernie Sanders told her in private that a woman can't be president. 0.83

00:00:13.100 Bernie strongly denied it, and Warren's revolt against the patriarchy seems to have failed.

00:00:19.740 Bernie's supporters rallied behind him, and Liz continued to dip in the polls.

00:00:23.860 Are the Bernie bros, the genuine left in the Democratic Party, getting woke to the Me Too movement and the whole sham of woke culture in general?

00:00:34.160 We discuss.

00:00:38.280 All right, so a quick recap of the politics of this past week.

00:00:46.340 Elizabeth Warren has clearly peaked.

00:00:49.720 She was going up in the polls.

00:00:51.740 She's now flagging.

00:00:53.000 Bernie and Biden have both been consistently strong, and Liz, from what I can see, was attempting some Me Too dirty tricks.

00:01:05.780 She first just tried to dance at rallies in order to demonstrate how relatable she was. 0.94

00:01:11.240 But then she went all in and claimed that Bernie Sanders, in a private conversations that they had, Bernie Sanders claimed that a woman could not become president in the United States.

00:01:23.520 This was leaked to Politico.

00:01:26.180 It was clearly leaked either by her or a member of her staff.

00:01:30.480 And then it was brought up again in a CNN debate this past week.

00:01:38.080 Bernie strongly denied it.

00:01:39.980 He said that such a statement never happened and that there is clear evidence that he thinks a woman can become president.

00:01:48.940 So what are you saying?

00:01:51.240 The CNN moderator then proceeded to Elizabeth Warren and just assumed that she was true because, you know, is all true because, you know, believe all women and ask her, you know, what did you think when Bernie told you this? 0.92

00:02:04.040 You know, we can hammer out what we think about what actually happened to that conversation.

00:02:11.640 I actually don't believe it at all.

00:02:13.640 I think Bernie is telling the truth.

00:02:15.860 But I think it's – and if he said anything related to a woman not becoming president, I imagine he said something like, you know, if you're running in 2020 against Trump, it's going to be very difficult as a woman.

00:02:29.040 Take it from me.

00:02:30.420 So I can imagine him saying something like that, which is, of course, entirely accurate and non-offensive in the slightest.

00:02:38.420 But I don't think he's a crypto-misogynist, crypto-patriarchalist or whatever.

00:02:44.780 But I think it is very interesting, and I'll go to you first, Tyler, that Bernie didn't cuck.

00:02:53.760 And even though Bernie is a get-along type person, he wants everyone to be united.

00:03:01.200 He doesn't want to get into fights.

00:03:02.940 He's always talking about my friend Joe Biden, who's terrible on most all issues, but he's a great guy.

00:03:08.080 He wants to get along with everyone, but whatever you want to say about him, he didn't cuck to Elizabeth Warren.

00:03:16.480 And he had a big fundraising bonanza immediately after the debate, and he has gone up in the polls.

00:03:24.220 It's just one poll, but clearly he is not devastated, destroyed by these accusations, a la Bill O'Reilly or Harvey Weinstein or so on.

00:03:36.480 And so I would just put it to you, is Me Too, has it peaked?

00:03:43.380 Is it over?

00:03:44.520 Is Bernie the one who killed it?

00:03:48.100 Well, I certainly agree that I don't think Elizabeth Warren was telling the truth.

00:03:53.340 She's not exactly someone I would look to for honesty.

00:03:57.920 So that's my first reaction to that when that came out.

00:04:01.760 But I do think there's a certain peak for the Me Too movement in the sense that when Me Too movement was at its height, I mean, there's always a sort of cynicism behind it.

00:04:12.600 Like you're talking about Hollywood actresses speaking out against abuse.

00:04:15.860 Of course, there was also a lot of legit cases that came out of that, like the abuse in Hollywood and child actors speaking out, which is certainly, I think, important.

00:04:23.880 But there was a clear contradiction in the sense that you had these actresses speaking about the Me Too movement while supporting someone like Roman Polonski, right?

00:04:33.860 So what it always seemed to me was more of a certain flash in the pan power play at the time, which preys on everyone's senses.

