Was the press conference from hell a set up?
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In this episode of the podcast, host Alex Blumbergert talks about the fallout from President Trump's press conference with Ukraine s foreign minister, Vladamir Zelensky, and Russian foreign minister J.D. Vance.
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I'll start talking. Well, today seemed to be a tempest in a teacup with world historical
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geopolitical consequences. That seems like a contradiction in terms in many ways, but I think
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that's what just happened. So my question is, was it a setup? Was it planned? Or are we really
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changing geopolitical positioning and alignment on the basis of a press conference gone wrong?
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Or the fact that J.D. Bounce was really, he was just very concerned that Zelensky didn't say thank
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you. I'm beginning to think it was a setup. So just to lay the groundwork here, Zelensky was in town.
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He was in Washington, D.C. He's meeting with Trump and company, Rubio Vance. The big news of the past
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week to 10 days has been, first off, Trump bad-mouthing Zelensky in ways that are quite
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surprising. And second off, his offering of a deal for rare earth and mineral rights in Ukraine. Now,
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I am not a geologist, but I have looked into this. And these are, he's talking about, at least in this
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instance, or mostly on the east of the country. Some of these territories are currently occupied by
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Russia. Some are not. It's, you know, it's murky. It's complex. Trump is demanding a kind of
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co-partnership or co-ownership partnership with these mineral rights and to the tune of 5 billion or some,
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you know, otherworldly number like that. Now, many people look at this as just outright
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exploitation. And it is to a large degree. At the same time, facing reality, Ukraine is in a very
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difficult position. Maybe if they simply refuse to lose, they've got to make some deals like this,
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desperate times, desperate measures, et cetera.
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My point in analyzing the situation is that even though Trump is bad-mouthing Zelensky and his MAGA
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followers are just outright at this point, anti-Zelensky and anti-Ukraine, that if a rare earth
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and mineral deal is to take place, then that would imply a commitment with Ukraine. That would imply
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that Trump is in it to win it. After all, he doesn't want Ukraine to lose because he would
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also be losing those mineral rights. Now, Putin has also made an offer of, well, you know, I'll give
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you the rare earths or something like this. It's murky to say the least. But anyway, Zelensky was in
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town. And I watched the entire 50-minute press conference. And if you watch about the first 30
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minutes of it, you would think that everything was hunky-dory. Now, there were a couple of situations
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very similar to Trump's meeting with Macron, where he said something to the effect of, you know,
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frankly, we have done everything and Europe has done nothing. It always hurts my throat to do my
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Trump impression. And Zelensky is like, no, that is not true, Mr. President. And then you have this
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kind of odd series of men, heterosexual men, touching each other's knees in a friendly fashion.
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I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's European. Who knows? But very much like with Macron, you had that
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same situation going on. So yeah, there was a little bit of tension. There's some disagreement,
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but it did seem hunky-dory to me. And then J.D. Vance entered the chat and J.D. Vance went after
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Zelensky. And I don't think there's any other way to say it. And it also is sort of psychologically
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revealing about J.D. Vance, because he didn't really say anything of substance. He basically
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reiterated a bunch of dissident right talking points that you find on Twitter. And if you want to call
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them Kremlin talking points, you can. There's no real difference between these. So he made a sort of
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free speech argument. I mean, I don't even know. It's a non-secretary. I don't even know what he's
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saying. Basically, Europe is censoring conservatives on social media platforms in Europe. Europe likes
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Ukraine. Therefore, we shouldn't like Ukraine. I mean, I don't even know what the hell he's even
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saying. He's just sort of, again, reiterating a kind of, you know, is it true? Is it sure to some
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extent, I guess? But it's basically just a distraction, deflection, misinformation. Then he
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said, you know, with respect, you haven't shown this president enough respect. You've been bad-mouthing
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drunk. And it's just this pathetic demand for respect from Zelensky, which ironically demonstrates
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J.D. Vance's own psychological complex, his feeling of inferiority, his feeling understandable in many
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ways of not fitting in, of, you know, going to those dinners when he was at Yale and he didn't know what
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to do with that spoon that it was above, you know, the plate. Is it like the spoon on the side? He'd
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never knew. He had to call up Usha to get some advice on silverware. Anyway, he doesn't, he's not
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comfortable in his own skin. He's, he has an inferiority complex, understandable in a way, because
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I don't think J.D. Vance is a terribly impressive person. And he keeps pushing Zelensky,
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and then Zelensky, this is a guy. Yeah. He's a comedian. He's a professional comedian. He was an
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actor. He played the president of Ukraine before he was the president of Ukraine. He's dressed in
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drag like almost every comedian who's worth his salt, you could say. But he's also faced down hell
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on earth and stood tall against a Russian invasion. So yeah, he pushed back. He probably
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shouldn't have. He probably should have just sat there and eaten shit, to be honest. But
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he pushed back and then it started to get out of control. He said some things like, you know,
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you have an ocean separating you from Russia and from Europe. This is, you know, the blessed state of
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America, which we've enjoyed for so long, but you're going to feel it. You're going to feel
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the Russian menace, is what he was basically saying. And Donald Trump, who has a very different
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psychology than J.D. Vance, is like, no, no, you can't tell us what we feel. No, no, we're going to
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feel great. We're going to feel strong. It's going to be fantastic. Trump, in his kind of crazy,
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narcissistic way, you know, creates his own reality. Like you could never tell me what I
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would feel. And so that was Trump's response, but things got extremely heated. Next thing you know,
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the whole situation is blown up. Next thing you know, Zelensky is leaving Washington. Next thing you
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know, there was a report that Hegseth is ceasing all cyber security, cyber attack strategy and planning
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and operations against Russia. Next thing you know, whether it's reality or not, it really felt like
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Ukraine had been sold down, sold down the river, had just simply been abandoned. And Trump is basically
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like, you know, I can't make a deal with Putin if you're going to insult him like this.
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The reason why Ukraine didn't fold, the reason why Zelensky didn't flee the country immediately
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is because he has balls. And yeah, he was, and maybe still is a kind of celebrity among liberals and the
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woke and the people who listen to U2 albums, remembering the glory days of the American century.
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Sure, he is. But you don't do what he has done if you don't have a pair of balls. And he has them and
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he stood up to this ridiculous man, Vance. So I guess my question is here, and I've been rambling a lot
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before getting to the question, you know, right at the heart of this live stream, is what just happened?
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Are we really to believe that geopolitics have fundamentally shifted due to a dust up at a
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press conference? Or is all this a setup? That is, is the, did J.D. Vance purposefully antagonize
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Zelensky. And was he antagonizing Zelensky before the press conference so that you could have some
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startling disagreement like this so that the Trump administration could do what it already wanted to
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do, which was sell out Ukraine, align with Russia. And I think it goes a lot deeper and it's a lot
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bigger than that. Align with Russia and Israel to focus on the Middle East.
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Is that what just happened? It just strikes me as hard to believe that conservatives or Trump and
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Vance are such delicate snowflakes that they would blow something up just over some harsh words.
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Now, Trump actually gave a revealing comment in the first 30 or so minutes of this, where he said,
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you know, Zelensky, he hates Putin, and I understand why. But I can't bad mouth either,
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either fellow in order to get a deal, I'm going to get the greatest deal. And then he pointed to
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Zelensky and Vance, and he said, these two don't like each other very much.
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That seemed to suggest that before the press conference, Vance was already antagonizing
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Zelensky, already doing these, you know, Twitter brained propaganda, dissident right bullshit
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arguments against him the whole time. But again, my bigger question is, is it a setup? Now,
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this is something that I've articulated in some other venues. But my feeling is that
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what we're seeing really is the Seychelles Islands plan from 2017, that didn't take place in
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in the first Trump administration is actually coming to fruition in the second Trump administration.
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So in the winter, I think of 2017, Eric Prince of Blackwater fame or infamy, met with a manager of
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the Russian sovereign wealth fund in the Seychelles Islands. And the thought there was that Russia,
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why do you unlink with Iran, link up with the US, we are going to end the sanctions, we're going to be
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nice to you, link up with the US in an antagonistic campaign, and maybe even war against Iran.
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Now, this was reported in the Washington Post. And this sort of explains it all. Once you know this
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little tidbit, it explains things that are otherwise illogical about the first Trump administration.
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So Donald Trump pleased a lot of us, he pleased the alt right, he pleased the paleo conservatives,
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he pleased the libertarians, and so on, by his seemingly peaceful attitude towards Russia. It's
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like Russia is a big country, we should get along if they're fighting ISIS, Syria, let them. Why don't
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we work with them? Why don't we help them, as opposed to treating them as an enemy? But also echoed,
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and Trump wouldn't want to hear this, this also echoed so many of the comments that Obama made. Now,
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Obama wouldn't use those words, exactly. But Obama, when he was running against Mitt Romney said,
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listen, Mitt, the Cold War is over. Listen, grandpa, the Cold War is over. And Russia is not a strategic
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enemy, we need to move beyond that. He also, when a red line was crossed in Syria, whatever you want
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to think about that, he also punted to Congress and then just avoided any sort of war with Syria.