00:04:41.540 But at the end of the day, it was more of a power move and assertion of a certain social message that they wanted to push.

00:04:49.760 And I think that's certainly reaching its peak now in the fact that Bernie, this didn't harm Bernie at all.

00:04:56.420 Like you said, it shot him up in the polls.

00:04:58.800 And so I think that that cynical play is certainly coming to an end.

00:05:03.500 That's my initial reaction to that. 0.97

00:05:05.480 Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's a silver bullet and this believe all women, which is ridiculous on its face. 1.00

00:05:14.620 I mean, it's ridiculous just from a liberal standpoint, even. 0.84

00:05:19.120 I mean, the fact is the the liberal view is presumption of innocence.

00:05:23.420 Let's investigate this claim.

00:05:25.440 Some people lie.

00:05:26.420 Memory can be fallible.

00:05:28.060 There's two sides or many sides to any issue.

00:05:31.720 But in in 2017 and 2018, the believe all women became a kind of silver bullet.

00:05:39.500 If you decided that that affair you had with your boss, maybe years later, was something that that involved harassment or a power move or whatever, you could just destroy him instantly with a tweet.

00:05:52.560 And I agree.

00:05:54.700 I think there was almost a kind of necessary backlash to that.

00:05:58.960 And Bernie, who's, you know, this guy who's kind of living.

00:06:03.780 I mean, he's a retro leftist in his way.

00:06:07.000 He's conservative, you could say.

00:06:08.460 I mean, he's he's a social Democrat from another era, just kind of doesn't really go along with the wokeness. 0.79

00:06:16.040 And and I think it's also interesting because there is a there's some clear like power divisions within the left involving the woke crowd, neoliberals and then the socialists.

00:06:30.100 Whatever you want to say about Bernie and, you know, the real the realistic possibility of him implementing, you know, Medicare for all and a huge wealth tax and, you know, billionaires will become illegal.

00:06:42.160 And whether you think he can do all that, I don't I think he's going to he would run into huge problems if he were elected.

00:06:49.500 He is a threat to an elite.

00:06:54.760 He is a real threat in a way that Pete Buttigieg is not.

00:07:02.420 And so there's this interesting power dynamic where the neoliberals and the establishment have embraced wokeness and used it against an actual genuine socialist.

00:07:15.540 And I think it's actually a positive thing.

00:07:18.720 I think all of this, these claims about the Bernie bros being, you know, crypto right wing, you know, dirt bags, you know, type things.

00:07:27.980 I think this is interesting in the sense that they actually push back against neoliberals and they are starting to view wokeness for what it is.

00:07:36.240 It's an ideology of capitalism.

00:07:39.280 It's it's it's it's a false version of the left that's not revolutionary at all.

00:07:44.760 It's about kind of maintaining the current order, but putting women there and they're actually fighting against it. 1.00

00:07:52.140 And I've seen a kind of like awakening.

00:07:55.260 I mean, it's funny to use that word, but among genuine leftists with this issue that is actually quite, you know, refreshing.

00:08:04.040 Yes, I think I would agree.

00:08:08.860 I mean, first of all, with Elizabeth Warren, she's she's the person that said she was Native American, didn't she?

00:08:14.000 On an application form, despite the fact that she has a very, very limited amount of Native American ancestry.

00:08:18.980 I literally have more Native American ancestry than she does.

00:08:23.880 I am like less than one percent, but I have some Mongolian heritage.

00:08:29.620 I mean, I used to play I used to play Cavaliers and Indians when I was a child.

00:08:34.920 So I think I have more Native American ancestry than she does.

00:08:37.940 So she's not she's not a person that one would associate with being honest.

00:08:42.320 Secondly, there was a study in 2011 by Jewhurst et al., which found that all else being equal, women are more likely to generate false memories than men.

00:08:49.920 So all else being equal, all else is not equal, but were all else being equal, I would believe Bernie for that reason as well.

00:08:58.760 Thirdly, even if Bernie did say what he is supposed to have said, I'm sure, as you say, it was said in a certain context.