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It was, in effect, the very least not antagonizing Russia, if not working with Russia. So we all saw
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that. And the alt right, as it was called, or paleocons, or libertarians, whatever, we were all
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like, oh, this is great. We've got a Bismarck in office. He is a realist. He is going to work with
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other world powers. He's going to be sane, grounded, et cetera, et cetera. But there was another aspect
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to Trump that I think all of us tried to avoid and not think about. And that was the fact that he over
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and over and over again said that the Iran nuclear deal was the worst deal in history, the worst thing
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ever. And he basically took Israel's side, tore up the Iran deal when he got into office, and had this
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sort of angry but vague vehemence against the Iran deal. Which, I guess, arguably, if you think of it
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in a way, if Iran is being paid off to not create a nuclear weapon, maybe you sort of, by tearing that
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up, you might even want them to create a nuclear weapon. Certainly, being that antagonistic and not
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offering any sort of mediation would logically lead someone to, in fact, get a nuclear weapon
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as the one true way of preventing any sort of American regime change war.
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So we didn't square any of these things. We, alt-right libertarians, et cetera, we heard what we wanted
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to hear. It's just like, oh, yeah, he sounds like Bismarck or something. That's great. But we just sort
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of avoided the hyper-Zionism that Trump also expressed. Now, in office as well, Trump almost
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started a war with Iran. He kind of aborted it at the last minute, like one of those Mission
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Impossible films, like abort, abort, abort, you know. But he assassinated a major figure in Iran and
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bought us pretty close. He gave the Golan Heights to Israel. He moved the embassy. We all know it. He's
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the most Zionist president in our history. According to Trump and according to his fans,
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not the alt-right, not the paleocons, his real fans, the ones that hang on his every word and will go
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with them anywhere. The most pro-Israel president ever. So that's the reality of the situation. And so
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that's how I see all of this lining up in the future. We are going to decouple from NATO, perhaps,
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but Europe, more or less, dump Ukraine. Europe, you take care of it. It's in your backyard. Who cares?
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But, and that, from some, from the standpoint of, say, the anti-war right or the anti-war left,
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for that matter, that's all great. But what's step two? There's no, I remember hearing,
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I think it was Jerry Jones at one point, the owner of the Cowboys, and he was like,
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it's like squeezing Jell-O. Like, you squeeze it over here and it comes out there. You squeeze it here
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and it comes out through your fingers. I'm like, what I think you express is, is the fact that you
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don't just squeeze the Jell-O and it, there's an indention there. It pops out some other place. So
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you don't just become anti-war and then your overall anti-war, you become anti-war to focus the energy of
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the American empire towards something. And I would suggest that post-October 7th,
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the American empire is going to be backing Israel, perhaps backing Israel in a regional war that
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eventually becomes a world war in the Middle East directed against Iran. It is very important to get
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Russia on board. Russia is an economic player. I mean, its economy is the size of Italy, obviously
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has a natural resource, wealth, you know, tremendous. It is a nuclear power. You want to take one
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player off the field, a player that could hurt you, stand in your way, et cetera. That's how I read this.
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So all of these anti-war types who think it's great that we're dumping Zelensky, be careful what you
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wish for. The other thing I would say before my phone runs out of power is that I do, you know,
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this gets back to what I was talking about before. Like, are we really going to engage
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in geopolitical realignment on the basis of a dust-up between J.D. Vance, of all people,
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at a press conference? I mean, who cares? If you want to sell someone your house and
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insults you in some way, maybe you'll, you know, walk out of the room, but you'll probably call him
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back the next day. I mean, if you want to do something and someone is willing to partner
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with you, then why stand on some formality? Why don't you get over some slight that someone
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perpetrated against and just do it? Are we really going to realign geopolitics? I find it just hard
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to believe that this wasn't a setup. That being said, I see the Trump administration,
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Trump 2.0, as devolving into a series of catastrophes. It seems like a hundred years ago,
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but only yesterday we had this bizarre situation where Pam Bondi promised to reveal everything
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about Epstein only to reveal nothing that we didn't already know. Actually reveal less than
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nothing, to reveal redacted documents that are already out there and give them to a bunch of idiotic
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e-grifter influencer types. I mean, that blew up in their face really hard. And, you know,
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one could talk about why they did that, of course. And then we have this situation where you're
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apparently engaging in geopolitics on the basis of whether someone does or does not insult J.D.