00:09:05.960 And she's reading it out of context due to her dishonesty and propensity for false memories.

00:09:10.400 And also, he may well be right.

00:09:12.740 And so I don't think anybody should be penalized for saying something that's empirically accurate.

00:09:16.560 In addition, yes, it may well be the case.

00:09:18.840 Whenever you get some extremist movement like this and it goes far too far, like transsexuality, that movement, there is now a pushback against that. 0.90

00:09:27.380 Even in Britain the other night on Question Time, there was some some plastic faced left wing academic who was who was accusing an actor who was on the panel of being racist.

00:09:40.020 And he said, you were you're a privileged white man.

00:09:42.840 And he said, I can't help the fact that I'm white. 0.79

00:09:44.380 You're being racist. 1.00

00:09:45.140 You're racist. 0.99

00:09:45.740 And there was this there was this applause. 0.96

00:09:47.960 So there is, I think, some kind of gradual pushback even against that. 0.89

00:09:51.500 And you would expect a pushback against the Me Too movement because it's so ludicrous.

00:09:54.920 We know that females make false rape allegations and it damages men's lives. 0.99

00:09:59.620 We know the idea that you should just believe women is absolute nonsense.

00:10:03.040 And a good example of this was with that judge who they appointed.

00:10:06.860 And there were these there was this hysteria and all these women remembering things from a long time ago as being harassment or whatever that I forget.

00:10:14.460 It was a Supreme Court judge or something, what his name was.

00:10:16.540 So, so, so, yeah, I would think that hopefully there is a movement against.

00:10:21.760 I mean, I don't I don't think that it clearly Elizabeth Warren is not going to become president of the of the United States.

00:10:27.160 That's not simply because she's a woman, but it's maybe partly because she's a woman, but it's also because of the nature of her. 0.99

00:10:32.720 She's an unattractive both physically and psychologically. 1.00

00:10:35.180 And I think it's very improbable that she'd be elected.

00:10:40.300 Hopefully.

00:10:41.620 Yeah, I mean, the woke left versus the socialist left or we want to call it the neoliberal left versus the genuine socialist left.

00:10:48.780 I think the woke left has this assumption that the reason that we see so many antagonisms come from capitalism is because of the wrong people are in charge.

00:10:57.340 Right.

00:10:57.460 They just want more people to be drawn up into positions of power.

00:11:00.780 They want them.

00:11:01.420 They want it to reflect themselves.

00:11:02.680 They want what they buy and consume to reflect themselves.

00:11:05.860 And all this ends up doing is instead of making a change of the system, it just provides bandage solutions that ultimately are a part of the system.

00:11:13.120 They're part of capitalism's eroding process.

00:11:15.240 And they create these multiplicity of identities which are purchased on the market.

00:11:19.340 And you create this identity, whether that be trans or female empowerment or whatever have you.

00:11:24.820 And there's a genuine pushback from the socialist left against this because they see this identity proliferation as stemming out of the antagonisms from capitalism itself.

00:11:34.880 Now, they do take a more materialist bent, which I don't quite agree with.

00:11:38.540 But regardless, there is a lot of antagonism coming to the forefront between these two groups, which are they make uneasy allies.

00:11:45.820 And they do so from within the Democrat Party and from without the Democrat Party.

00:11:49.840 Like you see a lot of tension, like just follow Amy Therese's Twitter feed and you'll you'll see it in real time.

00:11:57.140 Right.

00:11:57.480 And so I think a if Bernie wants to make an impact, he's going to have to keep pushing the message he's pushing and not cock like he did in 2016.

00:12:08.300 And he has to recognize the antagonism, just because remember, so many of these cultural forces were not coming from government.

00:12:16.060 The conservatives always want to see and understandably, you know, historically speaking, want to see all these social cultural innovations as being foisted, forced upon them by government.

00:12:27.740 You know, integration of schools was done at the point of a bayonet and et cetera.

00:12:32.800 But a lot of these things are actually coming from the culture and coming from capital, corporate capitalism itself.

00:12:39.580 And government is actually following behind now.

00:12:42.200 I mean, the gay marriage issue, which is now passe at this point, but was quite big 10 years ago, that was, you know, accepted and promoted by Google and Apple and Microsoft and Goldman Sachs long before Barack Obama came out in favor of gay marriage.

00:13:00.820 He was he was he was eight years behind the game and just following along.

00:13:05.900 And so, yeah, I mean, there is I mean, to put on a Marxist cap here, there's this way that the corporation, which are, you know, accumulating billions of dollars and attempting to, you know, sell the same, you know, an iPad to the world will basically say, oh, look, you know, see, we're not the bad guys here.

00:13:23.340 You know, you know, forget about those sweatshops and forget about income inequality and and forget about cetera.

00:13:29.680 Remember, we accept transgendered employees.

00:13:32.780 I mean, we're we're leftist, you know, effectively.

00:13:36.320 You can't criticize us.

00:13:37.640 And the the wokeness just becomes this mask on capitalism and accumulation.

00:13:45.520 And I and I do think that people like the Bernie bro type does get this.

00:13:50.880 He might not articulate it like we do, but he does get it.

00:13:54.320 At some point, Bernie is going to have to address this.

00:13:59.020 I mean, Bernie will address this in a friendly manner, basically saying it doesn't matter what color you are, what what gender you are.

00:14:07.020 It's all about are you on the side of working people?

00:14:10.180 And and that, you know, fair enough.

00:14:11.600 But I think at some point he is going to he is already running up against this buzzsaw of wokeness of people who fear him legitimately and want to destroy him. 0.99

00:14:23.000 And he's going to if he is going to actually have a movement that has an impact, he's going to have to face down the dragon and say, actually, all this wokeness is bullshit. 0.87

00:14:34.280 It's a trick for you, you know, used by corporations to pretend like they're left wing. 0.89

00:14:40.440 And we need to oppose it and engage in class politics.

00:14:43.800 Yes, it's good. I just add it's it's it's virtue signaling.

00:14:47.200 And that's all these people that you were talking about that are that are altering the demographics or the voting patterns of Virginia are exactly that.

00:14:55.300 They are wealthy people who signal their virtue.

00:14:59.000 But really, they are wealthy people and they want to be wealthy and they like being wealthy and they see themselves as superior to people that are less educated than them, less refined than them.

00:15:08.220 They look down on them. They look down on them.

00:15:10.200 They hate working class people. They hate working people. 1.00

00:15:12.900 Same in Britain. Working people, these people that live in the north and vote for Brexit and whatever. 0.98

00:15:18.180 Well, they live in the southern states and they vote for Trump. 0.99

00:15:21.680 They're considered to be absolute scum, but they signal their virtue in relation to poor people who they don't really care about. 0.99

00:15:28.460 Really, they like poor people who aren't of their race, which is interesting. 0.98

00:15:32.400 It's interesting because there's evidence that you are less if you are less able to you are less often in some ways you are less disgusted by people of a different race

00:15:40.820 because you are less good at reading signals of poor health in people of a different race than in your own race.

00:15:46.880 So there's a sense in which you will be less disgusted by a poor Indian person than a poor white person, 0.55

00:15:52.900 because the poor white person you'll read these subtle signals which will disgust you of poor health, of mutant genetics, of whatever, low intelligence even.

00:16:01.260 But you won't read those as easily in someone of a different race.

00:16:03.800 It's quite an interesting phenomenon.

00:16:05.400 And so, yeah.

00:16:06.320 Do you think that Birdie's genuine, though?

00:16:08.060 Do you think that he's just a virtue signal as well, but with regard to class?

00:16:11.220 No, I think he's genuine.

00:16:14.200 Unlike Elizabeth Warren, who's either fake with the wokeness or has a kind of middle class background.

00:16:24.600 Whenever she's gone after power, she goes after it in this kind of fake, maybe naive way.