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Vance. I mean, it's just insane taken from the standpoint of, you know, racism.
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Alpine or standard diplomacy. So we seem to just be devolving into these series of catastrophes.
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And we also seem to be devolving into the end of the American century, which a century that
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stretched 80 years from the Bretton Woods Accords in 1944, the end of the Second World War in 1945,
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of course, and the creation of all of these institutions. A little bit later on, NATO,
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the, you know, International Monetary Fund, all of this stuff. America is the world reserve currency.
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America is going to patrol the seas. America is the one true way. In competition with Soviet communism,
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maybe they're going to end up at the same place. Maybe they want the same thing ultimately. But
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actually, we found out America wins. It's the only thing going.
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That century undergirded, is that the right word, undergirded? Buttressed by American military might
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and the American dollar is the world reserve currency. Are we not seeing the end of it?
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I mean, if the whole world is basically radically disagreeing with you and saying that they love
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Ukraine, if the whole world is basically saying this guy to Donald Trump, if European partners are
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like, well, we've got to go our own way then. The new German minister said, we've got to gain
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independence from the United States. We've got to continue to support Ukraine. If the whole world
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is looking at the United States getting deeper and deeper in bed, aligning with Israel that has just
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committed god-awful acts in Gaza, in getting in bed with Vladimir Putin, who just invaded a country,
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kidnapped thousands of children, blown up whole towns, etc. If they see that, then the American
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century can't keep going. You know that idea of fiat currency, the dollar, it's not based on gold
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anymore. What is it based on? It's based on oils, based on bullets. Yeah, that's true. But it's
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credo. It's based on legitimacy. It's based on the fact that people believe in the United States.
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Soft power is not some joke. Think about all of the soft power that the Soviet Union actually possessed
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after 1917. It wasn't called the Soviet Union at the time, but you understand. The idea that they
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were the one true way, that we're liberating the people from the oppressive capitalists. These are
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all slogans, of course, but they're real. That kind of legitimacy is extremely important, as was the
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legitimacy that the United States empire gained from blue jeans, rockin' roll, the Beatles, U2, consumerism,
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some feminism, but not too much, family values. I'm going to own a two-bedroom home, have two cars,
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have four weeks of vacation, and a gold watch when I retire. All of that, that vision of America is
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soft power, and it's extremely important. And from some brutal, realistic way, you could say,
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oh, none of this matters. Let's just be transactional. Pay me, bro. I might tariff your ass
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if you don't do what I say. I mean, I get it. And on some level, that's how politics really is.
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But to just dismiss the concepts of legitimacy, that is political theology, as Carl Schmitt delved into.
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Legitimacy, credo, belief, credit. To just dismiss that as meaningless, and we'll just do
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whatever the fuck we want, does represent the end of the American century. It represents the
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undermining of the American empire. And I would fear that what comes after the American empire is
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going to be much worse. Now, maybe on some level, it always had to end, and nothing can last forever,
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et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I actually sort of agree with that. Maybe on some level, you can't
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have democracy and an empire. The democracy is going to demand too much. It's going to undermine the
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empire. At some point, the democracy, the people, Demos, doesn't believe in the empire. I get all that.
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Maybe it sort of has to end. But what comes after is no doubt going to be much worse. There are
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consequences to this. And I don't think the Trump fans, the online right, the dissident right, MAGA,
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I don't think they are contemplating any of this. I think they think in this very stupid way that
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the government is going to their home, pulling out their wallet, taking all the cash out,
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and just handing it to Zelensky, who buys a new car and throws a keg party. That seems to be what
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they think. That's how Tucker Carlson thinks. Not in those words, of course, but you get it.
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They don't understand that the value of their dollar is dependent upon the American empire,
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that they are going to lose a whole hell of a lot by the United States empire declining.
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They don't want to think about that. They think that they're just getting ripped off.
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And thank God, Elon Musk is deconstructing soft power so that we can be rich again.
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Look, on some ways, I get it. I think there have been declining expectations,
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declining living standards, declining life expectancy. I get it in many ways. But that is a
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fundamentally incorrect way of conceiving the American empire. And of course, that's how
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conservatives think. Anyway, just some thoughts. Hope you enjoyed these. I will talk to you guys soon.
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