00:16:32.660 It's like she'll yell at Wall Street while she's enacting a bailout for them. 0.99

00:16:39.440 She'll talk about reforming the kind of retail end of finance and so on while not really attacking money power.

00:16:47.040 And again, I'm not really a leftist, but I kind of respect someone who goes after the dragon, you know,

00:16:53.700 and doesn't, you know, you know, beat around the bush here and there, you know,

00:16:59.440 who's going after things that aren't powerful, which is, you know, like the white working class.

00:17:04.540 So I think Bernie is genuine.

00:17:06.380 I think he's, again, due to his age, maybe to a large extent, he's just outmoded.

00:17:11.600 He's kind of a he's like a mainstream social Democrat from Germany in the 1970s or something.

00:17:19.100 You know, you know, we need national health care.

00:17:21.100 We need a social security system.

00:17:22.960 I mean, these are the kind of things that were created in the 19th century, you know, by Bismarck and people like that.

00:17:30.600 And he's now bringing them to America. 0.77

00:17:32.640 I don't think he quite gets the level of of cultural virtue signaling toxicity that defines the left now.

00:17:41.560 And but also he's going to win.

00:17:43.100 He's going to have to face it at some point.

00:17:44.980 Also, I would add, it's very as tattoo of admins research has indicated, the more genetically diverse and whatever the society is, the more difficult it is to have social goods, such as a welfare state.

00:17:59.140 It's very, very because people don't trust each other and it's not passing on their genes.

00:18:04.140 It's not.

00:18:04.540 That's why I don't see it could work at a state level.

00:18:07.460 I mean, I could see how the state of Maine or something like that, presumably they're trying to make more diverse just because it isn't.

00:18:13.780 It could sustain something like that.

00:18:16.300 But it would be very, very difficult in somewhere like New York City or whatever.

00:18:20.420 Oh, look, when I was I spent a lot of time in Germany, you know, 10 or 15 years ago and, you know, going to the being in the subway system of Munich or something, you know, it's, you know, I don't I don't it was I don't know the even right analogy to have for it.

00:18:38.500 It was clean.

00:18:39.980 Everyone was reasonable.

00:18:41.760 You had a, you know, maybe a drunk person here and there, but it was it was safe.

00:18:47.500 It was just it was like living in the future.

00:18:50.420 I have a friend from lives in New York and we hold it together in Northern Ireland.

00:18:59.520 Oh, yeah.

00:19:00.200 And I'm talking about Belfast as well.

00:19:02.180 So the biggest city and he just couldn't believe it because he just everybody's white without the New York subway. 0.74

00:19:08.580 I mean, I've used it, but I mean, it is insane.

00:19:12.020 I mean, there's just vomit on the seat.

00:19:14.600 No one's talking to each other.

00:19:16.000 There's a crazy person in the corner, you know, yelling at people or yelling at no one in particular.

00:19:22.380 I mean, it feels I'm not exaggerating.

00:19:25.540 It is a bizarre journey you take into the underworld, you know, and this can this can even happen in like Midtown or something like that.

00:19:35.480 And so it's just yeah, I mean, this is why we can't have nice things, because in the country we hate each other and therefore we can't create these just basic infrastructures.

00:19:46.340 I agree with so much of what Bernie wants.

00:19:49.980 I think he wants decent things for people.

00:19:52.900 You know, why don't we have a light rail system that connects all these cities?

00:19:57.560 Why don't we have public transportation?

00:19:59.120 Why don't we have a health care system that is affordable and isn't bankrupting half the population and where we're not spending twice as much as they spend in France or something?

00:20:07.620 These are all completely reasonable things to say.

00:20:11.460 He is not a radical, but it's like the reason we can't have nice things is because of multiculturalism and the fact that we all hate each other, which is very sad.

00:20:21.240 Yeah, there's a classism that Bernie has to go up against as well.

00:20:26.200 And the Bernie bros is there's a classicism within the woke left that manifests in certain ways when they try to construct, say, a capitalism with a human face that attempts to deal with the excesses created by global capitalism.

00:20:38.580 So, for example, you see woke left solutions to environmental problems.

00:20:43.200 So one thing they'll do is say, OK, well, we need to return to organic, fair trade, food, cleanly erased.

00:20:48.960 So what ends up happening is it creates this this this this these products that you can purchase and you can clean your conscience of it because you purchase it organic, you purchase it for fair trade.

00:21:01.980 You supported some poor worker somewhere.

00:21:04.680 But at the same time, you're creating a classism within your own state and within your own nation in which the people the only very few amount of people is going to be able to afford this kind of this kind of luxury of saying, OK, I did the right thing.

00:21:17.380 I purchased the fair trade food.

00:21:18.960 You know, my conscious is clean.

00:21:20.420 Capitalism can go on and more as it needs to do.

00:21:22.960 And so there's there's this antagonism between the classism that creates between people that can afford that people that can't.

00:21:28.920 And then you have another and you have the moral antagonism between the one group saying, oh, well, why did you purchase this?

00:21:35.580 You're supporting this corporation over this one.

00:21:38.160 You're supporting this capitalist over that one.

00:21:40.220 And then you have the further antagonism and the fact that capitalism just morphs to include resistance into itself and becomes a part of its structure.

00:21:48.220 And I think the bird birdie and the birdie bros are going to have to tackle that sort of classism and ability for capitalism to metastasize and take within itself its own antagonism.

00:21:58.220 It's a bit like purchasing indulgences, isn't it?

00:22:02.220 In the in the catholic.

00:22:04.240 It's like I went and bought some organic food.

00:22:07.300 I feel better now, even though I do nothing positive for the world.

00:22:12.380 But I bought some organic food.

00:22:13.840 It's like indulgences.

00:22:14.220 Yeah, it is exactly.

00:22:16.840 I mean, it's it's like we've we've due to the left.

00:22:20.880 We've kind of had a certain guilt of, you know, getting a Starbucks.

00:22:24.520 You know, this is this is frivolous expenditure.

00:22:27.280 There are people starving in Africa right now and you're drinking a macchiato in New York City.

00:22:32.620 How dare you?

00:22:33.700 But then you purchase a fair trade Starbucks and you think, oh, look, I'm actually I'm helping the Africans by doing this.

00:22:40.560 You know, I I'm I'm actually better than you are.

00:22:43.780 I'm I'm engaging in activism right now, you know, by drinking.

00:22:49.300 Yeah, it's having your cake and eating it, too, which is what capitalism is brilliant at.

00:22:54.620 Capitalism can, you know, absorb all of these energies.

00:22:59.040 Capital, you know, there's this.

00:23:00.580 When we engage.

00:23:02.380 Yeah, sorry.

00:23:03.840 Yeah, it can absorb the left quite easily.

00:23:06.840 It can absorb its own contradiction and and an enemy and sell you that.

00:23:12.860 Which is brilliant and amazing.

00:23:16.180 That's when we engage in it, though, when we do the things that they want us to do, we're guilty about our carbon footprint or whatever it is.

00:23:23.100 We're giving the power over our minds.

00:23:25.200 That's why it has to be the attitude of Jonathan Bowden of just we're not sorry.

00:23:29.120 We're not sorry.

00:23:30.180 I'm not going to recycle.

00:23:31.640 I'm not going to recycle.

00:23:32.700 I'm not going to do any of the things that you put it.

00:23:35.200 It was perfectly acceptable to put it in one big bag in 1985.

00:23:37.700 Why isn't it now?

00:23:39.500 You people in power were telling me to do that in 1985.

00:23:42.140 Why not now?

00:23:42.700 I'm not sorry.

00:23:43.800 Don't be sorry.

00:23:44.940 Get on with it.

00:23:45.800 Well, you should recycle that.

00:23:48.740 No, that's the power.

00:23:49.760 Yeah, you should.

00:23:52.280 As Mr. Burns said, if Mother Nature wants us to look after her, why does she send us storms and hurricanes?

00:23:57.760 I mean, come on.

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RadixJournal - January 19, 2020

Warren's #MeToo Misfire

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